Having people on the couch that actually worked on the things you're reacting to really took this show to the next level. Those insider insights are absolutely priceless.
@@GamePlayer1695 the bad cgi has never been a big part of the show, beyond maybe the first couple of episodes. It's always been about appreciation, and even when things don't look that good they try to understand why it looks wrong and why the studio couldn't do better at the time instead of just reacting to it.
My mum is awesome she worked on the lotr, hobbit, avatar, one of the King Kong, planet of the apes, Batman begins and multiple other movies in visual effects
@@arlotilby4288 wow that's amazing! I hope you take advantage of the wealth of knowledge that she must possess...that is of course if it's a field you, yourself are interested in. Either way I'm glad that you are proud of her work and happily share that with us. I'm sure that makes your "mum" very warm and fuzzy. Cheers!
for the longest time I was convinced that Davy Jones was part prosthetics and part CGI, not 100% CGI. To this day I think he's one of the most realistically accomplished CGI characters of all time
@@TheShakan973 Disney is so obsesses with making things look realistic that they overdo it to the point where people can no longer suspend their disbelief. They don’t use lighting to their advantage anymore and the overly high-quality ruins the textured feel of older films, which also makes it harder to comprehend when it’s way too clear.
The fact that Davy Jones still holds up today, and looks better than most cg characters nowadays is so impressive. Also if you guys revisited Blade Runner 2049 that would be epic!
Davy Jones' design was YEARS ahead of its time, and still is. The newest movies are just now barely catching up to Pirates, when it comes to design as good as that.
I *loved* those, especially for Pirates. They were so in-depth and included on the DVDs instead of being exclusive to some special edition like you'll have these days.
i mean they literally got a response from mark hamil on their mandalorian video. (he gave them some advice that if they're trying to work their way in to the industry, to try and not use loaded works like "Better than!" etc. But he was really impressed how they redid that shot.
Haha i mean to be fair, late night talk show would be a step backwards haha, they're already reaching just as many people with way more engaging content I hope their studio does start getting some high profile gigs though, it'd be rad to see their logo after a aaa movie
Nah nah not a late night talk show, but a nice lengthy 1+ hr video podcast by starting off with some highlights from the latest trailers or theatrical releases and then covering a main topic: whether it's a specific film/franchise or a specific VFX topic.
When Bill speaks he naturally moves the bottom half of his mouth way more than the top too, so I imagine that helped with the problem of having the big tentacle-moustache too! 😏
Davy Jones is so incredible that when I didn't know much about FX, I literally thought that they made some advanced puppet and makeup costume hybrid in order to get it all to work. Even now, when I've learned so much about digital effects, whenever I watch that movie I still think he's completely real because even though I know how he was made, it's so perfect that he just registers as a real creature. I'll get back to that "man, can you believe that he's all CG" thought like ten minutes after the movie is over. Crazy shit.
I REALLY want you guys to do a SFX (Sound Effect) Artist React or something similar to that , sound artist and editors are really underrated and under-appreciated
They could do many episodes just on some series too. Think of how many iconic sounds have come out of Star Wars or even the MCU now. Getting insight into not just what makes up those sounds, but also the process of how and why the creators made it that way would be cool. A lot of epic sounds are created using really unexpected things.
You’ve talked about Yoda and Davy Jones now. You should contact Jamy Wheless who was the lead animator for both of those digital characters. He has some great insights about capturing subtle involuntary movements like lip tremors.
You guys should really do a whole episode around Pirates of the Caribbean. There’s so many amazing VFX sequences in the franchise. The skeletons in Curse of the Black Pear, the whirlpool battle, and my personal favorite the Kraken. A lot of possibilities.
I think with Davey Jones they wanted Bill Nighy's real eyes as a backup in case their CG ones weren't good enough, but in the end they were, and obviously it was way easier to just do them as CG rather than roto the real eyes into the scenes.
Suggestion: I think it would be really interesting to see you guys trying to recreate the famous scene from "Jason and the Argonauts" with today's CGI technology.
Agreed! I would love to see the comparison, maybe someone taking the challenge of recreating the scene the exact way as the original like they did with the Dune scene
There was that shot of Davy Jones expressing anger, I think it was and all of the tenticles like stood up and shivered. That was so powerful and so emotive, truly incredible SFX.
*7:56** It shows that they're Cgi guys, that their only concern about that scene of Kong climbing is that he could do it with one hand, and not the fact that this heavy ass gorilla didn't break the walls by holding them in that way*
Since we've now got 6 terminator movies over the course of almost 40 years now, maybe yall could take a look at how the practical and digital effects have changed or stayed the same over the years? Specifically terminator 3, salvation, genesis (my least favorite) and dark fate, as those have both amazing digital effects and practical effects throughout the movies
@@MostlyPennyCat I especially love the attention to practical effects! Like sure, they could've gone completely CGI with the endoskeletons and other things but they went the extra mile!
@@sammy.knuckles especially with T3 because I think that is an AMAZING movie with awesome CHI! Especially towards the end with battle damaged arnie, not to mention the use of practical effects for when the T-800 puts his power core in the terminatrix mouth! So many great parts!
At World's End is basically a pass from me, I was incredibly disappointed by that entry. Curse of the Black Pearl and Dead Man's Chest are both phenomenal though.
Yeah, pretty much only thing holding it back is the mentioned lack of motion blur. But the animation and the blend of live action and animation is so spot on it's hard to believe it was done by manually moving puppets frame by frame.
Stop motion seems to be rather a dying art in this day of extremely complex CGI, alas, but I really do think when done well it has an amazing ability to hold up over time in a way that digital effects don't always do...? I reckon movies like Coraline will still be classics even when the current crop of MCU extravaganzas may perhaps become considered "outdated CGI" by future viewers... As the guys note here, maybe part of it has to do with the way that you get a certain degree of natural lighting & texture for free, without having to be at the mercy of current software's limitations in those spaces?
