It's fine to find your streamers, such as Pokimane, attractive and pretty and shit like that, but I'll never understand the mental state of those who constantly donate 1000s or even 100s of dollars to these people, and see nothing wrong with it
They just want to be recognized by their idols they hide behind their desks and lose their life savings to a streamer that has no idea who they are it’s the mentality of a sigma male
Then you probably got lucky and found someone you like/love, But let me tell you being alone while other people joke about it and shit, that seeping loneliness keeps closing in day by day and the weight of that fucking loneliness is fucking devastating. So other people find a mantra/habit/coping mechanism no matter how fuck up it is just to ignore/forget that loneliness even just for a couple of hours a day. I got extremely lucky too because 25+ years ago I was one of those now I'm married with 3 kids and living my life to the fullest, it ain't perfect and there's up and downs but god I love my family.
what if i say that i been once a poki watcher for a short time aswell and after realising how weird her chat is and callin them out on that my message or my account i litterly cant remember cuz well its so long ago got deleated/banned. imo that shows atleast at that point of time what the intentions behind such a streamer/ maybe only her mods are. and ima saying it rn its fkn money and she they are fine with ppl simpin on that level. its actually sad what ppl do for money sorry to say. proof me wrong or leave a comment and change my opinion. interesting topic
@@wilddude4205 OH I don't disagree with you ONE BIT! I tell my oldest kids all the time people do the stupidest things OVER MONEY! Don't know why, but they just do.
Man, I'll never understand watching long hours of stream. I can barely watch 10 mins of a stream without getting bored. I like twitch highlights of some streamers but I can't for the life of me watch a real stream. The downtimes are insane, the chat is dumb. Chat in streams are just spams, mindless spam.
What I do not understand is how people can blame streamers for not telling fans not to donate so they dont go broke. The ones who are donating should be responsible for their own money
Because they accept it. Jerma would give it back and tell them to pay their bills. Lol there's a difference between a good person and a selfish person.
@@JundaMane that's what jdillion was trying to explain Granted using an extremely inappropriate method and quite disgusting and overall idiotic way of doing it But within his flawed way I think he was genuinely trying to keep 100 with his male audience Wake up ain't no chance for y'all stop wasting your money Which twitch obviously didn't like
Exactly, most of them should already know how to handle their money, aren't they adults? Unless you're telling me that the only people donating are dumb kids and Pokimane knows that, I don't see why they need the streamer to say something on their poor handling of money.
@@toidIllorTAmI I'm sorry but i can't blame the girl here, she's doing what every normal persona would do "accept money" i'll never get the incel mentality of threatikg female streamer, V tubers like "the succubus that sucks money and threat men like garbage" You could argue? That they manipulate people by dressing on a revealing way but that doesn't work because the people that donate to her are GROWN MEN, they are not children, Hell if you care so much about people getting "scammed" why not declare war on major companies like Hasbro, EA or literally every snack and drink brand ever?
the biggest failure of streamers and the streaming industry at large is: not learning from the lessons that literally every other entertainment industry has been learning for the last 100+ years sure, streaming is a new area with sort of new dynamics, but nothing that happens within the twitch "community" is new everything from the goofy parasocial nature of it, to the pseudo-celebrity aspects, to the endless fake friendships/business relationships, all happen in every industry, big to small fact is, twitch just has/had no adult role models to teach and bring up the younger 'talent'; all you have are kids who took one philosophy class and/or kids who will do anything for more money
I’ve never used twitch and seeing videos like this always makes me feel better about not using the platform. Being a twitch user looks exhausting and overstimulating
Although posting videos on Monday just works the best for my schedule, it does make me happy to give y'all something to enjoy on what most consider the "worst day of the week"
I don’t think Gundam was “bullying” Pokimane’s followers, but just using his brand of comedy to bring to light how sad & creepy many of her followers are.
A 21 year old girl sitting in her room recording an apology video has to be the funniest shit about the times we live in… nothing she does is THAT serious.
this vid is one of Patrick CCs few Ls. He said that the only reason why she was being attacked was because she was the "queen of twitch?" Idiotic, she wouldnt be being attacked in the first place if she had never used the n word like that. Its not unprompted. A lot of white knighting going on in this vid.
Even as a kid when I was in to MLG I would get bored after two hours watching a stream that wasn't apart of a major championship. People watch other people stream EVERYDAY is weird no cap. Folks need to touch grass
It is just a high school drama, it's pretty funny. Jideon being a dick, Ninja trying to help out a guy getting a relatively severe punishment, Poki taking it as an affront to her kingdom punishable by permaban, Ninja thinking just telling the truth to Poki would end everything but then threatening her for some reason, Poki then being petty enough to blow the drama wide open by sharing their private DMs, Ninjas wife coming in and threatening Poki even more... Such a bizarre clash of egos, I can say with 100% certainty that everyone involved was acting insane, and not one of them chose the smart move
@@Caffeine_Addict_2020 I don't watch Poki's shit, but Jideon sexually harassed her on livestream to a massive audience, and said some pretty explicit shit. He earned that perma ban. Twitch is still shitty for pandering to these audiences though.
@@jcdentoid Jideon was an idiot for it, yea. Permaban is way too severe for what comes out to being some bullying, that's his livelihood completely erased. If you permabanned everyone who bullied, twitch would be a ghost town. FFS much of twitch, and video game culture as a whole, runs on bullying
Love the range of content you've put out lately ❤ Really crazy to see how far your channel has come. From aux battles and cool music stuff, to this unexpected, but nonetheless awesome piece. Proud of you dawg
I am very surprise about the fact you didn't talk about the drama that happened between her and blowbax, where she claimed him reading tweets was somehow copyright infringement and decided to file false copyright strixes on his channel, which happened way before itsagundams drama with her and where most of the starting seeds of scrutiny came from and why it was such a big explosion of hate against her when she went after itsagundams sponsors, which she never publicly appologized for trying to ruin blowbax's career with false copyright strikes.
I mean, this whole video is hugely simping and pretending an person who's entire personally is seeking attention online is victim when she gets that attention
Pretty Privilege doesn't mean the person has no talent or skill. It just means, the notoriety one receives is far above the skill or talent one has. There are hundreds of other women like Pokemne who have similar talent, but won't be as popular and successful as her because they're not as attractive/pretty. So, no. She isn't "accused" of pretty privilege. She has it. It's not a sin, it's just a fact.
It’s a phenomenon that exists. Kinda like tall, good looking men end up being more successful on average. Dunno enough about any of these women to say whether it’s the case for them
Seeing all of these issues, especially the most recent regarding that employee using her fan base, I can’t imagine the constant stress that comes with this.
@@Chunkyjalapeno are you okay? do you need some kind of psychologist because this just exhibits your lack of empathy which could be caused by other factors. You and me have personal issues that affect us like normal people do and we’re allowed to feel negative emotions even if there’s bigger global issues at hand. if you don’t have personal issues and don’t let them affect you then A. You’re stupidly young with no life experience, go on youtube kids. B. There’s something very wrong with you and I would deeply consider getting a therapist or psychologist and deal with your issues.
this happens all the time and is a nothing burger - you know how many people were in fake relationships in school and never met each other ? the value exchange is the same everyone wanted to skip the system so they got caught up in a fake one.
Sadly though this needs to be updated. The last 6 months she has really shown her colors. Putting men down, disgracing "broke boys", talking shit about reaction videos... which is something she does all the time, etc.
I think there's an inherent problem with a lot of websites/platforms. Degrading societies. People need to go out more, have a healthy social life and focus on themselves, instead of being stuck on screens for hours, giving so much time, attention, money and power in the hands of a few people (so-called "influencers"), who don't give a damn about them. Yes, you could argue they're providing entertainment, but honestly watching all of this is just a new low of how sad and tragic our society has become.
Agreed, I remember my reading intervention teacher once said “Maybe the Greek gods were just celebrities that people worshipped so much they believed they were gods”, I’m sure she didn’t mean it to sound such a way but it does really show how (for lack of a better term) dystopian the word “influencer” is, as if it is a good and normal thing to have so many people of the few “influence the masses” nonchalantly, and we are just supposed to “go with the flow” and such or be left behind, unfortunate indeed, and streamers are *not* helping
I don't like Pokimane, but she's right, she shouldn't have to endure such harassment. Also, just because something is common, doesn't mean it's normal or that it should be allowed to continue to be a common occurrence.
She shouldn't but it comes with the territory. If your brand is based on sexualizing yourself, don't be surprised when you're sexualized. She sold her soul for views and cash, and got very rich doing so. This is just the consequence of this "trade". This is no different than being a prostitute and then wondering why your clients don't respect you. The honest truth is, if she was a male, she would be lost in the wind with zero viewership. At least streamers like Ninja have to rely on competence and skill when playing games to be famous. People watch him for example, for his skill and plays. That is how he is valued, while Pokimane is valued for her looks. Had she actually had any skill, she may attract a different fanbase. But unfortunately if looks is all you can provide, you will only attract a certain group of individuals to your content.
