Oh really? Go look at Carzone or the VW website so d-head. There’s a used one for almost 90k, nevermind new. Who is the fool again? W⚓️ www.carzone.ie/search/3815309/advert
A price of 60k makes sure, that many of the old farts, that couldn't afford one when they were young, still can't afford one today. Thanks VW, maybe you deserve, what's coming to you.
I just stumbled upon your channel whilst looking up Mk 8.5 gti and I have to say I very much enjoyed your commentary. It is quite thoughtful and very well spoken. Cheers!
A Mk 7 or 7.5 with a virtual dash would be my preference….. i drive a car with a similar dash setup as the MK and I abhor the big central display….. it’s unnecessary and a monolithic carbuncle in the centre of modern cars…. It add complexity to control and looks like it was designed by a 7yr old….
Greetings from Canada. I configured my own GTI with all the options I would like on Volkswagen Ireland's website and got mine to just under £65k. It is mind boggling to see that amount you guys pay for a Golf. After conversion, it is just under $99k CAD. For that amount of money, I could get a fully optioned out BMW M2 or a base M3. That is wild!!
I’m in the USA and bought my 2023 GTI 40th AE manual with the DCC, and yeah, with a 10 year dealer warranty and lifetime drivetrain warranty for $36K. Not sure what that equates to in pounds or euros, but I can tell you, it’s the most fun car I’ve ever driven. Just to be safe, I change the oil and filter every $3K miles as I plan to keep it a long time. I believe it will be a classic. And most days I drive it very civilly, but every so often, I get rowdy with it. It’s just enough power for great fun, but not enough for you to get yourself into trouble. A beautiful platform that just does everything so well. Nothing from Asia feels like it, and here the other day after a long road trip, I got 40.1 mpg (not sure what that equates to with your measurements, but it is almost as good as I got on my standard 2017 Golf I once owned). Just a joy to drive for me, an old guy! And BTW, no problem at all with the infotainment system other than the occasional connectivity problem with Apple CarPlay Bluetooth. I feel we made a wise purchase.
ICONIC! THE Standard bearer! The ultimate Q car . Amazing. Take this over anything Porsche produce. Had a MK 1 many years ago... Stays with you forever.
The reason VW didn’t make a manual is because people don’t buy them. I read a review the other day where the reviewer castigated them for not doing so then said but no one would buy them.
This is true. And GTI is a sold world wide, so VW of Germany made the decision to axe the 6 speed all around and make it easy for production . The only reason the GLI had a manual is because it is not a world car, it’s primarily only sold in North America and VW of NA has the decision and made the decision to keep the manual for the American market
ICE is the soul of a car. The powers that be are slowly pressuring politicians and corporate boards into producing electric toaster appliances with wheels. We the people did not ask for this, but we will feel the pain of this climate cults plan sometime the next 5 years or so (when the choice of your new car becomes only one choice - EV)
@superbirdclub3968 When I was buying my car i test drove a dsg golf r and a manual! Preferred the manual, definitely more engaging ripping through the gears on a back road!
On my 8th overall GTI. Started back with the Mk3, currently with the Mk8 GTI 380 Edition. Will hold out until the last year of production of the Golf R to make the switch. My wife and I have driven nothing but VW. The only non GTI VW I've ever had was a VW Fox.
Have owned/enjoyed a stack of different cars//brands over the year’s , however if you could only own one car then a Golf GTI would surely be it. (6 generations of Golf - 5 GTI spec) Owned Mk2 GTI, Mk5 GTI (total revelation) Mk6 GTI (nice), Mk7 (excellent ), Mk8 (love/ hate), 8.5 GTI in the spec you have looks great ! Wish too that it was manual, and yes here in Australia drive away will no doubt be close to $70,000!!! - cheers from Brisbane
Don’t like the iPad on the dash. Don’t like slider controls for temperature. Don’t like the lack of gas struts on the bonnet. Don’t like lack of mini glove box that used to be in 7.5.
