No matter how deceitful or despicable or 'trashy' she may be, IMHO, YoSaffBridge is one of the most - 'fun' - returning characters in any series. Also, this return encounter with 'Saffron' proves Mal is NOT going to be duped by anyone more than once under any circumstances! (...and, I believe Inara took a special bit of joy in tricking the woman who offered to 'wash Mal's feet,' don't you?) I SO enjoy this episode!
She's also an EXCEPTIONALLY well-written sociopath (to use an admittedly outdated and stigmatizing term, I just can't think of a better broad rough term for the archetype her character captures). I love the layers we get from the details about her. She never says an "I am" about any true identity-type quality, just used a "my name is" early on, which is _very_ connotatively different. Her "Everybody plays each other. That's all anybody ever does. We play parts." combined with her later discussion of not knowing who or what she really is, in her truly naked moment ... It's just such insightful writing into the behaviors and confusion of people with fundamental deep personality disorder issues. Not all people with disorders end up being harmful to others, but YoSafBridge gives us an amazing window into (some possible) desperate and insecure processes of (some of) those who do. And Christina plays her _brilliantly._
The punch Mal gives Saffron at the end of Our Mrs Reynolds, is well timed with her hesitation. The moment he sees her hesitate to think about giving a name, his decision is made. Hence his follow up line that she would have only lied to him any how, because he caught that little hesitation and saw the gears in her mind a turnin'. Christina Hendricks did so well in this role I had hoped she would be a regularly appearing character. Too bad there was only one season, and by the time they did the movie I think she had gotten to big to be afforded even if they wrote her in.
They had a plan set BEFORE Mal let Saffron out of the box. No matter what she did, they were united against her. This is the strength of the Serenity family.
Really puts a whole different shine on Wash's "What's SHE doing on this ship?" scene, doesn't it? He does such a good act of being shocked to see her, that YoSaffBridge never even suspects that she's being played.
"... Mal stripped to his bare self..." And the first scene is Mal stripped to his bare self. Lol, that was hilarious! I had a good chuckle when she said that.
"Also, I can kill you with my Brain!" - River Best line in the episode. Possibly the series. What gives that line a factual basis is, it has been proven. She killed 3 of Niska's goons with three head shots with out looking. She killed them with Math.
Most of my friends are old friends, but my best and oldest? We lost touch for two years then one day we just happened to get on the same bus. We sat down next to each other and just casually resumed the exact conversation we’d last parted on. You are so right about just how valuable friendships like that are.
I have a friend like that, too. My "brother from another mother" as I call him. He, his partner and their two kids, are the only people not blood-related to me, that I'd unhesitatingly give my life to save.
I think a slightly different aspect on Wash's ultimate understanding of the relationship between Mal and Zoe is that he saw first-hand what a powerful leader Mal really is. I assume they all have some understanding of that, or they wouldn't be on the ship. But for him to really be in the forge (to use your metaphor) with Mal and see his strength, his resolve, and his incredible concern for his crew. I think Wash got to see "the real Mal" and understood why Zoe is so committed to him.
The story is that Mal being naked had a sock over his man parts with a picture of Joss Whedon on it. Hence the silly smirks on the crew's faces. The tattoo on his hip is another story.
In the previous episode, Mal punched Saffron at that moment because he asked her a question, and when he saw her conniving some way of using him, he punched her to stop it before it began.
I love the insights that you have on the character development and stroy arc of this series, and how much you enjoy the show (so far). As a professional writer, hopefully it's someone like you that gets involved in the rumored Firefly reboot...It woudl be a gorram shame if the quality of writing that made this series so great, dropped.
I'd nudge it down to #3 and squeeze in "little [insert a certain poetic bird here]" from the movie, because that nickname is just delightful ... But I agree, Cap'n Tight Pants is the best one 😆
I absolutely agree about Trash being a frothy, fun, episode. In yet another element of tragedy to Firefly's untimely cancellation, at this stage Badger, YoSaffBridge, Niska, and Dobson (yes, shot in the ear and tossed to the ground in the pilot episode - Dobson) were all slated to be returning guests, which is why we don't see the true demise of any of these villains so early in the (assumed 5/6 season) show. Great to watch this with you, and I'll see you in the next one.
I have posted often, that, this being the intended first season of several, any of the guest stars who wasn't dead could have been a recurring character. If this week we go back to Persephony- Badger, Atherton and Sir Warrick live just over the hill. We could easily run into any of them, or not. Joss was too good , too experienced, a producer to close out the option of bringing back any guest who turned out to be popular.
I do like the differences in reaction with Kaylee and Mal from Out of Gas and this episode. First time they meet, Serenity can't leave the ground and Mal finds Bester and Kaylee in the buff in the engine room and she has no bashfulness while Mal is quick to avert his eyes until she is dressed. In this episode, it is Zoe and Wash who can't look him in the eye while he is not bashful in the full monty and Kaylee takes the view in stride. Even Inara had a reaction. I feel that if you did a personality trait Venn diagram with Inara, Zoe,and River, you would find the overlap to be Kaylee.
By this point in the production Nathan and Jewell had gotten to pranking each other and trying to make each other laugh while delivering dialog. When Mal walks back onto the ship in the end, Nathan had to wear a sock sort of thing during filming. He had attached a cutout photo of Jewell's face on the end of the sock for this shot so so surprise the awkward looks.
You can tell good friends from fake friends, by seeing who shows up when you need help moving. But the real measure of friendship is to see who shows up when you need help moving bodies.
I can't speak to why Inara was still decked out... unless it was to protect her from the harsh desert sun, but when she "left in a huff" earlier she was pretending to go "work" so she'd be dressed up. (If she took her shuttle she'd have all her outfits though...)
I have 2 “no matter what” friends, one is my best friend from college, and the other has literally been my best friend since the day I was born. My mom had me at home, and her mom was assisting, so she was seriously in the next room when I was born. We joke that we’re best friends because we honestly don’t know how not to be.
Was hoping to see the reaction to "Saffron" showing up again. Nobody could portray her as well as Christina. River did have a lot of talents that the Alliance tapped into hoping to weaponize her. Really can't expand on that without giving spoilers before Serenity.
I agree, I like the Safron episodes. However if there is a re-boot of the series, I would think Safron could be played by Molly C Quinn quite well... This would also be a situation of 7 degrees of Nathan Fillion, as Molly was a regular cast member on "Castle" and has been a guest on "The Rookie"...
