FIRST TIME WATCHING | Alien: Covenant (2017) | Movie Reaction | David is a Psycho
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- Опубліковано 13 жов 2024
- In this Episode, Mrs. Movies watches the second prequel of the Alien Franchise & Prometheus Sequel, Alien: Covenant from 2017.
We also go deep into thinking about the Alien Franchise as a whole after wrapping up the movie, with an in-depth discussion on the Alien origins.
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they idea i think what Ridly is trying to tell is creator creates man, man kill God man creates David ,David kills man .
Yeah, there are less movies about creating colonies than some lame plot about criminals killing people on a colony or some random monsters killing colonists. The only thing I can think of is the TV series Earth 2 but that had a bunch of weird creepy aliens and in-fighting for basic supplies.
Star Trek had a bunch of episodes that had the crew visiting colonies on other worlds but they always went into weird plots pretty much.
Pandorum is a creepy horror film as well.
Y'all should react to the newer Lost in Space series. It is exactly what the Ms. wants.
MAKE HIM BLEED HIS BLOOD MILK! -JC
Shaw didn't want to find the Engineer's planet to kill them. She wanted to know why the Engineer's wanted to kill the human race. David was the one that decided to kill the Engineer's on this planet.
She was quite dumb thinking they'd have any interest in answering her theological questions. She wasn't smart enough to figure out that humans were just _raw material_ for their bioweapon.
Technically, these are more like Engineer offshoots. Compare them to the ones in Prometheus, and the ones that showed up here look more primitive and… “human” compared to the near perfect beings from Prometheus; conclusion could be made that this was a Engineer colony world.
They are not Engineer's. They are one of creation like Us.
well i think i know why the engineers wanted to end the human race, search "ice cream so good" and u'll know too,they probably saw in advance
"Engineers" = plural, "Engineer's" = possessive. What they found here was another species the Engineers created, more similar to themselves. They have slightly different physical features.
Actually, the novelization for Covenant clarifies that David merely created his own variant of Xenomorphs (dubbed Protomorphs) and based them on Xenomorph specimens the Engineers had already created.
Even the deleted scene called David's workshop shows what he mixed with the black goo to give the creature's new enhancements, plus shows the original face hugger egg that gave David his idea
Wait there’s a novelization?
Alec Acquino, by that logic you're excluding HUGE amounts of additional materials to all twelve Alien/Predator films. Engineers created Xenomorphs. Period.
@@thedeepfriar745 Yep.
Won't lie, I preferred the old stuff where they were a natural organism and it's implied their acid blood is meant to discourage predation on whatever hell world they originated on.
Alan covenant must be the director seriously, i was taking a drink of beer when you said that now I'm cleaning my carpet, thanks for making me laugh so hard though
Haha. Sorry!
Can you imagine Ripley finding out a Dam Android is the reason Xenomorphs exist. She's turning in her grave. Lol!
She's alive
@@Tenchi707she was cloned
Oh cool she likes space movies. I recommend Pandorum and Event Horizon.
Ohhhh Event Horizon. I’m putting that on our list for sure.
She says "no scary part" and you mention Pandorum? LOL
@@JeshuaSquirrel nah event horizon is a nightmare, like a trauma to a 10 year old once upon a time, based on a true story from me, scary af 😂
@@INDAMOMENTFilms Event Horizon has some great horror moments, too.
@@JeshuaSquirrel Event Horizon is gory, but it's so predictable. I saw it in the cinema and the ending was obvious way too early on.
maybe against popular opinion, but Alien: Covenant for me is top three after Alien and Aliens
Seriously, I don't know what else would qualify for third best. This one really does if for me. David is a great character.
Nah, alien 3 was a great send off for Ripley.
@@earlmcraw5606 But a pretty terrible send-off for Hicks and Newt. I think that film would've been so much more warmly received if the ship had just ejected Ripley, and Hicks and Newt had just sailed on blissfully unaware.
@@Corn_Pone_Flicks it wAs heartbreaking but it added to the atmosphere of tragedy.
Honestly for me it goes: Alien, Aliens, Prometheus
I love Prometheus an Covenant and i'm so happy, that someone else understands the story and what Ridley creates, not just complaining "oh, the crew are stupid, 2/10". Thanks for the honest reaction)
It doesn't help that they're stupid, but yeah obviously there's way more good than bad.
@@ravissary79 most of the movie's "bad parts" is bad cutting from studio, answers hidden in the script and some in the blu-ray parts) all this stupid crew in Prometheus and Covenant isnt a coincedence)
@@tyler_dtm I wouldn't mind seeing a fleshed out explanation other than "its a horror movie, so they don't realize the cost of their incidental stupidity" type reasoning.