Davy Jones is one of my favourite antagonists, maybe my most fav. And beyond his written character and outstanding performance, the CG and everything gives it SO much life. The writers, Bill, and VFX team are firing on all cylinders and it's wonderful. Seeing that computer assisted animation can go into making something unachievable otherwise on the desired scale and emotion is really neat to see in a world of modern BTS adding in a false location that exists in reality. It's projects like PotC that stand out in that regard to me, using CG when and element cannot be done otherwise. Thanks for the long breakdown on Jones!
The most fascinating part is, at that time I thought it looked like some kinda octopus makeup was put up on someone. Had that dried makeup type look in some scenes. I never once thought this was completely cg. The lighting and the animation is everything here.
Ah, it's easy. You just rotoscope the face, apply some layers. Add some physics, subsurface scattering and voila. CGI has really come a long way. Could do this under 15 minutes on a calculator.
@@DaFrancc Good match up of facial animation, mocap, and proper specular highlights add a ton. Humans move far differently and more rigidly than the exaggerated yet buttery smooth cartoony ones. I always see mistakes with overdoing lip animations. The newest Luke Skywalker had that issue in two spots in Boba Fett. Same with Leia in Rogue One.
He's one animator. These characters are created by many people, starting by concept artists who draw a bunch of ideas for the director to choose. Some artist drew several Gollums and Peter Jackson chose one. Then many diferent artists modeled and animated the character. Same thing for the shots.
Andy Serkis is one of my favorite actors period. King Kong, Claw, Smeagle, Cesar, and now Alfred. He’s an awesome actor. Not just an awesome actor, but also an awesome director too
the creature in Avatar snapping at him as he jumps off the cliff, it actually makes sense that it bites and claws in the same attack. This is very reminiscent of how felines hunt
@@ComedyBros5 Depends on which Thanos. Sometimes it's amazing and sometimes he looks way to plastic. Btw, I would throw Alita from Alita Battle Angle in there as well. She does fall a bit in the uncanny valley, but the animation is crazy good! After I saw it the first time I got convinced that we would se fully CG humans in movies in a not to far distant future.
To this day Davy Jones remains one of the best, most realistic CG characters ever created. Probably the only character I can think of that 100% looks real and present in the world.
It's so good that the other CG characters in the same shot look only ok at times, at other times not great. But if they were in any other film of the time you'd think 'damn that's good cg'
My favorite thing about this series is that it’s given me such an appreciation for the artists behind the scenes and I love being able to see artists, stunt doubles, actors, directors, and more be able to nerd out about their art and creations. It’s awesome to see their passion from beyond the screen!
Was talking with a friend just yesterday about how important it is for an artist to not just think in terms of realistic animation because it may not feel quite right so animators have to make those artistic decisions to sell the shot.
I really liked the Kong dilemma he explained. I first thought “eh doesn’t look to good” and then as he explains why it’s not great due to the way it was filmed makes so muchhh sense! Respectttt
4:05 easily one of the greatest single moments in cinematic history ever, that shot of gollum holding the ring with the huge crescendo of music choir blaring...and then.. silence...and the single lone boys voice crying out, absolutely fucking kills me. I cannot imagine any other composer doing a better job than what Howard Shore did for these movies.
I would love to see CC take a look at Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within. While not a box office dynamo, as "the first photorealistic computer-animated feature film" it is a landmark in motion capture and computer animation.
As a fan of that movie do you know if there's any validity to the rumor that they originally wanted to advertise it as just a regular live action movie to see if anyone would realize it was actually all CG?
@@ziggygunz2447 I have heard that as well, and I know some people were initially confused over if it was some next level CGI or just really stylized aesthetics. I was into 3D technology, games and behind the scenes cinema tech at the time so I knew what it was long before ever seeing a trailer and as such can't really give an opinion on how convincing it was to an average viewer at the time. I just know I was highly anticipating it at the time and ended up impressed at the tech, if not the story.
The animations in PotC still hold up amazingly to this day. Just imagine if they had the textures that VFX Artists today have. They would be the top examples of VFX by far
Honestly, it might be worse these days because of the fact that these days, movie companies tend to make movies faster but with weird/straight up bad cgi, spider man cgi in marvel franchise is complete bad while in Tasm franchise, it’s very photoreal because they took their time meanwhile marvel tries to make it faster
Pretty sure in Jason and the Argonauts with the skeleton scene there is a moment when they take a sword from one of the skeletons and use it. Had to be some magic going on there :)
The most fun thing is that you showed special effects from several different decades and they ALL work because of the expertise and attention to detail.
Man I remember when Avatar came out and was such a big deal. Like it looked so good that people actually felt as if Pandora was real. There were actually articles on people being so depressed because they wished that they had the ability to have an Avatar and live on a place like Pandora. Crazy times.
@@1747carling there have been CGI effects that, when I was still a kid, I though they looked so real. But then technology improved and now I can blatantly tell it's "just" CGI. The PoTC trilogy is not the case as all the effects look incredibly well even today. Same with for example LOTR.
I'd love for you to take a look at Dave Cameron's Avatar again. Specifically, when I watched the movie, the Colonel guy that Stephen Lang plays looked so ...rendered? ...CG?, even more so than the tall blue people, despite being one of the few human characters. I wonder if you guys, with your knowledge, could tell me why a real human being looked more CG than the actual CG characters.
I remember seeing davie jones for the first time and being just in awe at the animation, its incredible work. My brain genuinely registered it as "real" if that makes sense. The execution was soo good.
Talking about Tim Burton and stop motion meeting CG, would love to hear him and Corridor talk about Mars Attacks, because originally Tim wanted to do stop motion and wasn’t sure if CG would carry a movie.
@@ancientflames I think that's mostly down to how modern production works. Comparatively to some of the tent pole trilogies in the early 2000s like Lord of the Rings which had almost a decade of planning and top artists, most big movies (especially by Disney) are made quite quickly like with Marvel. Marvel for example, has multiple teams developing multiple movies/shows at once, with most teams and houses being the same people working on all of them. So they spend like 4 months filming 10 months before releasing it and that doesn't give time for a lot of wiggle room, especially for last minute changes to CGI heavy scenes or sequences. While some of them look great like Infinity War and a good portion of Phase 3, you get stuff like Black Widow which has terrible compositing in the final act and that's just due to most of these shots being reshoots or pickups done very late having little time to get done. They've already talked about Black Panther but it was a very similar scenario with that, the final act and fight between the villain was filmed last and had to be done in 2/3 months before release. While I enjoy the movies, I don't like the over reliance on CG mainly because not a lot of the time is put into CG especially when they've got 10 other projects down the pipeline that have to be started the next day. Films from Denis Villeneuve, Matt Reeves and Edgar Wright are fantastic in all departments, especially visual effects, because they give time for the teams to work out kinks and adapt with ample time given. Sorry for the little rambling, I've thought about this a lot lmao.
