Manilla was the straw that broke the camel's back , that heat that intensity that punishment at that stage of their careers ruined them both completely , god bless them both RIP 🙏
I have been to Manila twice. The Philippines is like Florida on steroids regarding the heat and humidity. I also almost passed out for walking around Manila for too long. I don't know how Ali and Frazier survived that fight.
Here you hear the principle of marketing from Muhammad Ali: "I'm intellect but I talk small to reach people to buy tickets" He knows people's point of view
You can clearly hear between his 1975 unofficial press conference and other press conference a year later that the attrition Alisuffered at the hands of Joe Frazier in the Manila fight slurred his speech and slowed it down. He never should've fought after that as much as I love the guy
What you say means nothing really cause, the 3rd fight frazier took more punishment than the first two and it was called off in the 14th, so you can say slower speech, along with quicker and stronger hands
jamil hall Thanks for stating the obvious Jamil and about your last comment: " slower speech, quicker and stronger hands" = that's probably the most idiotic comment I've read in a long time and here's why: when Ali came back from exile, his speed and agility had greatly diminished from the layoff. To compensate, he resorted to his durability instead of eluding the punches. By the time of the Manila fight, Ali was battling arthritic pain to his hands and frequently needed to ice them. Right there, that slows you down and weakens you. Number three when cognitive functions are impaired, such as slurred and slowed speech, your physical speed does not increase; in fact it decreases as well such as the rest of your motor skills. Anyone who reads even a little on exercise and sports science knows those facts. Finally before your pride gets the best of you and you feel compelled to retort with another reply which makes absolutely no sense, go on the UA-cam search engine, and type" HBO THRILLA IN MANILA DOCUMENTARY" and listen to what Ali's doctor, Ferdie Pacheco, has to say about Ali's condition following the outcome of the Manila fight. Pacheco left Ali's camp in 1977 after writing letters to Ali, Angelo Dundee, heck everybody, imploring Ali to retire. I won't be commenting to any further comments of yours unless they are logical and thoughtful.
Mike Walsh And where did you get your information from out of curiosity? Because according to his daughter, Ali can't remember his last world title and his son, Muhammad Ali jr, says it's only a matter of time before his father forgets him completely so it goes beyond impared motors skill. Google it, it's information easy to find.
Ali's doctor, Pacheco claims he noticed some signs of this condition way before the Frazier fights. Even before the first Frazier fight. 1970 I believe when he noticed this change. Ali's condition isn't necessarily atributed to boxing, of course it doesn't help it in any way either. But Ali most likely would developed this condition even if he wasn't a boxer, just not as soon as he did.
Let's not forget that not only did Ali take a lot of punches in actual fights during the 1970s, but he also took loads of shots in sparring during that period. I remember Cus D'Amato's words of alarm when he saw Ali sparring in Atlanta for the first Quarry fight (1970) and was surprised to see Ali lying against the ropes. You didn't have to be a doctor to see what was happening to him. In fact, Dr. Ferdie Pacheco stated that medical tests could not determine whether a fighter was shot.
CHAMPION CHAMPSET Allah swt tests us all. His wisdom is far greater than any understanding we possess. We trust in Allah swt for he is the king of kings.
To me, he was the greatest Champion of all! Not always the best boxer, not always the best person either! Him self admits it time to time! I honestly believe George Foremen was drugged in his fight with Ali! Foreman had no losses in his career, he beat 3 of the 4 boxers Ali have lost fights with very easy! They say its style matching but Frazier also had the same style and he knocked down Ali! Foreman was bigger and stronger! However, none of them would ever be the greatest Champ he was!!
gregjordan38 I think that who said that was a resigned religious Foreman that has nothing to gain by insisting in telling people about that without proof!! But, in those days this kind of stuff was very common in all kind of sports!! Im not buying it!! George Foreman, destroyed 3 of the most hardest fighters of the time in 4 rounds! Fighters that Ali would need all 12 or 15 rounds to win, many times by jury decision!! If you study a bit their carrer wins and loses, you'll see this doesn't make sense!!
because he was rounded by people who want exploit his money and fame so he had to keep figting to save money for himself. actually it is way sad story, all people have witnessed that a super star lost his health to satisfy someone 😢
He was addicted to the adoration of the people and needed money. He had so many kids and ex-wives, plus his yes men kept encouraging him. They didn't give a damn about his well-being. Only his doctor did and he ignored him.