@@ravissary79 nope) Prometheus crew was sabbotaged by Vickers, crew of dumbasses was prepared by her for fail Prometheus mission, Vickers wants her father Peter Wayland die, there is a long story of relations between them. Covenant crew was orginized by Wayland company, you may find this cutted episode of group checking of emotional problems and fear, this was not a colonisation mission, company knows about David and they want his "creations" (this episod with David also in UA-cam) and they send him meat to work with, sheeps for the wolf. Captain Franko death was'nt random too) google Blu-ray episodes if you don't belive me) or find the script, it has all the answers)
I love the story in this but i feel like Guy in "Galaxy Quest" in a few scenes, just like
"YOU DON'T JUST OPEN THE DOOR ON AN ALIEN PLANET!"
The Alien franchise is just a Wayland-Yutani safety film series. "this is why quarantine procedures are important" "this is why you read the expert's mission briefing" "this is why you wear your helmet on an unexplored world"
26:34 In fact...there is a very awesome game ALIEN ISOLATION...is the story of Ripley's daughter...i wish you could react to a gameplay of it...it's absolutely fantastic.
"All because fuck*ng David* HAHAHAHAAHAHA her reaction is gold
This film could have been great if it was an hour longer and developed the characters and creatures better
At least 30 minutes
I would not have wanted another hour of this film.
@@SeanTube2099 Would you have liked another hour of Prometheus, instead?
@@liamroberts1458 both Prometheus and Covenant were disappointing. I’d take another hour of Alien or Aliens.
I do like all the alien films, including the avp crossovers, and these two also. The AI angle of humanity's destruction is somewhat overused, prometheus and alien covenant are deeper philosophically and metaphysically, but the concept of robotics and AI becoming our enemies, which boils down to slaves overthrowing the masters premise, actually started a hundred years ago with the silent film metropolis, was refined and tweaked with the terminator films and the matrix films. Ironically, because of Ridley's current trajectory, alien 2 and 4 are much stronger films now because they show androids at having a chance at redemption. Just my humble opinion.
Good point, but you mention slaves overthrowing the masters, but don't mention _Bladerunner_ ? not quite AI, but replicants were resentful of being slaves, like any sentient being would be.
Allan Covenant is my favourite director of all time!! lol
"Ambulate" is the fancy word for "walk".
10:19 Not sure if this has been answered in the comments but as far as why the Engineers were trying to send the black goo to Earth in Prometheus is not officially explained in the movies and left open for interpretation, but there was an idea that they had but was left out of the script due to it being a bit controversial in the religious aspect. From what I read online, initially the Engineers were using the black goo of their creators in a ceremony to create life on planets. They use their own DNA with the help of the black goo to spawn life. The planets had everything the humans needed to live in harmony on this paradise they created for them. Well humans being humans, we messed up the planet and became this imperfect creation in the Engineers eyes. They saw there was no hope for us so they decided to send the black goo to earth to reset life on earth. Before doing so they gave them one last chance for redemption by sharing the secrets to paradise to an individual to save the human race and earth, but we ended up crucifying him. Had this been left in, it probably would have made more sense of the Engineers actions. After Covenant, there was supposed to a third movie that would end where Alien begins when they find the space jockey (the engineer) in the cockpit with his chest bursted out.
"I`ll do the fingering" is one of the best lines ever. The whole audience gave a giggle. Covenant annoyed e the first time but enjoyed it so much more the second time. Is "vastly worse" something we can get trending? The Alien series is a wonderful sequel factory. Great works, really enjoy your work.
22:36 when the mother informs there's an unidentified life in the ship
22:45 the android touch his? mouth
24:42 now i know why...
Brilliant...
I believe that the face hugger that was on the dudes face for a minute was able to implant an egg into him.
It feels like I'm watching an Alexa answer questions to a drunk human for 36 minutes lol.
Actually, I think the embryos are animals for the colony. It's like Noah's Ark!
No, they’re colonists. Scott discusses it in the extras.
"Allen Covenant, must be the director." That got me laughing for some reason.
I personally really hope Ridley Scott gets to do his final movie, which I've not heard much about lately. I'm really curious about one particular detail: in Alien, it's clear that the Company already knows about the creature before the Nostromo crew finds it, because there's that special directive that only the science officer can see which says that the retrieval of the specimen is top priority-crew expendable, which pretty much nails that they already knew what the specimen was. We also are told that Ash wasn't the regular science officer on the ship and had been swapped in at the last minute just before they shipped out, so what I want to know is, were Ash and David in cahoots? They both say the same thing about the alien being a "perfect organism," and I wonder if it may have been David who had that special order sent to the ship, to find and retrieve his pets. Even if that's not it, Fassbender is the best thing about the new films, and I really want to see his story concluded.