Misogyny is the most acceptable and commonly practiced form of bigotry in the world. I can’t tell you how many examples I have of men openly demonizing homophobia or racism while within the same half hour say very sexist things and laugh about it. I mean, look at the way words used to insult women are thrown around so easily, while similar words used to hate on other groups are banned entirely. I’ve been really surprised and disappointed in my life to see just how much living and working as a female woman in world has affected me and the outcome of my career, my efforts, relationships, etc. I never would’ve expected that when I graduated high school. I also believed it was a thing of the past. It sickens me to imagine how much worse it is in places like Saudi Arabia. Why is it that so many men hate the very people they desire most? What pathetic insecurity must they be filled with? But “might is right.” Even if it isn’t, it wins. How very sad. I appreciate patient, loving, respectful men more and more all the time.
Even if these streamers hardly qualify as celebrities, the way the new media are treating them is quite reminiscent. Now a lot of people feel kind of sorry about Britney, the same who harassed her until he reached her actual state.
It isn't crazy at all. It's incredibly mid. I want to say, even low-intensity with zero impact. You guys wouldn't know crazy if it slapped you in the face. Here, I will give you a hint: Read the ingredient list of the stuff you buy in grocery stores and look up what all those chemicals do. Or look up what the World Economic Forum has cooked up for summer vacations. Now those are CRAZY things. This Influencer drama is just incredibly menial.
I've exploited people online before. But that was like 24 years ago when I intentionally hung out in chatrooms pretending to be a 12 year old girl to convince creeps to buy me prepaid cellphone cards.
@@kingzeno1708 but I wanted to. My mom was all like "there's creeps all over the internet cuz the news said so" and 14 year old me was like "but moooom I know betterthan to talk to weirdos" and secretly I was like "12/f/cali I got a cell phone with no minutes and my parents keep the house phone in their room at night cuz I got caught talking to guyz lol" Creeps would send me the code from a cell phone prepaid card and their number expecting a young girl to call, and I'd just log off and never use that AOL or Yahoo account again. What were they gonna do, say they were scammed by someone claiming to be 12? Good times.
@@kloroformd :/ that’s sad you were 14 at the time, they would of sent it to you if you were 12 or 14 because that’s how creeps operate. I’m happy your doing better now and thank you for sharing❤️
@jumanauwu its important how u make money imo, if u realise ur making money with simps most of them prob under age and u do litterly nothing against it or mods even ban ppl or messages who go against these comments its even worse imo. ppl who make money with shady trades etc are the same for me tbh
@@kauswekazilimani3736 Ok so you don't do anything to the people that give you the money or donate to you on stream. But when somebody calls you out on that, you can call out the person that called you about not telling your viewers to not donate hefty amounts? Pokimane is a hypocrite. If she didn't call people out for calling her out for not telling her viewers to stop donating, this drama would have never happened. I don't think Pokimane isn't one of those who has their cleavage staring straight at the camera. I mean those Twitch thots are on a whole nother level. But if Pokimane had a problem with Pretty privilege she needs to address it without trying to flag people calling her out. Her flagging videos shows she's taking advantage of pretty privilege. So she's a hypocrite in my opinion.
YES ! I'm a creative type dreaming of making it but not dreaming about being famous AT ALL and this video is an exemple of why I don't need it in my life to the point where I still don't know if I want to show my face or if I should hide in a creative way. I have second hand anxiety from all the public/online figures going though things this bad. Thanx for the video.
The creative industry will be sabotaged by AI generated content. It's already happening to Hollywood and if those multi-million dollar top talent cannot stop Big Corporate, neither can you. Look for future work perspectives in venues that are hard to replace with robotics as well as software. You are most welcome.
I swear that little "winding down sound" that you have edited in when you're talking about a complicated situation that just got worse always gives me a sinking feeling. Seriously great video!
Bro your Videos are the best & most interesting too. The way you break them down & keep us interested the whole time is Unbelievable. Appreciate you & your work 💯. Stay blessed bro 👍🏽👊🏽✌🏽🫡
super proud of you bro. found your channel when i was just starting out high school, it was the best rapper by state video if im not mistaken. your video stating your goals for 2022 couldn't have been more perfect and as someone who's been here for a lot of the ride we're all proud of you pat🖤
Yeah, facts... But you shouldnt talk about someone like that, definitely not someone you dont know. Imagine someone was talking about your girlfriend like that, would you be okay with that?
Right and I hate how this guy basically dumps for her too and tries to paint it as if streamer girls are oppressed and are objectified, yet when you click on their streams, it’s usually minimal clothing and the game in a little corner. Like we know the gameplay wasn’t part of your mystique lol
Great video, it's a great showcase of the horrible situation she's going through. I will still dislike her but thing is, many people like her usually become this unlikable because they have to go through horrible events such as the ones presented here. It's true for many people I used to know, and I had always suspected that in Poki, it was just never as clear as this video has shown.
what if i say that i been once a poki watcher for a short time aswell and after realising how weird her chat is and callin them out on that my message or my account i litterly cant remember cuz well its so long ago got deleated/banned. imo that shows atleast at that point of time what the intentions behind such a streamer/ maybe only her mods are. and ima saying it rn its fkn money and she they are fine with ppl simpin on that level. its actually sad what ppl do for money sorry to say. proof me wrong or leave a comment and change my opinion. interesting topic
@@wilddude4205 why are you saying your account got banned/deleted instead of saying she banned you from her chat or kept timing you out? Don't say "u do u". You are the one not using punctuation and writing poorly. It's not my fault I didn't get what you said.
@@EgoistTheMoon bro did u even read what i say its so long ago i cant remember and it doesnt matter w/e ur the fanboy here right xD geezus poor human cya
Nah. He’s only sorry cuz he got in trouble & lost his account. If he wasn’t banned, he would’ve never apologized or felt bad. & befriending victims is often manipulation to get them to accept your apology.
@@TaylorWaylor97 if you want consistency regarding bans on twitch then your fighting a lost cause. they allow ppl getting fucked on stream but then others get banned for little stuff just to name 1 example.
Idk if you just didn't want to touch the topic, or completely forgot about it. But there was huge incident with another streamer where the streamer was being very manipulative, and inappropriate with Poki's circle. And for some reason everyone turned the whole situation onto Poki just because "she led him on" as a lot of internet would say. Just completely ignored the guy that did the obviously worse things, just to hate on her.
@@Fidozo15 most men need to understand what women will actually be interested them in todays day and age and stop aiming above their abilities if that’s the case. Or just be happy without the stress of women.
I will never understand why people donate their hard earned money to any streamer wether they're a fan of them or not, especially an E-girl who will more than likely never acknowledge their existence. This is just from my point of view. If they want to donate, I can't judge them. To each their own.
I get it, its tough at times, but people would kill to be in their position, so lets not act like they are not living the lives most people only ever dream of.
Thank you for this, because Poki has been around for so long these things pop up and go away and you don't realize how much these things add up and can hurt an individual or other groups of individuals.
what if i say that i been once a poki watcher for a short time aswell and after realising how weird her chat is and callin them out on that my message or my account i litterly cant remember cuz well its so long ago got deleated/banned. imo that shows atleast at that point of time what the intentions behind such a streamer/ maybe only her mods are. and ima saying it rn its fkn money and she they are fine with ppl simpin on that level. its actually sad what ppl do for money sorry to say. proof me wrong or leave a comment and change my opinion. interesting topic
@@wilddude4205 She sexualized herself to the most possible level possible and hid the truth of having a boyfriend, too, to get the simping going. If playing with fire is too hot, you gotta get into a working field where things are cool and slow. It's on her I say.
Pokimane did some stupid stuff in the past but again we all did some really, REALLY stupid things in the past, I'm talking peeing in a water bottle type of stupid stuff. Now in the present, Pokimane is a hard working individual who puts time and effort into her streams. But at the end of the day she's a human, like you and me, and like every human, she and us have to put up with struggles a bunch of times per day, week, month and year. As for the more recent incidents involving Pokimane, being the deepfake situation and the twitch worker, it sucks to go through that, regardless if you are a man or woman, I hope she does continue and succeed after those recent incidents. At the end of the day, know that you, me, and everyone else including Pokimane will make mistakes, and it's okay to make mistakes knowing that you'll learn from them.
The thing is, even if that level of sexism and sexual harassment *is* currently the reality of streaming doesn’t mean it *has* to be (and I’m a bit disappointed Ludwig went that route because from the bit I know of him he seems like a good guy and that kind of mindset reflect poorly on him). A culture has obviously been curated where people think that’s okay but it’s *also okay* to challenge that being the norm. I’m not saying she’s innocent or in the right or whatever, I don’t know much of her, but I do think it’s despicable to just throw your hands up and be, “well shucks, that’s how it is, no changing it.” Just because something is “normal” doesn’t mean it’s okay and we often don’t do better without people challenging these negative norms we have.
