That doesnt make it okay though, you shouldnt have to seek alternatives to people spying on you, you should be able to go about your life without being spied on.
Yeah, because government and companies would _never_ make your gadgets quietly talk to each other independent of your "settings." The same way you _don't_ find out today that your phone is never truly "off" and absolutely _cannot_ be commandeered at any moment by those with the right tools... for the children, of course. Think of the children.
@@paulosullivan3472 It does not make it OK. But people can stop it from happening. Don't give me this BULLSHIT that you will be inconvenienced. It is your choice. Be inconvenienced or continue to let it go on. Or get a Bluetooth headset.
Infotainment systems are dangerous in more ways than one ! I remember when it was just a radio and then later on an optional tape player ! Everyone talks about the dangers of texting and driving and now your car is hooked into the internet ! 1984 anyone.
I'm not 100% sure but i remember a case where google was in trouble because doctors used nest to take patient notes and google used that data for advertisement and another where facebook was in trouble because a tracker used on a hospitals website was gathering appointment data patients had set up on the hospital's website. So it likely is.
@@mattstorm360 Google on Friday defeated a lawsuit brought on behalf of 1.6 million people over medical records provided to the U.S. tech giant by a British hospital trust.
Yes, but the violation would be on the part of the physician, as HIPPA only applies to the medical industry(i.e. no one is stopping a patient from releasing their own medical data.)
I would think that it could apply to at least defense attorneys as well. Nothing like someone else getting access to your game plans. Although Jim Harbaugh might be interested.
Ford has actually said it out loud, that the data is more valuable to them than the car is. In Wisconsin we worked on this for a while trying to get a law passed that makes the data in the car our property. GM came in to the hearings and caused as much confusion as they could and that was pretty much the end. Recently we have had state reps say we should try again realizing how bad the companies lied to them.
Megacorps do this with everything. The energy companies in my state introduce laws and have representatives show up to make sure their interests are known, and without shock those laws pass easily. Hell, they introduced a bill to get rid of styrofoam food containers and a large grocery store chain came in to fight it and won. Something as silly as grocery food packing has megacorps altering the law to their benefit and not the benefit of the people.
Its sad that the quality of life for our unborn great great grandchildren (with regards to micro plastics and other forever chems) is decided by mega corps and their courts that simply don't care. @@jetjazz05
@@jetjazz05 The corporations write the laws and hand them already written to whoever they paid off to put forth as bills. This is has been known for decades. Former Sen. Bill Frist from TN? Yeah, he got immunity from lawsuits for vaccine manufacturers. It came out through an investigation that his office didn't write the bill; the pharmaceutical companies had their lawyers write the bill, their lobbyist's hand it to Frist's office, and he just got it passed.
When I was in automotive school, the instructors were talking about how the government was trying to get car companies to move to OBDIII. The system would give the car the ability to self test AND REPORT the emissions results to the respective agency. Then the car would give you so many start cycles to get it repaired before it locks out the starter solenoid circuit so you can't use it until it's repaired. This was in 2018 so this doesn't surprise me at all.
Great vid. Years back I was assisting a union to salt a company I was working for. We were in the process of voting to go union. Two local union bosses told me that this capability existed and that we should leave our work phones in our vehicles and walk about 50’ away before discussing organization efforts. They said not all companies used that tech but it was definitely out there.
😮 The kill switch bill passed. 19 Republican voted for it. All automobiles must have a killswitch built into their vehicles by 2026. It was in the must pass bills that had multiple crap bills put into it and some were put in at the last minute. That's why Congress has to start passing 1 bill at a time with a floor vote.
The implications are HUGE! And constitutional considerations are a major issue here. For LEO agencies to have access to these things without a court order and warrants is scary!
I was a product manager at general motors in detroit at the renaissance center until twenty nineteen. While I cannot confirm nefarious acts, I did get to watch corporate decision making. Every avenue where privacy had a foothold was trounced when it was legal. It's a dirty game we're playing. Good thing some of us snuck in our own weapons.
You are absolutely right, I have talked about things with my wife, didn't do any internet searches on these topics, and low and behold, the ad's about our discussion start to appear. We thought we were being paranoid also until we found out it happens to friends and family also.
Black pill somewhere else. There are good judges out there, but yes there are a lot of bad ones too. It's not the end of the world, it just takes awareness, such as Steve is doing, to get the public to push back. Public opinion is very important in influential. We've gotten this way because people were asleep for too long.
Agreed. There is no remedy that does not involve things which gave this country our freedoms in the first place. You cannot change a system that does not allow the changes. There is too much perverse corruption and too much power against the people to do anything.
That's what i been saying to my friends that there is Nothing Wrong with the old vehicle. The material, The style and The simplesity..just you and your car...im miss my flip phone...Call, Talk and Flip up and Flip Down... wishing you all a wonderful thanksgiving ❤
The issue is your assuming it's "your data" when it's not. You by agreeing to the terms and conditions of all the things you use, give away that data. Your own ignorance & demand for convenience is doing this, not their malace, they are generally quite open about what they are doing if you know were to look.
