Best youtube review so far of the civic hatch. Appreciate the honest take on it, including the turbo lag and rev hang which no other reviewer has mentioned except very briefly. It felt like watching a real person and car enthusiast drive the car instead of a journalist. Thanks for not making it cheesy and avoiding tired taglines or any stupid attempt at being witty or funny.
Paco LeRoi thanks! truth is, that's just exactly what I am, a real consumer and an enthusiast. I'm glad you liked the video, I'll try to post one weekly to mark the progress of this car, and my other 3.
Man, I watch this video almost daily. Waiting for mine to come in. Exact same specs, color combo as yours. Dude at the dealer said that by years end there will only be like 9 white sport manuals in America.
Ironically this civic face look generation is the best selling civic ever in the world. It’s more aggressive and sporty looking compare to previous generations and the new models that starts in 2022.
Thanks for the honest review and driving footage. Spirited driving of the 6spd seems to be missing from every other review, but not yours. I'm also glad you pointed out the rev-hang, I learned it first from your video. You ultimately helped me with my decision to order my new '17 Sport Hatch 6MT in Aegean Blue, thanks!
Thanks for the kind words, I really try my best to be as honest as possible (some people don't like it when I'm honest and the car I'm driving isn't very good). So happy you're getting a hatch, blue is a really nice color for it.
Rev hang in my 2014 Accord Sport 2.4 6MT. The rev hang isn't for EPA, you physically have to inject fuel to do that. The rev hang is there to keep flywheel momentum going as the flywheels are quite light. You'll see why it's there when you turn the A/C on and it drops much faster. I've tested this on my Accord about 500 times. It's one of my biggest issues. I can't ever get used to it. Sometimes it'll hang for what seems like weeks, others much more reasonable. I'm used to rev matching every shift to prevent from using the clutch. You'll see what I mean the more you use the car. I've tested it so much I've physically watched the revs go UP even though my foot has been off the gas for a while. It's not just because the foot is in it. I can make exaggerated movements to people to demonstrate it. But it's not EVERY single time, just most times. You'll see what I mean. I am also looking at this exact vehicle as well. I find that my Accord Sport gets me 32.5 MPG average, mostly highway, but I hammer on it quite a bit. The performance of this Civic is similar to the Accord sport, so I'm not sure if this lateral movement would be useful to me.
Yea, this rev hang issues is one of the things I dislike about this civic, but at least there is hope with a future tune. I looked at manual accords as well, but I really think the hatchback offers good utility, so I went with the hatch instead.
Honestly the Manual 2.4 Sport Accord is probably the better choice in most cases. BUT... The hatchback is a tiny bit more fuel efficient 8%, but that's running 87 octane, you lose the cost going to 93. There is no real tunability with the 2.4 You can get a cast bellmouth with no cat for like 8WHP. You won't even feel that. With the Civic hatch, there is a a bit more versatility which is important to me. And more importantly, tuning. I wish I knew what kind of connecting rods Honda put in this motor, or what kind of direct injection fuel capacity it's got. I'm guessing those will be changed in the Si or the R. You can tune that rev hang out thank GOD! It's obnoxious. I'd HIGHLY suggest though that you run a high end catch can as soon as possible. Please take it from me having owned many direct injection and DI turbo cars in the past.
I got the base manual. the base uses regular fuel and has 174 HP. Sport and upgrades have 180 HP, and use premium fuel. SIX HP for premium is a no-go. it is quiet. meh on styling. It looks better than the Fit. Note that the base does not have a tweeter mount for speakers.
Just got my 2018 HB Sport 6sp (and first stick*) a few weeks ago. Big ups to you for being a positive influence in helping me choose this car and absolutely loving and learning each day!
@@FlyinGato Thank you, sir! I had to travel to dirty Jerz, and they weren't quite wanting to give up the car at the price point I requested. Nonetheless with persistence, $20.5 OTD ($500 trade included as part of the price). The more I drive, the burden of the price won't be that much of a significance any longer! Cheers.
yea, it's just a cover, I don't even use it.... I think it's because, if you're part of the press release, Honda made a big deal out of it, so the reviewers made it a big deal too. I mean, it's a great design, but I expect nothing less from Honda, so it gets a big "meh" from me haha.
The cars are hard to find as this model is imported from swindon in the UK. Honda EU are normally a little on the slow side until they go into full production. They are tooling up for the Type R too later in 2017. The factory is also expanding to fulfil Global production rather than just EU. Anyway it was a real good review from our cousins across the water. No biased crap, straight to the point and very thorough. Much appreciated @flyingato. Excellent job. Probably the best review I have seen. I like it a lot, but its going to be hard to tear this tuned 1380kg Civic FN3 out of my hands. Better try my hardest to kill it :/
yea, I still haven't seen another hatchback civic here in the tri-state area that wasn't still in the dealership, and the manual ones are still very hard to find. As for the Type R, I can't wait to see it when it comes out. Thanks for the kid words btw, I'm a very amateur film guy, what I'm really trying to do is share my enthusiasm for these cars. As for your FN3, love the shape of that car, and if you already have a bond with it, it's probably best just to keep it, that's how I am with my BB6 Prelude and my S2000.
In my opinion, I love the rev hang, I think it sounds amazing when you hit 6k, and Instead of shifting, just let off the gas and it rev hangs for 5 or so seconds, and turbo lag isn't good for performance, but the thrill of getting a sudden rush at a certain rpm is what gives you a smile when you drive :)
Already love it, man! Traded in my 2012 Accord LX for it. I had some great memories in that basic car and was a bit sad to see it stripped of the license plates at the dealership. I'm hoping the next owner treats it well. Think I'll be a loyal Honda driver for a very long time!
I have heard three excuses for rev hang from automotive designers. 1. is that it helps to rev match for inexperienced drivers to save on clutch wear and components. Also prevents jerking. 2. is that it prevents flooding and unburnt fuel from entering the emissions system. Wouldn’t the computer controlled injection control that? But 3 was interesting. When a low priced vehicle is just as fun to drive as a high end sports car then those cars won’t sell nearly as often. If they don’t sell the race model then they don’t make them and without a flagship model it devalues the lower models. Interesting.
Good review. Answered many of the questions/concerns I had about this car. Not too much of a fan with the honey comb design though. In this regard, the golf gti is a little more appealing. I am however looking for a car that is going to be reliable, so it looks like I may end up getting the Civic Sport or maybe the Type R if I can get a good price on the latter.
great video, you actually convinced me to learn manual when you took the car for a drive. My one criticism though is how you have your camera mounted on your head when you're driving it made me feel really motion sick lol
Learning to drive stick is very worthwhile if you want to really enjoy cars. As for the head movements, I agree, it was the best cam I had at the time (gopro), but now I have a nicer one, should help a bit. I do still use the go pro to show "POV" items. Thanks for the feedback, appreciate it!
Very nice and cool ride, Gato! I also love the white and black color scheme. Thankfully they blacked out the window trim chrome. Have fun and enjoy it!
