PS Vita: How NOT to Save a Console
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- Опубліковано 21 лис 2024
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Most people you talk to about the PlayStation Vita will sing its praises. It’s often referred to as a system that was way ahead of its time, with its console-quality graphics and wide array of features. With so much love for it, you would probably assume the Vita was a big success. But of course, that was not the case, with the PS Vita being PlayStation’s biggest failure ever. So what happened? How can a system that is almost universally beloved by everyone who played it, sell so poorly? In today’s video we will look back at the story of the PS Vita to find out how NOT to save a console.
PSvita. $200. The biggest memory card. $180. You can see why it failed.
It's also criminal that the PS Vita doesn't had a big enough internal storage space instead only giving PS Vita customer 1gb to work with. Heck with all the apps, os, and update that constantly comes for the system that 1gb got filled up really fast forcing customer to rely on the expensive memory cards while Nintendo owners who own a 3DS doesn't had to worry about space or memory as some games save directly to the cartridge or the 3DS internal 512mb ram while the 3DS also support SD Card and microSD card up to 512gb which are more affordable. A nice breath of fresh air compare to the PS Vita memory card situation.
@@VOAN vita 1000 had 0gb avaliable to the user.
@@VOAN stay butthurt that Playstation portal is selling well Nintendo switch fanboy 🤣
@@EnaTenkiyoGamer The delusion lol If this drought with the PS5 keeps going, the Portal won't make it past 40M sold (if it even makes it past 1M at all, right now it hasn't even sold 600K)
@@alejandrogonzalezakamintyt2242 cope harder Nintendo switch fanboy furry lol
God it still pisses me off how sony treated the vita... feels like they didnt even try with how fast it "died". Also vita is a very ironic name now thanks to this.
GOD I MISS MODNATION RACERS
Angers me to till this day. How do you just fumble some technology like that. So impressive for it's time
Imo i think it all came down the the price, the price of the vita and the storage was too expensive for 2011, Imo simple as that
@@rinnnnnnnnnnrinRinOnishi while ps portal is doing much better. Explain that?
I miss modnations aswell....
Can’t wait for him to make the same video on the ps5 pro
The unique memory cards wore too expensive from what i heard, sure make them proprietary but on the same price range of a sandisc.
The memory cards were expensive, but it really wasn't what killed the Vita. It was the lack of AAA titles that killed the Vita.
@@SweBeach2023 eh, i'd say it was definitely one of the nails in the coffin. AAA titles wouldnt have saved how pricy and prone to dying the cards were, add up the game price and some titles being unavailable physically + marketing being trash...
yeah, there's a LOT wrong there
The memory card cost killed it. When it first came out, I was like why would I pay $80 dollars for a memory card.
@@SweBeach2023 I never bought it and I think it was a bad move
@@SorarikoMotonei remember I was excited to play call of duty on my ps vita. The game does not even have campaign mode, it's just mini missions. I stopped playing the game after 2 days...
The marketing was also very poor. I bought a PS Vita in very early 2014. None of my co-workers at the movie theater knew what it was when I played it in the break room, but they knew what a 3DS was. To this day, your average joe still doesn't know what a PS Vita is.
@BigOnAnime94 but they know what a ps portal is and sold well. Keep crying Nintendo switch fanboy 😆
@@EnaTenkiyoGamer They've maybe heard of it because of the PS5, but the PS Portal is unlikely to sell as many units as the PS Vita did given the price point for a single purpose when other devices can do remote play and other things, providing more value.
Also Nintendo Switch fanboy? I own multiple consoles from multiple companies and own 4 PS Vitas and 2 PS Vita TVs. What does me commenting about Sony not doing a good job marketing the PS Vita have to do with me supposedly being a Switch fanboy? I'm one of the farthest things from a fanboy there is, I've criticized all of the companies before.
@BigOnAnime94 It's too bad playstation portal is selling well and sony said so so keep crying about it ps vita fanboy and have fun when sony makes a ps6 hybrid portable along with ps6. You can't stop sony from doing so hahahaha
@BigOnAnime94 phones are for talking btw, not playing games. Also switch is underpowered lmao and steam deck is a cope pc handheld trying to chase Nintendo and Sony's money hahaha
@@EnaTenkiyoGamer Phones haven't been about only talking for almost 20 years now, where have you been? The first iPhone is now 17 years old. The fanboy and child here is you, we're done here.
Edit: Looking at your community tab, wow...
You say in the end "I am sure if the vita was released today, Sony would have done a few things differently. Having the PS portal in the back of my mind, makes me think Sony still doesn't get the appeal of portable gaming
I think the Portal was Sony’s way of testing the portable market to see how players would respond.
The Portal is currently performing very well, so we’ll have to wait and see what they do with that info going forward
@@marvelmania7283 Sony's marketing was completely misguided. Focusing on making a handheld that does everything a smartphone does - including not playing PSP - pushed away even their die hard fans.
@@ZackLillipad is it performing very well? I literally know no one who has one. I haven't even seen a unit in person.