ANGELO!!! that dude is Funny..he and Pacheco the doctor...they had me dying on their commentary on Rumble in the Jungle...you couldn't tell from looking at him but he's as big a personality as Ali.
If we had UA-cam back then we might speculated he got cloned in 1976. He seemed to start getting really old around 76’. Probably just the onset of Parkinson disease..Surprising the change in his look and demenour. He didn’t have that menace about him in 76’ that had just the previous year. Could have also gotten drugged...
Allaah is greatest (of all time), (i'm not greatest), (Allaah is the Greatest), i mean i only boxer, in Islamic religion we have to say Allaahu Akbar "Allaah o akbar" Allaahu Akbar mean God is the Greatest, so i'm not God, (i'm not the greatest of all time), i'm just great in the sport of boxer.
@michaelyouth Ali had 19 more pro fights than Frazier, many of them WAY past his prime. And look, Ali's voice was slurred as early as '76. That's not age. I'm 37 now and I sound the same as when I was in high school. By '80 when he fought Holmes he sounded terrible. They knew even back then something was wrong. It might not have been Parkinson's at that point, but there was no doubt he had suffered damage at that point. That's why his last fight was in the Bahamas.
his speech and health deteriorated already after thrilla in manila, he was nothing but a shadow of his peak , however somehow he defeated ernie shavers,ken norton ( I know it was controversial but also ken norton couldnt beat Ali convincingly as did in first fight, so in my humble opinion third match should have declared as draw but they didnt do it). What a man.
@michaelyouth None of the guys you just mentioned ever took the sustained heavy punishment in as many fights as Ali. Norton, Holmes, Shavers, Frazier, all those guys were KOd in fights, which is to say they obviously couldn't take punches as well as Ali. As washed up as he was in '77 watch that fight and see how well he was able to take Shaver's shots. The watch a prime Holmes struggle to regain his feet after being dropped by Shavers, who many think to be the hardest puncher in boxing history
I think the words of the late Floyd Patterson summed it up: "Of all the heavyweights ever, he was the best at taking a punch. And he took shots for a long time. When he lost his legs, he lost his defense. He's been hit in the ring for twenty years, my God. The brain slaps up against the skull and it causes scar tissue. That scar tissue makes your brain not work. Common sense tells you it's obvious what's wrong."
cos brothas got it HANGIN'. It was going down the front of his leg and the helmet was getting pressed between knee and trouser everytime he took a step!
@michaelyouth Can I say without a doubt that Parkinson's was brought on from boxing? No. But I can say he suffered brain damage because of his unhuman ability to take a punch. Other guys would take a few of those frazier hooks and be down for the count. Ali took countless and was only dropped once by Frazier at the end of a brutal fight. He took a great shot, but as a result his brain got scrambled a bit too. It's unavoidable.
@bandit7498 No I understand what you mean. I mean it's nonsense to say he did not take many shots. But I meant, relatively speaken. Of course Ali took severe punishment in the Norton, Frazier fights and also in the later fights, with Shavers, Holmes, Young etc. But I think there are boxers who took more blows to the head than Ali did, not just Frazie, and they're doing fine. So I don't know if boxing gave Ali Parkinson.
Ali Wanted This Fight To Be In Manilla To Get Quality Time Away From His Wife Belinda To Commit Adultery With A Women Named Veronica Porsh And He Did Commit Adultery With Her!!!
@85MarkusP And why is that so? Just try to be as specific as you can .. It could be kind of cool to hear at least a good summary of why Hinduisme is the true religion ...