Not only is your phone listening to you--your television, Siri, Alexa, and other systems are also listening to you. I think it's absolutely a shame that the courts take the position they take regarding the ability of these companies to collect our private information. Where will it stop?
I asked Alexa is she was a spy and she said no. That how a spy would answer that question. I asked if she was always on listening and she said yes. I do not have Alexa at my place but I know people that have that box in 3 or 4 rooms of their house.
Naomi Brockwell did a great video on this exact topic recently but also more of the tech in the car that makes it possible. You should collab with her! Would love to see the law and tech folks attack this together!
I was a volunteer EMT 15 yrs ago in Washington state, and was warned in training not to use my cell phone to relay/record any patient info. Geesh--instead of getting better, it's gotten worse. This is important info for all HIPAA bound practitioners. Thanks Steve.
I work in a blood bank ( overnight) and occasionally have to call a doctor/resident or my medical director for a problem patient. Sometimes they are driving. I give a lot of personal info over the phone. This is scary.
We can’t expect courts to do what legislators are supposed to be doing. This is precisely the kind of thing we need to write to our representatives about. That being said, invasion of privacy should be considered in-itself injurious, you shouldn’t have to prove some secondary harm
Yeah did I hear that right? "Violation of the law was not sufficient if there is no injury" So you can break the law until someone figures out they've been stalked and killed because the law was broken? WTAF?
Didn't the politicians recently support installing equipment in every car sold in the US the ability to listen to tour speach while driving, monitor your driving performance and sniff the air inside your car so that they can turn your car off if they detect any deficiency in you? That sounds much more invasive than just gathering my phone data.
Generally, when I walk out of house, my phone is in flight mode. I have it for emergency purposes only. Nothing is more disrespectful, IMO, then someone with a passenger/friend in a vehicle, chatting away, leaving them out of the conversation. If something is 'personal', then it should be cut short and call deferred to another time. That said, phone etiquette is sorely missing in this era.
It should be noted that when you first connect to a car's bluetooth your phone will ask you to grant permission for access to contacts and SMS. I know it's specifically meant for enabling the ability to hands-free-ask the car to "call mom" or "send dave johnson a text saying I want my dang money" ..I still always deny the permissions because I don't use the voice features.
It's that time of year again. I grab my wife's phone and read off my Christmas wish list about 10 times. She get flooded with ads, and I get my favorite items for Christmas. :)
That's crazy! I have a Chevy pickup and I use the hands-free through the trucks system all the time. It works great, in fact better than anything else I've seen! When I talk to my brother once a month long distance I sit in my truck because the sound is so good!! I also bought my truck when it was 8 months old and had 3500 miles on it. I'm reasonably sure I didn't sign anything agreeing to having anything on my phone accessed, or recorded!! This is the first I heard of it! Grrr!! 8( --gary
The scariest part about this is, they can can collect all this information and then use it against you. Basically violating your constitutional right, treating everybody like a criminal and saying oh no, it’s just for gathering data… It’s disgusting
People are buying into new technology and don't understand the ramifications, get a degoogled phone, it's a start when Google don't know, then get off all major social media sites, people survived without many of these before
Look up Tammy AI for a real scare. I saw a nutrition talk 20 minutes lots of complicated content. Someone had summarized the whole thing. really well written, key info. click on the person, its AI. Meaning all ur conversations the interested person runs the AI and asks tell me all the times he talked about X in a negative way. and bang a full history with time stamps of all the times ur offensive or something. Hate to be going through a divorce and jilted exz lawyer has access to this data
There’s nothing scary about it unless you’re a coward or have something to hide. They are not going to use that information against you. What are ridiculous idea.
That's really all that needs to be said, except that I've come to believe that they're not just allowing it, but actually clandestinely demanding, forcing, and coercing companies to intrude on privacy and gather info. In my more naive days, I was flabbergasted that the government would 'allow' apps to have full access to everything on a person's phone.
@@raycatlin3554 Time, effort, and resources. Same way they've taken control of our legislature. Lobbyists outnumber Congress Critters 100 to 1. "We have the best government that money can buy."
Steve, I am so glad you shared this warning. I live in Washington State. September 2022 I bought a 2018 Tundra. I bought it for "when" I need it. I've only put 15 miles on it, in 15 months. to get where I moved. I do keep it running and moved on the block. Sirius XM stopped badgering me to sign up for their info controls. They don't play my music. I only play my CDs in my Car and I will in my Truck when it's time. I use my Phone for Calls, News, Weather and occasional GPS without Vehicle Speakers. I'm not on Social Chat, nor Hooked for intruders beyond what's within my Tires and other implants in my vehicles.. My Hyundai Santa Fe, new in 2005 is still within 78,000 miles, so I think I can avoid "some" Spooks intruding in my vehicles for awhile. Thanks DT 12/7/2023
On-Star is watching us in vehicles and listening to our conversations. In some vehicles even though we do not have Onstar activated in our vehicles! It’s built into the vehicle! Chevrolet’s is one vehicle!!!