@@ZackLillipad I doubt it. Sony already has difficulty supporting PlayStation 5, entering the portable console market means competing against Nintendo, unlike 20 years ago Nintendo no longer makes weak portables and considering that Sony relies heavily on third party support, it will be a worse version of the Nintendo portable consoles.
@marvelmania7283 Admittedly I also don’t know anyone who has it but it’s consistently at the top of the sales charts for gaming accessories. And Sony said fairly recently that demand for the Portal far exceeded their expectations.
I have a 3G Vita. The 3G didn't work for online gaming. You could really only access the Playstation store, sync trophies, message friends, and use the Internet browser.
Ya. 3G was still too slow for any real head to head mobile gaming.
@TheMysteryDriver says the person crying about the playstation portal selling as sony said so. I'll wait for you to provide a link over the internet that said sony is lying about the ps portal not selling well. You'll spin this no matter what kid haha
@@EnaTenkiyoGamer it's not selling well based on their own numbers. Don't know what you want.
@@TheMysteryDriver source or it didn't happen Nintendo switch fanboy 🤣
@@EnaTenkiyoGamer shut up......your whole rant makes no snese, get lost kid! PSVita was a flop full stop and even PSP had issues it's entire run and Stony learned nothing....
and I am a playstation guy or was.....I own[ed] all of em up to PS4, I also own the first 3 XBOX's and owned NES SNES and Genesis WHEN THEY WERE NEW! i've seen it all man and Via was a worse failure than dreamcast, at least SDC had games people played....and lasted a little into gen 6 before dying
nobody's gonna link you anything, look up the data yourself ya lazy punk!
I bet the memory cards were priced so ridiculously high to specifically hedge their bets and cover any losses from inevitable piracy -they acted as both a hardware level AND financial mitigation. Even if you decide to pirate games, you still need a medium to store the backups on. Note: I absolutely condone piracy ;)
Possibly, but it did more harm than good for them. If they were priced better but still proprietary their mileage with the VITA would've been a bit longer.
And hackers simply made the SD2 VITA, one of which currently sits in my Vita lol
@@2Step2Hell I have a very similar card for my og hacked Vader psp 2000. It's a magic memory stick that takes 2 micro sd cards and combines them into a single pool. Absolutely love when the community cuts through proprietary BS like this so easily.
The PS3, PS4 and PS5 all use standard storage drives so for some reason Sony selected a different strategy for handhelds.
Unfortunately for Sony, modders figured out how to make MicroSD card works with Vita. Big L to everyone involved making that proprietary card nobody cares about.
Concord luckily is now their biggest software/ hardware failure. japan studios games probably sold better than this
Yeah, what an epic fail. 8 years of development and millions down the sh!tter.
Concord also released at the wrong time, it release at a time when everyone are getting tired of hero shooters. All we want now is Marvel vs. Capcom Fighting Collection and Mario Kart 8 Deluxe.
@VOAN stay butthurt about the playstation portal and sony portables in general kid. You too poor to afford the playstation portal 🤣
@@VOAN cope harder Nintendo switch fanboy
@EnaTenkiyoGamer why the hostility
Sony couldn't do a portable system today. They couldn't support PS Vita with games back then. Today, they can't even support PS5 with games. How would they support a handheld too? I'd say they'd have to pull a Switch, but considering the lack of game output right now for PS5, I think they'd still fail.
@@mjc0961 stay butthurt Nintendo switch fanboy. You simping too hard over the ps vita and ps portal selling well hahaha
The best thing they can do is make a portable ps4 make it use the same features as steam deck (same size ,account bought digitally games can be shared) with OLED screen and at least 1TB storage . price below 500 bucks
@@TaniaDlc-z2x"price below 500 bucks"
Well you killed it. Gabe said getting to 400 in 2019 was "painful". No way in 2024+ Sony could do the same thing.
Sadly it costs more money to make a semi-powerful handheld, and that's part of why it can't come back. Steam deck is marketed as a cheap PC, not an expensive handheld.
There was an article back in 2011 where they asked Kazurai about how Sony will be able to combat the loss they will be having with every Vita sold. I believe he answered that they had a plan for that. And we all know what it was now: those overpriced memory cards.
When that handheld came out, I was "living the "VITA" loca"
What😂
IYKYK 😂
Love my vita. Even with my ROG Ally , I always go back to my modded vita. Games, emulation, downloaded movies, music, pictures...slides perfectly in your pocket. This little guy just keeps giving and giving and giving long after it had been left behind.
PS Vita: A Wasted Potential By Sony
While ps portal is selling like hotcakes. Explain that?
@@EnaTenkiyoGamerI completely forgot about the portal. 😂
@@armando_az1 😂
@@EnaTenkiyoGamer, lol, sony only sell few unit 😆💩😉...of course few unit will sold out easily
@@QuantumChrist hahaha you so butthurt about sony portables kid. Too poor to afford it hahaha
I got a PSTV and bought my older brother a Vita 1000 within the past six months. I would honestly say it’s in my top 3 favorite consoles with the exclusives and other games you can’t find on PS5 but are still listed on PS4. Modding it even unlocks it potential even more and it’s something to take advantage of especially with a PSTV.