@michaelyouth And I'm not the only one he thinks he had the best chin. Go back and watch some of the shots he got hit with, punches that would have hospitalized most men. And just be cause he got dropped doesn't mean his chin failed him. Frazier dropped him in the 15th AFTER Ali had suffered major punishment. Yet he was up by the count of 2. Shavers caught Ali FLUSH on the chin with a shot that should have killed him and all Ali did was play possum. No heavyweight ever took shots like that.
@michaelyouth Not true huh. Tell you what. Go check out some of Ali's chatter from anything from the Foreman fight or earlier. Then listen to him talk from '76 and later and tell me his voice doesn't sound different. I'm not going to say it was Parkinson's at that point, but it was clear that damage had been done. Ali was the greatest, but no man can take the punishment he did and not suffer some sort of damage. He had the best chin in history, but that chin cost him down the road.
@michaelyouth And how do you figure Frazier is doing fine? Frazier is all kinds of fucked up too, albeit not as bad as Ali. The difference was Frazier didn't fight too many big punchers. He's been criticized for that. Foreman was the only big puncher I can really think of and look how well that worked out for him. He got KOd in the 2nd in their first fight. Frazier could not take the big shots like Ali could and that's a fact. Also Frazier quit at the right time. Ali didn't.
@michaelyouth Dude, I'm not trying to insult you, but you're just not being realistic. To say he didn't take that many shots, I just can't believe anyone would say that when you can view all his fights right here on youtube. In his youth he was very hard to hit cleanly. In his prime he was damn near impossible to hit. When he came back in '70 he was not the same and he got hit, A LOT! Matter of fact he once prided himself on his defense. In the '70s he bragged about how well he could take it.
@riffi15 salaam bro.. Arabic word for bible or GOSPELS is INJEEL brought upon to isa alayhis salaam...... THE ZABUR are the Psalms brought upon to Musa alayhis salaam. And torah was brought upon to dawud alayhis salaam.... No religion is bad bro..... its the people who make it corrupt the books are never corrupt.
lolz think small to get teh people what they want. i don't think deep at press conference, man desires to know what he doesn't,-Ali, sometimes even fears it. -me
@dibosh80 Sorry ..but I have read the Quran ..and its NOT very similar to the Bible ..The Bible preaches of love and DOING it ..not about love and retalliation like the Quran does ...The Bible says : Love your enemies ..The Quran says without much ado : Slay your enemies ...Where is the likeness? ...It merely looks that the Quran copied some parts of the Mosaic law, and that is about it where we can refer to any likeness ..besides that, the Bible maintains much higher wisdom in no retalliation..
and yeah people who say the bible is corrupt and quran is real or vice-versa..... let me tell you a thing you may laugh at me for this but islamic history says that there were 4 or three books brought upon the prophets namely ,,,,,, BIBLE, TORAH AND QURAN...... sorry for gettin involved again.... live and let live
@arlington33able Muslims like to glorify God. Man gets complaisant when he forget about God. Saying Allahu Akbar is a simple phrase among many that Muslims use to glorify God. The idea is if you have faith in God then it will manifest in your speech and actions. So it is no surprise that muslims say Allahu Akbar to remember God's greatness. Hope that helps.
@MrWrjs When muslims refer to Allah, its the same being you refer to as the father, "God". In other words, you and Muhmmad Ali are talking about the same being, God, unless you think the son "Jesus" is greater than the "Father", God.
The difference in his speech from pre-Manila to a year later is stunning.
Yeah its hard to watch I stopped a minute in to comment this and im not going back.
Thats what neurological damage from repetitive punches to the head does to ya
This fight damaged Ali greatly and the Shavers fight was just as bad.....then, Holmes....awful....
@@lordburlap4514 Don;t underestimate the damage Spinks did to him in their first fight. Ali took a lot of hard shots to the head in that fight.
swami 7774 True.....and in sparring...
RIP Mr. Ali. One of the greatest boxers and some of the greatest mic skills ever!
Just not gonna acknowledge frazier smh
I will not miss boxing
Boxing will miss me
Mohammad Ali
Once in a lifetime individual, he will be missed. RIP champ...gone but never forgotten.