You're right, they definitely knew, and picked an expendable crew to check it out. How they knew is never disclosed. I hope they don't just milk it for a lazy ending. It deserves an interesting conclusion. I thought Prometheus was setting one up, but Covenant just ran to the safety of a mediocre space slasher adding little new to the story.
Cmon, just 2 alien movies left. They are not that bad.
I think we will get to them eventually. Maybe before the new TV show premieres. She’s a little alien-ed out right now haha
@@YouMeTheMovies 😁👽
@@YouMeTheMovies She will hate Alien 3 within the first ten minutes and we all know why.
@Ricardo Alonso Rojas 3 is decent but 4 is just ridiculous
I think the issue is that Ridley Scott decided to create answers to questions that needed no answers. He’s slowly getting rid of the mystery that made the original movies so interesting because we never knew why anything was where it was. It added to the horror.
I think the issue is that few people realize that Ridley Scott has outright stated that the "David" movies are an alternate universe timeline. Thus, it can deviate off to not even loop around to the fist movie, if he wants. Personally, I think it's good that he took that route, so that he's not retconning the entire expanded universe that grew up around his initial creation. He's simply adding to it with different branch.
@@vladyvhv9579 honestly saying something is in an alternate universe is just lame
everyone wants answers bro tf u on about 😭
people asked the question so he gave the answers, you didn’t want the answers and that’s okay but a lot of people did
@@ragthegamerlike people have been asking questions since 79 lmfao
She's gotta see "The Thing"
part of the bringing the embryos is the 40 400 rule, 40 different genetics for short term survivor but 400 or more for long term new colony.
Lmao "why does this always happen" great intro bits
Fun fact: an engineer's body shows up in the recent Bladerunner sequel in the scene where they have a Hall of Bodies.
A graphic and sound effect from Alien made it onto Blade Runner.
Nice when the industry keeps little traditions going like that.
Embryos?
"Yeah, theres like 1200 of em in there"
When I watched Alien: Resurrection in the theater the theater I went to had a guy dressed in an Alien costume walk into the theater in the middle of the movie, he entered one side of the theater, walked down to the front, across to the other side and up to that sides exit.
I feel a bit guilty because the most amusing moments were when Mrs. would get scared, hide her face, or even be speechless and could only make sounds. 😅 I'd never think I would enjoy somebody talking that much during a movie! 😂 I love your videos! I send greetings from Argentina!
Y'all might have a different take on the theme of this and the previous movie if you happen to know that Mary Shelley's 1818 book 'Frankenstein' had a longer full title "Frankenstein : The Modern Prometheus"
In _Covenant_ David is acting like Dr. Frankenstein.
In Prometheus we can see several analogies. Whatever built the lab on LV 223 was a kind of Frankenstein, and the big humanoids doing the dirty work are _Igor_ , making trips to Earth to collect more bodies every few centuries.
Weyland created a new type of life with David, so while he sees himself as like the Greek Prometheus, he is more like Dr. Frankenstein.
Shaw actually tried to reanimate a head using a jolt of electricity.
There's no Igor in Shelley's novel.
@@blipbobeep8345 True, he's from the movies.
The embryo thing is to get around the problem of people aging during space flight. Even at light speed you would be traveling for decades sometimes, and traveling lower than light speed it would take even loooooonger
Here's a couple other space movies you might like.
Sunshine
Supernova
Ariana
Pitch Black
Apparently, Disney is now moving forward with an Alien TV series, since they bought the Fox film catalog. I hope they answer lingering questions.
I love your reactions-You both play off each other well
This is my favorite James Franco film, but Michael Fassbender is the actor whose performance really puts Alien: Covenant over the top.
Hey! Are you guys gonna do Species 1995 and its sequels? How many HR Giger movies are you guys gonna do?
Probably.
She has to watch Brain-dead by Peter Jackson. Her reaction will be fun.
I first watched that while eating fried chicken with my mate. Biggest mistake of our lives. 😂
@@mastery7901 "I kick arse for the Lord!"
@@mastery7901 That movie totally ruined my appetite for dessert for years haha.
This would have happened to Kirk and Spock everytime they went down to a planet without space suits.
No cuz they scan the planet
You know what really works with these type of video's is when one of the characters with the cowboy hat doesn't spill the entire plot in the first 5 mins.
I think you should check out "The Expanse". Seems like it's right up your alley.
That's on our list to tackle someday.
@@YouMeTheMovies It's a great series, IMO.
Apollo 1 basically caught on fire and all 3 crew died during a launch test.
So yeah, completely possible for that fire in the pod.
Gosh, I love you both 😊❤ watching you for over 2 years now. Keep up the good Videos, greetings from Germany ❤
I enjoyed this commentary more the movie itself.
