Which one should YOU buy? Conspirator, Altus, or Original

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  • @craven1927
    @craven1927 Рік тому +1

    I just ordered an Altus with the wood grip. I just love the profile of that model. I've been having my eye on it for some time now.

  • @brandon_crow1291
    @brandon_crow1291 2 роки тому +6

    I know it may sound weird but I think the original is kinda a good answer to the bugout in the budget range. It being a thumb stud button lock gives it similar (perhaps better) function than the axis lock. The blade shape is similar as well as the weight. Obviously the steel isn't the same but I think the aluminum makes up for it due to the less than great plastic scales on the bugout.

  • @stevesweeney7892
    @stevesweeney7892 2 роки тому +3

    You had me with owning every model. That started with CZ P10s Now its BUTTON LOCKS! Stay sharp! 🇺🇸

    • @EEDC
      @EEDC  2 роки тому

      Lmfao ahhh its a sickness isn't it

  • @NocturneKnives
    @NocturneKnives 2 роки тому +3

    Conspirator for me! I always love a good fuller. Aesthetics wise, though, I think the Altus looks best. Great analysis!

  • @Corbs627
    @Corbs627 2 роки тому +3

    I got the altus Red and black. I would choose it again. Looks best of the three to me. I don’t think you could go wrong with any of these though.

  • @carmelotansengco4605
    @carmelotansengco4605 10 місяців тому

    I bought a Conspirator earlier this year. It's your basic black micarta with stonewashed blade. I like it so much I put in an order for the one in green micarta with black stonewash. My dealer sent me the damascus version. Initially, I thought about sending it back but I just decided to pay him the difference and kept it. Love the Conspirator.

  • @elijahclark6093
    @elijahclark6093 2 роки тому +1

    I made the same choice. Actually my wife got me the conspirator with the wood scales for my birthday this coming Saturday and I got myself an older crkt tighe tac two to add another fidget friendly knife to the collection. Glad to see I made the same choice as someone like yourself with considerably more experience

    • @EEDC
      @EEDC  2 роки тому

      1st of all more experience is A gracious thing for you to say but we're all just knife guys and you know I greatly appreciate you even taking time to watch the video 2nd of all how awesome is your wife to get you that knife and 3rd yes it is an incredible EDC it it competes with some of my stuff that's much more higher when it comes you're when it comes to cost

  • @jeffaschbacher3334
    @jeffaschbacher3334 2 роки тому +1

    Already have the Altus with wood. Next will be the Conspirator with wood. Great product !

  • @davewarner1492
    @davewarner1492 2 роки тому +4

    I bought the Conspirator over the Cogent. I get mine later in the week. It will be my first Civivi. I own two Kershaw Launches and looking forward to a button lock!

    • @EEDC
      @EEDC  2 роки тому

      What launches? And good choice imo the cogent feels like a more "stylish" less usable knife JUST my opinion though

    • @davewarner1492
      @davewarner1492 2 роки тому +1

      @@EEDC launch 8 and 11

    • @EEDC
      @EEDC  2 роки тому

      Oh man those are 2 of 4 that I haven't felt yet but that 11 looks like it's a worker!!!!

    • @davewarner1492
      @davewarner1492 2 роки тому

      @@EEDC the 8 is flashy and cool. The 11 is my work horse. Cuts everything with great ease and precision.

  • @thomastapman391
    @thomastapman391 2 роки тому +1

    Conspirator got the button lock elementum love it but now have ordered the conspirator thanks for the review

    • @EEDC
      @EEDC  2 роки тому

      Did you get it yet how do you like a man

  • @butchcassidy3373
    @butchcassidy3373 2 роки тому +11

    I have all three and the Cogent and to my surprise, the Cogent is my favorite.
    But the Original has such a quality feel that I absolutely love. But the Altus has better ergos for me. The Conspirator has a little too much blade mass. Love a drop point but they could have slimmed it down a little to give it better action.
    ALL of my button locks have had a little stick when new, so it doesn't bother me any. They've all broken in nicely

    • @TMthumper
      @TMthumper 2 роки тому

      I have the Cogent, the Altus' blade geometry looks superior and ergonomics look better ad well. I'm intrigued with the Original but I can't do metal scales (hyperhidrosis aka sweaty palms)..Conspirator looks good but the Altus looks better all around with them studs. Which do you prefer I get next?

