Destiny 2 Forsaken Expansion Revealed & Datto's Thoughts
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- Опубліковано 25 сер 2024
- Destiny 2's next big expansion, Forsaken, has been revealed. Here's a video recapping the reveal stream with most of the information, along with my thoughts on what we saw.
Sorry if volume is a little low. My bad.
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Agreed 100%
it will be cool if they let the hunter have the bow but make the titan have a giant hammer and the warlocks have a staff that make then give buffs and shit idk
My name is Byf Hey. I know you. :o
Loremaster Byf! The rumors say he slayed 100 men with the flick of a grimoire card...
Oh shit I know that guy.
Hey your video is next...
I have now seen something I have never seen in Destiny before:
*level 50*
Sochi Kai Level 50? That's lightwork... 600 POWER
UNLIMITED PAWA
Sochi Kai probably just a place bolder for now
Just waiting for our light to be OVER 9000!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ascension experienced
Here we are, final shape about to drop, man how time flies
I was pumped that random rolls were coming back until I remembered that almost all the perks we have available in the game are complete ass.
Durgenheim and you don’t think they’ll add a single new perk?
Lol
Eh that is kind of true but let’s be honest. Even in D1 the majority of perks where garbage, and at least for me I always looked for perks that maxed my stability. Now in D2 recoil has been dumbed down so now I do feel like there is more room for better perks or even buffed perks to come with Forsaken.
Complete ass until you get a lightweight scout rifle with rampage, outlaw, and dragonfly.
Bud this is a new dlc adding in new things piece that together and that means new perks
Dad uploaded big yay
Dad commented big yay
God Damn it, W h e r e ' s m y s p i r e i n a n u t s h e l l (AKA Free Ad Revenue)
I thought you said "uploaded big gay" lmao I'm dirty ):
I hope that Dad trend ends soon. Creepy and pathetic af
Th3Jez
It's 'Daddo' not 'Dad'
I want 3 shotguns vs Calus challenge video
Forcer
Dude you are a genius
Forcer ooo thats gonna melt him litterally but you do have to becareful cause some will use the same ammo i think i saw
And here are you again i onestly thought you were dead.
Nah its 3 sidearms in the calus raid.
@TheOmegaRexx Did you forget the "h" in "honestly"..?
Dreaming City looks like Asgard
Looks more like altheim on God of War
Adam Zerdin i was gonna day dreamlands from hp lovecraft mythos
Adam Zerdin nope Asgard looks like dreaming city
Dalton Craig that’s what I was thinking too. Very Norse definitely.
Huh. I got a very Tolkien, Rivendell vibe.
"I assume people won't people able to use 2 or 3 rocket launchers"
Me with mountain top, orwings maul, and prospector
So, three grenade launchers
laughs in ignition code, truthteller and anarchy
@@richardcarson3596laughs in reprised mountaintop forebarence and edge transit
IF I CAN'T EQUIP 3 SWORDS SO HELP ME
That would be so fucking great to see
Daniel Biancalana well no, swords and rocket launchers were customized for only heavy slots, grenade launchers can be secondary, but sure as hell not primary.
3 Quickfangs
you're not alone my friend. :)))
HOW DO U KNO?! LET MEH BE SUPAH NINJA!
That's cool and all, but I want my heavy machine gun back. I miss Thunder Lord.
Go to 2:50 in the vidoc :)
uuu yea
I watched it again at that time, and didn't see anything. Was it the gun the warlock was holding, or am I not looking at the right time/part of the screen?
Yup. If you look at the bungie employee's monitor right around that time you can see the whole gun, it definitely looks like a machine gun. And it reaaaaaaally sounds like one, too. They better be back, they are still my favorite weapons in the whole destiny universe.
I also want to see the return of machine guns badly, and I agree with the sound, but it looks to me like just a new auto rifle (the look of it, plus it has the auto rifle weapon logo in the sub-menu). I could be wrong, but that's wht I see when i watch that clip. That said, if it does turn out to be a MG, i'll be extremely surprised, and extremely happy.
“I don’t know the scope of these updates. No one does.”
*Well mr Datto I’ve got news for you*
It shouldn't be free at all, but it's too bloody expensive.
Needing to own all the previous DLCs to get the most recent one is insane, I think it's not really possible to say if the annual pass is worthy of that price because we don't know exactly what's in it yet. but when Forsaken comes out if I want to jump into Destiny 2 it's gonna cost me like £95 ($127) just to play the content that is actually in any way supported, which is utterly insane. more than double the price of another full price game for just one game.