You should watch the movie "Life".
It's exactly in the same vein
I really wanted Neill blomkamp to do his Alien 5, which was going to retcon Alien 3 and Resurrection. He was basically going to follow the story right from where Aliens left off, but rather than crash on the prison planet in Alien 3, they got back to base, which means newt and hicks would have been still alive.
Ripley was also meant to have made an alien suit to blend in. They also were going to put the engineer ship within the grasps of the Weyland Corp and study it. Sounds soo much better than what we go with alien 3 and resurrection. If ridley did is last prequel movie (alien awakening) and Neill did his alien 5, we'd have a more stuck together storyline and would have come full circle to complete the franchise the way it should have been.
If you Google neill blomkamp alien 5 concept art, you'll see what I mean.. Such wasted potential.
Now Disney are going to ruin this franchise and water it down with their alien TV show 😞😞
That doesn't sound credible though. Ripley is not a soldier, and she does _not_ want to mess with these things. Why after missing most of her daughter Amy's life, would she then head off into space and risk missing a normal life with Newt?
@@jimbobeire her daughter was already dead at this point remember?. She was told at the start of Aliens. Also Newt by this point would have grown up according to the script and Hicks would be with Ripley and Newt training them as soldiers. Hicks already trained up Ripley as a soldier in Aliens. Also Niell Blomkamps Alien 5 was going to happen, it just didn't get pushed forward. It's a simple Google search away. Just type in Neill Blomkamp Alien 5. Also MrH Reviews, here on UA-cam has shown some of the concept art for that movie, so it was actually in development, but got shut down because Ridley Scott wanted to do his prequel movies instead.
Try researching a little before hand.
Seems like you have never seen an Alien film in your life. I suggest you revisit these movies and look more in depth with them cause I shouldn't have to explain this.
P.s. type in alien 5 concept art in Google and you'll see Ripleys alien suit.
@@abrimfulofasha Yes, I remember her being told her daughter was dead in her 60's. Ripley was supposed to be back for Amy's 11th birthday, so as I wrote... she missed most of Amy's life.
Seems like you jump to conclusions by not understanding what other people are writing. Try working on that.
I've seen the concept art. I've worked on three movies. I know the difference between development and what makes it to production. Like I said, I don't think they could have made a credible script that fits with the character established in the first two movies.
It might have made money, but it would probably have been taking the character doing the comic book route just like Alien Resurrection did.
@@jimbobeire MrH Reviews just released a video about the plot, which is convenient. Haven't watched it yet myself, but I suppose we now have our answer.
And yes I meant development, I got a little mixed up.
I really think it would have been a decent movie and as a fan of many Alien fans, I share the same thought of wanting Newt and Hicks to stay alive, inwhich Blomkamp wanted to do. He's a visionary in my eyes and would have made it work. Can't wait for his first pure horror he's bringing out in August called Demonic.
So, what films have you worked on?
@@jimbobeire just watched the video and the story fits quite well. Seems like they wanted to expand upon the xenomorph methos and create different variants of them. Either way, the movie sounded great and refreshing. And how can say they'd go the comic book route like resurrection, even though blomkamp had already stated that he wanted to get away from all of that? Doesn't make sense dude. He wants to be true to the characters established in the first two movies, why on earth do you think he wants to retcon Alien 3 and Resurrection? He wants to deter away from that garbage and stay true the source material, whilst throwing some of his own ideas in.
"That tea is like five feet away from him."
That was the whole point. That one scene both nailed him down as an asshole, and showed how the Artificials are being made as a new slave race.
There is actually a Special Feature on the DVD {IIRC} that is basically a commercial for the new product line......
For a different franchise with alien creatures, I highly recommend watching the Riddick trilogy. Besides this, Prometheus and 300, Michael Fassbender also stars in Inglorious Basterds and the X-Men prequel films. For a more immersive experience, I recommend playing Alien: Isolation, which is a direct sequel to Alien
I've always been confused by the first introduction of the Engineers in Alien, where the corpse is so old it has mummified into the gunner chair, which would take countless years, but Covenant introduces the idea that David created the egg pods not that long before the start of Alien.
I think the theory is the Nostromo crew were wrong in their observation of the Engineer and mistook their space suit as their skin. I think their suit is organic or grown or something and might resemble something fossilized. Also, they weren’t really scientists. Just freighters. Ash the “science officer” never even examined it.
It still bugs me that the Space Jockey from Alien was clearly much larger than the Engineers depicted in Prometheus. The one in Alien appeared to be at least 12 feet tall. Then in Covenant when the Engineer people are gathered below, they look different still. I think the most likely explanation is that they have consciously developed themselves into different castes through genetic engineering. Well maybe that's the second most likely explanation. The first most likely is lazy continuity.