Manilla was the straw that broke the camel's back , that heat that intensity that punishment at that stage of their careers ruined them both completely , god bless them both RIP 🙏
Not so much frazier as much as ali
I have been to Manila twice. The Philippines is like Florida on steroids regarding the heat and humidity. I also almost passed out for walking around Manila for too long. I don't know how Ali and Frazier survived that fight.
@@syedmasood6454Man what? Did you ever listen to Frazier talk after Manila? There’s a reason he only had two more fights afterwards.
Here you hear the principle of marketing from Muhammad Ali:
"I'm intellect but I talk small to reach people to buy tickets"
He knows people's point of view
1976 - He was starting to deteriorate...
Even in 76 u could tell his speech was slowing down....they both took a beating in manila which really ended their careers as elite champions
right something is WRONG HERE the speech......... amazes me this is 1976!!!!!
Am I the only one to realise this? Ali was a PR genius
Ali? Never heard of him.
Little did The Greatest Heavyweight of ALL Time realize what was to await him in Manilla...
You can clearly hear between his 1975 unofficial press conference and other press conference a year later that the attrition Alisuffered at the hands of Joe Frazier in the Manila fight slurred his speech and slowed it down. He never should've fought after that as much as I love the guy
What you say means nothing really cause, the 3rd fight frazier took more punishment than the first two and it was called off in the 14th, so you can say slower speech, along with quicker and stronger hands
jamil hall Thanks for stating the obvious Jamil and about your last comment: " slower speech, quicker and stronger hands" = that's probably the most idiotic comment I've read in a long time and here's why: when Ali came back from exile, his speed and agility had greatly diminished from the layoff. To compensate, he resorted to his durability instead of eluding the punches. By the time of the Manila fight, Ali was battling arthritic pain to his hands and frequently needed to ice them. Right there, that slows you down and weakens you. Number three when cognitive functions are impaired, such as slurred and slowed speech, your physical speed does not increase; in fact it decreases as well such as the rest of your motor skills. Anyone who reads even a little on exercise and sports science knows those facts. Finally before your pride gets the best of you and you feel compelled to retort with another reply which makes absolutely no sense, go on the UA-cam search engine, and type" HBO THRILLA IN MANILA DOCUMENTARY" and listen to what Ali's doctor, Ferdie Pacheco, has to say about Ali's condition following the outcome of the Manila fight. Pacheco left Ali's camp in 1977 after writing letters to Ali, Angelo Dundee, heck everybody, imploring Ali to retire. I won't be commenting to any further comments of yours unless they are logical and thoughtful.
George Young He had parkinson's, didn't have anything to do with boxing. His brain function is 100%, he simply has impaired motor skills.
Mike Walsh And where did you get your information from out of curiosity? Because according to his daughter, Ali can't remember his last world title and his son, Muhammad Ali jr, says it's only a matter of time before his father forgets him completely so it goes beyond impared motors skill. Google it, it's information easy to find.
Ali's doctor, Pacheco claims he noticed some signs of this condition way before the Frazier fights. Even before the first Frazier fight. 1970 I believe when he noticed this change. Ali's condition isn't necessarily atributed to boxing, of course it doesn't help it in any way either. But Ali most likely would developed this condition even if he wasn't a boxer, just not as soon as he did.
Let's not forget that not only did Ali take a lot of punches in actual fights during the 1970s, but he also took loads of shots in sparring during that period. I remember Cus D'Amato's words of alarm when he saw Ali sparring in Atlanta for the first Quarry fight (1970) and was surprised to see Ali lying against the ropes. You didn't have to be a doctor to see what was happening to him. In fact, Dr. Ferdie Pacheco stated that medical tests could not determine whether a fighter was shot.
Miss u champ🌹🌹🌹🌹
Just love how he emphasised Islam at every opportunity. No wonder Allah rewarded him and made him successful and granted him Jannah in the after life!
bava 46 Only Allah decides whether he is in heaven or hell
Why did allah take away his ability to speak? He could have helped so many people and give out so much wisdom to the world but no allah muted him
CHAMPION CHAMPSET Allah swt tests us all. His wisdom is far greater than any understanding we possess. We trust in Allah swt for he is the king of kings.
