The Wagners are a weird and abnormal family. What mother makes her son's wife leave their bedroom so she could rub and scratch his back? What husband would allow that? Why wouldn't George get a job and move out? What makes Angela think she should be raising Tabitha's baby?
Thank you for showing the full days of this trial, I'm from Ohio but can't attend the trial because of work, this has been wonderful to be able to watch the trial and see the Ohio court system in action.
The poverty in the area is just sad. The homes they live/lived in with floors falling through and roofs leaking. I know it’s hard to leave home but it would be best if this girl could get some money and get to the nearest largest city. She could get help and get on her feet
@Ciara Jackson I grew up in pike county. The only reason that I am a successful person and mother is because of my own mother. She made sure that I got a college education and moved away. My best friends loved my mom because she genuinely cared about everyone. I had a baby with a man similar to Jake and I got away from him because my mom got an attorney to got him to gladly sign his rights away. My freedom is solely owed to my mother. My rock to this very day. I would have been trapped in a very similar situation if my mom hadn’t out smarted them and believed in me.
@@finegremlin something similar happened in my case. I didn't grow up there but grew up in about area in South Eastern Kentucky. If you aren't a coal miner or drug dealer, you have no way to survive or provide. My mother helped me to get far away.
I agree. Nothing that proved any of the Wagner's did anything. I hope Jake and his mother testimony will not be blacked out so we cannot see or hear them. Since more and more trials are being televised Law and Order needs to have a reporter covering this case come on during breaks to let us know what's the testimony was about.
I know everyone believes they are guilty and I do too but honestly you have to be proven guilty and a court of law to be convicted and I haven’t seen any evidence linking George to the murder even though in my heart I believe he had something to do with it Either pulling the trigger or being an accomplice in it.
Yes no evidence against George except the brother that could shoot people 3 to 5 times in the head. If he is capable of that then lying would be a walk in the park with a cool breeze.
@@ashfordcombs8658 per Jakes plea agreement, as long as Jake testifies to the truth/ his previous statement, George won’t face the death penalty anyways
Would be helpful yo have a playlist named for this trial and links in the about of each video to the next video in order. It's hard finding your videos in sequence for different trials
What, the mother angela would go in to scratch her sons back every night. Making tabitha move over on the bed so angela could sit beside George. That's WEIRDDDDD behaviour.
I understand when witnesses don’t want to be videoed, but IMO we should either get audio or at least a narrator to explain what’s being said 🤷🏼♀️ Even is they explain during their breaks 🤔
I’m not sure if you’ve found Pretty Lies and Alibis yet but her YT channel gives a summary of the testimony from the witnesses that opted out. She has a friend in the courtroom that is kind enough to share notes
Tabitha, I'm sorry for the hurt the Wagner family caused you & greatly thank you for your courage to share the truth openly so the public that cares about justice for the Rhoden family can hear & see 1st hand. You are certainly braver & a more upstanding human than, disappointingly, apparently Jake & his mother are planning to be!! It's a crime unto itself that this court is going to allow them to hide from the world when they testify! NEVER should be the case...especially this horrendous case that's waited nearly 7 yrs to be heard!
It's not the technicians, the witnesses have the option to be on camera or not and also the option to have audio or not. When they opt out, you won't see or hear them. Just thought I would let you know🙂
For those who are just joining the trial this court has allowed witnesses to elect out of being videoed/sound recorded. So when there is video and no sound that is why. Some have elected to allow sound but no video etc. It's been a hard one to follow online because most have opted out of being shown/sound recorded.
I heard that Jake Wagner said no to sound and video if so that’s BS… he should not have a choice… I want to hear and him and his mom… I wish I knew when they are testifying and I would be there in person
@@NevaehsThriftyNiftyTreasures I agree. Jake & Angela should not have been given the choice. The others I can understand-I don’t like it but I understand why they wouldn’t want to be on video/audio
Is no wonder this trial is taking so long, not only did 8 poor people lost their lives, by the hands of a crazed family of mountain goats, but on top of it these people, specially the judge, are in a working pace of a turtle with a broken leg, the judge is just about delivering warnings to this poor jury and the public and taking 2 hour lunches along with a break after every witness; And why video broadcast a trial when 70% of the time is just hours of people seating around in a courtroom mostly doing nothing; this is mainly a video recording of how courts waste public-money, it would be cheaper to hire, produce and show an editors version than this!