    • @Nothingtoya
      @Nothingtoya 2 роки тому +1

      I'm with you on the Kizer Original. It's just so smooth compared to my Altus and Conspirator. The only thing that keeps me from using the Original more, is the limited rum.

    • @butchcassidy3373
      @butchcassidy3373 2 роки тому

      @@Nothingtoya right. I've got the gunmetal and it's pretty limited. Lol. I pretty much let mine sit in the drawer. I'll just use it as a gentleman's carry when I go out. And then it'll be riding in a slip. Lol

  • @GrumpyGrunt
    @GrumpyGrunt 2 роки тому +1

    I have and dig the Original. I don't have the Altus or Conspirator yet, but I'll get a Conspirator eventually. What I REALLY want is that Chevalier which drops this month. A sheepsfoot button lock in 14c28n? Yes, please! Thanks for the look and your thoughts, T. Stay well up there, brother!

  • @MEBoisv
    @MEBoisv Рік тому

    All three are fantastic. I've been eyeing the Conspirator for a while now; I want it for hiking and other outdoor activities. However as an urban edc knife, for all occasions, I recommend the Kizer Original or the Altus. The Kizer is small and unassuming for when you want to be less conspicuous. If I didn't own any knives and I was looking at these I would buy the Kizer and the Conspirator.

  • @STUFFWEDO
    @STUFFWEDO 2 роки тому +1

    Thank you. I like seeing them all together.

    • @EEDC
      @EEDC  2 роки тому +1

      Thanks for watching brotha!

  • @williammiller7346
    @williammiller7346 2 роки тому +2

    Conspirator. All day, every day for me. Drops so fast that the blade bounces back out of the handle and then settles in. (Right out of the box) Got the wood handle, slippery but still can middle finger flip it. Will get a custom handle for it at some point. Hard to imagine a “better” EDC. ADEDC.

  • @enriquescott2983
    @enriquescott2983 Рік тому

    I the Conspirator Damascus version and I upgraded the clip to a titanium and I enjoyed every day

  • @LegitSpeedDesigns
    @LegitSpeedDesigns 2 роки тому +4

    I like the Original the best.

  • @danielcox5849
    @danielcox5849 2 роки тому +2

    I have the Altus and the Conspirator. I don’t currently have the Original but I do have the Assassin which is another great button lock knife from Kizer.

    • @EEDC
      @EEDC  2 роки тому

      That's awesome how do you compare the assassin to the conspirator Altus what would you say give me a run down on what you think if you were to have to do a comparison video lol

    • @danielcox5849
      @danielcox5849 2 роки тому +1

      @@EEDC The Assassin has the snappiest action but all three knives have great action with no lock stick. The Conspirator is the best fidget knife and has the best blade. I prefer the micarta on the Conspirator over the Assassin. I have the wood scale version of the Altus. The Altus is the best looking knife. Ergos are great on all three. All three knives are exceptional values. It gets down to what size blade I feel like carrying on a given day.

    • @EEDC
      @EEDC  2 роки тому +1

      I got you well thanks for sharing man I'm stuff I'm gonna have to check out the effects and I do love the way it looks at least from the pictures and that's usually my 1st key in before I purchase at least for the channel thanks again for watching brother greatly appreciated

  • @atobg_
    @atobg_ Рік тому

    had 2 civivis and both had stick button's kinda scared to get another but would pick the conspirator

  • @haveagocommentator983
    @haveagocommentator983 2 роки тому +1

    Altus is the smart buy. But for fegit factor I put some thumb studs on my cogent and it is by far my favorite to play with .

