Hey Simon, I noticed with the CURV chronograph some of them has 'Ultra High Frequency' instead of 'High Performance Quartz' on the case back, is that a way to check whether it's fake? Or is it a matter of various editions may have different engravings on the back? I want to purchase this watch but I've noticed this slight difference from different sellers of these watches. Thank you
Hi! No. I get this question very often. Unfortunately some guy on UA-cam put a video out and has absolutely no idea what he is talking about. BOTH are 100% real. Bulova changed the wording on their newer watches..you can feel safe buying either one. Thanks!
SimonTheWatchGuy thanks a lot Simon! I’m not sure if you heard of the online website Jomashop and they have amazing deals! They’re currently selling this Bulova Curv chronograph for more than 50% off but I noticed the difference in the engraving hence my concerns. Thanks a lot for clarifying this for me.
I have the same questions , someones said water resist , and videos said should be water resistant , i have 2 watches and both said resistant . I want to buy original one
Loved your review! Just got mine today after watching your video. Titanium on rubber strap with deployant clasp. Very well built and supremely comfortable on my 7.25" wrist. The diagonal striping and smoky color look fantastic!
Awesome vid. My grandmother always recommended Bulova watches and I honor her memory by only buying Bulova. It’s amazing to know after all this time that the brand is still taking bold leaps and bounds in its effort to provide a unique style and consistent quality. I’ve always liked Bulova because their high end watches always look like they’re worth more than the retail price (and my Grandma had s-t-y-l-e so I trusted her fashion choices lol). I was confident in this choice, but your vid “pushed” me over the edge. Thanks!
Glad the video was useful for you!! Bulova are great - owned by Citizen too now, so you know you're getting a good quality watch that'll last many, many years, if not a lifetime if treated well. Enjoy it!!
Not been in the hobby long but I think this is a brilliant design. 1. Its original, which is saying a lot in the watch business , especially because its classy without being too busy yet still has plenty of interesting details which is a difficult balance. 2. The movement is groundbreaking, Grand Seiko level precision. Maybe they should have charged a ridiculous sum, then it might appeal to the snobs. 3 The curved design actually is a real improvement in structure. Watches have to fit on the organic human wrist which happens to not be flat. Simple perhaps but its a pretty big deal and original. 4. the Aesthetics match the above technology in that its sleek, modern with technical materials like titanium. The sapphire skeletal design adds more technical interest. I love it and think its a bargain for what you get. Maybe, in time, I will become a jaded watch snob but for now ignorance is bliss.lol
I have an accutron and I bought it because of the story with omega and the moon. And I’ve been checking this particular watch for literally years but I never was completely sure if I should get it or not, but after watching your video I feel like I really need it jaja. Great review 👍🏼
Three days ago I've tried one on ant it fits really good and light. The one I tried has a Stainless Steel band painted black. I have my concerns about the paint peeling off from the band, but I guess you can always have a black sharpie around to fix it.
It looks and sounds like you enjoy it big time and that is great. I have my eye for this watch for quite a while and hope to get one of these at some point. I subscribed.
I have this watch and do really like it for its comfort due to the curve and light weight. I find the rubber band to be a bit frustrating due to the snugness of the fit when trying to pass the end thru the buckle. Had I known there was a metal band available I would have likely gone that route. Great video tho.
Have seen the curve in local jewellers, the facia and curv is quite impressive. For me it's let down by a rubber strap, it would look better with a distressed leather suede strap. Jewellers in my home town goes for £699, nice review shame some idiots decided to comment fake.
Hi all! Quick question on the bracelet. Do You know if Bulova sells this bracelet as spare/replacement part? I mean, obviously this is not a regular bracelet and I am afraid that, if the bracelet suffers some damage, I wont be able to get a replacement. Thanks!
Soon as I saw it I wanted it. Told my fiancé babe really like this watch little expensive should I get it. She said babe of course if you like it you work hard you deserve it go buy it now. So I took her wise decision and bought it. It really is a nice watch fits amazing.
what do you think about this watch compares to bulova snorkel chrono? one thing i like about snorkel and lobster is that their bulova logo contains luminous paint.
The snorkel is a beautiful watch - it has 100m water resistance I believe? Whereas the curv has 30m which is disappointing. I think it comes down to whether you want an extremely stylish watch (curv) Vs a chrono with water resistance and an arguably better looking Bulova hand. It's a difficult decision. I'm not a huge Chrono fan. If the curv had water resistance it would be the only watch I need. I've probably confused you more... Let me know what you end up going with !
