Missed chance for making it like Greek. Y'know since you can place your conlang in Afghanistan (Balti is close by) and Afghanistan has a pretty large Greek influence.
It's really tremendous to see a fellow Pole speaking actually proper English. Pozdrawia Grzegorz Brzęczyszczykiewicz, dumny wojak z Chrząszczyrzewoszyc znajdujących się w powiecie Łękołodzkim.
8:40 fwiw my understanding is that the Baxter-Sagart Old Chinese reconstruction is generally considered more likely (in terms of ending up at Middle Chinese as per sources like the Qieyun, anyway) of the two, in part because there are more recent revisions to it and apparently B-S made use of some newer methods whereas Zhengzhang's were more traditional.
Huh, so did Tonesian develop tones while Chinese was still in the toneless Old Chinese phase? Heheh. I wish you went into the orthography a bit more- specifically, how is the Chinese logography adapted to write the big Indo-European pile of declension endings that aren't a thing in the analytical Chinese language? Just finding a phonetic approximation?
Technically, "Chinese" means Sinitic languages so an Indo-European language can never be Chinese. It can only be in the Sinosphere including Korean, Japanese and Vietnamese, which are languages that are not Sinotibetan but under heavy Chinese influences
1:01, the baʔ becoming Falling isn't wrong, but there's are intermediary steps. The actual tonogenesis is -∅︀ > 'Level' (Ping) > Mandarin voiceless = Level, voiced = Rising -ʔ > "Rising" (Shang) > Mandarin voiceless = Dipping, voiced obstruent > Qu > Mandarin Falling -s > -h > "Departing" (Qu). > Mandarin Falling Other varieties have a voicing tone split across all three, we can just say Mandarin only split the Level tone. Then there's a later merger where voiced obstruent "Rising" syllables become "Departing" in most varieties. 1:22 voiced obstruents in the Middle Chinese Level tone (so Mandarin tone 2) do get aspirated. So 平 is something like bi(æ)ŋ > /pʰiŋ˩˥/. Voiced obstruents in the 'Rising' and 'Departing' tone don't get aspirated. So 病 biæŋH > /piŋ˥˩/
3:44 ermm actually chase is also of French origin, you should've used 'hunt' as the example instead, I will now proceed to dislike every single video and comment you have ever made 🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓
If you remove consonant clusters and introduce competition among different consonants, the result will resemble Chinese more closely. Old Chinese like many of its Tibeto-Burman siblings, allowed the existence of consonant clusters, some even arising from morphological processes. However, Chinese lost these clusters over time, leaving behind a collection of characters that appear to have identical pronunciations but actually different, for example: 各 (reconstruction: klaːɡ ("different, separate, independent")) 客 keˋ ("guest, outsider" 宀 represents a building) 格 geˊ ("grid, framework, standard" 木 represents a tree) 絡 luoˋ ("net-like, cotton or hemp fibers, interconnected" 糸 represents fibers) 路 luˋ ("road" 足 represents feet) Another example: 監 (reconstruction: kraːm) 檻 kanˇ 鑑 jianˋ 艦 jianˋ (Note: This character is pronounced as "lam" in Hokkien and Cantonese, where southern Sino languages retains a different consonant) 藍 lanˊ I'm not sure whether ancient people retained certain consonants randomly or with intention (or both) (perhaps linguists have studied this?), but I think applying this rule in constructed languages could be fascinating. For instance, one could select different consonants based on the word's part of speech 😀
you madman this is incredible
The guy has came 🎉
@@Aliphwhy the guy did WHAT
Years ago, I was Indo-European
Those were the days
Thank God you were cured
Now im tocharian, later chinese
Well, one of my conlang projects be like: "We were Sino-Tibetans but now we're Romans"
a Sino-Tibetan conlang that sounds a lot like Latin
that seems like a cool idea, how is it going?
ཟི་ཡོུ།
"Latin" would be cool!
Missed chance for making it like Greek. Y'know since you can place your conlang in Afghanistan (Balti is close by) and Afghanistan has a pretty large Greek influence.
I will use the title of this video to prove proto-world.
It's really tremendous to see a fellow Pole speaking actually proper English. Pozdrawia Grzegorz Brzęczyszczykiewicz, dumny wojak z Chrząszczyrzewoszyc znajdujących się w powiecie Łękołodzkim.
*Chrząszczyszewoszyc
Is he really prawdziwym polakiem? I missed that bit of lore but he absolutely looks Polish.
dumny WHAT now?
@@micheal5117 it's pronounced "vo-yock"
Kshekorz Przendzischikievitsch*
I was confused by the title so I click the video. Now, after watching the video, I am more confused than before.
8:40 fwiw my understanding is that the Baxter-Sagart Old Chinese reconstruction is generally considered more likely (in terms of ending up at Middle Chinese as per sources like the Qieyun, anyway) of the two, in part because there are more recent revisions to it and apparently B-S made use of some newer methods whereas Zhengzhang's were more traditional.
well, Baxter-Sagart, has a name like B-S, it's gotta make up for it by being likely
💖💖💖ZZINEOHP IS THE MOST HUMBLE AND HEARTWARMING PERSON TO EVER EXIST💖💖💖
1st reply in comment history
@@cutiecat413 True, in fact, it is the 1st reply in the ENTIRE history. I hope you are proud of yourself
This comment was clearly made by a bot smh
@DrathisZzineohp is a bot!?!?!???!??!!