I agree completely with your analysis. I've owned every generation of GTI over the years except for the Mk3, and I find the Mk8.5 very appealing. But the prospect of this being most likely the final generation is indeed sad. I wish they could do a stunning looking Mk9 that shared the same bodywork, but could be had as a petrol, hybrid, or full electric. But unfortunately, VW painted themselves into a corner with their dedicated electric platforms, and there is no easy way to make a flexible powertrain model. I just don't think a Golf Mk9 that is only electric is going to generate enough sales in 2028.
Excellent video! Your production quality and editing is excellent. And that is a proper good looking car! 😎 Glad to hear they’ve sorted the niggles from Mk8.0…. also, we need to make Nob Heads catch on 😂
Golf won Best Car of the Half Century by independent motor engineers, journalists, manufacturers and celebrities at the World Car Awards in September that speaks volumes for all you haters out there. I own a October 2021 VW Golf 8 GTI. It's my fifth one...I would never drive another vehicle and for your info no issues at all❤
It's an amazing car, but it highlights VW's issues, it is a product of another age, and it's appeal is guttural and primeval at a serious price. Yes as you say, VW can make great cars based on the past, but we have a future to consider and the GTI could well be the swan song of a company with it's roots in the past and lack lustre vision for the future cars. Although the next two to three weeks could hopefully prove me wrong.
Putting the price aside, it seems the unreliable infotainment system that's in these (and Skoda & SEAT/CUPRA) is the biggest headache unfortunately. I'd love a VRS but couldn't take a chance for the price they command along with potential issues. 😢
Great review & I totally agree with you about that stupid ‘mileometer’ I’ve had my 8.5 for a month now and I knew something bothered me about the dials but i couldn’t figure what. At least I know now! Yes it is expensive, mine was £44k but I think it’s worth it, especially if it holds on to its value as well as my last Golf 8 GTi did. Time will tell
I had a mk1.5 (the later 1.8 😂), mk 4 and mk 7 - they were great cars - now have a Cupra Born (it certainly has its good points, but it certainly isn't a GTi 😂). The mk 8.5 is the GTi's last hurrah 😢. The wheels look awful, what is it with VW and wheel design - couldn't they poach someone from BMW 😂 ?
Absurd price, of course.But knowing a good friend of mine is expecting Golf 8.5 diesel with R line spec and some sort of black edition trim and he paid 49 000e, this GTI is not a surprise to me.
How the likes of a golf R can go from 40-90k from the 7 to the 8.5 (one generation really) is insanity. At this stage you are better off in a base spec model 3
As someone who has been considered a nob head since before I discovered this channel (aah school days!) the disconnect between the Golf and reality is scary and quite sad…are the “safe” models being used to prop up VW while they flounder in the EV world?
Will do a comparison video/series on Irish car prices with Uk/Eu markets. Feel most people in Ireland don't realise how much we're getting ripped off by taxes.
@@DC5dottywhat was so bad about, was it the steering wheel buttons or the media screen . I’m looking hard at a mk8 GTI clubsport, drove one and loved it
@@brendandevoy8178 both .. the screen is a disaster. Harmon kardon speakers decided not to work sometimes. Popping noises through the speaker . No illumination on the slider .. haptic buttons were a pain .. other than that it’s a good car 🤣
@@DC5dottyreally appreciate that . Been driving a g30 5 series for a few years and the mk8 is my last chance to drive a hot hatch . Just out of curiosity what did you buy after the golf ?
@@brendandevoy8178 I got the wheel replaced a year ago on 8 GTI and it’s gone again , back to the dealer to see what can be done . Can’t even trade it in as no one will touch it with the faulty wheel .
I'm not a subscriber but I found and watched this entire video. It was a fun video to watch but I have to express frustration with your title being a complete clickbait title. This GTI doesn't sadden you and you explicitly clarified that in the video. And at no point during the 15mins did you say this GTI saddens you.