I've got about 1K miles on my '17 Accord coupe 6-6AT, just picked it up a month ago. I get that same rev hang, actually. It's worse in sport mode. And it's freaking annoying as hell! If you get on throttle really heavy, then let off, that rev hang causes the car not to decelerate for about a second. Freaked me out the first time it happened! I came from an LX CVT, so the 6AT takes getting used to as the CVT does not have this rev hang. I thought I'd mention it and see if any other people with Accord 6-6ATs noticed it. Loved the vid btw, the civic hatch is the best civic ever, IMO. I like it. Even though I'm an Accord guy.
I wish i had these empty roads and desert parking lots around to play with my car a bit more. I have to drive 1 hour to find a place like that. Nice drive!
Excellent review and good production values. Mic sound dropped a few times so watch that in the future. I'm torn between the civic hatch and VW Golf. I like the reliability of Honda, but I prefer the look and better shifting feel of the VW. What do you think?
+NKQ55 I would go with the Civic hatch, my buddy has a GTI from 2011, and it's plagued with problems. Thanks for the kind words on the video, my newer videos have much better equipment and production
Good luck with your beautiful car. I really want the Hatch in Sonic Gray but the 6 speed turbo Hatch lacks a lot of the amenities I expect in a sporty car. Looks like the Coupe for me. But, man, do I really love the look of the Hatch.
Others have said it and I will too, this is the best review of this car online right now. Is it true there's no XM/Sirius radio though? That's a huge deal breaker for me. I'm going to ask my dealer if this can be upgraded/special ordered.
Hey bud, thanks for the kind words! The Sport and LX do not have XM radio, you'd have to go EX or Touring for that. I'm so used to using my phone for audio, I was ok with it.
Thanks for confirming the rumors lol! I currently drive a 12 year old Toyota, which will probably last another 12 years. But right now I'm working on locking in the best car to get for the $$$ and desired features if/when the ol' Yota gives it up or starts being a money pit. I was damn near ready to hit a dealer after seeing this car on some pages/channels. But then one dude said no 'sat radio and I was crushed. But while it is a deal breaker, it's really not because I'm sure there's a way to have the sat head unit installed on a sport. Those wheels, engine and manual trans are just too great of a combo to compromise for the other models.
Good review. Your video is prompting me to get the Sport model although I have been thinking of waiting for the Type R. After watching your video, I am thinking about the problems I might have with the Type R in terms of paying a premium for the vehicle and the likely speeding tickets I will incur up here in Canada.
Great job. I watched the night and day review. Manual transmission makes this car more sporty. I also like your choice of color. Is this hard for a new driver to drive this manual civic hatchback sport?
Thanks! I think this is probably one of the easiest ones to learn on, as it has the brake hold assist feature, which holds the brake for you until you get rolling again. I definitely recommend the manual on this car, though, definitely transforms it to a sporty car.
Sorry about that, I'm buying new equipment in the coming weeks to rectify that issue. I was using a Drift HD Ghost, a camera released 5 years ago, and I didn't notice the problem until I posted it on youtube.
How do you find a manual? The Honda website isn't helpful, and as far as I can see, you have to search thru each franchise inventory one-by-one to see what they have available. There is no way to view a "national" inventory.
The easiest way to find the manuals is to go through edmunds and Autotrader, and do a nationwide search. I had to fly from NY to North Carolina to get my manual.
Hatchbacks becoming more and more popular in Canada, also I'm seeing a lot of Ford Transit vans aswell in Ontario lol.. Ford Transits have been in U.K since forever yet they are just starting to arrive in Canada now haha, Canada is seriously 10 years or more behind like lets say Britain.. Just now hatchbacks are becoming more and more popular and more efficient in Canada but this has been standard in the U.K for quite some time. I think this exact car is actually built in U.K aswell so I heard
Hey bud, yea I'm glad the hatchback is coming back in style, it's the best car body style due to the usefulness. These are built in the UK, it's the first "British" car I own haha
I might pick it up some day if I can afford it. I've owned my Mazda 3 hatchback for 6 years and I love it, such a nice looking hatchback. This Honda is nice though but might even wait for the Type R.
Si won't have awd, and the si is also using the same engine as the other turbo civics, so with a tune, the difference shouldn't be too bad (time will tell).
Great review! was just wondering if you test drove or driven an ex or exl? Just seeing if you kinda wanted some of the features those trims have, I was thinking of getting the ext sedan, but after seeing your reviews I'm starting to really like your car instead. Also could you do a video of your lighting kit if you have it installed?
Hey there, I test drove the LX manual, the Sport in CVT and the EX-L in CVT, and the only feature I would have liked from the EX-L are the leather seats and the keyless entry and start. The Radio was not great, touchscreen gets nice and smudged up rather quickly, and from what I have been reading on the forums, the touchscreen radio tends to be quite glitchy. I'll definitely do a review of the lighting kit I had installed on the car, post it up this weekend!
FlyinGato I kinda figured the touch screen would get glitchy at times, and I also would miss the push to star feature too and the twitter speakers on the doors as well. Also wondering what kind of cell phone mount you have? Thanks for the reply, wanted to get honest feedback from an actual owner and not some journalist and also looking forward to your lighting kit video.
Happy to help! Cell phone mount is the i Ottie, works very well in this car. www.amazon.com/gp/product/B017HME9DC/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
engine? 2.0L? Great review...one thing tho...i don't think you realize how limited your interaction is with the car by not having the screen display in front of you...this RPM looks good but in there you should be able to send and receive text messages, facebook notifications, on tap navigation and a multitude of functions from android auto and apple car play are on there...you can just use this space for A LOT more than just show RPM and speed and this is what the other models with a screen offer...no offense tho very nice car i love honda i have a 2020 Sport coupe 6 speed manual in black myself.
What would you recommend when someone gets a first car after only driving rentals, put on a few years of driving experience first on a Civic Sport Plus and then maybe get an R with some losses or go directly with the R and just drive it "slow" but have less losses?
Are you experiencing problem with your smart entry? Like when you are away for a long period of time, you can't unlock it with just by hand. But if you lock it and open it right away, it unlocks. Also, when you start the car and you go out to open the hatch, it wont open.
Hey bud, I've read about Civic owners having this problem, I think some keyless entry systems have bugs that need to be worked out. On my car, since I don't have that system, I don't have that problem. I have the "old fashioned" remote unlock plus key (standard on the LX and Sport).
FlyinGato I see. This is why i prefer keys over push start/smart entry or whatever. Less problem. And it kinda sucks I cant open the hatch while the engine is running. I had to turn it off to open it. I dont get that idea
Hey FlyingGato, what a beautiful car! I got the same one but with black interior and it's the LX model. Do you know if they sale the blacked out weather strips for this car? The ones that are found on the sport model. Thanks.
what is your opinion on the honda,fit? I have a 2015 and really it's a great car but I don't know much about cars. I really want to get the sport touring manual. but having paid 3 years of my fit already I'm wondering if it's worth it. what do you think? thanks again for the video and review very helpful.
The Fit is very good in terms of storage space and capacity, it's also good on gas. The only thing I don't like too much is the lack of performance compared to the turbo Civic. If I were you, I would just keep the Fit for now, keep it for another couple of years, save up some money then trade it up for something really nice, maybe a Type R?
Thank you for the very useful video, I just got my hatchback sport 2018 last month and trying to find a way to add a remote start. I'm living in NYC and winter is cold, so I need a remote start. How much will it usually cost to add a remote start?