Once my wife and I were watching tv an she happened to say that it was time to replace our old luggage. This was the one and only time it was ever mentioned. An hour later I fired up my computer, an low and behold, up popped an add for luggage. Apparently my phone had heard the conversation and transmitted it to my computer. That was certainly an eye opening experience.
Just wait until a government employee with sensitive information plugs his phone into his car and that's going to come back in front of the courts rather quickly. I think that this is one of those cases where the government really ought to step in for their own sake.
That is kind of happening now with mike johnson and his son using Covert Eyes to monitors each other’s online “activities”. He has put spyware on his computer.
Either vehicles owned by politicians will be given access to special menus as part of a common firmware to disable privacy-invasive features or vehicles purchased by politicians will be given special firmware and a separate repository which allows retained disablement of privacy-invasive features between system updates. Kinda like how Elon Musk's Teslas have special features compared to even the most expensive trim models and feature suites.
This is why I buy old cars, fix them up and use them as my daily driver. I just fixed up a 99 Town car, so easy and cheap to fix anything that breaks on it. The big plus is the less technology involved, and just more moving parts the better. I will stick with my old cars.
They didn't say that. They might, but they didn't say that. It is a narrow ruling, plaintiffs failed to show injury, that is on the plaintiff's lawyers, big oversight. Appeals court do not create new facts for a case, they judge on what already exists.
@@jeffreysmith236 They showed that a third party has their documents. Just because a judge decides that isnt an injury doesnt show that their was no injury, it just shows the judge is a tyrant that hates privacy.
@@calebfielding6352judges can’t make laws though? Blame the law makers for being slow, and then blame them again for being slow to remove bad law also. They just suck in general.
Yes, at 1sr my mother would give me that look when I told her about talking in front of tv's, computers, etc. 2 yrs later, she doesn't talk important things anywhere near any devices. Which is hard sometimes. Got family & friends who says who cares their going to get info 1 way or another. Then suddenly a couple cares, b/c they had private matters come up, 1 of them said they've been bombarded with medical supply ads or lawyer ads etc. Hang on we'll be China like someday.
As mentioned below in relation to car rentals, there have been so many times I have rented a vehicle and found previous drivers/occupant info still on those systems. Names, phone numbers, addresses, what-nots... I make sure to wipe that info out for each rental I use. Keep this in mind....as soon as you release a rental back to the rental agency, you lose control of whatever data is downloaded to that vehicle. Maintain control of your information!
I bought a car recently and all the previous destinations were still stored... including the previous owners home and all contact info... scary stuff...
That is so surprising too! I would have thought they cleared that stuff out but seems not. The last used vehicle we bought a few years ago still had previous owner info in the system. I wiped that out.@@richardschaeffer3204
In 2019, when I went to pick up my new semi, my company rented me a car and I took the 2019 Nissan Altima and after about 5 hours. The car noticed my reaction time slowing and suggested I pull off and take a 20 minute break from driving. Almost every vehicle made after 2015 is: tracking your eyes, recording audio and inside and video outside of the car (sometimes front and rear cams), they're tracking which features you use and whether you use them at dangerous times, tracking your gps location, acceleration and brake monitoring, etc. It's only good if you're accused of causing an accident, but the cameras and/or sensors show that you weren't. Other than that, it's ALL bad!
It really depends on if it's doing that locally and saving the data or going out to a data farm to be saved and sold in perpetuity. Like all the home security systems that just so happen to have terrible security and everyone can download the video and audio. You wouldn't mind recording yourself all that much if you knew it wasn't leaving the location and would be personal. It's a totally different discussion if anyone can look at it.
@ferinzz It's usually only saved for about an hour before it's overwritten. Most home security NVR's can only store video from 4-6 1080p cameras for about a week. 4 terabyte can store 6 cameras for about 2 weeks, as long as there's no audio.
This should be a violation for doctors AND lawyers and possibly other professionals. If someone is talking about something private / personal to their particular case someone who finds this out could use this against them. A hacker can make a killing on information like this. 🤬
Google is tracking your whereabouts at all time and keeps a record of them. We were getting coupons sent to our cellphone whenever we were near certain businesses. They even track what shelf you're near when you're in certain stores.
i'm genuinely surprised this kind of intrusion to privacy doesnt fall under wiretapping/eavesdropping laws and wouldnt it fall under espionage acts if they collect any classified info/data from government workers/contractors?
Yeah, you can't even safely record audio in a security system in some areas because of these laws, but your car can collect video and audio without your consent. And more! Did you know that Nissan's privacy policy specifically says that they can collect and share your sexual activity and collect your DNA? Since Nissan vehicles have interior cameras that means they are creating sex tapes of all their customers and of course sifting through text messages to find pictures and naughty conversations to add to their profile. And they can also collect DNA samples when you have your car maintained. The fact that minors do this means that they are without question in possession of illegally created and retained child pornography. Note that in some states it is legal for children to engage in such relations, but it still is not legal for even them to record themselves before they are both age 18. And they aren't even the worst offender. Subaru's privacy policy says that just by being a passenger in a vehicle you consent to your data being collected. Even though a company has to get specific informed consent before collecting data about children they do so anyway.