I think the flashback of David wiping out the Engineers shows there were different castes and different sizes of them. Like the ones from Prometheus are bred for war and are bigger and higher muscle mass and the one from Alien could have been a big time General or something.
With David having been the creator of the facehugger eggs the question is why would a space jockey have a ship full of em unless the fossilized one from the first movie is really just a space jockey suit with a dead David or human character inside from events we haven't seen yet
@@warevampire66692 The Mrs. and I were talking about this today in the car. There were obviously other wishbone ships at the Engineers city. They seemed to be welcoming David home at first until he dropped the payload. In the 10 years he was there working his gene-splicing magic he could have eventually filled a couple of the ships with eggs and sent them on crash courses around the universe. But that still leaves the question of the Space Jockey. Or maybe another Engineer warship arrived during that 10 years, after David had created the eggs and he planted eggs on his ship while the Engineer explored David's destruction before deciding to leave in a hurry, later finding the eggs himself and having his moment. Or an engineer found the eggs and put them on his ship after David left with the Covenant. Lots a fan-fiction ideas to be had. Haha
The engineers experimenting on us is probably for the same reason that we experiment on animals.
The first time I saw Michael was in a british show called Hex where he plays an evil fallen angel Azazeal who falls for the main character who is a witch. I love him as an actor and he's always amazing.
It makes sense that the aliens evolved from humans because their teeth are a like like us and the body is some what humalike as well so that didn't bother me all that much. There is a new movie being made just don't know when it's coming out and what the story will be just yet.
I wonder what kind of effect marvel's vita radiation would have in conjunction with the black liquid.
Like, would it stabilize the dna while it's being rewritten? And if so, what kind of mutation would come of it when it's done..? (IF it's ever even "done", that is.)
With Ridley Scott working on multiple projects right now it doesn't look like we will be seeing a third installment in the near future, if ever.
same even if he's the producer it's Disney's decision. Because we have a tv show on FX and a different film than his coming around the same time. Even if this is sold to another company we may never see this third film unless both the tv show and separate film do well.
This is why you don't walk on alien planets without hazmat suits
I'm still cracking up at how mad the Mrs. is at the events of this movie as they are playing out. We can't get to Alien without the sh!t hitting the fan, so you just gotta deal with it lol
I find it funny that she seems to forget that oxygen is combustible when all throughout “Alien” all she could talk about is how they’re smoking in an oxygen rich environment
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Guy Pierce also appeared on iron man 3,lock out and time Machine which I love that movie
Love the cowboy Godzilla in the background
Are we ever going to get one more Alien film to finish out the alien covenant story that will answer the question about the ship on LV426 ?
A suggestion: If Mrs. Movies loves Scifi based colonization, then she is gonna love The Expanse! Get to it Cowboy! You both are gonna love it.
The Expanse is on our list of shows to watch.
I was so excited for Prometheus because the marketing campaign was fantastic-Only reference to Alien was the name of the company. It kicked off with that TEDtalk Guy Pearce’s character gives, then included commercial-like snippets by David about things by Weyland, etc.
As I finished Prometheus, I do think it would have served the film 1,000x better leaving any and every connection out and letting the audience discover those things. Not much of the film stuck with me, however, two moments that absolutely did were when Shaw got inside the medical pod and then when they running from the crashing ship and everyone ever asks the question, “run to the side, why aren’t you running away from the ship?”
If y’all are readers, there are a bunch of Alien audiobooks I suggest checking out, (the Alien Covenant audiobook takes place just before the film-in fact, most of it leads up to the launch.) Also, you may like Kim Stanley Robinson’s Aurora if you want these kinds of stories but without the scary alien bits.
If y’all are readers, there are a bunch of Alien audiobooks I suggest checking out? Are you sure you don't mean listeners?
Have you kept track of human history? We’re not great. Though not included in the movie I believe Ridley Scott confirmed a concept as having happened in the universe of these movies. After seeing humans not exactly acting ideally, the engineers sent down one of their own to try and put them back on the right path. And he got crucified. Jesus was an engineer.
I’m not denying the overt sexual themes, but fingering is the accurate term.
There’s a bonus video on the blu ray of david talking about his lab and experiments and his plans to make a queen
The novelization includes an unused scene with a fossilized facehugger egg and David says they’re an engineer creation, which many people believed to be the case. So he made the xenos based on what the engineers created. However novelizations often have unsused or deleted stuff that ends not being treated as canon. And I think Ridley confirms in his commentary that David is in fact the creator of the xenomorphs.
Such an interesting take on the origin. One I definitely didn't even consider. Thank you for the mind blowing addition to this origin story.
