My son (13) volunteered his time last week to umpire a little league game. We’re a small town. Only two teams so we do the best we can with what we have. Long story short some of the parents were chirping about balls and strikes…admittedly he had a couple bad calls. As I’m coaching 3rd I hear some snide remarks and explained to them that if they didn’t like the next time they are more than welcome to come ump the next game. People always want to complain but never want to do the job
My daughter was playing little league softball. The other team had to forfiet due to a lack of players, and since it wasn't an official game, the umpire had to leave. A couple dads and I decided we'd be happy to take turns calling balls and strikes, so the girls could at least scrimmage. I was behind the plate, and make a couple calls, and hear, "Oh c'MON! What are you doing?" I turn around and point at the guy and say, "You're turn to be behind the plate." The other dads on the field backed me up, and the dude sheepishly came out (he had some pride to save, it seems). It was glorious. He couldn't call balls/strikes to save his ass.
Your son's experience is typical...unfortunately. Parents and fans are going to ruin their own sport when young people don't start calling games; building their skills and experience, It's the only way to learn the job, but if parents and fans give the kids a hard time, they'll say F- it. I don't need this grief. ........so what will they do without officials?
Yea the point is at the end of the day, your son went out of his way to do a favor for the league and the parents acted like total ingrates in response.
My 16 year old daughter just finished her first year of umpiring girls 10U softball and I would go to her games as her “bodyguard”. One coach was complaining about every call that didn’t go his way all game and it was getting worse as the game went on. I’m watching and biting my lip and wondering when I should step in while still allowing the coach to be a coach. By the last inning he took it too far and he started yelling at her so I stepped in and introduced myself as her father and reminded the guy that it was 10 U softball and not game 7 of the World Series and that he was most likely the only person who cares about the final score. He kept his mouth closed the rest of the game and his assistant coach tried to tell me he was yelling at the other teams coach and not my daughter
Frank Last They “lost” in a forfeit. No umpire would allow a game to continue when his or her safety is compromised by a bush league action like that. And if that league wants umpires, then they would be required to take action against that coach, since he clearly instructed the pitcher and catcher to do that. It’s no different than if the coach had punched an umpire. The face mask saves umpires from cranial fractures, but you feel it when you get hit like that, and usually that happens due to a foul ball that happens too quickly for the catcher to react. It’s because of actions like this that leagues are having trouble finding officials to work their games. This wouldn’t be tolerated by NCAA or professional leagues. You think it should happen here?
@ 2:00 "That was obvious" Exactly. There should be no argument here from anyone. Ump made the right call, and the coach from the other team should be fined for that. Those are kids playing ball for fun. Great lesson that coach is teaching them... What a clown!
Those kids not playing for fun, and don't like participation trophies. You don't get rewarded just for showing up. You play to win and get rewarded for winning.
yeah .... cause that's this vid was all about .... crikey, the other team conspired to throw a ball at the umpires face and you talking about the umpire pointing downwards once when his back is turned to a mob of dickheads shouting at him .... wow
@@miker5667 idiots like you should be denied entrance to any game. You are the reason it is hard to find umpires. If you think you can do a better job, strap it on. If you don’t have the guts, shut the fuck up.
I’m a newer umpire but have been officiating ice hockey for many years. I tell the newer officials the same thing I live by: 1) always call a fair game no matter what and strive to call the best game you can 2) always admit and learn from your mistakes 3) always be a student of the sport, the day you stop learning how to be a better official is the day you need to stop being one
Ice hockey has to be one of the hardest sports to officiate, from someone who didn't start watching the NHL until I was 16, it's amazing how well the officiating is in the NHL.
Well said. I've been an umpire for 27 years and started at the bottom of youth baseball (now I do high school/JUCO only) and those are three great pieces of advice. The one thing I will add: Set expectations! When you have your plate meeting with the coaches let them know what you expect. I always tell the coaches that we won't be arguing any balls/strikes or judgement calls. If they have a question about why a judgement call was made then come discuss it with me between innings. If it's a rules question, then by all means call a timeout and lets discuss it at that time. Otherwise, there will be no 'arguing' and that is their one and only warning. You say it in a very respectful way, let them know you are open to discussion but that you have set the parameters. By setting those expectations, coaches know what is acceptable when I'm umpiring a game. Finally, I let them know that they, as coaches, are responsible for their fan behavior. That usually limits any issues from fans (I don't pay any attention to fans during the game so it would have to be something pretty outlandish for me to notice anyway). I always try to be invisible, but that's almost never completely possible. So, by setting those expectations up front you save yourself a lot of issues down the line.
@@BoomerKeith1 It is funny you bring that up. I have recently learned about and started addressing the “we aren’t arguing judgment calls” at the plate meeting. So far it has made a difference, I think…. Great advice though! Appreciate you sharing.
@@Monsiemage Ice hockey officiating is a blast once you get the foundational rules down. At that point you really just watch the game and penalties will just stick out to you. It’s fast paced but a lot of fun.
@@Haunter131313 It's amazing how much, having that brief conversation before the game, can help alleviate any issues. Sounds like you're off to a great start!
Dont play then. Go find another team. You've probably never played any sports. Imma always be down for my teammates. Let alone that was probably their Ace. Dont act like in professional sports other players dont stick up and support their best players. NFL does it with their QBs and even NBA does it with their franchise player. So the kids probably got on that mound and prob just said fuck this game. Sure no one should be targeted but you're an Umpire/Ref. The game is bigger than their petty emotions.
@@johnnykue379 Name a sport where assaulting a referee or umpire is something players do. They don't. It doesn't happen. Maybe they'll stick up for their teammates against other players, like if someone gets beaned or flagrantly fouled or something else egregious, but they don't do it to the refs. The refs are off limits and they should be at all levels. So you're right. "no one should be targeted but you're an umpire/ref." They should never, never, never be targeted.
@@johnnykue379You're right the game should be bigger than their petty emotions, so they should've grown the fuck up and not thrown a pitch at the umps skull. The coach needs to be fired and for a kid to actually fucking rocket that at an umps head? Probably a suspension if not banned.
A catcher on my team did this once (though it was significantly less obvious) and I remember feeling completely embarrassed. The umpire stood in front of the plate and quietly-but-clearly (and rightfully) ripped into my catcher. I hate seeing stuff like this.
My dad coached my team (at times) up to high school. If our catcher had ever done that, the catcher would've been off the team after that pitch. If he thought the pitcher had anything to do with it, he'd have been gone too. Would he have kicked me off the team if I did it? I think so and I certainly hope so.
Yes and the game should have immediately been forfeited, the opposing team should have been declared the winner regardless of what the score was at the time
throwing a softball at someones face intentionally is kinda a big issue should be blacklisted. if his protection failed he could of got a tbi, a concave face, or died.
This is so sad that I have no idea whether I should "like" or "dislike" this video. Kudos to the base umpire for excellent situation handling, and ending the game on behalf of the injured plate umpire.
@@devinthomas4866 A softball can be thrown quickly.enough to cause injury, particularly if thrown directly at someone's head. That a pitcher would intentionally throw at an umpire over a call she disagreed with (presumably on orders from her coach) is disgraceful. THAT is what most of the people watching this video are taking issue with.
@@devinthomas4866 Yes, it very well can hurt you. A ball hitting you straight in the face mask feels like a punch. You can snap your neck back pretty good, leaving you with a bit of whiplash. You can get a concussion. Contrary to your belief, softballs are not cottony pillows. They are still pretty damned hard. And a good softball pitcher can gun it up there pretty quickly.
@@devinthomas4866 Even with a mask on things can go differently and a soft ball could cause a stroke, heart attack, concussion, or even death. The coach, pitcher, and catcher can be charged with assault with deadly weapon, or even attempted murder.
Props to how well the home plate ump took not only the bitchy comments from the crowd, but the beanbag to the noggin. He didn't angry or yell or gesticulate or even stare her down. He just walked away. Good on him.
@@cool3929 you are so ignorant. grow up you twerp. you are playing a kids game, and you are wishing injuries upon another? ump could have filed assault charges on coach and pitcher/catcher. in some states assaulting a sports official is a felony...
I think the point of the throw was a sort of "I'll show you how accurate I am and that your calls are bullshit." The way the people in the crowd were talking there is something we don't know that happened before.
bigpun8601 Yeah, because a crowd at a baseball game is the best barometer as to what happened. /s There was no reason for those scumbags to drill the umpire like that, but dickheads like you are going to make excuses for them no matter what.
Burt Reynolds Well I mean the motive was obvious: revenge against the ump for making at least one bad call. But that's horrible sportsmanship. The pitcher and catcher (and whoever else liked the idea) were pieces of shit for doing it and they deserve to be benched for a couple of games.
Being an umpire is a lot harder than it looks. I just started with machine pitch and the amount of abuse you take from the coaches and the parents is insane for a kids game.
I’ve refereed youth soccer, football and basketball. After watching a good friend umpire a kids baseball game and seeing the abuse he endured, I knew I’d never consider doing it.
I came from a baseball family and grew up playing baseball my whole life, this is one of the most disrespectful things I’ve seen on the field. Not only to the umpire but to the game itself as well.
Another point that in my opinion highlights the professionalism of the umpire behind the plate is the fact that after getting hit, he took off his mask and walked away. Clearly, after being heckled all game, the ump was furious that this team really went so low as to intentionally hit him with a pitch. Rather than make a scene he walked it off. Good on the ump. Good officiating crew here. Perhaps not every call in the game was the correct call, but ladies and gentlemen that is the nature of the fucking game. Human error. If you don't like it stay away from sports. This team should enjoy a suspension from whatever league they play in and the coach should be banned from coaching in that league.
Being a person that grew up with baseball, i have had my fair share of absolutely horrible calls. But I handle it with maturity and just walk it off. In the pro's you see umps make absolutely crappy calls, but how often do you see Cliff Lee talk to the catcher and say "When i pitch, move" This little kid clearly hit the ump intentionally. And deserved for the game to end. Shit like this is just embarassing. Either argue with the ump yourself and nut up, or shut the fuck up and take the bad call. NEVER attack the people that control the games lol
mack720p Yes, he walked over to the coach, and ended the game. You can’t tolerate this behavior from a youth league coach. That game ended in a forfeit.
Rj Bertram He did very calmly walk away from the plate. He went over to the coach and told him that he cost his team the game. The “dropped glove” was deliberate, and the game ended in a forfeit. At the very end, you can see the batting team walk off the field, and the base umpire moving toward the mound. Umpires at this level are not going to allow themselves to be deliberately hurt. And this league will have to get tough with this kind of behavior, if they want umpires for their games.