Would love for you guys to start a new series exploring the world of FX makeup, with special guests who work in the industry (either on-camera or behind the scenes), like Doug Jones, for instance.
God, rewatching Eternal Sunshine Of A Spotless Mind just blew my mind with the number of dreamy sequences it has. The seamless edits, lighting changes and cleverly done VFX shots are masterful. How they show eroding memories or warp locations and timelines is so visceral and drama-driven. Please shed some light here - Your Day 1 fan.
Would love to see you guys do a full break down of the Fan Film “Batman: Dead End”. Still one of the coolest fan made crossovers ever done and still holds up despite time. I remember hearing the tales of people lining up at cons to experience multiple viewings of it
Yes!!! It's like a forgotten piece of art these days. I watched it again circa six months ago and then scoured the Internet for any details or behind the scenes stories and there is some fascinating stuff out there. It was like a miracle that it came together at all.
This show has really evolved into something special. The inclusion of industry professionals seriously makes this one of the most compelling series on UA-cam. Congrats to you guys for continuing to innovate and staying fresh all these years
Please re-look at the brilliant movie rango! Particularly the motion capture aspect of it. It's facinating how the whole thing was essentially acted on a sound stage then translated by animators.
Finally the episode I've been waiting for a whole 1 year straight. Davy Jones is my Favorite CG Character Ever. Thanks a lot Corridor Crew for Reacting to this Masterpiece.
When you've been waiting a whole year straight to see an episode on your favourite CG character but didn't know that they talked about it in their very first episode.
@@Michael_Ian_Blackface Actually I did saw that episode bro But I wanted to see a detailed version of that. The reactions weren't that amazing at that time in 2019. But damn now I can feel that reaction.
Niko's comment on the sword blew my mind. It's not just connecting, but sliding around too, because you can see the light reflecting off the blade. They're not just simulating contact, but FRICTION too!!!! I've been a Ray Harryhausen fan since I was a kid, and I'm still learning new things to appreciate about his work. That's insane.
I recently watched Men in Black 3 for the first time. And it made me think that the series would be a great on to take a look at. It's got both great and kind of weird shots that would be interesting to hear people's thoughts on.
Suggestion: You guys should react to the short film REBOOTED on youtube by timtimfed. It's all about a stop-motion skeleton trying to find work in a film industry dominated by cgi. They use a really cool mix of stop-motion and cgi to pull it off
I also love how the animators gave a little bit of extra twitch or jolt to the acting of the tentacles, whenever Davy Jones has a sharp emotion or lash out moment. Just adds to the realism
You guys really help me appreciate film and cgi in a new way and I think it's really refreshing. I've kinda lost my love for movies in recent years but this was really cool.
Earlier Jake tested the accuracy of the disappearance of batman. Can you guys make one to test the effectiveness of how people in movies disappear in front of others in a crowded station or mall like the one in John Wick 2?
Heyo Niko and wren!! Hope you’re doin good!! I know this time were suppose suggest to look back at something you guys did, but I would love to see you guys review Hellboy 2004, and the golden army. They are such amazing films, also having great visual effects and practical effects too.
Thank you all so much for such an incredible episode! I love all VFX artists react episodes, but Robyn, Wren, and Niko are an unstoppable combination! My two favorite VFX artists react episodes have been this one and the one where Robyn talks about his work on Dune. Way to go ya'll! I can't wait to see more episodes (hopefully some with Robyn) and more awesome landmark films that Robyn worked on (thinking about Dune 2 ;) )!
I really wanna see you guys take a look at Legend of the Guardians: Owls of Ga'Hoole. It came out in 2010 and the animation holds up extremely well. The grooms for the owls are all incredible with all of the feather physics and the environments are gorgeous.
What I love about these series, is that they aren't purely entertainmental! I actually learn legit bits of useful tricks that I can use in my own work! Please keep them coming ^^
As an aspiring 3D artist and VFX artist. I love how these videos are fun, but also show the smaller details to consider when creating your art. Speaking of small details, Square space offers you all the small analytic details you need to easily scale your website audience.
I would like to see a reaction on Love, Death & Robots for the "real life" looking episodes like Beyond the Aquila Rift, Snow in the Desert or Life Hutch.
Robyn seems like such a cool, down-to-earth dude; very humble and aware of how fortunate his path has been. Of course, that path would not be as great (or long) if he didn't have the talent to back it up, as he truly has! Thank you all for sharing these clips and insights.
When I first started watching you guys it was visual effects artist reacts 5 or 6. It's been almost over 2 years it feels and here we are at 60+ still going strong.
Great episode!! Love Davy Jones effects, the wet look of the skin makes it so tangible too. Suggestion for future episode: Just finished the season finale of The Guilded Age on HBO and one of the extras was all about the production. How do you film a show set in 1880s New York when New York looks nothing like that these days? They said about 30-40 percent is built on set and the rest is filled in with CGI - it looks very convincing! You guys were also talking about effects in main title sequences, this show has a beautiful CGI title sequence. The marble flowers opening alone is worth mentioning! Love you guys!
I would love a reaction to bad and great werewolves transformations, for example 2004 vanhellsing, underworld series, Harry Potter, etc... it would be really cool!
The Jason and the Argonauts reminded me of a couple of scenes in ine of the Spy Kids movies. I think looking at those movies might be pretty cool. And once again I am going to leave the suggestion of the Narnia series please.
I'm so glad he addressed the elephant in the room regarding Jackson's King Kong. I wanted to love that movie so much and some scenes are mind blowing, however, almost every scene involving a live actor with the CG beasts was terrible. I was just jarringly pulled out of the movie for those scenes and it tarnished it for me. It was such a shame.
