Oops I Ruined It! Civivi Vision FG Full Test and Review
Вставка
- Опубліковано 31 тра 2024
- UNCLE RANDY, BRICKY, BASIL, CHANNEL MERCH - helps me buy more wacky stuff for videos.
cedric-ada-store.creator-spri...
docs.google.com/spreadsheets/... - Full steel testing list for my cut test videos, free to all.
/ cedricada - support me on patreon if you like, helps me do the expensive stuff! - Розваги
Pete has the hardest wood…
And Mrs Pete approves
Some guys just like to brag.
Tree makes my wood hard…
its because hes from the land of plenty i guess.
In 2024, your channel is the only knife-content worth watching.
You actually use your tools, and don’t just tabletop a bunch of freebies.
Thanks for the hard work!
Amen
Pete definitely in league of his own as far as knife channels !
Surprising how similar most knife channels are, always reviewing unused knives. As a first impression video, that's fine. But you have to use a knife for a review. That's why I like this channel.
@@xxswamplordxx2079 💯
Agreed, everyone else seems to be focused on knives they can get for free and they do a small video just LOOKING at the knife. And that's it.
I also like Stassas' videos but they are not as entertaining
Hint: I usually use a plastic baggie to catch flying springs, disassemble the object inside a clear plastic baggie.
Pro tip
Disassembly in a black trash bag is more edgy.
or just know where the spring is. the vision fg is like the easiest knife to keep the spring from flying out with. just lift the lock bar a little before you remove the scale all the way... or literally just put your finger on the spring lol
I disassemble mine in the gravel driveway. Makes it more fun trying to find the parts. Lol. Definitely using the bag trick from now on
SNEX IS A LEGEND FOR NOT GATEKEEPING HIS DESIGN. HE DESERVES CREDIT FOR THAT! Gg 😎
Just saying, I would absolutely watch a 30 minute video of just you petting your dogs. Their excitement and happiness is so satisfying to see.
We getting spoiled by all the Pete videos! Keep em coming! Super happy you are back posting frequently again! The community definitely missed you!
Came for the review. Stayed for the reveal of the Civivi Vision FG Kris version…
Seeing your vision FG made me realize, my pivot is too tight.
I have to adjust and get the drop shut like yours, ty for a excellent upload
Knife companies need to be praised for shipping a blade with an edge this thin, most pocket knives are shipped with an edge suitable for an axe and it takes A LOT of work to get that kind of cutting performance through hand sharpening.
Amen!!
Now that's a very good non-tabletop review 👍
Pete, your knife reviews and test, combined with the entertainment that comes along with it, is second to none. Much appreciated.
Some past results...
Massdrop perpetua (millet knives) Nitro-v 250 cuts
Realsteel 14c28n - 200 cuts
Nitro-v custom - 61rc - 350 cuts
Civivi Vision fg 325 cuts
Spyderco Kapara s30v - 260cuts
Benchmade 940 s30v - 220
Buck small vantage pro s30v - 290
Thanks for that
For working on things that have springs yearning to be free, I've found a good trick is to work on them in a clear plastic bag (like kitchen trash bin sized). Contains any fugitive bits and you can still see what you're doing.
That’s a good idea. I always use a towel.
12:32 don’t worry brother, we’ve all been there 😩 I lost the spring on an AD20.5 in my tiny bedroom and spent 30 minutes looking for it, gave up thinking I’d have to buy a replacement, only to step on it a day later 😅
That is almost the exact same # as the One in Nitro V at 17° i tested on feet of cardboard pretty interesting and great results
Great video, Pete! I wish you had the bandwidth to do reviews on everything because these are by far way better and more informative than any of the desktop reviews.
Just found this channel and I must say this is one of the most intelligent “knife video” I have ever seen. Blows MC and Neeves out of the water. You have a new follower. Thanks
Super impressed with that lock performance!
You really are a great knife reviewer. Your videos are super informative, well produced and fun. It's actually useful in decision making as opposed to just trying to induce us to drool over something new. I wish every Video/TV show had pet footage interjections. I'm very curious about the 14c28n on the Vosteed. I assume we'll be graced by a review of that soon, but I would've expected that to have better rust resistance than it did.
Best knife and knife adjacent channel on UA-cam! I’ve never understood how some wánkers sitting at a table reviewing pristine blades without even showing their face end up with hundreds of thousands of subscribers.
To be fair, if I watch a knife review/ overview I don’t usually care about the reviewers face! And you can make a blade look like new if you just clean it. I don’t know where the problem is when ppl don’t have a lot of hardcore use for their knives, a lot of people only collect knives.
