@@helpmeinburning I don't make them public because I'm sick of sad nerds bringing up a parse from 3 years ago of me casting a spell at the wrong time 🤣
Thank you very much for putting the effort in to make this well-done guide. I also am very appreciative of you including all the add-on links. Super helpful!
I'm really confused on the snapshotting section. Most spriests are sitting around that 1k spellpower area in Kara/crafted gear. Snapshoting is an important part of playing a spriest, you're going to want to be doing it whenever your icon comes back, and hope you get a spellstrike ot T5 proc for your refresh.
Is there any chance you could do a five man dungeon lets say Hell Fire with some mates and go through the whole dungeon while explaining what you're doing and why. Show us what you mean by dotting and when not to dot, show us what you mean by refreshing and when not to refresh. When to use ShadowFiend since it has a 5 minute cooldown I take it it's only on bosses but then what if you get to the next boss within 5 minutes ? Just a simple example, running a dungeon SHOWING us the basics in that order and why.
hey there! i'm trying out the macro for the shadowfiend and kibler's bits; however, when i use it, it says "You do not have a pet." and the Kibler's bits don't get consumed. Any ideas what I did wrong? i've double checked what you wrote for the macro
So the information in your race section only focused on damage? For the Alliance, Draenei are best for raiding because Symbol of Hope is always relevant. Night Elf Starshards is a negligible increase to damage correct?
symbol of hope is also dogshit thought tbh the mana regen isnt much and when is it every really needed? dps and healers who run out of mana are bad at their class.
Did you forget what the role of a shadow priest is? Mana regen for the healers/dps is the main reason for bringing shadow priest(s). It's certainly not for their damage capability. There is an argument for when Symbol of Hope is most useful or needed. Maybe only for progression raiding. To claim it's "dogshit" is simply wrong... and crass.
@@o0MINDGAME0o I hit 1.4k on Gruul last week and was 4th overall DPS. I was top 5 in SSC the other night. There are 3 reasons to bring a shadow priest. 1. DPS. 2. debuff utility for warlocks. 3. Mana/HP regen. My raid group is an ele shaman, a shadow bolt lock, an arcane mage and another mage or a boomkin. All 5 of us are easily in the top 5 DPS. We end fights on full mana, including myself, because we know what to do and when to do it. As far as racial....1. Undead for Devouring Plague. If you choose to go alliance, NE for star shards. More DPS is always preferable to stats that can be made up elsewhere, either talents, consumes, or group comp.
@@b1oh1 This late in the phase anyone with gear are hitting similar numbers. Content is on farm so many, sub-optimal raid comps and strategies are viable. Ultimately, a single shadow priest's dps contribution from Starshards is insignificant from the potential output of their group as a whole. On progression, if a raid has a fight that lasts longer than 5 minutes (which many are or will be for most raid groups), Symbol of Hope can provide nearly 10k mana for their group. That's arguably more beneficial than Innervate due to combined output.
Great vid! My dps has gone up after clipping mind flay. But, I'm curious about snapshotting dots... you say it's only worth it when you have over 1000 spell power and that wont be until WotLK... I have almost 1300 spell power now, and I'm not even 100% minmaxed?
I'm not a pro like metagoblin but as far as I know it's all about timing.. You don't want to clip your dots (meaning redot right before they hit again) althouh I recast VT if I know mind blast casting takes longer then it's up. Mana is an important factor aswell in longer fights
You always refresh your dots after they expire in TBC (and until wotlk) unless you know you cant take part in the Fight for some time (Maggi cube, gruul stun)
Skipping on the one point and Shadow weaving is kind of selfish I know you say you can maintain the buff but the ramp up of the stacks is still slower therefore your rate is missing out on damage all because you want one extra point so that you can make your own personal damage look good
It is but the difference is so marginal that's honestly not worth going for especially since you will need 4 piece and you will be going back to spell strike (or astromancer legs+ cowl of the grand engineer) as soon as phase 3 hit's because of the 12+ spell power gems that get added since tier 5 doesn't have that many gem slots. If your in a loot council or DKP guild you are far better off skipping on most items and grabbing stuff when the real upgrade arrive.