It kind of blew most games sucked. If it vould play ps3 games yes ot woulf b good
Sony has become a hardware company that doesn’t understand software. PSP and Vita were beautiful, but that doesn’t matter if the software is not there. That’s where Nintendo’s strength comes in, from far less powerful consoles like the GameBoy.
PSP was a great success though... but not Vita
I rememeber going to Best Buy to buy one but then I saw the prices for the memory cards, it was some stupid amount like 70$. This was pre covid dollars too so thats like 180$ today, for a memory card.
@@baronvonslambert The dollar has lost over 30% just in the last 4 years. So in just that time 100 dollars is down to 70.
$70 in 2011 is worth $98.12 today - Google. Still crazy.
Entries from Ratchet and Clank, God of War, GTA, Metal Gear Solid or even Infamous series would've pushed the Vita very well. I listed those games because a majority of those titles help push the PSP. A more accesssible and affordable memory option would've worked as well, since consumers had issues with how expensive the proprietary memory card options were.
More first party games doesn't automatically make a console better
No, but it does keep adopters loyal.
I love my Vita and invested in so many games good and bad. I’m playing Monster Hunter frontier and it’s been a blast. I haven’t finished Killzone mercenary and there’s a guy trying to bring its multiplayer back 👏🏾.
I love how people are bringing old multiplayer games back like I recently found out Flatout 2 Multiplayer on steam Deck was brought back by the community
Vita has more exclusives than PS5
Yet it’s sales pale in comparison to ps5
@@zainebrown1351 well duh it’s the Vita lmao
Playstation portal is better and selling well though 🤣
It’s sad that this is true lol
I think one of the main reasons the 3DS killed the Vita is the fact that it's just an upgraded DS so people could bring their whole library with them where the Vita moved from the disks to cartridges so we couldn't play our psp games on the Vita
but u could still download psp games on the Psstore
@mrtitanspeakerman this is true but at that time most of us had a decent physical library that we couldn't do anything with unless you kept your psp where with the 3DS we didn't have that problem
@@Rojo-Infernoyea and also the price
@@BlackMesaResearcher only a fraction of the PSP's library was available
@@ericp631you could still copy over and play over any PSP games you bought digitally even if they weren’t on the vita store thanks to the integrated PSP hardware.
even today, the OLED display on the original vita looks absolutely gorgeous, such a shame it didn't do well.
something about the psvita 1000 that isn't talked about much is the mistery port, according to some people that analyzed it in depth it was supposed to allow at leas video out, but it was scrapped probably at the finish line, could you imagine having as a selling point being able to play a console level game on the go, dock your console and continue on the tv with a playstation controller? it would have probably been a killer feature, and i bet the engineer that first proposed the port felt pretty vendicated when the switch had a huge success thanks to that feature, and the pstv is surely born out of this scrapped feature
Don't think a lot of people would be interested to play it on the tv(hence the vita TV didn't sell great and the marketing was more focust on streaming your ps3/ps4 to a different tv).
The vita resolution was 540p. It looked good on a small screen but on a big screen like with the vita TV you could see the pixels easily.
The psp had the same problem(resolution was 272p) . They made a cable to play the games on your TV. But almost only youtubers used it or atleast it wasn't sold that much.
The switch on the other hand can go up to 1080p in the dock. So about 2x the resolution
@@pepijn_m the 1080p switch is a common misconception, the max internal resolution(wich is then upscaled to display resolution) of the switch for most games is 720p, only a handful of extremely light games touch 1080p, as an example xenoblade Chronicles 2 in docked mode runs between 540p and 720p (and from my experience it is more often 540p) and between 378 and 540 in handheld, meanwhile the vita with an overclock plugin currently can bring many games to stable fps with full resolution(and that is with it's current hope and prayers cooling system), regarding the pstv it was too little too late, why buy a home only console for the price of an used ps3/4 based on the library of the already killed psvita with all it's drawbacks and none of the advantages?
@@pepijn_m i replied but youtube ate my comment, so i'll write it again:
the 1080p switch is a common misconception, the max internal resolution of the switch for most games is 720p, only a handful of extremely light games touch 1080p, as an example xenoblade Chronicles 2 in docked mode runs between 540p and 720p (and from my experience it is more often towards 540p) and between 378 and 540 in handheld, meanwhile the vita with an overclock plugin currently can bring many games to stable (and in some cases 60) fps with full 576p resolution(and that is with it's current hope and prayers cooling system), regarding the pstv it was too little too late, why buy a home only console for the price of an used ps3/4 based on the library of the already killed psvita with all it's drawbacks and none of the advantages? As a final note there are some community projects which enable controller and video out support on the vita, and in my experience it's not too bad
It would have been great if you mentioned why Nintendo beat out the Vita in more depth. I believe the issue as you mention with mobile phone advancement is that unlike Nintendo the other offerings lacked a specific winning formula for a handheld gaming device in order to separate itself from home consoles.
