Why Obi-Wan Changed His Lightsaber Form After Losing to Darth Maul
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Obi-Wan hybridized Forms III and IV to compensate for their respective shortcomings: Soresu’s lack of offensive capabilities and Ataru’s lack of defensive ability and limited sustainability
This isn't really true. Kenobi specialised in form three, while putting in some moves of Si-cho and Ataru to offset his lacking offensive capbalities. He never hybridised.
I love how Darth Maul was better at teaching people how to defeat Sith than The Jedi were. Lol
he was never a true sith. just a dark jedi. there is kinda a difference. the sith have a whole code and power struictures, while dark jedi gave in to anger but only to access their own goals often still rooted in some empathetic thing like a loved one or some other attachment. a sith assassin is a title hed prolly spit at you for reminding him of.
@@36inc Maul was a fully anointed Sith Lord though being as he was granted the title of Darth. And after leaving Palpatine he'd have been a Dark Acolyte since he was never associated with The Jedi Order.
@@kaimagnus5760 There is one fault here, there is one thing Maul had not done that is required to truly become Sith, similar to how a true Jedi Knight is made. For a Jedi Knight, they must be willing to sacrifice that which they hold dearest. To give up that which they love to serve the Force. Those are the true Jedi Knights, and most in the prequel trilogy did not have that actual status because they did not allow themselves to acquire the attachment to actually feel that. They were knighted by the council, but not anointed as a Knight in and by The Force. The best example of this happening I can give is from Star Wars Rebels, in which he has a vision in The Force and is Knighted by it, having previously being willing to give up everything else to follow the will of The Force itself. He was rewarded not only with Knighthood, but left to look after and protect that which he was willing to let go of. Prequel era Jedi were basically held back by not being allowed to form attachments. It means nothing to give up something you don't have and never get to have.
Likewise, to become a Sith Lord, you must *murder* that which you love. Not sacrifice or give it up, but to purposefully kill it and bring it to an end. Maul knew only rage because what he loved as a boy was taken from him, and Palpatine did not allow him to love anything. Palpatine himself murdered that which he loved, his entire family. Similarly, Anakin did so to the Jedi Order and Padmé. The knowledge after the fact that you have ended that which you cared for so much feeds the dark side, the guilt and self-hate drowns you in it. This is what Yoda means when he says (paraphrased) "That once you start down this dark path, it will forever control your future."
It was also Obi-wan who used the same flip move-that Anakin later used on Mustafar-against Darth Maul.
Play defense,conserve energy,wait for an opening to strike
Seems like a good strategy
The fun part is that obi changed back to form 4 to defeat maul in rebels. Really interesting that maul caused him to switch to form 3 yet obi went back to form 4 to ultimately kill him
Obi Wan was playing chess where Maul was playing checkers. And I can’t front in spite of how brief it was that was one of the best in-cannon duels ever!
They really power scaled old Ben well in the Rebels show. It’s a reason why as a Jedi MASTER he survived all his encounters with the empire and the dangers of tatooine/the underworld. Powerful as Maul was he ran into a brick wall of Force Mastery in obi wan, not to mention he already Encountered maul
The Form IV pose was just a ruse to fool Maul as was stated by Sam Witwer.
He didn't lose. He cut the dude in half
obi-wan would be the first to tell you that was more lucky than skillful. maul doesnt get a big head and play with his food obi doesnt walk away from it
saber to saber, maul won. He even disarmed obi wan of his light saber. He also seems to have won in terms of force powers...it was only in the end when Maul started to play around and wanted to humiliate obi wan did he let his guard down and got chopped in half
When obi-wan was disarmed he lost
Was looking for this comment. Got the notification for this video and thought “when the hell did obiwan ever lose to maul?”
Your videos are the best about Star Wars I love them.
great video!
Love your videos
Keep up the great work
I don’t want to get hurt, so I’ll max out my Defence 😁
If Darth Maul could survive having his spine cut in half, Qui-Gon should not have died from a simple lightsaber jab. Either that, or Qui-Gon was not as strong with the Force as some would have us believe.
It's darkside survivability, the same reason that Anakin didn't die on Mustafar. Also Mauls a Zabrak, that probably counts for something.
Yeah, Maul was sustained by his anger and hate. Qui-gon was at peace
He had a lightsaber slowly pulled out of him after being stabbed, not the same as a slash that cauterized Maul wounds and allowed him to draw into the darkness.
