I have the 915TKL but I am looking for an upgrade, I really like the feeling of it but do you think that going for the wooting would be a worth upgrade? This is so expensive which is what makes me hesitant
Didn't work for me either until I did a reset of the keyboard. But try making a new profile. On my old profiles the rapid trigger don't work. If that doesn't work try a reset, Settings (Gear icon top right) -> Reset.
@@justnvcoh bruhhhhhhhhhh then I'm if I wanna get another keyboard then I gotta pay more for the analog and it seems like the analog is disc continued cuz there's only little left and it's only on the razer eu store and in the united states one when you go to the razer huntsman mini analog thing it just sends you to the regular huntsman mini
I would say not to buy a keyboard solely for rapid trigger. If you only care about rapid trigger then get the Wooting. It does it better even if only slightly. Less deadzones of the keys, slightly more accurate on activation (doubt humans can notice 0.3mm give or take but still) and more range of play. If that is worth it or not is personal preference. Both keyboards do the same rapid trigger
Not an easy question to answer in a few lines, will probably make a longer video on it, either here on through stream. At equivalent settings they'll be close but the Wooting likely edges out on additional features. I measure about a 2ms difference in latency, but a part of that might be due to the difference in how heavy the switch is, so it's probably within a millisecond of eachother. If you use a Razer mouse though, there are additional benefits on that side too with e.g. Hypershift.
Hi. Ive already ordered the huntsman te and some questions If i train myself to always apply low force and actuate it near to a millimetre, will it give the same feel as the rapid trigger feature? Im so 😢
Yes but not really since that's impossible to do reliably. On other switches you could use o-rings but they don't work with the opto-mechanical design.
I believe both will work (you'll probably need to set 6kro on the wooting), but since razer rapid trigger requires synapse running on this generation of keyboards, only the wooting might provide rapid trigger for this generation on keyboards.
@@Mukimi9 press.razer.com/product-news/unleashing-unprecedented-speed-introducing-rapid-trigger-mode-for-razer-analog-keyboards/ "Please note: We’re rolling out this update gradually across the globe starting today. If you are unable to see the update, please check back in the next couple of days. The update should be fully rolled-out to all by 13 June 2023."
This rapid trigger implementation is interesting, but not as good as wooting/hall effect sensor switches. The razer measures in steps which are small but they're still steps and uses optical switches so it cannot get that 0.1mm rapid trigger release like hall effect can. Its more like 0.3mm which is still really good but compared to wooting/hall effect there is a delay
steelseries have said they are working on implementing rapid trigger on the apex pro. how do you think it will compare to the wooting and the razer keyboard?
@@Antside I think steelseries implementation will be far better than razers, but I have a feeling it will be slightly worse than wooting still (though not by much) due to the apex pro "only" being able to actuate at 0.2mm compared to wooting 0.1mm which tells me there is a bit of a difference in the sensor reading. Gonna be bascially the same though
@@RoastedSushii Both Razer and Apex sensors are not 1-1 accurate. 0.3mm could mean 0.1mm or 0.6mm etc. Razer even says on it's site that it "estimates" (at least they are honest). Apex senor change was more marketing baloney then anything but it does "work". Wooting is surprising pretty accurate to what it says. Off by maybe 0.1-0.2 +- on some keys but depends on board you get. Does this really matter? Doubtful but shows areas of possible improvement for the other boards. With my Apex pro I had some keys greatly off vs others which creates a noticeable inconsistency.. however this is not noticeable at low activation points due to human limitations. However Razer Rapid trigger and most likely SteelSeries rapid trigger (if they dont change the boards/sensors/design) will have a fairly large dead zone for the keys. Meaning the activation and rapid trigger areas will possibly be only within 60% or so of the whole key movement. So currently Wooting (with its 10-20% dead zone) is better for rapid trigger but who buys a keyboard for one thing and how often do you smash your keys? I imagine in the coming years this maybe the norm in keyboards but who knows. It is somewhat gimmicky and one could perform the same with shorter key activation boards. Its value is also greatly limited to games that have first shot accuracy/movement error and low TTK or button mashing type games.
Now that the Analog one got the rapid trigger feature, do you think it is worth buying over the normal huntsman mini with red optical switches? Also great video, keep it up!
so, razer is still behind wooting because the actuation cannot be adjusted below 1.5mm down to the .1mm like the wooting. not that I would probably notice to be honest, wooting did nothing for me in overwatch 2 atleast.