@@Sillydogification I wholeheartedly agree. However, if they manage to get Nathan Fillion back as Mal, and then have Molly Quinn as Saffron, it would be weird. Jeff Daniels and Anna Paquin played father and daughter in Fly Away Home, but then played romantically involved characters in The Squid and The Whale. Anna reported that she felt weird with the new dynamic, even though she was not actually related to Jeff, and they were now both nine years older. This weirdness could easily map onto the Nathan-Molly dynamic, alienating Castle fans and damaging the Nu-Firefly popularity.
@@isaackellogg3493 No. Nathan is pushing 50, Adam Baldwin is 60... Ron Glass is unavailable... So no, the original crew shouldnt be back - at least not in their original roles - I am sure they could be back in guest/recurring parts. But if you're going to reboot, recast.
The glamour that Inara displays in the end is a contrast, rubbing Saffron's face in the fact that she will never be her equal. Saffron is covered in dirt and grime, the true embodiment of "Trash", per the title.
@@jonathanmartin8716 My bad: "Objects in Space" was aired in the original run, but not "Heart of Gold". The original aired order was: 1. Train Job. 2. Bushwhacked. 3. Our Mrs Reynolds. 4. Jaynestown. 5. Out of Gas. 6. Shindig. 7. Safe. 8. Ariel. 9. War Stories. 10. Objects in Space. 11. Serenity (yep, the pilot...)
@@dominicbuckley8309 gotcha, I only know the order they were released in for the DVD. I actually watched the movie Serenity first 😜 I know that's not the way to view it now, but I follow pretty well what was going on and had a great appreciation for the series still.
My favorite thing about this episode is the vibe check Mal and Duran (Durham? Dirham? I just realized I've never remembered this spelling lol) have during their brief interaction. Both are aware that circumstances in life are complex, and both can readily sense that the other is a decent guy regardless of whatever's happening right now (love how immediately Mal can't help but defend his decency around a new acquaintance he's robbing lol), and both are very astutely aware that they're dealing with an absolutely INSANE woman, one whom they need to handle very carefully. They just have such phenomenal palpable bro chemistry in that whole scene. It's amazing 😂 I have a personal headcanon that the reason Mal doesn't get chased down by Feds later (after all, we can be sure YoSafBridge spilled all about the crew) is because Duran, upon handing her to the cops, told them she was alone and to disregard anything else she says, as an honorable move to watch a bro's back thanks to the common-enemy effect. 😝
I have tremendous respect for Dwier Brown, the actor who played Haymer. He also played Ray's father in Field of Dreams, the Kevin Costner baseball movie. Haymer may be the genocidal creep that YoSaffBrig says he is, but he has a moment of unguarded vulnerability, which makes us like him. Of course, it's a short moment- he hits the Panic Button seconds later, which proves he's still very smart...
@@larrystuder8543 Love this! Yeah I believe YoSafBridge when she says she hadn't lied about the guy's actions during the war, but I really get the feeling that he's trying to live a decent kind life now, and Mal is of course someone who can grant people the opportunity to grow/to have grown. It's amazing how much we can get from the character just in the actor's tiny bit of screen time. I see why you praise his acting so highly.
I just have to say, when I watch reaction videos I need good reaction. That can be emotional expression, it can be thoughtful evaluation, good body language. You do well on all fronts but your face and your facial emotions are just the best. When I say I like the cut of your jib I have never said it with more conviction.
Everyone has trust issues to some degree, whether they admit it or not. Most of mine stem from chocolate chip cookies that looked like oatmeal raisin.. 😉✌️
YoSaffBridge! I still think Inara was acting on her own and knew that despite everyone knowing YoSaff Bridge couldn't be trusted, she was going to get the getter of them anyway. Apparently all Nathan was wearing during that last scene was a I picture of Joss Whedon. Love Yo's last line. "You can't leave me here. I have a condition."
Personally, I think Mal and the entire crew planned the broad outlines of how to handle her, before he even let her out of the crate. They were playing her the whole time.
@@Garryck-1 Yeah, it's pretty clear especially on rewatching. I mean Inara straight up says it, and she would happily take credit for out duping her on her own watching Mal fall for it. But then we get the fact that Mal was not the least bit surprised when Inara showed up, confirming he was in on it, along with the conversation among the rest of the crew verifying that everything went according to plan. And on rewatch, we see Kaylee cracking up, when she shouldn't have, refered to by Inara as some of the crew weren't as convincing as she hoped. On reflection we can realize that Kaylee was cracking up because she was in on the scheming and doesn't have a good poker face.
@@Logan_Baron - All good points. Also, Inara storms off away from the ship before the whole plan is decided on. So unless there was a scheme in place, how would she have known where the collection point was going to be?
@@Garryck-1 Impossible. You can't make a back up plan until you know what the actual plan is. They had no idea what she wanted to do or where she wanted to it. As such, you can't make a back up plan tmuntil you get the actual plan Then there was the surprise when Wash and Kailey figured out she sabotaged the ship again. They didn't see that coming which would thrown off their plans. All Inara needed to know was where the trash was being rerouted. Mal wasn't worried about being found as he was either near the trash location or would easily be found by checking the log on the shuttle.
@@Logan_Baron Kaikey was laughing as she was looking at a picture of Joss Whedon's face taped over Nathan's crotch. I believe Inara thinks it would bruise YoSafBridges ego more to be told she never duped anyone, when she (correctly) believed she duped everyone. If this was the plan, why would Inara be surprised he thought it went well?
When he hit her it occurred to me she was clenching her jaw, ready for a blow. He asked her for her real name and as she opens her mouth to respond he socked her. Maybe he asked specifically to get her to not clench to make sure when he hit her she was knocked out and not just hurt.
I say it doesn't matter. I don't know why Anna has such an issue with it. She was going to kill him, all of his friends(his family). Not to mention destroy Serenity.... I'd punch a bitch too!!!
@@sebastianwittmeier1274 - That was it.. you could see she was trying to read Mal, wondering what name might push the right button on him... so he really had no choice if he wanted her to stop trying to manipulate him.
I binge watched all of your reactions last night, and enjoyed it. I can hardly wait for the next one. I will be watching more of your reactions. One thing though, River had just stabbed Jayne shortly before he turned her in, he may have been a bit miffed and reacted to that.