Don't you just think it's hysterical that all the people near the camera berating the Umpire suddenly shut up when he walks off. They don't cheer for what the girls did or laugh at him for getting hit. They know what the girls did was a extremely dirty tactic.
WhenTheSkyTurnsDark And the umpire (and anyone else there) knows that the coach directed his players to do it. In softball, the mound is much closer to the plate, and he might have overheard them, though the crowd was making a lot of noise. That was the last pitch in that game.
From the crowd's reactions it sounds like the umpire was making bad calls, but even they knew the pitch intentionally aimed at the umpire. As an older gentleman who has umpired a hand full of games, you do it because you love the sport and enjoy watching others have fun. You get paid very little if at all, and you can easily get injured. I don't care what kind of calls he made before, but this last one was correct in ending the game.
@@matthewstump7563 - The view is a bit obscured, but the line of the ball looks to be over the plate if you look between the ump and the catcher. The catcher is to the right of the plate, and not centered. I think he called it incorrectly
Never is a sport so serious that a bad call or judgement warrants physicality as a response. And never is a coach so unqualified as one who promotes poor sportsmanship. This game was obviously taped. File an appeal with the league if the umpire is as terrible as has been implied below. Use the tape as evidence. Otherwise, play the game well and accept the outcome. Don't ever respond with such poor sportsmanship as this. Calling the game at that point was the only proper response next to ejecting the catcher and pitcher.
A bad call, no. poorly calling a game against your team, why not? Yes filing an appeal is the correct course of action but the reality is the game will be over by that point and at best the umpire will be suspended. Most likely nothing would happen to the umpire and it's not like they will get to play the game over again. Call it bad sportsmanship if you want, others would call it standing up for your self. When so many calls are against your team, the umpire has negated the purpose of playing. He might as well say the other team wins so we can all go home.
Brandon Francey Suspended? And you wonder why officiating at the pro level is so bad. School sports is where you cut your teeth,but the parents have such piss poor behavior Good officials up and quit.
Brandon Francey Yes it is bad sportsmanship. It is also criminal. The "stand up" way to "stand up for yourself" is to follow all the appeal processes in the rule book. To physically assault someone is criminal, and anyone who doesn't "get" that needs to understand that before THEY end up in jail.
A lot of baseball and softball dads around this level are former players who never made it past this level themselves, so this is their way of getting back at the umps who "prevented them from reaching their full potential", i.e. they are bitches
@@chrissmith7686 They're kids still, we forget how it's like to be a kid, how impressionable we are to adults. Are these travel teams? Does that coach have influence over their hopes of playing college ball in the future? Are they afraid of their coach? The kids did the wrong thing, but they had an adult giving them bad instructions; this is on the coach, full stop.
OK in this video we saw all of one pitch and one girl walks we have no idea what happened before that and so all of you are encouraging the coach and the kids to head hunt the ump…..really great….
I reffed a AAU practice scrimmage game one time. I was assigned the job we had a missing ref for a scrimmage game. First play I blew an inadvertent whistle. I instantly had both teams parents cussing me out and screaming at me. I instantly took off my whistle put it on the floor and went and sat in the stands. Fuq that job!!
@@thelowmax that’s why as a catcher we just let it happen when it’s clear bias and make it look accidental. I will tip a ball right into your groin with that glove “on accident “
So not gonna lie, this would be a temptation for sure. When I played, I was a catcher and it became my primary spot in HS. I’ve had plenty of bad umps who are not consistent; yes I have been tempted to do this. Definitely glad I didn’t, that can cause concussions. But the fact that a coach made this call is absolutely embarrassing and says a lot about the kind of coach he is and the kind of players he is producing.
@@benbazy9238 not how that works. At the end of the day it’s a game and you don’t get to injure people because it’s not going your way. People with a mindset like yours shouldn’t be playing sports.
An umpire buddy had this happen to him and he calmly brushed the plate off and from then on his strike zone was smaller than the ball for that team. Good lesson.
Thats what i plan on doing to my zone, should this happen to me. No place in the game for this, balls/strikes are all individual judgement calls..no 2 umpires have the same strike zone or you might as well have robots out there.
@@remydaitch9815that's a terrible idea. have the people so invested in the game they wanna fight an ump, officiate the game. That sounds like it would go way smooth.
In the UK, with kids sports, soccer, cricket, etc, there's a code of conduct that the parents who attend the matches have to sign up to; not to abuse the referees and umpires, not to use foul language, or belittle the players, or shout at or remonstrate with the staff. They must be supportive of the players and everyone taking part. If you break those rules, the organising authority (Local football association or local sports league) will ban you as a parent from attending anymore games. It's about time you got this into US Kids sports.
One of the dad's straight up says "that was obvious" ... wow sad all around for the players but especially for the Coach, he should set the example and overcome the obstacle/set back which was the run. but you do it as a team.
The umpire was deliberately calling balls even if they were in the strike zone, that’s why you hear a someone say “you’ve made your point” ump was screwing over a team. I don’t condone what they did to the ump but that dude was cheating that team.
@@rudysseus4410 The pitch seemed low, but there is no way from this camera angle to make a perfect assessment. As for accusing the ump for deliberately doing this how do you actually know? Just because a loud fan says “you Mede your point” does not determine what actually was happening.
I saw this happen to a younger umpire one time(it wasn’t even a obvious as this one) he took the pitch right to the head fell down. Got up calmly walked over to the coach and said you’re done. (It happened right after a mound visit) he then walked over and told Both the pitcher and catcher they were done. He waited 15 mins quietly with and ice bag on his jaw from where the ball hit him and play resumed. Coach was expelled from the league and the pitcher and catcher got 3 games suspended and had each write a letter of apology to the ump. Now I’ve been umpiring for over 20 years, and this younger umpire was maybe 21 or 22 at the time I wouldn’t have handled as well as he did.
Sometimes a statement has to be made to the umpire when he is calling a poor game. I have been a catcher for over 30 years (Little League, High School, College, and now Town Team) and I have let a couple of dozen balls or so go by over the years to let the ump get tagged. I have never been thrown out either. I also wouldn't allow a high pitch toward the umpire's head to go by, that is just plain dangerous and when I do let a pitch go by neither my coach nor my pitcher know I am going to do it. I set up outside and when the pitch goes inside I am "slow" to stab at it. I have had a few umps make remarks over the years but I just shrug my shoulders and tell them they know what the deal is. Maybe my being 6'7" 265 lbs makes a difference and maybe not.
@@thomasjoseph5876 if you purposely let an umpire get hit bc you don’t like how he’s calling a game you shouldn’t be playing sports. I don’t care if you didn’t let a high speed pitch go by or towards his head. That dangerous and I hope you don’t coach kids to do that either. You should be ashamed of yourself. I’ve caught my entire baseball career. I wasnt great but I never let a pitch go by on purpose to “send a statement” and if I ever did a game like that you would have been throw out. And I hope next time you do it (which I hope you don’t ever do again) you do get throw out.
@@lscales6131 If the ump is calling a bad or dirty game, perhaps it is HE who shouldn't be involved in sports. Most of the time when an ump does that it is because of a personal vendetta against a team or a coach. There is no room in sports for that kind of action. It's amazing how after getting tagged once or twice how the game suddenly gets called more fairly. Strike zones become the same size, close calls are called fairly, etc. Yes, bad calls are part of the game, but when they are repeatedly and blatantly called against one team then the individual calling the game as an ump has no business in that position of authority. When a coach respectfully asks the ump for a clarification about a rule or a call and is suddenly ejected, that should not be happening.
@@thomasjoseph5876 you still shouldn’t purposely allow a hit to the umpire. Regardless how bad they are there are other ways to not get them to umpire. I’ve been umpiring for 20 years there is a procedure to get rid of bad umpires or get them more training.
Well, the coach got what he wanted. Instead of digging in and trying strategy to make a come back he quit and gave up like a child. Good job coach, I'd never want to be on your team if things got "tough". You quit, sounds like a great way to rally a team.
Team in black didn't like the calls the ump behind the plate was giving them. They had a little discussion, and that after that, the catcher stepped out on an easily catchable throw that ended up hitting the umpire in the head. The catcher could have and should have caught that pitch, rather than lowering her glove and bolting to the left, leaving the ump exposed. He could have been injured.
That was a bitch move by those girls. In my 13 years of playing softball, I've come across MANY horrible umpires, but you do NOT conspire to assault ANY of them. They should be charged.
@@Sir-Hash-A-Lot Shame on you. If a coach is that upset about the calls, he needs to go out there make his point and get tossed without dragging his players into it.
Im sure treating misfortune against oneself with violence in turn is a trait we SO want our kids learning.. Yes, please, teach these kids it is okay to strike an adult because they dont like a judgement.. /sarcasm.
Just to pile on here...those "fans" in the stands are the ones that encouraged the coach to tell the players to do that, whether they realize it or not. By complaining constantly, they fed the frustration and added to it. Absolutely disgraceful and the coach should be banned from ever coaching anything, ever
@@benbazy9238 It was kinda sh!tty and uncalled for. Those players were encouraged to act like that because the coach and the fans were not able to cheer for their team
I used to be a pitcher and my dad was a coach. Even if he told me to I would never throw a pitch purposely at an ump. I've umpired games before and it's a tough position. These girls and coach are pathetic.
+Brandon Hollingsworth WRONG!!!! If a player does that they should be suspended indefinitely (IF NOT banned for life). You NEVER disrespect a person of authority like that!!
+Brandon Hollingsworth sounds like you don't know much about the game. If respect is earned, then these girls didn't earn it. Each umpire is different, for example, the umpire in the video probably had a smaller strike zone, seeing as the players are getting walked. Instead of talking to the umpire to figure out what kind of pitch he's looking for and adjusting, or putting in another pitcher, they threw it at him and probably got the catcher and coach kicked out of the game. It's very disrespecting and embarrassing of this team.
My daughter has played softball since she was 6, she's 14 now we have taught her to respect the umpires ,her coaches and the opposing team,if she was to be apart of something like that it would be the last time she played ball!
If I were the parents of the catcher or the pitcher I would yank them off of the team, the program and tell them they would be unable to play sports for the rest of high school. The coach of course was a big part of it but for them to follow those directions? They know what is right vs wrong.
