Assorted Darksiders Lore: Hell, The Dark Prince, The Archon

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  • @StarboyXL9
    @StarboyXL9 6 років тому +18

    The Archon is hands down my favourite boss in the Darksiders series. The music, the mechanics, the voicelines, he's just such an awesome boss to fight!

    • @TrueMastersandMorons
      @TrueMastersandMorons  6 років тому +2

      He's a very cool and unique character for sure, and we're always glad to keep hearing that voice actor doing things. So we agree, plus taking on something that powerful is always fun.

    • @TheStraightestWhitest
      @TheStraightestWhitest 6 років тому

      @@TrueMastersandMorons Atkin Downes voices literally everyone lmao! Insane variety.

    • @anathar1942
      @anathar1942 3 роки тому

      @@TrueMastersandMorons I have a few things to tell you guys
      1 i never EVER imagined seeing Gollum in a Darksiders video which is at the same time, surprising and annoying which brings to point 2, why annoying? well because it seems like no matter where i go on the internet i almost ALWAYS find something Gollum related whether it is on videos Video games or videos in general or in game/figurine selling stores and because i can immitate is voice pretty well in both english and french (even in personality tests😭😤)
      And 3 to answer your question the Seraphim is for the Angels what Lilith and the Princes of Hell are to demons (just like them they are the first generation of their species to be created, and also tend to have multiple wings)

  • @fabiandonvil
    @fabiandonvil 6 років тому +13

    if i remember correctly, somewhere in the games they say that the dark prince's time is ending. that he is in the final stages of his rule. i always thought this to be a reference to how samael's power is said to be great enough to be a threat to the prince of lies and we - as war- restored his power and freed him. after all the keys aren't entrusted to low level demons and angels, but beings of great power.

    • @TrueMastersandMorons
      @TrueMastersandMorons  6 років тому +2

      There is a point in one of the comics where that comment is made (if it's said the games too we can't remember where). But that is true, Samael's power was fully restored, and if ever there was a motivation to vie for control of the throne, it's after years of imprisonment.

  • @Grimreaper14107
    @Grimreaper14107 6 років тому +36

    Could we get a vid on the true forms of the horse men including speculation on fury’s and strifes

  • @Locahaskatexu
    @Locahaskatexu 6 років тому +17

    ....Except Seraphim have *six* wings (or sixfold wings), Cherubim have four wings (or fourfold wings) so Lucien is probably a Cherub

    • @richardch.4356
      @richardch.4356 3 роки тому +1

      Than the same thing could said about useil since he also has four wings and yes I know I'm late

  • @OmegaSai
    @OmegaSai 6 років тому +2

    Sorry I havnt been here in a minute, life has been catching up haha glad to be back to you guys still kickin ass! I’d recommend a video on the true forms of the Horsemen? Ex: War is Chaos and Death is Reaper!

  • @Thraka5
    @Thraka5 6 років тому

    Another excellent video! You both do an excellent job at putting all the little pieces together most of us glaze over until it presented and the light bulb comes on.

    • @TrueMastersandMorons
      @TrueMastersandMorons  6 років тому

      Thank you so much, we try to make everything cohesive and easy to digest, glad we seem to be succeeding :)

  • @UnseelieFaelass
    @UnseelieFaelass 6 років тому +1

    Three things:
    1. I have that copy of the Divine Comedy! I recieved it as a gift from my English Teacher when I was a Sophomore or Junior.
    2. Also, I was one of the ones who told you that. Glad to know you caught that as well. Yay!
    3. Look up Rosescythe, you won't be disappointed. They've made covers for nearly every song on the Darksiders 2 soundtrack. Stains Of Heresy is the Archon's theme and my favorite theme in the game, as well as my fave cover by Rosescythe. I'd also recommend their covers of the Trailer Theme, Crowfather Theme, and The Guardian Theme.