Yeah but woman shouldn't have to worry about getting harassed in public but they do. Ludwig never said it was unfixable. Just that until things change it is the reality. The best thing Poki can do in the short term is just moderate, moderate, moderate. Keep them mods working. We shouldnt have to worry about sending our children to grade school and them coming back alive. But until something seriously changes we do.
i hate the fake outrage from female streamers. women do this thing they find male spaces and want to insert themselves into it. no one begged of forced any e-thott to start streaming on twitch or to dress half naked on streams or bend over pretending to pick things up, they know what they are doing when they go live full make up and all to "play games" to a predominantly male audience. if poke w/e doesn't like being sexualized by viewers or fellow streamers she should show her partner and or tell her male simp audience that she will never do sexual favours with any of them ever. but we all know she wouldn't the same girl who can say the N-word on stream then pretends to be a victim by simply being a woman is ridiculous, if she were more ghetto no one would have had an issue with it and she wouldn't have had to appologize. if she doesn't like the money she's making from her simp army she can simply refund it too.
No matter how you feel about Jidion or Pokimane in that situation, you cannot convince me that a permanent ban was justified. Dude himself didn't even have a problem with the initial ban.
I feel like the ban wouldn’t be bad, if twitch’s banning was consistent but it literally not. Also how is that a perma ban but fucking on stream 1 week like it makes no sense
A 2 week suspension is justified. That's it. It didn't have to be permanent. A girl literally spread her cheeks and revealed her vagina and was banned for three days. The girl that fucked on stream was banned for a week. A girl threatened to bomb the twitch HQ, got permanently banned, apologized and then got unbanned. It's ridiculous
What I find funny and unfair is how jideon got perma banned and some girl who streamed having intercourse got a few days ban. Just shows how twitch is..
I hate how we analyze these people with a magnifying glass so much like they aren’t human and we are perfect. It’s actually sickening to an extent. It’s going to go to a point no one can come to the forefront to provide people happiness because everyone has dirt on them.
Wait what are you saying? I think this video is very beneficial. I don't really follow up on what Poki's doing and I only know her through other streamers/Y-Tubers, but seeing this video made me realize how messed up and dangerous a streaming career can be. At the same time, it doesn't "dehumanize" her, or it doesn't seem like it?
@@auri3003 It does dehumanize her because humans do dumb things and people critique other people like they’ve never done stupid things- except it wasn’t on camera. Then they go as far as to dehumanize them on social media platforms to far extremes and in reality, they don’t really care. They just feel powerful and egotistical that they can post to a platform and people will “like” what they have to say
So ridiculous that the guy saying "...only 500?? Get ur bread up..." probably didn't even have 5 bucks to give to her but was just screwing with the simps minds lol smfh
The production in your vids keeps getting better and better. I'm learning adobe premiere and after effects and its making me appreciate editing like yours more.
This is why I would rather be a UA-camr. Atleast I can edit my videos and not have to worry about the live reactions like this. And I don't even show my face, thanks Pat for these videos they help me understand more of what I'm getting into. Keep up the great work man💙💙💙
I’ve been following here for a few years now. I only knew that she needed to take a long break from streaming and social media a while ago. I had no idea about all of this! Great stuff Pat!
Pretty privlage isn’t a thing, the fact that a attractive women can get away without a speeding ticket isn’t privileged, it’s called being objectified/sexualized and it makes you feel like shit. Women don’t have it easy.
@@LordOfElysium . .. Not trying to be a dick but do you actually think you are smarter than the clinical psychologist who have spent their life studying these things lmao ? There have been scholars and academics doing studies on this before you were even born. Google is your friend.
@@LordOfElysium if anything, it just tells me that people are not aware that there are people that are considered “ugly” that are being treated disrespectfully on a regular basis simply because of something they can’t control.. and they wonder why women hate each other..
I will never understand why some people are so obsessed with Pokimane, trying to sexualize her. She is just minding her own business playing games or just chatting most of the time. Unlike many other girls on Twitch who purposefully are trying to exploit their male audiences with actively promoting some sorts of "exclusive content" on certain platforms...
I feel like the lack of "exclusive content" as you put it adds to the obsessiveness of these internet weirdos, but even lewd streamer like Amourant has stalker. Lewd or not, or whether that's exploitative or not, at least on twitch just being a woman will attract fans that will take it too far P.S. On twitch it seems like most of the time it's a guy that take ting too far but I'm a KPOP fan and over there it's mostly fangirls that take things too far so being weird is not gender exclusive
In the real world, where no one cares about Twitch, or it's streamers, this is a non issue. Drama drama drama.....get paid. It's so tough sitting in front of a camera 24/7 and having people just give you money. That is much harder than going and getting a real job.
Adding some context: JiDion got permabanned for continuing to harass Poki off platform by encouraging his viewers to tweet at her and changing his profile pic to a photo of her without makeup. He is still permabanned because he snuck into Twitchcon and made a scene. I think he would’ve been unbanned if he didn’t keep escalating his antics.
The TwitchCon thing did nothing to Worsen his chances of getting unbanned. They were Clearly already never going to unban him after the Poki stuff Lmao.
I mean I feel for her a little cause ain't nobody want to be fucked with constantly but I meannnnnnn that 20 mil in the bank for sitting in a chair and being pretty and praised for the first 3 years sure should make up for it.
My bro. These girl twitch streamers know what they are doing. It comes with the territory. Streamers like poki bring in way more money than most men streamers can ever dream of. Being sexualized is part of the territory. She can always quit and go find a 9-5 job if she wants. But, we both know that ain’t gonna happen
Thank you, i really hate when they act like they are doing nothing wrong and people are like "well what is she supposed to do?" exactly that, realize what you are doing is wrong taking advantage from mentally ill people, don't take donations and go get another job where you don't take advantage from mentally ill people, was that so hard to come up with?
@@XxDrJewxX There is also many normal people, adult people who simply want to support streamers they watch. If you are adult, you should know how to handle your money and if you dont.. then its your own fault. Nobody is forcing them to donate. Also its not fine to harass someone just because they are woman. Yeah, being pretty helps with many things and same goes for many male streamers who are handsome.
Just because the industry is shit doesn't mean we can't fucking change it. Women shouldn't HAVE to deal with this shit, that's why women are speaking out against it. And sure there is some women on the platform who are making use of it, but that's not an argument to sexualize the women who aren't doing that.
As a content creator yourself, you know putting yourself out there opens you up to public scrutiny. Unfortunately we don’t get to choose how the public scrutinizes. My mentality has always been to either deal with it or find something else. Maybe I’m oversimplifying it, but like that old adage says “If you don’t like your job, then quit”. I’m also like 38 and a boomer so idk 🤷🏻♂️ Keep up the great work man, your videos are always entertaining and informative 🙌🏻
Pokimane reveled in the popularity and stoked the flames herself. She had no complaints when she was on top. She is NOT a victim. She is someone whose chickens finally came home to roost.
Yeah exactly. She could leave at any point. There are so many women who are just as beautiful and just as good at video games but who choose not to stream. Whether because the money isn't worth the obsessive fans and stalkers or maybe they have other dreams or have too much integrity to pretend to be single to gain more money. There are benefits and drawbacks to any job. No one is forcing her to be a streamer so I don't really feel bad for her. She has plenty of money she could retire, go to university, do whatever she wanted to do. She just CHOOSES to stream. Just like if she had chosen to become a nurse like me dealing with illness and bacteria is just a drawback of the job. I currently have covid and am home right now. Every job has its own risks and rewards. I didn't become a nurse expecting to never deal with people who are sick and never put my own health at risk. It's just how it is
These type of comments is exactly why she keeps getting harassed. Some of y’all are so blinded by your hatred of her that you’re willing to shrug at the idea of her getting hurt
@@soiboi4497 That's like if a police officer joined the force and then got upset that he was constantly having to put himself at risk. There are risks and drawbacks to every job. Police officers have to deal with mentally ill people trying to hurt them all the time too. Some jobs just carry more inherent risk than other jobs do. And if you don't want to take that risk you don't have to, you can change jobs at any point. Yeah police officers and nurses and streamers shouldn't have to deal with mentally ill people trying to hurt them but that's the reality of the world and there's nothing anyone can do to get rid of those people. Realistically the only thing she can do is stop complaining and realize it's a risk of the job or change jobs. There is NO other option. We don't live in a perfect utopia we will never exist in a time where there aren't mentally ill people getting violent and angry over the internet. Realistically what other option is there? She can either quit taking these mentally ill people's money and thereby remove the risk or continue to take their money and continue to take the risk. The end.
@@WhitneyDahlin wouldn’t you want to fight for a better world? Why tolerate a shitty position? Why not fight to make it better? This defeatism mindset of “it is what it is, the world’s not fair” isn’t gonna get us anywhere. Idk about you, but I would rather speak out than to tolerate hate🤷🏽♂️
@@soiboi4497 you're preaching to the choir. We all agree it shouldn't happen. These people are clearly mentally ill, why don't you go lecture them and see how much that does to fix their mental illness. You're ignoring she's feeding into their mental illness. She shouldn't be taking these mentally ill people's money and use it to fund her already enormous bank account. All she has to do is not take money from them and they won't feel entitled to her anymore. You think she should get to keep these obsessed people's money but also shouldn't have to deal with being the object of their obsession. That's the only reason they give her money to begin with! It's impossible. She wouldn't have made 95% of all the money she has ever made if she stopped taking money from the obsessives. How would she even weed out who was a mentally ill weirdo and who wasn't? THAT'S the point. Pokimane herself is the ONLY one who can take action to stop it. Literally no one else has that power.
