Crash Evolution [Unseen Prototype]
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- Опубліковано 9 лип 2024
- I got this build from anonymous sources. Build required some patching from me, because it supposed to run on PS2 DevKit and not retail PS2 or emulator.
0:00 - Level Overview
1:21 - Vehicle
1:42 - TNT Damage
1:53 - Graphics Debug
2:41 - Game Options
2:52 - Camera Options and FPS Camera
3:17 - TT Editor
4:27 - Ceiling chi-chi grass
5:24 - Debug jump
5:43 - Pathfinding options (Crash)
6:12 - Asteroids and Fragments
7:05 - Debug Options
7:33 - Wall chi-chi grass
8:10 - Floor chi-chi grass
8:34 - Misc Physics stuff - Ігри
![Crash Twinsanity [100%] by Joester98 - #ESASummer22](/img/n.gif)
Tried to post earlier but got lost somehow. This is great work to get it running, and triggered a load of ancient memories for me. This testbed layout was copied from our talented designer then I placed the crates and physics objects for prototyping. Really wanted to get more of the explosionphysics interactions into the final game, but it didn't really happen to the extent I hoped. Another cool thing that was prototyped around this time but not used, was an attention system for Crash, where he would turn his head to look at explosions etc. Fun to watch him tracking a long fuse line of tnt crates leading up to his feet! The spider mech climbing up walls and ceilings was also barely used, though I thought it was pretty cool. The code for it was re-used to make the beetle chase in the school, but sadly the quantity of beetles went down from a dramatic looking 200+ to a disappointing 30 because of 60hz performance constraints. If you happened to have access to AgentLab as well, you might be able to actually edit the behaviours of the actors here, using the Reload Behaviours option in the in-game menu. I can't remember where exactly it tries to load them from, but you could try doing an export from AgentLab and see where it goes. Once again, I'm seriously blown away by the skills involved in getting this running after 20 years, and its been mad to see this community showing so much love for this aging, wonky game that keeps on giving way beyond its natural life. Respect to you all.
Thank you for great game, Twinsanity really defined whole epoch for me! When i got a chance to get this build running without devkit that was a huge honor. I have also seen presentations. I really love a lot of work that went into AI, be it tribesman hunting mushrooms and flocks of bird or Ants trying to corner Crash using vehicles. Really interesting stuff, being AI Developer myself. AgentLab AI engine seems to be really capable. I really wish twinsanity would turn out with such complex behaviours and a lot of physical interractions (like the one where cortex blows up pile of TNT and Tiki Heads go flying everywhere!) but i guess it was too expensive budged and hardware wise in the end. But, even though a lot was cut, even retail version of Twinsanity full of technological wonders. Twinsanity Engine is quite powerful.
> its been mad to see this community showing so much love for this aging, wonky game that keeps on giving way beyond its natural life. Respect to you all.
Thank you from whole community! We really love this game. If you wish, you can join us here: discord.gg/Q5nHRUm JMac and FakeNina are already there :)
@@NeoKesha thanks for the invite. I joined the discord as Cheezoid, but can't post yet as I can't get the phone app to verify. Will check in when I'm at a computer.
@@NeoKesha please show videos of the Gone a bit coco level, we all want to see what the level would be like in coco's mind
I know they do what they can, but it's a dream to see the level when cortex enters coco's mind through the cicotron.
please, we all want to see the level in coco's mind, there is a video where they show cortex shooting in the eliminated level.
Oh man, somebody at Traveller's Tales Oxford in 2003's going to get fired over this getting out 😮
Who knows what would happen if this cutting edge technology falls into the wrong hands???
You guys made my childhood
@@krash2
I know, right? The crew is HERE!!
@@JMac1980 why do I feel like the Floor cling plant code was reused in Super Monkey Ball Advemture for the tetherball?
The others look like it works well for Nina
@@JMac1980 Hello, do you know why the Balloon City Level existed? From the concept arts we have in Twinsanity, it looks like it's a in game footage. 🤔 What was it's purpose storywise?
I initially went into this expecting it to be an April Fools joke but it’s actually legit. Shoutouts to there anonymous sources you got this from.
The April Fools joke was them giving us legit content with us thinking it was gonna be an April Fools joke
This is really cool! I Like how Crash is more animated here! Always bothered me that Crash always had the same dead expression in Twinsanity. Also it surprised me that they made a new high quality "Woah!" Sounds really good.