@@rune7683 well said yes it’s a slight upgrade in sustain but big damage if you look at the gear breakdown frozen frost weave and spellstrike have more spell damage
I main a shadow priest. I was number 4 on DPS in Gruul last week with 1.4k DPS. I'm not even totally BiS. Definitely not a meme spec. It never was tbh. Even back in my vanilla days, I was in the top 10 DPS in MC and BWL.
Just gonna say, the stat prio lists that are just stat 1>stat 2>stat 3 are kinda bad. If you don't give relative weights there really isn't any way to compare the stats. What if stat 1 is 4% better per point than stat 2 and stat 3 is 40% worse per point? Because a stat is never infinitely better than another stat unless that stat is totally useless in a given context.
I found your logs. I do 100 more dps than you in grull wich is the best exemple of our potential in term of pure dps. I'm absolutely not saying i'm better than you but i'm doing snapshot dotting. Do you still think it is wrong ? I will stop if it's a bad habit.
my logs aren't public so you're looking at the wrong guy :P I would ask on the priest discord about it because 90% of them get the pitch forks out when someone every mentions snapshot dotting haha
Really? Jesus fuck, this comment "i did 100 more dps". Here are some questions. Did you guys have similar gear? Were your kill times the same? Did you have the same raid comp? Group comp? What were debuffs? What were debuff uptimes like? Did people die that effected buff/debuff uptime? Did you have the same buffs? There are so many different factors. Also snapshotting is iffy AF. Really only good if you have a significant amount of spell power buffs and its on like the last tick. Just Silver crescent by itself is not worth to cut the final tick off.
@@bandit7459 Why are you so upset ? I'm a noob in wow i just try to undersand because it's hard to find the good informations out there. We have the same stuff, my skill about reading logs are pretty basic.
@@MetaGoblin I found them anyway and i'm not a hacker or something lol. Your last grull Monday August 09 2021 you did 1063,7 dps, you were 96,31% active etc etc. But it's not the subject anyway , thank's for the answer
Timestamps
0:19 Intro
0:55 Races
2:22 Talents
5:25 BiS Gear and stats explained
8:15 Gems and Enchants
8:24 Rotation and dps tricks
15:47 Addons
16:24 Macros
17:36 Consumes
18:05 Professions
Link your parses please
@@helpmeinburning I don't make them public because I'm sick of sad nerds bringing up a parse from 3 years ago of me casting a spell at the wrong time 🤣
@@MetaGoblin 14:15 addon name castbar?
@@MetaGoblin ay
I start playing Spriest tomorrow and you know this is the first guide I went to!
Thank you very much for putting the effort in to make this well-done guide. I also am very appreciative of you including all the add-on links. Super helpful!
I appreciate the change from the first video swapping from wand spec to unbreakable will. This is a much better talent breakdown.
I just wanna say, I love the Fable music. LOL
thank you, my friend. very much
i can't find a video to show what spells to use in what order when you first arrive in HFP and are solo lvling
The Plater Profile is currently not working anymore. Thought I'd point that out since everything else seems tip top.
I'm really confused on the snapshotting section. Most spriests are sitting around that 1k spellpower area in Kara/crafted gear. Snapshoting is an important part of playing a spriest, you're going to want to be doing it whenever your icon comes back, and hope you get a spellstrike ot T5 proc for your refresh.
Hi appreciate the vid but i cannot find the dl for the casting bar. Thanks!
Is there any chance you could do a five man dungeon lets say Hell Fire with some mates and go through the whole dungeon while explaining what you're doing and why.
Show us what you mean by dotting and when not to dot, show us what you mean by refreshing and when not to refresh.
When to use ShadowFiend since it has a 5 minute cooldown I take it it's only on bosses but then what if you get to the next boss within 5 minutes ?