I’ve been driving GTIs since 1998. My mk7 is 10 years old now and still drives like day 1. I’m in the states, and I’m really on the fence… wait and buy a 8.5 probably the last gas GTI I own. Or get a new model 3 Tesla, with discounts it’s about the same money, faster, AWD, and tech that will get updated for years and years.
I dunno, I guess I'm being bias but I really think that VW got my 2024 GTI S model right. Luv my GTI in the King's Red. When I'm on the road I get the wtf is that from the non car enthusiast and smiles from the people who are. 😎
Great video. 2 words where they got it all wrong and still not corrected.....too much "touchscreens" and lack of "nobs".....see the pun....mk8 represented the time I know longer love VWs and not for want of trying to force myself to adapt. Whats even sadder is the mk8 golf is a stunning evolution on the exterior
China creates a lot of currency to subsidize EVs Given all the floods and such, it’s what should happen Sure, I adore my GTI. But I’m waiting for a small EV to be offered in the US
Besides the absurd price, VW took the fun away from the original hot hatch which is a manual transmission. Also bring back the VR6 engine, not every VW enthusiasts likes the four banger and four doors. Two doors, six on the floor and a VR6! Now that's an VW enthusiasts dream, for me anyway
Love the dsg when on boost it is great robot let off to shift. Looking to get a Supra and have a choice between manual or 8 speed I am going to get the auto :)
£40K is a lot of debt for something that will be worth £20K in less than 3 years. Options that manufacturers consider luxuries should be standard. Heat pumps, HUD, heated seats, LFP batteries etc should be standard in every car above £25K. £40K should be reserved real luxury and frivolous items like Sun roof, soft tops and huge NMC batteries.
7 was good ,7.5 was great . Currently have the 8 and really disappointed. Software glitches and now on its second steering wheel . All this and not even 30K on the clock yet . In the 3 years it’s probably been glitch free for about 6 months. Love the car but the VW quality now would bring you to tears .
@@NobbyOnCarsYes, their reputation is crap with their software issues (Volvo/Polestar know this) but that is not the fault of electricfication... I also do not believe that EVs will kill the GTI ... Emissions of pollutants will (unless they get rid of the Dino juice and get it to run on genuine "green" synthetic fuels)..
I own 7.5 R, I was hoping VW would go backwards on this cheap interior, those ridiculous touch buttons, but instead they doubled-down on the screens. The one thing for me at least, is manufacturers tend to misunderstand, that you can't force me to buy things I don't like. They can't just say, well, this is what it is now. I really wanted the 8 to be great, its great under the hood, and exterior is nice as well. But most of the time you spend inside, and you interact with controls, and you look at that economy car interrior that you’ve paid premium for. That's not good enough for the money, at least for me. If I'd want cheap and functional interior I’d buy GR Corolla or Yaris. They have better hardware as well. VW used to build great cars that people bought one after another, but i’s all going downhill lately with the splash of marketing and influencers. Those cars didn't need any convincing that the drift mode is fun, nobody cared, because there were good overall, not just one gimmic so to say.
I just can’t bear driving an EV GTi….just kill it if you have to and rebrand it. Do not rename it to ETi or something like Skoda did with the ERS? …. If EVs are the future let it be. But I will not spend funds on a fast EV is just not my cup of tea. Sorry I just don’t like electrics and their designs. Good for commercial use not for private. I like a GTi, an RS3 or a VRS. That’s of course my own opinion I’m not an influencer. Thanks.
You cant compare an R to an GTI, R is just made for straight lines and speed, gti is made for driving fun and going in corners at high speed, with 4motion in the R you can’t have fun, and the steering feel in gtis are always better than R
Hi Mark. So Volkswagen are stifling with €20 billion profit. Poor souls. The cost of new cars has gone up and up over the last years and yet the interior quality has gone down coupled with the SCREEN. Certainly in this one it does seem plonked in. And I am positive that this reduced the cost of manufacture so makes you wonder why they are so much more expensive. Could it be because of the fines they will be forced to pay for not selling their quota of electric cars and normal users have to pay it……?