Well, this young girl,. Tabitha got away with her life as she did not enforce the custodianship of her son but the poor Rhodens were not that lucky. It sounds as if Angela Wagner displays a serious defective personality disorder. Well, in jail and now prison, she might even lose her life if she persists in this tyrannical attitude albeit the nature of her crimes
Wow tabithas mother wasn't allowed to see her baby until he was a s 18 months. I hopec tabith knows that thsts abusive and not normal behaviour she lived with in George's mothers house.
No he is not. He hardly agrees with the defence when they object. That's way twice today after the defence objected he Saud well lets hear the answer, then tells the jury to discard the testimony.
Most witnesses seem pointless, nearly all questions from the prosecutor are totally pointless!! On the stand for way too long, an hour to get to the point! Long pauses between each question. The jury must be bored out of their minds.
So, does the prosecution have ANY evidence besides the statements from Jake and Angela that George was involved in the killings? The defense is doing a pretty good job showing that Jake would blame George for a lot of bad deeds that Jake was actually guilty of doing, and that Angela preferred Jake over George. If the prosecution has nothing else on George other than Jake’s and Angela’s statements, then I don’t see how the jury can convict him. If that’s the case, then shoot, they’ve ALL dodged the Death Penalty due to Jake and Angela’s plea deal, and the Prosecution got screwed. I’d call that pretty slick and smooth, myself.
This trial isn't even half way through yet. There is a lot more to come. Right now, they are just laying the groundwork. The state has wire taps!!!! They bugged the Wagner's phones and vehicles and supposedly have them all on tape discussing the murders. If they weren't convinced of George's guilt, he wouldn't be on trial.
Before they can even begin to show the results of any lab testing or play the wire tap evidence, they have to give background info and submit the evidence onto the record. They haven't even begun to present the proof yet. This is far from over.
Why even show this trial with all the issues with who wants audio no video . students of the law study these trials with all the unnecessary interruptions effects the flow of the trial.I will assigning .my student s to another trial
Where are these people from? Between the mullets, deer hunting and inbred relationships I have no idea. Not one has worn something court suitable. T shirts and shorts.
The judge knows he is allowing testimony that should not be allowed. That is why he gives reasons for allowing testimony. So much hearsay is being allowed. Seems like an unfair trial to me. The testimony is heard then objection and then testimony is discussed because the judge wants to know what is being said which then allows reinforcement of the testimony.
@@shego74 that’s outrageous. The media should have fought much harder against this judge giving witnesses “the option” to not even be AUDIO recorded?!? Where’s the judges concern over the public’s right to know?!? I despise judges that do this. Just like the judge in the Daybell case not allowing video streaming. That’s just wrong.
Can someone tell the camera man that while someone is testifying there are probably very few people who are interested in observing the back of someone else’s head.
“Sammy” was interviewed on The Piketon Massacre podcast if you’ve listened to it. She said a lot of the same things in the podcast interview that she testified to here today.
Correct, there is no DNA tying them to the murders, however, they do have a lot of evidence. I don’t believe that Jake and Angela would have plead guilty and told the prosecution everything had they not believed there was enough evidence to convict them.
Cases were solved and won before DNA evidence. Lack of DNA in this case isn't abnormal. There's no real reason for DNA of murderers to be @ scenes since the murders were done like they were. There's a ton of other evidence that is the result of detective work and confesses.
Jake led the police to the guns (they were in grandmothers' Frederika's pond), parts of silencers, a bullet casing at their home that matched one at the murder scene. They have matched the boot prints to Wal-Mart boots that Angela bought at Wal-Mart. Jake and Angela confessed to the murders based on the evidence the prosecutors have. They confessed so none of them would get the death penalty. DNA is not necessary to convict someone if they have enough other evidence.
