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That's the reason I came back to VW after a 20 years hiatus 😂😂😂 My last VW was a 1998 GTI VR6 that I bored to 2.9 with euro pistons, euro intake manifold, schrick 268 cams and exhaust just to put down 225 hp.
I've never understood where this description came from for Unitronic tunes. I've been using their software since 2016 and have NEVER seen it as conservative.
@@VancityAudiI think they’ve gotten the “conservative” reputation because they use more timing and less boost, and so on butt dyno they feel like they have less kick. At least that’s what I’ve seen on previous gens
@@VancityAudithat was the old conservative unitronic. If you had worked with them in early 2000s and up to mk7-mk7.5 GTI and golf R platform it'd be more clear. Mid boost and higher timing was their thing while keeping real good drivability. The rest of the tuner companies cranked out boost, high timing and throttle sensitivity. It wasn't until daza motor came around that they started changing toward being more aggressive, locking in that platform, now mk8 and rest of the platforms (this is all more recent). It's worked out really well for them regardless.
I love your videos! If the cars will make that kinda torque with e85, I honestly think you can run the 87/93 stage 1 tunes (without low torque files). I'm probably not the only person that would also love to see those results. Different tuners can use different factors to limit torque, so I'd be really interested to see how they all stack up against each other with the full-on tunes. If not I understand. Just a suggestion, but I really do love your videos and hope to see many more with this platform. I have a 2024 380 se gti, and I follow you weekly and will be deciding my tuner off of your videos.
APR has V-Tech kick in at the end haha. You truly are doing gods work here for us. I will just assume that results would be similar if it was done with the R. I’m really liking what Unitronic is doing
Another great video. What is the maintenance schedule on your car with all this dyno runs? oil change interval , spark plug change interval , spark plug gap . Have you done a DSG service?
So what did you need to change to run E85? Do these cars have ethanol sensors? Did you need to change spark plugs or injectors, is the E85 usage covered under APR's warranty?
@@VancityAudi Literally no you didn't, not in this video. I watched every second of it and you never mentioned anything about the warranty, spark plugs, injectors, or e85 sensor.
@om606channel 😂😂😂 you need to work on your comprehension of the English language then. I literally say that ALL OF THE HARDWARE IS STOCK during the disclaimers. As for the warranty question, you are correct, I didn't answer that one. My bad! The only tunes that APR offers warranties with are their APR PLUS tunes which are shown in this video: ua-cam.com/video/8rIRQ4NvOWs/v-deo.html
😢 sorry! Been going through the ringer with life and haven't been able to edit any of the footage I've shot. Plus some other delays we've seen. With that said I have a bunch of videos shot already, and they just need to be edited now.
@@VancityAudi I completely get it Adam. No worries! Life and family always takes priority. I look forward to what you have up and coming. My father always said "patience is a virtue". We will be here when you drop the next one!
@@VancityAudi I don't understand the expression very well, I'm not a native English speaker, but I'm still looking forward to that new graphic material. Good luck and we will wait for you
Ethanol is fantastic at compensating for intercooling deficits, especially at higher concentrations. Which is why it’s not super surprising to see such huge gains over 93 on stock hardware. On a side note, some of those torque curves are gross, while others are quite nice. I may have missed it, but were you noticing repeatable dips between the 3 runs on those companies calibration that has them? Cheers
The adding cooling benefits of ethanol didnt benefit me like you are stating in this comparison. My IAT's were really low already due to the weather conditions I tested in. If I were to have tested in the heat where the OEM intercooler was being stressed, then I'd agree with you. As for the second part of your comment, I'm not sure what you're asking.
@@VancityAudi where is the IAT located? And what was the delta between AAT and IAT? On the calibrations that had the huge torque dips, was it repeatable from run to run (of the 3 that you did on each).
@JordieG8 you can always tell who actually watches the videos and who just scrolls through to the results by the questions they ask, lol. On every single company's dyno pulls I share the maximum IAT reached. No, the torque did not vary all over the place between the 3 runs. The graph was extremely consistent from run to run. As I mentioned and shared in the video, the environmental conditions I tested in were incredibly good.
