@@kid_wond3r170 I did change them! Having everything and all the tools can’t get done in about 6 hours. Make sure you use 13-15 knuckles double check the angles. Sadly only had this “mod” on for 4months before a dumbass didn’t to hit and run the car and total it out sadly
@@luiscortes5858 the car you had was it a Honda civic 2015 lx ? Also did you use all the part that the video showed ?And I am sorry to hear that ,I mean as long you didn’t get hurt that all it matter but I understand I would be upset too .
@@kid_wond3r170 yes sir, 15 lx. Yeah basically all the original bolts you have on the drums fit the new knuckle, the abs sensor also just gets swapped over and as long as you’re able to get the hand brake lines they’ll route the same way. Also the brake lines that goes from the metal ones to the caliper are plug and play
just finished my swap on my dx thank you for the video some pointers from my install its actually easier to put the caliper on first without the hose and then afterwards attach brake hose to bracket bolt and last swap connection to hardline 1) because you dont have to worry about the caliper falling off before its attached 2) when you put the connection first the line tends to twist a little and the bracket that connects to the knuckle doesn’t line up and if you get the bolt through the line ends up a little bent super long but when i finished i thought i ran into the same problem you had with the ebrake cable but it turns out the line was just bent enough that the caliper wasnt retracting when not on brakes causing me to drag on the brakes figured it out and now my dx is closer to becoming an si again thanks a million for the video🎉
Thank you for your tutorial, it helps me a lot I did mind , with no issue ; I got my parts from local pick n pull ( they have a 2012 civic ex sedan took all the parts that mention.
Hey! Just want you to have the peace of mind - your wheels and lugs hold the brake rotor down entirely, those screws are just to help keep the brake rotors flush with their mounting plate when you mount the wheel. If they're uneven, that's when you get brake "warping" (heat will rarely ever be enough to warp your brakes, even in emergency use, in a road car - the cause is actually uneven wear on the rotor)
I checked, each trim seems to have a different part number (even trims that have the same brake configuration). Sometimes the part number changes by year. I haven't had any ABS issues, but that is good to keep in mind if I ever do.
On the base model Honda civics from 2006 to 2011 in order to do a rear disc brake conversion you need to swap out either the rear trailing arms or the control arms to the ones that are on the EX or the EXL so my question to you is do I have to swap the control arms or the trailing arms to get this to work on the 2012 models
Finally got all the parts that I’ll be needing 🤞🏽 went to my lock junkyard that had a 2012 ex and I took all the hardware I would need now just gotta order some brake rotor and pads 💪🏽
Hello, If I buy the knuckles will they fit the trailing and control arms or will I have to swap those out as well? Also, do you know if scarebird brackets meant for the 96-00 civic by chance contain the same bolt pattern for the 2012 civic?
No need to touch the trailing or control arms, they fit regardless of what your car came with, though you will definitely need an alignment after. I have no idea about the Scarebird brackets.
I’ve got an 8th Gen LX and wanted to do this conversion. Do you know if both the EX and SI will fit? I’ve heard they are slightly off. I’m also in Texas, I wish I had a friend with a lift.
I'm not sure. I would probably recommend testing the EX parts over the Si parts, because the Si parts on the 9th gen don't fit the 9th gen LX. You can check trims on HondaPartsNow to see how many part numbers are different. This would be much easier on a lift but as shown in the video, it can be done with just a set of jackstands. If you're in the Austin area, I'd recommend the Austin DIY Shop to rent lift space if you need it.
you are a wealth of knowledge! can you give an estimate of how much all the parts cost, how many hours it took you, and a review of how how the car drives now compared to before? Is there any benefit to this conversion versus upgrading just the front breaks?
I would say expect to pay at least $700 for this upgrade depending on availability of parts, and expect to spend around 10 hours, maybe a bit quicker if you have a lift and power tools. I definitely feel the extra stopping power. Though if I am stopped on a hill and release the brake, the car rolls back a bit more. All trims come standard with front disc brakes already.
In the beginning, you said you are one step away from converting this car into an EX. Besides from the rear drum brakes and the lane assisted side mirror, what else do you need to do? Thinking about converting my 2015 Honda Civic LX into EX then eventually an Si (performance wide) :)
If you're going LX to EX, you'll also need to add push-button start, the touchscreen radio, auto climate control, intermittent wipers (or rain-sensing), and a moonroof. My hybrid already had all of those features but the moonroof. Sounds like a complicated (albeit fun) build!