When Taken King came out for destiny 1 I paid £40 and got everything I needed to have an absolutely fantastic time. If they did the same thing as the taken king and I only had to pay £40 (or let's say £50 for Forsaken and the annual pass), I would happily pay because it's a ton of fun, but this is ridiculous.
Value is relative but personally, I have to draw the line at them over doubling the fucking price for something that is about the same level of quality.
Your comments are wise, and your screen name is fantastic. I would like the recipe please.
How much is £40 in real money??
I paid 60$ for d1, then 35$ for expansion pass, then 40$ for ttk, that's 135$ when year 2 came out.
As for d2, I paid 60$ for it, 30$ for expansion pass since it was bundled, and 40$ for forsaken. Its 5$ less not including the annual pass but ttk didn't have more content added to it until rise of iron came out. As for d2 expansions currently, they're on sale in the ps store and I expect them to be on sale close to forsaken's launch
Agreed. I paid $100 for the Y1 content because I loved D1 so much and it turned out to be the biggest waste of $100 that I’ve ever spent. Now they want $70 more dollars? Pass.
I'd also say that you don't need the DLC to get the majority of the fixes, just the new "content". If you look at the Development Road Map and look at what has been delivered (despite the crazy reason they have of naming some of them after the DLC just because they come out at the same time) they are all available to people that have vanilla Destiny 2. My impression is that everything in 2.0.0 is going to be for everyone as well, you just won't have any of the DLC specific stuff, so no triumphs for Curse, Warmind, Forsaken etc. DLC locked exotics/gear/emotes etc will also probably not appear in your collections, but the rest should be there.
I also hear a lot of complaints about price, and as others have said I think everyone is going to have an opinion on it. I got the Digital Deluxe of D2 on PS4 on release, so £90, but I've put in over 330 hours of active game time. I've completed £40-£50 games in 10-20 hours before and haven't complained. Don't get me wrong, D2 was disappointing in so many ways, but I still enjoy playing it and putting my hours in.
When the warlocks have turned into super sayians
Except that super is absolute trash, just like Dragonball.
"I am not one of those people so take that as you will."
And like that my respect for you just jumped 10,000 spaces forward into Optimal DPS Range Datto.
Edit: DPS in this case being Delight Per Second.
William Beck Likewise. Bungie fucked up big time, but that doesn't mean they owe us free content; ESPECIALLY on this level.
No content shouldn't be free, but basically having to pay for a whole new game that's only just DLC is stupid when a large portion of it is made to fix the game they didn't finish. Of course it should not be freen but it shouldn't be $70. Plus it blows my mind his main issue is the fact that you have to buy curse of sh*t DLC to even play it! When instead it should be the fact you're paying the price of a new game period..
First of all, you're not paying 70 dollars for this DLC. You can pay 70 dollars for this DLC *AND* future content that will be released over the following year, but the DLC itself is only $40 and the annual pass is $30. The two are separate purchases, don't clump them together, it's intellectually dishonest. Not to mention that if this is going to deliver everything they've outlined thus far (which to an extent it has to be, otherwise that's a legal issue), I think it's perfectly reasonable to price it at 40 dollars. Does it fix a lot of things that should have been that way from the beginning? Yes, but that's not what you're paying for. You're paying for the content provided: a new raid, patrol space (or two), game mode, story missions, etc., not bulk shader deletion, lore tab in game, etc. They have to make money to function as a company, and if we want content drops in the future even close to what this promises or even what expansions like Rise of Iron have delivered in the past, they can't afford to charge any less, let alone give it away for free. This takes time, resources, effort and a lot of communication with the community. As Datto said: that line of thinking is frankly delusional.
LeftwardGlobe16 I'm not being Bungie suck boys like so many others... And pointing out the obvious issues here is doing everyone a favor. People are so fanboy over this game they're not seeing anything beyond "NEW CONTENT!" They want us to buy a DLC that fixes a game they broke(not saying DLC should be free), which the fixes should be just a free update. Then this "Pass" they're trying to sell is under the radar just updates that should be free like any other update, but now is a part of their monetization scheme... The fact that they have to run some kind of deal to make it so people don't have to buy the last two DLC in order to even play this one itself is an issue. You have to have the base game with all DLCs up to date in order to play. Which comes out to be a lot of money for free fixes to the game and paid DLC
Thing is that most of the fixes will be free whether you buy the DLC or not. All of the quality of life changes are universal, they're edits to the sandbox and therefore don't require purchasing the DLC to access. Again, you're buying access to the content, not the fixes, those come regardless.
As for the pass, maybe I'm misinterpreting something, but in my understanding those are content updates aswell, not fully sized DLC like Warmind (which is probably why when you break the price down by the number of releases it comes down to 10 dollars per release rather than the regular 20), but still something that takes enough time and resources to warrant pay. And again, it's still a separate purchase that you can choose to skip out on entirely.