Unfortunately cops are allowed to lie during interrogation. Who knows what said to them.That's why we have so many innocence people in jail. They should have kept their mouths shut.
Samantha Staley seems like a genuine sweetheart. What a breath of fresh air. I wish her all the very best, with contentment and fulfillment.
The Wagners are a weird and abnormal family. What mother makes her son's wife leave their bedroom so she could rub and scratch his back? What husband would allow that? Why wouldn't George get a job and move out? What makes Angela think she should be raising Tabitha's baby?
Angela sounds like a narcissistic psychopath. That would explain all of her behavior.
She obviously controlled him too
@@judiashley5818 I’m sorry but to me that is another level of crazy 😜
I value my privacy and freedom so this family sounds like a nightmare.
WTF!
Audio starts around 4:33:56
Thank you for showing the full days of this trial, I'm from Ohio but can't attend the trial because of work, this has been wonderful to be able to watch the trial and see the Ohio court system in action.
The poverty in the area is just sad. The homes they live/lived in with floors falling through and roofs leaking.
I know it’s hard to leave home but it would be best if this girl could get some money and get to the nearest largest city. She could get help and get on her feet
@Ciara Jackson I grew up in pike county. The only reason that I am a successful person and mother is because of my own mother. She made sure that I got a college education and moved away. My best friends loved my mom because she genuinely cared about everyone. I had a baby with a man similar to Jake and I got away from him because my mom got an attorney to got him to gladly sign his rights away. My freedom is solely owed to my mother. My rock to this very day. I would have been trapped in a very similar situation if my mom hadn’t out smarted them and believed in me.
@@finegremlin something similar happened in my case. I didn't grow up there but grew up in about area in South Eastern Kentucky. If you aren't a coal miner or drug dealer, you have no way to survive or provide. My mother helped me to get far away.
I love this girl’s testimony, she seems so sweet!
I agree. Nothing that proved any of the Wagner's did anything. I hope Jake and his mother testimony will not be blacked out so we cannot see or hear them. Since more and more trials are being televised Law and Order needs to have a reporter covering this case come on during breaks to let us know what's the testimony was about.
Not ust sweet, but astute!
@@envirogirl1 what does that mean?
She hijacked tabithas baby too, angela George's mother, demanding the baby sleeps with her. Instead of the baby with its mother. That's nuts.
I know everyone believes they are guilty and I do too but honestly you have to be proven guilty and a court of law to be convicted and I haven’t seen any evidence linking George to the murder even though in my heart I believe he had something to do with it Either pulling the trigger or being an accomplice in it.
Idk if there is any actual evidence tying him to it but I do think he will be convicted based on Jake and Angela’s testimony
@@ciarajackson9862 maybe but jake said he didn’t kill anyone so death sentence won’t sick I think
Not sure if he had anything to do with it, for I am one that must have evidence to find guilt. Thus far I've seen none. But there is still time.
Yes no evidence against George except the brother that could shoot people 3 to 5 times in the head. If he is capable of that then lying would be a walk in the park with a cool breeze.
@@ashfordcombs8658 per Jakes plea agreement, as long as Jake testifies to the truth/ his previous statement, George won’t face the death penalty anyways
I guess George was showing his lawyers he could count to 10 😂
Would be helpful yo have a playlist named for this trial and links in the about of each video to the next video in order. It's hard finding your videos in sequence for different trials
I so agree with that because I'm just jumping around all over the place trying to keep up
Boy howdy! 👍
I spend a lot of time searching. The video will finish and I can never find part 2 part 3, etc, then sometimes I will accidentally run into it.
What, the mother angela would go in to scratch her sons back every night. Making tabitha move over on the bed so angela could sit beside George. That's WEIRDDDDD behaviour.
WTF why would George allow this?
What kind of sick kink is that?
I understand when witnesses don’t want to be videoed, but IMO we should either get audio or at least a narrator to explain what’s being said 🤷🏼♀️ Even is they explain during their breaks 🤔
I agree, I thought it was only victims of defendants that could opt out of being recorded.