@@Elliandr welp, if nothing else i hope that the mention of child pornography will get my state's AG to do something about it. I just sent an email to their office.
I'm dying to see what happens when some judge or politician finds that all their call logs and text messages pop up someplace on the internet for all to see. It's only a matter of time before these car companies computers themselves get hacked and all this information gets leaked out onto the web for all to see
YESSSS can't wait for the Victim of their own creation to come into play. Nothing would be more fitting, especially if its a judge that allowed this to continue
*Steve, This is a case for the Institute For Justice. See if they'll take it up.* *The state can argue all they want, it is a clear violation of the Privacy Act. This has nothing to do with injury stuff? Who brought that up??.*
@@winstonwolf6791 *That's where lawyers make mistakes, they sue or argue the wrong point of view, which seems to be the case here.* *For example: as you know thousands of law firms have tried to sue cigarette companies for one health reason after another and they all lost, then this one Hispanic lawyer from his own small law firm sued under a different argument and he beat the biggest cigarette company on earth so easily that all the rest just settle out of court with him.*
@@gaiustacitus4242 *Each state is different, for example: California doesn't allow companies to take your information without your explicit consent. That why you will see some, if you use this you are consenting to,, etc... expect in California, etc..CA doesn't allow companies to pull that BS with their citizens. And this falls under the CA Citizen Privacy Protesting Act.*
For private Corporations yes, that’s why the state(via the Security police, military or health services) take the info and then give the info to them for “data processing”. The time for sipping tea with your pinky in the air has passed and you cannot think national laws will protect you(if you’re normally gifted) and must start to be more proactive. Especially in a state like Norway where the state has as much power as the old Soviet union.
Sure ya do buddy. Make an "anonymous" Tweet claiming the holocaust never happened or criticizing your country's immigration policies and then tell me how private you are.
So true. I was talking to my uncle and started seeing news feeds and ads regarding what I was talking about on my phone. Your TV listens to you too. My Tv does the same thing. As soon as I talk about something, a commercial comes on for it.
To take this a step further. I was at a store and stopped in an aisle to look at something. I didn't physically touch the item or pick it up, I just looked at it while it was on the shelf. It was not an item I had looked at on the internet or discussed with anyone. It was just something that caught my attention as I was walking down the aisle. For the next few days all ads seen were related to the item, or items like it.
Your phone has very accurate gps location. The store has a digital map of their shelves and the items on them. The AI learning systems are very good, and knows you stopped to look at something, then cross referenced the stores map. Or your mind is being read and influenced, which is also possible.
Yesterday, I read the operating manual for a 76 year old sewing machine, specifically, the introductory pages about how to thread the machine and how to set up the machine for darning. I never mentioned it or spoke about it or looked it up online. About 20 minutes or so later I opened UA-cam on my cell phone. The second video in line was one precisely about what I had just read in the manual.
Yup. I might hear an ad on TV in the background then I get ads or recommendations on Amazon for that lol, or me and a friend would be standing outside talking about a TV show, then he would be getting ads on his phone about that TV show.
I hope you are starting to see. 😂prophecy **Jeremiah 16:19** “O LORD, my strength, and my fortress, and my refuge in the day of affliction, the Gentiles shall come unto thee from the ends of the earth, and shall say, Surely our fathers have inherited lies, vanity, and things wherein there is no profit.”
Wait, let's bring it to the most extreme logical conclusion. If they are openly saving they are saving them couldn't you find a politician, lawyer or judge with a car or their spouse or children's cars and get a court order or request and get all the messages? Are law enforcement using them to bypass phone carriers? Seems like something is there just someone would need to dig.
@@Somewhere-In-AZ when politicians are adversely affected by laws, instead of changing the law to something more reasonable, they are more likely to change nothing and instead just exempt themselves from that law because they see themselves as above the law.
You guys still believe in voting and judges???😂😂😂 the only JUDGES there are are YAHWEH’s Judges. Those who are gonna judge the earth for all of this wickedness.
Corporations are the ultimate loophole around the constitutional restraints that bound government because somewhere in the fine print we contracted with them
US courts at the federal level are largely packed with conservative judges. This is the risk every country faces: conservative judges tend to favor corporate and state power at the expense of individual liberty.
Why now and not when the drug war kicked up in the 90s and certain highschool kids were thrown up against walls and getting cavity searches... Looks like this guy's in new york? Did he make videos about stop and frisk? The middle class should've addressed this happening to the lower class.
When is the last time you seen citizens ban together over anything? Oh you must be talking about the ones that protest their lives matter more than anyone else, or the ones that burn down cities and hate cops. The rest of the citizens hunker down in their home afraid to go out in fear of being attacked or worse. The rest are too busy watching football on television or Susie's dance lessons. As far as contacting their lawmakers that are getting money and payoffs, Good luck with that.
