Hey guys, tall crossmen snare drummer standing next to center here, and we appreciate all the awesome comments! Please understand both organizations were way under pressure to do this. DCI did not give us proper time to prepare, and if any of you march DCI, than you know you spend your time practicing what's important. Please know that both organizations worked hard, speaking from marching Crossmen the past few years
I'm 57 now and I really miss drum corps. Went to DCI for many years. Drum Corps is so great for teenagers. I was in Emerald Knights from Cedar Rapids Iowa
@@jasenswalley3985 that's awesome, I obviously was too old to be in Nite Express. I remember hearing about them. They brought back Tournament of Drums too, of the Emerald Knights and Nite Express alumni have a group going for exhibition.
The surf did a great job and they are a newer corps on the east coast where it seems it's sometimes harder to attract talented players, but man it was a real joy watching the Crossman. Their tenor drums are nearly perfect. Very precise and very classy line.
+Andrew Tatusko Absolutely no contest. Jersey Serf were physically out of sync with each other and had terrible form. Crossmen were crisp, focused, incredibly technically sound, and their rhythms were simply more complex. They were absolutely robbed.
+Kerry Ward I know neither lines, but coming from a drumline myself, I believe the crossmen outplayed (and quite frankly outclassed) the Jersey Surf. I thought the Surf were playing warm up drills at first. Also, Surf dropped their sticks after playing? No manners whatsoever. But that's just my opinon
Saw the same battle in the GA dome and Surf won there too. I was ticked! I couldn't believe it. Crossmen weren't perfect, but were SOOOOOO much cleaner!
I was disappointed in crossmen, seemed as though they didn't put as much effort in their playing. Clean style don't win the challenge, it also the playing and choreography effort. Crossmen put too much effort in dress and not enough in choreography.
These judges need to get their eyes and ears checked . . . Crossmen was far cleaner and more impressive. Jersey sounded like they were practicing warm-ups for most of the battle.
Like I said, the judges need to get their eyes and ears checked, that's what it says about Crossmen. Watch it again and be honest, if you know anything about marching drumlins you can tell w/out much effort which line is better.
I've marched for years as well and I also instruct. Not diminishing or disrespecting your comments or experience, I just believe Crossmen's showing was far better than J Surf. Crossmen's material was more impressive imo.
Although this is a great display of percussion by both lines, the Crossmen clearly win. However, Jersey Surf do not let that EVER stop you from challenging the bigger corps.
It was my pleasure to watch Crossman perform at the Seattle Summer Music Games (a DCI sponsored event) for the first time live. A fantastic performance, polished, great sounds and visuals. Look forward to their return to the Pacific Northwest in the future (hopefully, not every 7 years, which seems to be the case).
trumkey3 I was in a start up corps here in San Antonio called the Alamo Marksmen and the Crossmen were one of the feature corps in 1980. Back in the day and I still have that program.
Erick Veloz I saw no face made. I think you are just trying to not look like you don't know what you are talking about. Anyone who does know what they are talking about can see they were splitting notes across the snareline. It's pretty obvious when they start on the opposite side and play notes one by one down to his side. Not hard to figure out.
Drumline battles aren't meant to asses clarity and precision. That's what their shows are for. Drumline battles are for show. There is a reason there are a ton of people watching. Yes it has to be clean but you want a group that the crowd loves.
Crossmen should have won because they were cleaner and didn’t start off with warm ups that a high school would play and they didn’t drop a cymbal either. 4:43
The Crossmen blew the Jersey Surf away. The drumming accuracy was higher, the marching more challenging and complex, and even the cymbals players threw in flash waves for visual effect. A _lot_ higher caliber performance.
And some movie theaters around the country are broadcasting some of the competitions live. It's pretty cool to watch that way if you can't make it live...but I would suggest trying to make a live show.
Bragging rights goes to BOTH bands in this competition . Lots of work and practice went into the performance . And it would be great to see the names of both bands involved listed in the Credits . Something those young men & woman could keep and show to their grandchildren in the future and say this was me way back when .
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Crossmen were so much tighter and in my opinion should have won. Jersey started with 8ths, ....really?! Jersey was definately more showboatey and I think thats the reason they won because their snares sounded horribly tuned and dirty. P.S. Who ever is in charge of Jersey Surf's wardrobe.... FAIL!
Crossmen had their fair share of dirt in the snareline. The tenors did seem way tighter, but I liked the bassline on jersey better. Ultimately I agree with the judges' decision.
