I totally agree!!! Almost all California fire departments are hiring these new firefighters I don’t know what a Phillips screwdriver is anymore!!!! It’s the truth !!!! I see it firsthand these new recruits. Don’t know how to work anymore. Do you have the phone by the mouth? It’s like kindergarten with a badge!!!! it’s ridiculous!!!!
As a veteran in the fire service!!! Constructive criticism is a good thing !!! We can all learn something from this video!!! First of all these agencies need to start training together I can see this is a mutual aid incident!!!! It doesn’t make any sense to have that ladder that straight up in the air that’s steep!!! Why place your firefighters in great danger that high up in the air!!! of course we can still raise up the aerial ladder, but there is a much safer way of angle approach!!!! Let’s prevent an injury or a fatality!!!! Let’s start training let’s start understanding the basics in water supply operations, and overall training together as mutual aid agencies here!!!! I’m not trying to badmouth these fire department, but they truly need to work together and understand the basics!!!! God bless everyone stay safe out there!!!! We are here for the people we serve the people, and we have to ensure we are professionals at all times on duty and off duty✌️✌️✌️✌️
looks like tgey just needed that 'football'. Yes, very painful. Drove a 100ft TDA for 25 years. This,was poor. Could have been half or more engine guys on the rig on OT.
We did mandatory training for truck companies that included 4 minute drills….4 minutes to get ladder raised and in operation on activation of parking brake
When everyone knows their job, 4 minutes is a great time. The longest time is finding an engine to supply you and hooking up. At least thats been my experience.
I never knew there was such a thing as Keystone Firemen. They finally listened to me yelling "VIAGRA...VIAGRA...PUT VIAGRA IN THE TANK!! Eventually the ladder went up and...
Its not, lack of training and experience. Probably half or less would bren ok and dropped the stick down to a liwer angle. Knowing your ladders operating spec woukd be great. I drove a 100ft TDAin an old northeast city for 26 years. Knowing your rig is importain. I used about 80% of the ladder at about 30° as a 'squirt' on a windy day. We had 6 row homes 'rolling' that day. We had a remote control flypipe on it, worked great. Knocked down a lit of fire that day.
I've been a firefighter for 20yrs this was really bad the house burned down before they got there sh.t together someone would have to go back to training in my company
And every shift, day and night, set up/break down, do it again plus verbal test questions on the sticks safe operating angles and extensions with and without water flowing.
It looks like to me that the fire is half out and under control ,while the latter truck is trying to get the water going and someone said and I agree the latter is too high up it should be about half that high . The might as well bring the latter back down and not use it it looks kie the fire is mainly out apparently these guys don't know completely what they are doing !. I'm so sorry I had to say that but it's true .
Excelentes camiones pero en ocasiones recurso inecesario, personal en tierra ya habia controlado la situación y casi 20 minutos para instalar y empezar a trabajar lo hace un recurso no viable, al menos en ese tipo de servicio
Wow, this took way too long to get in operation. Partly maybe because they don't practice engough, And I get the feeling that there is also little communication and command structure. of Normally when the truck is stabilised, it should take 1 minute to get the ladder up, 1 minute to get someone in top. At the moment the ladder arrives the other fire fighters already have the hoses in place and pressure on. We now also see here the disadvantage of the ladder compared to the telescopic boom lift. the telescopic boom lift is faster, more manoeuvrable and much quicker in action. Moreover, it is safer for the firefighter. But as long as the ladder is in action, practice! But it is also fair to say; the 'best steersmen are on shore'
Wow. As an ex-fire fighter this is wild to watch. At this point why bother w/aerial stream. 🤔 I don't care for the added water line,plumbed the way to go
Look closely when they raise the stick - it has a plumber waterway with an automatic nozzle. I don't understand why they stretched a pipe or didn't call for a truck with a serviceable pre- plumbed waterway. Even FDNY swaps out their trucks for towers if they want an aerial master stream.
@@TalbotBrooksThere us 2 'pipes'. The waterway you see is for the 'bed pipe'. That is mounted to the underside of tge 'bed ladder' or bottom, main section. the 'fly pipe' is what they set up. That is mounted on too of the 'fly sections' of the ladder. The fly sections,are the ones that extend, the bed dies not extend. They can actually have 2 pipes flowung water at once. 25 years on TDA.