Big mistake I chose the CVT and now I'm having issues with it at 1245 miles of course I'm going to the dealer to get it fix but being this vehicle the second new Honda I believe this is the last one, no more Honda for me. I'm back to Nissan.
That sucks! I was definitely skeptical of the CVT, and always have been, no matter from what manufacturer. Manuals have been around for a very long time, the quirks and issues have all been worked out.
I really enjoyed your review of the 2017 Honda Civic. I own a 2017 Honda Civic hatch sport the model before yours (turbo was unavailable) my wife has a 2012 Honda Civic hatch as well. I purchased mine because I loved driving hers. Both models are made in the U.K, build quality is excellent, the new model just released is made in Thailand. I can already see some cost cutting in the new model, different tyre manufacturer, ours have Continental tyres, the rubber strip between the front doors and body have been removed, the base model has cheaper feeling and looking material compared to our Civics. The dash in the new model looks good but I prefer the previous model, two tiered design. The build quality is not as good as the U.K built Civic, this may improve as time goes by. I am not a fan of CVT transmissions, give me a good conventional auto every time. I found the new model not as quiet but still acceptable. What I did like is the better rear suspension, turbo motor which is excellent and the increase in size. The new model drove well and I was impressed I see where the money went. I think the hatch will sell well. I can't wait to see the Honda type R.
How did you get these seats and updraded cloth with the stock sport trim? I was under the impression you had to upgrade to the EX and above to get those seats. Do you get options to add to the stock model?
I think you did a really good job on this review dude! I'm trading in my '13 Focus ST in tomorrow for a '17 Hatch Sport. I've been test driving it over the weekend and I am fairly impressed! It doesn't have the power that the ST has, but it's almost as light as a Fiesta ST and is bigger inside than my Focus. I'm really interested in how the long term impressions will be, because the short term in the 300 miles I've put on it so far are pretty good.
Thanks! it was one of my first car review videos I ever made! ST is a great car, but the hatch sport is just better. Took mine to three track days, just needs better brake pads and fluid, and a KTUNER to wake it up a bit, it's the BESt car at around 20K
Sweet thanks man! I've been watching some of your newer videos and found it funny; the '17 I just got was traded in by my one of the Master techs at my dealership for a white Type R just like yours.
have you heard the dreaded warm start grinding noise?? since you have the 6spd i'd be willing to bet you haven't as it sounds like it's the cvt module.
FG, I have a question for you, I just noticed my civic (just like yours) has this sputtering of the engine when I turn it off. Sometimes the sputtering causes the car to jerk because I let go of the clutch too soon due to the engine not shutting down right away. Let me know if you have noticed this too or it might just be me, thanks.
That rear honeycomb shit is annoying to look at. Taillights are trying a bit too hard to be cutting edge. I don't care much for the front wheel fenders, either. Otherwise, it's a good Honda. I'm looking forward to the Si Coupe which will be a true 2-door hatch.
Interesting, I grabbed the base lx hatch in canada, and it has the touch screen 8 speeker sound and heated seats...i wonder why they are different seeing as this is the sport which has almost every option here.
nice ride man!i have to wait to see this car in my country for another 4 months..so can you tell me something about the engine?because it is the first time for honda to put turbo.do you afraid of that?
Hi Panos, Honda's had turbo motors for a very long time, Since the Honda City (1981). They've since had many, and most recently, the Euro type R and the US RDX had turbo engines. I think they have done very well with this engine, I have no doubts.
thank u man for the response because i am about to buy this car and i want to be sure about my choise even it is possible. The honda cars that you have in your country are from the factory from england or another?do you know anything about that?
Of course, regarding the Civic lineup, we get our sedans and coupes from Canada, but the Hatchbacks are all built in Swindon, England. My car feels very well built, panel gaps are great, everything feels well made, as a Honda should feel. The main issue people are having on these are regarding the more upscale entertainment system (mainly, the touchscreen). It's another reason I like my Sport trim, it only has the non-touchscreen radio.
well i think in every country honda has their standar but these for me are meaningless because fthere are other things more important like engine etc. in my opinion of course.you are helping me a lot and i thank u but if you want i have another i think 2 questions(my thirsty for honda(japan)).what can you tell me about mpg in city(lt here in my country)?i suppose mine roads here in athens are a lot different than yours but i want to hear and from you your opinion about that.
I tend to think the engine is also the most important thing as well, another reason I bought the Civic. As far as MPG has been, I do a lot of mixed driving, so a lot of around town (city) driving and a little bit of highway driving, and I've been getting around 35 MPG overall, and I expect it to improve a bit more after the engine fully breaks in.
ah you see i have an 07 toyota yaris, electronic throttle body like all modern cars, and it lags like hell. like im talking a second of lag between stabbing the gas and actually getting a response. it makes the car really uncomfortable to drive because getting a smooth shift when the engine is doing its own thing is damn near impossible.. the rev hang on the yaris is really really bad too, because it happens only sometimes and it makes shifting jerky as hell.
yea I get it, the 2005 TSX my fiance had (I made a review of it) had a similar issue, but the worst experience I've had so far was in an X1 I drove (also reviewed on my channel) and my friend's honda Fit. It's like, when you hit the gas pedal, it has to think about what it wants to do when it grows up before it realizes IT HAS ONE JOB TO DO! The Civic hatch Sport doesn't have the problem, thank goodness!
I test drove the Mazda 3 2.5, and while that felt quite sporty, this Civic with the turbo motor has more torque and, if you get the sport package, feels more responsive.
It does actually, if the car detects it's on a hill, it will automatically hold the brakes for you. It doesn't do it every time, but most of the time it works.
I tend to agree, but due to pedestrian safety regulations and other government mandated stuff, they had to add a lot of bulk to the car, and in order to break it up a bit, the fake grills help. The Type R uses them for brake vents, perhaps the aftermarket can make these fake vent grills work.
It's FWD, but I drove it in the snow this past weekend, and it's not bad at all (although I do recommend getting snow tires). I'd say this is almost as fast as the ST, as it is 400 pounds lighter. I test drove the ST and picked this car.
uh..." I'd say this is almost as fast as the ST ", dude, you have to be joking. the Focus ST is not in the same league. 250HP hot hatch, on my first test drive of the ST, I had to pull over to compose myself it was so fast. 2nd gear on the vehicle, you're practically taking flight, 3rd tapers off. The civic will move but no where near the ST, not by a mile.
While I agree that the ST is a faster car in a straight line, I would say that it's not by much. The Civic weighs 400 pounds less, which is significant in terms of weight savings. Because of that, I still think the Civic is more of a value buy than the ST.
hey man how did you get a manual ! I want to buy a sport hatchback with a MANUAL trans . Every Honda dealer says they #1 don't have one #2 cant get one #3 Honda don't make them #4 cant order or build one #5 you have to settle for the CVT . I have a 2000 civic SI and I cant buy a new car without the manual . Do you have any suggestions please ! thank you
I'm very happy I didn't get the touchscreen, I think the physical controls are very good on the radio. The Sport trim in the US doesn't come with the touchscreen, and the Sport and LX models are the only ones that come with a manual option, and I just had to have the manual.