Do I agree that these changes should not be needed in the first place? Yes. Do I think it's scummy business practice to require people to buy a game piece-meal? Yes. Do I think that this should come with a heavily discounted bundle with the other DLCs and base game like TTK did (which was 40$ for the whole package if I remember correctly)? Yes. But I also think that we shouldn't be complaining about Bungie *improving* their game. That's not constructive criticism.
We made it datto, it turned out okay
So, Destiny 3.... given how they have handled both D1 and D2 the optimal time to buy D3 would be the year AFTER it comes out.
D. H. That’s when I bought D2
about that
@@TheKupaKeep420 yeah, not gonna happen for a long time if at all
@@danhealy79 they confirmed it isn't happening, ever they even said lightfall isn't the last expansion and there gonna keep going
@@youraveragehotdog6836 dude, you see my comment was from 2 years ago, right?
I commented on the official reveal, but I will stress as much as I have too. *Keep our expectations in check* . We still don’t know enough details and we don’t know how it will fair in comparison to the TTK expansion. Regardless, I’d say this is what Destiny 2 needed.
I commented on that video that this is their last chance for me. If this expansion is great I'll be happy. However when Destiny 3 rolls around I'm going to be careful. If they haven't learned what people want from Destiny and Destiny 2 then I am not getting it. We can not have massive regressions in the third game. It shouldn't take 2 years to "learn" what players want when you have other games in the same series to draw from. They better make this shot count, because if it's bad then it's over for me.
Rains i know i should keep my expectations in check but im a major destiny geek and and my hype train is already left the station
Fair enough.
I'm not upset about paying for DLC. I'm upset about paying full-price for half-assed DLC and then being asked to pay full price for more DLC with "it'll be better this time. We promise. For real" tacked onto it. I'm kinda bummed that there isn't another physical collector's edition like there was with TTK, but I'm kind of glad at the same time, because that's the only reason I would have paid in advance for it.
I like the game, or the idea/ potential of it. And I want it to be good. I feel like Bungie lost a lot of trust within the community and I hope they can earn it back. But asking $30/40/70/80 for product that won't be released until 3 months from now and intermittently for another 8 REALLY isn't helping their case and kinda makes it seem like they [still] don't give a shit about the players.
Elias Garcia yeah its like the 10th time they said "its going to be better this time guys" and people keep falling for it.
I agree 100%
Imagine what warframe could create with destiny 2s budget
Royal Shark fuck warframe
Royal Shark Ikr
Hated Warframe tbh
Perhaps a mechanically functional and enjoyable game?
Some garbage
I remember this as peak destiny; the forsaken era was the best destiny has ever been and it will be very tough for destiny to ever be this great again.
witch queen was better imo
Like how the time stamp for your thoughts is 13:37
RJ Lopez thanks
It looks like the bow is accurate in the air. Every time it shows up in the reveal they're shooting it while jumping
Alejandro Matheu Good eye, glad I'm not the only one who noticed. Alot of hardcore PvP players hate the reductions to in-air accuracy, so this is a pretty elegant answer imo
At least in Destiny 2 you can shoot (and kill) people while in the air with a shotgun. D1, you either have to be physically on top of them or lucky as fuck to get a kill. Plus, getting a dropshot headshot from above with a slug shottie is always a good time. Can't wait to pull that off with a bow....
It will work like the hunter super does. ie it will jump you off the floor when you fire, classic bungie reusing of assets.
The cost issue for me is not "paying for fixes". It's the over monetization of the game with the ever verse store and paid expansions. Pick one.
@Sneaklone the whole game is cosmetic
I come from the future to tell you Forsaken is the best expansion
Can confirm
I really hppe that they let us mix and mach perks from subclass trees like in d1. They say they want us to be able to play the way we want, and that could open up some interesting combonations.
Jooshly123 i doubt that’s what they’ll do. I’m pretty sure that it’s just gonna be another 4 perks that you choose in a subclass. However i would like for them to bring that back from D1
Yes i want invis shadestep with multiple quivers
Completely agree
I wouldn't mind if they added a third perk wheel for each subclass,and gave us the option to choose like 6-8 of the perks on any wheel, that would be ok.
Jooshly123 Precision damage/increasing damage and 6 golden gun shots. That right there is why there’d be some harsh restrictions.
As much as I like Destiny, $70 is a steep price for a game that I've lost almost all of my trust in. It isn't good to make overpriced content a community that has been let down to such extremes. Good will is needed to make this game better than it has been, and the first place to do this is with the price.