I’m not sure if you’ve found Pretty Lies and Alibis yet but her YT channel gives a summary of the testimony from the witnesses that opted out. She has a friend in the courtroom that is kind enough to share notes
@@DamnitDana hi there, yes it’s a great channel, Gigi saves many hours of watching in her condensed version
Yikes! This poor girl! God bless her!
I know Tabitha hated to testify but I’m glad we get to see her and hear what she has to say
She’s obviously very private, however really think she was very brave to talk in front of the world, didn’t see her look at George!
I feel bad for her. If George's mother wasn't so weird maybe they could have had a life together away from his family
Tabitha, I'm sorry for the hurt the Wagner family caused you & greatly thank you for your courage to share the truth openly so the public that cares about justice for the Rhoden family can hear & see 1st hand. You are certainly braver & a more upstanding human than, disappointingly, apparently Jake & his mother are planning to be!! It's a crime unto itself that this court is going to allow them to hide from the world when they testify! NEVER should be the case...especially this horrendous case that's waited nearly 7 yrs to be heard!
My heart went out to Tabitha. I felt so sorry for her . Her past shouldn't of had to come out like that. Praying for that girl
I love Tabitha too, seems so sweet!
TY for 4.5 hours of silent nothingness until finely providing content!
Lazy editing
So Sam's dad worked for Frederica his whole life or a lot of it..yet lived in a trailer with his family where floors were ready to fall thru? What!
Sound on this channel is always too LOW.👎☹️
Audio is amazing , how do they manage to be so incompetent 😢
I agree. Audio/video technicians have had two weeks to get it together. I would fire the techs today
It's not the technicians, the witnesses have the option to be on camera or not and also the option to have audio or not. When they opt out, you won't see or hear them. Just thought I would let you know🙂
@@lesliefortie8347 I can't hear the witnesses that have opted to be shown
@@kimberly1567 because this judge is allowing them to be totally hidden from the public
Reminds me of the Hatfields and McCoys 😁
So did we not hear anything all day until the girl testified? Ive been working all day, and now replaying
Yes. The first 2 witnesses of the day opted out. The first recorded witness was the woman who was friends with Jake and George.
Good God. This trial is twice as long as it needs to be. Can this lady just get to the questions!
Well
Sweet young lady is honest ! Good on her !
This witness is a adorable sweet lady, she’s so honest in a innocent cute way, IMO she would be a lovely Mum
She's absolutely precious. I wish her all the very best.
yeah I agree it's rare to see an innocent sweet adult who is genuine.
Why don't these Lawyers know the questions they are going to ask the witnesses? They seem to be asking in slow motion.
For those who are just joining the trial this court has allowed witnesses to elect out of being videoed/sound recorded. So when there is video and no sound that is why. Some have elected to allow sound but no video etc. It's been a hard one to follow online because most have opted out of being shown/sound recorded.
Thank you!
Thank you!!
Thank you for explaining
I heard that Jake Wagner said no to sound and video if so that’s BS… he should not have a choice… I want to hear and him and his mom… I wish I knew when they are testifying and I would be there in person
@@NevaehsThriftyNiftyTreasures I agree. Jake & Angela should not have been given the choice. The others I can understand-I don’t like it but I understand why they wouldn’t want to be on video/audio
Is no wonder this trial is taking so long, not only did 8 poor people lost their lives, by the hands of a crazed family of mountain goats, but on top of it these people, specially the judge, are in a working pace of a turtle with a broken leg, the judge is just about delivering warnings to this poor jury and the public and taking 2 hour lunches along with a break after every witness; And why video broadcast a trial when 70% of the time is just hours of people seating around in a courtroom mostly doing nothing; this is mainly a video recording of how courts waste public-money, it would be cheaper to hire, produce and show an editors version than this!
😂😂
Seems like they could have picked a judge under 80.
I think he shows his guilt by never looking at anyone testifying. I think it shows his shame.