@@JordieG8And you're a know it all YT commenter hey? None of these cars saw any timing corrections due to the IAT's. I know that an intercooler will benefit each of these tunes in terms of making consistent power delivery. If there was an intercooler installed, we wouldn't be anywhere near that delta. In terms of what I showed on the dyno though, the peak IAT's did not cause any loss of power which was what I was showing in this video.
I really like the performance of Unitronic’s flex tune on my TTRS. I certainly have my criticisms of them but they’re nothing if not responsive and helpful.
Nice all of this without a huge modification..my guess is once you finish modify you hardware my guess your car should touch 680..let see the future videos....great work Adam!!
@@VancityAudi oh sorry, the drag racing event At Bremerton raceway. It popped up on my Facebook and looked like you were interested in going. It’s like 5 minutes from the house…
As I discussed in Part 3 of my Tuner Battle Series, Unitronic offers both a GBX file and a Low Torque file that works with a locked TCU. When I asked what files they'd like me to showcase, they wanted to see the GBX in action. If you want a lower torque tune, that is available on their server.
I just switched back to E85 on my TTRS. It’s such a dramatic difference than stage 2 93. I got a question when I switched there two different times that say “use at your own risk” I’ve read for drag racing prepped track and such. I have a deserted road that’s about a 3/4 mile all to myself. Would that tune be good for there? I’ve read in forums that people use the tune with no problems just wondering if you used it. Its Unitronic. Thanks Vancity!!
@skywalk3x ohhhh, those. Basically that ramps up your boost on launch. Too much boost on an unprepped surface will more than likely cause excessive wheelspin. The other factor would be launching with more boost on launch is more likely to break something.
@@VancityAudi I tell you Vancity you’re so generous with your time to answer some questions. You’ve answered me now a few times even when I wasn’t directly asking you. I’ve been on UA-cam for years and I subscribe to a lot of channels and you’ve been one of the best UA-camrs because I feel you generally want to help people. I appreciate everything you do yo your videos to just being a nice guy. Thanks so much and you have a subscriber for life!
@@skywalk3xI really appreciate the kind words! Just know that I'm actually an a$$hole in real life, and this online persona is just a trick! Thanks for watching!
@@VancityAudi still waiting on that video hope all is well with you in yr personal life ended up tuning my mk8 gti with 034 stage 1 91 based on yr video love the tune
My DSG wasn't happy with any of the ethanol tunes until I performed a basic settings adaptation of the transmission. It drives much better now, but I'm not sure it will stay that way with the torque level of these tunes.
@@VancityAudi Oh damn. I was going to go with the APR stage 1 87 low torque tune because of the warranty. Did the lower power/torque tunes feel any better?
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360+whp and 400+wtq from a otherwise stock GTI with E and software?? I never thought I'd see the day. Ethanol is truly the nectar of the Gods
Sh$t is nutty!
The engine and turbo design has come a long way also
@@SpenserHarristhat it has
That's the reason I came back to VW after a 20 years hiatus 😂😂😂
My last VW was a 1998 GTI VR6 that I bored to 2.9 with euro pistons, euro intake manifold, schrick 268 cams and exhaust just to put down 225 hp.
Solid numbers! Keep it up Adam. 👏👏
Man we miss your videos
We've filmed a bunch! Just need to start editing them, and then I'll start dropping videos again.
Very glad to hear it you’re one of my favourite to watch. Love from Aus
brother, are you alive? How are you, how is your health? why have you been missing for so long?
Doing alright! I needed a break for my mental, physical, and financial health! I've filmed a bunch of content! I just need to find time to edit it!
@@VancityAudi hold on, don't give up! we are with you! We always look forward to interesting and informative videos from you! hugged!
@@МаксимВоронин-ы9жnever had any intention of giving up. I just needed a break
Love the in depth review. Your helping the community at large with videos like this!!! Cheers 🍻
Where did you go you’ve disappeared?