I love my '15 sedan, but the lease is up in a year and I'm trying to decide if I'm going to keep it or lease a new one. I like the '17 hatch sport, but there are a handful of little things I don't like that are making the decision difficult.
FlyinGato Little things like the fake honeycomb grills, the feel of the cloth, and the feel of the buttons on the wheel and dash (they feel cheap and clicky, imo). Stuff like that. Only thing I dislike about my sedan is the CVT. So I need to weigh a bunch of little things against one big thing. At least I still have time to think.
Well, you can always get the stick shift turbo sedan, if you don't mind not having a hatchback. I personally love the hatch, but that's a choice you can make.
FlyinGato I generally love the aesthetics of the Sport hatch, and I really want the turbo/manual combo. I've also recently fallen in love with hatchbacks after my brother bought a Chevy haych that has HUGE cargo space lol. Sedan would have the same cloth and cheap plastic.
Fair enough, if I were you I would just get the hatchback sport, I think the buttons are pretty good quality. The cloth seats are ok, the material is not the greatest but it'll do for a while.
FlyinGato thanks so much for the reply:) I'm picking one up in about a week. I'm still cofused about the color of the rims, they appear to be black however they look like a brushed metal on the honda website. great videos!
Thanks man!. I was deciding between the Sport and EX but I don't care for sunroof or push to start. Maybe the touch screen or the cameras on the side-mirrors are cool but IDK. Thank you for these videos. They're awesome.
Thanks for the kind words! Honestly, I prefer the non touch screen audio, the Sport is such a good value, and remember, the Sport has better steering rack, it's .2 inches lower than the other ones, and you can really feel it.
never a problem my man. You have to consider sales tax (for me it was 8.5%), out the door was 22,500. I'll be posting a video of my buying process this weekend, if you want to know exactly how I did it.
Hi, there.. Since the very first time the civic coupe was shown as a prototype for the new 10 gen civic, that i am in love... Here in my country, it started to be sold since 2017, and this year, i finally got to buy one hatchback 1.5 sport... i am in love, could drive it hours and hours, it's something unexplainable... but, maybe unfortunatly, i have one question, that i would like you to answer me if you can... In the US, or north-america, do you have to do the oil change at 5.500 miles?? is it normal for you guys? My civic started to ask to go to the dealers service for oil change.. i am a bit surprised.. Can you tell me anything about this? tks
Best youtube review so far of the civic hatch. Appreciate the honest take on it, including the turbo lag and rev hang which no other reviewer has mentioned except very briefly. It felt like watching a real person and car enthusiast drive the car instead of a journalist. Thanks for not making it cheesy and avoiding tired taglines or any stupid attempt at being witty or funny.
Paco LeRoi thanks! truth is, that's just exactly what I am, a real consumer and an enthusiast. I'm glad you liked the video, I'll try to post one weekly to mark the progress of this car, and my other 3.
+RightDrive I'm used to NA cars, I notice turbo lag
As long as insurance isn’t too much I’ll be scooping a 2019 within the next 2 months!
Awesome! You'll love it
You just sold the car to me. thanks for your honest review .
It's an awesome car, happy to help!
I don't like electronic parking breaks either. Not a bit
Man, I watch this video almost daily. Waiting for mine to come in. Exact same specs, color combo as yours. Dude at the dealer said that by years end there will only be like 9 white sport manuals in America.
Oh wow, that's really cool to know! We're one of 9 so far, that's more exclusive than most lambos and ferraris! You're going to love this car.
Just got mine this weekend. Ended up getting lunar silver. There were only 4 total in TExas and no white :(
That's alright, did you get it in manual? What do you think of the car so far?
I am loving it. It is my 4th hatch. I have had 1989. 1996, and 2004 Si. Definitely my favorite so far! MPG is great too.
Oh man, I had a 1990 civic wagon! it was my first car, I'm so happy to be back in a 4 door hatchback again.
Ironically this civic face look generation is the best selling civic ever in the world. It’s more aggressive and sporty looking compare to previous generations and the new models that starts in 2022.
Thanks for the honest review and driving footage. Spirited driving of the 6spd seems to be missing from every other review, but not yours. I'm also glad you pointed out the rev-hang, I learned it first from your video. You ultimately helped me with my decision to order my new '17 Sport Hatch 6MT in Aegean Blue, thanks!
Thanks for the kind words, I really try my best to be as honest as possible (some people don't like it when I'm honest and the car I'm driving isn't very good). So happy you're getting a hatch, blue is a really nice color for it.
Rev hang in my 2014 Accord Sport 2.4 6MT.
The rev hang isn't for EPA, you physically have to inject fuel to do that. The rev hang is there to keep flywheel momentum going as the flywheels are quite light.
You'll see why it's there when you turn the A/C on and it drops much faster.
I've tested this on my Accord about 500 times. It's one of my biggest issues. I can't ever get used to it. Sometimes it'll hang for what seems like weeks, others much more reasonable. I'm used to rev matching every shift to prevent from using the clutch.
You'll see what I mean the more you use the car. I've tested it so much I've physically watched the revs go UP even though my foot has been off the gas for a while. It's not just because the foot is in it. I can make exaggerated movements to people to demonstrate it. But it's not EVERY single time, just most times. You'll see what I mean.
I am also looking at this exact vehicle as well. I find that my Accord Sport gets me 32.5 MPG average, mostly highway, but I hammer on it quite a bit. The performance of this Civic is similar to the Accord sport, so I'm not sure if this lateral movement would be useful to me.
Yea, this rev hang issues is one of the things I dislike about this civic, but at least there is hope with a future tune. I looked at manual accords as well, but I really think the hatchback offers good utility, so I went with the hatch instead.
Honestly the Manual 2.4 Sport Accord is probably the better choice in most cases.
BUT... The hatchback is a tiny bit more fuel efficient 8%, but that's running 87 octane, you lose the cost going to 93. There is no real tunability with the 2.4 You can get a cast bellmouth with no cat for like 8WHP. You won't even feel that.
With the Civic hatch, there is a a bit more versatility which is important to me.
And more importantly, tuning.
I wish I knew what kind of connecting rods Honda put in this motor, or what kind of direct injection fuel capacity it's got. I'm guessing those will be changed in the Si or the R.
You can tune that rev hang out thank GOD! It's obnoxious.
I'd HIGHLY suggest though that you run a high end catch can as soon as possible. Please take it from me having owned many direct injection and DI turbo cars in the past.
Oh I know, I have a 335d, carbon build up can definitely be an issue, so a catch can is a must. I'll be looking into one soon.
Thanks for the review man.
happy to help!
I got the base manual. the base uses regular fuel and has 174 HP. Sport and upgrades have 180 HP, and use premium fuel. SIX HP for premium is a no-go. it is quiet. meh on styling. It looks better than the Fit. Note that the base does not have a tweeter mount for speakers.
Just got my 2018 HB Sport 6sp (and first stick*) a few weeks ago. Big ups to you for being a positive influence in helping me choose this car and absolutely loving and learning each day!
It's one of the best cars you can buy for around 20k, enjoy my friend!