I don't think you understand that ALL THE COURTS ALONG WITH THE POLITICIANS ARE ALL UNDER THE SAME UMBRELLA AS WELL AS YOUR POLICE FORCE 😜... Land of the free... Law...... Definition Thee opinion of a puppet that is forced upon us with the barrel of a rifle.... Freedom
So true. Just recently I bought a digital audio recorder to help me with my book writing, &, in that it is "MADE IN CHINA" (& believe you me, I have been very deliberate since 2020 to avoid products marked "MADE IN CHINA" as much as I can), I had to really wonder, & yet wonder, if the CCP is not installing devices into even electronics such as audio recorders that are made in China so as to gather & transmit to themselves information gotten by such stealth. The world is at a very crazy point of widespread tyranny, &, behold, Satan is definitely behind it, even as the Scriptures prophesied.
this is something to be aware of in rental cars. I recently got a rental car and the infotainmet system still displayed information on several prior users who had synched their phones to the car. Included was phone name (eg "Bob's phone") with a phone number and their call logs. So I could go into "Bob's Phone" and see his phone book, his call history, etc.
Time to bring back cds or burner phones with downloaded music. This is out of control, but it’s been like that since at least 2015. I remember getting an almost brand new rental that had exactly what you’re taking about.
You delete your phone before you turn in the rental car. I do this all the time. I also delete everyone elses crap before I hook mine up. Always delete your phone from infotainment system before turning car in.
i used to work for a large company a few thousand employees that held an annual picnic. it was a daylong event with bbq, entertainment, and games like a small fair. there was a liability form that had to be signed to attend. it was 3 pages long. i read it and questioned why there was a paragraph in the middle that allowed the company to use my likeness in advertising and promotional material. psychopaths gotta psychopath.
"I believe that if the people of this nation fully understood what Congress has done to them over the last 49 years, they would move on Washington; they would not wait for an election....It adds up to a preconceived plan to destroy the economic and social independence of the United States!" --George W. Malone, U.S. Senator (Nevada), speaking before Congress in1957.
I recently retired after 40 years in the IT industry. During that time I did not participate in any social media nor did I allow any of my devices to “auto connect” to anything. Why? Because of exactly what Steve describes in this video. You have no idea how much of your personal information is grabbed without you knowing about it. And participating in social media and allowing your devices to “auto connect” just makes it that much easier.
I remember reading a story about the downfall of Sears. The story was how the new CEO felt that the value of the company was in their information about their customers. And was so invested in that they neglected the company operations to the point of bankruptcy.
My recollection was that they started failing when the new CEO redesigned their stores into mazes. Literally put up floor to ceiling false walls everywhere so you couldn’t navigate to exits or to the department you wanted without wandering all over the store. I heard stories of elderly people getting so lost and confused they started crying in the store. Young or old, people were so frustrated that they started avoiding going into the store at all.
The issue is, if you buy the car used and this happens to you, you have not even, implicitly, given permission for them to do this. This needs to be taken to the supreme court honestly, but it's a gross invasion of privacy.
I don’t think I have to worry about my 1967 El Camino spying on me at all! Besides we’ve been friends for 56 years and I don’t think it’s going to tell on me anyway. However, we’re both outlaws!
You know what will stop this? People start refusing to buy any car that has that technology. When nobody is buying those cars for that reason, things will change real fast.
Would love to. But when I last posted it on the comments it got buried under all the new comments. Edit: reposted. It should be at the top of the newest comments
Who would this _"Someone"_ be who will _"Change the privacy laws?"_ ...It certainly isn't anyone in government. That would go against their interest in cultivating power over people. The government isn't interested in people's rights... only the illusion thereof, enough to placate the population and keep them from rising up.
In 10 years, your car will tell cops that you aren't wearing your seat belt so they can come right to you and give you a ticket. In 20 years, your car will come with a small printer that just gives you the ticket immediately like in The 5th Element.
We've come a long way since cops weren't allowed to pull you over JUST for no seat belt; they had to have a "legitimate" reason. Speeding, tail light out, not enough screws holding the license plate ...
I guarantee you nine times out of ten, it'll be a false positive; the sensors detected a bag of groceries on a passenger seat or something. I'll give it about a 60% chance that the courts won't care upon appeal, depending on location.
to the HIPPA law question (hippa is all about patient confidentiality) unfortunately as someone who has used telemedicine they will have forms for you to sign making sure that you're not driving as far as i'm aware... at first i thought it was so you weren't distracted during your appointment but now i'm thinking it was because of this 😕
6 or so yrs back On U-tube I read all electric Appliances have chips in to listen to U- even that little vacuum that rides around your floor- ALL electric appliance frim certain date( yr) have chips in no privacy any more
Oddly, without your car being involved, your phone already does all of that anyway. It also tracks where you take it 24/7/365. If you use Facebook or Google on your phone, it also listens to you and tailors your advertisements and news items to what it hears you say.
I was talking to a couple friends just two days ago about a new motorcycle helmets and then suddenly my phone vibrates in my pocket and said 60% off all the helmets from the RevZilla is that a coincidence!!! I would say not??