@@MrsMovies Scott is known for throwing in red herrings though. There's nothing on screen to back up the notion of Jesus the Engineer, nor of them wanting to wipe us out. That last one is one of Shaw's assumptions, much like the assumption that the cave paintings were invitations for later humans to find, rather than a depiction of tribal humans.
If you rewatch Prometheus, I'd suggest keeping these themes in mind, slavery, abduction, dodgy experiments to make and control lifeforms, and the long standing theme of the Xeno as a bioweapon.
The whole Greek myth of Prometheus is a bit of a red herring. It may be how Weyland sees himself, as a 'modern prometheus' but you go google 'Modern Prometheus' and you'll quickly discover that Mary Shelley's 1818 horror story 'Frankenstein' has the full title "Frankenstein : The Modern Prometheus' .
Weyland made David.
Shaw even has a scene where she tries to reanimate a dead head using a jolt of electricity into thinking ' it's alive ' .
And in Covenant, David is full on mad scientist.
Another link to Mary Shelley is that the same month her 'Frankenstein' novel was published, her husband Percy Bysshe Shelley had his poem "Ozymandias" published. That's the poem David quotes in _Covenant_ but misattributes to Byron instead, and Walter corrects him.
The abudction, rather than invitation is also there, unmentioned. Look at the cave drawings, and also the dates of them. Sure 35000 years ago we were _all_ tribal . But look at the later cave paintings the most recent one was Hawai'i in the 7th century. Those visits continued to isolated tribes long after other places had cities, writing, etc.
So, if it's a benevolent race just popping down to say hi, why visit isolated tribes... who happen to offer human sacrifice as 'tribute' to their sky gods?
That crude drawing was a depiction of something the tribe _witnessed_ .
Also, the map? It's from a UFO abduction story from the 1950s. Betty and Barney Hill claim to have been taken to Zeta Reticuli. That's the system where the Nostromo first encounters the Xeno in the original _Alien_ movie.
The next dot over in that map is the star Gliese 81, which is 34.5 light years from Earth, and that matches the distance given in Prometheus to LV 223.
So putting that together, and the fact that the long tunnel from the urn chamber connects with the ship at the _cargo_ bay, rather than the bridge, should give you an idea of whether or not those ships were coming back empty or not.
Also, you saw that Engineer had no problem running across the surface of LV 223 without a helmet, so why the super clean air in the dome? That's to stop the tribal human cargo from passing out and dying before they get to stand in front of an urn and stare at/ pray to the giant stone head while the black liquid oozes onto their bare feet. What happened to Fifield is a big clue as to the purpose of that place, he was not yet fully mutated, but his attack was exactly the type of frenzied athletic attack that a lone Xeno would have made (minus the acid, tail and second set of jaws) . He was even killed off the way Ripley would have done it. Remember how she drove over a Xeno with the APC in _Aliens_ ? That plus the giant Xeno skull on the dome, the Xeno carved on the wall, and the depiction of a humanoid mutating on the ceiling (like H.R. Giger reimagined the Sistene Chapel ceiling 'creation of Adam' ) .
The horror of Prometheus is that, without telling you, it shows you that humans are _raw material_ for this monster. It doesn't have a home planet because it's always been a tailor made bioweapon. Nothing that nasty would survive long as a species because it multiplies too fast, kills everything around it, and runs out of food.
Add to that is the horror, that Shaw (for religious reasons, and wanting to believe she can be reunited with her dead parents) and Weyland (desperate to grasp at straws to cheat death) refuse to see what they've stumbled onto because they 'choose to believe' an entirely different scenario.
Shaw finds a 100% DNA match with the 'Engineer' and makes an unsupported conclusion that it is proof that 'they' created 'us' rather than the logical conslusion ... this thing _is_ human. That DNA match could also be explained by these things being a slave caste bred from abducted humans, altered to be bigger, stronger, less individual looking, and incorporating biomechanical implants to interface with ship technology and also tolerate much more toxic air than normal humans. They work in a dangerous lab on a desolate moon... occasionally visiting Earth to fetch more bodies. They are basically _Igor_ , doing the work, then sleeping until their master wakes them for the next mission. I was hoping _Covenant_ would reveal who their master is, but their _master_ might be long dead for all we know.
So, if you think any of that makes sense.... then Shaw, at the end of Prometheus, is still convinced that she should go 'talk to the manager' to have her theological questions answered.... when it's more likely these things were kidnappers, DNA tampering, warmongering slavemasters who have no interest in Shaw's questions.
Shaw cannot contemplate humans as being anything other than central to the plot, either as the product of a benevolent god (Garden of Eden), or as the target of its wrath (Armageddon). The idea that in a cold, indifferent universe, something could be picking off tribes of humans as nothing more than raw material... that just conflicts with everything that she 'chooses to believe'.