VW need to make €20 profit to cover debts and acquisitions such as Rivian. Volkswagen's total debt as of June 2024 is €194.42 billion, which is the sum of all current and non-current debts. Volkswagen's total long term debt has ranged from €166.36 billion in September 2022 to €208.14 billion in June 2024.
Just a car for Wealthy GTi diehards and unlikely to attract new buyers - dated thirsty drivetrains and dull looks. VW really need to come up with something fresh in styling and tech for the mk9 if there is to be one.
What’s wrong with this fool ? An R ain’t 90k euro !
Oh really? Go look at Carzone or the VW website so d-head. There’s a used one for almost 90k, nevermind new. Who is the fool again? W⚓️
www.carzone.ie/search/3815309/advert
Golf R Black edition with a few popular extras is 89K.. imagine on the road that will be over 90K
We have a thing in Ireland called VRT (vehicle robbery tax) which is why you may be surprised at the price Vs the rest of world.
60k is not an aspirational price, it's beyond absurd.
A price of 60k makes sure, that many of the old farts, that couldn't afford one when they were young, still can't afford one today. Thanks VW, maybe you deserve, what's coming to you.
It's the price of the GTI that is the worse part.
It's starting at £35,500 on autotrader for a brand new one which I don't think is cheap but seems somewhat reasonable
@@chaz83 VRT in Ireland is the killer here on new and imported cars.
Around 57k in euro. Don't even look up a golf R. Range from over 75 and iv seen some for over 90k with extras.
@chaz83 Seems like the issue is Irish taxes. The same golf gti in the US is only £24,000 (32,000 dollars) but that's without tax
Multiply and add tax. True Irish logic
I just stumbled upon your channel whilst looking up Mk 8.5 gti and I have to say I very much enjoyed your commentary. It is quite thoughtful and very well spoken. Cheers!
I thought cars in the U.K. were expensive, but in the Republic of Ireland… oh my gosh.
A Mk 7 or 7.5 with a virtual dash would be my preference….. i drive a car with a similar dash setup as the MK and I abhor the big central display….. it’s unnecessary and a monolithic carbuncle in the centre of modern cars…. It add complexity to control and looks like it was designed by a 7yr old….
The 8.5 drives a lot better though
Greetings from Canada. I configured my own GTI with all the options I would like on Volkswagen Ireland's website and got mine to just under £65k. It is mind boggling to see that amount you guys pay for a Golf. After conversion, it is just under $99k CAD. For that amount of money, I could get a fully optioned out BMW M2 or a base M3. That is wild!!
I’m in the USA and bought my 2023 GTI 40th AE manual with the DCC, and yeah, with a 10 year dealer warranty and lifetime drivetrain warranty for $36K. Not sure what that equates to in pounds or euros, but I can tell you, it’s the most fun car I’ve ever driven. Just to be safe, I change the oil and filter every $3K miles as I plan to keep it a long time. I believe it will be a classic. And most days I drive it very civilly, but every so often, I get rowdy with it. It’s just enough power for great fun, but not enough for you to get yourself into trouble. A beautiful platform that just does everything so well. Nothing from Asia feels like it, and here the other day after a long road trip, I got 40.1 mpg (not sure what that equates to with your measurements, but it is almost as good as I got on my standard 2017 Golf I once owned). Just a joy to drive for me, an old guy! And BTW, no problem at all with the infotainment system other than the occasional connectivity problem with Apple CarPlay Bluetooth. I feel we made a wise purchase.
unreal warranty!
@@NobbyOnCars yes, I thought it quite good, too.
What dealer gave you 10 years?
@@GUITARTIME2024 Dick Hannah VW, Vancouver, WA. Plus they offer a lifetime drivetrain warranty.
Oil change evey 3k miles 😂😂
ICONIC! THE Standard bearer! The ultimate Q car . Amazing.
Take this over anything Porsche produce.
Had a MK 1 many years ago...
Stays with you forever.
The reason VW didn’t make a manual is because people don’t buy them. I read a review the other day where the reviewer castigated them for not doing so then said but no one would buy them.