I use 1mm and 0.3mm on my Wooting, versus 1.5mm and 0.4+0.1mm rapid trigger on the Razer. The Razer get's close on their existing switch, but yeah they'll need a new one to go beyond. It's a great feature for the existing keyboard though!
Streaming with it for a few hours if anyone has questions: twitch.tv/justnvc
Can’t wait to try this on my v2
is this available only on the analog huntsmans?
Correct
HOW DO I GET THIS
Waiting on mine from amazon, in the meantime im using the horrid purple clicky key version
Do you have to have analog?
i cant get the rapid trigger to work.... can you somehow help me?
I have the 915TKL but I am looking for an upgrade, I really like the feeling of it but do you think that going for the wooting would be a worth upgrade? This is so expensive which is what makes me hesitant
For some reason mine isn’t working. Please let me know what you did. I synced it to the WASD keys, same settings as you. What do I do?
Didn't work for me either until I did a reset of the keyboard.
But try making a new profile. On my old profiles the rapid trigger don't work. If that doesn't work try a reset, Settings (Gear icon top right) -> Reset.
What about razer tartarus pro? It has the same technology
Where can you get the update?
It's being rolled out to all users and expected to complete via Synapse 3.0 on June 13th.
@@justnvc how did you get it early?
@@infinitgmer1588 I just got lucky, people will get it at different times.
@@justnvc as i heard it doesnt work on v2 tkl cz its not anlog , right?
does it have to be the analog version? can I just get the regular razer huntsman mini and then use razer snaypse 4 to get the rapid trigger?
Analog only, or the V3
@@justnvcoh bruhhhhhhhhhh then I'm if I wanna get another keyboard then I gotta pay more for the analog and it seems like the analog is disc continued cuz there's only little left and it's only on the razer eu store and in the united states one when you go to the razer huntsman mini analog thing it just sends you to the regular huntsman mini
why dont you email Razer and tell them to fix the issues with the Rapid Trigger?
can you make more videos on the rapid trigger
i get only costomize and lightinnngg ??
Will the huntsman tournament edition have this since its an analog? Could be a great budget way of accessing rapid trigger.
Huntsman tournament edition is not analog.
This. Both are optical keyboards but only the Huntsman keyboards with the Black switches feature Analog input.
@@justnvc oh :( wooting it is for me then lol. Can't justify spending 100+ dollars on a razer product.
@@justnvc just for clarification, it won't work on my linear red huntsman mini?
@@handsie221 the wooting is better just the wait times suck
is the debounce still 22ms? it negates all the good implementation of rapid trigger
not on my hunstman mini analog, i can get really low numbers on blog.seethis.link/scan-rate-estimator/
@@justnvc I TESTED RN WITH WOOTING WAS ABLE TO GET 2MS
@@-GRXNDSCOPER- yup both should be 0ms (so 2-6ms should be doable when flicking the keys)
@@justnvc SO RAZER ONE IS BAD? WTF THEY DOING XD
@@-GRXNDSCOPER- it's not
would you say the wooting is worth the extra £60 and 2 month delivery time than the huntsman mini?
By far yes
I would say not to buy a keyboard solely for rapid trigger.
If you only care about rapid trigger then get the Wooting. It does it better even if only slightly. Less deadzones of the keys, slightly more accurate on activation (doubt humans can notice 0.3mm give or take but still) and more range of play. If that is worth it or not is personal preference. Both keyboards do the same rapid trigger
How do you think this compared to the one on the Wooting 60HE. How much does it actually affect the in-game performance
Not an easy question to answer in a few lines, will probably make a longer video on it, either here on through stream. At equivalent settings they'll be close but the Wooting likely edges out on additional features. I measure about a 2ms difference in latency, but a part of that might be due to the difference in how heavy the switch is, so it's probably within a millisecond of eachother. If you use a Razer mouse though, there are additional benefits on that side too with e.g. Hypershift.
Optimum Tech uploaded a video a few hours ago comparing them
Can I ask what version your Razer Synapse is?
Here you go: streamable.com/imsqzv
Are you able to do it just for specific keys? or are all keys effected when rapid fire is enabled
Both
@@justnvc So i can just have it on my WASD keys?