I stand by the assertion that Dead Man's Chest is one of the greatest films ever made. The story is amazing and the visual effects were revolutionary. Just all around a 10/10 movie
There's a small thing in the Jason and the Argonauts skeleton fight that I always loved... at one point a skeleton gets his skull lopped off and there's a moment where it just stops fighting and kind of wanders off to find his skull... it just pauses and the torso moves like it's looking around and then just wanders out of frame... always loved that part, that tiny detail that added just a modicum of humor to what was meant to be a dire situation.
Finally! Well done Robin for highlighting the godfather of sfx, the great Ray Harryhausen! It's the one thing I felt had been missing, not appreciating and acknowledging his work. I'm of an age where they were my Star Wars, and the skeleton battle and Talos etc, with that Bernard Herman score from Jason and the Argonauts still thrill to this day.
Suggestion: Practical effects used in The Walking Dead. The level of variety and creativity when it comes to practical effects and make up artistry in that show is immense.
The skeleton taking away the shield of the actor with it's own shield... now that is one of the most satisfying stuff I've seen, knowing this is stop motion.
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Having people on the couch that actually worked on the things you're reacting to really took this show to the next level. Those insider insights are absolutely priceless.
Yeah sure except they never react to bad CGI anymore.
@@GamePlayer1695 the bad cgi has never been a big part of the show, beyond maybe the first couple of episodes. It's always been about appreciation, and even when things don't look that good they try to understand why it looks wrong and why the studio couldn't do better at the time instead of just reacting to it.
My mum is awesome she worked on the lotr, hobbit, avatar, one of the King Kong, planet of the apes, Batman begins and multiple other movies in visual effects
Agreed
@@arlotilby4288 wow that's amazing! I hope you take advantage of the wealth of knowledge that she must possess...that is of course if it's a field you, yourself are interested in. Either way I'm glad that you are proud of her work and happily share that with us. I'm sure that makes your "mum" very warm and fuzzy. Cheers!
for the longest time I was convinced that Davy Jones was part prosthetics and part CGI, not 100% CGI. To this day I think he's one of the most realistically accomplished CGI characters of all time
And it was done years ago..no Marvel movie comes close to this
@@qwerttzizzi thanos looks pretty real tbf
@@qwerttzizzi both marvel & potc cgi are done by Disney, marvel just overuse it
Warcraft CGI is pretty good too the Orcs looks real
@@TheShakan973 Disney is so obsesses with making things look realistic that they overdo it to the point where people can no longer suspend their disbelief. They don’t use lighting to their advantage anymore and the overly high-quality ruins the textured feel of older films, which also makes it harder to comprehend when it’s way too clear.
The fact that Davy Jones still holds up today, and looks better than most cg characters nowadays is so impressive. Also if you guys revisited Blade Runner 2049 that would be epic!
Dead Man's Chest is mad slept on just on GP.
Both Blade Runner would be awesome actually, even though the first one is more on camera work and atmosphere than visual effects
not just holds up. Blows 99.99% of cg out of the watter
I'm surprised by how well Gollum holds up. That was master skill making him.
One of the best looking cgi characters ever made. He looks crazy real.
Davy Jones' design was YEARS ahead of its time, and still is. The newest movies are just now barely catching up to Pirates, when it comes to design as good as that.
I think Davy Jones still looks better than something like Thanos.
@@ComicCrossing Then you need glasses. Lmfao
@@thetruedarkener I believe you do my friend. Thanos doesn't hold a candle to davy jones cgi
I think it was DECADES ahead
@@thetruedarkener Thanos looks like Play-Doh compared to Jones
I loved Davy Jones. The design, the quality of the CG, the SOLID acting. Makes me want to indulge in the films again.
going on that yearly PotC marathon again rn 😆
This series is like crack for people who grew up watching special features on DVDs.
weekly dose
This... is oddly accurate😳
EXACTLY
I *loved* those, especially for Pirates. They were so in-depth and included on the DVDs instead of being exclusive to some special edition like you'll have these days.
@@KonguZya yes! Pirates had the best special features.
I like how they’re getting literal titans of the industry on this show now. At this rate they’re gonna get a whole studio and a late night talk show
i mean they literally got a response from mark hamil on their mandalorian video. (he gave them some advice that if they're trying to work their way in to the industry, to try and not use loaded works like "Better than!" etc. But he was really impressed how they redid that shot.
Haha i mean to be fair, late night talk show would be a step backwards haha, they're already reaching just as many people with way more engaging content
I hope their studio does start getting some high profile gigs though, it'd be rad to see their logo after a aaa movie
@@KaladinVegapunk Seeing them do vfx for a big movie would be so cool
Nah nah not a late night talk show, but a nice lengthy 1+ hr video podcast by starting off with some highlights from the latest trailers or theatrical releases and then covering a main topic: whether it's a specific film/franchise or a specific VFX topic.
Would be awesome, I would fucking eat those all day
The amout of how often Gollum and Davie Jones have been on this show really is a testament to the quality of their CGI work.
Hey Dennis
To be fair, I think Gollum showing up is a testament to all their pro guests having worked at Weta.
Your name is just runes man. How?!
Bill Nighy is such a great actor. He really brings it to every role.
Bill Nigh-y the Acting Guy-ee.
Same with Andy Serkis. Those dudes take their art to the next level.
Thank hod someone typed his name I swore the whole time I herd Bill nye like the science guy lol (I rarely watch movies) lol 😂
@@clungeplunger13 lol
When Bill speaks he naturally moves the bottom half of his mouth way more than the top too, so I imagine that helped with the problem of having the big tentacle-moustache too! 😏
Davy Jones is so incredible that when I didn't know much about FX, I literally thought that they made some advanced puppet and makeup costume hybrid in order to get it all to work. Even now, when I've learned so much about digital effects, whenever I watch that movie I still think he's completely real because even though I know how he was made, it's so perfect that he just registers as a real creature. I'll get back to that "man, can you believe that he's all CG" thought like ten minutes after the movie is over. Crazy shit.