Remember, this was back before we had multiple people survive a straight thrust kill like is more common nowadays. combined with maul's raw dark side power sustaining his body and his zabrak heritage, the two 'deaths' are as different as, well, light and darkness. Qui-gon's peace. acceptance, and dedicatio. to the will of the light side and his whole hearted embrace of it meant he was willing to die if the Force told him so, and in his mind, losing was the Force's way of saying it was time in hia mind.
The dark side if the force is a pathway to many abilities, some consider to be unnatural
This is an interesting point I'd never thought of
So, a term I’ve been hearing lately, particularly on this channel, has me scratching my head: “force reserves.”
In video games, I was fine with the idea of a Force meter for the purpose of balancing Force powers. And even in the movies and shows, I understand that a Jedi shouldn’t just be able to perform Force feats 24/7.
But I find it weird to suggest that they have this “reserve” of Force energy. Wouldn’t it just be their own physical stamina/strength/energy? Like how concentrating intensely on a final exam is exhausting, or how a fierce workout at the gym drains your energy.
i think it's more so the same reason why yoda and palatine can move like they do they both might have low physical stamina but both are strong in the force that they can use it instead of their actual energy or just enhance it but because one can still tire the force can't keep someone going for ever
The one possible explanation is that force usage is tied with sheer will and imagination and intention.
So as long as a person can "imagine" pulling their strength from the force, provided they have good enough connection to it - they get all these abilities, but mental resources can also tire out and then you pull less and less aid from the force untill you are exhausted completely.
Just a theory.
I love watching your videos talking about obi wan Kenobi
"Look what has become of you. A rat in the desert"
There's a why it's known as the "duel of the fates" . . This is one of those reasons!!
When fighting for your life, there are no cheap tricks!
Is he reuploading content? His spoken about this before.
From Offense to defense
Obi Wan did not lose the fist fight against Maul, he cut him in half, the fight is not done until it is done, he was outskilled in every aspet of that fight, and Maul let his guard down and Kenobi used that to win that fight.
It makes sense ObiWan would change his form to something more suitable to deal with a sith
This was great choice. Obi-Wan choose Soresu and became Master of Defence. Then perfect attack! I haven't seen re-release of Phantom Menace. May the Force be with you too. See you in the next holocron.
He switched to a more defensive stance out of fear of losing another ally in battle.
The end. This has been covered so many times already.
Qui Gon should have ran toward Obi wan when the blaster shield was deactivated
Qui Gon was following the will of the force, unfortunately the force was telling him to die for the story to progress.
I told y’all Obi Wan learn a lot of stuff from Darth Maul
Losing to Maul? Ig cutting someone in half is an L 🤔
Makes you think what may have happened if he didn't?
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Obi-Wan was no Patton...
Who helped train obi-wan in form 3? Someone had to help him switch forms
Since Obi-Wan was the greatest in the defensive style, how long would he have lasted against Sidious?
Actually, he still uses Ataru. How do you think he keeps losing to Dooku?
Day 490 of asking for a part 3 of what if anakin was trained by qui gon
This would make more sense if the movie followed the novelization.
Funny how he lost but maul got bisected....
I think he meant when Maul clearly got the advantage by disarming Obi-Wan with a force push do to seeing an opening in his defense. Honestly that was a critical blunder and most Jedi wouldn't have been able to make such a great comeback let alone bisected his opponent like Obi-Wan did.
@JohnnyDominion I know but the talk is always how obi Wan was defeated by Maul when he was not. He definitely had the advantage there at the end but his actions caused that advantage to not be utilized and because of that he was defeated. As he clone wars began and went on each time they dueled, Obi Wan was the superior light saber duelist, and he in the end killed Maul. So the discussion should never say Maul defeated him. Maybe it should say he was the better duelist in the first encounter but lost because he was overconfident and prideful.
@@creedhayman5953 well maul did disarm obi wan of his lightsaber...and obi wan did not win the fight because of his dueling skills...he got lucky because maul was too arrogant trying to savor a kill and let his guard down...typical "won the battle, but lost the war"
I mean. Dooku cooked obi while holding off anakin.
Yea but he is on a different level than maul
I’m sorry but since when was Qui-gon one of the greatest duelists in the order? He was a consular, not a guardian. Granted, Master Yoda was also a consular and one of the greatest duelists in the order, if not the greatest, but I don’t think Qui-gon was in that league.
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For those not in the know: Ah, this is the most overrated lightsaber fight in history
True Fans: *becomes philosophers*
Really?
Yo I’m the first
You have covered all the topics of your latest videos already. Have y'all literally ran out of lore to explain?
Old ass news. As usual.