I'm not saying that is shouldn't be there, all I'm saying is that this seems like a somewhat misguided move for a game that needs the respect of the community to continue as the game has been doing for the past four years.
Garrett Carpenter I'm encouraging everyone I know, and anyone online that will listen, not to pre-order. If they see that people aren't just blindly throwing money at them MONTHS beforehand then maybe they'll actually notice.
I think it's more that people are mad that forsaken isn't a part of the expansion pass which people have spent 40$ for
ExoticWolfo54 i mean the price is literally a scam
Having to pay for a paid game should be illegal
Came back 5 years later gust to see what all we got… oh man we where eating back then
It's only taken a whole year for Mass shader deleltion smh
tracy keeble in another year they will add machine guns back
who cares, its coming and that is STILL not enough for people like you? there were way more pressing issues the rest of us wanted to deal with first.
byghostlight0 Making a simple button with some calculated dismantle rewards is a hotfix change. Making it take a year because “other important things” when the content we got was more meh than ever.
So yeah picking on them for that is definitely allowed.
nice job pumping this out on the same day as reveal
Thanks for covering this Datto! I’m so excited for the next expansion especially now that I have a full idea of what’s going on! Keep up the great work!
all these changes to forsaken are neat but the biggest change this game needs is being able to delete shaders all at once instead of 1 at a time
Can’t wait for the new solar Titan super. Imagine that in PVP. It would be terrifying to see coming at you lol
Can't wait to see how y2 mayhem plays out with all this
Tigerstorm 6 i imagine you would be a tad bit slower tho, for it to be balanced
Out of the 9 new supers, I wanna use that solar hunter. Flaming knives 😩
All of these supers look terrifying, especially the stormcaller shooting that giant energy beam.
Wraith DIOOOOOOOOOOOOO
TRIPLE SHOTGUN MEMES ARE COMING FOR US
guys guys guys, i just rewatched the destiny 2 campaign ending and realised something huge, the scene where the sphere of light expands into space, goes past all the known dlcs in order, first mercury, then mars, then the reef. So my theory is that after forsaken is a dreadnaught dlc then finally the darkness dlc.
I heard "death from above style slam attack" and now I'm sold.
$70 for all that and you see no problem with that......best PR guy in the business.
This expansion looks very promising, but I still can’t believe the game didn’t launch with a lot of these features.
I expected the dlc to be $30 to $40 based off past history, but was surprised with the $30 extra price tag for the annual pass
I think the way random roles should be done is that the last perk is always the same and then barrels/sights and the selectable perks are random that way we don’t have another eyasluna situation
This trailer looks so damn promising
Just like every disappointing game with a good looking trailer. Not saying this will be bad, but thats a fact nowadays, few devs are really trustworthy, Bungie is no more worthy of that.
So did Destiny 2. Remember the gameplay premiere?
Malcolm X I like your picture :D
Raptor Rumble Thanks dude. I see u too are a man of culture ^^
2:24 On the left monitor an early render of Petra can be seen confirming she’ll be back
Nice shout
Yeah boy
I am coming back for this, thats for sure. When you add in the previous updates (ranked etc) they have put in all i wanted.
I haven’t played destiny since before the dlc’s came out but this makes me want to get back into it
"Game is bad, fixes cost money. REEE."
Accurate.
The fixes are free :) only the additional content is paid
TheLegend27 "additional content" is the fix. the base game is just bad
Cavalka Br with random rolls it should be fine. That was the only problem
Cavalka Br no. They're changing the base systems. It'll be a patch like all other patches. No DLC required.
Content costs money, fixes are free
Optimal DLC?
The Stranger's Rifle bruh where yo muma mrs exo stranger
damn that’s how you know this is an old account
The Stranger's Rifle hottest gun in d1?
O. P. T. I. M. A. L
Bungie: "Prestige lair for expassion 1 and 2 will come out on July 17th."
Datto: "FINALLY"
Dreaming city looks like a dream come true
Datto, you can buy the game then let ur followers know if its worth buying or not. I fell into the hype too many times and have been let down lol. This time im holding back and not getting sucked into pre orders or dlcs anymore
Timofee And this is exactly why I'm encouraging everyone I know, and anyone online that will listen, not to pre-order and blindly throw money at Bungie for something that could be absolutely garbage.
A_ Troll_ same bro I'm making sure my Fireteam think before they buy. We gotta stoop the money scam at the source.
I did not buy Curse of Osiris which turned out to be a smart decision that influenced me not getting Warmind. It’s going to take a lot more than a cute reveal to get me to spend my money on this franchise again especially if i need to buy both of the previous packs just to play Forsaken...
iAmZeke_ yeah if I have to buy the last 2 dlcs to get forsaken I'm leaving destiny for good
Just play the base game, no DLC, when the update goes live. For free. Then buy it if you like it.