    • @EEDC
      @EEDC  2 роки тому

      I think the ultimate has more general purpose edc purpose carry functions while the Conspirator believe has a better in use function but I mean some States it's even illegal to carry you know so that's my take on it but I think the conspirator is really one of civivis best thanks so much for watching dude

  • @davidmathews2124
    @davidmathews2124 2 роки тому +3

    I have a fair number of Benchmade, Spyderco, Kershaw, Ruike, a bunch of singles and some nice slip-joint blades in all sizes. Civivi is new to me and I have a few of the pocket cleaver things…Mastodon & Bullmastiff. 2 Minis and a Standard. One G10, one Micarta and one Damascus. I have 2 button lock Elementums. One 14C28 and one Damascus. Brilliant knife. Very desirable. I also just ordered this Conspirator but in Damascus. I view the Elementum BL as a medium, the Conspirator as well. With that as background I consider this Conspirator the wisest choice as an EDC of the three you have here. Nice presentation. Thanks for your efforts. Much appreciated.

    • @EEDC
      @EEDC  2 роки тому

      Thanks for the kind words brother did you get that conspired or any yet how do you like it

    • @davidmathews2124
      @davidmathews2124 2 роки тому

      @@EEDC Yes…2 Conspirator knives in hand plus Cogent & Chevalier. All are highly desirable. My favorite is the Conspirator mostly due to the feel in hand and effective cutting geometry. Second favorite is Chevalier. Great blade. Don’t care at all about all this fidgeting nonsense. A knife is a tool with which to cut…not a toy with which to fidget. Amen.

  • @caseylockwood5512
    @caseylockwood5512 2 роки тому +1

    They should move the button to the other side of the knife. In that position, its still easy to operate with your index finger, and with the knife open you never even come close to pushing the button unintentionally while the knife is deployed.

    • @EEDC
      @EEDC  2 роки тому

      I've never felt a button lock like that but I imagine it would feel pretty natural

  • @mitchellg849
    @mitchellg849 2 роки тому

    Have the same Altus and conspirator as you!! I also have the black g10 bead blasted Altus! They are great tools!!

  • @gregwilson5393
    @gregwilson5393 2 роки тому +1

    I had all three. Returned the Keizer. It had the worst button stick than any of my other button lock knives.

    • @EEDC
      @EEDC  2 роки тому

      The hic cup came with stick but has def gotten better

  • @turbotim007
    @turbotim007 Рік тому

    Not a thumb stud person anymore since the made flipper tabs. I prefer a clean looking blade. Love the looks and style of the conspirator. My edc is the original Civivi Elementum with the S35VN and they are coming out with a button lock original size Elementum soon. Can’t wait.

  • @jeremyspaulding7735
    @jeremyspaulding7735 2 роки тому

    I think I would go conspritor just based on size. I tend to prefer the larger knives. Great comparison brotha 👍

  • @eriklundquist3588
    @eriklundquist3588 2 роки тому +3

    My Altus has great ergos, OK action, and really annoying lock stick. My Original has really good ergos and amazing action - possible better than any of my other knives. Its action is seriously in another class. I don’t have a Conspirator, and am hesitant given my experience with a Civivi button lock.

    • @EEDC
      @EEDC  2 роки тому

      I do have some graphite grease and graphite dust that I use for lock stick and other assorted things but I've noticed that if I take a little bit of that graph I grease and put it right where the lock interfaces with the button that locks that goes away completely not sure if that helps and if you need some I might be able to send some out it's expensive stuff so I don't mind sharing and a little bit goes a long way with this type of thing

    • @Nothingtoya
      @Nothingtoya 2 роки тому

      It seems hit and miss with Civivi button locks. My Altus had a little bit of button stick, my Conspirators button stick is on a whole different lever. I'm pretty sure Hell was involved with building my Conspirator.

    • @GG-ml3vr
      @GG-ml3vr 2 роки тому +1

      @@Nothingtoya My conspirator and altus are silky smooth but my cogent button feels like i should smack it with a hammer to make it work.They are deffo hit and miss on stick😀

  • @Youtube-Censorship-Police
    @Youtube-Censorship-Police 2 роки тому +2

    the altus is one of the better looking civivi designs, most of the newer civivis and we's are just plain boring.
    i like the combo of the wooden handles and the black hw and nitro-v is a pretty decent steel (although not as stainless as 154cm).
    my favourite button-lock is the kizer cormorant, i just love that thing😅
    i agree on the aluminum, it looks like garbage after a few weeks🤣

  • @NateHeise
    @NateHeise 2 роки тому +1

    Missing the kizer Assassin on this list. IMO the best action of the 4

    • @jeffgordon6199
      @jeffgordon6199 2 роки тому

      I received the Conspirator today and the action is pretty good. However, you are absolutely correct - the Assassin does indeed have the best action of them all.