❤️🙏🏽🕊I am so sorry for the loss of your loved ones. May God keep you and comfort you. 😔
It's ASTONISHING This Prosecutor Knew All of George's ex-wife's testimony About Angela...But Yet Gave Angela A Plea Deal.
Well, this young girl,. Tabitha got away with her life as she did not enforce the custodianship of her son but the poor Rhodens were not that lucky. It sounds as if Angela Wagner displays a serious defective personality disorder. Well, in jail and now prison, she might even lose her life if she persists in this tyrannical attitude albeit the nature of her crimes
Wonder how Angela is doing in prison where she can't control others 🤣😅🤣😅😅. She get beat down.
Wow tabithas mother wasn't allowed to see her baby until he was a s 18 months.
I hopec tabith knows that thsts abusive and not normal behaviour she lived with in George's mothers house.
poor girl is shaking like a leaf the whole time.
Such a sweet humble lady.
audio starts @ approx 4:30:??
The prosecutor is so painfully slow to get to a point meandering through hours of pointless detail… GET TO THE BLOODY POINT !
The trauma is so palpable
Sam is for sure pro George....shining him up and "George always got the blame" x100
Or maybe she is just telling the truth.
But, the prosecution gained a huge win after that, when she said that Jake is brutally honest, almost too honest.
Really 4 5hrs before we hear any testimony. WTH is this the kangaroo court
This trial would’ve been a week shorter without the prosecution pauses between questions.🙄 Poor jury! Hard to follow.
I thought opting out of being recorded was just for victims.
Is it the end of the day for the trial
7:11:55 Prosecutor should've asked confirming question," Did you mother and family want to come see you and your baby?"
No audio, and no George
Witnesses are allowed to choose to e on camera & audio, it’s difficult to follow as quite a few have chosen not to be recorded.
Witnesses are allowed to choose to e on camera & audio, it’s difficult to follow as quite a few have chosen not to be recorded.
George said repeatedly...
" let me tell ya something "...
Trying to focus on the drug trade
You know. If we took "you know" and "mthr fckrs" out of his vocabulary, he would have none.
This judge is the best the way he is running the case this evel men has no chance of appeal
No he is not. He hardly agrees with the defence when they object. That's way twice today after the defence objected he Saud well lets hear the answer, then tells the jury to discard the testimony.
@@debbysalmon2498 you sound like u want this evel men to walk?? Do u??
You go ladies! Good job Tabitha!
Why no sound for most of it ?
That woman manipulated, controlled, and brainwashed her family, including her husband.
Most witnesses seem pointless, nearly all questions from the prosecutor are totally pointless!! On the stand for way too long, an hour to get to the point! Long pauses between each question. The jury must be bored out of their minds.
So, does the prosecution have ANY evidence besides the statements from Jake and Angela that George was involved in the killings? The defense is doing a pretty good job showing that Jake would blame George for a lot of bad deeds that Jake was actually guilty of doing, and that Angela preferred Jake over George.
If the prosecution has nothing else on George other than Jake’s and Angela’s statements, then I don’t see how the jury can convict him. If that’s the case, then shoot, they’ve ALL dodged the Death Penalty due to Jake and Angela’s plea deal, and the Prosecution got screwed. I’d call that pretty slick and smooth, myself.
Oh they have George it’s called Complicity!That mean he didn’t have to actually do anything but he was in on the planning.Thats Guilty
I believe they have footprint(s) of those Walmart shoes in his size at one of the scenes that his mother bought 3 pairs in all their sizes.
This trial isn't even half way through yet. There is a lot more to come. Right now, they are just laying the groundwork. The state has wire taps!!!! They bugged the Wagner's phones and vehicles and supposedly have them all on tape discussing the murders. If they weren't convinced of George's guilt, he wouldn't be on trial.
Before they can even begin to show the results of any lab testing or play the wire tap evidence, they have to give background info and submit the evidence onto the record. They haven't even begun to present the proof yet. This is far from over.
That would be a slick move 😆
Why even show this trial with all the issues with who wants audio no video . students of the law study these trials with all the unnecessary interruptions effects the flow of the trial.I will assigning .my student s to another trial
Jake probably asked about the diaper bag because they had hidden a gps tracker in it.