What a legend
Everyone dressed so nicely then, now...
Is the best boxer and best person
To me, he was the greatest Champion of all! Not always the best boxer, not always the best person either! Him self admits it time to time! I honestly believe George Foremen was drugged in his fight with Ali! Foreman had no losses in his career, he beat 3 of the 4 boxers Ali have lost fights with very easy! They say its style matching but Frazier also had the same style and he knocked down Ali! Foreman was bigger and stronger! However, none of them would ever be the greatest Champ he was!!
Bruno InSight Foreman himself has stated he was not drugged. Admitted that the better man won
gregjordan38
I think that who said that was a resigned religious Foreman that has nothing to gain by insisting in telling people about that without proof!! But, in those days this kind of stuff was very common in all kind of sports!! Im not buying it!! George Foreman, destroyed 3 of the most hardest fighters of the time in 4 rounds! Fighters that Ali would need all 12 or 15 rounds to win, many times by jury decision!! If you study a bit their carrer wins and loses, you'll see this doesn't make sense!!
Bruno InSight your moving the goalposts to suit your opinion. Foreman admitted he was beaten fair and square. That's that
gregjordan38 What goalposts am i moving?!! I really dont think so!! But, i'll respect your opinion!!
MY MAN ONE OF KIND
After this fight is when you start seeing the decline in interviews
RIP Muhammad Ali 😰😥😢😓
Im a muslim and proud El7amd lilah wal shokr lillah
God moves and talks through this man ...
You was right ser god is the greatas love you muhamad ali God blees you
@michaelyouth The guy is right. I'm the biggest Ali fan in the world. But as early as '76 you can hear a difference in his speech.
Couldn't agree more!
He was on the decline at 34 how sad
But ali suffured more in manila which is very sad...he should habe retire...
Clearly he is suffering to deliver words... I don't know why he fought after thrilla in manilla.. What did he wanted to prove after that 🐐 🙌
because he was rounded by people who want exploit his money and fame so he had to keep figting to save money for himself. actually it is way sad story, all people have witnessed that a super star lost his health to satisfy someone 😢
He was addicted to the adoration of the people and needed money. He had so many kids and ex-wives, plus his yes men kept encouraging him. They didn't give a damn about his well-being. Only his doctor did and he ignored him.
who the hell is greyson?
no idea ahaha
ANGELO!!! that dude is Funny..he and Pacheco the doctor...they had me dying on their commentary on Rumble in the Jungle...you couldn't tell from looking at him but he's as big a personality as Ali.
What he says at 1:30 contradicts what he was talking about before.
regardless, he's the man
2:01 awkward ball scratch
I still can't believe he's gone 😪 rip ali
greysons the reason why im here watching this
Shut it
2:00 that guy scratching his balls lol
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One of his staff said, this thrilla in manila start of slowing of muhammad ali and the symptoms of parkinson
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,ole Ali was caught up, in my glory,
If we had UA-cam back then we might speculated he got cloned in 1976. He seemed to start getting really old around 76’. Probably just the onset of Parkinson disease..Surprising the change in his look and demenour. He didn’t have that menace about him in 76’ that had just the previous year. Could have also gotten drugged...
One individual I don't care for.
Totally right about moon and mars. Just a greedy world we live in. Now its about the next galaxies out there we're wasting money.
Allaah is greatest (of all time), (i'm not greatest), (Allaah is the Greatest), i mean i only boxer, in Islamic religion we have to say Allaahu Akbar "Allaah o akbar" Allaahu Akbar mean God is the Greatest, so i'm not God, (i'm not the greatest of all time), i'm just great in the sport of boxer.
well he changed!
Allah hu akbar ❤️🤲🏻🤲🏻 Muhammad Ali
RIP
Boxing has a toll on the brain my friend...
In .my glory lo 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
@Yeahitzbop Im not a christian though.