Wow!!! Awesome stuff...truly worthy of the longstanding tradition of tribal percussion originating around Nigeria hundreds (or thousands) of years ago. These guys could be from Africa...they're so good. "'What is your name?" "I Told You It's... "IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT YOUR NAME IS !!!"
How did the quad of FOUR toms turn into SIX?? Love those noisy hats! If band stuff wasn't so HIDEOUSLY expensive (and I have three full drum kits) I'd have a whole set of it!
i think they might be building up to it. seems like they are starting with the lower tiered corps and then building up as the season goes. i think this is the first season this is going around, so i think they are trying to start something. i could be wrong. this is the first season im actually following day by day. lol.
Back in the day I was a snare drummer, but for me, it's the medodic basses that kill me. I love how creative the bass parts are. They aren't just a metronome, to me they are the backbone of the piece. Without them, the piece would be empty and boring. Love it! Listen to this without watching it and you'll see what I mean.
I haven't really seen enough of this drumline battle stuff to judge but imagine Vanguard's drum line against Bluecoats drumline or something like that. That would be a show to watch.
Jersey's uniforms with the black hats are really cool. Best I have seen in high school. Difficult to choose which played better, each has a distinct sound.
Hey guys, tall crossmen snare drummer standing next to center here, and we appreciate all the awesome comments! Please understand both organizations were way under pressure to do this. DCI did not give us proper time to prepare, and if any of you march DCI, than you know you spend your time practicing what's important. Please know that both organizations worked hard, speaking from marching Crossmen the past few years
I'm 57 now and I really miss drum corps. Went to DCI for many years. Drum Corps is so great for teenagers. I was in Emerald Knights from Cedar Rapids Iowa
I'm so happy you guys won 🏆
@@lorilxn1597 42 and was in Nite Express. :)
@@jasenswalley3985 that's awesome, I obviously was too old to be in Nite Express. I remember hearing about them. They brought back Tournament of Drums too, of the Emerald Knights and Nite Express alumni have a group going for exhibition.
That cymbal visual at 5:13 was just spot on...
The surf did a great job and they are a newer corps on the east coast where it seems it's sometimes harder to attract talented players, but man it was a real joy watching the Crossman. Their tenor drums are nearly perfect. Very precise and very classy line.
what are the multiple drum players playing, timpani perhaps ?
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Crossmen. Cleaner and more complicated figures. No brainer.
+Andrew Tatusko I agree! More fluent body formations and movement too in their first passage. Was surprised of result!
+Andrew Tatusko Agreed.
+Andrew Tatusko more so they were in sych the whole time Jersey was out of step with each other if you noticed that.
+Andrew Tatusko Absolutely no contest. Jersey Serf were physically out of sync with each other and had terrible form. Crossmen were crisp, focused, incredibly technically sound, and their rhythms were simply more complex. They were absolutely robbed.
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even though the crossmen from san antonio lost they still represented our great state of TEXAS very well ! better luck in the future guys !
+Kerry Ward I know neither lines, but coming from a drumline myself, I believe the crossmen outplayed (and quite frankly outclassed) the Jersey Surf. I thought the Surf were playing warm up drills at first. Also, Surf dropped their sticks after playing? No manners whatsoever. But that's just my opinon
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Jersey Surf sound like a normal warm-up....
Billionare Boy dont matter tbh honest, it sounded so good, it was different
Jersey Surf wasn't too bad, but I liked Crossmen much more
4:44 girl on left of screen drops cymbal. lol
YES! argghh!!
that should be at least.... at least a major tick against....
Saw the same battle in the GA dome and Surf won there too. I was ticked! I couldn't believe it. Crossmen weren't perfect, but were SOOOOOO much cleaner!
I was disappointed in crossmen, seemed as though they didn't put as much effort in their playing. Clean style don't win the challenge, it also the playing and choreography effort. Crossmen put too much effort in dress and not enough in choreography.
These judges need to get their eyes and ears checked . . . Crossmen was far cleaner and more impressive. Jersey sounded like they were practicing warm-ups for most of the battle.
if Jersey Surf can beat them with a warm up, what does that say about Crossmen?
Like I said, the judges need to get their eyes and ears checked, that's what it says about Crossmen. Watch it again and be honest, if you know anything about marching drumlins you can tell w/out much effort which line is better.
I marched on a drumline for 6 years
I've marched for years as well and I also instruct. Not diminishing or disrespecting your comments or experience, I just believe Crossmen's showing was far better than J Surf. Crossmen's material was more impressive imo.
Thank god someone else was thinking that: they literally played eights!