Complaining that gundam is going after pokimanes livelihood is kind of like complaining that rehab centers are going after the livelihoods of drug dealers.
This whole situation is messed up. She has every right to be upset. Especially, when Ludwig tried trolling her account because he was upset. Women deserve to be treated better. I can't believe this is still happening in 2023.
I really don't like big streamers because most of them are genuinely so out of touch and people just keep throwing money at them for a second of attention. Small streamers are a completely different story. So much more fun to watch someone who's doing it as a hobby and not as a job.
Seems you're casting a wide net over those who do this for a job. It's not just those that get 30,000+ viewers a stream that do this for a job. I watch a couple of these smaller to mid-sized streamers that do this for a job. They're not out of touch. They simply just so happened to garner a following either over a very long period of time (Northernlion, Nyanners, etc.), are simply very clearly skilled at what they do (Shark3zero), have a unique and charismatic personality (Shenpai), etc. EDIT: I might actually need a citation on Nyanners' average viewcount, as I might have underestimated her presence on Twitch.
After this though I still can’t say I feel bad for Poki she literally did all of this to herself I get it you have to make money somehow but what gets me about her and some of the other big names is that we try to ruin them when they already have there net worth made or a very strong team backing them up. I just can’t stand that now people choose to bitch when they already created the monster and there strong following will continue to support them another example is Logan Paul because he has good looks he can get away with anything
It’s shocking how many things happen to her that she has a problem with, yet she has no problem doing things to other people. Sharing private DM’s on stream, threatening sponsors, rinsing subs with overpriced cookies.
if people want to give their money to anyone fine let them its their problem, it would be good to tell them that its wrong and how will they manage afterwards but its wrong when you try to demonize or create a villian out of the person who received the money, in the end Poki or any other stream can't force you to subscribe or donate
They can't but they should make it clear there is no chance, not even 0.0000000001% chance that they will ever get together with the donators. Because that is the sole reason some guys will donate the last pennies from their bank account to a streamer. Just because they think they will be notified, maybe even today.
It's because she doesn't at all tell then to stop she just supports their self destructive behavior because it benefits her its like bitcoin scammed getting people to buy their coin knowing Damm well they won't gain shit and the scammer has everything to gain. But then again if I was her I wouldn't say shit other if simps donating me 1k everyday to exist n play games like I already do
@alexmason5521 these guys aren't "rational human beings" obviously dumbass they need mental help and she is not helping them get that help she's just reinforcing self destructive behaviors.
Pretty privilege is a thing but not the ONLY thing required for success. It might give you a slight advantage but if you are lazy and don't put in the work nothing will happen.
"slight advantage" is underplaying it but ofc u have to put the work in. Can you name a single overweight popular female streamer? It's much more than slight.
Stay hydrated
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Don't forget the electrolytes
Why do you love water so much btw are you fasting
It's fine to find your streamers, such as Pokimane, attractive and pretty and shit like that, but I'll never understand the mental state of those who constantly donate 1000s or even 100s of dollars to these people, and see nothing wrong with it
she is mid/ugly.
They just want to be recognized by their idols they hide behind their desks and lose their life savings to a streamer that has no idea who they are it’s the mentality of a sigma male
Then you probably got lucky and found someone you like/love, But let me tell you being alone while other people joke about it and shit, that seeping loneliness keeps closing in day by day and the weight of that fucking loneliness is fucking devastating. So other people find a mantra/habit/coping mechanism no matter how fuck up it is just to ignore/forget that loneliness even just for a couple of hours a day. I got extremely lucky too because 25+ years ago I was one of those now I'm married with 3 kids and living my life to the fullest, it ain't perfect and there's up and downs but god I love my family.
@@miirico5398 They are just incels
@@mkapp8724 LOL
"She was every Reddit and Discord mod's dream girl." No, not really because she wasn't 13.
Lol
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Elaborate 🚨
@@HypeGod6969 its a running meme in the community
@speedmeter There have been discord/reddit mods busted for being Pedos and/or called out for child Grooming.
The fact that Twitch banned the word SIMP & classifies it as bullying tells you everything you need to know about what's really going on here! 👍
what if i say that i been once a poki watcher for a short time aswell and after realising how weird her chat is and callin them out on that my message or my account i litterly cant remember cuz well its so long ago got deleated/banned.
imo that shows atleast at that point of time what the intentions behind such a streamer/ maybe only her mods are. and ima saying it rn its fkn money and she they are fine with ppl simpin on that level. its actually sad what ppl do for money sorry to say. proof me wrong or leave a comment and change my opinion. interesting topic
@@wilddude4205 OH I don't disagree with you ONE BIT! I tell my oldest kids all the time people do the stupidest things OVER MONEY! Don't know why, but they just do.
@@wilddude4205 I think I've heard her talking about issues with mods like that before. That's why they get yeeted.
Man, I'll never understand watching long hours of stream. I can barely watch 10 mins of a stream without getting bored. I like twitch highlights of some streamers but I can't for the life of me watch a real stream. The downtimes are insane, the chat is dumb. Chat in streams are just spams, mindless spam.
@@Jay9966 idk who you're replying to but I'm the same. I usually watch the clips/UA-cam channel of the streamer
donating to some person in their room playing video games or watching tv is just insane to me
What I'm saying man.... Just go play the game bruh it's way more fun
Donating to people who literally do nothing on tik tok lives is way more insane to me
What I do not understand is how people can blame streamers for not telling fans not to donate so they dont go broke. The ones who are donating should be responsible for their own money
Because they accept it. Jerma would give it back and tell them to pay their bills. Lol there's a difference between a good person and a selfish person.
@@JundaMane that's what jdillion was trying to explain
Granted using an extremely inappropriate method and quite disgusting and overall idiotic way of doing it
But within his flawed way I think he was genuinely trying to keep 100 with his male audience
Wake up ain't no chance for y'all stop wasting your money
Which twitch obviously didn't like
Exactly, most of them should already know how to handle their money, aren't they adults? Unless you're telling me that the only people donating are dumb kids and Pokimane knows that, I don't see why they need the streamer to say something on their poor handling of money.
@@toidIllorTAmI I'm sorry but i can't blame the girl here, she's doing what every normal persona would do "accept money" i'll never get the incel mentality of threatikg female streamer, V tubers like "the succubus that sucks money and threat men like garbage"
You could argue? That they manipulate people by dressing on a revealing way but that doesn't work because the people that donate to her are GROWN MEN, they are not children, Hell if you care so much about people getting "scammed" why not declare war on major companies like Hasbro, EA or literally every snack and drink brand ever?
@dsgjjang good. she already took the money though, and said the N word, yet stayed on twitch AND profited through "being single" lol keep simping tho.
Everytime I get insight into twitch drama, I'm amazed what an absolute bunch of babies hangs out on that site.
Its people who live online
Right…sounds exhausting
Didn’t think it was possible, but it seems worse than Reddit
People who have no life
simps
I’m a simple man. I see a Patrick CC video, I click and hydrate.
chad
W Man
you had me at "I’m a simp"
a SIMP-le man if you will…
and you also glaze his meat
the biggest failure of streamers and the streaming industry at large is: not learning from the lessons that literally every other entertainment industry has been learning for the last 100+ years
sure, streaming is a new area with sort of new dynamics, but nothing that happens within the twitch "community" is new
everything from the goofy parasocial nature of it, to the pseudo-celebrity aspects, to the endless fake friendships/business relationships, all happen in every industry, big to small
fact is, twitch just has/had no adult role models to teach and bring up the younger 'talent'; all you have are kids who took one philosophy class and/or kids who will do anything for more money
I’ve never used twitch and seeing videos like this always makes me feel better about not using the platform. Being a twitch user looks exhausting and overstimulating
yea karens like pokimane with chats full of simps are the worst streams ever.
Lmfao. Congrats kid. No different than commenting on yt videos. 😂
@@JayRawstaBeing a twitch streamer is no different than posting a comment? What kinda logic is that?
@@johnjoseph6874That's the logic of someone who doesn't know logic
@@johnjoseph6874found the offended twitch user
Thanks pat for making mondays better
Although posting videos on Monday just works the best for my schedule, it does make me happy to give y'all something to enjoy on what most consider the "worst day of the week"
@@PatrickCc stop advertising SCAMs patrick 😩😩
@@prodkouki Wtf are you talking about
@@yourboibigbrain7353 some of his sponsors are scams
@@prodkouki So just don't buy into it and let my man get his money up 🤷🏽♂️
I don’t think Gundam was “bullying” Pokimane’s followers, but just using his brand of comedy to bring to light how sad & creepy many of her followers are.
facts, gundam just be goofing on everything,
A 21 year old girl sitting in her room recording an apology video has to be the funniest shit about the times we live in… nothing she does is THAT serious.
Indeed, also forced apologies are the funniest concept and occurrence for me… like folks get surprised when forced apologies sound forced…. 😂
ong bro but people were mad at her for it like what can she do at this point 💀💀
I have huge respect for pokimane for not Doing Onlyfans !!