I REALLY want you guys to do a SFX (Sound Effect) Artist React or something similar to that , sound artist and editors are really underrated and under-appreciated
Sound design is very under appreciated
This is the best idea I've seen in a comment for a long time.
They could do many episodes just on some series too. Think of how many iconic sounds have come out of Star Wars or even the MCU now. Getting insight into not just what makes up those sounds, but also the process of how and why the creators made it that way would be cool. A lot of epic sounds are created using really unexpected things.
Amazing Idea :D
Oh yeah you right, that would be awesome
You’ve talked about Yoda and Davy Jones now. You should contact Jamy Wheless who was the lead animator for both of those digital characters. He has some great insights about capturing subtle involuntary movements like lip tremors.
That would be great
Suggestion: Pyrotechnic reacts to Michael Bay movies
So 20 minutes of some guy crying?
Lol
Good, but maybe better would be, Pyromaniac reacts to Michael Bay
Yes.
Yea pyrotechnics in media
You guys should really do a whole episode around Pirates of the Caribbean. There’s so many amazing VFX sequences in the franchise. The skeletons in Curse of the Black Pear, the whirlpool battle, and my personal favorite the Kraken. A lot of possibilities.
I think with Davey Jones they wanted Bill Nighy's real eyes as a backup in case their CG ones weren't good enough, but in the end they were, and obviously it was way easier to just do them as CG rather than roto the real eyes into the scenes.
Congrats on making Entertainment Weekly’s “Must List”. Finally something I agree with them on. Well done!
Oh that’s awesome!
Where would one find this?
What?!
@@SleepyBear-66 congrats!
Where's this listed??
We’ve recently been rewatching LoTR in 4k, and Gollum still looks absolutely incredible.
tbh that one was retouched for 4k if i am not mistaken
@@ipraytovodka Peter Jackson said the CGI wasn't changed, just upscaled
@@battmarn and what do you think upscaled means?
Suggestion: I think it would be really interesting to see you guys trying to recreate the famous scene from "Jason and the Argonauts" with today's CGI technology.
Agreed! I would love to see the comparison, maybe someone taking the challenge of recreating the scene the exact way as the original like they did with the Dune scene
It would probably be more realistic to attempt the skeleton fight Harryhausen did for Sinbad since that only has one skeleton.
as in like what they did with the Dune shields video where they just put their version on top of it or rebuild the scene from the ground up?
@@redglassesart usually they do those challenges in like a few days, and you wont get that level of stop motion in that time^^
Yes
There was that shot of Davy Jones expressing anger, I think it was and all of the tenticles like stood up and shivered. That was so powerful and so emotive, truly incredible SFX.
*7:56** It shows that they're Cgi guys, that their only concern about that scene of Kong climbing is that he could do it with one hand, and not the fact that this heavy ass gorilla didn't break the walls by holding them in that way*
Since we've now got 6 terminator movies over the course of almost 40 years now, maybe yall could take a look at how the practical and digital effects have changed or stayed the same over the years? Specifically terminator 3, salvation, genesis (my least favorite) and dark fate, as those have both amazing digital effects and practical effects throughout the movies
Good one
As somebody who actually really liked Salvation, the fact that in comparison it just gets better and better as the years go by pleases me.
@@MostlyPennyCat I especially love the attention to practical effects! Like sure, they could've gone completely CGI with the endoskeletons and other things but they went the extra mile!
Yes! I second this idea, I would love to watch the progression of CGI over the course of that franchise.
@@sammy.knuckles especially with T3 because I think that is an AMAZING movie with awesome CHI! Especially towards the end with battle damaged arnie, not to mention the use of practical effects for when the T-800 puts his power core in the terminatrix mouth! So many great parts!
Gore Verbinski's Pirates trilogy never gets old and ages so well! Always love whenever you guys talk about it!
Agreed. It's so underrated but so amazing.
That reminds me, they've gotta do Rango at some point
absolute milestone of filmhistory just like lotr
@@hillefoozy for an animator reacts! Yesss that would be so good!
At World's End is basically a pass from me, I was incredibly disappointed by that entry. Curse of the Black Pearl and Dead Man's Chest are both phenomenal though.
That Jason and the Argonauts sequence is genuinely incredible. The fact that it still holds up today and looks as seamless as it does is mind blowing
Yeah, pretty much only thing holding it back is the mentioned lack of motion blur. But the animation and the blend of live action and animation is so spot on it's hard to believe it was done by manually moving puppets frame by frame.
Stop motion seems to be rather a dying art in this day of extremely complex CGI, alas, but I really do think when done well it has an amazing ability to hold up over time in a way that digital effects don't always do...? I reckon movies like Coraline will still be classics even when the current crop of MCU extravaganzas may perhaps become considered "outdated CGI" by future viewers... As the guys note here, maybe part of it has to do with the way that you get a certain degree of natural lighting & texture for free, without having to be at the mercy of current software's limitations in those spaces?
The fact that you still visually can tell it's Bill Nighy behind all that cg just shows how well Davy Jones was done
Davy Jones is one of my favourite antagonists, maybe my most fav. And beyond his written character and outstanding performance, the CG and everything gives it SO much life. The writers, Bill, and VFX team are firing on all cylinders and it's wonderful. Seeing that computer assisted animation can go into making something unachievable otherwise on the desired scale and emotion is really neat to see in a world of modern BTS adding in a false location that exists in reality. It's projects like PotC that stand out in that regard to me, using CG when and element cannot be done otherwise. Thanks for the long breakdown on Jones!
it’s literally not comprehensible how realistic Davy Jones looks like
It really makes me wonder why Davy Jones is so much more realistic compared to other CGI creations around the same time or even ones produced today
The most fascinating part is, at that time I thought it looked like some kinda octopus makeup was put up on someone. Had that dried makeup type look in some scenes. I never once thought this was completely cg. The lighting and the animation is everything here.
Ah, it's easy. You just rotoscope the face, apply some layers. Add some physics, subsurface scattering and voila. CGI has really come a long way. Could do this under 15 minutes on a calculator.
@@padosh420 lol
@@DaFrancc Good match up of facial animation, mocap, and proper specular highlights add a ton. Humans move far differently and more rigidly than the exaggerated yet buttery smooth cartoony ones. I always see mistakes with overdoing lip animations. The newest Luke Skywalker had that issue in two spots in Boba Fett. Same with Leia in Rogue One.