I had to take a mental health and financial break from making videos. I've recorded over a dozen now, I just need to find time to edit them.
When we seeing the rs3 again 👀👀
Very soon! The rebuild video is coming soon!
Unitronic is usually the “conservative” one 😅 amazing! They did a great job.
I've never understood where this description came from for Unitronic tunes. I've been using their software since 2016 and have NEVER seen it as conservative.
@@VancityAudiI think they’ve gotten the “conservative” reputation because they use more timing and less boost, and so on butt dyno they feel like they have less kick. At least that’s what I’ve seen on previous gens
@siddharthyadav213 I see. I've always seen them as being one of the quickest & fastest in the 1/4 mile, so I've never considered them conservative.
@@VancityAudithat was the old conservative unitronic.
If you had worked with them in early 2000s and up to mk7-mk7.5 GTI and golf R platform it'd be more clear. Mid boost and higher timing was their thing while keeping real good drivability. The rest of the tuner companies cranked out boost, high timing and throttle sensitivity. It wasn't until daza motor came around that they started changing toward being more aggressive, locking in that platform, now mk8 and rest of the platforms (this is all more recent). It's worked out really well for them regardless.
I love your videos! If the cars will make that kinda torque with e85, I honestly think you can run the 87/93 stage 1 tunes (without low torque files). I'm probably not the only person that would also love to see those results. Different tuners can use different factors to limit torque, so I'd be really interested to see how they all stack up against each other with the full-on tunes. If not I understand. Just a suggestion, but I really do love your videos and hope to see many more with this platform. I have a 2024 380 se gti, and I follow you weekly and will be deciding my tuner off of your videos.
Sorry dude! I won't be dropping back in power for any reason. I'll only be making more power from here on out.
APR has V-Tech kick in at the end haha. You truly are doing gods work here for us. I will just assume that results would be similar if it was done with the R. I’m really liking what Unitronic is doing
Impossible to say sadly. Different turbo and slightly different motor.
@@VancityAudi That is also true
Another great video. What is the maintenance schedule on your car with all this dyno runs? oil change interval , spark plug change interval , spark plug gap . Have you done a DSG service?
Lol, as you can see on the dash, the car only has 15,000km on it. 3 oil changes, that's it. Roughly 7-8k between
Great test as ever. Of course would be great to see driving impressions ❤
Good one! No surprise on Unitronic...they like the timing advance and can get it smoothly running E.
They sure did
For the drag strip times are you going to test each tune at the strip or are you going to pick 1 tune and run with it?
I'm undecided at this point. Seeing as my RS3 should be track ready this year, I'll be putting that as the priority on the drag strip.
So what did you need to change to run E85? Do these cars have ethanol sensors? Did you need to change spark plugs or injectors, is the E85 usage covered under APR's warranty?
I answered every single one of those questions in the video.
@@VancityAudi Literally no you didn't, not in this video. I watched every second of it and you never mentioned anything about the warranty, spark plugs, injectors, or e85 sensor.
@om606channel 😂😂😂 you need to work on your comprehension of the English language then. I literally say that ALL OF THE HARDWARE IS STOCK during the disclaimers.
As for the warranty question, you are correct, I didn't answer that one. My bad! The only tunes that APR offers warranties with are their APR PLUS tunes which are shown in this video: ua-cam.com/video/8rIRQ4NvOWs/v-deo.html
Nice video! Is that red eclipse a GSX?
Thanks! No idea. You'd have to ask Racing Greed
Its been 3 months.
Im missing Vancity.....
😢 sorry! Been going through the ringer with life and haven't been able to edit any of the footage I've shot. Plus some other delays we've seen. With that said I have a bunch of videos shot already, and they just need to be edited now.
@@VancityAudi
I completely get it Adam.
No worries!
Life and family always takes priority.
I look forward to what you have up and coming.
My father always said "patience is a virtue".
