4 year user here - funnily I seem to be the only person who uses the pulls instead of the downward presses for run & jump - aka my primary keys. I came from controller only for 35 years NEVER played with m&k - mouse was a given to be easy seeing how I use a mouse for work every day... the Azeron was an immediate hit, it felt totally natural; I'm on my second Cyborg now (I felt I could make some adjustments & wanted full custom colours) & have the Cyro mouse on the way. Something else I have done differently. I set it up for the main game I was playing when I got it on reWASD (I really prefer this to Azeron stock software), I went through it thinking what would feel the most natural for every action & then I added a random unused keybind to every single key on the Azeron - instead of having multiple set ups on the Azeron/reWASD (although I do have a separate bind for strategy type games & a couple for more unique games) - Id just rebind the keys within the game - this is obviously super easy as you already know what Azeron buttons you use for what actions. I could never go back to using a controller for most games & the idea of using a keyboard to game seems ridiculous to me. I tried the Razer Tartarus Pro before the Azeron and I absolutely hated it. The thumbstick alone is absolutely abysmal.
First time watcher here. Your use of language is a talent and your approach to content makes for a pleasant experience. When I hit the back button, I expected to see a half million subscribers. Great stuff, Void.
Ive been playing with the Azeron cyborg for about 6 months and I also dont see myself going back to a conventional keyboard either. I did replace the thumbstick to one of the elite thumbsticks that they sell if you ask their customer service, I would only recommend it to someone if they needed to replace a thumbstick with stickdrift though, and the replacement isn't the easiest but its also not entirely hard as long as you take pictures of your wires and follow the video on how to do it its pretty straight-forward
Fantsatic video mate, I just picked up the Azeron and am trying to learn it (it's hard compared to the muscle memory mastery I already have on controller + MKB) and I am trying to figure if it is worth it long term to stay on Azeron for competitive PvP FPS games. going to watch the whole thing again since you made a lot of good points I need to revisit!
If you have the knowledge and equipment for it I don't see why not, I'm sure there's a video on it already, I'm sure Azeron is probably working on adding hall effects to their keypads already, hopefully they come up with them soon
I'm a console gamer historically but do play PC games. I struggle with the keyboard. I either press the wrong keys all the time or I have to look down at my keyboard while playing which gets me killed a lot. The game I play on PC the most right now is WoW. I just bought the Tartarus and so far I don't like it. I have small hands and I can't even reach all the keys without moving my hand. And like the keyboard I'm still looking down at the device to find the keys. I'm probably going to return the Tartarus and go back to the keyboard and mouse. Now I'm considering the Azeron. IT feels like there might be a pretty big learning curve but its also seems like once you have the buttons memorized it will be easier to play a game like WoW on. Anyone have any thoughts on what I should do?
I will get one if they release a version with a magnetic joystick, but it’s just too much for something that gets stick drift. Also the razor you can use the dpad as a joystick
@@dl3472 it’s a 8 way dpad with a thumb stick, so it’s similar and works the same unless you do dual input for the AZERON. Thumb stick is probability just better though, it’s just a less expensive and less accessible / comfortable alternative in my eyes.
You can adjust the keypad to make it longer/shorter and narrow/wide and adjust the thumbstick to a certain extent but I find pressing it down to click down the thumbstick takes a bit more force than I would like and makes the plastic bend so I don't find pressing it down viable. you can bind the keys to emulate controller buttons so you can easily map any button specifically to L3 or R3 if you wanted to and you can also make buttons do other things on long presses and double presses which can be really useful
@@yarbles66 A single actual button/input key for my thumb, and not a thumbstick I don't need that acts as a worse button and has a bunch of additional mappable directions that I don't want.
@@iam18ish OK. You definitely can't, but there are so many buttons on there (and essentially 5 more if you go for the optional 5 way switch next to the joystick)... I still have no idea what you're actually trying to achieve - I asked as I could suggest a work around. I've used these daily for gaming and even a bit of music production for years.
@@yarbles66 Frame-perfect inputs. A thumbstick only hinders this, and I'm not interested in a work-around. Tartarus comes close because it has a thumb key, but lacks the ergonomics and doesn't have nearly enough keys *specifically for my four other fingers*. If I were to make this purchase, I would 100% intend to use WASD movement and remove the thumbstick. Since I don't have any of the skills or equipment to modify the controller myself, it is an automatic no for me sadly...
I have a Cyro on the way & as a seasoned (4y) Cyborg user, that's absolutely not what I got the Cyro for haha... I think it would be more problematic than helpful. I really cannot see a situation where it would be useful... but I'd certainly give it a try! I purely got it for late night gaming in bed when the missus is asleep... she likes to hug me when she sleeps and that can't happen with a Cyborg in the way haha... she almost rolled on it a few times as well when I used to try and play with it in bed!
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4 year user here - funnily I seem to be the only person who uses the pulls instead of the downward presses for run & jump - aka my primary keys.
I came from controller only for 35 years NEVER played with m&k - mouse was a given to be easy seeing how I use a mouse for work every day... the Azeron was an immediate hit, it felt totally natural; I'm on my second Cyborg now (I felt I could make some adjustments & wanted full custom colours) & have the Cyro mouse on the way.