Crossmen sounded like they were playing show music and jersey sounded like they were playing warm ups...
Both of them were outstanding. I’ve never seen or heard this before.
Congrats Surf. I love you guys and am happy to see you found some judges who realize how good you are.
Although this is a great display of percussion by both lines, the Crossmen clearly win. However, Jersey Surf do not let that EVER stop you from challenging the bigger corps.
Nah. I think The Crossmen won this one. Cleaner, more articulate...
I remember when drumlines used to play cool cadences with grooves.
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Crossmen did better, The tone of JS's snares makes me uneasy whereas crossmen have theirs perfect
Exactly what I was thinking.
I know nothing about percussion, and I thought that too.
12345timm thank god i wasn't the only one. the JS snares made me want to vomit lol
💯 agree
Agreed
Silly me I thought we could just look at the scores at semifinals and determine which drum lines were cleaner.
OMG, how do you decide???!! Phenomenal!!!
NJ's uniforms were designed by someone on LSD.
Hahaha
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A pied piper.
In 1969.
It was my pleasure to watch Crossman perform at the Seattle Summer Music Games (a DCI sponsored event) for the first time live. A fantastic performance, polished, great sounds and visuals. Look forward to their return to the Pacific Northwest in the future (hopefully, not every 7 years, which seems to be the case).
trumkey3 I was in a start up corps here in San Antonio called the Alamo Marksmen and the Crossmen were one of the feature corps in 1980. Back in the day and I still have that program.
I wish my school hyped our drum offs up this much 😂😂
Crossmen demolished them. Do the Judges have ears???
10000000%
I love Crossmen's cymbals!
They were beautiful and interesting
at 4:26,
the snare from jersey surf closest to the camera, messed up and couldn't find a way back in until the end.
Not actually. Watch the whole snare line. That are splitting notes like a bass line would do.
his facial expression says something different.
Erick Veloz
I saw no face made. I think you are just trying to not look like you don't know what you are talking about. Anyone who does know what they are talking about can see they were splitting notes across the snareline. It's pretty obvious when they start on the opposite side and play notes one by one down to his side. Not hard to figure out.
alright,
whatever you say.
I will surrender since this fight is pointless.
I still think Crossmen should have won though.
Yeah...sorry if I sounded like a jerk. Reading it again I definitely did. I agree, it was all crossmen.
Great performance both! Wht alwayss have to win someone?
Good lord!!! - Thats hard work and dedication right there!
I found myself bobbing my head to the Crossmen's steps.
this is the best battle i ever heard and saw as well
Drumline battles aren't meant to asses clarity and precision. That's what their shows are for. Drumline battles are for show. There is a reason there are a ton of people watching. Yes it has to be clean but you want a group that the crowd loves.
Crossmen should have won because they were cleaner and didn’t start off with warm ups that a high school would play and they didn’t drop a cymbal either. 4:43
The Crossmen blew the Jersey Surf away. The drumming accuracy was higher, the marching more challenging and complex, and even the cymbals players threw in flash waves for visual effect. A _lot_ higher caliber performance.
I saw quite a bit of upper body movement coming from the tenners while they marked time.
Let me know when they get done warming up and start bringing it haha 😆
From a Brit, you guys know how to put on a drum show!! Wow!
And some movie theaters around the country are broadcasting some of the competitions live. It's pretty cool to watch that way if you can't make it live...but I would suggest trying to make a live show.
Crossmen had it!
I read the title as, "Crossbowmen vs Jersey Shore." I was disappointed.
Bragging rights goes to BOTH bands in this competition . Lots of work and practice went into the performance . And it would be great to see the names of both bands involved listed in the Credits . Something those young men & woman could keep and show to their grandchildren in the future and say this was me way back when .
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Crossmen were so much tighter and in my opinion should have won. Jersey started with 8ths, ....really?! Jersey was definately more showboatey and I think thats the reason they won because their snares sounded horribly tuned and dirty.
P.S. Who ever is in charge of Jersey Surf's wardrobe.... FAIL!
Crossmen had their fair share of dirt in the snareline. The tenors did seem way tighter, but I liked the bassline on jersey better. Ultimately I agree with the judges' decision.
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Crossmen smashed Jersey Surf. Definitely a bad call
+Deez Nuts agreed
Crossmen. No two ways bout it.
Uniform stick height is everything. You gonna be yelled at. At 7 am when all the other kids are still sleeping. Marching band is Life 101.
Stick height is not everything lmaoo
Wow!!!
Awesome stuff...truly worthy of the longstanding tradition of tribal percussion originating around Nigeria hundreds (or thousands) of years ago.