We will be here when you drop the next one!
@@VancityAudi I don't understand the expression very well, I'm not a native English speaker, but I'm still looking forward to that new graphic material. Good luck and we will wait for you
Have you ever added EQT tunes to your comparison list?
I asked them to join. They wouldn't agree to the same terms that every other company did.
@@VancityAudi got you. Appreciate it.
Ethanol is fantastic at compensating for intercooling deficits, especially at higher concentrations. Which is why it’s not super surprising to see such huge gains over 93 on stock hardware. On a side note, some of those torque curves are gross, while others are quite nice. I may have missed it, but were you noticing repeatable dips between the 3 runs on those companies calibration that has them?
Cheers
The adding cooling benefits of ethanol didnt benefit me like you are stating in this comparison. My IAT's were really low already due to the weather conditions I tested in. If I were to have tested in the heat where the OEM intercooler was being stressed, then I'd agree with you.
As for the second part of your comment, I'm not sure what you're asking.
@@VancityAudi where is the IAT located? And what was the delta between AAT and IAT?
On the calibrations that had the huge torque dips, was it repeatable from run to run (of the 3 that you did on each).
@JordieG8 you can always tell who actually watches the videos and who just scrolls through to the results by the questions they ask, lol. On every single company's dyno pulls I share the maximum IAT reached.
No, the torque did not vary all over the place between the 3 runs. The graph was extremely consistent from run to run. As I mentioned and shared in the video, the environmental conditions I tested in were incredibly good.
@@VancityAudi I watched, I just wanted to confirm you thought a 20+ degree delta was acceptable intercooling. You are rather arrogant hey?
@@JordieG8And you're a know it all YT commenter hey? None of these cars saw any timing corrections due to the IAT's. I know that an intercooler will benefit each of these tunes in terms of making consistent power delivery. If there was an intercooler installed, we wouldn't be anywhere near that delta. In terms of what I showed on the dyno though, the peak IAT's did not cause any loss of power which was what I was showing in this video.
Hi!
Can you share any updates about your Audi RS3?
I did, in this video: ua-cam.com/video/Yzx2PRdol00/v-deo.html
@@VancityAudiThis was 2 mounth ago. I already saw it :)
@mikeleshkov4805 then the other updates have already been shared on social media. Besides that, nothing has been released.
I really like the performance of Unitronic’s flex tune on my TTRS. I certainly have my criticisms of them but they’re nothing if not responsive and helpful.
I've heard that their UniFLEX software is coming to the MK8 world as well 😁😁😁
Nice all of this without a huge modification..my guess is once you finish modify you hardware my guess your car should touch 680..let see the future videos....great work Adam!!
Hahahaha. I'm sure I'll be able to add a bunch more horsepower to this little beehotch with a few more hardware modifications!
wait wait so this car can run e85 all stock hardware not even upgrades injectors or pumps? All you need is a tune for e85 and your good?!?!
I covered that in the video 😁
Hey, was it possible to run RPF1s on an 8V RS3?
Check out the sh$t ton of videos on my channel featuring my RS3 and see for yourself!
Does this mean there is a 'High Torque' file available for these E85 tunes?
Yes
Plz do a dyno comparison of what fuel is better for: Petro 94 vs Shell 93
As I mentioned in your last comment, which was exactly the same... we don't have Petro 94 in the Lower Mainland.
Amazing video.
Thank you
Third time is a charm, I guess.
wow , incredible comparison, another great video Adam 🙌 @Unitronic working the magic again 😀
Thank you
did you need a hardware mod for e85? or the Tune does the calculation built in ?
I go through every single detail regarding the hardware in the video
Can’t wait to see a review when we drop UniFLEX ;)
And I can't wait to try it out!
Another banger! Was everything cancelled this weekend? It’s rainy over here and I couldn’t find an update.
If I knew what you were talking about, I might be able to answer, lol
@@VancityAudi oh sorry, the drag racing event At Bremerton raceway. It popped up on my Facebook and looked like you were interested in going. It’s like 5 minutes from the house…
@Ourgarageautodetail it has been postponed to the 30/31st I think, due to the weather.