Anna, FINALLY someone (reactor wise) sees this correctly ... Inara and even the entire crew planned this whole ruse from the moment Mal and Inara had their heated conversation. I believe it was then, that Mal filled Inara in on what the crew was planning, and part of that plan, was for Inara to storm off in a huff. It made YoSafBridge drop her guard and forget about her as potential issue. You ARE a clever one 😉!!!
I just opened this on my phone even though I was watching it on a TV, so that I could screenshot the nifty neckline of your shirt for a seamstress buddy of mine to enjoy -- and I couldn't help but notice while taking the screenshots that you just plain look particularly extra lovely in this video, on top of the unique top! Had to say so! 😁💚 Thanks for another delightful reaction 😊
Anna, we *will* find out what the Alliance was doing to River. Not quite yet, though. You have to remember that Jayne isn't real bright. I think in 'Ariel' he arrived at the *brilliant* conclusion that he could help Serenity (Mal) and make bank at the same time. In a sense, it was a win-win decision. Yeah, right. Jayne needs to learn to leave the thinking to Mal. But his heart was in the right place. Kinda.
@@marconatrix Yeah, I don't think they ever considered her to become a main character. A recurring character like Badger. Or if the show got enough seasons, she'd be more akin to Autolycus on Xena. Bring her in for the right type of mission.
In "Our Mrs. Reynolds", Mal didn't want to kill Saffron, or leave her tied up. That would be cruel. There were no authorities to take her. She was too dangerous for Mal to turn his back on her. When he asked her for her real name, he could see she was scheming to come up with a best advantage situation, so it was the right time to just knock her out and take his shuttle back. In this episode "Trash", Inara rubs it in to Saffron that some of the crew's performances might have given away their plan had Saffron been more observant. If we go back to the scene when Wash yells "What's she doing on this ship?" we can see Kaylee giggling which does pretty much give it away that Kaylee somehow knew already.
After watching the last episode of Firefly and before moving on to Serenity, you need to watch the River Tam Files. It's a series of videos that show snapshots of what was done to River at the Academy and were released ahead of the movie Serenity as promos.
They're soulmates, or to put it a better way, kindred souls, Zoe is more like a female version of Mal than a viable love interest for him. I like that a range of relationships can be depicted.Though Wash was right last episode that she needed to be honest with him. She can act in synch with the Captain but still be open about her thoughts and feelings. He was wrong about the jealousy and obviously venting pent up aggression but it wouldn't have been an issue if Zoe had thought to shoot straight with Wash. I know it's a small thing, but small acts of thoughtfulness add up.
Love your reactions and commentary... half of the reactors out there, I actually end up skipping through their analysis and random chat, but you're perceptive, smart, and funny. Not trying to be a stan, just wanting to give you that positive feedback, I'm a liker/commenter/subscriber now for your algorithm; looking forward to the rest of the series and checking out your other shows. Also: it's okay to not like Jayne. I like him but I too wouldn't trust him as far as I can throw him (which wouldn't be very far, if Book's comments are to be believed)
What was interesting is that Mal had sneaked YoSaffBridge aboard without yet buying into her plan. Surely he couldn't have kept her in the crate for long. Zoey owed YoSaffBridge a sucker punch for YoSaffBridge having hurt her baby Wash.
The sucker punch was just so she wouldn't follow him. He was really just going to get his shuttle back but hoped to get an answer or two. so yeah he left her there :P
Every punch YoSaffBridge is well deserved. She is such an interesting character. I have no doubt if there was a Season 2, she would have popped up again. Probably in competition with Mal and crew over another caper.
Mal punched her because he could see she was cooking up another lie. He asked for her real name. But she hesitated and looked away. He saw her trying to read him, figure out what would be the perfect woman's name he'd feel a connection to. In other words, she was about to try and manipulate him, *yet again.* And so, right then and there, she *earned* that punch. Knocking her out was pretty much the only way he could prevent her trying to twist him around her little finger. After which, he says "You'd have only lied anyway..."
You should watch the clips that were cut from the earlier shows. Especially the one in which ZOE talks to Simon about the battle Serenity is named for...
yep. there's a lot of great stuff in the outtakes, bloopers and deleted scenes. Much of the deleted stuff got cut for time, not because there was anything wrong with it. .
Great reaction. Christina was incredible as usual. I don't believe everyone should like any character. We all have our likes and dislikes. I love every member of the crew even Jayne. I also love Badger and Saffron, so where does that put me. I believe Jayne had the potential for an interesting arc, if the show continued.
I think Mal hit her at the end of Our Mrs Reynolds because he didnt trust turning his back on her. He had to knock her out in order to get back to the shuttle. Mal doesnt deal in poisons, He wouldn't have shot her if she wasn't armed(and ain't fool enough to arm her.
A couple of things.....First Inara's dress. How a companion dresses is part of their identity. They ALWAYS look good. It adds to their mystique. Instead of them being thought of as "dirty" because they are prostitutes, they are seen as refined and classy. A status symbol. They are charming, seductive, and educated. Second thing....just for reference, these are humans(mostly american and Chinese) that LEFT earth(probably because it became uninhabitable) they colonized a star CLUSTER. Multiple stars in close proximity. "Dozens of planets and hundreds of moons." The "core" planets are the rich and industrialized alliance worlds, while the planets and moons outside of that area are more "wild west."
Anna, "Trust is a big theme is show." Yes it is. Jayne and Simon have come full circle now. From the beginning Jayne didn't consider Simon part of the "crew." And ultimately that fact has driven Jayne to betray Simon and River to the Alliance. It has taken Jayne to being 10 seconds away from Mal flushing him out of the air lock. And now it has taken Jayne to where he is helpless and at the mercy of Simon. Simon has every reason to kill Jayne right here and right now. Jayne's betrayal almost made meaningless all of Simon's sacrifices and struggles to keep River safe. But for Jayne's plan on Ariel falling apart, Simon would be dead or in prison and River would once again be suffering torturous experiments at the hands of the Alliance. Simon could murder Jayne right on that table and not Mal nor anyone else on the crew with the possible exception of Shepard would not believe him justified. Jayne and Saffron have a lot in common. They have a similar moral code and neither are trustworthy. And once again Saffron's plans are undone because she is alone while Mal has a crew that trust one another, except for Jayne. Now Jayne lies helpless and in mortal jeopardy. When he calls out for help from the _crew_ there is nobody there. Like Saffron, Jayne is alone and undone. But Jayne is not alone for despite what Jayne believes, Simon and River have become part of the _crew._ Simon recognizes this despite what Jayne has done. And if they can't trust each other then as Simon says, "I don't see this working any other way." So, Simon forgives Jayne. And in doing so he provides Jayne a path to redemption. So, yes. Trust is a big theme in this show. And Simon and Jayne have come full circle. The question now is, will Jayne take the lesson to heart? It is my belief that in later seasons, Simon and Jayne would become best friends. They would be like the _Odd Couple._ Or better yet, River would fall in love with Jayne to the chagrin of Simon. Sadly we will never know.