@@FlyinGato Thank you, sir! I had to travel to dirty Jerz, and they weren't quite wanting to give up the car at the price point I requested. Nonetheless with persistence, $20.5 OTD ($500 trade included as part of the price). The more I drive, the burden of the price won't be that much of a significance any longer! Cheers.
Thanks for not flipping out about the hatch junk cover I don't know why people love that.
yea, it's just a cover, I don't even use it.... I think it's because, if you're part of the press release, Honda made a big deal out of it, so the reviewers made it a big deal too. I mean, it's a great design, but I expect nothing less from Honda, so it gets a big "meh" from me haha.
The cars are hard to find as this model is imported from swindon in the UK. Honda EU are normally a little on the slow side until they go into full production. They are tooling up for the Type R too later in 2017. The factory is also expanding to fulfil Global production rather than just EU.
Anyway it was a real good review from our cousins across the water. No biased crap, straight to the point and very thorough. Much appreciated @flyingato. Excellent job. Probably the best review I have seen.
I like it a lot, but its going to be hard to tear this tuned 1380kg Civic FN3 out of my hands. Better try my hardest to kill it :/
yea, I still haven't seen another hatchback civic here in the tri-state area that wasn't still in the dealership, and the manual ones are still very hard to find. As for the Type R, I can't wait to see it when it comes out. Thanks for the kid words btw, I'm a very amateur film guy, what I'm really trying to do is share my enthusiasm for these cars. As for your FN3, love the shape of that car, and if you already have a bond with it, it's probably best just to keep it, that's how I am with my BB6 Prelude and my S2000.
Hondata's tuning solution will be able to fix the rev hang and give you a lot better drivability. Plus, you'll be able to eek out a bunch of power.
Yup, Ktuner/Hondata and a lighter flywheel gives you a great car
In my opinion, I love the rev hang, I think it sounds amazing when you hit 6k, and Instead of shifting, just let off the gas and it rev hangs for 5 or so seconds, and turbo lag isn't good for performance, but the thrill of getting a sudden rush at a certain rpm is what gives you a smile when you drive :)
Just bought mine today. I'm so stoked on it
it's such a great car!
I just got this car and I love it. Also got a great deal on it.
It's an awesome choice.
What did u pay?
Just got a 2018 model of this today in all black, with the six speed. I must say... I'm in love already.
Awesome! You're going to love it, I miss my white orchid pearl hatch
Already love it, man! Traded in my 2012 Accord LX for it. I had some great memories in that basic car and was a bit sad to see it stripped of the license plates at the dealership. I'm hoping the next owner treats it well. Think I'll be a loyal Honda driver for a very long time!
I have heard three excuses for rev hang from automotive designers. 1. is that it helps to rev match for inexperienced drivers to save on clutch wear and components. Also prevents jerking. 2. is that it prevents flooding and unburnt fuel from entering the emissions system. Wouldn’t the computer controlled injection control that? But 3 was interesting. When a low priced vehicle is just as fun to drive as a high end sports car then those cars won’t sell nearly as often. If they don’t sell the race model then they don’t make them and without a flagship model it devalues the lower models. Interesting.
That third one is very interesting. I'm almost certain most of it is emissions related
Good review. Answered many of the questions/concerns I had about this car. Not too much of a fan with the honey comb design though. In this regard, the golf gti is a little more appealing. I am however looking for a car that is going to be reliable, so it looks like I may end up getting the Civic Sport or maybe the Type R if I can get a good price on the latter.
If you can swing it, the type R is going to be an awesome car. I just don't really need the power, as I have two other performance cars.
great video, you actually convinced me to learn manual when you took the car for a drive. My one criticism though is how you have your camera mounted on your head when you're driving it made me feel really motion sick lol
Learning to drive stick is very worthwhile if you want to really enjoy cars. As for the head movements, I agree, it was the best cam I had at the time (gopro), but now I have a nicer one, should help a bit. I do still use the go pro to show "POV" items. Thanks for the feedback, appreciate it!
Very nice and cool ride, Gato! I also love the white and black color scheme. Thankfully they blacked out the window trim chrome. Have fun and enjoy it!
Thanks! I love the black and white theme of the car!
You can turn that stripe off if you want go to your settings. It's not permanent
Let me give it a try.
I've got about 1K miles on my '17 Accord coupe 6-6AT, just picked it up a month ago. I get that same rev hang, actually. It's worse in sport mode. And it's freaking annoying as hell! If you get on throttle really heavy, then let off, that rev hang causes the car not to decelerate for about a second. Freaked me out the first time it happened! I came from an LX CVT, so the 6AT takes getting used to as the CVT does not have this rev hang. I thought I'd mention it and see if any other people with Accord 6-6ATs noticed it. Loved the vid btw, the civic hatch is the best civic ever, IMO. I like it. Even though I'm an Accord guy.
MrAnonymule I like accords too, I wish they made a 6cyl wagon 4 door with a manual, I'd have gotten that
That rev hang would drive me nuts. Honestly I don't know how a person can live with that. Other than that, it does look fun.
Brian Bailey it's only really annoying when you're trying to drive quickly, but I'll be tuning that out soon enough
The best review so far! Thank you! The others simply don't know how to drive hondas
Thanks! I am releasing a follow up tomorrow, so don't forget to subscribe!
I wish i had these empty roads and desert parking lots around to play with my car a bit more. I have to drive 1 hour to find a place like that. Nice drive!
Thanks! I'll keep doing these if people keep enjoying them.
Rev hang also helps with quick gear changes staying in high revs keeping it in the power range...
I'm getting One On January, 2018... Thanks bro
Congrats!
Excellent review and good production values. Mic sound dropped a few times so watch that in the future. I'm torn between the civic hatch and VW Golf. I like the reliability of Honda, but I prefer the look and better shifting feel of the VW. What do you think?
+NKQ55 I would go with the Civic hatch, my buddy has a GTI from 2011, and it's plagued with problems. Thanks for the kind words on the video, my newer videos have much better equipment and production
Great video rev hang is due to double mass wheel in the clutch
Man no hand ebrake? Oh well at least there's a manual/turbo option now.
there's one for sedan as well
Hard to find the 6spd manuals. Mine comes in next week! Love the videos!
Thanks bud! These are great cars, you'll love it.
Amazing car review, I learned a lot about the Civic Sport. Thank you.
Thanks for the kind words!
Good luck with your beautiful car. I really want the Hatch in Sonic Gray but the 6 speed turbo Hatch lacks a lot of the amenities I expect in a sporty car. Looks like the Coupe for me. But, man, do I really love the look of the Hatch.
If you can do without the utility, the coupe is definitely a great choice
danm civic upping their game! Very sporty looking car
In person it looks even better.
Others have said it and I will too, this is the best review of this car online right now. Is it true there's no XM/Sirius radio though? That's a huge deal breaker for me. I'm going to ask my dealer if this can be upgraded/special ordered.
Hey bud, thanks for the kind words! The Sport and LX do not have XM radio, you'd have to go EX or Touring for that. I'm so used to using my phone for audio, I was ok with it.
