Hmm I different styles so not judgeable. But stick handling wise sorry I stick to mi Swiss guys. I mean the sticktricks. Beat wise both lines where absolut top
Top Secret straordinari, IMBATTIBILI per precisione, tecnica, dinamica, tempo ed eleganza. I loro tamburi "cantano", gli altri no. TOP SECRET: THE BEST IN THE WORLD.
In Norfolk and didn't invite MDFS to the party..... i think we all know why...... both of these lines together would've been a MILLION DOLLAR buffet.......
They would place terribly low in a DCI comp. 1, they don’t have quads or even a pit. They have no band to play with. They would literally rank dead last.
@@CommentCorrectorI’ve noticed on a lot of these comments you seem very anti Top Secret and I don’t understand why. Are they the best drum line in the world? No. Are they the worst? No. Are they a good, formal drum line? Yes.
That blue drumline really has some messy appearances. Their hair is wild and unkept and none of their pants fit right. Some of them are wearing capris while others are dragging on the ground. Wild
They’re literally college kids lol. Also the uniform situation isn’t their fault. That’s on their school to make sure the band has the funding and resources it needs. Also TS was dirtier than they should’ve been playing the highschool level beats they were playing.
These uniforms have been around since the start of the band program in 2008. With the number of people in the ODU band, it's a given a lot won't be fitted entirely because there's just not enough variety.
My problem with Top Secret Drum corps is that 1 they don’t have a tenor line and I think tenors are cool and 2 they just look like statues or robots when they play, there’s no emotion at all.
The lack of emotion is because they pull their aesthetic from the British military tradition. It's all about precision, and it presents best when they're doing a fully choreographed routine at a tattoo. University drum corps are coming from a performance aesthetic. It's very different, but I find both styles enjoyable.
Outclassed by the best. TS Not as fast, nor crisp as 2010. Don’t poke the bear, ODU. Well done TS. They took our old run for the finale. That’s the tempo I’m used to.
Without wanting to be disrespectful, TS plays on a completely different level compared to ODU, especially when the situation requires it. Here it was definitely not necessary so they took it very lightly compared to their potential. ODU sounds more like a drum line at a carnival. There exists actually a lot of them in Basel for the local carnival. As a fun fact, TS actually recruits its members from the local carnival groups.
Top Secret’s tenor section was still better. Lol I love top secret. Great try Norfolk. Can’t be shakin booty against them though. Top Secret is precision.
Bahaha 😂 I watched top secret in Scotland. I built the new, old dominion bridges, the huge ones, and the bridges in Virginia Beach. That was my bad. I got them mixed together. Watched both of the schools bands while I was there working. Spent four years there.
ODU is all out of step!!!! Cymbals, you’re right up front and on the wrong foot!!!!! Do better, have some section pride and hold yourselves to a higher standard.
ODU has half as many snares, no stick tricks, nowhere near the level of stick height coordination and drums that aren’t tuned as crisply. What you are hearing is effectively the unison of drums tuned to a definite pitch creating overtones
@@gaberobison680 okay but even when top secret wasn’t even playing technical bits they were quite dirty. Yes they look a lot nicer and definitely please the crowd better, but they’re just not as clean as odu. At the end of the day, odu is supposed to SOUND good with a band while ts is meant to LOOK good. Both do those things very well. And tf are you talking about “snares aren’t tuned as crisply”. TS snares were FAT and DRY and ODU’s were tight asf and wet. Someone doesn’t know wtf they’re talking about.
I personally think JSU or Cold Steel can take on TSDC... yes TSDC has a very powerful military precision that has & always defeat any drumline, but JSU or Cold Steel can give em tough time.
Absolutely love how crisp top secret is! You can’t fault either for their craft. It takes time and practice for both. But top secrets uniforms, everything is designed with purpose, just super crisp. Sorry ODU. Yall done good but top secret got it. Just not as crisp.
