Meet our buddy Daniel as he explains the essential details of the Azeron thumbstick: 0:00 Daniel fails 0:07 intro 0:38 how the software works 0:59 calibrate your thumbstick 1:35 offset adjustment 2:10 thumbstick modes (keyboard, joystick) 2:15 WASD on the thumbstick 2:28 360 movement with the thumbstick 2:47 thumbstick movement advantages 4:03 analog joystick mode 4:14 Xbox 360 and keyboard mode 4:45 why you need a restrictor ring 5:13 adjusting deadzones 6:32 adjusting sensitivity 6:49 tweaking the angle 7:12 mapping a second thumbstick 7:36 Elite V2 thumbstick 7:59 outro
Ad the part where the V2 thumbstick is explained in this video he says no restrictor ring can be used. But i just buyed a Azeron Compact with also the V2 Elite Thumbstick, and there is a restrictor ring also delivered. It also in the description of this V2 thumbstick. So this can be used?
@@govertkreuk4906 This is an older video, at the time we didn't have the v2 restrictors available. The restrictor ring that came with your unit is compatible with the thumbstick type installed.
Thank you. I was not going to buy an Azeron because some reviews said the thumbstick was only WASD. This guide really helped dispel that misconception.
I want know if this thumbs tick isn't wasd does it cause jittering when trying aim with mouse like the razer Taturus stick when I set that too anlogue.
I also use the Azeron for Blender (3D Model Design) and Unity (Game Development). Thumbstick can be toggled by pressing it down - it activates camera panning in the app and then swaps the keys properly. When I'm not camera panning, it copies the combination keys of SHIFT, CONTROL, and ALT -- left is Shift, up is Control, right is ALT, and I can easily do Shift + Control by aiming up left, Control + Alt by aiming Up Right, and then I hard coded in Shift + Alt directly down.
My tip for the thumbstick, map another key as well on the Cyborg to W, and use that to move forward as well. It makes it far more responsive as generally speaking forward is used often in games, while using left, right and back on the thumbstick. I have tons of hours with the Cyborg and that has made things so much more comfortable and responsive.
I think a software setting (that I'm surprised doesn't exist) which would make strafe-alternating speed a non-issue is letting people configure how much throw is needed to register a WASD keypress in that mode. These videos have made it seem more likely that the stick will pick up unwanted movement you'll want to eliminate, but for "intense" PC like games (Counter Strike, Valorant, maybe even CoD) high strung gamers are immensely tight on all controls they are on top of so they are willing, and able for their thumbs to be in full control of all times. The fact that gamers are willing and wanting to make stupidly low travel distance, and low resistance keypresses register for "speed" on some keyboards, surely they can handle stupidly low deflection angles on a thumbstick as alternating strafe, as least for some games. Anyways, just a suggestion.
I was reflecting on the function of the stick, and there is a difference in strafing speed when the stick moves down versus up. While this is not critical for regular users, improving the mechanism would be necessary to fully replace WASD. I may have overlooked something, and perhaps you have already considered this. Thank you for your attention.
Considering the mechanism and the way the thumb works, the difference in strafing speed would be around 15%. Again, this is not critical for regular users; however, if I were a pro player, I would look at this aspect more critically
@@FrederikoAlvarez well this is kind of limited to the game or software having controller support, in which case they should handle analog joystick controls. A range of inputs in 2 axes. If the game or software is built purely for WASD, it would only accept binary inputs for those keys, either pressed or non pressed. 0% or 100%
I've been Gaming on a old Logitech G13 since 2010 waiting for it to die to make the leap to a Az Cyborg ... really sorry I waited so long this thing is Awesome
@AzeronEU turn the character left or right or rotate the screen left or right instead of using the mouse. Wondering if someone with one arm can use this to play games
@@ReportTheHackers Cyborg ll offers an option to convert joystick to mouse cursor, so you can use joystick instead of a mouse. Azeron Cyro offers a mouse function and the joystick with buttons, suits people who can use one arm only.
New Azeron user here with a question... I have the Elite thumbstick and find that it sometimes gets stuck in a moving position (IE: off center). I don't mean stick drift, but physically stuck in a position that I moved it to, instead of re-centering on its own. Any advice on this? PS: Loving the Cyborg Compact so far.