@@dertodesking8379 which is pointless. Like the folks who collect shoes to never wear them. They are not knife enthusiasts, they are investors and nothing more. Buy paintings if you like staring at your collectors piece. Absolutely no different lol
@@dertodesking8379 Perhaps the non users/collectors are the bigger market amongst UA-cam viewers. Nothing wrong with collecting and appreciating craftsmanship of course. I appreciate things where functionality, form and engineering meet but not all do and that’s okay.
@@SixArmedPriest I love it when people think only their way to do things in the correct way! Do whatever makes you happy, who are you to tell people what to do?
@@dertodesking8379 They can, but I also can criticize it as ignorant. Free world right.
Doesn't matter anyway, when they pass away, crap gets auctioned off for pennies on the dollar anyway. So all for nothing lol
The vision is one of those knifes where the more everyone else likes it the more I don’t want one. I’m just being obstinate 😂 then again I felt the same way about the Demkos and now I have 5
the only one id buy is the knifecenter exclusive with the s35vn steel
@@acid6urns I have that one and it's nice, but there are some things to be aware of with the s35vn model that are different. So, first off, the blade stock is slightly thinner (a trait which the damascus versions also share), which makes it an even more slicy knife, but that will reduce the durability even more. Secondly, the carbon fiber scales are very smooth and offer basically no traction; it's not an issue with dry hands, but wet hands or gloves make it an issue.
If neither of those are strict turn-offs, then you'll probably love it; I know I do. It's definitely not a hard-use work knife, but as a general purpose EDC, it's one of my favorites.
Love my Vision FG. Thanks for doing a real review, Pete!
You're the oddest, serious reviewer on YT... And I'm here for it
I'm modding mine. One mm neon green liners. All six holes plugged with polished rounds of abalone shell. Swapping in the Damascus blade off the white G10 version. Halfway there so far. I'll keep batonning and prying to zero.👍
Hell yeah, the cat singing TOOL at the end 🤘🏼
I’ve had the pleasure of seeing them 3 times now and The Grudge was one of my favorite live performances.
Perfect opportunity to customise the blade shape! Could make an interesting wharncliffe still! Could whack a cheeky recurve in there too
I still laugh when I think of your earlier Demko disassembly video in the old shed with the flying spring. Such a relatable moment 😂. Awesome review.
Yeah a lot of people don't understand just how much or a difference a well formed edge apex will perform over a poorly formed edge. Edge quality can damn near have the same difference on edge retention as the steel it's self will. A perfectly formed edge will vastly increase edge retention as well as how well the knife will strop back. Well done edges are incredibly important to performance.
yeah, most of the time even just dropping from 20 degrees per side to 15 per side can almost DOUBLE the effective edge retention of a knife. that’s why i think steels like cruwear and 4v and m4 are so awesome, they already have great base edge retention but are also tough enough that you can take that to a whole entire new level by dropping the edge angle and running them super thin, since they’re all high toughness AND high hardness leading to amazing edge stability and durability.
@@acid6urnssure, but if your using a knife to split wood, a 20 or even 25 degree edge is preferred over a 15 degree, no matter what steel it is.
@@airadaimagery692 Most do not split wood with there edc though. This was also mentioned in the video. You should use a dedicated knife for that if you want a knife to last.
@@SixArmedPriest certainly,. But even if it’s a dedicated knife, one with more a blunt edge, ie 25 degree, is better for more rigorous task.
@@airadaimagery692 Yes I do agree. However most prefer a thinner edge for edc.
Best knife content on UA-cam.
Those 'photo light tents' for photographing items to sell on the secondary market would be really useful for those who feel strangely compelled to disassemble their pocket knives.
I have the Vision FG in the KnifeCenter exclusive in S35V. It's a really good design for light EDC, and one of few (like the Kapara, SpydieChef, Clairvoyant) that's also designed towards culinary tasks.
I’d give double thumbs up if I could for the ff7 music, good memories
Great review Pete!
Always love your videos brother!
Sweet soundtrack (it took me back in time!) and kickass outro! Oh, and good review too. Cheers
Pete, if you’re reading this … I saw something today that might interest you. Blade HQ has a Spyderco Blade Show video they released today where Eric Glesser says their SERRATED H2 steel has the highest edge retention of ALL their steels. Including Rex 121. Something about the grinding process changes the make-up of the steel at the serrations.
Maybe a new test??
this Cedric&Ada / Advanced Knife Bro crossover is dope AF
Excellent….I bought one a few months ago. It’s great!!…..love the lock….very sharp out of box…..right on young man!!!