Just a simple example, running a dungeon SHOWING us the basics in that order and why.
hey there! i'm trying out the macro for the shadowfiend and kibler's bits; however, when i use it, it says "You do not have a pet." and the Kibler's bits don't get consumed. Any ideas what I did wrong? i've double checked what you wrote for the macro
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Hi @MetaGoblin! Im playing on TBC right now, are the BiS items still up to date?
This guide holds up but go on wowhead for later phase bis lists I'm pretty sure they were maintained by the priest class discord.
@@MetaGoblin will do that, thank you!
Hey, im having problems with downloading the cast bar and the multi dot timer, are they on curse forge? Can anyway one hope x
So the information in your race section only focused on damage?
For the Alliance, Draenei are best for raiding because Symbol of Hope is always relevant. Night Elf Starshards is a negligible increase to damage correct?
symbol of hope is also dogshit thought tbh the mana regen isnt much and when is it every really needed? dps and healers who run out of mana are bad at their class.
Did you forget what the role of a shadow priest is? Mana regen for the healers/dps is the main reason for bringing shadow priest(s). It's certainly not for their damage capability.
There is an argument for when Symbol of Hope is most useful or needed. Maybe only for progression raiding. To claim it's "dogshit" is simply wrong... and crass.
@@o0MINDGAME0o I hit 1.4k on Gruul last week and was 4th overall DPS. I was top 5 in SSC the other night. There are 3 reasons to bring a shadow priest. 1. DPS. 2. debuff utility for warlocks. 3. Mana/HP regen. My raid group is an ele shaman, a shadow bolt lock, an arcane mage and another mage or a boomkin. All 5 of us are easily in the top 5 DPS. We end fights on full mana, including myself, because we know what to do and when to do it.
As far as racial....1. Undead for Devouring Plague. If you choose to go alliance, NE for star shards. More DPS is always preferable to stats that can be made up elsewhere, either talents, consumes, or group comp.
@@b1oh1 This late in the phase anyone with gear are hitting similar numbers. Content is on farm so many, sub-optimal raid comps and strategies are viable.
Ultimately, a single shadow priest's dps contribution from Starshards is insignificant from the potential output of their group as a whole. On progression, if a raid has a fight that lasts longer than 5 minutes (which many are or will be for most raid groups), Symbol of Hope can provide nearly 10k mana for their group. That's arguably more beneficial than Innervate due to combined output.
Hei mate how can i add mind blast to the CD tracker weakaura please? :D
Question, does the Shadoweave set(lvl 33+) worth crafting and using while leveling?
+7 and shadow spell +21, Robe stats, rest are similar.
I know this set is good for Warlocks, but wondering if Shadow priest to.
The shadow weave set should be level 70 in TBC. Sounds like you're referring to retail in which this guide is pretty irrelevant
Great vid! My dps has gone up after clipping mind flay. But, I'm curious about snapshotting dots... you say it's only worth it when you have over 1000 spell power and that wont be until WotLK... I have almost 1300 spell power now, and I'm not even 100% minmaxed?
He means +1000 spell damage from trinkets etc on top of your base 1300 dmg. Although I don't agree with him.
where is the full list of macros?
Im having Trouble leveling in lvl 20 and hate IT atm cant solo any harder quest
Does anyone have the link for the priest discord?
wouldnt the dark iron smoking pipe be better than the eye of mag? also what is the priest discord?
Yes dark iron pipe is better than eye of mag in my experience
cast bar addon?
so shadow set from tailoring is not BIS ??????????
@metagoblin
sry why would you show ppl the wrong BIS list if you show later the bis gear in a tailoring section
@@etusj.g.9535 Tailoring boots will still be bis in phase 2
@@MetaGoblin they are even in t6 bis as i know, and chest is still bis in t5
@@MetaGoblin as i know is spellstrike set and shadow set from tailoring bis in t4 AND t5
do you refresh dots before they expire or after?
I'm not a pro like metagoblin but as far as I know it's all about timing..