    • @Ike32
      @Ike32 2 роки тому

      Agreed. The assassin is the best of all worlds, compared to these knives

  • @ScottieG59
    @ScottieG59 2 роки тому +1

    I have the Conspirator and Original, but I carry the Conspirator more.

    • @EEDC
      @EEDC  2 роки тому +1

      1st of all thank you so much for checking out the video brother 2nd thank you for leaving a comment and 3r.. Yeah the conspirator just feels like more of a capable tool in your pocket and it's pretty d*** easy to carry too now the original yet wait easier to carry but not as capable

  • @roadracerqx893
    @roadracerqx893 Рік тому

    Begleiter XL ☝️ Button, flipper, thumb studs, 154CM, better size….and marbled carbon fiber if you want 👍. Of the vid options…Conspirator.

  • @williammiller7346
    @williammiller7346 2 роки тому

    Got the Conspirator, wood handle. Push the button and the blade drops into the handle and bounces out. Right out of the box.

  • @grimispotato245
    @grimispotato245 Рік тому

    I have the conspirator it works with me and I like it !
    I think its becoming a civivi thing now with me because I also edc a civivi off work ? I use to rotate my knives like I rotate my socks once a year ? Joke ha ha ! But with civivi they go where I go. And if I do rotate I rotate with another civivi. Even my table knife is a civivi ?

  • @DiamondEDC
    @DiamondEDC 2 роки тому +1

    Geesh... I own all three and it's hard to judge them. The hardest part is knowing that they are all good knives.

    • @EEDC
      @EEDC  2 роки тому +1

      Yeah it's crazy man like I get into all types of times you know Hiren's budget knives you name it but I will say these are really hard to keep your hands off of all 3 of them they're all really good thanks So much for watching brother

  • @donwendling7800
    @donwendling7800 2 роки тому +1

    I bought an Altus. What's better Cogent or Conspirator?

    • @EEDC
      @EEDC  2 роки тому +1

      Imo conspirator all day

  • @agoodun
    @agoodun 2 роки тому +2

    All 3 please 🥺

    • @EEDC
      @EEDC  2 роки тому +1

      Haha your not wrong all 3 are fun! Thanks for watching brotha!

  • @TheTedMeister
    @TheTedMeister 2 роки тому +1

    I would take the Natural except I'm a lefty.

    • @EEDC
      @EEDC  2 роки тому

      1st of all thank you so much for watching ma'am secondly as a lefty you don't find button locks easy to manipulate just curious

  • @blakephelps7619
    @blakephelps7619 2 роки тому

    I would get the Conspirator!

  • @Nothingtoya
    @Nothingtoya 2 роки тому +4

    I have all 3 and the Original is such a better knife compared to the other 2. The QC done at Kizer is amazing, the other 2 seem like there isn't any. If you like a horrible gritty, sticky button lock, go with Civivi. If you like a great feeling, smooth button lock and an overall fantastic knife, go with the Kizer.

    • @EEDC
      @EEDC  2 роки тому

      Is it just the sticky lock that frustrates ya? If it is I got something that will fix that super fast. I like all three but honestly I feel like the original is the lesser of the three but for different reasons.

    • @Nothingtoya
      @Nothingtoya 2 роки тому +1

      @Everyday EDC - EEDC The Altus has a sticky button, I've mostly taken care of that by sanding the coating off the button lock, the Conspirator on the other had has a fitment issue between the button lock and the blade. I did the same with its button lock and tried to sand down the spot it locks into on the blade, that didn't work, so I fully polished the 2 pieces, that worked for a second and it went back to the same problem. I do like the knives but they're not even close to being as nice as any of my Kizer knives. I'm definitely all ears for a fix to the problem.