I bought a manual mk7 gti and manual mk7 golf r so much more fun than the dsgs
This is true. And GTI is a sold world wide, so VW of Germany made the decision to axe the 6 speed all around and make it easy for production . The only reason the GLI had a manual is because it is not a world car, it’s primarily only sold in North America and VW of NA has the decision and made the decision to keep the manual for the American market
ICE is the soul of a car. The powers that be are slowly pressuring politicians and corporate boards into producing electric toaster appliances with wheels. We the people did not ask for this, but we will feel the pain of this climate cults plan sometime the next 5 years or so (when the choice of your new car becomes only one choice - EV)
I own a late model 6MT Jetta GLI and the DSG while quicker, was never a consideration.
@superbirdclub3968 When I was buying my car i test drove a dsg golf r and a manual! Preferred the manual, definitely more engaging ripping through the gears on a back road!
On my 8th overall GTI. Started back with the Mk3, currently with the Mk8 GTI 380 Edition. Will hold out until the last year of production of the Golf R to make the switch. My wife and I have driven nothing but VW. The only non GTI VW I've ever had was a VW Fox.
Have owned/enjoyed a stack of different cars//brands over the year’s , however if you could only own one car then a Golf GTI would surely be it. (6 generations of Golf - 5 GTI spec) Owned Mk2 GTI, Mk5 GTI (total revelation) Mk6 GTI (nice), Mk7 (excellent ), Mk8 (love/ hate), 8.5 GTI in the spec you have looks great ! Wish too that it was manual, and yes here in Australia drive away will no doubt be close to $70,000!!! - cheers from Brisbane
Just checked prices on Irish configurator, €93k for a nicely specc’d R. Utterly mental.
Best review of the new Mk 8.5 GTI on YT yet - very nice work Nobby
Glad you liked it!
Don’t like the iPad on the dash. Don’t like slider controls for temperature. Don’t like the lack of gas struts on the bonnet. Don’t like lack of mini glove box that used to be in 7.5.
I’ve had 2 GTI over the years and follow you so that defo makes me a knobhead… brilliant
I agree completely with your analysis. I've owned every generation of GTI over the years except for the Mk3, and I find the Mk8.5 very appealing. But the prospect of this being most likely the final generation is indeed sad. I wish they could do a stunning looking Mk9 that shared the same bodywork, but could be had as a petrol, hybrid, or full electric. But unfortunately, VW painted themselves into a corner with their dedicated electric platforms, and there is no easy way to make a flexible powertrain model. I just don't think a Golf Mk9 that is only electric is going to generate enough sales in 2028.
Great video Nobby, have the Black R edition on order, 3 months lead time
Excellent video! Your production quality and editing is excellent. And that is a proper good looking car! 😎 Glad to hear they’ve sorted the niggles from Mk8.0…. also, we need to make Nob Heads catch on 😂
In Malaysia, mk8 costs £ 49k (GTI) and £ 59k (Golf R)
Absolutely ridiculous pricing,
Golf won Best Car of the Half Century by independent motor engineers, journalists, manufacturers and celebrities at the World Car Awards in September that speaks volumes for all you haters out there. I own a October 2021 VW Golf 8 GTI. It's my fifth one...I would never drive another vehicle and for your info no issues at all❤
Great review,totally agree ,it drives the best out of any previous standard gti .
Nob heads 😂 👍
brilliant 🤣
Great car indeed! It has been adapted and improved on many things. For me the best looking car in this class!
It's an amazing car, but it highlights VW's issues, it is a product of another age, and it's appeal is guttural and primeval at a serious price. Yes as you say, VW can make great cars based on the past, but we have a future to consider and the GTI could well be the swan song of a company with it's roots in the past and lack lustre vision for the future cars. Although the next two to three weeks could hopefully prove me wrong.