I'm seriously considering this exact 98A162 Curv watch. I'm somewhat concerned about the non-screw down crown though. I'm not looking to go deep sea diving or anything extreme, but I would need it to handle jumping in a swimming pool, ocean, shower and such. Do you think it it could manage these aquatic activities without sustaining water damage?
Shower, yes. Splashes of water yes. Rain, yes. But no to pool, ocean etc. It's a stunning watch and I've had many, many compliments on it. It's a real shame it's not a screw down crown but it's not a diver and not supposed to be a tool watch, it's more of a sophisticated dress watch... so I can understand why they didn't put one on. I personally think get one, but just take it off for pool or ocean activities. If you do wear in the shower, just be a little careful with steam getting inside, that can be dangerous to many watches. Thanks for checking out the video and commenting.
@@simonthewatchguy6073 Thanks for the reply. It's a cracking good looking watch and I still believe I might do it. I already have a few dedicated water watches so I think I could fit this one in as regular activity piece.
Hello! First of all, nice review! I have a question I was hoping you could help me with, please: what's the natural state of the seconds hand? does it normally stay steady or does it do a seconds hand function regardless of pressing the bottom button? I have the brown version and when I clic on the bottom button to rest the hand, if I don't click on the upper button to start the chronometer, I would assume the seconds hand should remain steady permanently unless I press on the bottom button again to perform it's seconds-measurement functionality. But it doesn't; instead, if the seconds hand is doing it's regular function and I press the bottom button to reset it and leave it like that, the seconds hand start moving to perform seconds-measurement functionality after a period of time without me pressing the bottom button to do it (it goes automatically to show the seconds again), is this behavior normal? Thanks a lot in advanced!
Good question. That's normal behaviour. It assumes you don't want to use the chronometer and starts ticking again. The seconds hand ticks twice per second. When you finish using the chronograph, the seconds return back to exactly where they should be (they're still being counted in the background whilst you're timing something). Hope this helps!
Anyone know where I can find replacement straps for this specific watch? I looked everywhere and couldn't find a site. I'd prefer to replace them myself if possible
half price at the moment in the UK H Samuel has them in stock, I was considering one until the issue regarding the stra was noticed, I've decided not to pull the trigger on one now....
Thanks for sharing!! Maybe someone will see this and go for it. I hear you on the strap 'issue'. It's one of those things - hardly any watch is built with the intention of lasting forever.
Don't know if anybody still views this video. But I had my battery replaced. They put the case back on a 180 degrees in reverse. Now the top and bottom buttons don't work. Is that the cause????
It’s a chronograph. It counts hours, minutes and seconds. I’ve not got the watch anymore but from memory, press the button right button so the hand spins to 12. Then the top right button should be pressed to start the timer. The top left circle is hours, top right minutes, and bottom seconds. Press the top left button to stop the timer and finally the bottom right button to reset the timer. Press the bottom right button again to return the seconds to where they should be for normal time.
I have a question , it is original ? Because i been investigation about this watch and i found someones has errors , spelling wrong , should said water resistant not water resist , do you know something about it ? Thanks . I am scare tu buy one that is not original
I’ve answered this many times on this comment section. This watch is 100% real. Bulova changed the lettering on the back and some idiot went on UA-cam thinking he had a fake and started the rumour. It’s just a baseless rumour. They’re all real.
It might look a little bit big. If I was you i would try to wear it at an authorised dealer maybe. Or if you have to, get the measurements and try on a similar watch with those measurements.
Just the same as any other Watch. Pull out the crown on the right hand side and twist it to set the time. Once you’re done, push it back in and that’s it
Jordi Crespo bulova do many watches with a butterfly clasp. In a way a clasp might be better because it’s probably less likely to degrade over time and the rubber is quite difficult to feed through the loop and get on.
This watch uses a proprietary watchband and Bolova does not have any replacements. Kept that in mind, once the rubber strap cracks and wears out you won’t be able to replace it.
Bulova do have replacements at around $90. I have asked them and they do have spares. If you plan on keeping the watch long term, it may be a good idea to purchase a spare now.