I just got a Jake Hoback Summit “Psalm 23” knife. It’s a 4.5” reverse tanto beast of m390 in a titanium frame with bearings and a liner lock. I know it’s strong, but I wish it had a lock anywhere else to make flicking more fun… and dangerous. It’s so sharp. Cool honing set.
I continue to watch these videos because I like knives and final fantasy too.
Great job, proud of you!
There’s a reason ASTM has established a standard for salt mist testing. Mainly, allowing the mist droplets to dry, reduces the periods of galvanic corrosion to minutes rather than hours. Galvanic corrosion between dissimilar metals poses much higher risk to the integrity of metals than the presence of salt. Other than that, great video, you are getting more and more scientific. That’s the purpose here, to educate, ain’t it, mate?
Great review. Thanks!
Oh Pete, That Vision FG deserves some good knife surgery and rehab so it can find it sway back to your EDC rotation. I have that same model and it is indeed a fantastic do-everything tool.
A blade regrind might be all the reconstructive surgery it needs.
I'm a hobby knifemaker in Melbourne - I'll try to send you a DM. (I'm not good with these things...)
It's so confusing, I recognize 0 of the bird noises in this video and it really confuses me x)
Awesome content, Always look forward to these videos. Cheers!
We need more of this! Never understood the table top "reviews"
Amazing video pete.
Pete, you stay up why too late, but I appreciate the sacrifice.
I have this in Damasteel and I think it's one of the best all-round edc designs out there. That blade angle and offset suits it to most everyday tasks (esp including kitchen prep) and the lock is awesome. In Damasteel and ivory-white scales it's a really pretty piece as well.
Not Damasteel. Just Civivis proprietary damascus which is 9cr18mov based. Damasteel is a specific brand of damascus that is way more expensive than what you find on a sub $100 knife. Still a nice knife though.
@@tehwulf4291 ah, didn't realise they did their own.
Hello Pete,
nice and honest review, thank you very much for it.
Did you measure the edge shoulder thickness, right behind the edge bevel?
If so, how thick (or thin) is it?
Thanks for your help.
Great video. Love seeing the pups. Loved your sheep socks. I think Civivi should send you a new knife or two.
Very Nice Video! Really enjoy your content...I'm from South Africa!
*sidesteps both the unusually hard wood and all the jokes that come with it*
I love my Vision FG for all the reasons you named, Pete. It's excellent for general daily tasks, but it really does shine in the kitchen - moreso than just about any other pocket knife. And the superlock is supremely fidgety. It's honestly hard to keep it out of my pocket.
I know that there's a WE Vision with more premium steel, but I hope they do a revision (sorry) that is more like the FG, because I want *this* knife with even better steel.
Great vid would love to see your thoughts on the s35vn version
This knife with a Spyderco Seki City K390 heat treat would be money! 🔥
Good rundown, even with the oopsie at the end. I've pushed knives a mite too far from time to time, and I wasn't even testing or anything.
You can hammer out the wave on you vise. Use a small hammer and gently tap on kt until you set it straight. You can also do a regrind afterwards to make it look new.
0:36
Putting the entire knife community on blast
Great review! Civivi will sell you a replacement blade for pretty cheap. They charged me $18 for a Nitro V Civivi Clavi (a much smaller blade)
Hey Pete, hope to get more sharpening videos soon! Can we get one on convex grinds please? Specifically would love one on how to turn a scandinavian grind knife with a micro bevel into a scandi-vex/convex. This is something I have to do pretty much every time I buy a new fixed blade and I'm not sure if I'm ever getting it right tbh
I absolutely agree with the lock actuator feeling "in the way". I couldn't really get used to it or adjust my grip well enough, so I don't pull it out often.
I'm not a fan of the clip. It's more traditional than the spine-mounted original Vision-R, but I managed to bend mine up something vicious the first time it was in my pocket in a car. From that ride, the clip also developed some twisting play as it's not captured on both sides... but my scales are micarta that's softer than G10, so that might be the reason behind the play.
You can always "sharpen out" the blade warp ya put in it. It'll be a bit thicker behind the edge, but better than considering it junk. Much more a case for the worksharp belt systems to grind through the damage before you put an edge back on it as I think it'd take hilariously long to do by hand on stones.
Thanks!
Always good to mix in some dog content with your review. I also like the Vision FG.
Hey Pete, could you do a cut test with M390MK? Would love to see it!
So yeah. My thinking is I like the shape of the knife but it doesn't make sense to put a hugely strong lock (sacrificing ergonomics) on a delicate blade.