27:00 STAR TREK. you want star trek. -JC
Just like with Prometheus, the unfilmed scenes of the original script provide more insight into the engineers and their motivations. Thats propably why they were left out of the movie in the end. They reveal too much. There is an unfilmed scene in which David gives the crew of the Covenant sort of a sight -seeing tour of the engineer city. He reveals much of what he has learned about them in his years alone on the planet. The engineers were a very spartanic race. Judging by their homes and the city, they had little interest in personal comfort or entertainment but seemingly great interest in fine arts. Their technology, at least on this planet is completely solar powered. He remarks that despite the engineers being a much older civilisation than humanity, our computer technology is much more advanced than theirs. The processing power of the Covenants computers or David himself for example, are several thousand fold more powerful than those of the engineers ships. Thats probably because they never really strived for the greatest technological advancements in automation or AI. They just stopped at the point were the minimum of required usefulness was reached. Instead they focused their civilisatory efforts on advancements in bio-engineering. The black goo was their greatest achievement. Its not a bio weapon , although it can be used as this. Instead, it is an incredibly powerful tool for creating and reshaping life with minimal effort. They've used it to create humanity and other races based on their own DNA. But seemingly humanity was their only true success on creating an advanced civilisation comparable to their own, and their biggest disappointment at the same time. Thats why they seemingly "hated" us and wanted to destroy all life on earth. We did not turned out to be what they hoped we would be and so they decided to make another attempt. And just like David said, sometimes you need to destroy the old first before you can start something new.
@proudofyourroots9575 I was going to say the same thing. There is too much information in an organisms genome for a human to map it alone. This is done by powerful computers. Advancements in AI will create breakthroughs in genetic engineering. There is simply no other way to do this. That's why in Jurassic park it was unrealistic for them to have the computing power back in the 90s to repair DNA that has degraded for 65 million years or more. We still don't have the computing power to do that.
2:43.......NGL that was funny.Cracked me 😂😂
Popcorn is essential. Never forget it! xD
Great reactions. Keep going. Just 2 questions for y’all. 1) how the heck did u get the headphones through the cowboy hat!? 2) can the wife let us know what it was like working with Ray Romano on a successful 90s sitcom? 😬
1) Special Custom Made haha
2) I don’t see the resemblance haha
I'm new and I've watched a few videos already and I love these two...I like the seriousness and you guys don't over do it
As with Prometheus, Alien Covenant has some awesome viral marketing, in the form of two prologues.
The amount of practical props built for both films was incredible; Adam Savage of Mythbusters fame got to visit the set & try on the huge yellow space suits.
Personally, I felt the original concept art for the Protomorph was much more terrifying than what made it to the scene.
I really hope we get to see Ridley Scotts third film in this prequel trilogy & how it will link to the original Alien film.
I have a feeling that David may become the pilot / space jockey the crew of the Nostromo find on the juggernaut. Was he travelling back to Earth with his precious cargo, only to crash on LV-426 (which is the sister planet to the one in Prometheus)?
Regarding the stasis pod fire; the Apollo 1 tragedy occurred for a very similar reason. Oxygen & nylon igniting due to an electrical fault & then the hatch was unable to be opened due to the internal pressure.
i'm glad this movie exists, for one reason.
"i do the fingering."
i laughed about that line for a whole week with a friend of mine. like every second sentence was, i do the whatever even if it didn't fit, and we laughed our asses off.
David was not the creator of the Xenos. In Prometheus, the original Xeno is depicted in a mural. Which means that the Engineers themselves have already encountered it long before humans. As a matter of fact, they might have existed even before the Engineers.
Again, in Prometheus, Shaw gives "birth" to a tentacle monster. That's simply a much bigger "facehugger", designed to be able to overpower the much stronger Engineers, and plant the Xeno seed inside them, thus giving "birth" to a very ancient form of Xeno.
Now, how do we get from the original, huge facehugger, to the small ones, is unknown.
Ridley scott made an HBO TV show called "Raised by Wolves" awesome 1st season, 2nd not so much but it got cancelled. It has this Creation theme. Scott likes this theme apparently.
Hold up... She WAS joking when she said "Allen Covenant, that's gotta be the director" or something to that effect right??? 🤣🤣🤣
Yeah. That’s a joke. 😂
@@YouMeTheMovies thank goodness... I'm listening while I'm working and I've only watched a few of your videos so I wasn't certain. And the camera didn't show your reaction to what she said so I was like "hold up" lol
A cool detail about the androids is - A sh - B ishop - C all - D avid
Omg. Perfect timing. Just finished the previous film reaction 😁👍
When you said Ailan and instantly reminded me of that one episode from charborg
I Believe the Missing Link To The Story Line is The Conflicts and Battles Between The Engineers and The Predator Race... Both Using The Aliens. Troy from Atlantic City
Yes the Benjamin button lookin old man was guy Pearce under all that make up 😂
3:47 Thats your MO :D
its much better now , Mrs. came a long way :P
I liked Prometheus a ton more. The Engineers’ story, the birth of mankind, was a deeper tale to tell, a new direction. I hear Ridley Scott will return to the Engineer storyline to complete the new trilogy.