Thank you! I plan to do this very soon to my car and your video was exponentially helpful. One question though: Can I reuse the old knuckle that came with the car/drum? Just want to ask as you mention “(if you plan to buy new)” in the description for the parts
@@civicminded2141 Alright cool. I have a 2013 4D LX and I was wondering if it would increase or decrease the amount of force I have to put on the brake pedal to achieve the same stopping power, stopping distance, brake responsiveness, etc etc. After all, people usually say that drum brakes are antiquated technology compared to disc brakes. The curb weight of my car is about 2800 pounds and I got about 160 pounds of stuff in the trunk (so about 3230 pounds with me and one passenger in it). Probably not much of a weight difference compared to your hybrid.
Any idea on where to find a conversion Kit for the LX model that includes all parts of would this kit work for the LX too? Do you have a link by any chance?
Expect to pay at least $700 for this. It depends heavily on availability of parts, whether you're buying new or used, and where you get your alignment afterwards.
Finally after 3 months of seeing this video I finally have everything I need for this conversion and will be doing this on my LX 💪🏽
Did you change them ? Want to change mine too .
@@kid_wond3r170 I did change them! Having everything and all the tools can’t get done in about 6 hours. Make sure you use 13-15 knuckles double check the angles. Sadly only had this “mod” on for 4months before a dumbass didn’t to hit and run the car and total it out sadly
@@luiscortes5858 the car you had was it a Honda civic 2015 lx ? Also did you use all the part that the video showed ?And I am sorry to hear that ,I mean as long you didn’t get hurt that all it matter but I understand I would be upset too .
@@luiscortes5858 by any chance you got all the part number or where you got them ?
@@kid_wond3r170 yes sir, 15 lx. Yeah basically all the original bolts you have on the drums fit the new knuckle, the abs sensor also just gets swapped over and as long as you’re able to get the hand brake lines they’ll route the same way. Also the brake lines that goes from the metal ones to the caliper are plug and play
just finished my swap on my dx thank you for the video some pointers from my install its actually easier to put the caliper on first without the hose and then afterwards attach brake hose to bracket bolt and last swap connection to hardline 1) because you dont have to worry about the caliper falling off before its attached 2) when you put the connection first the line tends to twist a little and the bracket that connects to the knuckle doesn’t line up and if you get the bolt through the line ends up a little bent super long but when i finished i thought i ran into the same problem you had with the ebrake cable but it turns out the line was just bent enough that the caliper wasnt retracting when not on brakes causing me to drag on the brakes figured it out and now my dx is closer to becoming an si again thanks a million for the video🎉
Thanks for the tips!
Crazy how many people have a DX. I tell people my car is super rare.
Thank you for providing the rock auto part number. I heart you
Appreciate the video, been wanting to do this for so long and I’ve finally got enough money and time to do this.
Thank you for your tutorial, it helps me a lot I did mind , with no issue ; I got my parts from local pick n pull ( they have a 2012 civic ex sedan took all the parts that mention.
Hey! Just want you to have the peace of mind - your wheels and lugs hold the brake rotor down entirely, those screws are just to help keep the brake rotors flush with their mounting plate when you mount the wheel. If they're uneven, that's when you get brake "warping" (heat will rarely ever be enough to warp your brakes, even in emergency use, in a road car - the cause is actually uneven wear on the rotor)
Thanks for the tip!
I have a civic with 300k on the speedo and rear drums, no issues, works fine.
Awesome video dude! And let me guess automatic windows?
are those knuckles on the description will work on the 2012 lx?
They should.
If you need some knuckles I got some I was going use for my 15 lx but they didn’t fit. Took them off a 12 ex
If I took the drum apart, you thing I’d be able to use the same parking cable for the new calibers??
I don't think so, but you could certainly try. You would need the hook that attaches to the disc caliper.
How come you didn't change out the ABS module? The EX shares a different part number from the drum brake cars.
I checked, each trim seems to have a different part number (even trims that have the same brake configuration). Sometimes the part number changes by year. I haven't had any ABS issues, but that is good to keep in mind if I ever do.
@@civicminded2141 I was just curious cause the 8th gen EX has its own P/N but the LX/DX/GX have the same and they're all drum brake.
@@f32_boost52 Ah- I didn't realize that. Good to know.
Great I am thinking about changing mines to disc brakes
On the base model Honda civics from 2006 to 2011 in order to do a rear disc brake conversion you need to swap out either the rear trailing arms or the control arms to the ones that are on the EX or the EXL so my question to you is do I have to swap the control arms or the trailing arms to get this to work on the 2012 models
Nope. Just the knuckles.