    • @UnseelieFaelass
      @UnseelieFaelass 6 років тому

      Also, everything I see the Archon fall down once you defeat him, I can't help but wonder how Death got the key. The Archon was still holding it as far as we knew.
      So either Death took if off his hands once he ran him through with Harvester.
      Or in a more funny scenario, he had to go get the key off of the dead body of the Archon that was now several thousand feet underneath him at the least. Womp womp womp.
      Course chances are he grabbed it during the stabbing with Harvester part, but imagine if the game actually made you ride Despair down to those pretty fields and forests again trying to find this dead bastard to get the key. Or if they played it out as a cutscene for a bit of humor. Course it could've given them a chance to play with us again by either having Lilith contact him by saying something like, "You're so close now." or "Yes my child, soon now....soon you'll have your brethren restored to you."
      Or hell even another being could contact him during such a search. That being Absalom, which could be used to give us more insight on the relationship he and Death had. Aside from being close knit brothers. Perhaps Corruption's way of trying to lead Death to fall as Absalom did? Or we could even get another memory triggered by something during the search. One that gives again, insight, into the relationship Death had with Absalom before the events that led to Absalom's demise came to pass.
      Just a little something to make interesting conversation and to poke a bit of fun.

    • @TrueMastersandMorons
      @TrueMastersandMorons  6 років тому

      1. That's awesome, we've only ever spark noted or watched videos on the Divine Comedy, one of these days we'll get around to actually reading it though, interesting stuff in that book.
      2. Yes, and thanks for that insight! It hadn't occurred to us before it was mentioned.
      3. We will do that when we get a chance, different takes on music are always interesting.
      As for Death's grabbing the key, we thought the same thing when he took the flame scythes from Bheither, we were like "What? How? When?"
      Corruption talking in Death's head would be baaaad news, but the others would be interesting!

    • @UnseelieFaelass
      @UnseelieFaelass 6 років тому

      I found a video you guys are gonna love. Horsing Around with Grim Reaper by TearofGrace. Hilarious in so many ways.

  • @Mustafa_9628
    @Mustafa_9628 6 років тому +7

    18 days till darksider3 and counting🤩❤

  • @NATEDOG
    @NATEDOG 6 років тому

    Thanks for doing a video on Hell like i requested! Also thanks for including my comment in the video!

    • @TrueMastersandMorons
      @TrueMastersandMorons  6 років тому

      Thanks for the request! We like doing topics that are viewer requested, so we're happy to include the comments :)

  • @mysticnights6621
    @mysticnights6621 6 років тому +1

    Love your guys's videos i learn something new every video

  • @AuthoressPluto
    @AuthoressPluto 6 років тому +4

    Hey fellas great video as always! So I'm curious for your opinion... You know how in Darksiders 1 Lilith was the disembodied voice and was revealed in Darksiders 2? Well, do you think that since the Dark Prince was the disembodied voice in Darksiders 2 that HE may be revealed in the upcoming Darksiders 3? Also, if you meet and work with Samael in D1 then fight him in D2... do you think in D3 we'll get to fight Lilith? I would LOVE to fight Lilith! I'm probably just overthinking this and looking for patterns but I can't help it since I'm so freakin' excited for the upcoming game!!!!
    You guys need to do a lore on Ostegoth please! I just rewatched all your lore videos yesterday so I really think you should at least mention our goat pal Ostegoth in an assorted video. Especially since its implied that the Nephilim may have been the ones to wipe out his people... Oh and maybe Karn cause he's just so adorable trying to be helpful and all. He really is like a 'Pup', eager to go adventuring and please people.

    • @TrueMastersandMorons
      @TrueMastersandMorons  6 років тому +1

      It's entirely possible that we will we expect to see him at some point in the game series and her being on a sanctioned council mission could be a perfect excuse for the council to intervene thus allowing contact with him without being allowed to fight him. As for fighting Lilith it's totally possible (and even kind of likely as a known female antagonist) So i guess what we're saying is "yeah anything's possible just got to wait and see. :P"

  • @wesleyvl8572
    @wesleyvl8572 6 років тому +2

    Thank you for makking this video dudes

  • @K.A.Noires
    @K.A.Noires 6 років тому

    I can't wait for you guys to cover the loads of lore in DS3!

    • @TrueMastersandMorons
      @TrueMastersandMorons  6 років тому +1

      We can't wait to delve in once we get to the end of the game as well. :)

  • @Famine2021
    @Famine2021 Місяць тому

    5:25 Seraphim are higher up on the totem pole of angel.

  • @Awecyan32
    @Awecyan32 6 років тому +2

    Could you do a video on the other items war and death get along their journeys, like the "portal gun" and the "hookshot" and stuff like that?