    • @EEDC
      @EEDC  2 роки тому

      So a pencil ✏️ - just like lock stick graphite will help brotha. I have a grease as well similar to graphite powder (stupid nasty stuff lol goes every where but works great) the grease is super easy to apply and it doesn't last FOREVER but just reapply it to the tang of the blade (portion with the button interfaces) and Bing bang boom - I can send ya little samples of each - I just ask anyone I ship to to pay for the shipping, the stuff is expensive but the amount I send will last a lifetime if you only use it for your knives

    • @Nothingtoya
      @Nothingtoya 2 роки тому +2

      @Everyday EDC - EEDC oh nice, I'll give it a try. I'll go a head and find some. I'll probably find all kinds of uses for it. Thank you for offering to send me some, that's pretty awesome of you!

    • @EEDC
      @EEDC  2 роки тому

      It's expensive stuff used with electricians and such (like 120 to 160 a bottle) I just had a hook up earlier and spreading the love bro! Let me know (dow corning graphite grease is what I use you might be able to find something cheaper though)

  • @jakefromohiostate
    @jakefromohiostate 2 роки тому

    It seems like the Conspirator is the accumulation of the previous button lock models….like all the best parts

  • @andersriksson100
    @andersriksson100 2 роки тому +1

    Nice! Altus with a flipper or a Cogent with a thump stud would be ideal but I'd probably miss a flipper more and the Conspirator is too large.

    • @EEDC
      @EEDC  2 роки тому +1

      I'm one of those weird guys that I wouldn't say I hate flippers but I much preferred thumbstuds because I like the profile that it gives but I'd definitely get both sides of the story there thanks so much for watching brother

  • @Ike32
    @Ike32 2 роки тому

    Option D: Kizer Assassin button lock

  • @michaelfuxeklint4909
    @michaelfuxeklint4909 2 роки тому +2

    The Chevalier 😉😉👍👍

    • @EEDC
      @EEDC  2 роки тому +1

      I do love me a good sheepsfoot!!!!

  • @sobxscooter8157
    @sobxscooter8157 2 роки тому +1

    I go Kizer from experience but Altus is right there. Keep your flipper 🤣

    • @tonyki9556
      @tonyki9556 2 роки тому +1

      Cool great video man.. u just helped me narrow down my choices

    • @EEDC
      @EEDC  2 роки тому

      Ahhh dang thanks man .... which one you going to go with!

    • @EEDC
      @EEDC  2 роки тому +1

      Oh man lol it's funny how our past experiences mold our bias isn't it??? No one is innocent there I don't care what they say

  • @jeffgordon6199
    @jeffgordon6199 2 роки тому

    Well, I guess I am a psycho too, lol. I just ordered the Conspirator. I'm adding that to my button lock collection, which includes the Kizer(s) Cormorant v2, Original Gunmetal, and Assasin (green micarta). And, I also have the Altus in black g10 w/ bead blasted blade. I don't have a Cogent so please no one tell me that it's a must have! This psycho's wife is getting tired of my knife addiction! If she knew what I spent I'd be sleeping in the car! Great review- they are all great knives in their own way! Any would be a good choice IMO.

  • @bigdavidcannon4
    @bigdavidcannon4 2 роки тому

    I have big hands, I want the Conspirator.

  • @joecdm100
    @joecdm100 2 роки тому +1

    Id choose the Cogent.

  • @jmas2190
    @jmas2190 2 роки тому +1

    Definitely the conspirator is great three way operator but there is one not here takes them the kizer assassin just came green micarta FIRE!! all day .

    • @EEDC
      @EEDC  2 роки тому

      Yeah the Kaiser assassin is on my list to get and check out I definitely think the Kiizr assassin is one that I might compare to the conspirator I do like the construction of the original but I don't prefer the aluminum body I prefer G 10 or Micarta I'm at that price point although I don't have a problem with aluminum that's only preference for me but thank you so much for watching man and it means a lot

  • @wigglywrigglydoo
    @wigglywrigglydoo 2 роки тому

    I'll wait for Altus in satin with wood scales

  • @mini14head
    @mini14head 2 роки тому

    Have the kizer original ordered.
    Altus in wood will be next.
    Conspirator wears a flipper,
    No thanks.
    Nice video.