I would buy the regular stick from them.. I didn't like the elite stick.. regular stick they give u a restricted ring that helps with faster side to side 🙏🙏
Damn, I may messed up my order thru Amazon as purchased a black Azeron Cyborg a few days ago. I thought $219 version was the compact, but im unsure. If it isn't, am I still good to go or would anyone recommend a return?
I really love the idea of playing 3rd shooter (or mostly shooting at least) games like Horizon Zero Dawn, Last of Us, Gears of War, GTA, Resident Evil 4 Remake and many others with the precision of a mouse and the movement of a joystick... but I still don't know if there's a way around for every of these games to work with both inputs because the list he shared in the video is incomplete (just goes from A to K). Have anyone experimented enough with this to give me a feedback? Is there a way for any game to make the joystick have 360 movement while also using the mouse, or some games is just impossible and you have to map the joystick to wasd?
One option would be that all the binds on the keypad are set as controller binds not wasd - thats the easy part. Need to think of a way that when ever you ussing mouse it thinks thats a controler aswell.
Not with native Azeron software. You`ll need Joytokey or Rewasd. What would you like the function for ? We got a device that has the mouse function as well, it`s called Cyro.
I am using the cyborg for designing in AutoCAD. I am looking at buying the cyro but it would really be useful to incorporate this ability in your software so it is built in. Even on the cyro. I use a trackball mouse currently and prefer my hand to be still for mouse cursor control. The Azeron peripherals are useful for engineering applications. I have yet to see more users out there in Engineering discover this. Now if you came up with a cyro that has a trackball in place of the thumbstick or even a cyborg I think that would be awesome. If you'd like more feedback on this please let me know. @@azeronltd3313
I recently bought an Azeron compact and the restrictor ring wasn’t in the box. How can I get one? If not available through website is there an alternative you’d recommend?
If you are used to a controller movement, then there you have already good starting point. Since you aren't used to keyboard either, it should be faster to build the muscle memory on the device
Is there any way to set the thumbstick to where it is W,A,S or D only one at a time? Not W+A or W+D simultaneously when you move it? Just got my cyborg compact today and loving it so far but need the thumbstick to only hit one letter at a time in my favorite game.
@@AzeronEU Thanks for the info and response. You should look at this as an update in your software. I don't want to have to add more apps and downloads and programming just to play a game on a piece of equipment (not a cheap piece either) that is totally capable of doing the job itself. Especially when it's advertised as being able to be completely custom mapped but can't do what the arrow keys on my keyboard do at this time. I am really enjoying using the cyborg for everything else but renders it terrible at the game I actually purchased it for.
little update for yall: fortnite while still supporting dual input, will now drop frames to 40~ when doing so! so DONT select the 360 joystick option, as of writing this there are serious frame drops that started with chapter 5 s4!
on Fortnite I have to issue for 360 controller and other analog options where it pops up the controller binds every time I move and when I'm building it gets messed up, any tips on how to fix this?
Change the thumbstick setting to keyboard mode, since the Lock input setting in Fortnite is currently broken. They are aware of the issue, but haven't announced when fix is coming
I think it would be better if there were the option to have a setup for the thumb like the one for the index finger: press a button in for W, A to the left, D to the right, S behind the thumb (like curl the thumb in for S).
Says I can use Xbox 360 mode on BG3, but I can only do that if I switch to controller mode, at which point keybinds don't trigger. Anyone know how to get this to work?
@@NickBinetti Most people use it in keyboard mode, but it seems that BG3 accepts the simultaneous input. Set the stick to xbo360 mode and map xinput to buttons. Mouse would be used for camera and zoom in and out.
I use Steam Controller to play Fortnite atm until my Azeron arrives and the dual input support isn't the greatest unlike other games. I could be wrong on that as I don't play it often
It has been 3 weeks since the comment. How`s the feeling with Azeron and how would you compare playing Fortnite with Steam controller vs Azeron keypad? Dual input support seems to be broken at the moment, but still playable if no fps drops occur.
Yeah. Both Cyborgs have perform same function, you just got to decide how do you like pressing the top keys. That`s the difference between them. If you plan to travel around with the unit, would recommend Cyborg Compact.
I have the compact and play apex. It takes a little getting used to, but it does work with the game well. Consider your gaming style when mapping your buttons.
@@valentineguerrero3059thank you. how has it been for you so far? i still haven’t gotten it lol but i’ll order it tonight. i’m thinking about the magnetic stand but i feel like there’s no use for it
Ive used a nostromo for years, and this looks cool but if you think im paying 200$ for a part that cost 12$ to produce I think ill stick with the 80$ for a Razor product. lol 200$ is crazy.