SimonTheWatchGuy I called their parts department in NYC right before they closed the parts department .( covid 19 closure ) and I was told there are none available. I am concerned because I have three Curv watches, one uses a traditional band but the other two use proprietary bands. Who did you talk to and when did you talk to them?
@@posaune05 I spoken to the European Citizen customer service team (Citizen own Bulova) and they were happy to ship me one. That was approx 3 month ago.
SimonTheWatchGuy would you be so kind as to pass that info on to me. I was in contact with Bulova and they thought they had them for $132.50 but their parts department was in the process of moving to California. Anyway, don’t you think that $132.50 plus tax is a little bizarre for a rubber watchband?
I like the curvature of that watch. The rest of it sucks! I’m sorry, I’m a watch seller, I know. Get Citizen Eco-Drive watches or any cheap watch that you can change the battery easily.
I thought mine was uncomfortable, only a 7.5" wrist. Received as a gift. When I saw it was $400, I freaked out and told them it was too small. Paying MSRP for this would be insane. What a eye sore!
You've got no clue what you're talking about. It's absolutely genuine. Bulova changed the wording on the watch. It's obviously real and bought direct from a Jewellers
Please go to the video about the "fake" Bulova curves and view all the comments. You'll find the poster of the video was incorrect . They're genuine Bulova 100%
@@BAKHIS what are you talking about? The watch is obviously genuine. Bulova confirmed it's real. Look at watchuseek forums. Look at the posts on the Curv video. You're reading incorrect information. Please come back and apologize when you're ready.
@@simonthewatchguy6073 I will apolagize for him.... Since he is a complete Grade A moron. An he never apolagized himself. So take my sorry for his if you will.....
Hey Simon, I noticed with the CURV chronograph some of them has 'Ultra High Frequency' instead of 'High Performance Quartz' on the case back, is that a way to check whether it's fake? Or is it a matter of various editions may have different engravings on the back? I want to purchase this watch but I've noticed this slight difference from different sellers of these watches. Thank you
Hi! No. I get this question very often. Unfortunately some guy on UA-cam put a video out and has absolutely no idea what he is talking about. BOTH are 100% real. Bulova changed the wording on their newer watches..you can feel safe buying either one. Thanks!
SimonTheWatchGuy thanks a lot Simon! I’m not sure if you heard of the online website Jomashop and they have amazing deals! They’re currently selling this Bulova Curv chronograph for more than 50% off but I noticed the difference in the engraving hence my concerns. Thanks a lot for clarifying this for me.
@@cooperg4605 sorry man I didn't see your comment until now. Hope you're enjoying your watch!
I have the same questions , someones said water resist , and videos said should be water resistant , i have 2 watches and both said resistant . I want to buy original one
I’ve yet to come across a Bulova review video where history wasn’t first discussed….and that’s why I like them!
Loved your review! Just got mine today after watching your video. Titanium on rubber strap with deployant clasp. Very well built and supremely comfortable on my 7.25" wrist. The diagonal striping and smoky color look fantastic!
Really glad you're enjoying it! It's a real talking point when others see it on your wrist. Thanks for the comment. Stay safe out there!
I have had the curve now for a little over two years it is my favorite watch… It fits like a dream more; comfortable than any of my other time pieces.
It really is an extremely comfortable watch. Wear it in health!
Thank you for review. Now I want this watch even more!
Hope you enjoy it when you get hold of it!
Awesome vid. My grandmother always recommended Bulova watches and I honor her memory by only buying Bulova. It’s amazing to know after all this time that the brand is still taking bold leaps and bounds in its effort to provide a unique style and consistent quality. I’ve always liked Bulova because their high end watches always look like they’re worth more than the retail price (and my Grandma had s-t-y-l-e so I trusted her fashion choices lol). I was confident in this choice, but your vid “pushed” me over the edge. Thanks!
Glad the video was useful for you!! Bulova are great - owned by Citizen too now, so you know you're getting a good quality watch that'll last many, many years, if not a lifetime if treated well. Enjoy it!!
probably the best quartz analogue watch ever made. Well done by Bulova for doing something new in a moribund market
Not been in the hobby long but I think this is a brilliant design.
1. Its original, which is saying a lot in the watch business , especially because its classy without being too busy yet still has plenty of interesting details which is a difficult balance.
2. The movement is groundbreaking, Grand Seiko level precision. Maybe they should have charged a ridiculous sum, then it might appeal to the snobs.