Was this a joke? Didnt know what they wanted to do but whats worse is they didnt do anything but look like bafoons with a new toy. You guys need training and drilling and lots of it or someone is going get injured.
Wondering why the engine didn't reverse last from the serial to the plug, why they hand-jacked 5" supply line as it is not designed to service an aerial master steam (maximum operating pressure on 5" is 200 psi - you're near that limit on 100' ladder, internal friction loss, and the operating pressure of the alliance), and why a hand line wasn't simply stretched over the wall? They seemed to figure the 5" pressure problem out before disaster struck there and hand- jack a 2.5", then realize that wouldn't supply the volume and then stretched another 2.5". That full extension and climb angle was stupid and dangerous - especially with no fold-down steps at the tip for better footing when the line is charged (even if he did snap in). Where was the crew from the staged apparatus - watching? Just astonished and dismayed at this from a Class 1 accredited fire department. Above all, did my eyes deceive me, or did that truck have a plumbed waterway and automatic nozzle (watch when they first lift it out of the cradle)?
Plenty of 4"-5" hose nowadays (especially the double jacket stuff they're using) is rated for supply as well as attack, with a 300psi service pressure. I was definitely also wondering what was up with not using the pre-plumbed waterway, though.
Wow incredible on how long it took them to start putting water on the fire..Pleased it wasn’t my house.these guys looked like they didn’t have much idea
Its not an old truck. That setup using a flypipe fed by a hose line is still in use today. Ive used both, prepiped is nice and quick, hose fed flypipe is ok too, just need more time to set up, maybe a minute or two.
Over 18 minutes until water came? Definitely far too long. The house must have already burned down by the time the ladder was up and water came. And why sooo high? Aren't there baskets on the ladders in America that the firefighters can stand in and work safely? That looks extremely dangerous.
#1 what's the dude going to do who isn't in full turn out gear walking around with the radio? What is he going to do if a firefighter puts out a "help call?" #2 These guys have one job to do and one job only - put the wet stuff on the red stuff, and they couldn't even execute that task? Wow! #3 Why would they fully extend the stick on a single story structure and have a firefighter risk his life to climb to the top when the fire is 90 % contained?
Okay I thought the idea was to attack the fire from an aerial approach BEFORE it burns out on it’s own! Lol. And that steep angle of the ladder… WHY??? 20 minutes without a single drop of water on that fire…omg…
जब तक फायर ब्रिगेड अपनी तयारी करती हैं, तब तक मिनिटो मे वो घर आग मे स्वाहा हो जाता हैं. सिर्फ रख बचती हैं, कुदरत कि मार बडी भयावह होती हैं, सुपर पावर भी बेबस हो जाता हैं.
Wow, obviously these guys need a lot of training, the Lieutenant and captain need to step it up if they call themselves leaders, time to get out of the day room!
These fire brigades are a waste of taxpayer money. Absolutely ridiculous that it took over 18 minutes for the first dribble of water anwhy even bother the other units already had the fire under control.
I laugh every time I see. These jokers out in California with their ropes and running hose up the ladder. Pre plumbed waterways work all over the country, but not in California.😅
Everything in this video pissed me off! Worst ladder ops I've ever seen. Engine was there to supply the bendy straw,hit a hydrant on the way in so ya don't have to look like a bunch of clowns stretching hose. A good training video of what not to do I suppose!.
It's just ridiculous. By the time they start operation everything is finished. Sophisticated arrangements but very lackadaisical approach . Practically just useless.
Schickt die Leute zur Ausbildung nach Europa... da ist das Haus komplett abgebrannt bevor auch nur ein einziger Tropfen Wasser den Brandort erreicht?! sorry, das ist einfach nur.... lächerlich.
Why did it take so long before they got that ladder pipe set up
I totally agree!!! Almost all California fire departments are hiring these new firefighters I don’t know what a Phillips screwdriver is anymore!!!!