Thanks for confirming the rumors lol! I currently drive a 12 year old Toyota, which will probably last another 12 years. But right now I'm working on locking in the best car to get for the $$$ and desired features if/when the ol' Yota gives it up or starts being a money pit. I was damn near ready to hit a dealer after seeing this car on some pages/channels. But then one dude said no 'sat radio and I was crushed. But while it is a deal breaker, it's really not because I'm sure there's a way to have the sat head unit installed on a sport. Those wheels, engine and manual trans are just too great of a combo to compromise for the other models.
Good review. Your video is prompting me to get the Sport model although I have been thinking of waiting for the Type R. After watching your video, I am thinking about the problems I might have with the Type R in terms of paying a premium for the vehicle and the likely speeding tickets I will incur up here in Canada.
it's a really tough choice, even for me.
Lol people keep saying that. Premium is recommended not required people. Premium for higher horsepower
Hey! Great review, have you had any trouble with the oil dilution problem hitting some of those 1.5L turbos? Thanks!
Great job. I watched the night and day review. Manual transmission makes this car more sporty. I also like your choice of color. Is this hard for a new driver to drive this manual civic hatchback sport?
Thanks! I think this is probably one of the easiest ones to learn on, as it has the brake hold assist feature, which holds the brake for you until you get rolling again.
I definitely recommend the manual on this car, though, definitely transforms it to a sporty car.
thank you for your advice. Wish you have more awesome videos!
Thanks again bud, more coming soon!
No, the clutch is super light, shifter is very short throws also....
The proportion looks funny for a hatch. Maybe need spoiler like the euro civic type-R
Omg crazy high frequency playing in your background in the beginning
Sorry about that, I'm buying new equipment in the coming weeks to rectify that issue. I was using a Drift HD Ghost, a camera released 5 years ago, and I didn't notice the problem until I posted it on youtube.
How do you find a manual?
The Honda website isn't helpful, and as far as I can see, you have to search thru each franchise inventory one-by-one to see what they have available. There is no way to view a "national" inventory.
The easiest way to find the manuals is to go through edmunds and Autotrader, and do a nationwide search. I had to fly from NY to North Carolina to get my manual.
Go to Cars.com. Sort via price, distance, color, manual etc etc.
You can turn off that green/white strip, my accord had it too, its somewhere in the settings
leutrim topalli I tried to buy realized you need to have the EX and up to be able to do so
drive around for a bit warm the tires and engine.. turn traction control off, power shift into (2 if brave) 3 and 4
I've done that a number of times already, it's quite a fun car.
I really like this car. Great review!
Thanks! it was one of my early reviews, glad everyone liked it!
Hatchbacks becoming more and more popular in Canada, also I'm seeing a lot of Ford Transit vans aswell in Ontario lol..
Ford Transits have been in U.K since forever yet they are just starting to arrive in Canada now haha, Canada is seriously 10 years or more behind like lets say Britain..
Just now hatchbacks are becoming more and more popular and more efficient in Canada but this has been standard in the U.K for quite some time.
I think this exact car is actually built in U.K aswell so I heard
Hey bud, yea I'm glad the hatchback is coming back in style, it's the best car body style due to the usefulness. These are built in the UK, it's the first "British" car I own haha
I might pick it up some day if I can afford it. I've owned my Mazda 3 hatchback for 6 years and I love it, such a nice looking hatchback.
This Honda is nice though but might even wait for the Type R.
I'm happy with my sport, but the si version obviously will murder it... hope it has awd. I will upgrade if it does.
Si won't have awd, and the si is also using the same engine as the other turbo civics, so with a tune, the difference shouldn't be too bad (time will tell).
Great review! was just wondering if you test drove or driven an ex or exl? Just seeing if you kinda wanted some of the features those trims have, I was thinking of getting the ext sedan, but after seeing your reviews I'm starting to really like your car instead. Also could you do a video of your lighting kit if you have it installed?
Hey there, I test drove the LX manual, the Sport in CVT and the EX-L in CVT, and the only feature I would have liked from the EX-L are the leather seats and the keyless entry and start. The Radio was not great, touchscreen gets nice and smudged up rather quickly, and from what I have been reading on the forums, the touchscreen radio tends to be quite glitchy. I'll definitely do a review of the lighting kit I had installed on the car, post it up this weekend!
FlyinGato I kinda figured the touch screen would get glitchy at times, and I also would miss the push to star feature too and the twitter speakers on the doors as well. Also wondering what kind of cell phone mount you have? Thanks for the reply, wanted to get honest feedback from an actual owner and not some journalist and also looking forward to your lighting kit video.
Happy to help! Cell phone mount is the i Ottie, works very well in this car. www.amazon.com/gp/product/B017HME9DC/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Nice job, subscribed. Looks like that strip will mostly be white in your case. Ever take a look at the Elantra sport?
I did take a look at it actually, really nice, but the elantra sport with the 200hp engine doesn't come in hatch form. Thanks for the kind words!
engine? 2.0L?
Great review...one thing tho...i don't think you realize how limited your interaction is with the car by not having the screen display in front of you...this RPM looks good but in there you should be able to send and receive text messages, facebook notifications, on tap navigation and a multitude of functions from android auto and apple car play are on there...you can just use this space for A LOT more than just show RPM and speed and this is what the other models with a screen offer...no offense tho very nice car i love honda i have a 2020 Sport coupe 6 speed manual in black myself.
It's the 1.5 turbo
I hate the fact that this car is not sold on my country
Good review but imo the wide angle lens you use makes everything look stretched out. It's kinda hard to see the details
I agree, I'll be doing more videos with a new camera I started using, no more wide angle.
What would you recommend when someone gets a first car after only driving rentals, put on a few years of driving experience first on a Civic Sport Plus and then maybe get an R with some losses or go directly with the R and just drive it "slow" but have less losses?
Are you experiencing problem with your smart entry? Like when you are away for a long period of time, you can't unlock it with just by hand. But if you lock it and open it right away, it unlocks. Also, when you start the car and you go out to open the hatch, it wont open.
Hey bud, I've read about Civic owners having this problem, I think some keyless entry systems have bugs that need to be worked out. On my car, since I don't have that system, I don't have that problem. I have the "old fashioned" remote unlock plus key (standard on the LX and Sport).
FlyinGato I see. This is why i prefer keys over push start/smart entry or whatever. Less problem. And it kinda sucks I cant open the hatch while the engine is running. I had to turn it off to open it. I dont get that idea
Oh wow, I definitely have not had that problem, I can basically do whatever I want with the doors of the car.
brake hold only works if your seat belt is on.
I got same car and color lol love it get compliments all the time
I know, me too!
Hey FlyingGato, what a beautiful car! I got the same one but with black interior and it's the LX model. Do you know if they sale the blacked out weather strips for this car? The ones that are found on the sport model. Thanks.
thanks! There's nothing reputable out yet for that, but if you want an easy fix, look into plati-dip, really easy to do.
what is your opinion on the honda,fit? I have a 2015 and really it's a great car but I don't know much about cars. I really want to get the sport touring manual. but having paid 3 years of my fit already I'm wondering if it's worth it. what do you think?
thanks again for the video and review very helpful.
The Fit is very good in terms of storage space and capacity, it's also good on gas. The only thing I don't like too much is the lack of performance compared to the turbo Civic. If I were you, I would just keep the Fit for now, keep it for another couple of years, save up some money then trade it up for something really nice, maybe a Type R?