@@rikifps yes. Just sync to selected keys in the razer software
Should I get this or steel series apex 9 mini
get the bugha keyboard, the gold one
@@yb_easyclapgg4627 you a little late lmao, I got the 9 mini lie a year ago
Hi. Ive already ordered the huntsman te and some questions
If i train myself to always apply low force and actuate it near to a millimetre, will it give the same feel as the rapid trigger feature? Im so 😢
Yes but not really since that's impossible to do reliably. On other switches you could use o-rings but they don't work with the opto-mechanical design.
@@justnvc thanks for the reply. Greatly appreciate it 👍🏻
looking to use this keyboard on my ps5, would I need this software running? Is the wooting better?
I believe both will work (you'll probably need to set 6kro on the wooting), but since razer rapid trigger requires synapse running on this generation of keyboards, only the wooting might provide rapid trigger for this generation on keyboards.
@@justnvc yeah I bought the Razer and couldn’t use it on the PS5 :( just ordered my Wooting tho :)
How do I even get the update? Re-installed the synapse app and can't find it soon this keyboard will be fucking binned
Also the firmware is up to date and it just wont come through, pain in the fucking arse
@@A.J.S.W.17 do you definitely have the analog switch version?
Did you used the razer huntsmam mini red linear ?
is it gone on synapse now? i cant find it
same i cant find it too
@@Mukimi9 press.razer.com/product-news/unleashing-unprecedented-speed-introducing-rapid-trigger-mode-for-razer-analog-keyboards/
"Please note: We’re rolling out this update gradually across the globe starting today. If you are unable to see the update, please check back in the next couple of days. The update should be fully rolled-out to all by 13 June 2023."
This rapid trigger implementation is interesting, but not as good as wooting/hall effect sensor switches. The razer measures in steps which are small but they're still steps and uses optical switches so it cannot get that 0.1mm rapid trigger release like hall effect can. Its more like 0.3mm which is still really good but compared to wooting/hall effect there is a delay
steelseries have said they are working on implementing rapid trigger on the apex pro. how do you think it will compare to the wooting and the razer keyboard?
@@Antside I think steelseries implementation will be far better than razers, but I have a feeling it will be slightly worse than wooting still (though not by much) due to the apex pro "only" being able to actuate at 0.2mm compared to wooting 0.1mm which tells me there is a bit of a difference in the sensor reading. Gonna be bascially the same though
@@RoastedSushii ok thank you!
@@RoastedSushii
Both Razer and Apex sensors are not 1-1 accurate. 0.3mm could mean 0.1mm or 0.6mm etc. Razer even says on it's site that it "estimates" (at least they are honest). Apex senor change was more marketing baloney then anything but it does "work". Wooting is surprising pretty accurate to what it says. Off by maybe 0.1-0.2 +- on some keys but depends on board you get.
Does this really matter? Doubtful but shows areas of possible improvement for the other boards.
With my Apex pro I had some keys greatly off vs others which creates a noticeable inconsistency.. however this is not noticeable at low activation points due to human limitations. However Razer Rapid trigger and most likely SteelSeries rapid trigger (if they dont change the boards/sensors/design) will have a fairly large dead zone for the keys. Meaning the activation and rapid trigger areas will possibly be only within 60% or so of the whole key movement. So currently Wooting (with its 10-20% dead zone) is better for rapid trigger but who buys a keyboard for one thing and how often do you smash your keys?
I imagine in the coming years this maybe the norm in keyboards but who knows. It is somewhat gimmicky and one could perform the same with shorter key activation boards. Its value is also greatly limited to games that have first shot accuracy/movement error and low TTK or button mashing type games.
Now that the Analog one got the rapid trigger feature, do you think it is worth buying over the normal huntsman mini with red optical switches? Also great video, keep it up!
late to discover, nice channel mate
hard to hate razer's peripheral nowadays
so, razer is still behind wooting because the actuation cannot be adjusted below 1.5mm down to the .1mm like the wooting. not that I would probably notice to be honest, wooting did nothing for me in overwatch 2 atleast.
I use 1mm and 0.3mm on my Wooting, versus 1.5mm and 0.4+0.1mm rapid trigger on the Razer. The Razer get's close on their existing switch, but yeah they'll need a new one to go beyond. It's a great feature for the existing keyboard though!
this rapid trigger is fake
not as good as the wooting he switchez