I used to own a PSVITA, though I traded it for a Nintendo Switch. Personally I think Sony could have gone far with the Vita if they had put more effort into it, though instead they decided to ditch it to focus more on both the PS3 and PS4 , which is a shame because the Vita was a awesome handheld with alot of potential.
@bluetarantulaproductions6179 while portal is selling like hotcakes. Explain that? 🤣
I’d love to hear you talk about the PSP and the piracy issue!
🤯 Yukari..
Please do one on the Wii U, because it's eerily similar to this
Stay tuned 🫡
More of a “marketing confusion” situation there. I also think Nintendo learned more from that experience than Sony learned from the Vita.
@@pokepressI think Sony learned a lot from the ps3,vita indeed less. Which in turn made Microsoft overestimate how much people wanted to buy the Xbox one(hence Sony won the ps4 console war).
Not sure if Sony will make a real portable handheld again. The Playstation portal sold okay but only streams games. The market has now also become more split with valve and other companies making it posible to play pc games instead of Nintendo being the only handheld console maker.
I bought a PS Vita really close to the European release. I used it basically as a smartphone for a long time (until around late 2015), I only switched to a real smartphone because WhatsApp became a necessity at school.
But now, when I see this video, I see a huge problem at least on the German PR of this console. I didn't now 75% of the features mentioned here in the video exist. E. g. streaming you PS4 games - I mean wtf, how cool is that?! That would have been a huge selling point for many people at school.
And yeah as mentioned the games where a real problem. Uncharted looking from today was surely impressive for this time. But honestly it was just a "okay" game at the time. And all other memorable games I played on this console where PSP games.
Great video! :D
You just need to keep yourself updated with the firmware versions they put out during the Vita life cycle. The PS3/PS4 streaming app gets automatically installed during one of Vita's firmware updates. I have been playing PS3/4 Jrpgs on Vita while lying on my bed for the last decade.
As someone who owns 4 PS Vita's, i still love them so much, and i feel it's hard for it to die, but i love the way you mentioned its history, and how things didn't work out because of those many reasons!, keep releasing such great videos! and thanks!
Thanks for watching!!
The plural is ps Vitae. Lol
@@guilhermegoldmanfor real hey?
@@iBMcFly Sony just had to name it something worst than 3ds. 😅
@@guilhermegoldman I think both systems have decent names.
Is anyone else still getting a bunch of hours out of their vita😂
@@IceyDio mostly remoteplay and PSP "emulation".
Yep, EDF servers are still active and FREE!
If they leaned wayyy more into backwards compatibility with the Vita it would have been a massive hit. Just imagine having the entire Ps1,Ps2 and PsP Libraries on this thing in addition to the exclusives. 🤩
I got one on launch because I am a Wipeout fan and it launched with a new Wipeout.
Killzone Mercenary was the last game I bought on the thing and that was like a year into its life.
Software support was piss poor when you weren't looking for indie games or jrpgs.
So i didn't touch it until Corona, when I discovered the modding community. Since then the Vita got a second life for me. Its very versatile and with the right plugins you can play the PSP Wipeout games in nativ Vita resolution, which looks amazing. Big treat for lovers of the handling nuances in Pulse and especially Pure. I also loved replaying GTA San Andreas, I probably would have never done that on a home console.
But I can say that the Vita basically has my favorite form factor. I also have a Switch and I used a Steamdeck before, the Vita is so slick compared to them.
Thats what makes it feel so ahead of its time imo. This thing was still supposed to fit in your pocket.
Honestly SONY shud have gotten rid of the useless shovelwares, trackpad, AR, Gyro and camera in favour of better specs, battery, built in storage and L2, R2, L3, R3 buttons
Also, instead of having a useless 3G model, they should have just included a LCD version as the starter and OLED version as the definitive console.
Till now, many of my friends didn't even know that the psp had a successor and so not calling it the psp 2, made SONY dropped the ball hard.
Finally, the games are thrash. Resistance flopped. Unit 13 is boring and had a hellish input lag. Cod declassified sucked so hard and yet it was the best selling ps vita game. The only great flagship games were killzone, uncharted and Little Big Planet. Monster hunter didnt return to PS Vita and some of the best selling psp games did not return either. There were no GTA or even GOW games other than ports of the previous generations. The only thing great about the ps vita now are its mods and homebrew. But now with the steamdeck, there is no reason to own a Vita anymore.
I agree with the Shovelware, trackpad, AR, and camera, but Gyro aim is a godsend in any game that requires aiming. Also, MonHun did come back to Vita with Frontier... It was just Japan exclusive.
@@Blackpapalink Agree about the gyro. Really good thing if made correctly
Great vid man I love these types of videos! Maybe a video on current gen gaming? It’s not dead but it kinda feels that way
Great video. I really miss these days. What I wouldn’t give to go back
Sorry but how tf do you have 2.35k subs, this content is fantastic and well made, you deserve way more.