This is so great!! Never expected to see Crash Evolution footage, now if only some dev had more footage of the lost level "Gone a Bit Coco", I've been waiting for years for more footage to be released
This is some revolutionary shit right there, mate.
Never thought you'd find it! Neither anybody else
Im so glad you made this discovery, a very big yet mysterious game!, Thanks a bunch for the footage!
Well, I think you've got more work to do now, if ya know what I mean 😏
@@CrashTwindicoot oh yeah i get what you mean ;)
Holy smokes! You actually found this! People have been looking for Evolution footage for years and years! Simply incredible. Thank you so much for this, this is mind blowing. Crash's future would probably have been very, very different if this version of the game had been finished. Again, so awesome to see all this!
It's so cool to see Foofie in action! Also, seems the fragments were inspored by N-Tranced. And I'm glad Twinsanity did the rope swing before CB4, and did it better.
I mean even if this DOES turn out to be an April Fools joke, this is one impressively crafted bit of gameplay footage.
Pretty interesting to see the grapping hook (which i assume is the unused alien "foofie"?) and that red ant on top of the mech.
I really like the idea of Crash having a grappling hook
If I had to guess, I'd think it had to do with them trying to scrap everything that reminds people of Ratchet and Clank, including the "Grapple Hook" Ratchet uses. That's even the case with changing the plot from Evolution to Twinsanity.
Here's a block-quote by Twinsanity's concept-artists, Keith Webb, in the interview with him on the BeyondTwinsanity website:
"If I recall correctly, the tone of the game started to change when it observed that it was getting a little too close to a recently released Ratchet and Clank game in terms of plot and setting, with the various Si-Fi planets etc. That was really when it changed from the initial “Crash Evolution” concept to what we now know as Twinsanity".
@@CrashTwindicootat least nina got something similar to it
@@BandomCD
Wow, I think they really wanted the grappling-hook ability by all means.
Maybe the one in this video looked way more similar to Ratchet and they didn't like that? I really don't know, it's just a hypothesis.
@@CrashTwindicoot or maybe they thought it doesn't fit Crash gameplay/movement?
Insane you were able to do this. Great work as always Kesha!
Can you create gone a bit coco?
Yoooooooooo! Crash Evolution actually exists! That’s really cool!
1:16 imagine if they used the woah sound in crash twinsanity
coming back to this video again, the "whoa" sounds like it's the original in high quality. im guessing tt was given access to naughty dog's assets at this time? a "whoa" is used in the final, but is merely reused from wrath of cortex
This is amazing!
I find it really weird that crash has a lot more facial animations here than he does in the final release, since you have the iso in your possesion, does the game work on the editor in any way shape or form.
He even says 'Whoa!" in this one too.
It's almost like they intentionally drained Crash's soul for Twinsanity. Like it's a Cortex POV game, so of course he just sees him as a one note grinning stupid zombie. :P
@@e-122psi3 ive heard it was for technical reasons, whatever that means
@@e-122psi3 That's a really good theory of Twinsanity being a Cortex POV game. Especially since there was going to be a sequel to Twinsanity starting Cortex as the main character. Also don't forget the little cutscene in Twinsanity right before the N.Tropy and N.Brio boss fight where Crash was going to speak but they silenced him.
Nice! Thank you for sharing!
I feel they implemented stuff from Crash Evolution to Crash of the Titans
😮
The fact than an actual dev of the game is here makes me have hope this is real
9:12 Maths Classes Be Like
INCREIBLE, SUMAMENTE INCREIBLE
What a beautiful game we want you to add to all mobile phones. This game will win!
Hopefully this will see the light of day eventually. 🙏
this is awesome!!
Do you have any plans of sharing this build?
Literally if we can get this, we can get Gone a Bit Coco someday...
golden gameplay
Are there any plans on releasing this to the public?
Thanks you so much.
this is so cool
Very interesting date to release this on lol
Wow its almost been a year since this video came out!
I really hope you can work out something to release this.
I know the legal mumbo jumbo and that this is "Clasufied stuff' wich in a way makes sense,
This wasn't supposed to be public.