The Top Secret Drumline looks very slick. I've been watching them for years. The white sticks against black uniforms is awesome, and they make a very traditional uniform look awesome. However, they are more "showy" than clean. I wish I could come across one video of the TSD where they are cleaner than who they "battle". We could say it's a culture thing, but if you are going to battle American drumlines, DCI and college level, you've got to be cleaner. ODU played very well, and they are obviously trained well. It's just a shame those UGLY uniforms take so much of the focus away. I played snare in my university drumline back in the day, so I get tradition uniforms, but COME ON. Those are hideous. They all look like they're wearing high-waters with the pants so high above the shoes like a 1980s nerd. Plus, the white section of the jacket completely drowns out seeing the snares' and tenors' stick movements. The TSD "won" because of politics, a fan favorite. They are known around the world. ODU clearly out played them when it came to difficulty of notes and clarity. (Basically, real drumming). Heck, the "President's Own" U.S. Marine Corps Drum and Bugle Corps drumline plays WAY cleaner than the TSD. I know this is all in fun. It would be a blast to drum on a battleship deck!
@@SISU889 The royal marines don’t play anything 😂 sure, they look badass but they don’t play any notes. They aren’t a true drumline without Basses and quads either. Sorry to break it to you, but they are all for show and tradition. They don’t actually play anything of note. They just sniff their drumsticks
Well we know which quad line was better
Huh? Old Dominion was the only group playing quads.
@@bruschmidt9943 that is the joke
Cymbals dominated no contest
Hmm I different styles so not judgeable. But stick handling wise sorry I stick to mi Swiss guys. I mean the sticktricks. Beat wise both lines where absolut top
@@bruschmidt9943 you indeed have a sense of humor
Awesome. Absolute Monster Drummers from ODU and Top Secret!
Top Secret is impressive as always. What an honor they were here. They are 100 percent squared away. I've watched this drum corps for years.
Top Secret vs NSU is a battle I would love to see
This is why Swiss clockwork is so trustworthy. Every detail is very well thought through.
Agree!
Top Secret was the definite winner! Their precision was extreme and enjoyable to watch
100%
Still dirty.
Isn't it universally known by now not to pick a fight with Top Secret drum corps?
lol top secret ain’t THAT good
😂
@@CommentCorrector ?
@@capsaicinkat7767 ?
@@CommentCorrectorwould you like us to show you again?
Great job by both Drum Lines and shout out to the host from DCI - John DeNovi ;-)
How do you beat that discipline and precision!!! ❤
Wer noch denkt, Top Secret ist nicht gut hat keine Ahnung. Die Besten!
Its nice to see ODU get out the house but Top Secret vs Million Dollar (NSU) would have significantly more epic.
I agree. I was bored watching this. I'm disappointed in ODU. They play stuff i played in high school 20 years ago. I expect more from universities.
@@burdrchitect1680 to be fair, so does top-secret. 🤷🏻♂️
@@burdrchitect1680 highly doubt you were playing SCV’s Double Beat 2004 20 years ago.
They all have different styles, so I give love to both ❤ they learned top secrets beat
WHEN ARE YOU GONNA POST THE DCI 2023 DRUMLINE BATTLE I’M IN THAT ONE
Good sports , great drummers… rock on
Love the Top Secret Corps!!!
Let’s hear it for the ODU Drumline!
Props to whoever wrote those ODU parts, wow!!
Yep. Shout out to SCV- Santa Clara Vanguard. They just played one of their warmup cadences called "Double Beat" - written by Murray Gusseck in 2004.
@@AntonRasmussen yes. ODU did very well considering the talent pool. They stepped up to the plate and played well
@@burdrchitect1680 such a good part
Top Secret has great audience appeal than most American drumlines.
@@jaxsage5767 funniest part is. We are all not from basil Switzerland.
Top Secret straordinari, IMBATTIBILI per precisione, tecnica, dinamica, tempo ed eleganza. I loro tamburi "cantano", gli altri no. TOP SECRET: THE BEST IN THE WORLD.
Top secret know who would make them look like professionals. They'd never try MDF$ ON MY SOUL
Apples to Oranges. Both are fantastic
@@MeshTheSlantOdu snares are not together... MDF$ WOULDN'T LET THAT OUT THE BAND ROOM
No SECRET there 🤣🤣🤣
First battle was fire🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Both are very good!
Top Secret is top tier but ODU did not disappoint!
Top secret with no mistake. Always perfection! ❤
No mistake? 8:31
Way to go ODU .