@@Jack-tk1is thats bare minimum
Simp
I'm sorry but pretty privilege is definitely a true thing. Just sayin
@@joey_pasquariello not about her per se, but in real life it's scary how MUCH it happens.
@@joey_pasquariello meh like he said in the video she didnt have much competition
this vid is one of Patrick CCs few Ls. He said that the only reason why she was being attacked was because she was the "queen of twitch?" Idiotic, she wouldnt be being attacked in the first place if she had never used the n word like that. Its not unprompted. A lot of white knighting going on in this vid.
Yeah and ugly privilege is too… look at all the crazy real life reality shows out there lol - guess us average ppl are just chillin fam. ❤😂
Hope you keep up this energy with things like white privilege. Although pretty privilege is quite the concept to be upset about though.
Even as a kid when I was in to MLG I would get bored after two hours watching a stream that wasn't apart of a major championship.
People watch other people stream EVERYDAY is weird no cap.
Folks need to touch grass
Giving your money to a streamer who sits around all day at home in their pajamas playing videogames is beyond moronic
I forgot how weird it was that Pokimane, Ninja, and Jidion all got wrapped up in the same drama
It is just a high school drama, it's pretty funny. Jideon being a dick, Ninja trying to help out a guy getting a relatively severe punishment, Poki taking it as an affront to her kingdom punishable by permaban, Ninja thinking just telling the truth to Poki would end everything but then threatening her for some reason, Poki then being petty enough to blow the drama wide open by sharing their private DMs, Ninjas wife coming in and threatening Poki even more...
Such a bizarre clash of egos, I can say with 100% certainty that everyone involved was acting insane, and not one of them chose the smart move
@@Caffeine_Addict_2020my 3 brain cells in a nutshell
@@Caffeine_Addict_2020 I don't watch Poki's shit, but Jideon sexually harassed her on livestream to a massive audience, and said some pretty explicit shit. He earned that perma ban. Twitch is still shitty for pandering to these audiences though.
@@jcdentoid Jideon was an idiot for it, yea. Permaban is way too severe for what comes out to being some bullying, that's his livelihood completely erased. If you permabanned everyone who bullied, twitch would be a ghost town. FFS much of twitch, and video game culture as a whole, runs on bullying
@Freerocky16 Dawg, if this were an office and you said this about your coworker to everyone, your ass would get fired for sexual harrassment.
Love the range of content you've put out lately ❤
Really crazy to see how far your channel has come. From aux battles and cool music stuff, to this unexpected, but nonetheless awesome piece. Proud of you dawg
I am very surprise about the fact you didn't talk about the drama that happened between her and blowbax, where she claimed him reading tweets was somehow copyright infringement and decided to file false copyright strixes on his channel, which happened way before itsagundams drama with her and where most of the starting seeds of scrutiny came from and why it was such a big explosion of hate against her when she went after itsagundams sponsors, which she never publicly appologized for trying to ruin blowbax's career with false copyright strikes.
I mean, this whole video is hugely simping and pretending an person who's entire personally is seeking attention online is victim when she gets that attention
Pretty Privilege doesn't mean the person has no talent or skill.
It just means, the notoriety one receives is far above the skill or talent one has. There are hundreds of other women like Pokemne who have similar talent, but won't be as popular and successful as her because they're not as attractive/pretty.
So, no. She isn't "accused" of pretty privilege. She has it. It's not a sin, it's just a fact.
It’s a phenomenon that exists. Kinda like tall, good looking men end up being more successful on average. Dunno enough about any of these women to say whether it’s the case for them
I agree with the statement but what's pokimain talent again?
@@OldFantasy streaming on twitch? Lol you tell me
Whats her talent doe, (im deadass asking i dont watch her streams)
Beeing pretty brings you attention, but if you’re not entertaining, nobody will stay.
" These men are often seen as *simps* "
I died😭😂
Fr, he said it like he was teaching Biology n 'Simps' was a subtopic😂
lmao homeboy described simps like they are a subspecies of human
@@davidalpeter9963 they are pretty much
@@davidalpeter9963 i mean, they are
Seeing all of these issues, especially the most recent regarding that employee using her fan base, I can’t imagine the constant stress that comes with this.
Yeah what a problem. Like world hunger isn’t a thing. Shamrock shake.
@@Chunkyjalapeno why are you acting like people don't have the right to be affected by their personal problems because world crises exist? Bffr 💀
@@Chunkyjalapeno are you okay? do you need some kind of psychologist because this just exhibits your lack of empathy which could be caused by other factors. You and me have personal issues that affect us like normal people do and we’re allowed to feel negative emotions even if there’s bigger global issues at hand. if you don’t have personal issues and don’t let them affect you then
A. You’re stupidly young with no life experience, go on youtube kids.
B. There’s something very wrong with you and I would deeply consider getting a therapist or psychologist and deal with your issues.
@@Chunkyjalapeno dumb take
this happens all the time and is a nothing burger - you know how many people were in fake relationships in school and never met each other ? the value exchange is the same everyone wanted to skip the system so they got caught up in a fake one.
Sadly though this needs to be updated. The last 6 months she has really shown her colors. Putting men down, disgracing "broke boys", talking shit about reaction videos... which is something she does all the time, etc.
I think there's an inherent problem with a lot of websites/platforms. Degrading societies. People need to go out more, have a healthy social life and focus on themselves, instead of being stuck on screens for hours, giving so much time, attention, money and power in the hands of a few people (so-called "influencers"), who don't give a damn about them. Yes, you could argue they're providing entertainment, but honestly watching all of this is just a new low of how sad and tragic our society has become.
Agreed, I remember my reading intervention teacher once said “Maybe the Greek gods were just celebrities that people worshipped so much they believed they were gods”, I’m sure she didn’t mean it to sound such a way but it does really show how (for lack of a better term) dystopian the word “influencer” is, as if it is a good and normal thing to have so many people of the few “influence the masses” nonchalantly, and we are just supposed to “go with the flow” and such or be left behind, unfortunate indeed, and streamers are *not* helping
I don't like Pokimane, but she's right, she shouldn't have to endure such harassment. Also, just because something is common, doesn't mean it's normal or that it should be allowed to continue to be a common occurrence.
W bro, nothing else to say
She shouldn't but it comes with the territory. If your brand is based on sexualizing yourself, don't be surprised when you're sexualized. She sold her soul for views and cash, and got very rich doing so. This is just the consequence of this "trade". This is no different than being a prostitute and then wondering why your clients don't respect you.
The honest truth is, if she was a male, she would be lost in the wind with zero viewership. At least streamers like Ninja have to rely on competence and skill when playing games to be famous. People watch him for example, for his skill and plays. That is how he is valued, while Pokimane is valued for her looks. Had she actually had any skill, she may attract a different fanbase. But unfortunately if looks is all you can provide, you will only attract a certain group of individuals to your content.
shes not harassed, and she doesnt face sexism. twitch is sexist towards men like Jidion and will do anything to protect the simp queen
Misogyny is the most acceptable and commonly practiced form of bigotry in the world. I can’t tell you how many examples I have of men openly demonizing homophobia or racism while within the same half hour say very sexist things and laugh about it. I mean, look at the way words used to insult women are thrown around so easily, while similar words used to hate on other groups are banned entirely. I’ve been really surprised and disappointed in my life to see just how much living and working as a female woman in world has affected me and the outcome of my career, my efforts, relationships, etc. I never would’ve expected that when I graduated high school. I also believed it was a thing of the past. It sickens me to imagine how much worse it is in places like Saudi Arabia. Why is it that so many men hate the very people they desire most? What pathetic insecurity must they be filled with? But “might is right.” Even if it isn’t, it wins. How very sad. I appreciate patient, loving, respectful men more and more all the time.
yeah it makes sense you defend people like pokimane and write entire articles@@TheReluctantVlogger
Man, the quality of these videos are addicting.
Even if these streamers hardly qualify as celebrities, the way the new media are treating them is quite reminiscent. Now a lot of people feel kind of sorry about Britney, the same who harassed her until he reached her actual state.
On the saddest lowest level… influencer drama is the craziest thing to ever exist since the creation of everything…. I hate it here.
Did u know "Influencer" actually means modern day propagandist.
@@ishizukahikaru643 yes!
It isn't crazy at all. It's incredibly mid. I want to say, even low-intensity with zero impact.
You guys wouldn't know crazy if it slapped you in the face. Here, I will give you a hint:
Read the ingredient list of the stuff you buy in grocery stores and look up what all those chemicals do.
Or look up what the World Economic Forum has cooked up for summer vacations.
Now those are CRAZY things. This Influencer drama is just incredibly menial.
It’s insane how people will donate THAT much money to someone in general
You guys have money?
I've exploited people online before. But that was like 24 years ago when I intentionally hung out in chatrooms pretending to be a 12 year old girl to convince creeps to buy me prepaid cellphone cards.
Idk why this is so funny 😭did they do it ?