  • @eilambyle
    @eilambyle Рік тому

    i'd get the original if the clip was lefty friendly, but i can't even consider it.

  • @metricaldimensions
    @metricaldimensions Рік тому +1

    Conspirator all day!!

    • @EEDC
      @EEDC  Рік тому +1

      I would agree if it wasn't for the button lock ele ;)

  • @jacobvermette491
    @jacobvermette491 2 роки тому +2

    Altus!!!!

  • @superrad1659
    @superrad1659 2 роки тому

    Never had a Civivi or Kizer.. I think I like the Conspirator but tbh kinda wish it was just a liiitle bit smaller, maybe a 3" blade. Basically I want a fuller on the Altus 😂

    • @stevesweeney7892
      @stevesweeney7892 2 роки тому

      COGENT 3.48 Blade! Perfect!

    • @superrad1659
      @superrad1659 2 роки тому +1

      @@stevesweeney7892 yeah, they all seem like good choices. I personally enjoy the overall aesthetics of the Altus + Conspirator just a little more.

    • @superrad1659
      @superrad1659 2 роки тому

      @@stevesweeney7892 its funny, bc IMO if they mashed ALL 3 together it would be such a badass knife!! Say 3.25" blade, Flipper, fuller AND thumbstud/hole. Figure out how to work a front flipper in the mix and youd have an unbeatable, decimating fidget machine!

  • @Jethrospect
    @Jethrospect 11 місяців тому

    Conspirator all day!

  • @lordartos8222
    @lordartos8222 Рік тому +1

    Ive been calling it the Atlus this whole time😅

    • @EEDC
      @EEDC  Рік тому

      Lmfao that's not right?

  • @blackholerainbow3029
    @blackholerainbow3029 2 роки тому

    I'll get the evil one.

  • @Mr-kn6uk
    @Mr-kn6uk 2 роки тому +1

    KIZER every day of the week!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • @EEDC
      @EEDC  2 роки тому

      Hold up... what about Saturdays

    • @Mr-kn6uk
      @Mr-kn6uk 2 роки тому

      @@EEDC Good Sir, we both know what happens on Saturdays and some of us even drag it out to Sundays but I have not done that for some years now.
      All the best from Western Australia!!

  • @iamnoone6607
    @iamnoone6607 2 роки тому +1

    Burgandy Altus

    • @EEDC
      @EEDC  2 роки тому

      Nice dude!!

  • @paulg.5997
    @paulg.5997 Рік тому

    Sencut Sasche

  • @Dynamic6000
    @Dynamic6000 Рік тому +1

    All these lose to CJRB’s Pyrite.

    • @EEDC
      @EEDC  Рік тому

      Possible. I haven't experienced that yey unfortunately

  • @tonyhohmann8417
    @tonyhohmann8417 2 роки тому +1

    COGENT

    • @EEDC
      @EEDC  2 роки тому

      False

  • @Quagmire925
    @Quagmire925 2 роки тому +1

    Janky button lock rock trash! 😋

    • @EEDC
      @EEDC  2 роки тому +1

      Bahaha I don't think so I've taken em all apart their built Decently;)

  • @christianmillhollon4481
    @christianmillhollon4481 2 роки тому +2

    The sound lol is this a fact or are you a liberal

    • @EEDC
      @EEDC  2 роки тому +1

      The sound Elaborate internet troll you lost me+

    • @christianmillhollon4481
      @christianmillhollon4481 2 роки тому

      @@EEDC do you not know what the fvck you've said hahahahah

    • @christianmillhollon4481
      @christianmillhollon4481 2 роки тому +1

      @@EEDC in the video hahahah

    • @christianmillhollon4481
      @christianmillhollon4481 2 роки тому +1

      @@EEDC troll is a word used by weak minded individuals who believe in theories lol also known as a liberal and many other things lol

    • @EEDC
      @EEDC  2 роки тому

      As defined by........... hahahah seriously the video sound was off? Feedback is always welcome if ya can give specifics the is lol is too general too do anything with