Sony didn't realise how to support 2 consoles at once ? Really ? This is not the problem cuz this isn't true, they supported not 2 but even 3 consoles at once - PSP, PS2 and PS3 for couple of years. They also supported PS1 and PS2 at the same time. They supported PS3 and PS4 for a few years too, and of course PS4 and PS5. So you are wrong here.
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The Reason for the Vita Memory Cards being as expensive as they are come basically down to sonys decision to use high quality binnings which were considerably expensive to buy exclusively. But they literally had to do that as they pushed those cards to quite high transferspeeds and clocks, so using cheaper memory would have meant a lot of the dying in the long term.
Don't think it would die fast. 3ds/switch uses SD cards and haven't heard from people around me that it died.
I don't think it would die. 3ds/switch uses SD cards and haven't heard from people around me that it died.
SD cards would have been fine.
There's a reason why they no longer supported the PlayStation Vita. It costs too much to make an exclusive game on PlayStation Vita, as you said before many PlayStation Vita games are Spinoffs and collections, if they were to make a high quality exclusive game on PlayStation Vita it would cost them as much as a PlayStation 3 game, which was crazy in 2012.
Also Nintendo had problems supporting 2 consoles around in the Wii U era, that's why they unified the teams and made 1 console instead of 2.
Playstation portal is better 😂
Playstation portal says hi
@@EnaTenkiyoGamer I didn't get anything, maybe the ps portal lost its wifi connection. 🤣
@@guilhermegoldman hahaha Nintendo switch fanboy crying over the playstation portal 🤣
@@EnaTenkiyoGamer Nintendo left my country after the Wii bc we like piracy a bit too much. Lol
Wouldn't matter anyway since it wouldn't fit in my uniform and I do most of my gaming while away from home. For now I'm sticking to my 3ds and Vita.
As a kid, I had the intention to buy it as I enjoy PSP so much with my friend. However, it worth noting that I was basically privating most of my PSP game and knowing that I cannot do so with the Vita on top of the ridiculus price and form factor of the memory stick really discourage me from buying one
1) The proprietary memory cards were wildly too expensive
2) No on board storage whatsoever out of the box forcing #1 to be very painful - these two points limited impulse digital buys a lot.
3) The 3G version was a terrible idea from square one. They should’ve released one unified model.
Nintendo had to price cut the 3DS to 170. I think Sony maybe could’ve charge 50 bucks more than that at launch if they’d also given us normal priced memory cards.
4) They abandoned very fast and though we got a couple good games, many titles they came out just weren’t very good. The CoD game and Resistance one for example were awful.
PSP was far less powerful but a game like MGS Peace Walker still holds up very well (especially in a portable format) - having the better hardware hardly matters of the games are better elsewhere (eg the 3DS outsold the Vita by a wide margin in the end).
It’s a shame because the system had a lot of potential and I loved Persona 4 and Gravity Daze on my Vita.
the crazy part was that most games needed updates to work or had content that wasn’t on the cart, so if you didn’t have a memory card you basically couldn’t play a lot of games
Could've had a genuine shot if they switched to microsd with the revised models and didn't gimp the streaming apps on the pstv.
Commenting before watching the whole thing.
I recently got a region free Vita from Japan, and I absolutely love it. The problem I'm having is with the proprietary memory card. Why does Sony do this? It's so hard to get a memcard. They could have just slapped a standard Micro SD and called it a day.
Really good video. I think you overstated the quality of the VITA exclusive titles though. In most cases, I think people saw the vita versions of Sony franchise games as cut down versions - that made you want to play the real thing.
You forgot that Freedom Wars was the Vita's last exclusive in 2014.
I believe Oreshika came out 2015. Still stuck on vita.
And nice timing for the comment. Get hyped!
This is why I haven't gotten a vita yet (since the wave of "retro" handheld nostalgia a lot of people have been in. I brought ds model's.)
But there isn't really anything on the ps vita / psp I feel I desperately need to try (that I can't experience elsewhere)
Perfectly proved that graphics don't sell a console, even if you throw in the kitchen sink.
0:15 Concord enters the chat.
At least the Vita sold units
@ZuoKalp at least the playstation portal sold well Nintendrone 😂
That a game 🤡👈
@@EnaTenkiyoGamer ?
@@ZuoKalp Exactly 🤣
For me, when they stopped releasing first party games and referring to it as a remote play device and place for indies, i just gave up.
I liked the device prior to the direction change but with no decent new games released after killzone mercenary, i didn't but anything else
I also think Sonys direction now of releasing on PC is going to kill their console business long term in exchange for short term profits.
Even if they launch a portable ps5. The fact that they launch exclusives on pc now means it isn't really a big selling point
i was in 7th grade back when remote play was introduced. I would take my vita to school and play my ps4 games. everyone thought i was the shit for it too. good times
I love the Vita. I still have my Slim and it is amazing.
I had PSP slim in 2009. But I never bought any games except fifa 09 which came with it. The psp was dying out slowly around that time. Ps3 was at its height with games like call of duty etc. Nobody really needed one unless they're travelling. Now I have the remote play for the ps5. Much better design & feels more efficient to use it. If Sony do ever bring back portable gaming in this age & age, it will hit off. Especially if it's not remote play.