One does not “battle” Top Secret. You jam with them for a bit and hope you don’t embarrass yourself.
That.
Top secret is the best!
Não tem comparação, top secret amassa eles ✌️✌️
In Norfolk and didn't invite MDFS to the party..... i think we all know why...... both of these lines together would've been a MILLION DOLLAR buffet.......
Top Secret Drum Corps are, and will always be, #1.
Nah there are better than both of these lines
Top Secret the best.
Eh
Top secret 💥💥💥💥💥
Now we know why TSDC are the best, even when one drops a stick at 8.32 the guy never missed a beat.
You vs the guy she tells you not to worry about.
Top Secret is insanely good.
Let's Go Monarchs!
The Top secret drum corp is the only reason to be proud to be European 🔝 🥁
Please. I hope you are kidding.
holy feet timing
No body can take on the top secret durmline like to see them at dci finals
They would place terribly low in a DCI comp. 1, they don’t have quads or even a pit. They have no band to play with. They would literally rank dead last.
@@CommentCorrectorI’ve noticed on a lot of these comments you seem very anti Top Secret and I don’t understand why. Are they the best drum line in the world? No. Are they the worst? No. Are they a good, formal drum line? Yes.
@@RichardWise-cm9ii they don’t belong in DCI finals without a supporting Band. We are just a tattoo drumline.
that dude in the cener for OD look at man's pants lol
What about them
I listen to all the O.D.U. Drummers battling against the base drums of T. S.and what seems to be one snare of T.S.
OD's white uniform top fronts really detract from the stickwork with white sticks. Top Secrets stand out with their blacks
SCV is still cleaner I think
WAYYY BETTTER
That blue drumline really has some messy appearances. Their hair is wild and unkept and none of their pants fit right. Some of them are wearing capris while others are dragging on the ground. Wild
They’re literally college kids lol. Also the uniform situation isn’t their fault. That’s on their school to make sure the band has the funding and resources it needs. Also TS was dirtier than they should’ve been playing the highschool level beats they were playing.
These uniforms have been around since the start of the band program in 2008. With the number of people in the ODU band, it's a given a lot won't be fitted entirely because there's just not enough variety.
Low tension tuning makes me want to scream violently.
My problem with Top Secret Drum corps is that 1 they don’t have a tenor line and I think tenors are cool and 2 they just look like statues or robots when they play, there’s no emotion at all.
The lack of emotion is because they pull their aesthetic from the British military tradition. It's all about precision, and it presents best when they're doing a fully choreographed routine at a tattoo. University drum corps are coming from a performance aesthetic.
It's very different, but I find both styles enjoyable.
Aficionados vs Profesionales
Top Secret Drum Corps nunca defrauda. Precisión y sincronía extremas, sobrehumanas.
Top secret should've battled the Norfolk State Million Dollar Funk Squad drumlins instead of old dominion
Top Secret drum corp , by a Country mile ! Hope the others learned something from them .....
top secret appears on some rusty can, strange choice
Outclassed by the best. TS Not as fast, nor crisp as 2010. Don’t poke the bear, ODU. Well done TS. They took our old run for the finale. That’s the tempo I’m used to.
❤
What was odu thinking messing with Top Secret if they didn't know they do now
Without wanting to be disrespectful, TS plays on a completely different level compared to ODU, especially when the situation requires it. Here it was definitely not necessary so they took it very lightly compared to their potential. ODU sounds more like a drum line at a carnival. There exists actually a lot of them in Basel for the local carnival. As a fun fact, TS actually recruits its members from the local carnival groups.
Top Secret’s tenor section was still better. Lol I love top secret. Great try Norfolk. Can’t be shakin booty against them though. Top Secret is precision.
Top secret does not have a tenor line 😂
Correction...Great Try ODU....most certainly NOT Norfolk (NSU - MDFS)
Bahaha 😂 I watched top secret in Scotland. I built the new, old dominion bridges, the huge ones, and the bridges in Virginia Beach. That was my bad. I got them mixed together. Watched both of the schools bands while I was there working. Spent four years there.