Actually, it is quite funny to be up in arms about one's car's infotainment center doing this. When, like you said, their phones, among other devices, are already doing this.
Also, you do have the option on Android to not allow phone or contact access to any devices. There are ways around all of this, just learn the technology and use it as if it were a firearm. Don't touch it if you aren't aware of the precautions and consequences
This is why I never sync my phone to anything. Not my car, not my computer, not even to my iTunes. Everything is either aux plug or blue tooth. If we start to adopt the early 200s mindset of having tech but it not having an input in every second of every day, then we're good. But shame on these companies for literally stealing our data and shame on the courts for not outlawing these predatory practices.
This is always good to know. My one and only car, though, is so old that the latest technology in it is a cassette tape player. Lately I've been glad about that.
Steve... thank you for providing this information. The part about just "call logs" has always been in the public domain. I can obtain call logs from the phone company to show your bills, which have a complete list of what number you called and when. I don't agree with that being available, but there is case law allowing it now and it would take some concerted effort to restrict that to only be obtainable via a subpoena or other legal instrument that would come from a judge. However! To record ANYTHING privately discussed or mentioned and gained without consent is already a violation of our Constitutional rights. There is something fishy about how this was danced around by the courts. It should be that those on the bench should hold to their sworn duties and if it doesn't apply to ONE law but indeed DOES circumvent others - then they are legally REQUIRED to being suit against whomever is breaking that law on behalf of the PEOPLE. THAT is what is NOT being done - we are awash in bought-and-paid-for corrupt judiciary, law enforcement and government corruption. Republican, Democrat and Independent alike are ALL being subjected to a subjective application of our Rule of Law. From the President of the United States on down to the last attorney who passed the bar.... there are VERY few left who are not corrupt. Welcome to the new Soviet Union.
Have a client text you while you're in your vehicle and sue for breach of lawyer-client confidentiality. Especially if they can/do turn that over to the police.
Likely wouldn't work. Ford would argue the lawyer was at fault as they were the one that connected their phone and thus it was the lawyer that chose to send their data to Ford. Now maybe you could argue that it wasn't obvious enough in the terms that you agreed to, but you're not starting your argument from a position of strength, and that argument only works if you didn't know about this issue beforehand.
I already knew that too. Trust me, I don't think there's anything that I haven't thought about or seen by far as of yet. All I can say is keep it coming.
If you need to use the USB connection to charge your phone in a car, including a rental car, use a "data condom" (a data blocking device) - a small, usually red colored device to plug your USB into. It will allow you to charge your phone without the data connection happening.
You can get a stand alone charger that plugs into the 12 volt receptacle, the side effect is that your phone charges faster compared to plugging into the built-in USB ports.
Or just get a cheap cable. Most of those only have 2 wires for +/- power, not data. I used to have all data cables and hated trying to charge my phone from my 'puter and having it connect as a storage device, and had to hunt around for power-only cables. Now it's just the opposite, everybody and his grandmother gives out power-only cables and now I gotta treat like gold the 1-2 cables that have all wires (ie, including data) connected for when I need them.
Just use a USB cable that is charging only. They usually have a sticker stating as such, as there is no data pin. No silly "condom" required if the cable never had data wires to begin with.
Some new cars won't charge the phone if there's a "data condom" on it or if you use a "power only" cable, and fast charging definitely doesn't work. This could also be a function of the newest phone OSes which really want permission to connect to everything they possibly can. Best to use the 12-volt receptacle with your own charger plugged into it, like someone already said.
@@marvelljones72 For sure you will lose fast charge as data wires are required for either detecting resistors or two-way handshake for USB-PD etc.........but wow not even providing 500mA? So far I haven't run into that yet even on rentals.
It drives me crazy when I complain about this and my friends always say, "you're already carrying a smartphone around, what's the difference if your car does it too?" And while I get the logic, I just can't help but feel that the fewer ways I allow random people to invade my privacy, the better off I am.
That's exactly how I feel too. Just because I already have to deal with something invading my privacy doesn't mean I need to open more door ways to more access to my information. I'm trying to express another analogy that would be like what your friends said that doesn't make any point. Such as it be like saying what's the point of eating healthy or driving with a seat belt on or other things cause your just gonna die in the end anyway. Like ya ok but that doesn't mean one has to cut their life short of suffer through it till death. Doing things to prevent an early death do matter. Your friends argument has no leg to stand on. They only demonstrate complacency but that may bite them in the ass later on if an issue arises related to them being spied on.
Considering people are on their phones constantly and blindly clicking accept on user agreements on every app, the least of my worries is my car doing the same thing.
Steve, I have a security camera system on my camper and it has GPS. With an app on my phone I can view any or all of the 8 camera's real time, I can track and playback the route the camper has traveled, and I can see where it is at any given point. The server is in China 🙀
I've always been partial to any year vehicles (some much better than others) pre-1980's. This makes me even more certain. And absolutely the phones are monitoring you. I'm a minimal phone user and I've mentioned a few very obscure subjects and then started seeing an advertisement for that I had never seen before.