Putting the price aside, it seems the unreliable infotainment system that's in these (and Skoda & SEAT/CUPRA) is the biggest headache unfortunately. I'd love a VRS but couldn't take a chance for the price they command along with potential issues. 😢
Had a rental cupra in Scotland a few months back, that infotainment system is horrific, I'd not buy any car that had it for that reason alone
8.5 has faster system
plus with the base price rise they sneaked in...standard car plus just an optional colour, gets you luxury car tax..thanks VW
Great review & I totally agree with you about that stupid ‘mileometer’
I’ve had my 8.5 for a month now and I knew something bothered me about the dials but i couldn’t figure what. At least I know now! Yes it is expensive, mine was £44k but I think it’s worth it, especially if it holds on to its value as well as my last Golf 8 GTi did. Time will tell
And in the meantime, you've a GTI under you! Enjoy.
its just down to cost the average car cost 30,000 pounds 5 years ago it was 15000 that's why and ev sales are down too
Nail on head - ALL new cars are flipping expensive, most people I know are driving 10+ year old cars.
Great review as always 👍
I would love one. I would love a red one with tartan upholstery. I would love a 6spd manual, but alas, very few people did in recent years.
I had a mk1.5 (the later 1.8 😂), mk 4 and mk 7 - they were great cars - now have a Cupra Born (it certainly has its good points, but it certainly isn't a GTi 😂).
The mk 8.5 is the GTi's last hurrah 😢.
The wheels look awful, what is it with VW and wheel design - couldn't they poach someone from BMW 😂 ?
Absolutely brilliant review Nobby.
Thanks!
Absurd price, of course.But knowing a good friend of mine is expecting Golf 8.5 diesel with R line spec and some sort of black edition trim and he paid 49 000e, this GTI is not a surprise to me.
How the likes of a golf R can go from 40-90k from the 7 to the 8.5 (one generation really) is insanity. At this stage you are better off in a base spec model 3
As someone who has been considered a nob head since before I discovered this channel (aah school days!) the disconnect between the Golf and reality is scary and quite sad…are the “safe” models being used to prop up VW while they flounder in the EV world?
Will do a comparison video/series on Irish car prices with Uk/Eu markets. Feel most people in Ireland don't realise how much we're getting ripped off by taxes.
I hear you but what’s the point? Nothing will change. The Irish government get fined every year for having VRT and they just pay it.
The issue for me is id struggle to be pulled away from a new manual Focus ST for £18k less with abit more power.
VW is turning into Stellantis. Surgeons, high case attorney's, and millionaires are now the GTI's preferred buyers.
i still love my 2015, 2 door mk7 gti
with software updates I've not had any issues with the 3.2 software
£40k for base gti is absurd imo that’s golf R 7.5 money. Rather just pay £30k for a fully loaded low mileage golf R 7.5. Because this is absurd imo.
Had the 8
Absolute stinker because of the issues you mentioned, too burnt by it to chance it again.
Same. I had an 8R. Wanted to like it but it lasted 2 months..
@@DC5dottywhat was so bad about, was it the steering wheel buttons or the media screen . I’m looking hard at a mk8 GTI clubsport, drove one and loved it
@@brendandevoy8178 both .. the screen is a disaster. Harmon kardon speakers decided not to work sometimes. Popping noises through the speaker . No illumination on the slider .. haptic buttons were a pain .. other than that it’s a good car 🤣
@@DC5dottyreally appreciate that . Been driving a g30 5 series for a few years and the mk8 is my last chance to drive a hot hatch . Just out of curiosity what did you buy after the golf ?
@@brendandevoy8178 I got the wheel replaced a year ago on 8 GTI and it’s gone again , back to the dealer to see what can be done . Can’t even trade it in as no one will touch it with the faulty wheel .
I'm not a subscriber but I found and watched this entire video. It was a fun video to watch but I have to express frustration with your title being a complete clickbait title. This GTI doesn't sadden you and you explicitly clarified that in the video. And at no point during the 15mins did you say this GTI saddens you.
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I’ve been driving GTIs since 1998. My mk7 is 10 years old now and still drives like day 1. I’m in the states, and I’m really on the fence… wait and buy a 8.5 probably the last gas GTI I own. Or get a new model 3 Tesla, with discounts it’s about the same money, faster, AWD, and tech that will get updated for years and years.