But I doubt modern TT that mostly develops lego games wouldn't sue the anonymous source over something silly
like a Crash bandicoot proto that was made 20 years ago.
Aight so protos get out in 3/2 different ways.
1• Someone finds a build on a ps2 or disc they hapoen to have.
(Most common)
2• anonymous dev or random dude that released it due to having conections or having worked on it.
Gamehut seems to have a couple builds probably from the studio giving out for a multitude of reasons thus making his videos pretty legal.
3• Stolen build stolen illegally from the studio or anything related.
This hapened with Sonic 2's nick arcade build I believe or if it was the simon wai builds being stilen from a store showcasing it.
This would make it very illegal to release.
Hooefully we could play this build someday.
This is so fuck*ng insane and this is not another joke of the day. We have gold NOW!
Has this prototype been dumped and released online? This looks amazing!
Is there a download link? I'd love to play this!
Woah,look the ant rider and the mechanic crash will control that "Metal Ridable",and the totens are not incluid in the game,the plant grabling hook are amazing,all that new content make the twinsanity 300% more bigger than we thing,what things unused will be discovery coming soon?
Nice remake dude, u made it on unity right?
;)
I wonder if is possible to recreate this in unity or any other engines im order to make a full content crash twinsanity with all the cut stuff or at least fix most of the original game problems, just like chaosx did with his project 06
Well, games are being made. Every day, every year. Remaking Twinsanity in Unity is still making games. It's just very hard. Everyone wants to remake Twinsanity in Unity, no one yet was determined enough to even start. There is Dreams version though.
@@NeoKesha Indeed. I still dream of see this game in its full glory some day, like a definitive version of it, i dont mind if it isnt official anyways but its easy to say and hard to do but maybe someday, someone with the enough amount of courage manages to restore the game with its full content.
If it helps 4 years ago I I start the project myself to remake twinsanity I only got as far as pause menu ua-cam.com/video/-EvlFiiaBZ0/v-deo.html if this is something fans truly want
I guess I could make it happen but It won't be released straight away I'm only one guy.
They will not publish the prototype?
Woah
Is there more of this?
Is this available to download?
wow..
🔸"I got this build from *ANONYMOUS SOURCES* ..."
🔸 "Build required some *PATCHING* from me..."
❓Any further info on these two lines pls?
What info? Source of this build wanted to stay Anonymous for a privacy reasons.
This build was supposed to used with ps2 devkit, not emulator. So i had to modify elf file a bit so it would run on emulator.
@@NeoKesha
Well, thanks to the amazing person who provided you with that special iso, tho I wish it got leaked the same way the prototype version of Twinsanity got to the public many months ago.
Never mind, I'd need to be an advanced programmer to get the file running, tho a tutorial could've helped in case that scenario happened.
You will think about sharing this iso in some future or something
If i could, the build would be shared already. I dont have such permission.
this is insane
i was expecting being rick rolled
Dude if this proto has a lot elements from evo. it shown in this vid. , they could make remake/fan made/new game similar to original twinsanity
Hey Neo
Since you have some contacts with the og devs of evolution,I got a question
Since TT games had another game that they had to change besides crash twinsanity which is Haven due to "similarties" with R&C
I wondered why didn't they open a lawsuit againts them since they had to change two games (Haven and crash) because of similarties with one game (R&C) and also Haven started development in 2000 which made me suspect that Insomnaic (or at least one of the devs) somewhat stole from TT games
I highly doubt Insomniac, at the time, stole something. Ideas collide very often, if you start tracking instances of such happening through out history. In art, science, and game development.
There is no base for a lawsuit in such situation, especially if there is no evidence of intellectual property (concepts, documents, etc) being stolen
TLDR as i often answer many questions like this - it doesn't work like that
@@NeoKeshaidk, I still find it very suspicious, R&C started in development in late march 2001 while Haven started back in 2000 and Haven was supposed to have TT games logo as protagonist at that time, but was changed due to resemblance with ratchet
is there a date on this build?
February 2003
Crash tiene el Omnitrix xd
Whoa. That’s *N. Credible,* dude!
Parece que a animação de correr do Crash nessa versão é mesma da Nina
Not even close what?
@@bombDOW I say that the animation of the Crash of running, is the same of the Nina
Download?