My daughter is a catcher and trained extensively by me and other coaches. I was about to show her this video and I told her... "watch this and tell me what you would do if you found yourself in this situation". As soon as she saw it she said "I'd ask you to take me to another team immediately." flexor212000 These are 18U aged girls and should've learned enough sportsmanship and responsibility to say NO when that ass wipe of a coach asked them to do this. Matthew Williams This isn't school ball, this is travel select ball. Had it been school, ball the coach would've been fired and the players suspended indefinitely.
Lennon Ward You know every one of those bitches parents will forever blame the umpire and not their stupid children. Their precious little snowflakes can do no wrong!
Actually a serious matter. Any team willing to do that is more than willing to hurt someone to prove a point. Remainder of schedule should be forfeited. Coach should not be allowed to coach for a few years. As well, the players, especially the catcher, should be forced to apologize and explain their actions to the umpire. I was on a team that did this to an umpire in junior college ball. It was a classless act.
@@ryan-5494ah yes. What logic. He made a bad call, of course, the next action should be hit him with a pitch that could harm him. That makes total sense.
I cannot believe the number of people on this board who are either defending what this team did, or at the very least, justifying it by assuming that the umpire had it coming to him. I'm guess that these are the leather-lunged Kens and Karens that make watching youth baseball/softball games so excruciating for those parents who come just to watch their kids play.
No. The people defending the team do know the game and do realize the ump had an agenda to screw this team. The ump most definitely deserved this. Not only does the ump need to open his eyes....you need to open your eyes. There is no way the ump missed that call....he did it on purpose. There are penalties to pay for screwing with the game.
@@RapIsDeadly your an idiot!!!! People like you are what’s wrong with sports today. In no way is the ok. I’m an umpire and I’m on the board for a local little league. If this happened to me, there would be suspensions and possibly removing the coach from his position. Unbelievable you are trying to justify that.
@@RapIsDeadly What trash stands up for trash my guy......the pitcher lost her full ride to Utah because of this. That's hilarious! Seems pretty fucking petty to teach a blue working/volunteering a TRAVEL TEAM series some mundane lesson....all because they "know" the game. GTFO with that.
This is one of the most low class things you can do on a baseball field. You have a problem with the Ump, you get in his face and argue, you dont throw a ball at him. Pitcher/catcher/coach should be kicked out of the league.
Coach was a coward for having his players do that while not saying anything to the umpire himself. Shame on the girls for following through with a clearly unsportsmanlike reaction.
Thats absolutely pathetic. You can clearly see the catcher move out of the way and not even try to catch it. What the hell is wrong with kids sometimes? Where's the sportsmanship in that?
"Okay girls. We've just walked in a run. What's our strategy?" "I know! What if we deliberately hit the umpire in the head the very next pitch?" "Brilliant!" This team is not just immoral, it's incomprehensibly stupid.
This is today's society! Get pulled over by a cop... instantly start fighting with him about a $70 ticket. Don't like a SCOTUS decision...send in a democrRAT hit man. It's all reactions and acting like spoiled little children. Scream it's not fair. I'm (fill in the blank here)
As a former college softball player, catcher, and umpire...this just disgusts me! I don't care if every single pitch was down the middle, the call is what the umpire calls. You work around his zone. While he is wearing a protective facemask, that doesn't make it hurt any worse and a pitch at that speed can actually kill a person if it hits right! A softball pitched at 65 mph has the speed of a 90 mph baseball at the distance it is...just disrepectful and dangerous! I would have pulled the coach's license and the eligibility of the pitcher and catcher!
Sam Hofer I agree with you all the way, but the pitch speed isn't actually like a 90 mph fastball, the reaction speed is just like a reaction of a 90 mph fastball. It would still feel the same as a 65 mph, but it could still hurt or kill someone
The catcher looked like she "yanked" or "pulled" the pitch up...which makes it look like a strike in the video, but honestly it didn't look that low. But maybe the umpire had been warning her all game to stop yanking the pitches...you keep doing that to me after I tell you to knock it off, I'm calling it a ball. See, when you yank a pitch you tell everyone in the ballpark "Well, that pitch was a ball, but let me see if I can fool the umpire." Hey, if you think it's a ball, I'm going to agree with you ! "Ball!" First, I wouldn't have left them out there yapping on the mound that long. When there's a conference, I dust off the plate slowly, peek back, if they are still there I start the slow walk to the mound. That sends the message, and usually they break it up. Clearly the coach told the pitcher to throw at the umpire, and told the catcher to bail out. There's no other interpretation for what happened next. But look at how long the kids were at the mound after the coach left. I'll bet they were talking about whether to do it or not -- but you know pyscho coaches go for those mind games - the kids were probably afraid to disobey. Plate umpire should have immediately dumped the pitcher, catcher, and the coach, at a minimum. His partner did the right thing too. The manager should be banned for life from coaching. I'd recommend at least a 1-game suspension for the pitcher and the catcher, but frankly I'd be wanting more than that, maybe even up to a season ban. Come back next year when you're had time to think about what you just did. I've never seen this happen personally, but it's despicable on so many levels.
Come on... you don't mess with rec sport officials. They know the game better than you, and are not even paid just trying to have some fun. The pitcher should honestly be taken off the team.
tdotallstar It was obviously the whole pitcher, catcher, and coach after the team huddle. The catcher doesn't put up her glove, then turns and walks to the side before the pitch even hits the umps face mask.
tdotallstar Watch it again, the catcher drops her mitt and moves out of the way of the ball before it even crosses the plate. If that wasn't intentional then she must have had a sudden and intense bout of diarrhea.
And people wonder why we’re facing a shortage of Umpires. This guy handled it extremely well. Let the man do his job. Bickering from the stands and responding like this never results in anything positive and it isn’t necessary in youth sports at all. Sets a terrible example
As a former high school pitcher I don’t get the frustration. I had so many bad calls made for and against me. Even on my days on my traveling teams it happened. If you’re a good pitcher and you are always in the strike zone you have a tendency to get more close calls. In my opinion most umpires don’t call curve balls and sliders properly anyway.
You're the only jerk here Mike if you think this ok. I don't care if the umpire was the worst ever. You don't act like this. It's flagrant and malicious.
Scott Burns I think my comment ended up in the wrong thread. Some dude said he thought it was funny and I called him a jerk. To be clear: What the pitcher and catcher (and likely the coach) did was bush league garbage. I'm an umpire (baseball) and would be livid if a team did that. I'd toss people rather than walk off the field, though. Especially the catcher. She definitely goes first. When the coach comes out to argue s/he goes next. Then I warn the pitcher.
The blue shouldn't complain at all he should know he f up bad on that pitch that some times can cost a game, n its not just a game its baseball or softball m people go there to win if not stay home. Same goes when they dont know the rules, its a job i dont think they go and call games for free so they should read the book a lil everyday
@@carlosnoguez2405 what the fuck is wrong w you bud lol. if you think this is justified at all you’re just as much of a piece of shit as the coach is. this is wrong for the ump, this is wrong for all the kids watching, this is wrong for several reason. you and the coach should find a nice anger management class so you can plan your next bullshit softball cheap shot.
@UC8msDfuc7LijHZEyasEwC6A yeah its a game, but its his job to call right those pitches, there are so many rule that r not in the book. Like when ur team is loosing by a lot of runs in the last inning and the other team stole a base, u need to teach them that they can swing and win as much as they can but they need to respect the other team too. So its the pitchers job to put it in the next batter's ribs as hard as he can
@@carlosnoguez2405 are you serious dude ?? ... FFS - you shouldn't be anywhere near sports at any level with thoughts and an attitude like that .... crikey ....
I'm a paid umpire and let me tell you 99% of the times people argue they are WRONG. We spend countless hours reviewing the rules, going to clinics, and doing everything we can to be as prepared as possible. If you think you know the rules better you don't. If you think you can do a better job shut up, start umpiring, and prove it. Chances are you can't.
That pitch was down the middle at her belly button I’m pretty sure I’ll do way better job if u paid attention to the video the umpire had something against the team that fans even said “ok umpire you proved your point there’s bases loaded and the man still keeps walkin people ur a joke if u think that pitch wasn’t well deserved
@@giovannidevora8795 you are making an assumption based on a single pitch. From the video angle you can’t remotely tell height on the pitch which shows you are the biased person against sports officials. Way to expose yourself.
Yep that's it i'm out of here you want to hit me and be a jerk because I called a wrong call or maybe I saw it differently then you and you want to hit me in the face yep game over I'm out I'm not going to let you be in charge of me when I'm the umpre, - The Umpire
Totally inexcusable. I'm an umpire myself and at any level we all have made bad calls or calls that one side doesn't agree with. That's all part of being an umpire, but to intentionally cause injury that's totally unacceptable. The coach, catcher, and pitcher not only deserved to be ejected and have the game forfeited, but they all should've been arrested for assault.
One fast pitch mens rec league game I played in I had to catch. These are grown men windmilling softball and the umpire is garbage. Beyond the bad calls if any player outwordly disagreed with what he said he confronted them and made things escalate to the point where they were discussing "talking" "after the game". It got so bad from both teams that were disgusted with this ump that one person discussed doing this. Since i was catching im the one thats gotta miss so i looked that guy right in the eye and told him that i was not going to possibly hurt this guy over a freaking softball game. Turns out that a lot of other teams had issues so we discussed with league and he didnt umpire another game. THIS IS HOW YOU HANDLE A SHITTY COMBATIVE UMP. YOU DONT THROW AT HIM!
+Terry Hudson what i do not like is how you people pick and choose umpires cause you didn't agree with that side umpire doens't make him or her bad umpires which is pretty much what your saying
***** what im saying is good or bad umpires you dont throw at them. It is utterly clear of that in my first post. You chose as a player how you handle it regardless of who umps
You don’t get a strike call in a “game” and you are willing to severely -ignore- injure someone. That is the lowest of the low. No wonder there is an umpire shortage. If I did that on the street and threw a ball at someone’s face, I would only be playing ball with Bubba, Shark, and Mack.
@@aus71383 Even with a mask things can go differently and a soft ball could cause a stroke, heart attack, concussion, or even death. The coach, pitcher, and catcher can be charged with assault with deadly weapon, or even attempted murder. Doesn’t matter the setting, if you attempt to inflict any sort of physical harm on someone you are committing a crime.
Pitcher should be criminally prosecuted for assault with a dangerous weapon. Catcher and all players in the conference should also be prosecuted for conspiracy. Entire team should be disbanded and all players banned for life.
Coach should be suspended indefinitely from coaching, pitcher and catcher should be suspended for the rest of the year, and the whole team should be suspended from participating in any special tournaments and events for that year.