Excuse my ignorance, but 'Rev hang' won't apply to the cat will it? (My wife insists on an automatic).
Good review no bull cheers..
Thank you for the very useful video, I just got my hatchback sport 2018 last month and trying to find a way to add a remote start. I'm living in NYC and winter is cold, so I need a remote start. How much will it usually cost to add a remote start?
Glad you enjoyed it
Big mistake I chose the CVT and now I'm having issues with it at 1245 miles of course I'm going to the dealer to get it fix but being this vehicle the second new Honda I believe this is the last one, no more Honda for me. I'm back to Nissan.
That sucks! I was definitely skeptical of the CVT, and always have been, no matter from what manufacturer. Manuals have been around for a very long time, the quirks and issues have all been worked out.
I really enjoyed your review of the 2017 Honda Civic. I own a 2017 Honda Civic hatch sport the model before yours (turbo was unavailable) my wife has a 2012 Honda Civic hatch as well. I purchased mine because I loved driving hers. Both models are made in the U.K, build quality is excellent, the new model just released is made in Thailand. I can already see some cost cutting in the new model, different tyre manufacturer, ours have Continental tyres, the rubber strip between the front doors and body have been removed, the base model has cheaper feeling and looking material compared to our Civics. The dash in the new model looks good but I prefer the previous model, two tiered design. The build quality is not as good as the U.K built Civic, this may improve as time goes by. I am not a fan of CVT transmissions, give me a good conventional auto every time. I found the new model not as quiet but still acceptable. What I did like is the better rear suspension, turbo motor which is excellent and the increase in size. The new model drove well and I was impressed I see where the money went. I think the hatch will sell well. I can't wait to see the Honda type R.
How did you get these seats and updraded cloth with the stock sport trim? I was under the impression you had to upgrade to the EX and above to get those seats. Do you get options to add to the stock model?
these are cloth, and in some white Civic Sport Hatches, you get these awesome seats
man that rev hang looks so annoying, it would annoy the crap out of me. not to mention chew up the clutch quick.
Yea, I'll be tuning it out at some point.
I think you did a really good job on this review dude! I'm trading in my '13 Focus ST in tomorrow for a '17 Hatch Sport. I've been test driving it over the weekend and I am fairly impressed! It doesn't have the power that the ST has, but it's almost as light as a Fiesta ST and is bigger inside than my Focus. I'm really interested in how the long term impressions will be, because the short term in the 300 miles I've put on it so far are pretty good.
Thanks! it was one of my first car review videos I ever made! ST is a great car, but the hatch sport is just better. Took mine to three track days, just needs better brake pads and fluid, and a KTUNER to wake it up a bit, it's the BESt car at around 20K
Sweet thanks man! I've been watching some of your newer videos and found it funny; the '17 I just got was traded in by my one of the Master techs at my dealership for a white Type R just like yours.
Haha! Great minds think alike! You're going to love your hatch, I miss mine
rev hang is irritating for the first few months, you'll adjust to it.
We shall see. It's only really annoying when trying to drive quickly, otherwise it's fine.
have you heard the dreaded warm start grinding noise?? since you have the 6spd i'd be willing to bet you haven't as it sounds like it's the cvt module.
Hi Jed, I haven't had any grinding noise at all. I'm almost at 1000 miles, no problems to speak of.
FG, I have a question for you, I just noticed my civic (just like yours) has this sputtering of the engine when I turn it off. Sometimes the sputtering causes the car to jerk because I let go of the clutch too soon due to the engine not shutting down right away. Let me know if you have noticed this too or it might just be me, thanks.
Hey bud, I haven't noticed any of that, and I'm pretty hard on my car.
That rear honeycomb shit is annoying to look at. Taillights are trying a bit too hard to be cutting edge. I don't care much for the front wheel fenders, either. Otherwise, it's a good Honda. I'm looking forward to the Si Coupe which will be a true 2-door hatch.
I think overall it looks ok, but I agree, some of the details, especially the rear honeycomb, I could have done without.
Interesting, I grabbed the base lx hatch in canada, and it has the touch screen 8 speeker sound and heated seats...i wonder why they are different seeing as this is the sport which has almost every option here.
In the US the LX and Sport have less options than the Canadian cars.
Bro why the shifter sounds odd ? Is it possible to become smoother by time ! Plz answer
nice ride man!i have to wait to see this car in my country for another 4 months..so can you tell me something about the engine?because it is the first time for honda to put turbo.do you afraid of that?
Hi Panos, Honda's had turbo motors for a very long time, Since the Honda City (1981). They've since had many, and most recently, the Euro type R and the US RDX had turbo engines. I think they have done very well with this engine, I have no doubts.
thank u man for the response because i am about to buy this car and i want to be sure about my choise even it is possible. The honda cars that you have in your country are from the factory from england or another?do you know anything about that?
Of course, regarding the Civic lineup, we get our sedans and coupes from Canada, but the Hatchbacks are all built in Swindon, England. My car feels very well built, panel gaps are great, everything feels well made, as a Honda should feel. The main issue people are having on these are regarding the more upscale entertainment system (mainly, the touchscreen). It's another reason I like my Sport trim, it only has the non-touchscreen radio.
well i think in every country honda has their standar but these for me are meaningless because fthere are other things more important like engine etc. in my opinion of course.you are helping me a lot and i thank u but if you want i have another i think 2 questions(my thirsty for honda(japan)).what can you tell me about mpg in city(lt here in my country)?i suppose mine roads here in athens are a lot different than yours but i want to hear and from you your opinion about that.
I tend to think the engine is also the most important thing as well, another reason I bought the Civic. As far as MPG has been, I do a lot of mixed driving, so a lot of around town (city) driving and a little bit of highway driving, and I've been getting around 35 MPG overall, and I expect it to improve a bit more after the engine fully breaks in.
hey hows the throttle lag? that seems to be a big problem with modern cars and really puts me off getting a modern manual.
throttle lag, as in when you tip into the pedal, is great! the problem is now rev hang.
ah you see i have an 07 toyota yaris, electronic throttle body like all modern cars, and it lags like hell. like im talking a second of lag between stabbing the gas and actually getting a response. it makes the car really uncomfortable to drive because getting a smooth shift when the engine is doing its own thing is damn near impossible..
the rev hang on the yaris is really really bad too, because it happens only sometimes and it makes shifting jerky as hell.
yea I get it, the 2005 TSX my fiance had (I made a review of it) had a similar issue, but the worst experience I've had so far was in an X1 I drove (also reviewed on my channel) and my friend's honda Fit. It's like, when you hit the gas pedal, it has to think about what it wants to do when it grows up before it realizes IT HAS ONE JOB TO DO! The Civic hatch Sport doesn't have the problem, thank goodness!
man im glad someone finally made an electronic throttle body that isn't completely hopeless.
Mazda 3 attracts me so much. I wonder which one is sportier.
I test drove the Mazda 3 2.5, and while that felt quite sporty, this Civic with the turbo motor has more torque and, if you get the sport package, feels more responsive.
How about the 2.0 Vtec? Does it also have rev hang?