This guy's a legend man he's literally created so many iconic shots and characters!!
He's one animator. These characters are created by many people, starting by concept artists who draw a bunch of ideas for the director to choose. Some artist drew several Gollums and Peter Jackson chose one. Then many diferent artists modeled and animated the character.
Same thing for the shots.
Andy Serkis is one of my favorite actors period. King Kong, Claw, Smeagle, Cesar, and now Alfred. He’s an awesome actor. Not just an awesome actor, but also an awesome director too
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the creature in Avatar snapping at him as he jumps off the cliff, it actually makes sense that it bites and claws in the same attack. This is very reminiscent of how felines hunt
I was thinking the same thing - they grab with the claws and kill with the jaws.
That snap/claw shot from Avatar is definitely tense. First time I watched it I thought it was going to be a takeout and Sully would get snagged.
Verified? But 6 days ago
Gollum and Davy Jones are two of the best CG characters of all time. Absolutely incredible work.
Add King Kong on that list as well.. there are some questionable CG scenes in the film, but King Kong always looks amazing.
And honestly, the only CG character since then that really compares is Thanos.
You forgot Ceasar from Planet of the Apes... man i love these movies and the cgi from the apes are just soooo realistic
@@bubiwaan5857 Yeah, the last 2 films are unreal at how real they look. The big orangutan, photo-realistic.
@@ComedyBros5 Depends on which Thanos. Sometimes it's amazing and sometimes he looks way to plastic.
Btw, I would throw Alita from Alita Battle Angle in there as well. She does fall a bit in the uncanny valley, but the animation is crazy good! After I saw it the first time I got convinced that we would se fully CG humans in movies in a not to far distant future.
I'd really like to see a Foley artist come in and go over sound effects. Not visual, I know, but still would be interesting.
Agreed!!
That would be amazing
Oh hell yes! I've had interest in Foley since middle school.
100% yes to this idea!!
YES! Please do SFX Artists react!!!
To this day Davy Jones remains one of the best, most realistic CG characters ever created. Probably the only character I can think of that 100% looks real and present in the world.
It's so good that the other CG characters in the same shot look only ok at times, at other times not great. But if they were in any other film of the time you'd think 'damn that's good cg'
@@mikeprice25 exactly right. He sometimes even looks more realistic than Captain Jack Sparrow
Thanos was also pretty realistic.
@@tylerstanford2275 true, Thanos was both right and rendered extraordinarily well
Christopher Jones from District 9 is a close second IMO.
Davy Jones, Ceaser, Thanos and Gollum are the gold standard. Absolutely Amazing.
I know everyone likes to talk about Gollum, but damn, that Davy Jones animation is so freaking good, probably one of the best I've ever seen.
My favorite thing about this series is that it’s given me such an appreciation for the artists behind the scenes and I love being able to see artists, stunt doubles, actors, directors, and more be able to nerd out about their art and creations. It’s awesome to see their passion from beyond the screen!
Davy jones is such a work of art
Was talking with a friend just yesterday about how important it is for an artist to not just think in terms of realistic animation because it may not feel quite right so animators have to make those artistic decisions to sell the shot.
I really liked the Kong dilemma he explained. I first thought “eh doesn’t look to good” and then as he explains why it’s not great due to the way it was filmed makes so muchhh sense! Respectttt
Yeah, I legitimately thought Davy was an animatronic mask. It STILL looks too realistic for me to believe it's NOT, lol.
4:05 easily one of the greatest single moments in cinematic history ever, that shot of gollum holding the ring with the huge crescendo of music choir blaring...and then.. silence...and the single lone boys voice crying out, absolutely fucking kills me. I cannot imagine any other composer doing a better job than what Howard Shore did for these movies.
Agreed. The Lord of the Rings as a whole is still my favorite trilogy to date.
I agree, the trilogy had that lightning in a bottle effect with various elements, music was one of them
I would love to see CC take a look at Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within. While not a box office dynamo, as "the first photorealistic computer-animated feature film" it is a landmark in motion capture and computer animation.
As a fan of that movie do you know if there's any validity to the rumor that they originally wanted to advertise it as just a regular live action movie to see if anyone would realize it was actually all CG?
@@ziggygunz2447 I have heard that as well, and I know some people were initially confused over if it was some next level CGI or just really stylized aesthetics. I was into 3D technology, games and behind the scenes cinema tech at the time so I knew what it was long before ever seeing a trailer and as such can't really give an opinion on how convincing it was to an average viewer at the time. I just know I was highly anticipating it at the time and ended up impressed at the tech, if not the story.
Everything about Davy Jones is incredible, especially Bill Nighy.
The animations in PotC still hold up amazingly to this day.
Just imagine if they had the textures that VFX Artists today have. They would be the top examples of VFX by far
Honestly, it might be worse these days because of the fact that these days, movie companies tend to make movies faster but with weird/straight up bad cgi, spider man cgi in marvel franchise is complete bad while in Tasm franchise, it’s very photoreal because they took their time meanwhile marvel tries to make it faster
It tops almost every vfx characters to this date.
@@luciddream5055 the only thing that comes close is thanos
Lolol why did my mind go straight to Passion of the Christ not Pirates of the Caribbean 🤦🏼♀️
Pretty sure in Jason and the Argonauts with the skeleton scene there is a moment when they take a sword from one of the skeletons and use it. Had to be some magic going on there :)
The most fun thing is that you showed special effects from several different decades and they ALL work because of the expertise and attention to detail.
Man I remember when Avatar came out and was such a big deal. Like it looked so good that people actually felt as if Pandora was real. There were actually articles on people being so depressed because they wished that they had the ability to have an Avatar and live on a place like Pandora. Crazy times.
I rmbr that too
Yeah and it still looks so good
Just imagine Avatar 2, with 12 years of tech development since part 1. It will absolutely set a new standard.
The CGI of Davy Jones is so amazing he still looks 100% real
What do you mean 'still looks 100% real'? Time can't make things that look 100% real look less than 100% real.