+Jack Coles Its just a stupid game. He missed a call but there is no reason to bean him in the head. Hopefully your just a troll and dont really believe what u said.
So immediate ejections for the pitcher and catcher and most likely for the coach. Not single game ejections, but season suspensions depending on the level of play; and this seems to be a fairly high level league. Not sure if it's a tournament, but if so, good chance the team forfeits at this point and goes home. And, BTW, the last pitch called a ball, looked distinctly like a ball on the inside.
I usually can't stand umpires, but I actually respect this ump for being so calm. That was dirty what that coach did. The players involved should be suspended for the season too.
Nah fuck that if your an ump don’t get emotional and make bad calls to intentionally throw a game, that shit was a blatant strike and it wasn’t the first time he made a call like that
I actually found the game and watch 20 minutes of the events that lead up to this. Maybe the umpire had a tight strike zone, wasn't calling the low strike and maybe even missed a couple of strike calls, but there was nothing intentional from the umpire where he was favoring one team. The coach that ordered that shouldn't be allowed to coach ever again. Not a great lesson to teach young players.
Is the guy in the crowd yelling "Okay, you've made your point!" at the ump? Was the ump being biased? Need back story. Either way what the pitcher did was dirty and unsportsmanlike.
I blame the pitcher/catcher as well. But, do not forget about the coach who probably put it in their heads. The catcher walks away at the same time the coach does, there was no way she and the pitcher would've had time to even think about it. This is just dirty.
Kent McGee it was the whole team when they had the meeting he told them to move, the ump was being biased the whole game, was it wrong yes but did he deserve it yes
Notice how coordinated this plan was. As the pitcher began her throw, the catcher moves away as to avoid catching it. Causing the ball to strike the umpire. This wasn't an accident and the move to leave the field by the umpire was justified. How anyone could go so far as to sully a great game like this is just disgusting. This was totally uncalled for.
I had this happen to me in baseball. Hot day, college baseball, important game and I was not adding to the strike zone when the pitching was sub par..... I got hit, on purpose and had to leave the game. It was.round robin post season tournament. I don't want to infer that my fellow umpires took umbrage........but they did.....
The catcher is an idiot, could have played it off but she made it extremely obvious that it was intentional. She could've pretended to go for it and "missed" and fell or something. It was very poorly done.
that first pitch was definitely a strike!! Covered the plate wasn't too high or low perfect pitch. if you mis close ones consistently one way or the other it works out but you can't miss pitches like that !
I'm glad that the second base umpire came in and ejected people. That is BULL and totally uncalled for!!!! They should have been forced to forfeit the game at that very point.
I'm a semi pro umpire for minor league baseball and I would of ejected the catcher pitcher and coach then no matter who wins the team that didn't plan that would of won
This was a 3 day travelers event where college coaches can come to scout players. The Cruisers were allowed to play their next 2 games the next day in this event. They finished 1-3. The Cruisers were not allowed to play at the next event. The ump lasted one more year before he hung up the blues. I'm glad this didn't hurt the girls chances later on. I understand some umps need a white tipped cane but this isn't the way.
My son (13) volunteered his time last week to umpire a little league game. We’re a small town. Only two teams so we do the best we can with what we have. Long story short some of the parents were chirping about balls and strikes…admittedly he had a couple bad calls. As I’m coaching 3rd I hear some snide remarks and explained to them that if they didn’t like the next time they are more than welcome to come ump the next game. People always want to complain but never want to do the job
My daughter was playing little league softball. The other team had to forfiet due to a lack of players, and since it wasn't an official game, the umpire had to leave. A couple dads and I decided we'd be happy to take turns calling balls and strikes, so the girls could at least scrimmage. I was behind the plate, and make a couple calls, and hear, "Oh c'MON! What are you doing?" I turn around and point at the guy and say, "You're turn to be behind the plate." The other dads on the field backed me up, and the dude sheepishly came out (he had some pride to save, it seems). It was glorious. He couldn't call balls/strikes to save his ass.
Your son's experience is typical...unfortunately. Parents and fans are going to ruin their own sport when young people don't start calling games; building their skills and experience, It's the only way to learn the job, but if parents and fans give the kids a hard time, they'll say F- it. I don't need this grief.
........so what will they do without officials?
Yea the point is at the end of the day, your son went out of his way to do a favor for the league and the parents acted like total ingrates in response.
The parents are too scared to do that, plus how would they get drunk in the stands umping the game?
My 16 year old daughter just finished her first year of umpiring girls 10U softball and I would go to her games as her “bodyguard”. One coach was complaining about every call that didn’t go his way all game and it was getting worse as the game went on. I’m watching and biting my lip and wondering when I should step in while still allowing the coach to be a coach. By the last inning he took it too far and he started yelling at her so I stepped in and introduced myself as her father and reminded the guy that it was 10 U softball and not game 7 of the World Series and that he was most likely the only person who cares about the final score. He kept his mouth closed the rest of the game and his assistant coach tried to tell me he was yelling at the other teams coach and not my daughter
that was cold blooded the way the catcher walked away BEFORE the ball even made it over the plate.
Wanted to make sure the message was received loud and clear .
That’s the catcher I want on my team
Pretty effective way to show the ump that the pitcher can put the ball where it's supposed to go. Hopefully he got the message.
@@notdan995 You know very little about sports with that idiotic post. Hopefully you have never or will coach a team. GFY
@@z1llaz1lla58 You want a catcher who will attempt to injure an official? GTFO.
I love how he immediately called the game, he was like: "Nope, "y'all done, go home" 😂😂
sour grapes by the ump. he cried himself to sleep that night
@@remydaitch9815 The sour grapes were by the coach and the players who deliberately attempted to injure an umpire who made a call they didn't like.
@@puckerings I say get rid of paid umps and force the parents to do the work. Problem solved.
Yeah have parents of both teams determine the outcome of games. That will be go over way smoother… or people could just act like adults.
@@remydaitch9815 you're stupid, umps are non bias.
*huddles in a group in the field*
*hits umpire with next pitch*
at least wait a few pitches if you're going to do it...
yea
Ain't nobody got time for that. Bases are loaded.
At least have the catcher make it seem like it gotta away from her.
We going to lose because of him a little retaliation
Frank Last They “lost” in a forfeit. No umpire would allow a game to continue when his or her safety is compromised by a bush league action like that. And if that league wants umpires, then they would be required to take action against that coach, since he clearly instructed the pitcher and catcher to do that. It’s no different than if the coach had punched an umpire. The face mask saves umpires from cranial fractures, but you feel it when you get hit like that, and usually that happens due to a foul ball that happens too quickly for the catcher to react.
It’s because of actions like this that leagues are having trouble finding officials to work their games. This wouldn’t be tolerated by NCAA or professional leagues. You think it should happen here?
@ 2:00 "That was obvious"
Exactly. There should be no argument here from anyone. Ump made the right call, and the coach from the other team should be fined for that. Those are kids playing ball for fun. Great lesson that coach is teaching them... What a clown!
yep --- but not fined ... banned for a very very long time (if not life) ....
fined? lol, the "coach" should be banned. poor kids, to have a mentor mislead them that way. what a coward
Do you also believe the pitcher & catcher should be fined & suspension? They could have said no but went along with it.
Coach gets dumb up
Those kids not playing for fun, and don't like participation trophies. You don't get rewarded just for showing up. You play to win and get rewarded for winning.
As an umpire instructor, I advise all my umpires to NEVER acknowledge the crowd.
Should I get ear plugs?
Completely agree. 25+ year umpire with international experience. Instructor and trainer for 15 years.
yeah .... cause that's this vid was all about .... crikey, the other team conspired to throw a ball at the umpires face and you talking about the umpire pointing downwards once when his back is turned to a mob of dickheads shouting at him .... wow
Do you advise umpires to call strikes when the ball goes over the plate at the proper level?
@@miker5667 idiots like you should be denied entrance to any game. You are the reason it is hard to find umpires. If you think you can do a better job, strap it on. If you don’t have the guts, shut the fuck up.
I’m a newer umpire but have been officiating ice hockey for many years. I tell the newer officials the same thing I live by:
1) always call a fair game no matter what and strive to call the best game you can
2) always admit and learn from your mistakes
3) always be a student of the sport, the day you stop learning how to be a better official is the day you need to stop being one
Ice hockey has to be one of the hardest sports to officiate, from someone who didn't start watching the NHL until I was 16, it's amazing how well the officiating is in the NHL.
Well said. I've been an umpire for 27 years and started at the bottom of youth baseball (now I do high school/JUCO only) and those are three great pieces of advice. The one thing I will add:
Set expectations! When you have your plate meeting with the coaches let them know what you expect. I always tell the coaches that we won't be arguing any balls/strikes or judgement calls. If they have a question about why a judgement call was made then come discuss it with me between innings. If it's a rules question, then by all means call a timeout and lets discuss it at that time. Otherwise, there will be no 'arguing' and that is their one and only warning. You say it in a very respectful way, let them know you are open to discussion but that you have set the parameters. By setting those expectations, coaches know what is acceptable when I'm umpiring a game. Finally, I let them know that they, as coaches, are responsible for their fan behavior. That usually limits any issues from fans (I don't pay any attention to fans during the game so it would have to be something pretty outlandish for me to notice anyway).
I always try to be invisible, but that's almost never completely possible. So, by setting those expectations up front you save yourself a lot of issues down the line.
@@BoomerKeith1 It is funny you bring that up. I have recently learned about and started addressing the “we aren’t arguing judgment calls” at the plate meeting. So far it has made a difference, I think….
Great advice though! Appreciate you sharing.
@@Monsiemage Ice hockey officiating is a blast once you get the foundational rules down. At that point you really just watch the game and penalties will just stick out to you. It’s fast paced but a lot of fun.
@@Haunter131313 It's amazing how much, having that brief conversation before the game, can help alleviate any issues. Sounds like you're off to a great start!
If I'm the rest of the team, I'm pissed off that my coach would ask my pitcher and catcher to do some crap like this. I want to play!
Dont play then. Go find another team. You've probably never played any sports. Imma always be down for my teammates. Let alone that was probably their Ace. Dont act like in professional sports other players dont stick up and support their best players. NFL does it with their QBs and even NBA does it with their franchise player. So the kids probably got on that mound and prob just said fuck this game. Sure no one should be targeted but you're an Umpire/Ref. The game is bigger than their petty emotions.