I cant stand this prosecution questions. So slow and some questions so useless
Her ums and eands are annoying, but I'm sure her questions aren't useless.
Angela threw a baby a party for their one month milestone? Ummm what?
Doesn't matter if George pulled the trigger or not. He is guilty by association.
Why can’t I hear on this video
Where are these people from? Between the mullets, deer hunting and inbred relationships I have no idea. Not one has worn something court suitable. T shirts and shorts.
D@RW
The judge knows he is allowing testimony that should not be allowed. That is why he gives reasons for allowing testimony. So much hearsay is being allowed. Seems like an unfair trial to me. The testimony is heard then objection and then testimony is discussed because the judge wants to know what is being said which then allows reinforcement of the testimony.
Like what is hearsay?
You know there are “exceptions to the hearsay rule”…right?
Why no audio? most of the day just sitting
Witnesses are allowed to choose to e on camera & audio, it’s difficult to follow as quite a few have chosen not to be recorded.
Was this a cult or a clan or something?
WHAT??? I CAN'T HEAR YOU!!!!
She has enough hair for three people!
She’s lucky!
The defense is leading this witness!!
Leading witnesses is allowed during cross.
What's happening?
Ok what the heck was the first 4 1/2 hrs of this video?
Nothing
@@marshapieroni6677 😂😂
Shakey. Spookey. Hunter? Really? Nasty
Can anyone tell me jake has testified yet or when he will testify
He hadn’t yet. He will testify, but has opted out of being recorded. The mom too.
@@shego74 oh brother. So we won't be able to even hera his testimony then?
Thanks fir answering
So there’s no point in watching a blank screen and no sound.
@@shego74 that’s outrageous. The media should have fought much harder against this judge giving witnesses “the option” to not even be AUDIO recorded?!? Where’s the judges concern over the public’s right to know?!?
I despise judges that do this. Just like the judge in the Daybell case not allowing video streaming. That’s just wrong.
Is there no sound?
Can someone tell the camera man that while someone is testifying there are probably very few people who are interested in observing the back of someone else’s head.
Why are
?????
Why is there no sound?? 😅
Like 4 hours of nothing. Nice.
Where's the sound
I'm confused.jake was the father of what Baby? I thought George was Sophia father
Jake is the father of Sophia. George had Bovine with Tabitha
Why she grinning its weird
No sound, the gaffes in this trial just keep on coming.
Did this girl already testify? Her answers sound familiar.
“Sammy” was interviewed on The Piketon Massacre podcast if you’ve listened to it. She said a lot of the same things in the podcast interview that she testified to here today.
No sound!!!!!
I can't hear anything
This site manages to be worse than useless by including 4.5 hours of dead silence.
When it finally came on it was so low, very difficult to hear.
Sound
Is she a CO? Lol
There is no dna tied to any of the Wagners. I have to say I have my doubts. This whole trial is really a dice roll.
I would agree if mom & Jake wasn’t going to testify. That will seal it for him
Correct, there is no DNA tying them to the murders, however, they do have a lot of evidence. I don’t believe that Jake and Angela would have plead guilty and told the prosecution everything had they not believed there was enough evidence to convict them.
Cases were solved and won before DNA evidence. Lack of DNA in this case isn't abnormal. There's no real reason for DNA of murderers to be @ scenes since the murders were done like they were. There's a ton of other evidence that is the result of detective work and confesses.
Jake led the police to the guns (they were in grandmothers' Frederika's pond), parts of silencers, a bullet casing at their home that matched one at the murder scene. They have matched the boot prints to Wal-Mart boots that Angela bought at Wal-Mart. Jake and Angela confessed to the murders based on the evidence the prosecutors have. They confessed so none of them would get the death penalty. DNA is not necessary to convict someone if they have enough other evidence.
Unfortunately cops are allowed to lie during interrogation. Who knows what said to them.That's why we have so many innocence people in jail. They should have kept their mouths shut.