@michaelyouth Ali had 19 more pro fights than Frazier, many of them WAY past his prime. And look, Ali's voice was slurred as early as '76. That's not age. I'm 37 now and I sound the same as when I was in high school. By '80 when he fought Holmes he sounded terrible. They knew even back then something was wrong. It might not have been Parkinson's at that point, but there was no doubt he had suffered damage at that point. That's why his last fight was in the Bahamas.
his speech and health deteriorated already after thrilla in manila, he was nothing but a shadow of his peak , however somehow he defeated ernie shavers,ken norton ( I know it was controversial but also ken norton couldnt beat Ali convincingly as did in first fight, so in my humble opinion third match should have declared as draw but they didnt do it). What a man.
@zzzaaa09900 not just hindu, all religions
in the first clip I thought the dude in the back was a cardboard cutout until he moved
here bc greyson told me to watch this lol
me too ._.
What a sheep you guys are... seriously !!!
Okay fine, I came here because I also saw it in my twitter. I need a life.
greyson brought me here ahha
@michaelyouth None of the guys you just mentioned ever took the sustained heavy punishment in as many fights as Ali. Norton, Holmes, Shavers, Frazier, all those guys were KOd in fights, which is to say they obviously couldn't take punches as well as Ali. As washed up as he was in '77 watch that fight and see how well he was able to take Shaver's shots. The watch a prime Holmes struggle to regain his feet after being dropped by Shavers, who many think to be the hardest puncher in boxing history
Here for Greyson (; Greyson Chance
EnchancerF Chance Shut up
EnchancerF Chance Shut up
I think the words of the late Floyd Patterson summed it up: "Of all the heavyweights ever, he was the best at taking a punch. And he took shots for a long time. When he lost his legs, he lost his defense. He's been hit in the ring for twenty years, my God. The brain slaps up against the skull and it causes scar tissue. That scar tissue makes your brain not work. Common sense tells you it's obvious what's wrong."
And yet we still haven't gone to Mars :(
Frazier HATED Ali. He said he could never forgive him. I hope they made up before the end
by god's grace they did.
@@rudraroy2382 in 1996 frazier said that he hopes ali would fall into the olympic fire
@@senatorarmstrong2100 All those years later?
cos brothas got it HANGIN'. It was going down the front of his leg and the helmet was getting pressed between knee and trouser everytime he took a step!
@michaelyouth Can I say without a doubt that Parkinson's was brought on from boxing? No. But I can say he suffered brain damage because of his unhuman ability to take a punch. Other guys would take a few of those frazier hooks and be down for the count. Ali took countless and was only dropped once by Frazier at the end of a brutal fight. He took a great shot, but as a result his brain got scrambled a bit too. It's unavoidable.
@nazirdjon yes thats him. but his name is angelo dundee with U
It’s a damn shame people my age didn’t get to know this Ali, we only knew the Parkinson’s affected Ali
2:00 🦀
@bandit7498 No I understand what you mean. I mean it's nonsense to say he did not take many shots. But I meant, relatively speaken. Of course Ali took severe punishment in the Norton, Frazier fights and also in the later fights, with Shavers, Holmes, Young etc.
But I think there are boxers who took more blows to the head than Ali did, not just Frazie, and they're doing fine. So I don't know if boxing gave Ali Parkinson.
allah yarahmo inchallah
How many are from Phillipines???
Muhammad Ali is the Greatest all time
Ali Wanted This Fight To Be In Manilla To Get Quality Time Away From His Wife Belinda To Commit Adultery With A Women Named Veronica Porsh And He Did Commit Adultery With Her!!!
2:10 that man is Angelo Dandee?
Muhammad Ali Yes.
0:27
@85MarkusP And why is that so? Just try to be as specific as you can .. It could be kind of cool to hear at least a good summary of why Hinduisme is the true religion ...
i dont think muhammed only got his disease by boxing at 0:27
Greyson brought me here
@michaelyouth And I'm not the only one he thinks he had the best chin. Go back and watch some of the shots he got hit with, punches that would have hospitalized most men. And just be cause he got dropped doesn't mean his chin failed him. Frazier dropped him in the 15th AFTER Ali had suffered major punishment. Yet he was up by the count of 2. Shavers caught Ali FLUSH on the chin with a shot that should have killed him and all Ali did was play possum. No heavyweight ever took shots like that.