@@johnnykue379 Name a sport where assaulting a referee or umpire is something players do. They don't. It doesn't happen. Maybe they'll stick up for their teammates against other players, like if someone gets beaned or flagrantly fouled or something else egregious, but they don't do it to the refs. The refs are off limits and they should be at all levels. So you're right. "no one should be targeted but you're an umpire/ref." They should never, never, never be targeted.
@@johnnykue379 Ok, tough guy johnny...
@@johnnykue379 - Difference is, that team would probably be suspended.
@@johnnykue379You're right the game should be bigger than their petty emotions, so they should've grown the fuck up and not thrown a pitch at the umps skull. The coach needs to be fired and for a kid to actually fucking rocket that at an umps head? Probably a suspension if not banned.
A catcher on my team did this once (though it was significantly less obvious) and I remember feeling completely embarrassed. The umpire stood in front of the plate and quietly-but-clearly (and rightfully) ripped into my catcher. I hate seeing stuff like this.
My dad coached my team (at times) up to high school. If our catcher had ever done that, the catcher would've been off the team after that pitch. If he thought the pitcher had anything to do with it, he'd have been gone too. Would he have kicked me off the team if I did it? I think so and I certainly hope so.
Hahaha, weak.
Grow a set
@@Michael-cf9cj seems completely obvious that the coach told her to do that.
@@briangereau788 I don't think there's any doubt about that.
That manager should have been banned from coaching a least for a while. Teaches great sportsmanship.
For life.
Yes and the game should have immediately been forfeited, the opposing team should have been declared the winner regardless of what the score was at the time
Pitcher and catcher as well
throwing a softball at someones face intentionally is kinda a big issue should be blacklisted. if his protection failed he could of got a tbi, a concave face, or died.
This is so sad that I have no idea whether I should "like" or "dislike" this video. Kudos to the base umpire for excellent situation handling, and ending the game on behalf of the injured plate umpire.
injured by a softball wearing a metal mask? OK, Karen
@@devinthomas4866 A softball can be thrown quickly.enough to cause injury, particularly if thrown directly at someone's head. That a pitcher would intentionally throw at an umpire over a call she disagreed with (presumably on orders from her coach) is disgraceful. THAT is what most of the people watching this video are taking issue with.
@@devinthomas4866 Yes, it very well can hurt you. A ball hitting you straight in the face mask feels like a punch. You can snap your neck back pretty good, leaving you with a bit of whiplash. You can get a concussion. Contrary to your belief, softballs are not cottony pillows. They are still pretty damned hard. And a good softball pitcher can gun it up there pretty quickly.
@@devinthomas4866 Even with a mask on things can go differently and a soft ball could cause a stroke, heart attack, concussion, or even death. The coach, pitcher, and catcher can be charged with assault with deadly weapon, or even attempted murder.
@@christoffesedao3579 Then we should ban softball, sounds too scary
Imagine being an Angry Dad Coach and coming up with an evil plan to have your child's baseball team to Carry out! What a weirdo
He's closeted.
Props to how well the home plate ump took not only the bitchy comments from the crowd, but the beanbag to the noggin. He didn't angry or yell or gesticulate or even stare her down. He just walked away. Good on him.
Well...he deserved it.
Deserved it for what?
@@cool3929 you are so ignorant. grow up you twerp. you are playing a kids game, and you are wishing injuries upon another? ump could have filed assault charges on coach and pitcher/catcher. in some states assaulting a sports official is a felony...
@@cool3929 no he didnt deserve it and its wrong to teach kids that
Because he knew he deserved it
I like how the second base ump just starts pointing and tossing people
That was such an accurate throw to the Ump. Wow.
I think the point of the throw was a sort of "I'll show you how accurate I am and that your calls are bullshit." The way the people in the crowd were talking there is something we don't know that happened before.
bigpun8601 Yeah, because a crowd at a baseball game is the best barometer as to what happened. /s
There was no reason for those scumbags to drill the umpire like that, but dickheads like you are going to make excuses for them no matter what.
Burt Reynolds clearly there was a reason because they hit him.
do you think they are really just going to hit him for no fucking reason?
thatguywhohasthename Just because they're upset with the umpire does not give them the right to peg the ump......
Burt Reynolds Well I mean the motive was obvious: revenge against the ump for making at least one bad call. But that's horrible sportsmanship. The pitcher and catcher (and whoever else liked the idea) were pieces of shit for doing it and they deserve to be benched for a couple of games.
So childish of that team. They obviously discussed that in the huddle, and a high school girl or an old man can know that that's not right
Ump deserved it
Perfect example of toxic femininity.
That catcher should be benched for the whole year.( If this is a high school game) And that coach needs to be fired pronto.
@@dmzabo3914 wrong. The ump deserved it. What a bad call. If you can’t ump then get out or get hit.
@@RisitasKEKW You are so wrong! You probably approve of irate fans following the umpire to his car & beating the sh*t out of him.
It’s one thing for the coach to do this, but the fact he got the pitcher and catcher to do it as well is mind blowing
It’s not “mind blowing.” 🙄
The pitcher and catcher were the victims of that ump’s bad calls. What’s so “mind blowing” about it according to you? 🫵🏻🤡🥴
The coach is a horrible role model
Being an umpire is a lot harder than it looks. I just started with machine pitch and the amount of abuse you take from the coaches and the parents is insane for a kids game.
I just became one. I haven't umped a game yet. My wife thought I needed to go through it to learn to not be confrontational. LOL
I’ve refereed youth soccer, football and basketball. After watching a good friend umpire a kids baseball game and seeing the abuse he endured, I knew I’d never consider doing it.
i mean its really not a kids game
it depends on what league
It's sad, its baseball
I came from a baseball family and grew up playing baseball my whole life, this is one of the most disrespectful things I’ve seen on the field. Not only to the umpire but to the game itself as well.
F**k that umpire.
Ump deserved it.
You see what the Empire was doing He get when he deserves
@@yazoostreet2502 Lmfao a bad call doesn't mean bean the guy.
@@yazoostreet2502 yazozo, you try reffing a game and see how many people yell at you.
Another point that in my opinion highlights the professionalism of the umpire behind the plate is the fact that after getting hit, he took off his mask and walked away.
Clearly, after being heckled all game, the ump was furious that this team really went so low as to intentionally hit him with a pitch. Rather than make a scene he walked it off.
Good on the ump. Good officiating crew here. Perhaps not every call in the game was the correct call, but ladies and gentlemen that is the nature of the fucking game. Human error. If you don't like it stay away from sports. This team should enjoy a suspension from whatever league they play in and the coach should be banned from coaching in that league.
kinda looked like he was walking over to the coach though
Being a person that grew up with baseball, i have had my fair share of absolutely horrible calls. But I handle it with maturity and just walk it off. In the pro's you see umps make absolutely crappy calls, but how often do you see Cliff Lee talk to the catcher and say "When i pitch, move"
This little kid clearly hit the ump intentionally. And deserved for the game to end. Shit like this is just embarassing. Either argue with the ump yourself and nut up, or shut the fuck up and take the bad call. NEVER attack the people that control the games lol
mack720p You may be right man.
mack720p Yes, he walked over to the coach, and ended the game. You can’t tolerate this behavior from a youth league coach. That game ended in a forfeit.
Rj Bertram He did very calmly walk away from the plate. He went over to the coach and told him that he cost his team the game. The “dropped glove” was deliberate, and the game ended in a forfeit. At the very end, you can see the batting team walk off the field, and the base umpire moving toward the mound.
Umpires at this level are not going to allow themselves to be deliberately hurt. And this league will have to get tough with this kind of behavior, if they want umpires for their games.
Don't you just think it's hysterical that all the people near the camera berating the Umpire suddenly shut up when he walks off. They don't cheer for what the girls did or laugh at him for getting hit.
They know what the girls did was a extremely dirty tactic.
WhenTheSkyTurnsDark And the umpire (and anyone else there) knows that the coach directed his players to do it. In softball, the mound is much closer to the plate, and he might have overheard them, though the crowd was making a lot of noise. That was the last pitch in that game.
I was just thinking how quiet they got when that happened
Agreed
The other ump made a good call on the intentional hit in the face
From the crowd's reactions it sounds like the umpire was making bad calls, but even they knew the pitch intentionally aimed at the umpire. As an older gentleman who has umpired a hand full of games, you do it because you love the sport and enjoy watching others have fun. You get paid very little if at all, and you can easily get injured. I don't care what kind of calls he made before, but this last one was correct in ending the game.
Yes because crowds are always in the right?
The pitch they did show was low on the inside. He called it correctly.
@@matthewstump7563 - The view is a bit obscured, but the line of the ball looks to be over the plate if you look between the ump and the catcher. The catcher is to the right of the plate, and not centered. I think he called it incorrectly
Think this is bad, try reffing soccer.
Fans have no bias based on your comment...
Never is a sport so serious that a bad call or judgement warrants physicality as a response. And never is a coach so unqualified as one who promotes poor sportsmanship.
This game was obviously taped. File an appeal with the league if the umpire is as terrible as has been implied below. Use the tape as evidence. Otherwise, play the game well and accept the outcome. Don't ever respond with such poor sportsmanship as this.
Calling the game at that point was the only proper response next to ejecting the catcher and pitcher.
A bad call, no. poorly calling a game against your team, why not? Yes filing an appeal is the correct course of action but the reality is the game will be over by that point and at best the umpire will be suspended. Most likely nothing would happen to the umpire and it's not like they will get to play the game over again.
Call it bad sportsmanship if you want, others would call it standing up for your self. When so many calls are against your team, the umpire has negated the purpose of playing. He might as well say the other team wins so we can all go home.
Brandon Francey
Suspended? And you wonder why officiating at the pro level is so bad. School sports is where you cut your teeth,but the parents have such piss poor behavior Good officials up and quit.
Brandon Francey Yes it is bad sportsmanship. It is also criminal.
The "stand up" way to "stand up for yourself" is to follow all the appeal processes in the rule book. To physically assault someone is criminal, and anyone who doesn't "get" that needs to understand that before THEY end up in jail.
Of course it does how many times can you put up with an empire that makes bad calls time after time after time before you retaliate? Never! Always!
for a coach to instruct his player to do that, what a spineless coward...
A lot of baseball and softball dads around this level are former players who never made it past this level themselves, so this is their way of getting back at the umps who "prevented them from reaching their full potential", i.e. they are bitches
For a player to comply…..is a spineless coward
@@chrissmith7686 they’re both spineless cowards.