Dioooos, solo ve cuantas cosas tendría Twinsanity, si ya de por si el juego es perfecto imaginate si hubiera incluido todo eso, dios no me la creo, me hubiera encantado que saliera con todo el contenido eliminado
Sweet find. Are you not going to do anything to preserve this build?
I would love to upload it somewhere, but i was told directly not to redistribute it. Allowing me to show this video is already huge gray area. Right now we are documenting all we can find and show.
@@NeoKesha What's the best way to keep updated on this project? I'm not a discord user. Are you going to be uploading to this channel?
@@josevelagonzales you should probably follow BetaM on Twitter or subscribe to their channel
@@NeoKesha Okay got it. One more question out of curiosity: did your source come to you because of you skills so you could get this working again?
@@josevelagonzales yes, something like that. There was a chance i could make it run, so they gave it go me.
Why you dont’have any permissions for release the iso of this prototype?
Because source i got it from told me not to. And they can have a lot of obvious reasons for that. Releasing materials like that always huge gray area, even for forgotten games like Twinsanity.
@@NeoKesha ok,thank your for the reply!,have a nice day.
Are you planning on releasing this? Maybe get in touch with Hidden Palace?
Source asked me not to, so unless source allows it, i won't release it
@@NeoKesha that's a real shame, I'd really appreciate it if you could reach out to said source and enquire. I'd love to add this to my collection. :)
HOLY SHIT! The asteroid... isnt that THE "MASTER CRYSTAL" from Crash Bandicoot 2: Cortex Strikes Back?!
I think they tried to make it have an appearance for it after all, even tho, there was no mention of it at all ever since Crash 2 happened and crashed into Uka Uka's prison.
EDIT: WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT?!?!?!?!? Twinsanity was meant to have ROPE SWINGING?!?!?!?!
No wonder it was "Rachet and Clank" like...
If anybody could extract those TNT-explosion sounds, I could use 'em in my fangame
1:43
The only thing available currently is to clip this sound from beginning to end. Lucky the sound is clear and already isolated.
@@CrashTwindicoot There's the spin sound mixed into it though
@@GWKTM
Oh, I couldn't hear the spin. It got embedded behind the loud explosive noise.
By the way, the prototype versions of Twinsanity mostly use recycled sound effects from The Wrath of Cortex. Even most Crash Bandicoot games recycle many sound effects from previous games, because a lot of them come from popular sound libraries at the time, and you can even recognize some sounds in those games used in many other games, cartoons and movies.
So, don't lock yourself to specific sound effect in a certain game if you can't get your hands on it, cuz you might find it in another.
Good lock on your magnificent project!
I have it for my fangame
Those are the same sounds used in the PS1 games. it's called "Hollywoodedge, Explosion Large Shar PE097801"
Does it has more levels or just this one?
No, only this one. Though, it got acconpanied by several design documents and other cool stuff. I cant show it directly, though, later i might make retelling of those documents
How did you get this and can you tell me how
I have connections
@@NeoKesha can you give them to me please
You will share it?
Not allowed to
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Mision complete
This has got to be fake, Twinsanity Crash would never spin a TNT crate and survive
You know this is legit, right? This is an actual very early version, or at least part of, what Twinsanity would have been like if it would of come out as "Crash Bandicoot: Evolution." So nope, this isn't fake. Its actually real.
@@saragarnica723 Yes I know
@@bitchypooch Oh, ok. So sorry! Didn't mean to bother you😅, and thanks for replying!😄
@@saragarnica723 It's okay. lol
Is this real?
Yes
W T F
Crash twinsanity remake
Not happening
April Fool's, or no?
I was thinking about it too lol. There are some unique animations and models here so if it's an april fools joke, a lot of effort went into it.
Its legit
So... Where's the release? Don't be a hoarder...
I am not a hoarder. I have no permission to release it.
@Project 2319 I care and tons of crash bandicoot fans care.
@@NeoKesha and whoever gave it to you had permission to do it?
@Project 2319 not archiving this so everybody can access it's basically making lost media so this video will be useless
@@AtanoKSi putting something online isnt the same thing as archiving. there are thousands of physical archives out there in the world. actual, real archives. they don't have things up online. i'm not a fan of hoarding either, but twitter rom beggars and the lost media wiki's all-too-loose definition of "lost" have done serious damage to the word "preservation"
Its..a joke... ._. rigth?