@@StevesFunhouse Mal has Inara, Wash has Zoe, Simon has Kaylee and River has Jayne. It has a certain symmetry to it. Besides River could be the perfect match for Jayne. Something tells me she could keep him on the straight and narrow.
@@robertanderson6929 ... and on that note, everyone just gave a black stare ... and then, turned and walked away. There is symmetry in hand cuffs ... but I don't see anyone lining up, wanting to to be fitted. The only symmetry you see is a man and a woman. However, they are completely different from each other and definitely aren't compatible. They wouldn't be good for each other at all. Jayne is a womanizer and River is ... well, River is a mess ... peculiar at times, and the rest of the time, a complete mess and unable to have a normal relationship with anyone . Her brain has been worked on ... fiddled with, and she will likely NEVER be totally okay and, oh yeah ... she HAS cut Jayne before, or did you forget that ??? Whatever dream world you thought that up in, just let it go, cause that was a nightmare you were having. I actually like Jayne ... a LOT, but I would NOT pair him up with River in any way, shape or form, or at any time. Whatever "something" it was that told you that River could keep Jayne on the straight and narrow, is sadistic. That would actually be a match made in Hell. Edit: I was the culmination of a situation where, being a roadie, the band picked up a number of girls, and let's just say, if the last "untaken" girl wasn't going home with someone, the band wasn't going home with someone. So, I took a hit for the team, and that was the worst date I've ever had. It was disgusting, and I will never forget it. Don't do it !!!
regarding this wonderfully silly assertion about a 'Jayne & River' connection... is truly silly to almost everyone of the FF fans... BUT, as it turns out... the two were connected! years later, only as Colonial John Casey and "Greta" (an alias).... and they had much the same father-figure-always-teasing-daughter relationship on the series; Chuck, that they had on set of FF. It was said that the entire cast of FF had relentlessly teased Summer Glau during shooting on FF, but none more than Adam Baldwin, and Adam lovingly returned to the same habit when Summer guest starred on Chuck! So the two did have a connection... of sorts!
You really MUST watch the film Serenity after the TV episodes. Think of it as 3 or more episodes all wrapped in one towel. There is a major Easter egg in the film. Can't talk about it until you watch the film. See.... nothing like extra incentive. Right?? This was definitely a funny one.
I have a very good friend. Recently I had a dream, thought it only right to tell her. She sent me pics and one heck of a video. That is how you friend.
It’s a great review series. Perhaps review Band of Brothers at your next convenience to further the experience with war buddies. Thanks for your efforts.
Perfectly consistent. When two people react like that to each other's presence, you KNOW they've interacted before. Names don't come into it. And had he told YoSaffBridge about his friend Mal's namel, then she wouldn't have been taken by surprise, would she? She'd have been ready for the encounter, to make sure she had the upper hand.
He pondered that they must have met. Mal confirmed that they had. Yosafbridge said he was lying. Calling him Mal, confirmed that they had and that Mal was not lying and that she was. His first thought was right, proven right and she was proven unable to support her lie. A more current example: "You called * * a traitor didn't you" "I never said that" "Let's go to exibit A" "Oh wait now I remember" Catching her in a lie, was not inconsistent with the accusing attorney's statement by preventing her from lying.
I've been a fan of The show since it aired, and still don't particularly like Jayne. I mean, he's a good character for the show, and definitely fits a specific place on the crew, but he's just not a likable human being. Just sayin. ✌️
"Well, who in the damn galaxy ain't?!" is still one of my favorite lines from the series 😂
No matter how deceitful or despicable or 'trashy' she may be, IMHO, YoSaffBridge is one of the most - 'fun' - returning characters in any series. Also, this return encounter with 'Saffron' proves Mal is NOT going to be duped by anyone more than once under any circumstances! (...and, I believe Inara took a special bit of joy in tricking the woman who offered to 'wash Mal's feet,' don't you?) I SO enjoy this episode!
She's also an EXCEPTIONALLY well-written sociopath (to use an admittedly outdated and stigmatizing term, I just can't think of a better broad rough term for the archetype her character captures). I love the layers we get from the details about her. She never says an "I am" about any true identity-type quality, just used a "my name is" early on, which is _very_ connotatively different. Her "Everybody plays each other. That's all anybody ever does. We play parts." combined with her later discussion of not knowing who or what she really is, in her truly naked moment ... It's just such insightful writing into the behaviors and confusion of people with fundamental deep personality disorder issues. Not all people with disorders end up being harmful to others, but YoSafBridge gives us an amazing window into (some possible) desperate and insecure processes of (some of) those who do. And Christina plays her _brilliantly._
@@ItsAsparageese - brilliant, extremely insightful, well put!
@@TerryYelmene Aww thanks lol, that's high praise! Just had to springboard off your likewise great comment :)
@@ItsAsparageese I have to agree with Terry, that was an incredibly insightful, respectful, and well-said observation
@@ediblemongoose Sheesh haha thanks, I appreciate that a lot!
The punch Mal gives Saffron at the end of Our Mrs Reynolds, is well timed with her hesitation. The moment he sees her hesitate to think about giving a name, his decision is made. Hence his follow up line that she would have only lied to him any how, because he caught that little hesitation and saw the gears in her mind a turnin'. Christina Hendricks did so well in this role I had hoped she would be a regularly appearing character. Too bad there was only one season, and by the time they did the movie I think she had gotten to big to be afforded even if they wrote her in.
“Well, I appreciate your honesty. Not, you know, a lot.”
Saffron: you can’t leave me in this lifeless rock, I’ll die.
Anna: 🤷♀️
Me: 😂🤣😝
"We saw Mal get stripped to his bare self." Cue the intro to Trash.