  • @Iceburgslim_
    @Iceburgslim_ 3 дні тому

    Thank you so much 🫡

  • @tonesdad0408
    @tonesdad0408 6 років тому

    Awesome lore vid playaz, I won't ask for a Galamoth one since I already have before but that would be nice since YT has none as of now.

  • @novadselir1068
    @novadselir1068 6 років тому +1

    Ahhh memories

  • @rickwitt7373
    @rickwitt7373 6 років тому +1

    Grim down below has a wonderful idea even I would love to hear about, what about the like special forms of the riders? Fury's purely as speculation

  • @hewhogoesevenfurtherbeyond9296
    @hewhogoesevenfurtherbeyond9296 6 років тому +5

    The devil's card kind of looks like Wars chaos form

    • @TrueMastersandMorons
      @TrueMastersandMorons  6 років тому +5

      We'd agree with that, War's Chaos form has always had a particularly demonic look to it.

  • @joelclough8612
    @joelclough8612 6 років тому +3

    What about why the four horseman apposed the nephilim and why they grew sick of them. What made them so unique to be chosen as the four?

    • @elijahwatson3474
      @elijahwatson3474 6 років тому +5

      2 opening said they grew tired of the slaughter and feared the crusade will be a danger to the balance. Through 3 and 4 could give us more details of why they betrayed their own kind in the future.

    • @TrueMastersandMorons
      @TrueMastersandMorons  6 років тому +2

      Elijah is correct, and we go over that a bit in this video on the Nephilim, hope it helps answer your questions :)
      Link: ua-cam.com/video/h_oN_1FCZfY/v-deo.html

  • @baraka490
    @baraka490 2 роки тому

    The devil card also resembles when war transforms

  • @StOrMo0914
    @StOrMo0914 6 років тому

    Could you do a discussion about the crucible and the serpent holes

  • @waynejulian277
    @waynejulian277 5 років тому +1

    for those who are wondering the phrase seraphim is the collective name given to the angels who served directly under god in the book of revelations archangels like michael gabriel and even lucifer (before his fall from grace) as such the seraphim are the most powerful angels in heaven they are only a single step below god in terms of power

  • @tristanwhite5182
    @tristanwhite5182 6 років тому

    We need a video on the horsemen’s chaos forms

  • @LordofDarknessX
    @LordofDarknessX 3 роки тому

    0:40
    it's not nine hells, but 9 *Circles of Hell*

  • @cls357
    @cls357 6 років тому

    Between War and Death, who is stronger and who has the better weaponry that may make up for any weaknesses either may have?

    • @TrueMastersandMorons
      @TrueMastersandMorons  6 років тому +3

      Specifically War and Death? War is straight up a beefy tank, Death is the Melee DPS of the group for sure. But the interesting addition here of Weaponry that makes up for the weaknesses definitely pushes Death into the lead. War and all the weapons he gains are big strong hits that aren't really fast, he can dodge and dash but all in all not exceptionally agile. Even the Harvester that War get's he uses as a big two handed sweeping attack of death. Where as Death is agile and made for speed while still being quite strong, BUT he has weapons like the Giant two handed maces, axes and such that make him slower but more powerful, and even the gauntlets and such that allow for more agile but weaker attacks. Not to mention Unlike in War's game Death can swap out equipment weapons, armor, and such as the situation requires. War is stuck with one of two armors and 3 weapons.
      In our opinion War gets more fun toys that make up for some of those deficiencies but all in all Death wins.

    • @the_dropbear4392
      @the_dropbear4392 6 років тому +1

      Lore wise death is stronger and is virtually unlikable (took chaos eater thorough the chest and didn't even flinch, the preceded to chop wars arm off

  • @knightdriven4202
    @knightdriven4202 4 роки тому

    I always imagined the devil to look like...argh whats his name, Lady's father out of Devil May Cry. No wings, no horns, just a plain looking dude. Can probably take on a more powerful form, but uses his normal form as a sort of mind fuck.."hes the ruler? But hes so normal?"

    • @DCMarvel2009
      @DCMarvel2009 4 роки тому +1

      You're talking about Arkham, the guy who "manipulated" Vergil? And who could turn into the Jester?

    • @knightdriven4202
      @knightdriven4202 4 роки тому

      @@DCMarvel2009 thats the bugger!

  • @cls357
    @cls357 6 років тому

    Can you do a video on those differences please?