Rev hang? Is supposed to be an automated rev matching system or something along those lines?
6kunio8 no sir, Rev hang is designed to help with emissions, I'll be tuning it out at some point
Would you cut individual holes in the honeycomb design in the front for more airflow?
you could, but I wouldn't, I don't think it needs anymore airflow than it already has.
does it have hill assist? would be nice if car doesnt roll back
It does actually, if the car detects it's on a hill, it will automatically hold the brakes for you. It doesn't do it every time, but most of the time it works.
Will you be able to drift with this car? Specially with that new emergency brake
LAX Car Service, Los Angeles Town Car Service not likely because you can't easily control the e brake
I also hate those fake honey comb grill. If you're gonna put a grill make sure it's useful other wise don't put it.
I tend to agree, but due to pedestrian safety regulations and other government mandated stuff, they had to add a lot of bulk to the car, and in order to break it up a bit, the fake grills help. The Type R uses them for brake vents, perhaps the aftermarket can make these fake vent grills work.
I fuck with the car and your fake OVO hoodie, good work
thanks!! Glad you appreciate it!
Is it FWD or AWD? I'm thinking of getting rid of my Focus ST. To many problems with it.
It's FWD, but I drove it in the snow this past weekend, and it's not bad at all (although I do recommend getting snow tires). I'd say this is almost as fast as the ST, as it is 400 pounds lighter. I test drove the ST and picked this car.
FlyinGato thank you for the reply. Ok I'm going to look into it this car then. I'm not a huge fan of AWD so to me that's great.
uh..." I'd say this is almost as fast as the ST ", dude, you have to be joking. the Focus ST is not in the same league. 250HP hot hatch, on my first test drive of the ST, I had to pull over to compose myself it was so fast. 2nd gear on the vehicle, you're practically taking flight, 3rd tapers off. The civic will move but no where near the ST, not by a mile.
While I agree that the ST is a faster car in a straight line, I would say that it's not by much. The Civic weighs 400 pounds less, which is significant in terms of weight savings. Because of that, I still think the Civic is more of a value buy than the ST.
Does it actually do mid 6's from 0-60? Motor trend tested it as being slower than the cvt, getting to 60 in 7.5 at the quickest for them
+dirty randy it all depends on the launch, a very aggressive launch will get you into the mid to high 6 second range
hey man how did you get a manual ! I want to buy a sport hatchback with a MANUAL trans . Every Honda dealer says they #1 don't have one #2 cant get one #3 Honda don't make them #4 cant order or build one #5 you have to settle for the CVT . I have a 2000 civic SI and I cant buy a new car without the manual . Do you have any suggestions please ! thank you
+Rick Danner hey bud, already filmed a video on this, will be up in the next week, I go into detail on the buying process
FlyinGato my experience has been a nightmare and Im close to getting a mazda 3 hatch
There should be a setting to turn off the green light thingy
I've looked through all the settings, and I still haven't found it. I've gotten used to juts ignoring it.
FlyinGato hmmm I'll be happy to do some research for ya. I'll let ya know what I find out!
I turned off mine but I have an ex
If you find a way, let me know! I'm shooting a video this weekend for my monthly update, and I'll mention it (and you).
yea, you may have more options through the optional bigger touchscreen.
How come you didnt get the touch screen? I want the physical knobs..
I'm very happy I didn't get the touchscreen, I think the physical controls are very good on the radio. The Sport trim in the US doesn't come with the touchscreen, and the Sport and LX models are the only ones that come with a manual option, and I just had to have the manual.
I love my '15 sedan, but the lease is up in a year and I'm trying to decide if I'm going to keep it or lease a new one. I like the '17 hatch sport, but there are a handful of little things I don't like that are making the decision difficult.
What don't you like about it?
FlyinGato Little things like the fake honeycomb grills, the feel of the cloth, and the feel of the buttons on the wheel and dash (they feel cheap and clicky, imo). Stuff like that. Only thing I dislike about my sedan is the CVT. So I need to weigh a bunch of little things against one big thing. At least I still have time to think.
Well, you can always get the stick shift turbo sedan, if you don't mind not having a hatchback. I personally love the hatch, but that's a choice you can make.
FlyinGato I generally love the aesthetics of the Sport hatch, and I really want the turbo/manual combo. I've also recently fallen in love with hatchbacks after my brother bought a Chevy haych that has HUGE cargo space lol. Sedan would have the same cloth and cheap plastic.
Fair enough, if I were you I would just get the hatchback sport, I think the buttons are pretty good quality. The cloth seats are ok, the material is not the greatest but it'll do for a while.
can you change the display color of the radio? you can on the 2015.
Yep, you definitely can, there's 5 choices, I prefer red though.
FlyinGato thanks so much for the reply:) I'm picking one up in about a week. I'm still cofused about the color of the rims, they appear to be black however they look like a brushed metal on the honda website. great videos!
They are a shiny black, and thanks for the kind words, happy to help!
What do you think of the shifter
Do you get a rearview camera when you back up on the Sport or EX? excuse my bad english.
Hey bud, you have great English skills. All hatchbacks have backup cameras in the US.
Thanks man!. I was deciding between the Sport and EX but I don't care for sunroof or push to start. Maybe the touch screen or the cameras on the side-mirrors are cool but IDK.
Thank you for these videos. They're awesome.
Thanks for the kind words! Honestly, I prefer the non touch screen audio, the Sport is such a good value, and remember, the Sport has better steering rack, it's .2 inches lower than the other ones, and you can really feel it.
I was thinking about getting this same exact trim! What was the price out the door? If you don't mine me asking..
never a problem my man. You have to consider sales tax (for me it was 8.5%), out the door was 22,500. I'll be posting a video of my buying process this weekend, if you want to know exactly how I did it.
FlyinGato thatd be great!
I've been trying to buy this car but it's not available in 6mt anywhere.
Yea, it's not easy to find, best bet is to use Autotrader or Edmunds to look for inventory in your general area
HOw much was the total cost of the car if you dont mind me asking.
arnoldgd84 it's going for right around 21-22
Hi, there.. Since the very first time the civic coupe was shown as a prototype for the new 10 gen civic, that i am in love... Here in my country, it started to be sold since 2017, and this year, i finally got to buy one hatchback 1.5 sport... i am in love, could drive it hours and hours, it's something unexplainable... but, maybe unfortunatly, i have one question, that i would like you to answer me if you can... In the US, or north-america, do you have to do the oil change at 5.500 miles?? is it normal for you guys? My civic started to ask to go to the dealers service for oil change.. i am a bit surprised.. Can you tell me anything about this?
tks
yea that's pretty normal bud, I would follow what the car is telling you
@@FlyinGato 👍 tks
i gotta say this civic lookd sexy
it looks even better in person, I've started seeing them on the street more recently, looks amazing.
FlyinGato great design by honda in and out👌👏👏Honda
Does it have a cassette player?
it doesn't I find that the phone does a great job with the bluetooth though.
love the wheels!badass!
I originally didn't like them, but they realy are good, especially in this color combo.
It does look good to me.
I like it!
flashpro fixes the rev hang, that nothing new my 09 civic si had it until i flashed it
they still haven't figured it out last I checked, but they are working on it.