They missed out by not including actual phone sim capability. They only had a data sim for internet. Vita released just as smartphones blew up outside japan.
Everyone started to look for all in 1 devices around then
Ypu should do a full video on mobile gaming, that would be pretty interesting. I completley forgot about how there were a lot of mobile games attempting AAA quality in the early 2010's until you mentioned it.
Still have mine. Found it in one of our storage boxes after 11-12 years and several moves and moving from one country to another. Charged it and it still fires perfectly.
They tried to save Vita by making Vita TV to expand its user base.... except they forgot to adapt any games to the lack of a touchpad, or adapt apps like Netflix. So you had a gaming-oriented TV setup box that had no games or streaming capability.
I have my fingers crossed the PS+ Premium sub will eventually bring PS VITA games.
I already played a good amount of PSP games on a freaking PS5 😂
I was the few people who bought the PS vita since was a huge Sony fanboy back than . I even bought the 32gb since it was on very good deal 70 dollars . in 2013 few hours i was going to gradate from high school i pre order the jak and Daxter collection . Somehow i was able to beat the game . And if you don't know that game ran around 20-24 fps and it was very unstable . God of war collection was alright on the vita . Same with ratchet and clank . But the best port was the mgs collection . And somehow the PS vita version is better than the 2023 switch version . i still don't understand how the switch cant run it at 60 fps . But i was able to play gravity rush , uncharted , freedom wars , and Persona 4 golden
I think what killed Vita was the propriety card which was at that time really expensive, while Nintendo was using the standard microSD for their console. From there it was a domino effect, expensive propriety card led to poor sales, and poor sales led to poor developer's support hence the limited library of games. If developers would support a console, of course to the one which will sell more. It was too late when microSD with adapter was used in Vita.
Excellent vid! The Playstation Portal might be saved now that you can connect to public wifis and mobile hotspots, maybe a vid about that?
I still use the Vita - and it doesn't even really feel that outdated in 2024. The UI hasn't aged very well and the screen is a little on the small side. Other than that it's a fantastic system. Honestly, the Vita is a big reason why I started to lose faith in Sony.
You can see them repeating the same mistake. They release a good piece of hardware, give it an initial software push, then forgot it exists entirely. They did it with the Vita, Playstation Move, and both versions of the VR headset.
Agreed. It’s an awesome little system. I hate the UI since day one though. Ugliest UI I’ve ever seen on a console.
i love love love the vita, but in its stock, unmodified form, it is a genuine piece of troll hardware, requiring you to sign in and be online TO TRANSFER FILES FROM YOUR COMPUTER, gladly the hacking/jailbreaking community has saved this system from sony's bullcrap
Thanks for mentioning the smartphone era as a strong competitor, that was the main reason why i switched
I think the marketing concept behind the Vita was solid, conceptually. "Vita" meaning Life, blurring the boundaries between entertainment and your life, a console that fits nicely in your life that you can casually play and enjoy in little snippets of your day - that's really solid thinking for a handheld. In retrospect, I can also see how they felt that 3G data fit into that mold. But the idea of having a data plan for your portable game system is just laughable and out of touch, I'm not surprised everyone balked at that. I really think they just didn't stick the landing with the features surrounding the gaming aspect of the system, like the 3DS did. The 3DS really felt so comfortable to pick up and play, and its little gizmo apps were so much fun to mess around with, Streetpass was a great system for community. The Vita also just didn't have the games to support the console like the 3DS did.
Great vid bro . We need a Wii U ,Jaguar , 3DO and Amiga CD ones now 😂👍🏼
I think it's so ironic that one of my favorite consoles of all time, is the worst selling console that the developer ever put out?!
Ironic
I was tempted at one point back in 2014, as the Vita was sold with a 16GB memory card and 10 digital versions of games, all main big hitters for just £130 which was a huge bargain at the time for what the package is. But I still just walked away from it; the damage was severe and already done and the knowledge that there was nothing else coming for it going forwards sealed it.
The memory card situation was insane, especially when the Nintendo 3DS allowed you to use the far more common and near universally used microSD cards, the same format that's used for smartphones and is still used for the Nintendo Switch models today. Making proprietary stuff is something you'd expect Nintendo to do, not Sony and Playstation; that's how backwards that situation was.
Back in the day I promised myself to only buy the Vita when a Granturismo releases on it. That day unfortunately never came.
One issue of PSVita was the lack of backwards compatibility with PSP disks.
3DS on the other hand had access to the massive DS library.
By the way Minecraft was the killer up for PSVita.
I also adored EDF 2 and EDF 3, which are great games. 4 player coop, locally or online.
And their servers are still alive!