I think Alien Covenant was interesting, but it would have been more interesting if we saw the film from David’s viewpoint, but without explaining what he did in the past, so we could learn about his evilness and the things he’d done from a different perspective. It would be us, as David, observing and interacting with the Covenant’s crew.
David's protomorphs vs the engineer's biomechanical xenomorphs
Oh! Deep! “Is it even alien if we helped create it somehow?”
Yeah no, that shit’s alien.
Mrs Movies: No, no no God! Why does this always happen?!
I really appreciate you all reacting to these latter two alien films. Prometheus is so underrated and this one was good too. Really enjoy this new storyline with David. Mega props to your wife for getting through the tough, scary parts. She is a trooper!
Also you gotta have popcorn to enjoy your movies it's just part of the experience.
You all should react/review Life with Ryan Reynolds. Pretty much similar theme but a really good movie.
Love your reactions! 😊👍👍
I like this storyline. I know a lot of people felt disappointed by this, again, expecting something completely different, but if you have an open mind, it's actually a pretty cool sci-fi story that makes you think about things, instead of just straight up serving you the answers.
I agree right it brings things full circle that the humans created the AI in the AI created the aliens thought-provoking material instead of just special effects and noise that we get these days
It was also James Franco best performance! 🤣🤣🤣
Ill do the fingering lol
If david had a love song for shaw, Walter and Daniel's..... anyone else think: is this love by white snake is fitting or something more classical?
They should've worn special suits while they were exploring
I love Prometheus, I was so into what Scott was setting up.
Consequently, Covenant is, in my opinion, the absolute low point in the entire Alien-franchise, just like how The Predator was the lowest point of the Predator-franchise and AvP: Requiem was for AvP.
I love Prometheus and Covenant more than other movies in this franchise.
Really hope Ridley finishes this David trilogy.
I can see her as a character on this movie cussing out David
I didnt even hear the popcorn, i thought it was a nice edition lol but if she is annoyed.. maybe not
david didnt created the xenomorph's, david was just experimenting with the aliens. its either the engineers created the aliens or the aliens was created by themselves through evolution on xenomorph prime, a planet of their own.
I would go with this especially since an Alien skull is seen as a trophy in the eighties Predator 2 movie.
If you haven't played Alien: Isolation yet, I highly recommend it! I still get frightened whenever a large leaf comes skittering towards me like a facehugger. 😂
I was shocked she likes Prometheus enough to want to watch Covenant, especially after nearly drop-kicking hubby for having her watch Aliens. A bit of a masochistic streak in this girl, I think. For me, the franchise begins and ends with the first two films. After that, the franchise falls off a cliff.
i like Prometheus too, now you can be shocked again
I like Ridley Scott's films.
Actually, the franchise began to sway since Cameron's, Scott's original plan was different from what happened in Aliens (1986). But since Cameron's one was entertaining, people didn't really care about the original plan any longer (what a shame). I still want them to finish this trilogy. I love Scott's directing style.
Prometheus and Covenant despite not sticking the landing are way more interesting and complex than Alien & Aliens
@@itsjinxnow4814 they are cool movies for sure but Alien and Aliens are way better
No way! Covenant, and A, As, A3, Resurrection on the list too! 👍
Fun Movies that come to mind if you have not seen:
Ghostbusters 👻
Indiana Jones
Life of Pi
Happy Gilmore 🏌️♂️
She's seen all of those but Life of Pi. I think she was wearing a Ghostbusters shirt for Alien even. I walked to the alter to marry her to the Raiders March. Haha!
once again,i love these two lol.
so... i thought they really missed a trick by making the 'deacon' all smooth and shiny, and the 'alien' aliens all cybernetic looking. Seems to me that the weirdly textured aliens should have come from the 'armored' engineers (like the space jockey), and thus look like the bio-mechanical aliens we all know and love. The smooth balloony looking engineers should really have birthed the smooth pale 'deacon' aliens, no? Am i the crazy one?
I had hoped for a Xenos vs David's Xenos Seeing David's Xenos fail to the one the engineers had created.
When I first watched this and found out Shaw died I was immediately bummed and it was difficult for me to even finish it.
And it didn’t help that the female lead replacement was so bland in this one
@@CarloisBuriedAlive theyre both bland, but this one is worse no doubt