Heh.. nice one! 😎
Right?!? I multitasked a moment during the intro and did a double take at that part, thinking "Wait, she's talking about Trash already?" lol!
@@ItsAsparageese just for a moment there, I asked myself, " Hold it! Did River grow up into Anna? She's seeing the future..."
@@larrystuder8543 I can kinda see a resemblance, even! They could def be sisters
They had a plan set BEFORE Mal let Saffron out of the box. No matter what she did, they were united against her.
This is the strength of the Serenity family.
Really puts a whole different shine on Wash's "What's SHE doing on this ship?" scene, doesn't it? He does such a good act of being shocked to see her, that YoSaffBridge never even suspects that she's being played.
"... Mal stripped to his bare self..." And the first scene is Mal stripped to his bare self. Lol, that was hilarious! I had a good chuckle when she said that.
"Also, I can kill you with my Brain!" - River
Best line in the episode. Possibly the series.
What gives that line a factual basis is, it has been proven.
She killed 3 of Niska's goons with three head shots with out looking.
She killed them with Math.
Most of my friends are old friends, but my best and oldest? We lost touch for two years then one day we just happened to get on the same bus. We sat down next to each other and just casually resumed the exact conversation we’d last parted on. You are so right about just how valuable friendships like that are.
I have a friend like that, too. My "brother from another mother" as I call him. He, his partner and their two kids, are the only people not blood-related to me, that I'd unhesitatingly give my life to save.
I love how you call all the characters (when they start getting themselves into trouble)... pumkin 😄
Its so cute! 😄
I think a slightly different aspect on Wash's ultimate understanding of the relationship between Mal and Zoe is that he saw first-hand what a powerful leader Mal really is. I assume they all have some understanding of that, or they wouldn't be on the ship. But for him to really be in the forge (to use your metaphor) with Mal and see his strength, his resolve, and his incredible concern for his crew. I think Wash got to see "the real Mal" and understood why Zoe is so committed to him.
The story is that Mal being naked had a sock over his man parts with a picture of Joss Whedon on it. Hence the silly smirks on the crew's faces. The tattoo on his hip is another story.
Was "man-arts" a typo, or was that a pun referring to the picture of Joss he was wearing?
@@Mr.Ekshin typo
In the previous episode, Mal punched Saffron at that moment because he asked her a question, and when he saw her conniving some way of using him, he punched her to stop it before it began.
I love the insights that you have on the character development and stroy arc of this series, and how much you enjoy the show (so far).
As a professional writer, hopefully it's someone like you that gets involved in the rumored Firefly reboot...It woudl be a gorram shame if the quality of writing that made this series so great, dropped.
I think Yo-Saf-Bridg comes in at #2 for best nicknames in this series. After Cpt. Tight pants, but before Big Damn Heros. 😁
I'd nudge it down to #3 and squeeze in "little [insert a certain poetic bird here]" from the movie, because that nickname is just delightful ... But I agree, Cap'n Tight Pants is the best one 😆
I love how Inara casually "shot" Yo-Saff-Bridge with the Lassiter. Safety off, pull the trigger...she even flinched in anticipation.
I absolutely agree about Trash being a frothy, fun, episode. In yet another element of tragedy to Firefly's untimely cancellation, at this stage Badger, YoSaffBridge, Niska, and Dobson (yes, shot in the ear and tossed to the ground in the pilot episode - Dobson) were all slated to be returning guests, which is why we don't see the true demise of any of these villains so early in the (assumed 5/6 season) show.
Great to watch this with you, and I'll see you in the next one.
I have posted often, that, this being the intended first season of several, any of the guest stars who wasn't dead could have been a recurring character. If this week we go back to Persephony- Badger, Atherton and Sir Warrick live just over the hill. We could easily run into any of them, or not. Joss was too good , too experienced, a producer to close out the option of bringing back any guest who turned out to be popular.
I do like the differences in reaction with Kaylee and Mal from Out of Gas and this episode.
First time they meet, Serenity can't leave the ground and Mal finds Bester and Kaylee in the buff in the engine room and she has no bashfulness while Mal is quick to avert his eyes until she is dressed. In this episode, it is Zoe and Wash who can't look him in the eye while he is not bashful in the full monty and Kaylee takes the view in stride. Even Inara had a reaction.
I feel that if you did a personality trait Venn diagram with Inara, Zoe,and River, you would find the overlap to be Kaylee.
By this point in the production Nathan and Jewell had gotten to pranking each other and trying to make each other laugh while delivering dialog. When Mal walks back onto the ship in the end, Nathan had to wear a sock sort of thing during filming. He had attached a cutout photo of Jewell's face on the end of the sock for this shot so so surprise the awkward looks.
I don't think that Mal took her anywhere after he smacked her. I think the only reason he tracked her down was to get the second shuttle back.
Once again, a great reaction by a great host! We feel at home in your channel! Thank you!
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But the real measure of friendship is to see who shows up when you need help moving bodies.
I can't speak to why Inara was still decked out... unless it was to protect her from the harsh desert sun, but when she "left in a huff" earlier she was pretending to go "work" so she'd be dressed up. (If she took her shuttle she'd have all her outfits though...)
I have 2 “no matter what” friends, one is my best friend from college, and the other has literally been my best friend since the day I was born. My mom had me at home, and her mom was assisting, so she was seriously in the next room when I was born. We joke that we’re best friends because we honestly don’t know how not to be.
Was hoping to see the reaction to "Saffron" showing up again. Nobody could portray her as well as Christina. River did have a lot of talents that the Alliance tapped into hoping to weaponize her. Really can't expand on that without giving spoilers before Serenity.
The video cut off hers and Inara's interaction, I love the part when the containers closing and she shouts out, "I have a condition!" 🤣
I agree, I like the Safron episodes. However if there is a re-boot of the series, I would think Safron could be played by Molly C Quinn quite well... This would also be a situation of 7 degrees of Nathan Fillion, as Molly was a regular cast member on "Castle" and has been a guest on "The Rookie"...
@@Sillydogification I wholeheartedly agree. However, if they manage to get Nathan Fillion back as Mal, and then have Molly Quinn as Saffron, it would be weird. Jeff Daniels and Anna Paquin played father and daughter in Fly Away Home, but then played romantically involved characters in The Squid and The Whale. Anna reported that she felt weird with the new dynamic, even though she was not actually related to Jeff, and they were now both nine years older. This weirdness could easily map onto the Nathan-Molly dynamic, alienating Castle fans and damaging the Nu-Firefly popularity.