@@kushfrm704 yes, I had a cell phone for years that I didn't pay for.
bro u did not have to share that 😂
@@kingzeno1708 but I wanted to. My mom was all like "there's creeps all over the internet cuz the news said so" and 14 year old me was like "but moooom I know betterthan to talk to weirdos" and secretly I was like "12/f/cali I got a cell phone with no minutes and my parents keep the house phone in their room at night cuz I got caught talking to guyz lol"
Creeps would send me the code from a cell phone prepaid card and their number expecting a young girl to call, and I'd just log off and never use that AOL or Yahoo account again. What were they gonna do, say they were scammed by someone claiming to be 12?
Good times.
@@kloroformd :/ that’s sad you were 14 at the time, they would of sent it to you if you were 12 or 14 because that’s how creeps operate. I’m happy your doing better now and thank you for sharing❤️
i love patrick cc, his voice is like hes documenting a crime series LOL
she didnt defend her fans she defended her wallet lol she does not care dude
fr its crazy what people do willingly, like seriously how the fuck do these simps not understand that theyre not gonna reach anything by their actions
Exactly she doesnt care about anyone but herself
@jumanauwu its important how u make money imo, if u realise ur making money with simps most of them prob under age and u do litterly nothing against it or mods even ban ppl or messages who go against these comments its even worse imo. ppl who make money with shady trades etc are the same for me tbh
@@wilddude4205 Thats every streamer though.
@@kauswekazilimani3736 Ok so you don't do anything to the people that give you the money or donate to you on stream. But when somebody calls you out on that, you can call out the person that called you about not telling your viewers to not donate hefty amounts? Pokimane is a hypocrite. If she didn't call people out for calling her out for not telling her viewers to stop donating, this drama would have never happened. I don't think Pokimane isn't one of those who has their cleavage staring straight at the camera. I mean those Twitch thots are on a whole nother level. But if Pokimane had a problem with Pretty privilege she needs to address it without trying to flag people calling her out. Her flagging videos shows she's taking advantage of pretty privilege. So she's a hypocrite in my opinion.
YES ! I'm a creative type dreaming of making it but not dreaming about being famous AT ALL and this video is an exemple of why I don't need it in my life to the point where I still don't know if I want to show my face or if I should hide in a creative way. I have second hand anxiety from all the public/online figures going though things this bad. Thanx for the video.
The creative industry will be sabotaged by AI generated content. It's already happening to Hollywood and if those multi-million dollar top talent cannot stop Big Corporate, neither can you.
Look for future work perspectives in venues that are hard to replace with robotics as well as software.
You are most welcome.
I swear that little "winding down sound" that you have edited in when you're talking about a complicated situation that just got worse always gives me a sinking feeling. Seriously great video!
I really hate it when people say, "I can't change the past," when they're supposed to be apologizing.
Goth baddie
Bro your Videos are the best & most interesting too. The way you break them down & keep us interested the whole time is Unbelievable. Appreciate you & your work 💯. Stay blessed bro 👍🏽👊🏽✌🏽🫡
super proud of you bro. found your channel when i was just starting out high school, it was the best rapper by state video if im not mistaken. your video stating your goals for 2022 couldn't have been more perfect and as someone who's been here for a lot of the ride we're all proud of you pat🖤
JiDion was spitting straight FACTS to those men tho 😂
Deadass 💀
Dude wasn’t wrong and got banned for it. Double standard.
You know you can't speak facts that hurt the correct group's feelings anymore. Especially when that group is women
Black man coming at a pretty white girl wasn’t gonna end well
Yeah, facts... But you shouldnt talk about someone like that, definitely not someone you dont know. Imagine someone was talking about your girlfriend like that, would you be okay with that?
She knows exactly what shes exploiting.
Lmao
and who wouldn’t?
Right and I hate how this guy basically dumps for her too and tries to paint it as if streamer girls are oppressed and are objectified, yet when you click on their streams, it’s usually minimal clothing and the game in a little corner. Like we know the gameplay wasn’t part of your mystique lol
Great video, it's a great showcase of the horrible situation she's going through. I will still dislike her but thing is, many people like her usually become this unlikable because they have to go through horrible events such as the ones presented here. It's true for many people I used to know, and I had always suspected that in Poki, it was just never as clear as this video has shown.
what if i say that i been once a poki watcher for a short time aswell and after realising how weird her chat is and callin them out on that my message or my account i litterly cant remember cuz well its so long ago got deleated/banned.
imo that shows atleast at that point of time what the intentions behind such a streamer/ maybe only her mods are. and ima saying it rn its fkn money and she they are fine with ppl simpin on that level. its actually sad what ppl do for money sorry to say. proof me wrong or leave a comment and change my opinion. interesting topic
@@wilddude4205 you sound like you are salty about losing your account more than anything.
@@EgoistTheMoon it was on old twitch account indeed but my messages got just deleated or got a timeout, idk if i even got banned my man but u do u
@@wilddude4205 why are you saying your account got banned/deleted instead of saying she banned you from her chat or kept timing you out?
Don't say "u do u". You are the one not using punctuation and writing poorly. It's not my fault I didn't get what you said.
@@EgoistTheMoon bro did u even read what i say its so long ago i cant remember and it doesnt matter w/e ur the fanboy here right xD geezus poor human cya
I hope we see more Streamer stories like this, I really enjoy your video styles...
I think accepting and apologizing for their mistake and even becoming friends with the victim should (in some cases) be enough for an unban
you seem gullible.
@@urheehoohe/she is rlly gullible
Nah. He’s only sorry cuz he got in trouble & lost his account. If he wasn’t banned, he would’ve never apologized or felt bad.
& befriending victims is often manipulation to get them to accept your apology.
WTF would any sane person accept becoming friends from parasites like JiDion?
@@urheehooI can tell what type of person you are just based of the this comment alone 😔
A simple quiet life is a great way to avoid a lot of these problems, but you know what they say. More money more problems
I just wanna know why dude didn’t get banned for having deep fakes in his tabs.
bc what you do in your free time isn't against TOS 😝
@@gimmixxx8767 lol
@@pocketsfullofH YOLO!
@@gimmixxx8767 if it’s on screen being seen by thousands it’s not just “in his free time” anymore
@@TaylorWaylor97 if you want consistency regarding bans on twitch then your fighting a lost cause. they allow ppl getting fucked on stream but then others get banned for little stuff just to name 1 example.
All her apologies seemed without empathy and only done to continue the cash flow.
That's just because your brain is broken
Lets be real, if she cried shed be called ,,fake" if she didnt she s still ,,fake" whatever u do. It wont be enough
Idk if you just didn't want to touch the topic, or completely forgot about it. But there was huge incident with another streamer where the streamer was being very manipulative, and inappropriate with Poki's circle. And for some reason everyone turned the whole situation onto Poki just because "she led him on" as a lot of internet would say. Just completely ignored the guy that did the obviously worse things, just to hate on her.
"Incidents" involving Influencers by nature are never huge nor special. Low-hanging fruit.
i cant take her apologies sincere when she talks in that "sweet tone" and looks confused the whole time like shes not being completely honest lmao
Great video and I'm glad your bringing attention to this in a non-selfish way like some of the news youtubers do.
I feel like he leaned a little too deep into the poggers stance in this video but it is unique from most poki content I see online
The fact 40,000 people would watch her just because she’s a decent looking woman is wild. Something is wrong with modern man
The modern men is scared of the good old rejection. We're more afraid of being rejected than death
@@Fidozo15 most men need to understand what women will actually be interested them in todays day and age and stop aiming above their abilities if that’s the case.
Or just be happy without the stress of women.
Or maybe people just find her content entertaining?
@@opheliarosewood7847 yeah if she looked like you and had the exact same content she wouldn’t have 4 people watching let alone 40,000
@@jbone3777 Y'all really just be hating a woman because she looks good lmao
I will never understand why people donate their hard earned money to any streamer wether they're a fan of them or not, especially an E-girl who will more than likely never acknowledge their existence.
This is just from my point of view. If they want to donate, I can't judge them. To each their own.
I can't even imagine how fucked up it would be seeing a deep fake of myself doing some messed up shit😐
Yeah, those poor women.
I can't imagine being someone's e-friend and being referred to as "chat" and especially not giving said e-friend money
She's been ACUSED of having pretty privilege? Are you serious? This is OBVIOUS to ANYONE with a set of eyes.
@@swallowingtherabbitwhole9552 lmao
I don’t find her attractive at all
@@rooksman64 Don't get me wrong, I agree with ya. But unfortunately most men on the internet don't see reality.
She’s cute at best. Pretty would be Scarlet Johansson, Margot Robbie, Jessica Alba.
@@donttalktomeyoureannoying8736 That's not my argument.
I get it, its tough at times, but people would kill to be in their position, so lets not act like they are not living the lives most people only ever dream of.
Shes not gonna date you bro.....