@@1747carling there have been CGI effects that, when I was still a kid, I though they looked so real. But then technology improved and now I can blatantly tell it's "just" CGI. The PoTC trilogy is not the case as all the effects look incredibly well even today. Same with for example LOTR.
@@1747carling You know what she means. You making it complicated to prove your silly point mate.
I'd love for you to take a look at Dave Cameron's Avatar again. Specifically, when I watched the movie, the Colonel guy that Stephen Lang plays looked so ...rendered? ...CG?, even more so than the tall blue people, despite being one of the few human characters. I wonder if you guys, with your knowledge, could tell me why a real human being looked more CG than the actual CG characters.
I think you're getting James Cameron mixed up with a former British Prime Minister.
I remember seeing davie jones for the first time and being just in awe at the animation, its incredible work.
My brain genuinely registered it as "real" if that makes sense. The execution was soo good.
Talking about Tim Burton and stop motion meeting CG, would love to hear him and Corridor talk about Mars Attacks, because originally Tim wanted to do stop motion and wasn’t sure if CG would carry a movie.
The animation in lord of the rings was revolutionary
Yeah
Still holds up very well even compared to modern stuff
@@ancientflames holds up better then the Hobbit, my god they look trash 😅
@@ancientflames I think that's mostly down to how modern production works. Comparatively to some of the tent pole trilogies in the early 2000s like Lord of the Rings which had almost a decade of planning and top artists, most big movies (especially by Disney) are made quite quickly like with Marvel. Marvel for example, has multiple teams developing multiple movies/shows at once, with most teams and houses being the same people working on all of them. So they spend like 4 months filming 10 months before releasing it and that doesn't give time for a lot of wiggle room, especially for last minute changes to CGI heavy scenes or sequences.
While some of them look great like Infinity War and a good portion of Phase 3, you get stuff like Black Widow which has terrible compositing in the final act and that's just due to most of these shots being reshoots or pickups done very late having little time to get done. They've already talked about Black Panther but it was a very similar scenario with that, the final act and fight between the villain was filmed last and had to be done in 2/3 months before release.
While I enjoy the movies, I don't like the over reliance on CG mainly because not a lot of the time is put into CG especially when they've got 10 other projects down the pipeline that have to be started the next day. Films from Denis Villeneuve, Matt Reeves and Edgar Wright are fantastic in all departments, especially visual effects, because they give time for the teams to work out kinks and adapt with ample time given. Sorry for the little rambling, I've thought about this a lot lmao.
@@sean7332 god i hate how shiny and fake the hobbit looks
Would love for you guys to start a new series exploring the world of FX makeup, with special guests who work in the industry (either on-camera or behind the scenes), like Doug Jones, for instance.
I definitely didn't have enough appreciation for Davy Jones when that movie came out. Now I do.
God, rewatching Eternal Sunshine Of A Spotless Mind just blew my mind with the number of dreamy sequences it has. The seamless edits, lighting changes and cleverly done VFX shots are masterful. How they show eroding memories or warp locations and timelines is so visceral and drama-driven. Please shed some light here - Your Day 1 fan.
The Expanse's many space visual effects need an episode or two solely to them. Even the planetside shots could get more love.
Suggestion: Dark city. It has crazy city wide transformation scenes. Definitely worth checking out
One of my favourite films of all time. So underrated.
Would love to see you guys do a full break down of the Fan Film “Batman: Dead End”. Still one of the coolest fan made crossovers ever done and still holds up despite time. I remember hearing the tales of people lining up at cons to experience multiple viewings of it
Yes!!! It's like a forgotten piece of art these days. I watched it again circa six months ago and then scoured the Internet for any details or behind the scenes stories and there is some fascinating stuff out there. It was like a miracle that it came together at all.
This show has really evolved into something special. The inclusion of industry professionals seriously makes this one of the most compelling series on UA-cam. Congrats to you guys for continuing to innovate and staying fresh all these years
It would be really interesting to hear you talk about the old hellboy movies compared to the new one, especially hellboy as a character itself!
Please re-look at the brilliant movie rango! Particularly the motion capture aspect of it. It's facinating how the whole thing was essentially acted on a sound stage then translated by animators.
Would love to see this
Yessss in fact it technially was just "emotion capture" as Johnny Depp put it
Finally the episode I've been waiting for a whole 1 year straight. Davy Jones is my Favorite CG Character Ever. Thanks a lot Corridor Crew for Reacting to this Masterpiece.
@@alover466 wait my name is .Rizwan Too.... Amazing
@@alover466 it's called pirates of the Caribbean dead man's chest your welcome
When you've been waiting a whole year straight to see an episode on your favourite CG character but didn't know that they talked about it in their very first episode.
@@Michael_Ian_Blackface Actually I did saw that episode bro
But I wanted to see a detailed version of that. The reactions weren't that amazing at that time in 2019. But damn now I can feel that reaction.
@@alover466 rizwan Bro. I am a VFX Artist, definitely take a look at my latest vfx video. Thanks
I think Wren can officially go on record for being the first person ever to use the term, "Cheek Nostril".
Niko's comment on the sword blew my mind. It's not just connecting, but sliding around too, because you can see the light reflecting off the blade. They're not just simulating contact, but FRICTION too!!!! I've been a Ray Harryhausen fan since I was a kid, and I'm still learning new things to appreciate about his work. That's insane.
Davy Jones is so good tbh plot wise, design wise and cgi wise all of them. The Cgi is so good that's on par with today cgi
I recently watched Men in Black 3 for the first time. And it made me think that the series would be a great on to take a look at. It's got both great and kind of weird shots that would be interesting to hear people's thoughts on.
Suggestion: You guys should react to the short film REBOOTED on youtube by timtimfed. It's all about a stop-motion skeleton trying to find work in a film industry dominated by cgi. They use a really cool mix of stop-motion and cgi to pull it off
Just watched this because of your suggestion and wow! It was so good, the mix and references where great, I'd love to see them react to it as well
I also love how the animators gave a little bit of extra twitch or jolt to the acting of the tentacles, whenever Davy Jones has a sharp emotion or lash out moment. Just adds to the realism
Having Robyn is a treat. His knowledge, and voice has really makes episodes better.