12 dollah to make ? You must be out of your mind. The parts alone are much more, let alone the development and running a business. They also sell refurbished for under 200.
@@N1h1L3 If you think those plastic parts are more than 12$ in cost youre an idiot, now I was being a bit dramatic because of research and development costs but you are out of your mind if you think it cost anywhere near 200$ to produce this product. Usually the mark up on electronics is about 150% which means it cost about 50$ all in to "create" this product.
Meet our buddy Daniel as he explains the essential details of the Azeron thumbstick:
0:00 Daniel fails
0:07 intro
0:38 how the software works
0:59 calibrate your thumbstick
1:35 offset adjustment
2:10 thumbstick modes (keyboard, joystick)
2:15 WASD on the thumbstick
2:28 360 movement with the thumbstick
2:47 thumbstick movement advantages
4:03 analog joystick mode
4:14 Xbox 360 and keyboard mode
4:45 why you need a restrictor ring
5:13 adjusting deadzones
6:32 adjusting sensitivity
6:49 tweaking the angle
7:12 mapping a second thumbstick
7:36 Elite V2 thumbstick
7:59 outro
Ad the part where the V2 thumbstick is explained in this video he says no restrictor ring can be used. But i just buyed a Azeron Compact with also the V2 Elite Thumbstick, and there is a restrictor ring also delivered. It also in the description of this V2 thumbstick. So this can be used?
@@govertkreuk4906 This is an older video, at the time we didn't have the v2 restrictors available. The restrictor ring that came with your unit is compatible with the thumbstick type installed.
Thank you. I was not going to buy an Azeron because some reviews said the thumbstick was only WASD. This guide really helped dispel that misconception.
Same!
I want know if this thumbs tick isn't wasd does it cause jittering when trying aim with mouse like the razer Taturus stick when I set that too anlogue.
@@Manc82 The original did not for me. Also, since you can adjust the deadzone, if you did have some unintended movement, you can fix it.
'give that like button a gentle click"
I've been waiting so long for the "SMASH THAT LIKE BUTTON" to die.
I also use the Azeron for Blender (3D Model Design) and Unity (Game Development).
Thumbstick can be toggled by pressing it down - it activates camera panning in the app and then swaps the keys properly.
When I'm not camera panning, it copies the combination keys of SHIFT, CONTROL, and ALT -- left is Shift, up is Control, right is ALT, and I can easily do Shift + Control by aiming up left, Control + Alt by aiming Up Right, and then I hard coded in Shift + Alt directly down.
Been using mine for a couple weeks now. Wish I'd seen this video sooner. :D
My tip for the thumbstick, map another key as well on the Cyborg to W, and use that to move forward as well. It makes it far more responsive as generally speaking forward is used often in games, while using left, right and back on the thumbstick.
I have tons of hours with the Cyborg and that has made things so much more comfortable and responsive.
I think a software setting (that I'm surprised doesn't exist) which would make strafe-alternating speed a non-issue is letting people configure how much throw is needed to register a WASD keypress in that mode. These videos have made it seem more likely that the stick will pick up unwanted movement you'll want to eliminate, but for "intense" PC like games (Counter Strike, Valorant, maybe even CoD) high strung gamers are immensely tight on all controls they are on top of so they are willing, and able for their thumbs to be in full control of all times. The fact that gamers are willing and wanting to make stupidly low travel distance, and low resistance keypresses register for "speed" on some keyboards, surely they can handle stupidly low deflection angles on a thumbstick as alternating strafe, as least for some games.
Anyways, just a suggestion.
I was reflecting on the function of the stick, and there is a difference in strafing speed when the stick moves down versus up. While this is not critical for regular users, improving the mechanism would be necessary to fully replace WASD. I may have overlooked something, and perhaps you have already considered this. Thank you for your attention.
Considering the mechanism and the way the thumb works, the difference in strafing speed would be around 15%. Again, this is not critical for regular users; however, if I were a pro player, I would look at this aspect more critically
@@FrederikoAlvarez well this is kind of limited to the game or software having controller support, in which case they should handle analog joystick controls. A range of inputs in 2 axes.