I think you’ll miss the whole ethos…… model 3 is a cool car though.
Don't buy tesla.
I dunno, I guess I'm being bias but I really think that VW got my 2024 GTI S model right. Luv my GTI in the King's Red. When I'm on the road I get the wtf is that from the non car enthusiast and smiles from the people who are. 😎
$68k for the base model in Nz. Good luck VW.
I remember when you could get a Golf 7 Match for around 13k. The Match is now 27k.
Congrats you scared me to the very core … maybe a mildly used Megane RS , Focus ST , I30N , S3 or 128ti would be more reliable… what do you think?💭
Great video. 2 words where they got it all wrong and still not corrected.....too much "touchscreens" and lack of "nobs".....see the pun....mk8 represented the time I know longer love VWs and not for want of trying to force myself to adapt. Whats even sadder is the mk8 golf is a stunning evolution on the exterior
The MK5 GTI had Detroit/Monza wheels. Not Montreal like you said in video. Montreal was MK 4 I believe.
You’re right! Had both, 16s for the Montreal. 18 for the Monza. I think?
@@NobbyOnCars Ah yes I see. The wheels on the test car definitely replicating the Monza, not Motreal IMO.
China creates a lot of currency to subsidize EVs
Given all the floods and such, it’s what should happen
Sure, I adore my GTI.
But I’m waiting for a small EV to be offered in the US
I never “lusted” after a Gti
That ‘GTI’ on the side looks shite. What were they thinking?
Besides the absurd price, VW took the fun away from the original hot hatch which is a manual transmission. Also bring back the VR6 engine, not every VW enthusiasts likes the four banger and four doors. Two doors, six on the floor and a VR6! Now that's an VW enthusiasts dream, for me anyway
Those pops and bangs are sound generated inside are they not? Pretty sure it’s been shown on Carwow
Golf gti died after 7.5. I will say the oryx white paint though is beautiful.
Anyone else's OCD going nuts over the 'T' in the GTI logo on the hatch not centering under the 'W' in the VW badge?
Just you..... ;)
The only better handling hatch is a Golf R 😁
He said Golf R is touching 90000 euro now? That's insane. Should be illegal price gouging. I can get a M3 for less
Before covid u could get a GTI for 38000 so the only excuse is they are making up for losses on the electric side of business.
Good to see your review on 8.5 gti ❤ can I introduce your video clip with Korean subtitles for golf lovers here on mu channel?
@@windingroads_Louis afraid not, sorry.
@@NobbyOnCarsno problem. Thanks ❤
the pop＆ban is not noticable
Love the dsg when on boost it is great robot let off to shift. Looking to get a Supra and have a choice between manual or 8 speed I am going to get the auto :)
I'll stick with my Mk7.
What the hell has happened.
Hot hatches used to be a taste of performance and fun for the everyday working man, not at these prices anymore 😢
560 Vandervort Mews
40k ceiling is too low now it should have gone up with inflation
£40K is a lot of debt for something that will be worth £20K in less than 3 years. Options that manufacturers consider luxuries should be standard. Heat pumps, HUD, heated seats, LFP batteries etc should be standard in every car above £25K. £40K should be reserved real luxury and frivolous items like Sun roof, soft tops and huge NMC batteries.
No stick shift, no deal. 👎
7 was good ,7.5 was great . Currently have the 8 and really disappointed. Software glitches and now on its second steering wheel . All this and not even 30K on the clock yet . In the 3 years it’s probably been glitch free for about 6 months. Love the car but the VW quality now would bring you to tears .
Mk7.5 manual is the best
Preferred the 7 myself, the value in that at 40k or so was 👌🏻
Im officially a nobb-head 😂
It works on so many levels.
I'm a Nob head too, and some of his trolls are already Knob heads 😂
McGlynn Expressway
Software has nothing to do with electrification a little overplayed to blame everything on electric vehicles
So you think VW have not damaged their ID rep with software? Ok.