Something else I have done differently. I set it up for the main game I was playing when I got it on reWASD (I really prefer this to Azeron stock software), I went through it thinking what would feel the most natural for every action & then I added a random unused keybind to every single key on the Azeron - instead of having multiple set ups on the Azeron/reWASD (although I do have a separate bind for strategy type games & a couple for more unique games) - Id just rebind the keys within the game - this is obviously super easy as you already know what Azeron buttons you use for what actions.
I could never go back to using a controller for most games & the idea of using a keyboard to game seems ridiculous to me.
I tried the Razer Tartarus Pro before the Azeron and I absolutely hated it. The thumbstick alone is absolutely abysmal.
Hey Void, just wanted to say thank you for your input and continued videos. I enjoy you sharing your personal experience and opinion on the matter.
First time watcher here. Your use of language is a talent and your approach to content makes for a pleasant experience. When I hit the back button, I expected to see a half million subscribers. Great stuff, Void.
thanks for this video. I will definitely be trying your layout once my Azeron arrives
Ive been playing with the Azeron cyborg for about 6 months and I also dont see myself going back to a conventional keyboard either. I did replace the thumbstick to one of the elite thumbsticks that they sell if you ask their customer service, I would only recommend it to someone if they needed to replace a thumbstick with stickdrift though, and the replacement isn't the easiest but its also not entirely hard as long as you take pictures of your wires and follow the video on how to do it its pretty straight-forward
Great video
Fantsatic video mate, I just picked up the Azeron and am trying to learn it (it's hard compared to the muscle memory mastery I already have on controller + MKB) and I am trying to figure if it is worth it long term to stay on Azeron for competitive PvP FPS games.
going to watch the whole thing again since you made a lot of good points I need to revisit!
How do i use azeron in the game, just had download the software but i cant use it in games.
How is it for fps games?
I wonder if modding in a Hall effect stick would be worth it?
If you have the knowledge and equipment for it I don't see why not, I'm sure there's a video on it already, I'm sure Azeron is probably working on adding hall effects to their keypads already, hopefully they come up with them soon
I'm a console gamer historically but do play PC games. I struggle with the keyboard. I either press the wrong keys all the time or I have to look down at my keyboard while playing which gets me killed a lot. The game I play on PC the most right now is WoW.
I just bought the Tartarus and so far I don't like it. I have small hands and I can't even reach all the keys without moving my hand. And like the keyboard I'm still looking down at the device to find the keys.
I'm probably going to return the Tartarus and go back to the keyboard and mouse. Now I'm considering the Azeron.
IT feels like there might be a pretty big learning curve but its also seems like once you have the buttons memorized it will be easier to play a game like WoW on.
Anyone have any thoughts on what I should do?
Titanfall 2 based
bro show handcam do u play other games like cod and fortnite?
I will get one if they release a version with a magnetic joystick, but it’s just too much for something that gets stick drift. Also the razor you can use the dpad as a joystick
Dpad is nothing like a joystick
@@dl3472 it’s a 8 way dpad with a thumb stick, so it’s similar and works the same unless you do dual input for the AZERON. Thumb stick is probability just better though, it’s just a less expensive and less accessible / comfortable alternative in my eyes.
@@nekrowshade5234 well in theory yes but I own both of them and I can tell you that the thumbstick is much better
So where are his keybind settings?
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Is it possible to remove the thumbstick and turn the thumb key 180 degrees to use as a press button?
You can adjust the keypad to make it longer/shorter and narrow/wide and adjust the thumbstick to a certain extent but I find pressing it down to click down the thumbstick takes a bit more force than I would like and makes the plastic bend so I don't find pressing it down viable. you can bind the keys to emulate controller buttons so you can easily map any button specifically to L3 or R3 if you wanted to and you can also make buttons do other things on long presses and double presses which can be really useful
@@iam18ish what are you potentially trying to achieve with this?
@@yarbles66 A single actual button/input key for my thumb, and not a thumbstick I don't need that acts as a worse button and has a bunch of additional mappable directions that I don't want.
@@iam18ish OK. You definitely can't, but there are so many buttons on there (and essentially 5 more if you go for the optional 5 way switch next to the joystick)... I still have no idea what you're actually trying to achieve - I asked as I could suggest a work around. I've used these daily for gaming and even a bit of music production for years.
@@yarbles66 Frame-perfect inputs. A thumbstick only hinders this, and I'm not interested in a work-around. Tartarus comes close because it has a thumb key, but lacks the ergonomics and doesn't have nearly enough keys *specifically for my four other fingers*.
If I were to make this purchase, I would 100% intend to use WASD movement and remove the thumbstick. Since I don't have any of the skills or equipment to modify the controller myself, it is an automatic no for me sadly...
I mean you could have a Layer that has all your Macro BM lol... you could easily macro "GGEZ" lol
Have you considered the Cyborg + the Cyro? I wonder if that will be brain overload. xD
I have a Cyro on the way & as a seasoned (4y) Cyborg user, that's absolutely not what I got the Cyro for haha... I think it would be more problematic than helpful. I really cannot see a situation where it would be useful... but I'd certainly give it a try!
I purely got it for late night gaming in bed when the missus is asleep... she likes to hug me when she sleeps and that can't happen with a Cyborg in the way haha... she almost rolled on it a few times as well when I used to try and play with it in bed!