If the game or software is built purely for WASD, it would only accept binary inputs for those keys, either pressed or non pressed. 0% or 100%
Just got mine today this thing is dope i got some tweaking to the towers for better compatibility!!
thx its so much more fun now play bo6 this movement with joystick and still have aim with mouse i like it so much thx bro
my brother has one arm so he is not able to you a mouse. Would the analog stick be able to bind to him looking around in game?
They have a one hand keyboard that's also a mouse as well
@@bigponitus778yep
Is there anyway to map the stick to a Right Stick function for aiming instead of movement?
Yes, you can
Can you show some productivity stuff?
Awesome. And I was happy with just WASD on the thumbstick. Now what was he saying about BG3... and extra options.... back to watch again I guess.
I've been Gaming on a old Logitech G13 since 2010 waiting for it to die to make the leap to a Az Cyborg ... really sorry I waited so long this thing is Awesome
We forgive you !
any way to add rotate left and right to the thumbstick as well for MMOs?
What do you mean with rotate left and right ?
@AzeronEU turn the character left or right or rotate the screen left or right instead of using the mouse. Wondering if someone with one arm can use this to play games
@@ReportTheHackers Cyborg ll offers an option to convert joystick to mouse cursor, so you can use joystick instead of a mouse.
Azeron Cyro offers a mouse function and the joystick with buttons, suits people who can use one arm only.
New Azeron user here with a question... I have the Elite thumbstick and find that it sometimes gets stuck in a moving position (IE: off center). I don't mean stick drift, but physically stuck in a position that I moved it to, instead of re-centering on its own. Any advice on this? PS: Loving the Cyborg Compact so far.
The basecap seems to be unscrewed. Turn the cap clockwise till to fasten it and then give it another nudge to lock it, so it doesn't become undone.
I would buy the regular stick from them.. I didn't like the elite stick.. regular stick they give u a restricted ring that helps with faster side to side 🙏🙏
100% Azeron. I got 3 of them
Be very gentle the materials they use are cheap AF
are there larger restrictor rings we can buy for even faster movement?
We don't offer different sizes on restrictor rings.
Adjusting the sensitivity?
When will there be a pro. Ersion of the cyborg?? Omron optical switches and analog joystick or hall effect????🙏🙏🙏
Hall effect joysticks are currently being tested
Damn, I may messed up my order thru Amazon as purchased a black Azeron Cyborg a few days ago. I thought $219 version was the compact, but im unsure. If it isn't, am I still good to go or would anyone recommend a return?
Question: since most third party software are banned by Activition, is it still possible to play with full analogue 360 degree input in call of duty?
Yes you can.
I really love the idea of playing 3rd shooter (or mostly shooting at least) games like Horizon Zero Dawn, Last of Us, Gears of War, GTA, Resident Evil 4 Remake and many others with the precision of a mouse and the movement of a joystick... but I still don't know if there's a way around for every of these games to work with both inputs because the list he shared in the video is incomplete (just goes from A to K). Have anyone experimented enough with this to give me a feedback? Is there a way for any game to make the joystick have 360 movement while also using the mouse, or some games is just impossible and you have to map the joystick to wasd?
One option would be that all the binds on the keypad are set as controller binds not wasd - thats the easy part. Need to think of a way that when ever you ussing mouse it thinks thats a controler aswell.
can I program the thumbstick to emulate the mouse movement ? another words be able to control the cursor as your mouse typically does?
Not with native Azeron software. You`ll need Joytokey or Rewasd.
What would you like the function for ? We got a device that has the mouse function as well, it`s called Cyro.
I am using the cyborg for designing in AutoCAD. I am looking at buying the cyro but it would really be useful to incorporate this ability in your software so it is built in. Even on the cyro. I use a trackball mouse currently and prefer my hand to be still for mouse cursor control. The Azeron peripherals are useful for engineering applications. I have yet to see more users out there in Engineering discover this. Now if you came up with a cyro that has a trackball in place of the thumbstick or even a cyborg I think that would be awesome. If you'd like more feedback on this please let me know. @@azeronltd3313
The restriction ring works with the elite thumb-stick.
I recently bought an Azeron compact and the restrictor ring wasn’t in the box. How can I get one? If not available through website is there an alternative you’d recommend?
Classic or Classic Compact models come without the restrictor ring.
The restrictor rings can be purchased from our service parts section in store.
@@AzeronEUJust ordered along with the stand as well. Thank you for making such an awesome device.
i want to get into pc gaming but going from controller to keybored just doesn't work for me. would this be the answer im looking for ?