3 The curved design actually is a real improvement in structure. Watches have to fit on the organic human wrist which happens to not be flat. Simple perhaps but its a pretty big deal and original.
4. the Aesthetics match the above technology in that its sleek, modern with technical materials like titanium. The sapphire skeletal design adds more technical interest.
I love it and think its a bargain for what you get. Maybe, in time, I will become a jaded watch snob but for now ignorance is bliss.lol
Couldn't agree more. I'll revisit the watch soon with a better quality video and see how it has been keeping!
This is so true if it was priced at 5000 everyone in the world would know about it
Been eyeballing for months. My wife gave me gold and black tonight for Xmas, I am in love and beside myself. I love this watch. And it feels great
What a great present!! Enjoy it! Thanks for sharing. Merry Xmas!
I have an accutron and I bought it because of the story with omega and the moon. And I’ve been checking this particular watch for literally years but I never was completely sure if I should get it or not, but after watching your video I feel like I really need it jaja. Great review 👍🏼
I love the exhibition case back
Three days ago I've tried one on ant it fits really good and light. The one I tried has a Stainless Steel band painted black. I have my concerns about the paint peeling off from the band, but I guess you can always have a black sharpie around to fix it.
It looks and sounds like you enjoy it big time and that is great. I have my eye for this watch for quite a while and hope to get one of these at some point. I subscribed.
Thanks! I'll sub to your channel too
Definitely my next bulova! I own two precisionist and I luv em both!👌🏿😎👍🏾
Great review, new subscriber !! really like these !! on my radar for potential purchase !! Kindest Regards from the S.E. - Nick.
Just ordered one with a bracelet, can't wait to get it now
Great choice! Enjoy
I have this watch and do really like it for its comfort due to the curve and light weight. I find the rubber band to be a bit frustrating due to the snugness of the fit when trying to pass the end thru the buckle. Had I known there was a metal band available I would have likely gone that route. Great video tho.
Have seen the curve in local jewellers, the facia and curv is quite impressive. For me it's let down by a rubber strap, it would look better with a distressed leather suede strap. Jewellers in my home town goes for £699, nice review shame some idiots decided to comment fake.
It's a shame the guy on UA-cam put a video out with false information. Now lots of people are totally confused and misled. Thanks for watching!
Surprised to see an exhibition case back on a quartz watch...I love this watch, was looking at the blue version for myself!
Hi all! Quick question on the bracelet. Do You know if Bulova sells this bracelet as spare/replacement part?
I mean, obviously this is not a regular bracelet and I am afraid that, if the bracelet suffers some damage, I wont be able to get a replacement. Thanks!
Soon as I saw it I wanted it. Told my fiancé babe really like this watch little expensive should I get it. She said babe of course if you like it you work hard you deserve it go buy it now. So I took her wise decision and bought it. It really is a nice watch fits amazing.
Great choice! Enjoy it!
what do you think about this watch compares to bulova snorkel chrono? one thing i like about snorkel and lobster is that their bulova logo contains luminous paint.
The snorkel is a beautiful watch - it has 100m water resistance I believe? Whereas the curv has 30m which is disappointing. I think it comes down to whether you want an extremely stylish watch (curv) Vs a chrono with water resistance and an arguably better looking Bulova hand. It's a difficult decision. I'm not a huge Chrono fan. If the curv had water resistance it would be the only watch I need. I've probably confused you more... Let me know what you end up going with !
I'm seriously considering this exact 98A162 Curv watch. I'm somewhat concerned about the non-screw down crown though. I'm not looking to go deep sea diving or anything extreme, but I would need it to handle jumping in a swimming pool, ocean, shower and such. Do you think it it could manage these aquatic activities without sustaining water damage?
Shower, yes. Splashes of water yes. Rain, yes. But no to pool, ocean etc. It's a stunning watch and I've had many, many compliments on it. It's a real shame it's not a screw down crown but it's not a diver and not supposed to be a tool watch, it's more of a sophisticated dress watch... so I can understand why they didn't put one on. I personally think get one, but just take it off for pool or ocean activities. If you do wear in the shower, just be a little careful with steam getting inside, that can be dangerous to many watches. Thanks for checking out the video and commenting.