You guys really help me appreciate film and cgi in a new way and I think it's really refreshing. I've kinda lost my love for movies in recent years but this was really cool.
Earlier Jake tested the accuracy of the disappearance of batman. Can you guys make one to test the effectiveness of how people in movies disappear in front of others in a crowded station or mall like the one in John Wick 2?
Jason and the Argonauts was crazy to watch as a child, I think it and Star Wars were my childhood favorites.
I saw it in the early 80’s as a kid and it terrified me. 😂
Heyo Niko and wren!! Hope you’re doin good!! I know this time were suppose suggest to look back at something you guys did, but I would love to see you guys review Hellboy 2004, and the golden army. They are such amazing films, also having great visual effects and practical effects too.
Thank you all so much for such an incredible episode! I love all VFX artists react episodes, but Robyn, Wren, and Niko are an unstoppable combination! My two favorite VFX artists react episodes have been this one and the one where Robyn talks about his work on Dune.
Way to go ya'll! I can't wait to see more episodes (hopefully some with Robyn) and more awesome landmark films that Robyn worked on (thinking about Dune 2 ;) )!
I really wanna see you guys take a look at Legend of the Guardians: Owls of Ga'Hoole. It came out in 2010 and the animation holds up extremely well. The grooms for the owls are all incredible with all of the feather physics and the environments are gorgeous.
What I love about these series, is that they aren't purely entertainmental! I actually learn legit bits of useful tricks that I can use in my own work! Please keep them coming ^^
Is "Do the lips stick?" going to replace the "Do the pores stretch?" benchmark? I hope so!
Love these, keep it up! Also for a suggestion Enders Game had some interesting scenes in it to break down.
my favorite episodes are the ones where they get industry people in too discuss shots they worked on. i will never tire of this series.
As an aspiring 3D artist and VFX artist. I love how these videos are fun, but also show the smaller details to consider when creating your art. Speaking of small details, Square space offers you all the small analytic details you need to easily scale your website audience.
I would like to see a reaction on Love, Death & Robots for the "real life" looking episodes like Beyond the Aquila Rift, Snow in the Desert or Life Hutch.
And an "animators react" episode for episodes like "The Witness" and "Zima Blue". They could also check out the stop motion in "All Around the House".
Robyn seems like such a cool, down-to-earth dude; very humble and aware of how fortunate his path has been. Of course, that path would not be as great (or long) if he didn't have the talent to back it up, as he truly has! Thank you all for sharing these clips and insights.
From sofa to sofa: thanks guys for making Saturday great again!🤜🏼🤛🏻
When I first started watching you guys it was visual effects artist reacts 5 or 6. It's been almost over 2 years it feels and here we are at 60+ still going strong.
Great episode!! Love Davy Jones effects, the wet look of the skin makes it so tangible too.
Suggestion for future episode:
Just finished the season finale of The Guilded Age on HBO and one of the extras was all about the production. How do you film a show set in 1880s New York when New York looks nothing like that these days? They said about 30-40 percent is built on set and the rest is filled in with CGI - it looks very convincing! You guys were also talking about effects in main title sequences, this show has a beautiful CGI title sequence. The marble flowers opening alone is worth mentioning!
Love you guys!
It’s great seeing more practical effects being featured (truly how practical is stop motion). Gotta love Ray Harryhausen.
Nighy is so darn engaging on screen, it's fun watching him in _Shaun of the Dead_ and _Underworld_ and somehow recognizing Davey Jones tics!
*Bill Nighy tics
Rattlesnake Jake from Rango too!
I would love a reaction to bad and great werewolves transformations, for example 2004 vanhellsing, underworld series, Harry Potter, etc... it would be really cool!
I am so happy you guys are finally talking about Harryhausen! He for me is such a big inspiration and you can learn a lot about vfx in his work.
The cereal stint really worked, I like it
The Jason and the Argonauts reminded me of a couple of scenes in ine of the Spy Kids movies. I think looking at those movies might be pretty cool. And once again I am going to leave the suggestion of the Narnia series please.
I would love to see a narnia episode where they cover the old campy bbc series as well as the post 2000 movies :)
I'm so glad he addressed the elephant in the room regarding Jackson's King Kong. I wanted to love that movie so much and some scenes are mind blowing, however, almost every scene involving a live actor with the CG beasts was terrible. I was just jarringly pulled out of the movie for those scenes and it tarnished it for me. It was such a shame.
I stand by the assertion that Dead Man's Chest is one of the greatest films ever made. The story is amazing and the visual effects were revolutionary. Just all around a 10/10 movie
I think it would have benefited greatly by removing the whole island sequence. Aside from that, the movie is amazing.
@@ComedyBros5 the one with the cannibals?
The movie is a masterpiece. Best potc movie imo
The second and third pirates movies are both underrated masterpieces. They are rotten on rotten tomatoes, like what the hell?
@@peterstangl8295 Yeah, I don't think that whole bit was necessary.
There's a small thing in the Jason and the Argonauts skeleton fight that I always loved... at one point a skeleton gets his skull lopped off and there's a moment where it just stops fighting and kind of wanders off to find his skull... it just pauses and the torso moves like it's looking around and then just wanders out of frame... always loved that part, that tiny detail that added just a modicum of humor to what was meant to be a dire situation.
Finally! Well done Robin for highlighting the godfather of sfx, the great Ray Harryhausen! It's the one thing I felt had been missing, not appreciating and acknowledging his work. I'm of an age where they were my Star Wars, and the skeleton battle and Talos etc, with that Bernard Herman score from Jason and the Argonauts still thrill to this day.
You guys should make a video on making the batmans eyes white so we can see how that would look like.
We NEED this
YES Please! I need to see all live action BATMAN use the white eye like the animation series
Suggestion: Practical effects used in The Walking Dead. The level of variety and creativity when it comes to practical effects and make up artistry in that show is immense.
How about a look at Starro from The Suicide Squad (2021)? Easily some of the best Kaiju work ever.
The skeleton taking away the shield of the actor with it's own shield... now that is one of the most satisfying stuff I've seen, knowing this is stop motion.