Maybe the umpire shouldn't be an astronomical piece of shit in the first place and none of this happens 🤷
@@chrissmith7686 They're kids still, we forget how it's like to be a kid, how impressionable we are to adults. Are these travel teams? Does that coach have influence over their hopes of playing college ball in the future? Are they afraid of their coach? The kids did the wrong thing, but they had an adult giving them bad instructions; this is on the coach, full stop.
The way the ump stood up was smooth as fuck like "yall done goofed now,
"I am too old for this shit"
hahahaha
OK in this video we saw all of one pitch and one girl walks we have no idea what happened before that and so all of you are encouraging the coach and the kids to head hunt the ump…..really great….
The umpire could've been calling an intentionally bad game all along and that doesn't excuse this behavior.
I reffed a AAU practice scrimmage game one time. I was assigned the job we had a missing ref for a scrimmage game. First play I blew an inadvertent whistle. I instantly had both teams parents cussing me out and screaming at me. I instantly took off my whistle put it on the floor and went and sat in the stands. Fuq that job!!
I can't believe some people are condoning that sort of reaction. Its always shameful to see mob mentality take over.
Sorry but he deserved it.
Richard Afflitto no one deserves that. Please grow up
@louie mcmullan I made this comment 6 years ago what the hell is going on?
@@cool3929 I feel sorry for your kid.
@@3-ddjr460 💁 facts are facts
My main question would be, “ what could you possibly gain by assaulting the umpire?”.
Education for that umpire, call your games right. If your favoritism is too obvious, your accident might be obvious too.
@@mr.j7792 Education? So, getting thrown out, forfeiting the game, and then being banned from future events is to teach the umpire a lesson? Clever.😂
@@thelowmax that’s why as a catcher we just let it happen when it’s clear bias and make it look accidental. I will tip a ball right into your groin with that glove “on accident “
Teach him a lesson to not intentionally make bad calls
@@mr.j7792 Some punk coach is gonna try it and perhaps the umpire will later retaliate with a gun. People that fuck around, find out.
So not gonna lie, this would be a temptation for sure. When I played, I was a catcher and it became my primary spot in HS. I’ve had plenty of bad umps who are not consistent; yes I have been tempted to do this. Definitely glad I didn’t, that can cause concussions.
But the fact that a coach made this call is absolutely embarrassing and says a lot about the kind of coach he is and the kind of players he is producing.
Horrid idea y agree but i get the feeling this ump was purposely not calling strikes.
@@brandonmartin4071 and you got that from a 3 minute video listening to the parents , ok ,
@@trumpisamoron1212 No, the pitch down the middle that was called a ball with the bases loaded. but good name by the way.
There are always 2 sides. This Ump may not have been calling the game fair and on the take. In that case, it's justice served
@@benbazy9238 not how that works. At the end of the day it’s a game and you don’t get to injure people because it’s not going your way. People with a mindset like yours shouldn’t be playing sports.
An umpire buddy had this happen to him and he calmly brushed the plate off and from then on his strike zone was smaller than the ball for that team. Good lesson.
Yeah, why call the game early? There just isn't a strike zone.
Thats what i plan on doing to my zone, should this happen to me. No place in the game for this, balls/strikes are all individual judgement calls..no 2 umpires have the same strike zone or you might as well have robots out there.
@@erikcarlson1318 Or get rid of ya'll and force the parent to ref their own games.
@@remydaitch9815that's a terrible idea. have the people so invested in the game they wanna fight an ump, officiate the game. That sounds like it would go way smooth.
great call by blue to end the game! adults acting like children as per usual.
In the UK, with kids sports, soccer, cricket, etc, there's a code of conduct that the parents who attend the matches have to sign up to; not to abuse the referees and umpires, not to use foul language, or belittle the players, or shout at or remonstrate with the staff. They must be supportive of the players and everyone taking part. If you break those rules, the organising authority (Local football association or local sports league) will ban you as a parent from attending anymore games. It's about time you got this into US Kids sports.
@@eddief32 if every American had the opportunity to visit the U.K. the U.S. would be a much classier place! My experience at least.
Nah, there's great reasons why the United States of America whipped GB to gain independence.
One of the dad's straight up says "that was obvious" ... wow sad all around for the players but especially for the Coach, he should set the example and overcome the obstacle/set back which was the run. but you do it as a team.
The umpire was deliberately calling balls even if they were in the strike zone, that’s why you hear a someone say “you’ve made your point” ump was screwing over a team. I don’t condone what they did to the ump but that dude was cheating that team.
That pitch certainly appeared to be a perfect strike...catcher didn't even have to try to frame it
@@rudysseus4410 so that make it justifiable?
@@rudysseus4410 The pitch seemed low, but there is no way from this camera angle to make a perfect assessment. As for accusing the ump for deliberately doing this how do you actually know? Just because a loud fan says “you Mede your point” does not determine what actually was happening.
I saw this happen to a younger umpire one time(it wasn’t even a obvious as this one) he took the pitch right to the head fell down. Got up calmly walked over to the coach and said you’re done. (It happened right after a mound visit) he then walked over and told Both the pitcher and catcher they were done. He waited 15 mins quietly with and ice bag on his jaw from where the ball hit him and play resumed. Coach was expelled from the league and the pitcher and catcher got 3 games suspended and had each write a letter of apology to the ump. Now I’ve been umpiring for over 20 years, and this younger umpire was maybe 21 or 22 at the time I wouldn’t have handled as well as he did.
Sometimes a statement has to be made to the umpire when he is calling a poor game. I have been a catcher for over 30 years (Little League, High School, College, and now Town Team) and I have let a couple of dozen balls or so go by over the years to let the ump get tagged. I have never been thrown out either. I also wouldn't allow a high pitch toward the umpire's head to go by, that is just plain dangerous and when I do let a pitch go by neither my coach nor my pitcher know I am going to do it. I set up outside and when the pitch goes inside I am "slow" to stab at it. I have had a few umps make remarks over the years but I just shrug my shoulders and tell them they know what the deal is. Maybe my being 6'7" 265 lbs makes a difference and maybe not.
@@thomasjoseph5876 if you purposely let an umpire get hit bc you don’t like how he’s calling a game you shouldn’t be playing sports. I don’t care if you didn’t let a high speed pitch go by or towards his head. That dangerous and I hope you don’t coach kids to do that either. You should be ashamed of yourself. I’ve caught my entire baseball career. I wasnt great but I never let a pitch go by on purpose to “send a statement” and if I ever did a game like that you would have been throw out. And I hope next time you do it (which I hope you don’t ever do again) you do get throw out.
@@lscales6131 If the ump is calling a bad or dirty game, perhaps it is HE who shouldn't be involved in sports. Most of the time when an ump does that it is because of a personal vendetta against a team or a coach. There is no room in sports for that kind of action. It's amazing how after getting tagged once or twice how the game suddenly gets called more fairly. Strike zones become the same size, close calls are called fairly, etc.
Yes, bad calls are part of the game, but when they are repeatedly and blatantly called against one team then the individual calling the game as an ump has no business in that position of authority. When a coach respectfully asks the ump for a clarification about a rule or a call and is suddenly ejected, that should not be happening.
@@thomasjoseph5876 you still shouldn’t purposely allow a hit to the umpire. Regardless how bad they are there are other ways to not get them to umpire. I’ve been umpiring for 20 years there is a procedure to get rid of bad umpires or get them more training.
@@lscales6131 Too much effort and takes too long. I prefer immediate results lol.
Can you imagine having a job where every single decision you make is instantly disputed and disliked by 50% of the players and 50% of the fans?
Unless you're Angel Hernandez, in which case your calls are disliked by everybody but himself.
So, like being the President? Worst job in the world... ugh, you couldn't pay be enough...
Well, the coach got what he wanted. Instead of digging in and trying strategy to make a come back he quit and gave up like a child. Good job coach, I'd never want to be on your team if things got "tough". You quit, sounds like a great way to rally a team.
I would hope all the parents in the stands would want their kids off the team. He's obviously a terrible role model.
I don't even know what's going on in this video can someone explain to me what I missed?
Team in black didn't like the calls the ump behind the plate was giving them. They had a little discussion, and that after that, the catcher stepped out on an easily catchable throw that ended up hitting the umpire in the head. The catcher could have and should have caught that pitch, rather than lowering her glove and bolting to the left, leaving the ump exposed. He could have been injured.
indiesol OH DAMN now I see it ... Those sneaky lil shits
Both umps should have walked off the field, got in their cars and gone home and let them call their own game.
That was a bitch move by those girls. In my 13 years of playing softball, I've come across MANY horrible umpires, but you do NOT conspire to assault ANY of them. They should be charged.
FU!
@@johnblechasgarage Are you related to the evil coach?
9 years later - saw it as a tiktok. Wondering how many of their following games had to be cancelled due to lack of umpires?
I know the guy in person. Great great man, he did not deserve this at all. And the stands didn't help at all.
Yes yes he did
@@Sir-Hash-A-Lot You deserve to take a pitch off the head without protection. Go on.
@@Sir-Hash-A-Lot Shame on you. If a coach is that upset about the calls, he needs to go out there make his point and get tossed without dragging his players into it.
Im sure treating misfortune against oneself with violence in turn is a trait we SO want our kids learning.. Yes, please, teach these kids it is okay to strike an adult because they dont like a judgement.. /sarcasm.
Just to pile on here...those "fans" in the stands are the ones that encouraged the coach to tell the players to do that, whether they realize it or not. By complaining constantly, they fed the frustration and added to it.
Absolutely disgraceful and the coach should be banned from ever coaching anything, ever
It was kinda funny
@@benbazy9238 It was kinda sh!tty and uncalled for. Those players were encouraged to act like that because the coach and the fans were not able to cheer for their team
@@bd5289 Yeah ummm you make no sense
@@benbazy9238 What a life you have, living as a troll. I'm so sad for you and your pathetic existence
I like how there is always a guy saying "what?" "what?"
I used to be a pitcher and my dad was a coach. Even if he told me to I would never throw a pitch purposely at an ump. I've umpired games before and it's a tough position. These girls and coach are pathetic.
Nothing wrong with sending a message to a shitty umpire.
+Brandon Hollingsworth WRONG!!!! If a player does that they should be suspended indefinitely (IF NOT banned for life). You NEVER disrespect a person of authority like that!!
+Brandon Hollingsworth TROLL☝
+lovesvideos247 respect is earned. The umpire was clearly being malicious and making bad calls to impact the game.