“Perhaps we’ve done too much” someone says in the vidoc (or something like this).
Remember when they said: “Destiny 2 has too much story”?
Just wait, don’t preorder, they need to deliver first.
They've already made the comments that the Sandbox changes etc to fix things are in the UPDATE, NOT The DLC download. They've explicitly called this out.
The only thing I can think of that why we would need both expansions is that we might have to go back to mercury and mars in forsaken
*whispers*
Eververse.....
lolosh99 the perfect response to everyone saying "dlc takes money to make" yeah well that's what their slot machine is for! A high quality expansion at $40 I can understand but a bunch of low content lack luster dlc's? No.
Stfu
Minimal then why even have it lol I'm sure they are still making something off it cause it would of been changed if it wasnt
SHE SAID SHE WANTED TO EXPRESS HERSELF.
SO I GAVE HER A T H U M B S U P
Can't wait for Dattos Bow only Calus
you know that timestamp was not by accident
if you look at the purple laser beam in 0.25 speed, it looks like a new trace rifle, this time void.
So to play the forsaken expansion I have to pay $50 Australian dollars then I need to get the previous dlc to be able to access which costs a further $50 dollars. So now I may as just well buy another game
The Welsh Dragon yeah me too I didn’t buy warmind
The Welsh Dragon eh i bet they’ll release a discount bundle or smth, makin it a bit cheaper than a new game, plus ya get shitloads of content!
Just wait for a legendary edition like what they did with rise of iron
Roxy Yarbrough yeah but I already own the base game so
If it gives you more hours than another new game then its worth it, but we can't really tell that until its too late and you'll be behind everyone.
I think I'll wait for destiny 2 the collection, that's when the "true release" of the game will be. Second time they released an unfinished game with two mediocre "expansions" and then a huge expansion that fixes our issues a year later. At this point I just want to see what is available to every player and what isn't.
And then a year after the collection they'll release a final $60 expansion and release D3 the year after that expansion and do this shit ALL over again
And then cry cause "nobody wants to teach the raid anymore... they are all snobs"😂😂😂
You know what would build my trust in Bungie a lot faster? Have this expansion be $20 and not have to buy CoO with it. You are exactly right...I don't have faith in Bungie right now, and I don't have to buy this game. I really think the content in this expansion looks great, but I won't be buying it until after it is released and I have a roadmap of their future plans. It may be petty of me, but if the price was cut in half I may have 2nd thoughts, and would be more willing to give it a chance.
Wilson Ward agreed
Well said!
It’s not petty at all. Be smart, wait for reviews and gameplay, then you can make your decision.
The game is in the state I wanted it to be in now, everything else is just icing on the cake.
You rock Datto. Love the thoughts as always. A+ content.
IM SO CONFLICTED!!!
Bloodsole Me too man. I REALLY want to play the new raid, but I don’t know if I’ll have the time or patience to trudge through everything else to get to it. The areas, weapons, armor, bosses, etc. all look even cooler than usual, but I feel like everything else seems like a traditional destiny expansion. I don’t know I’ll have to see if my friends still care because most of them hate Bungie at this point, and I can’t blame them. I think it’s safe to say Destiny 2 is the most disappointing, and honestly infuriating, game I have ever played. It’s really sad... I miss Destiny 1.
Still crazy to me that this expansion is gone now….would love to play it
Anyone else notice that the bow shot counted as a crit when it wasn’t a crit?
I really struggle with the price tag. Not because it's a lot of money in and of itself (inflation + the amount of content take care of that). But primarily because I still feel so god damn ripped off from buying the season pass on launch last time. The Year One experience was so awful from a content standpoint that it's hard to decouple the two. Particularly as a PC player, when we've been blessed by the sheer volume of quality content that is either underpriced (the Witcher 3) or free (Warframe). Nevermind that this comes from a studio that should know better.
As economically tough as it would have been - I think that Bungie would have been well served by either providing an additional free DLC to existing season pass holders, or cutting the price of the Forsaken season pass. I think that Bungie has missed an opportunity to rebuild a ton of goodwill and burnish their reputation as a studio by admitting that Year One was not up to standard and making an apology that goes beyond mere words.
lorenzo89er Cry me a river.
I actually agree with the price being cut in half. This isn't a comment he was giving for pity, this is an opinion I like. Instead of being toxic you actually had great input. By no means should this be free, but a discount for Deluxe edition holders would have been nice. Yes, I am going to buy the Deluxe edition of this because Bungie is stepping up and doing what we all asked. I respect Bungie for having the guts to come out swinging and if I'm dissapointed that's my fault for giving them another chance.