Hey Adam what made you buy the GTI over the R?
Being poor
The theme so far is unitronic sucks at low torque tunes and wants manual cars to destroy clutches.
Low tq tunes aren’t designed around manual transmission cars, they’re designed around the limitations of a stock tcu
As I discussed in Part 3 of my Tuner Battle Series, Unitronic offers both a GBX file and a Low Torque file that works with a locked TCU. When I asked what files they'd like me to showcase, they wanted to see the GBX in action. If you want a lower torque tune, that is available on their server.
Are these tunes safe to use with stock dsg tune?
I explained that in the video
I just switched back to E85 on my TTRS. It’s such a dramatic difference than stage 2 93. I got a question when I switched there two different times that say “use at your own risk” I’ve read for drag racing prepped track and such. I have a deserted road that’s about a 3/4 mile all to myself. Would that tune be good for there? I’ve read in forums that people use the tune with no problems just wondering if you used it. Its Unitronic. Thanks Vancity!!
I'd need to know specifically which one you're talking about. There are a few labeled "USE AT YOUR OWN RISK"
@@VancityAudi ok it’s the one with 10 psi. There’s also a 12 psi but I’m on the 10
@skywalk3x ohhhh, those. Basically that ramps up your boost on launch. Too much boost on an unprepped surface will more than likely cause excessive wheelspin. The other factor would be launching with more boost on launch is more likely to break something.
@@VancityAudi I tell you Vancity you’re so generous with your time to answer some questions. You’ve answered me now a few times even when I wasn’t directly asking you. I’ve been on UA-cam for years and I subscribe to a lot of channels and you’ve been one of the best UA-camrs because I feel you generally want to help people. I appreciate everything you do yo your videos to just being a nice guy. Thanks so much and you have a subscriber for life!
@@skywalk3xI really appreciate the kind words! Just know that I'm actually an a$$hole in real life, and this online persona is just a trick! Thanks for watching!
Any update coming soon
Trying to get a video out this week!
@@VancityAudi where’s the vid at 🙏
@bmw_for_life8902 sorry!!! I haven't been able to get anything done yet. Been dealing with a lot lately.
@@VancityAudi waiting for Adam and RS3 content!
@@VancityAudi still waiting on that video hope all is well with you in yr personal life ended up tuning my mk8 gti with 034 stage 1 91 based on yr video love the tune
The logs are everywhere already
Then everyone can go find them themselves
you can run straight E85 in a MK8 GTI with only a tune? impressive
That applies to almost all new performance VAG cars nowadays
Does the same apply to the B9 S4 or do you need to make some hardware upgrades before running straight E85?
@BrandonVallas same thing applies. Tune the car to run ethanol, dump it in and go.
@@VancityAudi which car do you enjoy driving more the B9 s4 or the Rs3?
@@BrandonVallasthe RS3 by a MILE!
Good stuff, Adam.
Thanks!
How long until all the tune providers have their TCU files ready?
The TCU will remain locked until someone cracks the 401 bootloader. There is no timeline available.
Any issues with the DSG and all that extra power ? any hiccups or error codes?
My DSG wasn't happy with any of the ethanol tunes until I performed a basic settings adaptation of the transmission. It drives much better now, but I'm not sure it will stay that way with the torque level of these tunes.
@@VancityAudi Oh damn. I was going to go with the APR stage 1 87 low torque tune because of the warranty. Did the lower power/torque tunes feel any better?
@iankerr6526 the 87 and 91 low octane APR tunes felt solid
@@VancityAudi no weird shifts or hiccups?
@VancityAudi so close to pulling the trigger on the stage 1 from APR
How would they work on Co-op E63 ?
As I mentioned in the video, all of these tunes work using E60 - E80, but most tuners prefer E70ish.
what did unitronic prefer?
Work of gods ! You are the man !
Thanks for watching!