+Brandon Hollingsworth sounds like you don't know much about the game. If respect is earned, then these girls didn't earn it. Each umpire is different, for example, the umpire in the video probably had a smaller strike zone, seeing as the players are getting walked. Instead of talking to the umpire to figure out what kind of pitch he's looking for and adjusting, or putting in another pitcher, they threw it at him and probably got the catcher and coach kicked out of the game. It's very disrespecting and embarrassing of this team.
My daughter has played softball since she was 6, she's 14 now we have taught her to respect the umpires ,her coaches and the opposing team,if she was to be apart of something like that it would be the last time she played ball!
I was an umpire for a few summers, and I have no respect for any players who attempt to hurt officiators in any sport.
I was a baseball player for a few summers, and I have no respect for any officiators who attempt to hurt the game in any sport.
You wouldnt have the game if it wasnt for them.
Neither would you
surreal15m Baseball players have a game where they look and hire officiators, officiators don't go and look for players to hire and play a game.
WAS....an UMPIRE.... "FOREVER" a tool...!!!
If I were the parents of the catcher or the pitcher I would yank them off of the team, the program and tell them they would be unable to play sports for the rest of high school. The coach of course was a big part of it but for them to follow those directions? They know what is right vs wrong.
I might not go for the rest of highschool, but definitely the rest of that season.
ha youre obviously not a parent.
My daughter is a catcher and trained extensively by me and other coaches. I was about to show her this video and I told her... "watch this and tell me what you would do if you found yourself in this situation".
As soon as she saw it she said "I'd ask you to take me to another team immediately."
flexor212000 These are 18U aged girls and should've learned enough sportsmanship and responsibility to say NO when that ass wipe of a coach asked them to do this.
Matthew Williams This isn't school ball, this is travel select ball. Had it been school, ball the coach would've been fired and the players suspended indefinitely.
CHAD REISS Awwww, did your little feelings get hurt? Do you need a tissue, little girl?
Lennon Ward You know every one of those bitches parents will forever blame the umpire and not their stupid children. Their precious little snowflakes can do no wrong!
Actually a serious matter. Any team willing to do that is more than willing to hurt someone to prove a point. Remainder of schedule should be forfeited. Coach should not be allowed to coach for a few years. As well, the players, especially the catcher, should be forced to apologize and explain their actions to the umpire. I was on a team that did this to an umpire in junior college ball. It was a classless act.
should the ump have to apologize for being bad as well? lets keep standards balanced across the board.
@@ryan-5494 it looked low inside... you can not tell.
@@ryan-5494ah yes. What logic. He made a bad call, of course, the next action should be hit him with a pitch that could harm him. That makes total sense.
@jamesoshl9096 it was down the middle
Why should that whole team pay the price, just ban the coach and catcher and move on.
I cannot believe the number of people on this board who are either defending what this team did, or at the very least, justifying it by assuming that the umpire had it coming to him.
I'm guess that these are the leather-lunged Kens and Karens that make watching youth baseball/softball games so excruciating for those parents who come just to watch their kids play.
No. The people defending the team do know the game and do realize the ump had an agenda to screw this team. The ump most definitely deserved this. Not only does the ump need to open his eyes....you need to open your eyes. There is no way the ump missed that call....he did it on purpose. There are penalties to pay for screwing with the game.
@@RapIsDeadly your an idiot!!!! People like you are what’s wrong with sports today. In no way is the ok. I’m an umpire and I’m on the board for a local little league. If this happened to me, there would be suspensions and possibly removing the coach from his position. Unbelievable you are trying to justify that.
They're the same people that deny ballot box stuffing.
@@RapIsDeadly What trash stands up for trash my guy......the pitcher lost her full ride to Utah because of this. That's hilarious! Seems pretty fucking petty to teach a blue working/volunteering a TRAVEL TEAM series some mundane lesson....all because they "know" the game. GTFO with that.
@@RapIsDeadly You’re sick in the head and should never be allowed to be near young men or women
This is one of the most low class things you can do on a baseball field. You have a problem with the Ump, you get in his face and argue, you dont throw a ball at him. Pitcher/catcher/coach should be kicked out of the league.
Coach was a coward for having his players do that while not saying anything to the umpire himself. Shame on the girls for following through with a clearly unsportsmanlike reaction.
Can someone please explain to me why the batters left their bases during the timeout?
Thats absolutely pathetic. You can clearly see the catcher move out of the way and not even try to catch it. What the hell is wrong with kids sometimes? Where's the sportsmanship in that?
looked to me like the coach told them to do it, he called timeout and had a meeting on the mound. but ya i agree, that was BS
Serves the ump right. What an ass
@@jessicamessenger9804 You must be related to the pitcher. What they did was abhorrent. It's a game.
@@jessicamessenger9804 it was a ball. The shitty catcher did an even shittier job framing the pitch.
The guy at the end is the best "that was obvious..." lol
"Okay girls. We've just walked in a run. What's our strategy?"
"I know! What if we deliberately hit the umpire in the head the very next pitch?"
"Brilliant!"
This team is not just immoral, it's incomprehensibly stupid.
Thanks. I haven't laughed that hard in a long time!
This is today's society! Get pulled over by a cop... instantly start fighting with him about a $70 ticket. Don't like a SCOTUS decision...send in a democrRAT hit man. It's all reactions and acting like spoiled little children. Scream it's not fair. I'm (fill in the blank here)
As a former college softball player, catcher, and umpire...this just disgusts me! I don't care if every single pitch was down the middle, the call is what the umpire calls. You work around his zone. While he is wearing a protective facemask, that doesn't make it hurt any worse and a pitch at that speed can actually kill a person if it hits right! A softball pitched at 65 mph has the speed of a 90 mph baseball at the distance it is...just disrepectful and dangerous! I would have pulled the coach's license and the eligibility of the pitcher and catcher!
I agree and if people watched the whole game version you will see that the umpires zone was consistent. Bad Coaching, Bad example for our children!
Sam Hofer I agree with you all the way, but the pitch speed isn't actually like a 90 mph fastball, the reaction speed is just like a reaction of a 90 mph fastball. It would still feel the same as a 65 mph, but it could still hurt or kill someone
That has to do with reaction time... that doesn't mean its magically hits as hard as a 95mph baseball...
The catcher looked like she "yanked" or "pulled" the pitch up...which makes it look like a strike in the video, but honestly it didn't look that low. But maybe the umpire had been warning her all game to stop yanking the pitches...you keep doing that to me after I tell you to knock it off, I'm calling it a ball.
See, when you yank a pitch you tell everyone in the ballpark "Well, that pitch was a ball, but let me see if I can fool the umpire." Hey, if you think it's a ball, I'm going to agree with you ! "Ball!"
First, I wouldn't have left them out there yapping on the mound that long. When there's a conference, I dust off the plate slowly, peek back, if they are still there I start the slow walk to the mound. That sends the message, and usually they break it up.
Clearly the coach told the pitcher to throw at the umpire, and told the catcher to bail out. There's no other interpretation for what happened next.
But look at how long the kids were at the mound after the coach left. I'll bet they were talking about whether to do it or not -- but you know pyscho coaches go for those mind games - the kids were probably afraid to disobey.
Plate umpire should have immediately dumped the pitcher, catcher, and the coach, at a minimum. His partner did the right thing too.
The manager should be banned for life from coaching. I'd recommend at least a 1-game suspension for the pitcher and the catcher, but frankly I'd be wanting more than that, maybe even up to a season ban. Come back next year when you're had time to think about what you just did.
I've never seen this happen personally, but it's despicable on so many levels.
Yanking pitches up has been happening in the majors for a good while now.
Im torn because yea its wrong but that first pitch was a strike. I cant get past that. Why did he call it a ball?
Come on... you don't mess with rec sport officials. They know the game better than you, and are not even paid just trying to have some fun. The pitcher should honestly be taken off the team.
That was the catcher just as much as the Pitcher. It's also the coach.
That's all on the coach
Why? It was the catcher's fault
tdotallstar It was obviously the whole pitcher, catcher, and coach after the team huddle. The catcher doesn't put up her glove, then turns and walks to the side before the pitch even hits the umps face mask.
tdotallstar Watch it again, the catcher drops her mitt and moves out of the way of the ball before it even crosses the plate. If that wasn't intentional then she must have had a sudden and intense bout of diarrhea.
I like how they don't even fight back saying no it was not intentional and it was THAT intentional.
The fact that the catcher makes zero effort to even put her glove up there makes it undeniable.
Disgusting.
She didn't even pretend to miss the ball, she turned and ran before the ball got to the plate. I think she was showing it wasn't her idea.
Baseball dads are the worst. We had to leave a league when I was a kid because there were 2 fights
But softball dads are cool
We had 2 mother's Duke it out right in the parking lot and next to them the boys fighting also
Umm, that was women's softball. Where did dads come into play? Bad experience or just a man hater?
@@zjrkeith "where do dads come into play"? Pull your head out.
Obviously you haven’t met hockey parents.
And people wonder why we’re facing a shortage of Umpires. This guy handled it extremely well. Let the man do his job. Bickering from the stands and responding like this never results in anything positive and it isn’t necessary in youth sports at all. Sets a terrible example
I didn't see anything happen
Harassing the um is a baseball tradition that goes back from the beginning of the game
@@ronniejones8052 needs to end
As a former high school pitcher I don’t get the frustration. I had so many bad calls made for and against me. Even on my days on my traveling teams it happened. If you’re a good pitcher and you are always in the strike zone you have a tendency to get more close calls. In my opinion most umpires don’t call curve balls and sliders properly anyway.
This is appalling, what if he was seriously hurt or killed? Those girls would've never lived it down. That coach shouldn't be allowed near kids.
Maybe he would learn to make the right call
@@aw98000 ^ This person is the problem.
@@aw98000So, did you peak in grade school or high school?
he shouldn't be allowed to ump period. everyone in this game players, coaches, ump all terrible for the sport. let them have tantrums
Believe what you want about the umps calls you can't justify that.
Bighunter 20 Then you're a jerk.
You're the only jerk here Mike if you think this ok. I don't care if the umpire was the worst ever. You don't act like this. It's flagrant and malicious.
Scott Burns I think my comment ended up in the wrong thread. Some dude said he thought it was funny and I called him a jerk.
To be clear:
What the pitcher and catcher (and likely the coach) did was bush league garbage. I'm an umpire (baseball) and would be livid if a team did that.
I'd toss people rather than walk off the field, though. Especially the catcher. She definitely goes first. When the coach comes out to argue s/he goes next. Then I warn the pitcher.