@@isaackellogg3493 I agree with that. Just icky. Molly Q and Nathan could do it, but it would not set right in the audience' heads.
@@isaackellogg3493 No. Nathan is pushing 50, Adam Baldwin is 60... Ron Glass is unavailable... So no, the original crew shouldnt be back - at least not in their original roles - I am sure they could be back in guest/recurring parts. But if you're going to reboot, recast.
Jayne's character growth is there. Between Jaynestown and his wish to not look bad after Ariel shows that there was growth.
The glamour that Inara displays in the end is a contrast, rubbing Saffron's face in the fact that she will never be her equal. Saffron is covered in dirt and grime, the true embodiment of "Trash", per the title.
The last 3 episodes, "Trash", "The Message" and "Objects in Space" were not aired in the original run.
What about Heart of Gold? That ones my favorite.
@@jonathanmartin8716 My bad: "Objects in Space" was aired in the original run, but not "Heart of Gold".
The original aired order was:
1. Train Job.
2. Bushwhacked.
3. Our Mrs Reynolds.
4. Jaynestown.
5. Out of Gas.
6. Shindig.
7. Safe.
8. Ariel.
9. War Stories.
10. Objects in Space.
11. Serenity (yep, the pilot...)
@@dominicbuckley8309 gotcha, I only know the order they were released in for the DVD. I actually watched the movie Serenity first 😜 I know that's not the way to view it now, but I follow pretty well what was going on and had a great appreciation for the series still.
missing out on ANY of these final episodes would be a tragedy... they're easily some of the best in my opinion.
My favorite thing about this episode is the vibe check Mal and Duran (Durham? Dirham? I just realized I've never remembered this spelling lol) have during their brief interaction. Both are aware that circumstances in life are complex, and both can readily sense that the other is a decent guy regardless of whatever's happening right now (love how immediately Mal can't help but defend his decency around a new acquaintance he's robbing lol), and both are very astutely aware that they're dealing with an absolutely INSANE woman, one whom they need to handle very carefully. They just have such phenomenal palpable bro chemistry in that whole scene. It's amazing 😂
I have a personal headcanon that the reason Mal doesn't get chased down by Feds later (after all, we can be sure YoSafBridge spilled all about the crew) is because Duran, upon handing her to the cops, told them she was alone and to disregard anything else she says, as an honorable move to watch a bro's back thanks to the common-enemy effect. 😝
I have tremendous respect for Dwier Brown, the actor who played Haymer. He also played Ray's father in Field of Dreams, the Kevin Costner baseball movie. Haymer may be the genocidal creep that YoSaffBrig says he is, but he has a moment of unguarded vulnerability, which makes us like him. Of course, it's a short moment- he hits the Panic Button seconds later, which proves he's still very smart...
@@larrystuder8543 Love this! Yeah I believe YoSafBridge when she says she hadn't lied about the guy's actions during the war, but I really get the feeling that he's trying to live a decent kind life now, and Mal is of course someone who can grant people the opportunity to grow/to have grown. It's amazing how much we can get from the character just in the actor's tiny bit of screen time. I see why you praise his acting so highly.
If we ever got a Firefly reboot I'd want it to be a spinoff following Monty and his crew.
I just have to say, when I watch reaction videos I need good reaction. That can be emotional expression, it can be thoughtful evaluation, good body language. You do well on all fronts but your face and your facial emotions are just the best. When I say I like the cut of your jib I have never said it with more conviction.
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Good snags on no security updates and the guy walking in the shot with the shuttle taking off.
Everyone has trust issues to some degree, whether they admit it or not. Most of mine stem from chocolate chip cookies that looked like oatmeal raisin..
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I still think Inara was acting on her own and knew that despite everyone knowing YoSaff Bridge couldn't be trusted, she was going to get the getter of them anyway.
Apparently all Nathan was wearing during that last scene was a I picture of Joss Whedon.
Love Yo's last line. "You can't leave me here. I have a condition."
Personally, I think Mal and the entire crew planned the broad outlines of how to handle her, before he even let her out of the crate. They were playing her the whole time.
@@Garryck-1 Yeah, it's pretty clear especially on rewatching. I mean Inara straight up says it, and she would happily take credit for out duping her on her own watching Mal fall for it. But then we get the fact that Mal was not the least bit surprised when Inara showed up, confirming he was in on it, along with the conversation among the rest of the crew verifying that everything went according to plan. And on rewatch, we see Kaylee cracking up, when she shouldn't have, refered to by Inara as some of the crew weren't as convincing as she hoped. On reflection we can realize that Kaylee was cracking up because she was in on the scheming and doesn't have a good poker face.
@@Logan_Baron - All good points. Also, Inara storms off away from the ship before the whole plan is decided on. So unless there was a scheme in place, how would she have known where the collection point was going to be?
@@Garryck-1 Impossible. You can't make a back up plan until you know what the actual plan is. They had no idea what she wanted to do or where she wanted to it. As such, you can't make a back up plan tmuntil you get the actual plan
Then there was the surprise when Wash and Kailey figured out she sabotaged the ship again. They didn't see that coming which would thrown off their plans. All Inara needed to know was where the trash was being rerouted.
Mal wasn't worried about being found as he was either near the trash location or would easily be found by checking the log on the shuttle.
@@Logan_Baron Kaikey was laughing as she was looking at a picture of Joss Whedon's face taped over Nathan's crotch.
I believe Inara thinks it would bruise YoSafBridges ego more to be told she never duped anyone, when she (correctly) believed she duped everyone. If this was the plan, why would Inara be surprised he thought it went well?
When he hit her it occurred to me she was clenching her jaw, ready for a blow. He asked her for her real name and as she opens her mouth to respond he socked her. Maybe he asked specifically to get her to not clench to make sure when he hit her she was knocked out and not just hurt.
Or she hesitated too long, inventing a lie
I say it doesn't matter. I don't know why Anna has such an issue with it. She was going to kill him, all of his friends(his family). Not to mention destroy Serenity....
I'd punch a bitch too!!!
@@sebastianwittmeier1274 - That was it.. you could see she was trying to read Mal, wondering what name might push the right button on him... so he really had no choice if he wanted her to stop trying to manipulate him.
I binge watched all of your reactions last night, and enjoyed it. I can hardly wait for the next one. I will be watching more of your reactions.