The memory cards literally dug this consoles grave before it came out also that revision was so stupid it shouldn’t even be the same console anymore i understand they were trying to cut Cost but the fact that the oled screen was such an amazing thing the OG vita had when I look at the slim I physically feel like I’m looking at a downgrade. When I look at a ps3 fat and slim I don’t get that same vibe except with the super slim that looks like trash. But also them abandoning the system was the nail in the coffin because I still think it could of had a chance for a resurgence but Sony gave this system no chance
Playstation portal exists and is selling well. Keep crying Nintendo switch fanboy 🤣
Contrary to popular belief, I think the Vita failed because its Western library was lackluster.
The PSP got its own God of War games, Grand Theft Auto’s, Monster Hunters, Metal Gear Solid’s, the list goes on; some titles on par or even better than the home console games.
The Vita got…Uncharted and WipeOut I guess? And a terrible CoD, a poorly optimized Borderlands 2 port, and other games I’d rather just play on PS3. The PSP had similar issues but not quite as bad.
PlayStation handhelds have never really felt like must-own systems, rather just cool niche things in the moment. Unlike Nintendo handhelds where they’ll put the next mainline entry in their Pokémon or Mario Kart series, the PS handhelds always got spin-offs that didn’t matter. The only PS handheld game I can think of that is a mainline entry in its series is MGS Peace Walker (which if you ask me, should’ve been delayed, called “MGS5,” and been a PS3/Vita Crossplay title.)
@@morsecode980long wall of butthurt text Nintendo switch fanboy lmao
@@morsecode980 playstation portal subreddit tells you to go post there and cry about it hahaha
hell the PSP Had Crisis core:Final Fantasy VII, sony/developers tried to support the psp, they had no interest in the vita and once it got cracked it was game over
@bobboman playstation portal is selling well and ps6 portable hybrid will be made alongside the ps6 so cry about it hahaha
I used my vita quite a bit back when it was new. Though when my 64 gb memory card randomly got corrupted I stopped using it. If only sony didn't have the priotery memory I would have seen this console in a better light and I know the unoffical means with the sd2vita but it sucks that there had to be a work around at all.
All I remember this for is that stupid House of Cards product placement-“Is that the PS Vita?”
What i loved in vita: literally all console visual novel are released for vita in the 2010s also Danganronpa zero escape, tokyo twilight ghost hunters. I literally can't tell any anime/jrpg franchise what didn't got a release for vita. I thought the switch can be a good successor, but nope. Somehow the mid budget japanese games are kinda stopped coming after the vita finish, or being ps4 exclusives. But somehow high quality f2p games started to coming from China even for mobile from mihoyo (genshin, honkai, zenless) hotta studios (tower of fantasy, neverness to everness) kuro games (wuthering waves) but non of them are available on switch somehow.
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Theme Launch model used OLED, not LED.
To me the Achilles Heel of the Vita was the game library. When it comes to original titles, 3DS had it beat in all regards, especially since Nintendo were fine-tuning their games to suit the weaker hardware. Most Vita games were just dumbed down, worse versions of games you could have on PS3. Only reason to get a Vita is if you were an import enthusiast exploring the JP library.
8:00 don't forget about the release of Mortal Kombat 9 on the console, not only it's the whole game it even has extra content
Sony had every opportunity to make this system one of the best ever, and do be fair, it's a great piece of tech, but their pricing and lack of true support for it was what really killed it. Having to pay $299.99 plus $49.99 for a halfway decent memory card, plus another $49.99 for each game you wanted was just absurd. And their slowing support just made the system feel barren. I actually got a Vita for Christmas in 2012, and I remember having to wait until the day after to buy a memory card and being stunned at the prices. And while I had fun with the system, I was really hoping to see more first party games released than what we got.
The slim variant has a chance to brick itself any moment (something to do with the power chip) and what's worse is that the issue itself is not documented very well (but posts can be seen from many forums to repair forums, reddit, etc. yet there's no proper investigation around it on what makes it croak) it really makes troubleshooting pain in the behind
not to mention the phat variant has the gpu issue that just keeps crashing
i own 3 vitas and I love the console so much. There’s so many weird Japanese games that were launched on it, but the proprietary memory cards were definitely ridiculous. I love how it had a huge psp and ps1 library. Metal Gear Solid Peace walker is so good on the vita thanks to the second analogue stick. Vita does stuff that the switch still doesn’t. The User interface is SO GOOD. you can have multiple applications open, custom themes, bluetooth headphone support, the near feature for when you run into other vita players on the go, and pages showing multiple apps and games that are easy to scroll through. This thing was ridiculous with how good the UX was.
The 3ds had a similar relaease problem also, but they stuck through on the 3ds still pumping out amazing games for it and it sucks they gave up on the console only after a couple years.
Still got my day 1 Vita... In storage somewhere.
- Wipeout (with the Virgin network promo)
- Killzone M., Uncharted, Injustice
Eventually soft modded and just using Emulation.