Steve, they area transmitting data. A new audio system I had installed in my car, stopped functioning. As it turns out, the installers used a 'cheat' device around the hand break as some of the wiring is suppose to be tied into it. The manufacturer of the unit sent a "kill" signal to the device making it useless until the defeat device was removed.
Every time I’m on the phone and I mention something the ads do pop-up from Walmart Amazon furniture store. Whatever I’m talking about. It does pop up in ads on my phone.
This came up in the Suzanne Morphew murder case in Colorado. Police suspected her husband of murdering her and disposing of the body because he had put his phone in airplane mode and was seen on cameras driving around to dumpsters throwing away something. Police used his pickup's GPS data to track his movements through software developed by the Berla corporation to pull those travel logs since the phone's travel path was untraceable because of the airplane mode. (Side Note: he was later tried and found not guilty based on lack of solid evidence, AND her body was then later discovered in an area of Colorado his pickup had never been to but is notorious as a serial murder dumping ground. On top of that an unknown male's DNA who police know as a serial murderer of an as yet unidentified person was found in her vehicle and other locations with nobody knowing how it got there). P.S. there are apps that will delete your phone's data from your vehicle's computer.
That's already a thing commonly seen in loans and possible to do by company's like Tesla. A kill switch isn't a problem, as long as you control your property. The problem is Americans have gotten even lazier then I thought possible and we don't care about privacy or ownership anymore.
The kill switch bill passed and is scheduled to start in 2026. It was buried in another bill. One of the many reasons we need to get back to single item bills. Pretty sure the majority of voters don't want to give control of their vehicle to an outside entity.
You think they cant already do that? They control the computer. The computer runs the engine. Thats not even the scary part. Have you heard of "drive by wire"? Most modern cars don't have a physical connection between the steering wheel and pedals. It's all electronic, controlled by the same computer.
I wonder if this works both ways? I was once testing my phone for "custom advertising" based on spying. What surprised me though, was that I tried powering the phone off (not just the screen, I mean fully powered down). And it still worked... but I was testing it in a car, with bluetooth infotainment. So the car may be spying even without the phone, and/or engaging in 2 way crosstalk of recorded data. OR... a fully powered down phone is _still_ listening. Also very possible... remember removable batteries? How does a phone know you've been holding the power on for a full second to power back on? I should re-test with the phone's battery completely drained (to the point it can't wake up enough to say 'no' anymore). Then charge it, reunite it with the car, and see if there's any data moved that way.
Don't worry, Steve. Soon they'll offer a subscription service for "enhanced personal communication" where they'll agree to not eavesdrop on your private conversations...for a nominal recurring fee, of course. It can be bundled with the heated seats lol
If the supreme court can decide cases based on hypotheticals of future damages and even straight-up fake cases then every other court should be able to too.
And, in actual fact, they have already been harmed.. Their private information has been taken from them without explicit permission.. And I don't care about some default "agree to these terms to use the system" disclaimer - this is specific personal information that the car company should be clearly requesting access to EACH TIME!!
Agreed, its the one thing enabling 2A violations. No law should be allowed to reach vote that violates even a sentence in the constitution. Then checked against federal law followed by state. To which federal or state can never counter or violate constitutional paw.
There is a very simple solution to that problem. Do not sync your phone to the infotainment system in your car. Get a Bluetooth headset.
That doesnt make it okay though, you shouldnt have to seek alternatives to people spying on you, you should be able to go about your life without being spied on.
Ever heard of low power Bluetooth? On some new devices bluetooth doesn't even have to be turned "on" in order to scan nearby devices..
Yeah, because government and companies would _never_ make your gadgets quietly talk to each other independent of your "settings." The same way you _don't_ find out today that your phone is never truly "off" and absolutely _cannot_ be commandeered at any moment by those with the right tools... for the children, of course. Think of the children.
@@paulosullivan3472 It does not make it OK. But people can stop it from happening. Don't give me this BULLSHIT that you will be inconvenienced. It is your choice. Be inconvenienced or continue to let it go on. Or get a Bluetooth headset.
Infotainment systems are dangerous in more ways than one ! I remember when it was just a radio and then later on an optional tape player ! Everyone talks about the dangers of texting and driving and now your car is hooked into the internet ! 1984 anyone.
If you are a physician and using the system to call patients about their health, isn’t that in violation of HIPAA law?
I'm not 100% sure but i remember a case where google was in trouble because doctors used nest to take patient notes and google used that data for advertisement and another where facebook was in trouble because a tracker used on a hospitals website was gathering appointment data patients had set up on the hospital's website. So it likely is.
@@mattstorm360 Google on Friday defeated a lawsuit brought on behalf of 1.6 million people over medical records provided to the U.S. tech giant by a British hospital trust.
it's the doctors responsibility not the car makers regarding HIPPA regulations
Yes, but the violation would be on the part of the physician, as HIPPA only applies to the medical industry(i.e. no one is stopping a patient from releasing their own medical data.)
I would think that it could apply to at least defense attorneys as well. Nothing like someone else getting access to your game plans. Although Jim Harbaugh might be interested.