It’s the truth !!!! I see it firsthand these new recruits. Don’t know how to work anymore. Do you have the phone by the mouth? It’s like kindergarten with a badge!!!! it’s ridiculous!!!!
As a veteran in the fire service!!!
Constructive criticism is a good thing !!! We can all learn something from this video!!!
First of all these agencies need to start training together I can see this is a mutual aid incident!!!!
It doesn’t make any sense to have that ladder that straight up in the air that’s steep!!! Why place your firefighters in great danger that high up in the air!!! of course we can still raise up the aerial ladder, but there is a much safer way of angle approach!!!!
Let’s prevent an injury or a fatality!!!!
Let’s start training let’s start understanding the basics in water supply operations, and overall training together as mutual aid agencies here!!!!
I’m not trying to badmouth these fire department, but they truly need to work together and understand the basics!!!!
God bless everyone stay safe out there!!!!
We are here for the people we serve the people, and we have to ensure we are professionals at all times on duty and off duty✌️✌️✌️✌️
Если мозгов нет, то и учить бесполезно. Оператор видит очаг, видит радиус лестницы, но все равно выдвигает ее на всю длину. Это кретинизм.
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18:57 video only 57 seconds of water from the ladder. 18 minutes of set up. Wow.
By the time they got the aerial into action the fire was just about out. got to be a better way to deploy and get that thing into action.
Training. Waaaaaay yoo long for setup.
Taking way too much time getting aerial operation into service??? Ridiculous! 20 minutes to get water out the pipe 😕😕😕
The TDA has a plumbed waterway. Why add a master stream on top of that?
waterway is for the bed pipe, not the fly pipe. two different setups. Flypipe needs a hose to feed it.
Set up this operation many times.
Wow. That was hard to watch...
Yes it was. This dept. needs practice. It took over 15 minutes to get water on the fire.
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It looks like it is taking a long time to get that ladder in the air
Ya think?
as a retired firefighter this is painful to watch.....maybe the truck company has never done this before.....
looks like tgey just needed that 'football'.
Yes, very painful. Drove a 100ft TDA for 25 years. This,was poor. Could have been half or more engine guys on the rig on OT.
We did mandatory training for truck companies that included 4 minute drills….4 minutes to get ladder raised and in operation on activation of parking brake
When everyone knows their job, 4 minutes is a great time. The longest time is finding an engine to supply you and hooking up.
At least thats been my experience.
Nice catch 👍🏻
Eighteen minutes to setup aerial and get water flowing? Doesn’t get much slower than that.
I never knew there was such a thing as Keystone Firemen.
They finally listened to me yelling "VIAGRA...VIAGRA...PUT VIAGRA IN THE TANK!! Eventually the ladder went up and...
Was 100 feet in the air really necessary?
Its not, lack of training and experience. Probably half or less would bren ok and dropped the stick down to a liwer angle.
Knowing your ladders operating spec woukd be great.
I drove a 100ft TDAin an old northeast city for 26 years. Knowing your rig is importain.
I used about 80% of the ladder at about 30° as a 'squirt' on a windy day. We had 6 row homes 'rolling' that day. We had a remote control flypipe on it, worked great. Knocked down a lit of fire that day.
I don’t understand why they used the ladder pipe, when the ladder is pre-piped.
Horizontal reach, but they never lowered the stick. Really poor.
I've been a firefighter for 20yrs this was really bad the house burned down before they got there sh.t together someone would have to go back to training in my company
And every shift, day and night, set up/break down, do it again plus verbal test questions on the sticks safe operating angles and extensions with and without water flowing.
Get a stop watch how long does it take to set up...this in no way disrespectful
Training....,maybe....
Once again. Too little ,too late ,and a waste of time. The fire is probably under control by the time they finally get that thing up.
At least you placed it well outside of the collapse zone. 👍
What a waste of time trying to put ladder up. Smoke is all white and fire under control.
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It looks like to me that the fire is half out and under control ,while the latter truck is trying to get the water going and someone said and I agree the latter is too high up it should be about half that high . The might as well bring the latter back down and not use it it looks kie the fire is mainly out apparently these guys don't know completely what they are doing !. I'm so sorry I had to say that but it's true .
ladder
I know, let's park far away from the fire so we can use our long hoses!