@@NobbyOnCars I've a ID Buzz I don't see what the issue is, are the ice vehicles using diff software
@@NobbyOnCarsYes, their reputation is crap with their software issues (Volvo/Polestar know this) but that is not the fault of electricfication... I also do not believe that EVs will kill the GTI ... Emissions of pollutants will (unless they get rid of the Dino juice and get it to run on genuine "green" synthetic fuels)..
Nobby Nobbs?
I own 7.5 R, I was hoping VW would go backwards on this cheap interior, those ridiculous touch buttons, but instead they doubled-down on the screens.
The one thing for me at least, is manufacturers tend to misunderstand, that you can't force me to buy things I don't like. They can't just say, well, this is what it is now.
I really wanted the 8 to be great, its great under the hood, and exterior is nice as well. But most of the time you spend inside, and you interact with controls, and you look at that economy car interrior that you’ve paid premium for. That's not good enough for the money, at least for me.
If I'd want cheap and functional interior I’d buy GR Corolla or Yaris. They have better hardware as well.
VW used to build great cars that people bought one after another, but i’s all going downhill lately with the splash of marketing and influencers.
Those cars didn't need any convincing that the drift mode is fun, nobody cared, because there were good overall, not just one gimmic so to say.
Haptics teplaced
Nobby Manual 6 speed 100% no comprise drivers car
Bye bye GTI.....It's sell by date is up and the party is well over.....
35k in uk
The vw gti is 1 million in south Africa😭
Nice car too expensive!!
I just can’t bear driving an EV GTi….just kill it if you have to and rebrand it. Do not rename it to ETi or something like Skoda did with the ERS? …. If EVs are the future let it be. But I will not spend funds on a fast EV is just not my cup of tea. Sorry I just don’t like electrics and their designs. Good for commercial use not for private. I like a GTi, an RS3 or a VRS. That’s of course my own opinion I’m not an influencer. Thanks.
Keep your Grand Theft Item vw
very cheap get me two...
Don’t sit on it ffs😮
Don’t buy electric!
I can’t believe they’re at 8.5 when I gave up at on the Golf at Mk4.
Should've waited for the V !
🙏🏻🙏🏻
No one wants electric shite !
38k $$$ waste of usd dollar
Why would anyone buy a GTI when you could have a Golf R for a fee sheckles more? I drive a 7.5 Golf R and wouldn't trade it in for an 8.5 GTI
You cant compare an R to an GTI, R is just made for straight lines and speed, gti is made for driving fun and going in corners at high speed, with 4motion in the R you can’t have fun, and the steering feel in gtis are always better than R
I really hope VW goes completely bankrupt, with their stupid prices. VW, just close your factories please....
@@billx4266 that’s a pretty pathetic thing to say considering they employee thousands and thousands of normal people who just want to do their job
Hi Mark. So Volkswagen are stifling with €20 billion profit. Poor souls. The cost of new cars has gone up and up over the last years and yet the interior quality has gone down coupled with the SCREEN. Certainly in this one it does seem plonked in. And I am positive that this reduced the cost of manufacture so makes you wonder why they are so much more expensive. Could it be because of the fines they will be forced to pay for not selling their quota of electric cars and normal users have to pay it……?
We'll never truly know I guess. The materials in the MKV GTI were not as good as the MKIV either so I guess it's not a new thing.
VW need to make €20 profit to cover debts and acquisitions such as Rivian. Volkswagen's total debt as of June 2024 is €194.42 billion, which is the sum of all current and non-current debts. Volkswagen's total long term debt has ranged from €166.36 billion in September 2022 to €208.14 billion in June 2024.
Just a car for Wealthy GTi diehards and unlikely to attract new buyers - dated thirsty drivetrains and dull looks. VW really need to come up with something fresh in styling and tech for the mk9 if there is to be one.
How much is a gti now ? 200k
Electric won't last petrol.will.run for another many years
It's all Biden doin here he made this happen