Use the sweet business as a lmg
Zina Marshall LMG MOUNTED
Rusted brainiac AND LOADED
GOING MOBILE
STAY WITH ME BRATUKA!
Finally a true awe-inspiring scenario. Haven't seen such of a wonderful area in Destiny since Dreadnought.
still not worth 160$ lmfao thats half the price of a fucking play station 4
I agree with everything said here. I only have base Destiny 2 the fact that I have to buy both curse and warmind just to participate in forsaken is ridiculous. I know I'm not the only one in the scenario. But dropping a total of $80 just to come back to the game is crazy
I don't mind paying 40$ for the dlc or another 30 bones for the pass but IMO the pass should of been free or 10-15$
I mean yea it should be discounted considering how much we put into CoO and WM but if they are giving us 3 expansions instead of 2 then I'm okay with it as long as they are just as large as CoO and WM
I’m just pissed I have to buy Warmind and Curse of Osiris
Alex Brgr that is a little ridiculous.... especially since this time around you could've bought WM without CoO.
Should make where you dont need previous expansions for this one
Jebron Boyd I didn’t have any interest in buying them
Alex Brgr u literally have to pay 200 dollars to get a good game which is bs.
Will my guardian find his voice again?
Colin Whitlock sadly no
His first words were
“Will it fly?”
at about 8:00 you stated that it will probably not be retroactive -- during the livestream, the director said they had people import their home characters and everything filled in. Not sure if it will be like kills and such, but I think the collections will be.
For me my life is different now so I don’t think I’ll ever be as consumed by the game as I used to be, but Bungie fixing things would be dope. Changing PvP drastically will be important and diving into lore by having the Awoken homeland as an explorable location will be dope
When they said random rolls were back, they should have shown 3 different better devil's.
I am a Titan lover but holllly poop hole that Hunter new void subclasses is badass
Nightstalker mains just finally getting an actual weapon instead of only getting a bow once every four minutes. There’s a reason I run Orpheus Rigs. Now I can do both 😏
Joshua Osborne I love it when mayhem is up though. Just running around saying nope, nope, nope, not you either sit down. 🤣
Joshua Osborne you monster
Jason Rivas hey, everyone's been wanting "dark guardians"... 😉
So we basically have to rebuy the game?
Dope
How the ammo will work: if you look when the weapons are being hovered over you will see an ammo type logo over it. This is the type of ammo that the weapon will take.
THRESH X NEONZ do u mean that shotgun ammo and sniper ammo will be separate?
Yeah it's interesting huh....I think this (and time to kill) are the two big missing ingredients. It's impossible to know if this is going to be good or not, without knowing how the weapon and ammo system will actually work. It's SOOO bungie to say "we got a system!" and then not explain how it works, and yes at this stage, even though it's early, they need to be explaining that, cos they got zero trust left with so many players these days.
Destiny year 1 pvp system when handguns reined and shotguns & sniper ammo were abundant was the best
2:24 if you look closely it shows either Petra Venj or one of those guards you see around the reef.
I'm fine with Forsaken being $40, because it's an expansion, ONLY if the other dlcs are free. It's just how I see these games. If you have microtransactions at all, your dlc should be free. I can pay for very large content drops like expansions, but also paying for dlcs on top of that is greedy, and we've seen plenty of other AAA games not do that and end up great. (Overwatch, Witcher 3).
While those two games are very different than destiny, their business isn't. It's the same. They both have to constantly work on their game and focus resources on balance and server maintenance. While Witcher may not have to worry as much on servers and balance, they have to fix multitudes of other issues that come with open world games of that size, like patches fixing glitches.
My philosophy on this topic is that either 1) It's a $60 game without microtransactions but has paid dlc, 2) It's a $60 game and does have microtransactions, but dlc is free, or 3) Game is free, but is filled with microtransactions
Also all of the microtransactions must be cosmetic only or your game will be dead
Stop whining lmao. DLCs take lots of time and money to make, there’s no way we’ll ever get them for free and that’s how it is
Le Epic the "dlc costs money" excuse is bullshit that's why they have eververse! All those microtransactions have more than paid for all the dlc's. I also implore anyone with doubts to restrain from pre-ordering and blindly throwing money at Bungie for something that could be absolutely garbage.
well warframe is about to get another MAJOR update for free, so play that I guess
Le Epic Halo 5?
Asher King I agree, it’s kind of an Elder Scrolls Online approach and I think that’s a great idea
Dont preorder. Wait for reviews.
ImpatientTurtle Oops too late.
My point Exactly, you would've thought people would've learnt their lesson by now.