@Puckman637 Yeah, you're probably right. Coach, too.
Can't justify intentionally making bad calls
Respect to the ump for containing himself like that and just walking off. That could've gotten a lot worse very quickly.
The blue shouldn't complain at all he should know he f up bad on that pitch that some times can cost a game, n its not just a game its baseball or softball m people go there to win if not stay home. Same goes when they dont know the rules, its a job i dont think they go and call games for free so they should read the book a lil everyday
@@carlosnoguez2405 what the fuck is wrong w you bud lol. if you think this is justified at all you’re just as much of a piece of shit as the coach is. this is wrong for the ump, this is wrong for all the kids watching, this is wrong for several reason. you and the coach should find a nice anger management class so you can plan your next bullshit softball cheap shot.
@UC8msDfuc7LijHZEyasEwC6A yeah its a game, but its his job to call right those pitches, there are so many rule that r not in the book. Like when ur team is loosing by a lot of runs in the last inning and the other team stole a base, u need to teach them that they can swing and win as much as they can but they need to respect the other team too. So its the pitchers job to put it in the next batter's ribs as hard as he can
I don't know how I would've reacted in his place.
@@carlosnoguez2405 are you serious dude ?? ... FFS - you shouldn't be anywhere near sports at any level with thoughts and an attitude like that .... crikey ....
Does anyone know the consequences besides them forfeiting? Suspensions? Expulsions?
I'm a paid umpire and let me tell you 99% of the times people argue they are WRONG. We spend countless hours reviewing the rules, going to clinics, and doing everything we can to be as prepared as possible. If you think you know the rules better you don't. If you think you can do a better job shut up, start umpiring, and prove it. Chances are you can't.
That pitch was down the middle at her belly button I’m pretty sure I’ll do way better job if u paid attention to the video the umpire had something against the team that fans even said “ok umpire you proved your point there’s bases loaded and the man still keeps walkin people ur a joke if u think that pitch wasn’t well deserved
@@giovannidevora8795 you are making an assumption based on a single pitch. From the video angle you can’t remotely tell height on the pitch which shows you are the biased person against sports officials. Way to expose yourself.
Yep that's it i'm out of here you want to hit me and be a jerk because I called a wrong call or maybe I saw it differently then you and you want to hit me in the face yep game over I'm out I'm not going to let you be in charge of me when I'm the umpre, - The Umpire
@Joel Zand Learn how to read
1:59--The game is called. I'm still not sure what was happening...
Kudos to that umpy for keeping his composure! Not sure I could have done that!
Totally inexcusable. I'm an umpire myself and at any level we all have made bad calls or calls that one side doesn't agree with. That's all part of being an umpire, but to intentionally cause injury that's totally unacceptable. The coach, catcher, and pitcher not only deserved to be ejected and have the game forfeited, but they all should've been arrested for assault.
So what happens, does the Ump notify the league
One fast pitch mens rec league game I played in I had to catch. These are grown men windmilling softball and the umpire is garbage. Beyond the bad calls if any player outwordly disagreed with what he said he confronted them and made things escalate to the point where they were discussing "talking" "after the game". It got so bad from both teams that were disgusted with this ump that one person discussed doing this. Since i was catching im the one thats gotta miss so i looked that guy right in the eye and told him that i was not going to possibly hurt this guy over a freaking softball game. Turns out that a lot of other teams had issues so we discussed with league and he didnt umpire another game. THIS IS HOW YOU HANDLE A SHITTY COMBATIVE UMP. YOU DONT THROW AT HIM!
thank you!
+Terry Hudson your full of crap terry you can't pick and choose umpires not how the world works
+Christopher C but you can pick and choose how you handle the situation which is what I said. reading comprehension is tough right?
+Terry Hudson what i do not like is how you people pick and choose umpires cause you didn't agree with that side umpire doens't make him or her bad umpires which is pretty much what your saying
***** what im saying is good or bad umpires you dont throw at them. It is utterly clear of that in my first post. You chose as a player how you handle it regardless of who umps
You don’t get a strike call in a “game” and you are willing to severely -ignore- injure someone. That is the lowest of the low. No wonder there is an umpire shortage.
If I did that on the street and threw a ball at someone’s face, I would only be playing ball with Bubba, Shark, and Mack.
injure* your grammar was corrected by a Dyslexic
what
ignore someone?
on the street people aren't wearing pads and masks
@@aus71383*injure*
@@aus71383 Even with a mask things can go differently and a soft ball could cause a stroke, heart attack, concussion, or even death. The coach, pitcher, and catcher can be charged with assault with deadly weapon, or even attempted murder. Doesn’t matter the setting, if you attempt to inflict any sort of physical harm on someone you are committing a crime.
@C Preacher Do you really wish that you had achieved revenge? Being cheated definitely sucks, but do you truly believe revenge is the answer?
I know this is strange but what I noticed is he has his indicator in the wrong hand
good job on the infield ump for tossing the coach and catcher
Perfect. Pitcher catcher, and coach deserve to be tossed. Game should be ended right there.
i believe it did end after that
Pitcher should be criminally prosecuted for assault with a dangerous weapon. Catcher and all players in the conference should also be prosecuted for conspiracy. Entire team should be disbanded and all players banned for life.
And their firstborn children so also be forfeited to the league....you forgot that one.
I would have zero problem with the pitcher being irreversibly sterilized while in prison.
As a parent, I would have pulled my girls from the team for the season. All this taught the girls was violence.
This is just wrong. That coach should be banned from ever coaching again. Complete Disgrace
Coach should be suspended indefinitely from coaching, pitcher and catcher should be suspended for the rest of the year, and the whole team should be suspended from participating in any special tournaments and events for that year.
+Trenton Pottruff fuck that umpire
Jack Coles As bad as he was (I assume) the actions of the team were not justified and show absolutely no sportsmanship.
+Jack Coles Its just a stupid game. He missed a call but there is no reason to bean him in the head. Hopefully your just a troll and dont really believe what u said.
Jack Coles *Spoken like a rational person who doesn't resort to violence just because they are pissy
violence?
I THOUGHT THIS WAS AMERICA!
What the heII does that mean?
Joe Tore It's from an episode of South Park involving over-involved little league parents.
pooinsky it’s not. It’s murica
I legit laughed out loud..
DdotDubbs like totally legit me too!
So immediate ejections for the pitcher and catcher and most likely for the coach. Not single game ejections, but season suspensions depending on the level of play; and this seems to be a fairly high level league. Not sure if it's a tournament, but if so, good chance the team forfeits at this point and goes home. And, BTW, the last pitch called a ball, looked distinctly like a ball on the inside.
Why should the pitcher be punished, it’s the catcher’s job to protect the ump.
I usually can't stand umpires, but I actually respect this ump for being so calm. That was dirty what that coach did. The players involved should be suspended for the season too.
That's deliberate assault kid.
Nah fuck that if your an ump don’t get emotional and make bad calls to intentionally throw a game, that shit was a blatant strike and it wasn’t the first time he made a call like that
@@pgood7266 so you tell a teen to intentionally hit the ump, I'd tell my daughter to throw over at you at 3rd and hit you in the face
@@pgood7266 Nah, even if the ump made bad calls that is dirty! Hitting the ump belongs nowhere in any game
@@michaeljordan317 if the ump is a douchebag he deserves it
I actually found the game and watch 20 minutes of the events that lead up to this. Maybe the umpire had a tight strike zone, wasn't calling the low strike and maybe even missed a couple of strike calls, but there was nothing intentional from the umpire where he was favoring one team. The coach that ordered that shouldn't be allowed to coach ever again. Not a great lesson to teach young players.
The strike zone doesn't move
@@doodlebob3374 The strike zone moves for every batter. Derp.
When did Angel Hernandez start doing softball?
Is the guy in the crowd yelling "Okay, you've made your point!" at the ump? Was the ump being biased? Need back story. Either way what the pitcher did was dirty and unsportsmanlike.
What about the catcher? Clearly she was in on it too. She could've caught the ball but dodged it instead.
Dennis Chaves Lol, she started moving out of the way before the pitcher even let go of the ball
I blame the pitcher/catcher as well. But, do not forget about the coach who probably put it in their heads. The catcher walks away at the same time the coach does, there was no way she and the pitcher would've had time to even think about it. This is just dirty.
Kent McGee it was the whole team when they had the meeting he told them to move, the ump was being biased the whole game, was it wrong yes but did he deserve it yes
Notice how coordinated this plan was. As the pitcher began her throw, the catcher moves away as to avoid catching it. Causing the ball to strike the umpire. This wasn't an accident and the move to leave the field by the umpire was justified. How anyone could go so far as to sully a great game like this is just disgusting. This was totally uncalled for.
I noticed that as well. The catcher moves off the field before the ball even left the pitchers hand.
The coach went out and told them to do it I bet
So what happened? Why did they stop the game?
If there was any college scouts in the stands I know who they aren't signing and communicating to other scouts who not to sign
Is that....a baseball field built to look like Fenway Park??
So who won the game?
I had this happen to me in baseball. Hot day, college baseball, important game and I was not adding to the strike zone when the pitching was sub par..... I got hit, on purpose and had to leave the game. It was.round robin post season tournament. I don't want to infer that my fellow umpires took umbrage........but they did.....
Good
The catcher is an idiot, could have played it off but she made it extremely obvious that it was intentional. She could've pretended to go for it and "missed" and fell or something. It was very poorly done.
that first pitch was definitely a strike!! Covered the plate wasn't too high or low perfect pitch. if you mis close ones consistently one way or the other it works out but you can't miss pitches like that !
I'm glad that the second base umpire came in and ejected people. That is BULL and totally uncalled for!!!! They should have been forced to forfeit the game at that very point.
They were, the base ump called the game.
I'm a semi pro umpire for minor league baseball and I would of ejected the catcher pitcher and coach then no matter who wins the team that didn't plan that would of won
+Billy Simons Are you a semi-pro English speaker?
nope
+Billy Simons Your sentence is unreadable without comma's.
i didnt know a sentence needed commas
Not all do, but yours did.
This was a 3 day travelers event where college coaches can come to scout players. The Cruisers were allowed to play their next 2 games the next day in this event. They finished 1-3. The Cruisers were not allowed to play at the next event. The ump lasted one more year before he hung up the blues. I'm glad this didn't hurt the girls chances later on. I understand some umps need a white tipped cane but this isn't the way.
1:35 for the actual hit.