WOW. Dude, you did get the money shot 😂
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Excelentes camiones pero en ocasiones recurso inecesario, personal en tierra ya habia controlado la situación y casi 20 minutos para instalar y empezar a trabajar lo hace un recurso no viable, al menos en ese tipo de servicio
Well the house was gone before they used their water. Wooden houses and slow firefighting. Not a good combination.
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So,was this just a training exercise? It sure looked like it.
Good footage, anyway. Thanks.
Wow, this took way too long to get in operation. Partly maybe because they don't practice engough, And I get the feeling that there is also little communication and command structure. of Normally when the truck is stabilised, it should take 1 minute to get the ladder up, 1 minute to get someone in top. At the moment the ladder arrives the other fire fighters already have the hoses in place and pressure on. We now also see here the disadvantage of the ladder compared to the telescopic boom lift. the telescopic boom lift is faster, more manoeuvrable and much quicker in action. Moreover, it is safer for the firefighter. But as long as the ladder is in action, practice! But it is also fair to say; the 'best steersmen are on shore'
Wow. As an ex-fire fighter this is wild to watch. At this point why bother w/aerial stream. 🤔 I don't care for the added water line,plumbed the way to go
Look closely when they raise the stick - it has a plumber waterway with an automatic nozzle. I don't understand why they stretched a pipe or didn't call for a truck with a serviceable pre- plumbed waterway. Even FDNY swaps out their trucks for towers if they want an aerial master stream.
@@TalbotBrooksThere us 2 'pipes'. The waterway you see is for the 'bed pipe'. That is mounted to the underside of tge 'bed ladder' or bottom, main section. the 'fly pipe' is what they set up. That is mounted on too of the 'fly sections' of the ladder. The fly sections,are the ones that extend, the bed dies not extend.
They can actually have 2 pipes flowung water at once.
25 years on TDA.
I dont understand. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
NICE VIDEO
Thanks
Was this a joke? Didnt know what they wanted to do but whats worse is they didnt do anything but look like bafoons with a new toy. You guys need training and drilling and lots of it or someone is going get injured.
Wondering why the engine didn't reverse last from the serial to the plug, why they hand-jacked 5" supply line as it is not designed to service an aerial master steam (maximum operating pressure on 5" is 200 psi - you're near that limit on 100' ladder, internal friction loss, and the operating pressure of the alliance), and why a hand line wasn't simply stretched over the wall? They seemed to figure the 5" pressure problem out before disaster struck there and hand- jack a 2.5", then realize that wouldn't supply the volume and then stretched another 2.5". That full extension and climb angle was stupid and dangerous - especially with no fold-down steps at the tip for better footing when the line is charged (even if he did snap in). Where was the crew from the staged apparatus - watching? Just astonished and dismayed at this from a Class 1 accredited fire department. Above all, did my eyes deceive me, or did that truck have a plumbed waterway and automatic nozzle (watch when they first lift it out of the cradle)?
Plenty of 4"-5" hose nowadays (especially the double jacket stuff they're using) is rated for supply as well as attack, with a 300psi service pressure. I was definitely also wondering what was up with not using the pre-plumbed waterway, though.
Wow incredible on how long it took them to start putting water on the fire..Pleased it wasn’t my house.these guys looked like they didn’t have much idea
Must be an old truck using a rope to move the nozzle.
Its not an old truck. That setup using a flypipe fed by a hose line is still in use today. Ive used both, prepiped is nice and quick, hose fed flypipe is ok too, just need more time to set up, maybe a minute or two.
Over 18 minutes until water came? Definitely far too long. The house must have already burned down by the time the ladder was up and water came. And why sooo high? Aren't there baskets on the ladders in America that the firefighters can stand in and work safely? That looks extremely dangerous.
#1 what's the dude going to do who isn't in full turn out gear walking around with the radio? What is he going to do if a firefighter puts out a "help call?" #2 These guys have one job to do and one job only - put the wet stuff on the red stuff, and they couldn't even execute that task? Wow! #3 Why would they fully extend the stick on a single story structure and have a firefighter risk his life to climb to the top when the fire is 90 % contained?