    • @TrueMastersandMorons
      @TrueMastersandMorons  6 років тому

      Differences between?

    • @cls357
      @cls357 6 років тому

      @@TrueMastersandMorons Between War and Deaths powers, weaknesses and steeds.

  • @ninjammer726
    @ninjammer726 6 років тому

    please do a metal gear lore video on all the metal gear mechs and major zero!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @brandongary8234
    @brandongary8234 6 років тому

    Darksiders 3 November 26 and could you guys do a power ranking of which horseman can beat sameal dark prince and some of the most powerful one on one

    • @drkirbkennethkirby7634
      @drkirbkennethkirby7634 6 років тому

      There's little question that death is the most powerful

    • @TrueMastersandMorons
      @TrueMastersandMorons  6 років тому

      So we also personally believe it is death. (to be fair we do have more info on him than any other horseman) the only thing that brings doubt into our minds is a comment made by one of the creators of DS 3 where in they stated "With Darksiders 3 you will be playing the strongest Horseman to date" But we do personally see that as "Fury has her council sanctioned powers" Where Death wasn't on a sanctioned mission and War "technically" was but had a major power drain due to being dead and in the abyss for however long. (*whispering* Plus we're pretty sure the council was draining him because they suck)

  • @cls357
    @cls357 6 років тому

    Can you do a video on War and Death's trusty steeds?

    • @TrueMastersandMorons
      @TrueMastersandMorons  6 років тому

      So we did one where we included the Phantom Horses previously.
      ua-cam.com/video/UuN52p7s-QM/v-deo.html Hope you enjoy. :)

  • @x-dragonhunter2085
    @x-dragonhunter2085 6 років тому

    What are the horse that the horsemen ride on where they come from?

    • @TrueMastersandMorons
      @TrueMastersandMorons  6 років тому

      We actually did a video including them, link here: ua-cam.com/video/UuN52p7s-QM/v-deo.html

  • @rampage75_25
    @rampage75_25 Рік тому

    Gods, i hope they give lucifer a decent design for ds 4

  • @teleziagreyleaf2846
    @teleziagreyleaf2846 6 років тому

    Shouldn't he have six wings? Or does the black ones counts as the six pair?

    • @TrueMastersandMorons
      @TrueMastersandMorons  6 років тому

      He grows the black set of wings after Death removes two of his feathery ones. So he technically only ever has four at a time.

    • @teleziagreyleaf2846
      @teleziagreyleaf2846 6 років тому

      True Masters and Morons What I meant is an Seraphim usually have six wings and we see him here only four if you don't count the corrupted ones

  • @aureliodeprimus8018
    @aureliodeprimus8018 6 років тому

    Maybe it is too cartoonish for your taste, but i would love to hear The Story of the Jak & Daxter trilogy through your voices.

  • @king_vergil2273
    @king_vergil2273 3 роки тому

    I just saw darksiders 3 the crucibles final boss is Wicked Killington

  • @waynejulian277
    @waynejulian277 5 років тому

    the darksiders version of the tree of life is almost like the bifrost from norse mythology

  • @samreddig8819
    @samreddig8819 6 років тому +3

    Ill be honest i forgot the archon existed

  • @baraka490
    @baraka490 2 роки тому

    I've learned one thing never stick with a description for a character in an early game cuz later on apparently they're going to change the gender of a character because originally in the third game they had to change the character for some reason it was originally in the first one a male so for them dramatically change it really mean something and it really bothers me at times I don't care that it's a female I'm just upset that they changed it after the point of creation it's like why what was the point?

  • @avengerfanx
    @avengerfanx 6 років тому

    Do the Bioshock series "Would you kindly"

    • @TrueMastersandMorons
      @TrueMastersandMorons  6 років тому

      Would you kindly tell us what specifically you would like to see from it? Also keep your bird out of my cage.

    • @avengerfanx
      @avengerfanx 6 років тому

      Tell us the story of Bioshock Infinite and both burial at sea dlc @@TrueMastersandMorons

  • @slr4092
    @slr4092 6 років тому

    or final fantasy about the moogles

  • @slr4092
    @slr4092 6 років тому

    final fantasy 15, ardyn

  • @rdragon0bdragon127
    @rdragon0bdragon127 2 роки тому

    😇😇😇😇😇

  • @Grimreaper14107
    @Grimreaper14107 6 років тому +2

    First comment