@@simonthewatchguy6073 Thanks for the reply. It's a cracking good looking watch and I still believe I might do it. I already have a few dedicated water watches so I think I could fit this one in as regular activity piece.
Hello! First of all, nice review!
I have a question I was hoping you could help me with, please: what's the natural state of the seconds hand? does it normally stay steady or does it do a seconds hand function regardless of pressing the bottom button?
I have the brown version and when I clic on the bottom button to rest the hand, if I don't click on the upper button to start the chronometer, I would assume the seconds hand should remain steady permanently unless I press on the bottom button again to perform it's seconds-measurement functionality. But it doesn't; instead, if the seconds hand is doing it's regular function and I press the bottom button to reset it and leave it like that, the seconds hand start moving to perform seconds-measurement functionality after a period of time without me pressing the bottom button to do it (it goes automatically to show the seconds again), is this behavior normal?
Thanks a lot in advanced!
Good question. That's normal behaviour. It assumes you don't want to use the chronometer and starts ticking again. The seconds hand ticks twice per second. When you finish using the chronograph, the seconds return back to exactly where they should be (they're still being counted in the background whilst you're timing something). Hope this helps!
@@simonthewatchguy6073 sweet, I though it was malfunctioning.! thanks a lot.!!!
Weird camera angle but good detailed review. Would you mind telling how much you paid for it?
Around the £500 mark. Thanks for watching!
What's the lug to lug measurement for this watch?
21 mm
Is it an integrated strap? Can you change them? There is a bracelet version.
They're integrated. You can buy a replacement from Bulova for around £80 ($100)
Hi simon why does some of the 98a162 watch strap locking mechanism is different?
I think Bulova released a few different versions of this watch, so it’s possible that there are some changes
Does the second hand make 'ticking sound' like other quartz watches? (I have OCD...)
Nope silent unlike Swatch watches!
@@simonthewatchguy6073 thanks for the reply! Now I gotta save up for this watch lol
Is it normal for watch reviews to not show the operation of the watch or functionality at all?
Hi! I got my husband the rose gold one for our wedding and we can't figure out how to get it on. Can you please help us? Thank you!
Hi Devora - what do you mean by you can't get it on? Is there a problem with the strap? Or the battery is flat?
It is great chronograph in low cost! I have is in the Russian!
How's that new McDonald's over there?
Anyone know where I can find replacement straps for this specific watch? I looked everywhere and couldn't find a site. I'd prefer to replace them myself if possible
Citizen customer service. You can’t do it yourself since the straps are only available from Bulova’s parent company.
@@simonthewatchguy6073 thank you for your help. I'll give that a try
half price at the moment in the UK H Samuel has them in stock, I was considering one until the issue regarding the stra was noticed, I've decided not to pull the trigger on one now....
Thanks for sharing!! Maybe someone will see this and go for it. I hear you on the strap 'issue'. It's one of those things - hardly any watch is built with the intention of lasting forever.
I bought one from H Samuel on that half price deal a few weeks back. It’s a lovely watch. I’m well happy with it.
Don't know if anybody still views this video. But I had my battery replaced. They put the case back on a 180 degrees in reverse. Now the top and bottom buttons don't work. Is that the cause????
It may be the cause. Best thing to do is take to a fully qualified watchmaker.
do you need to change this watches battery? or is it automatic?
Battery. I've had mine 2+ years and no battery change needed yet.
How do you use the 9oclock and 3 o'clock dials? I have the watch and still don't understand how to use it
It’s a chronograph. It counts hours, minutes and seconds. I’ve not got the watch anymore but from memory, press the button right button so the hand spins to 12. Then the top right button should be pressed to start the timer. The top left circle is hours, top right minutes, and bottom seconds. Press the top left button to stop the timer and finally the bottom right button to reset the timer. Press the bottom right button again to return the seconds to where they should be for normal time.
@@simonthewatchguy6073 I bought mine today, but im really struggling to set it correctly
@@simonthewatchguy6073 so would it be easier to set the watch at exactly 12pm/am?
Do these come in titanium?
This is titanium. Hope this helps.
I have a question , it is original ? Because i been investigation about this watch and i found someones has errors , spelling wrong , should said water resistant not water resist , do you know something about it ? Thanks . I am scare tu buy one that is not original
I’ve answered this many times on this comment section. This watch is 100% real. Bulova changed the lettering on the back and some idiot went on UA-cam thinking he had a fake and started the rumour. It’s just a baseless rumour. They’re all real.