.by the time they get. That ladder set up the fire. Will be out damn are they slow
Yikes. What did I just watch?
Pretty old style ladder truck, if one has to go all the way up the ladder to control the nozzle.
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Okay I thought the idea was to attack the fire from an aerial approach BEFORE it burns out on it’s own! Lol. And that steep angle of the ladder… WHY??? 20 minutes without a single drop of water on that fire…omg…
He visto videos de Bomberos de Bruselas,Holanda y Rusos.....Son unos capo los compadres,nada que decir solo,Felicitarlos.
जब तक फायर ब्रिगेड अपनी तयारी करती हैं, तब तक मिनिटो मे वो घर आग मे स्वाहा हो जाता हैं. सिर्फ रख बचती हैं, कुदरत कि मार बडी भयावह होती हैं, सुपर पावर भी बेबस हो जाता हैं.
Wow, obviously these guys need a lot of training, the Lieutenant and captain need to step it up if they call themselves leaders, time to get out of the day room!
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18 minutes...........Long.....très long .......trop long!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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wie kein MannKorb bei der leiter ??? komisch , sowas kenne ich aus deutschland nicht
sure they are fire man
Slow, tooo slow
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이런소방차는필요가 없다 화제현장에소방차는 시간이너무나 많이 소비된다
집은벌써탔고
쓰러져 간다
소방차에서
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너무나 늦게 나와참으로한심하네요
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Keep in mind that this is California they do things in a strange way sometimes.
Sorry guys, but this is way too slow. 🙁
Verry lagy fire fiting
These fire brigades are a waste of taxpayer money. Absolutely ridiculous that it took over 18 minutes for the first dribble of water anwhy even bother the other units already had the fire under control.
guess the house did not belong to anyone important, like the Mayor, Fire Chief, or police Chief!
Take your time guys the fire will still be there whenever your ready.
Lol
Too Damn Ole fashion setting up a tiller it should be Pre pipe
The house was completely fired. What is the benefit of this fire force? 👺 Shame, Shame.
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The fire man who is climbing to its ladder is not smart
Maybe a little more training is in order. Or maybe THAT WAS the training.
За это время подготовки только осталось залить головешки..,. 😂😂😂
Slowest truck operations I've seen in years, terrible
जब तक बड़ा यंत्र तैयार हो उससे पहले छोटे यंत्र से काम चालू कर देना चाहिए समझे अकल से काम लो
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I laugh every time I see. These jokers out in California with their ropes and running hose up the ladder. Pre plumbed waterways work all over the country, but not in California.😅
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This system of fire brigade is not necessary let them used this as toys in their own home for children
Ladder truck can go back home now
Everything in this video pissed me off! Worst ladder ops I've ever seen. Engine was there to supply the bendy straw,hit a hydrant on the way in so ya don't have to look like a bunch of clowns stretching hose.
A good training video of what not to do I suppose!.
Firemen training again not perfect, i am 25 years service fireman
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Climbing the ladder for what? Dangerous and waste of energy
It's just ridiculous. By the time they start operation everything is finished. Sophisticated arrangements but very lackadaisical approach . Practically just useless.
when they have finished half of USA has burnt
Schickt die Leute zur Ausbildung nach Europa... da ist das Haus komplett abgebrannt bevor auch nur ein einziger Tropfen Wasser den Brandort erreicht?! sorry, das ist einfach nur.... lächerlich.
Too slow, everything gone
In Europe they would have done this in one tenth the time.
Que verguenza el carro escala inutil no sirve para esta emergencia los bomberos muy lento no se ganan el sueldo no salvan a nadie
ច្រើនតែគ្នា,ទំរាម់តែនិងបានបាញ់ភ្លើងឆេះអស់,70%
Very slow
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Я не розумію чому вони приїхали на пожежу?Слабаки!!!
Way to long.
Quá chậm chạp
long time for set up.👎
Calmi calmi.
The house has probably burned to the ground by the time these yahoo get water going.
У американских пожарных сильный только профсоюз. 20 !!! Минут разворачивать лестницу. Толстобрюхие еле шевелятся.
Great job by CFD
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Very bad performance.workers are very lazy