@@I_Love_Learningof course, the generic compliment to the youtuber, the frequent use of emojis, that's a comment bot if I've ever seen one
ეს რა ტიპის აუტიზმია?
my type
ŚПΟΛη кгIе OŚTΛS Ņ SAAгŐ
the beyond thing
Արմենիան ոնե․
this video was so delicious, I wish it were a steak so I could devour it
Huh, so did Tonesian develop tones while Chinese was still in the toneless Old Chinese phase? Heheh. I wish you went into the orthography a bit more- specifically, how is the Chinese logography adapted to write the big Indo-European pile of declension endings that aren't a thing in the analytical Chinese language? Just finding a phonetic approximation?
There's a good linguistics video on yt that this oft cited high low class distinction between French and English is linguistics baloney
I had wanted to do something like this for years, very well done, very cool
All hail great Siniąf'a conlangs
@@pas-giaw6055 did you really use an apostrophe and then put my name in genitive
@@zzineohp yes
I dreamed of making a sinicized proto-indoeuropean language too. Not introduce chinese-ness but evolve it that it resembles a sinitic language.
Technically, "Chinese" means Sinitic languages so an Indo-European language can never be Chinese. It can only be in the Sinosphere including Korean, Japanese and Vietnamese, which are languages that are not Sinotibetan but under heavy Chinese influences
But thats not what he meant by chinese
6:03
wood and tree - древесина (material) и дерево (plant)
arm and hand - рука и кисть
foot and leg - ступня и нога
that sentence definitely sounded more Lhasa Tibetan than Mandarin to me 😂
1:01, the baʔ becoming Falling isn't wrong, but there's are intermediary steps. The actual tonogenesis is
-∅︀ > 'Level' (Ping) > Mandarin voiceless = Level, voiced = Rising
-ʔ > "Rising" (Shang) > Mandarin voiceless = Dipping, voiced obstruent > Qu > Mandarin Falling
-s > -h > "Departing" (Qu). > Mandarin Falling
Other varieties have a voicing tone split across all three, we can just say Mandarin only split the Level tone.
Then there's a later merger where voiced obstruent "Rising" syllables become "Departing" in most varieties.
1:22 voiced obstruents in the Middle Chinese Level tone (so Mandarin tone 2) do get aspirated. So 平 is something like bi(æ)ŋ > /pʰiŋ˩˥/. Voiced obstruents in the 'Rising' and 'Departing' tone don't get aspirated. So 病 biæŋH > /piŋ˥˩/
Try doing indo-european into the most phonetically massive language ever
What happens when an indo-european language enters the Caucasus basically
You know what else is massive?
My mom! @@asphodelica
Low taper fade, It's crazy how massive that meme still is@@asphodelica
@@arthurgabriel2625 Ossetian?
3:44 ermm actually chase is also of French origin, you should've used 'hunt' as the example instead, I will now proceed to dislike every single video and comment you have ever made 🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓
lmaoooo
I literally came here to say that lol
and "truth" comes from of old english, the french loan word equivalent would be "verity" from "vérité".
jak późno, jak późno? dopiero czwarta, nad ranem...
A language with the strucrure of finnish, sounds of chinese and indo european origins.. neat.
If a language of similar history exists we would probably have a way better understanding of old chinese
i love this series
The mewing cutaway sent me 😂
old chinese isn't tonal, innit?
Cutaway gags aren't funny anymore. I already know what the inside if an object looks like
What the inside If the object looks like: Good! Make it look more like!
Else: Make it look like to begin with
Entertaining
damn stole my idea from 4 years ago (but did it with tocharian instead)
If you remove consonant clusters and introduce competition among different consonants, the result will resemble Chinese more closely. Old Chinese like many of its Tibeto-Burman siblings, allowed the existence of consonant clusters, some even arising from morphological processes. However, Chinese lost these clusters over time, leaving behind a collection of characters that appear to have identical pronunciations but actually different, for example:
各 (reconstruction: klaːɡ ("different, separate, independent"))
客 keˋ ("guest, outsider" 宀 represents a building)
格 geˊ ("grid, framework, standard" 木 represents a tree)
絡 luoˋ ("net-like, cotton or hemp fibers, interconnected" 糸 represents fibers)
路 luˋ ("road" 足 represents feet)
Another example:
監 (reconstruction: kraːm)
檻 kanˇ
鑑 jianˋ
艦 jianˋ (Note: This character is pronounced as "lam" in Hokkien and Cantonese, where southern Sino languages retains a different consonant)
藍 lanˊ
I'm not sure whether ancient people retained certain consonants randomly or with intention (or both) (perhaps linguists have studied this?), but I think applying this rule in constructed languages could be fascinating. For instance, one could select different consonants based on the word's part of speech 😀
No, words ending in "i" in russian can be declined through as plurals
Actually, you don't need to use loan words for new things they find after migrating! Often, languages will repurpose old words in that situation
Indo Europeans of Asia 🇮🇳🇮🇷🇵🇰🇦🇫🇧🇩🇳🇵🇱🇰🇲🇻🇦🇲🇹🇯🇷🇺
In future videos, can you use a voice changer for the first syllable of every video?
Tian is one word for day in Chinese (Дан [DAHN], аnd similar in Serbian.....)
Old Chinese for it is Ten. prehistoric sinitics probably had even more connections with the OG turks than we know, their sky is Tengri
Taitele ou dis vidyrn gewritten in protoindoeuropean:
hou tu tong putong yindu ou yuyan v zhongwen
I am Chinese
Anti spiral
Man, I need to go to bed, and I am choosing the last shadow puppets over you when brushing my teeth. 😢😢🎉
3:08
we wuz kangz n sheetz
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I had a look around and this is the one I was referring to
strange
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Peak…
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