One thing though, River had just stabbed Jayne shortly before he turned her in, he may have been a bit miffed and reacted to that.
“You got a bit stabbed the other day; that’s bound to make anyone a mite ornery.”
Anna, FINALLY someone (reactor wise) sees this correctly ... Inara and even the entire crew planned this whole ruse from the moment Mal and Inara had their heated conversation. I believe it was then, that Mal filled Inara in on what the crew was planning, and part of that plan, was for Inara to storm off in a huff. It made YoSafBridge drop her guard and forget about her as potential issue. You ARE a clever one 😉!!!
I just opened this on my phone even though I was watching it on a TV, so that I could screenshot the nifty neckline of your shirt for a seamstress buddy of mine to enjoy -- and I couldn't help but notice while taking the screenshots that you just plain look particularly extra lovely in this video, on top of the unique top! Had to say so! 😁💚 Thanks for another delightful reaction 😊
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Anna, we *will* find out what the Alliance was doing to River. Not quite yet, though.
You have to remember that Jayne isn't real bright. I think in 'Ariel' he arrived at the *brilliant* conclusion that he could help Serenity (Mal) and make bank at the same time. In a sense, it was a win-win decision. Yeah, right. Jayne needs to learn to leave the thinking to Mal. But his heart was in the right place. Kinda.
I really feel like they were setting Saffron up to be a main character at some point. Too bad we never got to see how that would turn out.
More of a recurring theme ... but as always, such a pity this ace show didn't get a fuller run ...
@@marconatrix Yeah, I don't think they ever considered her to become a main character. A recurring character like Badger. Or if the show got enough seasons, she'd be more akin to Autolycus on Xena. Bring her in for the right type of mission.
so many pumpkins...you must be a fan of the Smashing Pumpkins! 😁
In "Our Mrs. Reynolds", Mal didn't want to kill Saffron, or leave her tied up. That would be cruel. There were no authorities to take her. She was too dangerous for Mal to turn his back on her. When he asked her for her real name, he could see she was scheming to come up with a best advantage situation, so it was the right time to just knock her out and take his shuttle back.
In this episode "Trash", Inara rubs it in to Saffron that some of the crew's performances might have given away their plan had Saffron been more observant. If we go back to the scene when Wash yells "What's she doing on this ship?" we can see Kaylee giggling which does pretty much give it away that Kaylee somehow knew already.
After watching the last episode of Firefly and before moving on to Serenity, you need to watch the River Tam Files. It's a series of videos that show snapshots of what was done to River at the Academy and were released ahead of the movie Serenity as promos.
They're soulmates, or to put it a better way, kindred souls, Zoe is more like a female version of Mal than a viable love interest for him. I like that a range of relationships can be depicted.Though Wash was right last episode that she needed to be honest with him. She can act in synch with the Captain but still be open about her thoughts and feelings. He was wrong about the jealousy and obviously venting pent up aggression but it wouldn't have been an issue if Zoe had thought to shoot straight with Wash. I know it's a small thing, but small acts of thoughtfulness add up.
Love your reactions and commentary... half of the reactors out there, I actually end up skipping through their analysis and random chat, but you're perceptive, smart, and funny. Not trying to be a stan, just wanting to give you that positive feedback, I'm a liker/commenter/subscriber now for your algorithm; looking forward to the rest of the series and checking out your other shows.
Also: it's okay to not like Jayne. I like him but I too wouldn't trust him as far as I can throw him (which wouldn't be very far, if Book's comments are to be believed)
(we'll get her wearing 'the hat' yet..) We are a cunning bunch.
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What was interesting is that Mal had sneaked YoSaffBridge aboard without yet buying into her plan. Surely he couldn't have kept her in the crate for long.
Zoey owed YoSaffBridge a sucker punch for YoSaffBridge having hurt her baby Wash.
The veil was for sun block! LOL I don't know, she always looks fabulous though.
The sucker punch was just so she wouldn't follow him. He was really just going to get his shuttle back but hoped to get an answer or two. so yeah he left her there :P
Every punch YoSaffBridge is well deserved.
She is such an interesting character. I have no doubt if there was a Season 2, she would have popped up again.
Probably in competition with Mal and crew over another caper.
6:07 I dunno why but this just makes me cackle 😂
Always thought that sucker punch was to keep her down so she wouldn't have a chance to shoot him in the back when he left
Mal punched her because he could see she was cooking up another lie.
He asked for her real name. But she hesitated and looked away. He saw her trying to read him, figure out what would be the perfect woman's name he'd feel a connection to. In other words, she was about to try and manipulate him, *yet again.* And so, right then and there, she *earned* that punch. Knocking her out was pretty much the only way he could prevent her trying to twist him around her little finger. After which, he says "You'd have only lied anyway..."
You should probably watch Band of Brothers to find out exactly what "war buddies" are and how deep those bonds can be.
Zoe and Mal would not be forged if they hadn’t lost. If they had won the war, they wouldn’t have known how deeply they could trust each other.
You should watch the clips that were cut from the earlier shows. Especially the one in which ZOE talks to Simon about the battle Serenity is named for...
yep. there's a lot of great stuff in the outtakes, bloopers and deleted scenes. Much of the deleted stuff got cut for time, not because there was anything wrong with it. .
Great reaction. Christina was incredible as usual.
I don't believe everyone should like any character. We all have our likes and dislikes. I love every member of the crew even Jayne. I also love Badger and Saffron, so where does that put me. I believe Jayne had the potential for an interesting arc, if the show continued.
I think Mal hit her at the end of Our Mrs Reynolds because he didnt trust turning his back on her.
He had to knock her out in order to get back to the shuttle.
Mal doesnt deal in poisons,
He wouldn't have shot her if she wasn't armed(and ain't fool enough to arm her.
As to ? In title - YoSafBridge 😀
So you see why I don't trust people, but I still like you.
A couple of things.....First Inara's dress. How a companion dresses is part of their identity. They ALWAYS look good. It adds to their mystique. Instead of them being thought of as "dirty" because they are prostitutes, they are seen as refined and classy. A status symbol. They are charming, seductive, and educated. Second thing....just for reference, these are humans(mostly american and Chinese) that LEFT earth(probably because it became uninhabitable) they colonized a star CLUSTER. Multiple stars in close proximity. "Dozens of planets and hundreds of moons." The "core" planets are the rich and industrialized alliance worlds, while the planets and moons outside of that area are more "wild west."