Thank you for this, because Poki has been around for so long these things pop up and go away and you don't realize how much these things add up and can hurt an individual or other groups of individuals.
you look like a pokimane fan lmfao
what if i say that i been once a poki watcher for a short time aswell and after realising how weird her chat is and callin them out on that my message or my account i litterly cant remember cuz well its so long ago got deleated/banned.
imo that shows atleast at that point of time what the intentions behind such a streamer/ maybe only her mods are. and ima saying it rn its fkn money and she they are fine with ppl simpin on that level. its actually sad what ppl do for money sorry to say. proof me wrong or leave a comment and change my opinion. interesting topic
She is still a person in the end lol
@@closhstud3292
That's where you're wrong.
@@wilddude4205 She sexualized herself to the most possible level possible and hid the truth of having a boyfriend, too, to get the simping going. If playing with fire is too hot, you gotta get into a working field where things are cool and slow.
It's on her I say.
It's an abusive relationship going in all directions. So many are just predatory
I honestly don’t care anymore they grown ass adults
THE PIXELATED FEET. LMAO
What a World we live in. Omegalol
Pokimane did some stupid stuff in the past but again we all did some really, REALLY stupid things in the past, I'm talking peeing in a water bottle type of stupid stuff.
Now in the present, Pokimane is a hard working individual who puts time and effort into her streams. But at the end of the day she's a human, like you and me, and like every human, she and us have to put up with struggles a bunch of times per day, week, month and year.
As for the more recent incidents involving Pokimane, being the deepfake situation and the twitch worker, it sucks to go through that, regardless if you are a man or woman, I hope she does continue and succeed after those recent incidents.
At the end of the day, know that you, me, and everyone else including Pokimane will make mistakes, and it's okay to make mistakes knowing that you'll learn from them.
The internet doesn't forget, it will come back to get her went ever she does anything wrong in the future, so many creates had the same issue.
The thing is, even if that level of sexism and sexual harassment *is* currently the reality of streaming doesn’t mean it *has* to be (and I’m a bit disappointed Ludwig went that route because from the bit I know of him he seems like a good guy and that kind of mindset reflect poorly on him). A culture has obviously been curated where people think that’s okay but it’s *also okay* to challenge that being the norm. I’m not saying she’s innocent or in the right or whatever, I don’t know much of her, but I do think it’s despicable to just throw your hands up and be, “well shucks, that’s how it is, no changing it.” Just because something is “normal” doesn’t mean it’s okay and we often don’t do better without people challenging these negative norms we have.
Look up bowblax. He covers what many incidents she's gotten herself into. She's not a good person
Yeah but woman shouldn't have to worry about getting harassed in public but they do.
Ludwig never said it was unfixable.
Just that until things change it is the reality.
The best thing Poki can do in the short term is just moderate, moderate, moderate.
Keep them mods working.
We shouldnt have to worry about sending our children to grade school and them coming back alive. But until something seriously changes we do.
Saying something is the reality doesn't mean you can't change that being the reality
Yeah, she shouldn’t have to deal with that, women have to go through that shit all the time and she can’t even escape it online, it sucks.
i hate the fake outrage from female streamers.
women do this thing they find male spaces and want to insert themselves into it. no one begged of forced any e-thott to start streaming on twitch or to dress half naked on streams or bend over pretending to pick things up, they know what they are doing when they go live full make up and all to "play games" to a predominantly male audience.
if poke w/e doesn't like being sexualized by viewers or fellow streamers she should show her partner and or tell her male simp audience that she will never do sexual favours with any of them ever.
but we all know she wouldn't the same girl who can say the N-word on stream then pretends to be a victim by simply being a woman is ridiculous, if she were more ghetto no one would have had an issue with it and she wouldn't have had to appologize. if she doesn't like the money she's making from her simp army she can simply refund it too.
No matter how you feel about Jidion or Pokimane in that situation, you cannot convince me that a permanent ban was justified. Dude himself didn't even have a problem with the initial ban.
I feel like the ban wouldn’t be bad, if twitch’s banning was consistent but it literally not. Also how is that a perma ban but fucking on stream 1 week like it makes no sense
A 2 week suspension is justified. That's it. It didn't have to be permanent. A girl literally spread her cheeks and revealed her vagina and was banned for three days. The girl that fucked on stream was banned for a week. A girl threatened to bomb the twitch HQ, got permanently banned, apologized and then got unbanned. It's ridiculous
@@wicked521 but a woman having sex is only a couple day ban or whatever, it's odd. Twitch is very hypocritical.
I think they not buying jidion fake apology just to save himself 😂
@@gokublack3107 they will let other streamers get fucked on camera to kids tho and then buy their apology..... weird reply bro
She wearing the same dress for every apologies😭😭
What I find funny and unfair is how jideon got perma banned and some girl who streamed having intercourse got a few days ban. Just shows how twitch is..
I love ur vids and the research you do and the way u make it so interesting to watch it u seem to put a lot of effort!
I agree. Was thinking the same thing the entire time watching
I hate how we analyze these people with a magnifying glass so much like they aren’t human and we are perfect. It’s actually sickening to an extent. It’s going to go to a point no one can come to the forefront to provide people happiness because everyone has dirt on them.
Actually a refreshing take amongst all this chaos.
Wait what are you saying? I think this video is very beneficial. I don't really follow up on what Poki's doing and I only know her through other streamers/Y-Tubers, but seeing this video made me realize how messed up and dangerous a streaming career can be. At the same time, it doesn't "dehumanize" her, or it doesn't seem like it?
In reality people do NOT care. I'm still mad at Pewdiepie for saying the hard r n word yet everyone brushes that off...
@@dj.big0 who cares bruh acting like he murdered someone and got away with it
@@auri3003 It does dehumanize her because humans do dumb things and people critique other people like they’ve never done stupid things- except it wasn’t on camera. Then they go as far as to dehumanize them on social media platforms to far extremes and in reality, they don’t really care. They just feel powerful and egotistical that they can post to a platform and people will “like” what they have to say
She sure switches up fast on the whole not messing with people’s livelihood
Bro she’s a solid 4 idk why everyone was losing their shit over her
You are a part of the problem.
So ridiculous that the guy saying "...only 500?? Get ur bread up..." probably didn't even have 5 bucks to give to her but was just screwing with the simps minds lol smfh
The production in your vids keeps getting better and better. I'm learning adobe premiere and after effects and its making me appreciate editing like yours more.
This is why I would rather be a UA-camr. Atleast I can edit my videos and not have to worry about the live reactions like this. And I don't even show my face, thanks Pat for these videos they help me understand more of what I'm getting into. Keep up the great work man💙💙💙
I always wondered why people donate to strangers on Twitch.
I’ve been following here for a few years now. I only knew that she needed to take a long break from streaming and social media a while ago. I had no idea about all of this! Great stuff Pat!
On twitter I saw a Pokimane tweet and I swear some random guy replied with a picture of a tattoo of her on his leg😭
Pretty privilege is more prevalent now more than ever because dudes are thirstier than ever
Pretty privlage isn’t a thing, the fact that a attractive women can get away without a speeding ticket isn’t privileged, it’s called being objectified/sexualized and it makes you feel like shit. Women don’t have it easy.
@@LordOfElysium . .. Not trying to be a dick but do you actually think you are smarter than the clinical psychologist who have spent their life studying these things lmao ? There have been scholars and academics doing studies on this before you were even born. Google is your friend.
@@LordOfElysium if anything, it just tells me that people are not aware that there are people that are considered “ugly” that are being treated disrespectfully on a regular basis simply because of something they can’t control.. and they wonder why women hate each other..
@@LordOfElysiumbro Stfu if you aren’t paying hundreds of dollars for a ticket cause you’re attractive that’s called privelwge
@@LordOfElysium To be honest, a lot of the time they objectify themselves and use their looks to make money. That's pretty privilege.
Holy shit this video had so many turns I was not ready lol
It's almost like fame is a double edge sword.
I will never understand why some people are so obsessed with Pokimane, trying to sexualize her. She is just minding her own business playing games or just chatting most of the time. Unlike many other girls on Twitch who purposefully are trying to exploit their male audiences with actively promoting some sorts of "exclusive content" on certain platforms...
You know why bro cmon. Stop acting dumb.
She isn't "minding her own business" she's putting herself out there, selling yourself out comes with consequences.
@Andy that's literally what every twitch streamer does. Putting themselves out there, selling out content.
Pokimane is an exploiter. She exploits people, not the other way around.
I feel like the lack of "exclusive content" as you put it adds to the obsessiveness of these internet weirdos, but even lewd streamer like Amourant has stalker. Lewd or not, or whether that's exploitative or not, at least on twitch just being a woman will attract fans that will take it too far
P.S. On twitch it seems like most of the time it's a guy that take ting too far but I'm a KPOP fan and over there it's mostly fangirls that take things too far so being weird is not gender exclusive
In the real world, where no one cares about Twitch, or it's streamers, this is a non issue. Drama drama drama.....get paid. It's so tough sitting in front of a camera 24/7 and having people just give you money. That is much harder than going and getting a real job.
Yup, all just words on a screen projecting light, I honestly didn’t even watch the video, I’m just reading the comments and replying for fun lol
@@minhtrietvo8448 ROFLMAO! No, it's because I'm an adult who actually has a life, and could not care less whether twitch existed or not.
Really, really great and well-researched discussion on all the extremely problematic aspects of deep fakes that hardly ever gets talked about.