Why anyone would think that a 30m watch would have a screw-down crown are nuts!
Hi dare I want know this watch need change the battery or not ?
Battery lasts around 2-3 years
Man i have a 6.1 inch wrist will it suit me
It might look a little bit big. If I was you i would try to wear it at an authorised dealer maybe. Or if you have to, get the measurements and try on a similar watch with those measurements.
The Bolívar was a personal watch it was never an official NASA watch like the Omega.
Yep that's right. But it was a backup watch that they got permission to take to space.
@@simonthewatchguy6073 correct, it was sold in 2015 or there abouts for over a million dollars if I remember correctly.
10 seconds a yesr..that's on par with grand seiko quartz movement
It is, but this is precisionist quartz by Bulova. 8x more accurate than a standard quartz
How to set the time? Can someone help me?
Just the same as any other Watch. Pull out the crown on the right hand side and twist it to set the time. Once you’re done, push it back in and that’s it
Confused about all the different variants of this line, i own the exact same watch but mine comes with a butterfly clasp
Jordi Crespo bulova do many watches with a butterfly clasp. In a way a clasp might be better because it’s probably less likely to degrade over time and the rubber is quite difficult to feed through the loop and get on.
Mine just arrived,with the butterfly clasp.I used my air miles to get it for free.You might consider this option if your able to do so.
Is the strap leather or rubber??
Rubber
@@simonthewatchguy6073 thanks
This watch uses a proprietary watchband and Bolova does not have any replacements. Kept that in mind, once the rubber strap cracks and wears out you won’t be able to replace it.
Bulova do have replacements at around $90. I have asked them and they do have spares. If you plan on keeping the watch long term, it may be a good idea to purchase a spare now.
SimonTheWatchGuy I called their parts department in NYC right before they closed the parts department .( covid 19 closure ) and I was told there are none available. I am concerned because I have three Curv watches, one uses a traditional band but the other two use proprietary bands. Who did you talk to and when did you talk to them?
@@posaune05 I spoken to the European Citizen customer service team (Citizen own Bulova) and they were happy to ship me one. That was approx 3 month ago.
SimonTheWatchGuy would you be so kind as to pass that info on to me. I was in contact with Bulova and they thought they had them for $132.50 but their parts department was in the process of moving to California. Anyway, don’t you think that $132.50 plus tax is a little bizarre for a rubber watchband?
Thanks Simon, I will have to try going through citizen this time. Do you have an email address for them?
The ridges dont actually touch the strap. It is only in contact with the wrist.
en español alguien q me conteste
Please ask your question, in Spanish. I will get my Spanish amigo to translate and write in Spanish to you
I like the curvature of that watch. The rest of it sucks! I’m sorry, I’m a watch seller, I know. Get Citizen Eco-Drive watches or any cheap watch that you can change the battery easily.
Please don't call it Bull Over It's Bull a va
Got my Curv today, with the deployant on crocodile leather.
I did fix the way I pronounce it after this video ;-) enjoy your watch!
I thought mine was uncomfortable, only a 7.5" wrist. Received as a gift. When I saw it was $400, I freaked out and told them it was too small.
Paying MSRP for this would be insane. What a eye sore!
fake
arabel joanidis it’s from the jewellers. It’s genuine. I don’t do fake watches.
sory i chek ,original.
my mistake
arabel joanidis no problem. Sorry I had another guy say that and it’s annoying because I never get a fake watch. Thanks!
excuse me but its a fake version...ULTRA HIGH FREQUENCY - WATER RESISTANT.....ITS FAKE
You've got no clue what you're talking about. It's absolutely genuine. Bulova changed the wording on the watch. It's obviously real and bought direct from a Jewellers
Please go to the video about the "fake" Bulova curves and view all the comments. You'll find the poster of the video was incorrect . They're genuine Bulova 100%
@@simonthewatchguy6073 i dont have a clue but you pay for it
@@BAKHIS what are you talking about? The watch is obviously genuine. Bulova confirmed it's real. Look at watchuseek forums. Look at the posts on the Curv video. You're reading incorrect information. Please come back and apologize when you're ready.
@@simonthewatchguy6073 I will apolagize for him.... Since he is a complete Grade A moron. An he never apolagized himself. So take my sorry for his if you will.....