If you are used to a controller movement, then there you have already good starting point.
Since you aren't used to keyboard either, it should be faster to build the muscle memory on the device
Is there any way to set the thumbstick to where it is W,A,S or D only one at a time? Not W+A or W+D simultaneously when you move it? Just got my cyborg compact today and loving it so far but need the thumbstick to only hit one letter at a time in my favorite game.
It can currently be done on Cyro by enabling 8 directions.
On keypads it`s not possible with the native software. You`d need Rewasd for that.
@@AzeronEU Thanks for the info and response. You should look at this as an update in your software. I don't want to have to add more apps and downloads and programming just to play a game on a piece of equipment (not a cheap piece either) that is totally capable of doing the job itself. Especially when it's advertised as being able to be completely custom mapped but can't do what the arrow keys on my keyboard do at this time. I am really enjoying using the cyborg for everything else but renders it terrible at the game I actually purchased it for.
little update for yall: fortnite while still supporting dual input, will now drop frames to 40~ when doing so! so DONT select the 360 joystick option, as of writing this there are serious frame drops that started with chapter 5 s4!
Lock input method setting is currently broken.
They are aware of the issue, waiting on the fix.
Currently the stick has to be set to keyboard mode
on Fortnite I have to issue for 360 controller and other analog options where it pops up the controller binds every time I move and when I'm building it gets messed up, any tips on how to fix this?
Change the thumbstick setting to keyboard mode, since the Lock input setting in Fortnite is currently broken. They are aware of the issue, but haven't announced when fix is coming
I play Hell Let Loose with the Azeron Cyborg. This gave and still gives me a big boost. I ❤ the Azeron Cyborg. TRY IT OUT🎉
I think it would be better if there were the option to have a setup for the thumb like the one for the index finger: press a button in for W, A to the left, D to the right, S behind the thumb (like curl the thumb in for S).
Why wouldn't that be an option? Each button is fully customizable.
Could you play survival open world games like SCUM with the Azeron ?
Sure you can. Will work on any game that supports keyboard input
Says I can use Xbox 360 mode on BG3, but I can only do that if I switch to controller mode, at which point keybinds don't trigger. Anyone know how to get this to work?
@@NickBinetti Most people use it in keyboard mode, but it seems that BG3 accepts the simultaneous input.
Set the stick to xbo360 mode and map xinput to buttons.
Mouse would be used for camera and zoom in and out.
Thumbster xD
Best opening to a video EVER
I use Steam Controller to play Fortnite atm until my Azeron arrives and the dual input support isn't the greatest unlike other games. I could be wrong on that as I don't play it often
It has been 3 weeks since the comment.
How`s the feeling with Azeron and how would you compare playing Fortnite with Steam controller vs Azeron keypad?
Dual input support seems to be broken at the moment, but still playable if no fps drops occur.
Bring that to BRASILLLLL
Guys do you think the cyborg compact will be fine for apex legends?
Yeah.
Both Cyborgs have perform same function, you just got to decide how do you like pressing the top keys. That`s the difference between them.
If you plan to travel around with the unit, would recommend Cyborg Compact.
I have the compact and play apex. It takes a little getting used to, but it does work with the game well. Consider your gaming style when mapping your buttons.
@@valentineguerrero3059thank you. how has it been for you so far? i still haven’t gotten it lol but i’ll order it tonight. i’m thinking about the magnetic stand but i feel like there’s no use for it
I prefer using REWASD software
I preffer windows 10
Is the right hand😂💔💔
Except fortnite input lock doesnt work so have to use keyboard joystick which sucks
BootyClap 🤣🤣
I use Telekinesis to control my character.
Thought you were funny huh
Ive used a nostromo for years, and this looks cool but if you think im paying 200$ for a part that cost 12$ to produce I think ill stick with the 80$ for a Razor product. lol 200$ is crazy.
12 dollah to make ? You must be out of your mind. The parts alone are much more, let alone the development and running a business.
They also sell refurbished for under 200.
@@N1h1L3 If you think those plastic parts are more than 12$ in cost youre an idiot, now I was being a bit dramatic because of research and development costs but you are out of your mind if you think it cost anywhere near 200$ to produce this product. Usually the mark up on electronics is about 150% which means it cost about 50$ all in to "create" this product.
I'd probably buy one if it wasn't 3d printed🤨
3d printed just makes it easy to replace broken pieces