Are there any other parts needed aside from what u listed in the beginning I found a knuckle n calipers but is there anything else I need
All required parts and their numbers are listed in the description.
Life saver I knew you were a g when I saw u doing mechanics in loafers 👞 💪🏽
@@civicminded2141I just got all my parts going to try to convert this Saturday
Awesome video and very informative! Quick question, do you have to calibrate ABS System for all models like LX ? Or just for the Hybrid ?
I would calibrate it for all models.
@@civicminded2141 Copy that, thank you sir!
Finally got all the parts that I’ll be needing 🤞🏽 went to my lock junkyard that had a 2012 ex and I took all the hardware I would need now just gotta order some brake rotor and pads 💪🏽
Hello,
If I buy the knuckles will they fit the trailing and control arms or will I have to swap those out as well? Also, do you know if scarebird brackets meant for the 96-00 civic by chance contain the same bolt pattern for the 2012 civic?
No need to touch the trailing or control arms, they fit regardless of what your car came with, though you will definitely need an alignment after. I have no idea about the Scarebird brackets.
I’ve got an 8th Gen LX and wanted to do this conversion. Do you know if both the EX and SI will fit? I’ve heard they are slightly off. I’m also in Texas, I wish I had a friend with a lift.
I'm not sure. I would probably recommend testing the EX parts over the Si parts, because the Si parts on the 9th gen don't fit the 9th gen LX. You can check trims on HondaPartsNow to see how many part numbers are different.
This would be much easier on a lift but as shown in the video, it can be done with just a set of jackstands. If you're in the Austin area, I'd recommend the Austin DIY Shop to rent lift space if you need it.
you are a wealth of knowledge! can you give an estimate of how much all the parts cost, how many hours it took you, and a review of how how the car drives now compared to before? Is there any benefit to this conversion versus upgrading just the front breaks?
I would say expect to pay at least $700 for this upgrade depending on availability of parts, and expect to spend around 10 hours, maybe a bit quicker if you have a lift and power tools. I definitely feel the extra stopping power. Though if I am stopped on a hill and release the brake, the car rolls back a bit more.
All trims come standard with front disc brakes already.
In the beginning, you said you are one step away from converting this car into an EX. Besides from the rear drum brakes and the lane assisted side mirror, what else do you need to do? Thinking about converting my 2015 Honda Civic LX into EX then eventually an Si (performance wide) :)
If you're going LX to EX, you'll also need to add push-button start, the touchscreen radio, auto climate control, intermittent wipers (or rain-sensing), and a moonroof. My hybrid already had all of those features but the moonroof.
Sounds like a complicated (albeit fun) build!
Thank you! I plan to do this very soon to my car and your video was exponentially helpful. One question though: Can I reuse the old knuckle that came with the car/drum? Just want to ask as you mention “(if you plan to buy new)” in the description for the parts
Thanks! Unfortunately, you can't reuse the old knuckle, drum and disc knuckles are different. I mentioned "if new" because I got my knuckles from LKQ.
How sensitive are the brakes after completing this mod?
They're about the same, maybe slightly less. That may only be in the hybrid though, it will be different for you.
@@civicminded2141 Alright cool. I have a 2013 4D LX and I was wondering if it would increase or decrease the amount of force I have to put on the brake pedal to achieve the same stopping power, stopping distance, brake responsiveness, etc etc. After all, people usually say that drum brakes are antiquated technology compared to disc brakes.
The curb weight of my car is about 2800 pounds and I got about 160 pounds of stuff in the trunk (so about 3230 pounds with me and one passenger in it). Probably not much of a weight difference compared to your hybrid.
Next mod on my list 👍
Any idea on where to find a conversion Kit for the LX model that includes all parts of would this kit work for the LX too? Do you have a link by any chance?
Everything shown in this video will work in the LX.
@@civicminded2141 Thanks! Also can you use front disc knuckles on the rear or did you have to specifically find Rear Knuckles?
@@corn_puffs1267 You have to find rear knuckles. Front knuckles are completely different.
Thanks👍
How much it cost to convert into disk brakes??
Expect to pay at least $700 for this. It depends heavily on availability of parts, whether you're buying new or used, and where you get your alignment afterwards.
Awesome man 4sure I'm doing mine
Great video thank you . Other than that your accent gave me goosebumps 😂 and made me sleepy lol
Before you do that brake test, you better break in those brake pads or you'll screw those rotors up