ImpatientTurtle its your money, do what u want
This needs more likes. No preorders will make them nervous, they deserve to be, and may even make them reconsider their prices before release.
*Completely ignores and proceeds to preorder anyway because yes*
I don't mind the pricing however I think it would be great if people got a discount for having a certain amount of hours in the game. So the players who stuck with the game during the rough patches are rewarded and they still gain a large revenue from returning players surrounding the hype.
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my issue is that, Bungie has had 3 years of experience with the same audience that is there playing their game right now. The same people who are demanding more, the people who are complaining that the end game loot isn't varied enough, the people who have seen Destiny through from the start. Bungie decided to disregard all that and they delivered some half assed game that was supposed to be what the community wanted and was supposed to be worth our time and efforts.
They had 3 years to improve and they threw that all away. It's like you going to the SAT courses for three years straight, then right when you're sitting in that room, where you're taking the exam, you shit your pants and not even try your best to get what you rightfully deserve.
Now, granted that Bungie is trying to fix their shit, it feels like this had all been a fraud and that they never even thought about the disappointment and the regrets that the player base had, after paying 100+ on the game and devoting our time, which we could've used for something else, for something we did not ask for.
The thing for corporations like Bungie is, they never wanted to satisfy you. Maybe the developers, the actual people who are making the game did, but the company wanted nothing more than the money. Why do you think they delivered D2 to our doorsteps in that state in the first place? They promised us a "brand new" game that was supposed to take on the good that we have built up during the three years of D1, but what do you know? D2 base game was such a disappointment I don't even know why people were playing it after a month of release.
Raid lairs, really? We want real raids. Raids like VoG, CE, King's Fall, and SIVA. That's what we meant when we said new raids. Not reused concepts that are just "add-ons". Jesus Christ, it's like buying a burger without the patty, cheese, sauces, and all the essential ingredients to a good, worthwhile burger, then paying for all that shit later.
Sure, the new trailer looks enticing, but I honestly don't think I would be willing to pay another 70 bucks when I know damn well it would just feed into Bungie's trail of action. Furthermore, 3 more dlc's? really? I don't think it's bad, I'm just saying there should be another alternative to how this game should be published. 40 bucks is a lot of money to us students.
The only issue I have with your stance is you assume Bungie started developing D2 after TTK. They started developing D2 right before TDB. None of the features we fell in love with in TTK and RoI were in TDB. By the time TTK and RoI came out, they had to either decide to delay D2 or push out a product they were aware would flop. They took a presumed gamble and lost. It REALLY sucked. On top of that, they are not their own distributor. Which is also why they just received $100M from a Chinese company to be able to do that on their own. However, going forward, they should NEVER backslide like they did.
Can't get excited over features that should be in the initial release. I have no faith in this group. The community deserves better!
Zack Morse II I'm sure Bungie will appreciate a time machine
Zack Morse II we’re paying for features that we’ve paid for before.
Zack Morse II we're excited because we're finally getting this game up to the point it should've been from the start
Can you define what you mean by "features that we've paid for before"? Do you mean random rolls, or weapon slot changes? Because that's all free and not tied to the expansion, in the same way that everybody got the exotic reworks.
Jake Musser are the destiny 1 exotics coming into destiny 2 free? Yeah stfu
Very late comment but something I just noticed is that they claimed “more raid bosses than any other raid!” BUT, King’s Fall and Last wish BOTH had 4 bosses (KF had 5 if you count each deathsinger as its own boss). IN FACT, you could argue KF had 6 encounters which also ties Last Wish’e 6 encounters.
Not that I’m complaining, Last wish is fuckin fantastic.
100 percent agree @Datto it's on my radar for one of the next things to hope to happen is the breaking up of the skill tree blocks, the variants to the supers is nice just can't wait for deeper skill trees to be starting to be worked on.
"fool me once, shame on - shame on you. Fool me - you can't get fooled again." -GWB
"I know how hard it is to put food on your family"
The dreaming city… Wasn’t the dreadnought An explorable area/raid area at the same time? Did Bungie really say they haven’t done this before?
A Glimpse Inside the raid parts weren’t
A Glimpse Inside i think it was cause it's a social area not just a explorable areas
A Glimpse Inside Technically, people who played King's Fall were in a seperate instance, so it was not like VoG where you can see guardians opening the gates and assist them if needed
Mohamed aka The Hawkster if you remember in the beginning to the kings fall raid was the beginning entrance to the court of oryx. albeit , you teleported to a different area of the dreadnought however the two spaces were A part of the same vessel
A Glimpse Inside welp if you look at it this way then every single raid has been like this from deatiny 1 (except for d2 raids) i guess what they mean is you can literally see the boss room while exploring
I wasn't *expecting* it to be free but I was hoping they would include the September dlc in the season pass to revive the playerbase. All those people who wouldn't buy the season pass before are still unlikely to buy the season pass just to be able to spend another 40 on the big expansion.