Dam that was a beat dawn😂😂Haha they should know better then to try and outdo these guys there just to good😂😂😂😂
ODU is all out of step!!!! Cymbals, you’re right up front and on the wrong foot!!!!! Do better, have some section pride and hold yourselves to a higher standard.
It was obvious Top Secret took it easy on ODU..
Top secret defo the clearer players. Be good for them both to work together
Am I the only one that thought that ODU snares were cleaner?
oh by a long shot for sure, there was a bunch of dirt in top secrets line lol
ODU has half as many snares, no stick tricks, nowhere near the level of stick height coordination and drums that aren’t tuned as crisply. What you are hearing is effectively the unison of drums tuned to a definite pitch creating overtones
@@gaberobison680 okay but even when top secret wasn’t even playing technical bits they were quite dirty. Yes they look a lot nicer and definitely please the crowd better, but they’re just not as clean as odu. At the end of the day, odu is supposed to SOUND good with a band while ts is meant to LOOK good. Both do those things very well. And tf are you talking about “snares aren’t tuned as crisply”. TS snares were FAT and DRY and ODU’s were tight asf and wet. Someone doesn’t know wtf they’re talking about.
I personally think JSU or Cold Steel can take on TSDC... yes TSDC has a very powerful military precision that has & always defeat any drumline, but JSU or Cold Steel can give em tough time.
Top secret needs to switch to pearl, get a tenor line, and one more bass for 5 basses. And they will elevate
They stick with old traditions. They won't be altering their style.
I'm pretty sure I've seen video of them with 5 basses
Absolutely love how crisp top secret is! You can’t fault either for their craft. It takes time and practice for both. But top secrets uniforms, everything is designed with purpose, just super crisp. Sorry ODU. Yall done good but top secret got it. Just not as crisp.
university was typical flop we see at universities. Good job Top secret.
Norfolk State University should've represented Norfolk against Top Secret
Dont you love it when you play a clean book and it's not insanely difficult! Maybe ODU's Scum line forgot that playing clean was the objective
I'm surprised TS was even involved in that...must have been for a good cause.
old dominion wins on shakos alone, no concept of time , but who cares when ya got classic headgear
Old dominan won
Always with those quad drums for Americans, they sound awful.
They sound awful if they are tuned awful like here. Type in “SCV Drumline” and you’ll hear what god intended quads to sound like.
It looks a bit silly . Carnival corps vs the best in the world. 😅😅 top secret drum corps
The Top Secret Drumline looks very slick. I've been watching them for years. The white sticks against black uniforms is awesome, and they make a very traditional uniform look awesome. However, they are more "showy" than clean. I wish I could come across one video of the TSD where they are cleaner than who they "battle". We could say it's a culture thing, but if you are going to battle American drumlines, DCI and college level, you've got to be cleaner.
ODU played very well, and they are obviously trained well. It's just a shame those UGLY uniforms take so much of the focus away. I played snare in my university drumline back in the day, so I get tradition uniforms, but COME ON. Those are hideous. They all look like they're wearing high-waters with the pants so high above the shoes like a 1980s nerd. Plus, the white section of the jacket completely drowns out seeing the snares' and tenors' stick movements.
The TSD "won" because of politics, a fan favorite. They are known around the world. ODU clearly out played them when it came to difficulty of notes and clarity. (Basically, real drumming). Heck, the "President's Own" U.S. Marine Corps Drum and Bugle Corps drumline plays WAY cleaner than the TSD.
I know this is all in fun. It would be a blast to drum on a battleship deck!
what do u mean with, heck the Marine corps plays way cleaner, .
ODU gets new uniforms next year!
That ODU is so boring af.
Secret drum corps is grabage
No secret...TOP SECRET rules all over the World...
They don’t 😂
If the Royal Marine drum Corp respects Top Secret Drum corp , then you know they are the best ! Good effort though ....
@@SISU889 The royal marines don’t play anything 😂 sure, they look badass but they don’t play any notes. They aren’t a true drumline without Basses and quads either. Sorry to break it to you, but they are all for show and tradition. They don’t actually play anything of note. They just sniff their drumsticks
@@CommentCorrector 😆 🤣 You clearly don't know anything !
@@SISU889 then tell me what you know 😂