You don't want to clip your dots (meaning redot right before they hit again) althouh I recast VT if I know mind blast casting takes longer then it's up. Mana is an important factor aswell in longer fights
You always refresh your dots after they expire in TBC (and until wotlk) unless you know you cant take part in the Fight for some time (Maggi cube, gruul stun)
clip ?
Why are guides suggesting going for T5 4pc? Spellstrike / Frozen Shadoweave bis till T6
I was bummed they fixed the SWD Macro. I have been parsing high 90s this past month
What was the macro?
@@Ewhit-je3os there was a SWD macro that cancelled the part of the spell where you take damage so you would just use it on CD with no damage taken
You should be able to use it on cd without worrying about health in almost all cases anyways, save for a few specific raid encounters
Skipping on the one point and Shadow weaving is kind of selfish I know you say you can maintain the buff but the ramp up of the stacks is still slower therefore your rate is missing out on damage all because you want one extra point so that you can make your own personal damage look good
Your own personal DPS is your group's MP5.
Man, you really have to stop it with Fable music, cause I keep hearing Guild Master's voice in my head
is t5 4set bonus really better than spellstrike set bonus?
It is but the difference is so marginal that's honestly not worth going for especially since you will need 4 piece and you will be going back to spell strike (or astromancer legs+ cowl of the grand engineer) as soon as phase 3 hit's because of the 12+ spell power gems that get added since tier 5 doesn't have that many gem slots. If your in a loot council or DKP guild you are far better off skipping on most items and grabbing stuff when the real upgrade arrive.
@@rune7683 well said yes it’s a slight upgrade in sustain but big damage if you look at the gear breakdown frozen frost weave and spellstrike have more spell damage
@@HTSWAGGER Debatable, the bonus seems very good proc chance 40% over 5% with spellstrike and some more spell power.
First! Love the content btw!
I main a shadow priest. I was number 4 on DPS in Gruul last week with 1.4k DPS. I'm not even totally BiS. Definitely not a meme spec. It never was tbh. Even back in my vanilla days, I was in the top 10 DPS in MC and BWL.
That’s huge cope man vanilla shadowpriest was a meme for pve
Just gonna say, the stat prio lists that are just stat 1>stat 2>stat 3 are kinda bad. If you don't give relative weights there really isn't any way to compare the stats. What if stat 1 is 4% better per point than stat 2 and stat 3 is 40% worse per point? Because a stat is never infinitely better than another stat unless that stat is totally useless in a given context.
I found your logs. I do 100 more dps than you in grull wich is the best exemple of our potential in term of pure dps. I'm absolutely not saying i'm better than you but i'm doing snapshot dotting. Do you still think it is wrong ? I will stop if it's a bad habit.
my logs aren't public so you're looking at the wrong guy :P
I would ask on the priest discord about it because 90% of them get the pitch forks out when someone every mentions snapshot dotting haha
Really? Jesus fuck, this comment "i did 100 more dps". Here are some questions. Did you guys have similar gear? Were your kill times the same? Did you have the same raid comp? Group comp? What were debuffs? What were debuff uptimes like? Did people die that effected buff/debuff uptime? Did you have the same buffs?
There are so many different factors.
Also snapshotting is iffy AF. Really only good if you have a significant amount of spell power buffs and its on like the last tick. Just Silver crescent by itself is not worth to cut the final tick off.
@@bandit7459 Why are you so upset ? I'm a noob in wow i just try to undersand because it's hard to find the good informations out there. We have the same stuff, my skill about reading logs are pretty basic.
@@MetaGoblin I found them anyway and i'm not a hacker or something lol. Your last grull Monday August 09 2021 you did 1063,7 dps, you were 96,31% active etc etc. But it's not the subject anyway , thank's for the answer
Huh that does sound really angry. I'm generally blunt as hell, but not angry. Regardless the questions and statements about logs were valid.
FUCK YES
If your not in a fast boss killing guild your parse is horrible as a spriest. If not for BGs spriest would suck.