Did anyone notice when the warlock ate his grenade and arcsouls active on the stormcaller subclass? Just me, ok.
The community did say we want this, but we didn’t say we wanted it for $60. We’re finally getting a full game, after paying over $160 just to play it.
EDIT: $40-$60 depending on where you live but my point stands
ShellShock the dlc is only 40 dollars... I get your second point that we have payed way to much to get a good game, but it would be 40$ and 140$
Edit: I’m pretty sure you don’t have to pay for the things they’re adding back
Go play fortnite then. Kbye
I live in Australia and had to pay $150 to get the original game and the season pass, on the ps market place they are charging Australia $60 for forsaken and $40 for the annual pass so within a year i would have had to pay $250 to play the game I wanted to play last year
Fletcher117 exactly
The dlc exspansion of the Forsaken is good and has great ideas. However for the price of £34.99 for just to pre-order dlc alone is rediculous. Then on top of that you will have to buy an extra £25, to the total of £59.99 to get the dlc plus the added annual pass. This price for the new exspansion to the destiny 2 world is too much and will not have the worth to the amount with the content they are adding. Yes it all looks great however most of what they are adding here should have been inthe game from launch, (e.g. lore content, in-game achievements, gear collections and the triumph books that they had in Destiny 1) so more then half of the new added content is destiny 1 content they thought and failed to add into Destiny 2 from the start. So for those who are from destiny 1 they are not only adding old content in a new format but they are also robbing money from you for content that should of been in the game from the start.
Things I'm most excited for: newncruciboe game modes, 6v6 crucible playlist (though I want to choose my desired game mode instead of having a random ass playlist) and power mattering in trials and iron banner. Please don't brake the crucible because that's what I play this game for. I lived for iron banner tournaments in D1 and it hasn't been the same in D2, make it great again.
They did the same thing with Destiny 1. You needed to own The Dark Below and House of Wolves to get The Taken King. So if you don't own the year 1 "expansions", then you rebuy the game for $60 for all the current content when year 2 launches. Trade in your D2 discs if they still have any exchange value.
No one should pre order this until we've seen reviews. Bungie has turned into one of the worst video game companies out there, the only way to send a message is to wait! Preorders numbers allow these guys to continue to pull this crap. This coming from someone who has preordered every destiny piece of content, but enough is enough. Make them earn sales
jason kanis I've pre-ordered every destiny/expansion as well and I'm glad I'm not the only one jumping ship
Welp, forsaken was pretty fucking godly so they did pretty well this time
Hunters get Solar Knives that u throw like shurikens, Void Knives and a defensive staff path (?)
Warlocks get Teleporting Nova-Alla hu Akbar, Arc Laser and Defensive Dawnblade path (?)
Titans get the Fist of Swan dive, Huge Solar Ban-hammer and idk for the sentinel
Stryder nova-allahu akbar lol😂
the void titan super is ur titan pulling a captain america educational video, sitting down and saying “so, you challenged me at a close distance. what were you thinking?” from fuckin spider-man homecoming
HUGE SOLAR BANHAMMER
THAT'S GREAT
Darla Ramirez 😁😁😁
Stryder for Void Titan I want a good bubble again.
I really thot the description in the Twin Rabbit exotic rocket launcher said “Datto’s best”
The fact that they only shined a light on Forsaken and are asking you to cough up money for the Annual Pass without releasing any information of it
Forsaken basically describes what bungie has done to their community
Not to incite a flame war (I really can't be bothered) but as you say "trying recently".....which obviously means they weren't really trying before. Hence "forsaken".
More importantly, why not just let Samuel here have his opinion? Just because you don't agree on him on his thoughts about Bungie, doesn't mean you have to attack his character.
If you've got a point to argue about what Bungie have done, sure, talk about that. But when you get stuck into attacking the man (instead of playing the ball)....well I'm just gonna point out that is what Trump does....*constantly*. Not really the company you wanna be keeping I guess?
faded lich Oh please. You Bungie apologizers have been doing that song and dance since Destiny 2 launched. Actually longer. Probably since Rise of Iron. "Bungie has been trying guys! You're just ungrateful! "
Oh they've been trying. Trying harder to reach into your wallet while they're balls deep in your ass. If this expansion works then it's a good step in the right direction, but there's still a very good chance that this will flop due to their very apparent greed. We will see.
Chance Walker shut up man he is right
Sebastian *right
Go back to preschool.
Chance Walker thanks cor the correction