Civivi should send you one. I added one to my cart after this review
Really appreciate you destroying your knives to test rusting and taking it apart... 2 things I DO NOT want to ever do. LOL 17 degree thin blade battoning... it did pretty well! I'll send you a black G10 version if you want.
another excellent vid
I'm sitting here waiting for my laundry, flipping my VisionFG when this came up. it'll be good to know what not to do with it. ETA: While it is easier to take apart than any crossbar lock I have tried, I was warned to drape a kitchen towel over it for spring retention.
Just disassemble it inside a large clear plastic bag. And use a rubber or cardboard surface to rest it on.
Nice knife, even better review!
✌️
Hey Pete would you say it is worth buying for a food prep knife out camping or could you recommend another knife
Dig those ff7 tunes man
I am disappoint. I'd planned on picking one of those up. Oh, OK. I won't be using one for batoning. That doesn't put me off at all.
My complaint with these "piston" style knife locks is that soft, squishy opening detent.
As a result of this video, I went from not liking the Vision FG to thinking I might actually get one. Thanks.
8:43 is that music from final fantasy?
That Demko is the AD20, I believe.
I often forget how hard my wood is. With similar results.
I did not have as much trouble getting used to the lock in my grip as much as I had to get used to using a lock that was not in the frame/liner/axis lock position 😂
OMG YOU SHOULD HAVE TESTED THEIR DAMASCUS!!! SUCH A MISSED OPPORTUNITY MAN. WE HAVE SO MANY QUESTIONS ❓
Other than Brian Winters, Snex would have won Designer of the year.
My friend used my drop bear to baton wood when we were camping, I didn't want to feel like a dick and say no.. might have damaged the bearings just a little bit perhaps but still rocking and rolling
we got Rex121 and Micro-melt PD#1 coming to our pockets soon!!
And the Stretch 2 XL in K390!
I love this video but wtf is the classical trap music in the background lol?
came for the knives, stayed for 17:39
“It’s dead Jim.” ❤
Well Pete I just had a flipper folder , liner lock from china seized at customs Sydney , I’m in qld, a bit disappointed, I was curious as I see you have many knives of this description “automatic “ as they put it . What’s the deal !! Are we allowed to have them or not I was looking on google and it’s not really clear , Ive recently got about ten folders through and this was the first seizure , I’ve even had them come with letters saying customs inspected and opened it and they had the same exact operation as the one they just seized !! Doesn’t make much sense to me ! Anyway a vid covering this would be good for us aussies, you may already have one I’m not sure .. take care mate
Is there any civivi with a thick blade? They save on steel 😅
in my experience nitro-v did not well in fighting rust, literally all my 5 civivis have had corrosion issues. that said, they all have that usual civivi bead blast + stone wash finish and not satin.
Like a member of DBK, you over did it and laughed it off. It does look like a nice knife though.
Some lucky hobo would still love to carry that kit. Baton bend and all.
you could grind down the knife to get ride of that torqued metal.
This seems like a really good knife. I’m not really a fan of Civivi knives. Something about many of their designs don’t gel with me and I don’t like hollow grinds that they put on most of their knives. This one is different. The blade design is perfect for food prep which is a lot of what I use my pocket knives for. The only thing I really don’t like are the so called speed holes in the scales. Unnecessary and dumb looking. For the blade try using a hammer on an anvil. I repair and sharpen knives for people. And have seen many horrible edges where someone has tried to use the knife as a screwdriver and such. Careful hammering has worked for me with good results. Thanks 🎸🔪
Thanks for destroying the vision fg lol. Your test and neeves knives testing on it are great. I probably won't baton it through Pete's hard wood, or any wood though.
Wish you have the chance to review the mixer doberman and kizer momo. The former I've seen it compared to the kapara ergo wise, and the latter is basically a folding kitchen knife. Would love to hear your thoughts on those if they ever come across your way.
For a factory knife its definitely got a sweet blade geometry. I guess we can add that one to the list of 'nice things that cannot be had' for people chopping into old, very dry gum trees! 😧
I've take a hard wood plank, ball peen hammer and tap the edge a bit and try straighten it out. It will never be perfect, but will be functional again.
Hammer the blade flat?
Awww Pete, you just got it. Don't be a place young infant knives go to die. lol
I don't like the design right off the bat, just doesn't appeal to me but I watched the whole video anyways. Came for the knife, stayed for Pete. You could probably use a ballpein hammer and your tormek to fix that edge up a little if you wanted to. Not sure what that kind of stress would do to it's edge holding ability though.
i like the idea of the lock but i realy dislike the blade shape for some reason. i prefer the classic shapes more. This looks like a pocket kitchen-knife for me as well
THE FINAL FANTASY 7 MUSIC GOT ME TO RE-SUB .. IM IN