I had a Vita when it was current and I owned roughly five games for it not counting PS1 classics (LittleBigPlanet, Sonic ASR Transformed, Rayman Legends, The Lego Movie Game... uh...) and holy hell I really want to like it, but honestly the best Vita game was Browser. Legit for whatever reason I primarily just used it as, like, a substitute for a smartphone when I don't even think I had a working SIM in it (one day I'm planning on sifting through all of the pictures I downloaded and other psychologically painful residue from my early teens), it was a really charming console but you know it's doomed when the only Sonic content is a port of a spinoff and there isn't even a generational Mega Drive compilation on it, even the PSP had that and a couple of original Sonic games (forgettable as they were)
It's so depressing what happened to the Vita. It was pretty ahead of its time in some ways, like with the Cross-Buy Program being a sort of precursor to the Switch's biggest selling point.
They certainly _tried_ to support it with unique games at one point (don't forget Gravity Rush debuted on the Vita), but ultimately I got the impression that Sony just wasn't all that invested in setting resources aside to make new experiences for it. Nintendo's handhelds had smaller scale games, but unlike Sony they didn't treat them like they were less important or less viable than their home consoles. Even now they're content with releasing the PS Portal, a "handheld" in quotation marks that's just a PS5 accessory made to capitalize on the Switch's success instead of a proper handheld.
I wanted to buy a Vita, but even the seller said me that physical copies were import only, and the online store wasn’t available in my region at that time.
Didn’t know at that moment but that dumb restriction made me believe that the Vita wasn’t worth investing for a market expansion.
0:16 Concord said "Hold my beer" to that one 😆
When the PSVITA was launching, I was still trying to get a replacement PSP3000. They should have just made it an upgraded PSP and allowed us to use our own SD Cards. It was ahead of its time, but at the end of the day, games sell consoles.
The reasons i never got one:
1. Proprietary memory sticks. It was my biggest orientation with the PSP and Sony made it worse by making an entirely new memory stick that was insanely expensive. PSP memory was never that much do it was pure greed. I always said I would get a Vita as soon as they caved and made an SD card model.
2. 3rd party support. I bought the PSP because of Square-Enix. I always thought "as soon as they announce a new Kingdom Hearts or Dissidia for the Vita, I'll get one." But they completely abandoned the system.
my main issue was most of the big games tried to have console quality graphics but as a result ran very poorly. It was just not enjoyable to play these games because of that. If they toned down the graphics a bit I think it would be more fun to play
If the PS Vita memory cards didn’t cost so much, and the system itself was $50 less at launch I think it would have done well. It had a decent library of games, and it was quite the powerful handheld. Plus it had an OLED touchscreen, and a good one at that, back in 2011 when that screen tech was still in its infancy in smartphones, televisions, and any other device with a screen.
Also, I don’t think it’s fair to say that the PS Vita didn’t know what it wanted to be just because it had smartphone features. The 3DS and the DSi prior also had a camera that can take photos and videos, and a touchscreen. The only thing it didn’t have was 3G. But even then, the PS Vita was clearly a game console with optional 3G for on to go online gaming. It wasn’t trying to be a smartphone, it was just giving consumers nice to have optional features but it was just executed poorly.
Not ever.. the PSVR 2 is the biggest failure
Psvr 2 is not a console
They could hardly make games for ps5 how is the psvr2 surprising in any way
Mobile gaming did change all of gaming, now even single player $80 games have microtransactions...
I’ll never forget getting the vita for Christmas as a kid and man killzone and the walking dead had me playing that game every day for months after I got it really wish they did more
2 things you forgot to mention:
1) Many of the exclusives that would have attracted Western gamers such as Resistance, Killzone and CoD, were only average to downright terrible.
2) The loss of the Monster Hunter series to Nintendo was a massive blow in Japan.
Thank God that, now, the biggest playstation mistake is Concord. I can go sleep better.
19:18 there is a reason why they made it that expensive. Unlike microSD cards, Sony was the sole manufacturer of these proprietary memory cards. They do not have the benefit of scaling up production, so the per unit cost is definitely gonna be expensive.
I also think this contributed to the death of the console. The DS/3DS did not care that their console is easily hackable. They kinda used piracy as an advantage to move more units. It is only now we're figuring out how to expand the PS Vita's memory using custom flexible PCBs which were not available back when the PS Vita was still sold.
While piracy may be seen as something bad by Sony or the gaming companies, they don't exactly see that. They rely on unit sales more.
I wonder how the PS Vita would have been received if it launched at $200 (LCD screen, no rear touchpad, no 4G) and used regular MicroSD cards.
Back then the sony vita had a quad core processor even smartphones were coming with only dual core processor.... This was huge i think.. With touch pad at the back and a camera also 3 g Wi-Fi enabled was a big thing...
The vita was something I wanted to love, but just didn't. For something that checked off so many of the boxes of things I like/wanted, but it just not clicking, it feels weird. It's a great console in a vacuum, but it was exposed (at least for me) by other consoles past and present existing. It's hard to get excited about games you've already played or exist in improved and cheaper forms on other systems you own.
PS Portal says hi
Its crazy they made the PSP which was a really good handheld to then make the Vita which was mediocre, then they stopped making handhelds all together
Playstation portal exists and is selling well 😂😂😂
V8ta is better than psp lol, it’s the perfect evol6tion of it, especialy oled
The vita itself is just purely better specs wise minus the sd