These guys could be from Africa...they're so good.
"'What is your name?"
"I Told You It's...
"IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT YOUR NAME IS !!!"
I think crossmen should have won that battle. They sounded so much better and they look like bad asses with their uniforms
love them all great show guys and girls!
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How did the quad of FOUR toms turn into SIX?? Love those noisy hats!
If band stuff wasn't so HIDEOUSLY expensive (and I have three full drum kits) I'd have a whole set of it!
uasuka well "quad" pretty much says "four," does it not? There didn't used to be six...:)
Im from Texas and its 2024 now. Wonder where you all are now?
Are DCI tounaments ever on TV? And if so approximately when and on what channel?
I met all of em they came to my high school right after their performance of Alamo dome to perform at the berry center here in Houston Tx.
I agree 100 percent, Crossman's Snare line was uniform, everything sounded better tuned, and their body language also showed better discipline.
How were crossmens snares tuned differently?
Yes they are. During the season. So may-August usually ESPN3
i seen a battle between Jersey surf and Crossman live and omg amazing!! I was so close to them and just perfect
This is very old, very fun to watch though!
Yeah, Crossmen, for sure. Better formation, interesting cymbal work, better playing. It was close, but the Crossmen should've won.
Representing the amazing musicianship in NJ!! Go Jersey Surf!!!
Dropping your sticks? What is this, Nick Cannon's movie "Drumline?" Come on, guys.
agreed. and im from Jersey. Crossmen are always clean and never dirty. Crossmen won in my book
I was lokey just watching that movie clip lol
Crossmen no contest. Too much robotchicken in Jersey Surf at the end,lol
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i think they might be building up to it. seems like they are starting with the lower tiered corps and then building up as the season goes. i think this is the first season this is going around, so i think they are trying to start something. i could be wrong. this is the first season im actually following day by day. lol.
Anyone else catch the Jersey Surf cymbal player drop a cymbal when they were done?? JS was just sloppy.
Sorry but which is which?
there clearly using aimbot
lol
They're
Seems like jersey surf doesn't seem to care about keeping in step or matching stick heights...
What kind of snares are they using?
This is beyond talented
bass sounds up. would mic placement help?
What is the crossmens first thing they played called
People are saying that jersey wasn't clean, but they were a hell of a lot better than anything you could get in my high school :P
Crossmen were definetly better...
True.
they were. but drumline battles are judged on hype
just the beginning of the "woke" movement.... and our eyes were shut......
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where's the part where they all start fighting? Like in the movie Drumline...
Can somebody please share a link of the performance that Jersey Surf did to win this battle because clearly it wasn't what I just watched.
I thought the JS was decent until the Crossmen began. Oops. Crossmen took it.
what's a "tall crossman" mean?
This is no drum battle. This some rudimental warm ups by corp style drum line.
Why the horn sounds. Why are they in the background? Guess i dont understand the competition show.
How much do those things weigh?
a lot
Quite a bit.
+christoper puddick depends on sizes of the drums, but they can be very heavy.
one of the jersey surf's crash cymbals was dropped like twice lmao they definitely deserved to win
Crossmen had some really cool visuals, especially for the cymbals.
hornline battles would be absolutely insane
Where is the real part
Wtf !!!!!!!! Where's Devon Miles and the Atlanta A&T drum line ?
They both are very good
Back in the day I was a snare drummer, but for me, it's the medodic basses that kill me. I love how creative the bass parts are. They aren't just a metronome, to me they are the backbone of the piece. Without them, the piece would be empty and boring. Love it! Listen to this without watching it and you'll see what I mean.
As one of the performers that are in this video, I find it interesting to read all these comments.
These two must have influence the creation of the Top Secret Drum Corps
Crossmen way better!
Why do Jersey Surf's uniforms look like a bad nightmare circa 1972?
Selene Raven Their theme was soul music.
I haven't really seen enough of this drumline battle stuff to judge but imagine Vanguard's drum line against Bluecoats drumline or something like that. That would be a show to watch.
SCV?
They started with a warm up?!!? Wtf
Jersey's uniforms with the black hats are really cool. Best I have seen in high school. Difficult to choose which played better, each has a distinct sound.
Really dig the Surf snare sound. Almost sounds like well tuned mylar...
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now the question is... what happenes if you break a stick during this?
we have extra sticks on the side of our snare drum incase that ever happens
The senior bands were awesome... husband and I followed Connecticut Hurricanes...
good the batle n veri nice...i like it...