Allah Hu Akbar
He was adjusting the pipe so it fall on the inside of the knee.
@michaelyouth Not true huh. Tell you what. Go check out some of Ali's chatter from anything from the Foreman fight or earlier. Then listen to him talk from '76 and later and tell me his voice doesn't sound different. I'm not going to say it was Parkinson's at that point, but it was clear that damage had been done. Ali was the greatest, but no man can take the punishment he did and not suffer some sort of damage. He had the best chin in history, but that chin cost him down the road.
@Yeahitzbop Crusades
All religions are based off lies, deception, and fail.
That said, Ali was one of the best boxers ever.
@michaelyouth And how do you figure Frazier is doing fine? Frazier is all kinds of fucked up too, albeit not as bad as Ali. The difference was Frazier didn't fight too many big punchers. He's been criticized for that. Foreman was the only big puncher I can really think of and look how well that worked out for him. He got KOd in the 2nd in their first fight. Frazier could not take the big shots like Ali could and that's a fact. Also Frazier quit at the right time. Ali didn't.
This dude was selling tickets with all this controversy.
@mjdbest
Please repeat, in English please.
anyone else see Samuel L. Jackson walk up at 2:05 ?
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@MrWrjs Ali humbled George Foreman. God, Jesus, etc, had nothing to do with it.
@michaelyouth Dude, I'm not trying to insult you, but you're just not being realistic. To say he didn't take that many shots, I just can't believe anyone would say that when you can view all his fights right here on youtube. In his youth he was very hard to hit cleanly. In his prime he was damn near impossible to hit. When he came back in '70 he was not the same and he got hit, A LOT! Matter of fact he once prided himself on his defense. In the '70s he bragged about how well he could take it.
@riffi15 salaam bro.. Arabic word for bible or GOSPELS is INJEEL brought upon to isa alayhis salaam...... THE ZABUR are the Psalms brought upon to Musa alayhis salaam. And torah was brought upon to dawud alayhis salaam.... No religion is bad bro..... its the people who make it corrupt the books are never corrupt.
lolz think small to get teh people what they want. i don't think deep at press conference, man desires to know what he doesn't,-Ali, sometimes even fears it. -me
@Dijaveen Im not going to explain myself to you. At least Hindu people aren't always fighting on the internet like christians and muslims
@dibosh80 Sorry ..but I have read the Quran ..and its NOT very similar to the Bible ..The Bible preaches of love and DOING it ..not about love and retalliation like the Quran does ...The Bible says : Love your enemies ..The Quran says without much ado : Slay your enemies ...Where is the likeness? ...It merely looks that the Quran copied some parts of the Mosaic law, and that is about it where we can refer to any likeness ..besides that, the Bible maintains much higher wisdom in no retalliation..
@TEHWEEZY and when was Christianity ever about bashing another mans belief?
and yeah people who say the bible is corrupt and quran is real or vice-versa..... let me tell you a thing you may laugh at me for this but islamic history says that there were 4 or three books brought upon the prophets namely ,,,,,, BIBLE, TORAH AND QURAN...... sorry for gettin involved again.... live and let live
Because he has one.
@arlington33able Muslims like to glorify God. Man gets complaisant when he forget about God. Saying Allahu Akbar is a simple phrase among many that Muslims use to glorify God. The idea is if you have faith in God then it will manifest in your speech and actions. So it is no surprise that muslims say Allahu Akbar to remember God's greatness. Hope that helps.
@riffi15 Thanks man but I ain't a christian.
you seem like griffin after a chicken fight!
Should have gone into pro wrestling
if was today anf tecnology we have the could stopped him for fighting already by 1976
in terrorist camps i watched documentary where pak army when they find taliban camps there r vids in the camps tapes etc etc
@MrWrjs When muslims refer to Allah, its the same being you refer to as the father, "God". In other words, you and Muhmmad Ali are talking about the same being, God, unless you think the son "Jesus" is greater than the "Father", God.