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Anna, "Trust is a big theme is show." Yes it is. Jayne and Simon have come full circle now. From the beginning Jayne didn't consider Simon part of the "crew." And ultimately that fact has driven Jayne to betray Simon and River to the Alliance. It has taken Jayne to being 10 seconds away from Mal flushing him out of the air lock. And now it has taken Jayne to where he is helpless and at the mercy of Simon.
Simon has every reason to kill Jayne right here and right now. Jayne's betrayal almost made meaningless all of Simon's sacrifices and struggles to keep River safe. But for Jayne's plan on Ariel falling apart, Simon would be dead or in prison and River would once again be suffering torturous experiments at the hands of the Alliance. Simon could murder Jayne right on that table and not Mal nor anyone else on the crew with the possible exception of Shepard would not believe him justified.
Jayne and Saffron have a lot in common. They have a similar moral code and neither are trustworthy. And once again Saffron's plans are undone because she is alone while Mal has a crew that trust one another, except for Jayne. Now Jayne lies helpless and in mortal jeopardy. When he calls out for help from the _crew_ there is nobody there. Like Saffron, Jayne is alone and undone.
But Jayne is not alone for despite what Jayne believes, Simon and River have become part of the _crew._ Simon recognizes this despite what Jayne has done. And if they can't trust each other then as Simon says, "I don't see this working any other way." So, Simon forgives Jayne. And in doing so he provides Jayne a path to redemption. So, yes. Trust is a big theme in this show. And Simon and Jayne have come full circle. The question now is, will Jayne take the lesson to heart?
It is my belief that in later seasons, Simon and Jayne would become best friends. They would be like the _Odd Couple._ Or better yet, River would fall in love with Jayne to the chagrin of Simon. Sadly we will never know.
I was with you ... wholeheartedly, until the last paragraph, which then made me think, "So close !!! But now, I think he's off his nut !!!" 👀😜🤪😁.
@@StevesFunhouse Mal has Inara, Wash has Zoe, Simon has Kaylee and River has Jayne. It has a certain symmetry to it. Besides River could be the perfect match for Jayne. Something tells me she could keep him on the straight and narrow.
@@robertanderson6929 ... and on that note, everyone just gave a black stare ... and then, turned and walked away. There is symmetry in hand cuffs ... but I don't see anyone lining up, wanting to to be fitted.
The only symmetry you see is a man and a woman. However, they are completely different from each other and definitely aren't compatible. They wouldn't be good for each other at all.
Jayne is a womanizer and River is ... well, River is a mess ... peculiar at times, and the rest of the time, a complete mess and unable to have a normal relationship with anyone . Her brain has been worked on ... fiddled with, and she will likely NEVER be totally okay and, oh yeah ... she HAS cut Jayne before, or did you forget that ???
Whatever dream world you thought that up in, just let it go, cause that was a nightmare you were having. I actually like Jayne ... a LOT, but I would NOT pair him up with River in any way, shape or form, or at any time. Whatever "something" it was that told you that River could keep Jayne on the straight and narrow, is sadistic. That would actually be a match made in Hell.
Edit: I was the culmination of a situation where, being a roadie, the band picked up a number of girls, and let's just say, if the last "untaken" girl wasn't going home with someone, the band wasn't going home with someone. So, I took a hit for the team, and that was the worst date I've ever had. It was disgusting, and I will never forget it.
Don't do it !!!
There used to be a lot of fanfiction featuring Jayne and River as partners, either romantic or as criminals working together.
regarding this wonderfully silly assertion about a 'Jayne & River' connection... is truly silly to almost everyone of the FF fans... BUT, as it turns out... the two were connected! years later, only as Colonial John Casey and "Greta" (an alias).... and they had much the same father-figure-always-teasing-daughter relationship on the series; Chuck, that they had on set of FF. It was said that the entire cast of FF had relentlessly teased Summer Glau during shooting on FF, but none more than Adam Baldwin, and Adam lovingly returned to the same habit when Summer guest starred on Chuck! So the two did have a connection... of sorts!
You should react to “The River Tam Sessions” it’s an extra on the dvds. They are on UA-cam. They don’t get included in a lot of reactions.
They should be watched between the last episode and the Serenity movie
@@sebastianwittmeier1274 - Absolutely!
How do you tell if Saffron is lying? Her mouth is open and sound is coming out.
Zoe had to punch YoSaffBridge. She owed her that after YSB kicked Wash in the head.
You really MUST watch the film Serenity after the TV episodes. Think of it as 3 or more episodes all wrapped in one towel. There is a major Easter egg in the film. Can't talk about it until you watch the film. See.... nothing like extra incentive. Right??
This was definitely a funny one.
First awesome reaction.
I have a very good friend. Recently I had a dream, thought it only right to tell her. She sent me pics and one heck of a video. That is how you friend.
Honey, wipe your chin...you're drooling...just a little. Also, pretty sure YoSafBridge would have become a member of the crew in 1 - 2 seasons.
You don't have to like Jayne. You have my permission.
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It’s a great review series. Perhaps review Band of Brothers at your next convenience to further the experience with war buddies. Thanks for your efforts.
Band of Brothers??? I couldn't take the stress!
Christina Hendricks was 28 and smoking.
Don't worry. I didn't like Jayne until his behavior warranted it.
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YoSaffBridge was funny.
"I never got to telling you his name." Not really consistent with his previous statement of "So, you guys have met."
Perfectly consistent. When two people react like that to each other's presence, you KNOW they've interacted before. Names don't come into it.
And had he told YoSaffBridge about his friend Mal's namel, then she wouldn't have been taken by surprise, would she? She'd have been ready for the encounter, to make sure she had the upper hand.
He pondered that they must have met.
Mal confirmed that they had.
Yosafbridge said he was lying.
Calling him Mal, confirmed that they had and that Mal was not lying and that she was. His first thought was right, proven right and she was proven unable to support her lie.
A more current example:
"You called * * a traitor didn't you"
"I never said that"
"Let's go to exibit A"
"Oh wait now I remember"
Catching her in a lie, was not inconsistent with the accusing attorney's statement by preventing her from lying.
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I've been a fan of The show since it aired, and still don't particularly like Jayne. I mean, he's a good character for the show, and definitely fits a specific place on the crew, but he's just not a likable human being.
Just sayin.
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