Kings, focus on yourself, pokimane ain’t goin make your lives better
Amen, neither is anyone but thouself, and those who matter (family, true friends)
Adding some context: JiDion got permabanned for continuing to harass Poki off platform by encouraging his viewers to tweet at her and changing his profile pic to a photo of her without makeup. He is still permabanned because he snuck into Twitchcon and made a scene. I think he would’ve been unbanned if he didn’t keep escalating his antics.
Thanks for the context. Yeah I like JiDion, but at times it's like.. why do you have to escalate things 😅
don't care didn't ask
@@gimmixxx8767 bla bla cry about it nobody care about your opinion
The TwitchCon thing did nothing to Worsen his chances of getting unbanned.
They were Clearly already never going to unban him after the Poki stuff Lmao.
he was already perm banned for months when he went to twitch con they weren't gonna unban him either way
The most heinous thing in the world could happen to people like Pokimane etc, and I still wouldn't care because at the end of the day they're rich.
Crazy how they get rich so easily
I mean I feel for her a little cause ain't nobody want to be fucked with constantly but I meannnnnnn that 20 mil in the bank for sitting in a chair and being pretty and praised for the first 3 years sure should make up for it.
Yup
My bro. These girl twitch streamers know what they are doing. It comes with the territory.
Streamers like poki bring in way more money than most men streamers can ever dream of. Being sexualized is part of the territory. She can always quit and go find a 9-5 job if she wants. But, we both know that ain’t gonna happen
Thank you, i really hate when they act like they are doing nothing wrong and people are like "well what is she supposed to do?" exactly that, realize what you are doing is wrong taking advantage from mentally ill people, don't take donations and go get another job where you don't take advantage from mentally ill people, was that so hard to come up with?
@@XxDrJewxX There is also many normal people, adult people who simply want to support streamers they watch. If you are adult, you should know how to handle your money and if you dont.. then its your own fault. Nobody is forcing them to donate. Also its not fine to harass someone just because they are woman. Yeah, being pretty helps with many things and same goes for many male streamers who are handsome.
Just because the industry is shit doesn't mean we can't fucking change it. Women shouldn't HAVE to deal with this shit, that's why women are speaking out against it. And sure there is some women on the platform who are making use of it, but that's not an argument to sexualize the women who aren't doing that.
As a content creator yourself, you know putting yourself out there opens you up to public scrutiny. Unfortunately we don’t get to choose how the public scrutinizes. My mentality has always been to either deal with it or find something else. Maybe I’m oversimplifying it, but like that old adage says “If you don’t like your job, then quit”. I’m also like 38 and a boomer so idk 🤷🏻♂️
Keep up the great work man, your videos are always entertaining and informative 🙌🏻
Lol very true
Pokimane reveled in the popularity and stoked the flames herself. She had no complaints when she was on top.
She is NOT a victim. She is someone whose chickens finally came home to roost.
Yeah exactly. She could leave at any point. There are so many women who are just as beautiful and just as good at video games but who choose not to stream. Whether because the money isn't worth the obsessive fans and stalkers or maybe they have other dreams or have too much integrity to pretend to be single to gain more money. There are benefits and drawbacks to any job. No one is forcing her to be a streamer so I don't really feel bad for her. She has plenty of money she could retire, go to university, do whatever she wanted to do. She just CHOOSES to stream. Just like if she had chosen to become a nurse like me dealing with illness and bacteria is just a drawback of the job. I currently have covid and am home right now. Every job has its own risks and rewards. I didn't become a nurse expecting to never deal with people who are sick and never put my own health at risk. It's just how it is
These type of comments is exactly why she keeps getting harassed. Some of y’all are so blinded by your hatred of her that you’re willing to shrug at the idea of her getting hurt
@@soiboi4497 That's like if a police officer joined the force and then got upset that he was constantly having to put himself at risk. There are risks and drawbacks to every job. Police officers have to deal with mentally ill people trying to hurt them all the time too. Some jobs just carry more inherent risk than other jobs do. And if you don't want to take that risk you don't have to, you can change jobs at any point. Yeah police officers and nurses and streamers shouldn't have to deal with mentally ill people trying to hurt them but that's the reality of the world and there's nothing anyone can do to get rid of those people. Realistically the only thing she can do is stop complaining and realize it's a risk of the job or change jobs. There is NO other option. We don't live in a perfect utopia we will never exist in a time where there aren't mentally ill people getting violent and angry over the internet. Realistically what other option is there? She can either quit taking these mentally ill people's money and thereby remove the risk or continue to take their money and continue to take the risk. The end.
@@WhitneyDahlin wouldn’t you want to fight for a better world? Why tolerate a shitty position? Why not fight to make it better? This defeatism mindset of “it is what it is, the world’s not fair” isn’t gonna get us anywhere. Idk about you, but I would rather speak out than to tolerate hate🤷🏽♂️
@@soiboi4497 you're preaching to the choir. We all agree it shouldn't happen. These people are clearly mentally ill, why don't you go lecture them and see how much that does to fix their mental illness. You're ignoring she's feeding into their mental illness. She shouldn't be taking these mentally ill people's money and use it to fund her already enormous bank account. All she has to do is not take money from them and they won't feel entitled to her anymore. You think she should get to keep these obsessed people's money but also shouldn't have to deal with being the object of their obsession. That's the only reason they give her money to begin with! It's impossible. She wouldn't have made 95% of all the money she has ever made if she stopped taking money from the obsessives. How would she even weed out who was a mentally ill weirdo and who wasn't? THAT'S the point. Pokimane herself is the ONLY one who can take action to stop it. Literally no one else has that power.
Complaining that gundam is going after pokimanes livelihood is kind of like complaining that rehab centers are going after the livelihoods of drug dealers.
patrick cc is 100% in poki chat simping
This whole situation is messed up. She has every right to be upset. Especially, when Ludwig tried trolling her account because he was upset. Women deserve to be treated better. I can't believe this is still happening in 2023.
simp
I really don't like big streamers because most of them are genuinely so out of touch and people just keep throwing money at them for a second of attention. Small streamers are a completely different story. So much more fun to watch someone who's doing it as a hobby and not as a job.
Seems you're casting a wide net over those who do this for a job.
It's not just those that get 30,000+ viewers a stream that do this for a job. I watch a couple of these smaller to mid-sized streamers that do this for a job. They're not out of touch. They simply just so happened to garner a following either over a very long period of time (Northernlion, Nyanners, etc.), are simply very clearly skilled at what they do (Shark3zero), have a unique and charismatic personality (Shenpai), etc.
EDIT: I might actually need a citation on Nyanners' average viewcount, as I might have underestimated her presence on Twitch.
@@seymourdemonica9264 simp
Small steamer aim to become the big streamers you hate
the fact people give all there time and money to a woman they don't know💀😂🤦♂️
Just seeing her face urks me. That apology video had me geek out loud lmao. Such a peasant thing to do when there is no TRUE meaning behind it..
After this though I still can’t say I feel bad for Poki she literally did all of this to herself I get it you have to make money somehow but what gets me about her and some of the other big names is that we try to ruin them when they already have there net worth made or a very strong team backing them up. I just can’t stand that now people choose to bitch when they already created the monster and there strong following will continue to support them another example is Logan Paul because he has good looks he can get away with anything
it's come to the point where I see a new upload from this channel and immediately want a glass of water 😂
Twitch is weird af lmfao, wtf is wrong with people!?
It’s shocking how many things happen to her that she has a problem with, yet she has no problem doing things to other people. Sharing private DM’s on stream, threatening sponsors, rinsing subs with overpriced cookies.
if people want to give their money to anyone fine let them its their problem, it would be good to tell them that its wrong and how will they manage afterwards but its wrong when you try to demonize or create a villian out of the person who received the money, in the end Poki or any other stream can't force you to subscribe or donate
They can't but they should make it clear there is no chance, not even 0.0000000001% chance that they will ever get together with the donators. Because that is the sole reason some guys will donate the last pennies from their bank account to a streamer. Just because they think they will be notified, maybe even today.
@@Ghostiificationwhy would they have to make that clear. It should be clear to any rational human being.
It's because she doesn't at all tell then to stop she just supports their self destructive behavior because it benefits her its like bitcoin scammed getting people to buy their coin knowing Damm well they won't gain shit and the scammer has everything to gain. But then again if I was her I wouldn't say shit other if simps donating me 1k everyday to exist n play games like I already do
@alexmason5521 these guys aren't "rational human beings" obviously dumbass they need mental help and she is not helping them get that help she's just reinforcing self destructive behaviors.
Pretty privilege is a thing but not the ONLY thing required for success. It might give you a slight advantage but if you are lazy and don't put in the work nothing will happen.
"slight advantage" is underplaying it but ofc u have to put the work in. Can you name a single overweight popular female streamer? It's much more than slight.
@@OOKIEDOKIE almost entirely in her case since many clips of her reacting are her just sitting there eating
Her content is garbage .. her brand is solely her appearance
Great content like always Patrick. Love your work keep it up buddy
“These men are often reffered to as simps” 😂 that made me burst out laughing