Ford has actually said it out loud, that the data is more valuable to them than the car is. In Wisconsin we worked on this for a while trying to get a law passed that makes the data in the car our property. GM came in to the hearings and caused as much confusion as they could and that was pretty much the end.
Recently we have had state reps say we should try again realizing how bad the companies lied to them.
Megacorps do this with everything. The energy companies in my state introduce laws and have representatives show up to make sure their interests are known, and without shock those laws pass easily. Hell, they introduced a bill to get rid of styrofoam food containers and a large grocery store chain came in to fight it and won. Something as silly as grocery food packing has megacorps altering the law to their benefit and not the benefit of the people.
Its sad that the quality of life for our unborn great great grandchildren (with regards to micro plastics and other forever chems) is decided by mega corps and their courts that simply don't care. @@jetjazz05
@@jetjazz05
The corporations write the laws and hand them already written to whoever they paid off to put forth as bills. This is has been known for decades. Former Sen. Bill Frist from TN? Yeah, he got immunity from lawsuits for vaccine manufacturers. It came out through an investigation that his office didn't write the bill; the pharmaceutical companies had their lawyers write the bill, their lobbyist's hand it to Frist's office, and he just got it passed.
Please try again
Calipornia will do it …
When I was in automotive school, the instructors were talking about how the government was trying to get car companies to move to OBDIII. The system would give the car the ability to self test AND REPORT the emissions results to the respective agency. Then the car would give you so many start cycles to get it repaired before it locks out the starter solenoid circuit so you can't use it until it's repaired. This was in 2018 so this doesn't surprise me at all.
Great vid. Years back I was assisting a union to salt a company I was working for. We were in the process of voting to go union. Two local union bosses told me that this capability existed and that we should leave our work phones in our vehicles and walk about 50’ away before discussing organization efforts. They said not all companies used that tech but it was definitely out there.
Between this and the potential government mandated kill switch, I can see a real demand for older models.
Older models or jail broken cars.
And I can see a real push for "regulation" banning dangerous "old cars."
@@mattstorm360aftermarket ECU's are going to be used for more than just making power.
😮 The kill switch bill passed. 19 Republican voted for it.
All automobiles must have a killswitch built into their vehicles by 2026.
It was in the must pass bills that had multiple crap bills put into it and some were put in at the last minute.
That's why Congress has to start passing 1 bill at a time with a floor vote.
@@ronnydowdy7432 a bunch of thisxstuff is going to get stripped out in the senate.
The implications are HUGE! And constitutional considerations are a major issue here. For LEO agencies to have access to these things without a court order and warrants is scary!
Doesn’t wiretapping do the same thing? Or do they need a warrant to do that? I didn’t even think about this till now and I’m curious.
@@xxbatman69xx98 I'm pretty sure they do need a warrant.
I'm pretty sure that these people don't care about the constitution or basic Human rights. Money and power only.
@@virginiamoss7045Do they need a warrant if companies just give them that info? Many company policies state they do comply with law enforcement.
@@virginiamoss7045 Oh ok just curious. Thanks.
I was a product manager at general motors in detroit at the renaissance center until twenty nineteen. While I cannot confirm nefarious acts, I did get to watch corporate decision making. Every avenue where privacy had a foothold was trounced when it was legal. It's a dirty game we're playing. Good thing some of us snuck in our own weapons.
You are absolutely right, I have talked about things with my wife, didn't do any internet searches on these topics, and low and behold, the ad's about our discussion start to appear. We thought we were being paranoid also until we found out it happens to friends and family also.
it doesnt matter, no need to be paraniod. if they want your phone info this is 1 out of 20 ways.
We are slowly transforming into a country our forefathers would have rebelled against.
I'm not convinced it's happening all that slowly, in historical terms.
We have been their for a long time.
We’re already there.
We passed that point a long time ago.
No we now ARE that country
I know you believe in the courts, Steve, but we are way beyond that at this point.
Solution to this is legislation
@@johntippin sure. It's been working great, hasn't it.
Black pill somewhere else. There are good judges out there, but yes there are a lot of bad ones too. It's not the end of the world, it just takes awareness, such as Steve is doing, to get the public to push back. Public opinion is very important in influential. We've gotten this way because people were asleep for too long.
Agreed. There is no remedy that does not involve things which gave this country our freedoms in the first place. You cannot change a system that does not allow the changes. There is too much perverse corruption and too much power against the people to do anything.
@@dragons_red
There's far and away more bad than good if there can be ANY amount of "immunity".
That's what i been saying to my friends that there is Nothing Wrong with the old vehicle. The material, The style and The simplesity..just you and your car...im miss my flip phone...Call, Talk and Flip up and Flip Down... wishing you all a wonderful thanksgiving ❤
Orwell warned us.
Orwell was a socialist.
If the car manufacturers are selling your data to advertisers, they are also giving that data away to the police for free.
This is a back doorway to abuse rights of privacy of the citizens.
It's not only free it's your lingo
We should just leave our phones everywhere for others to use. Give em a good time.
Bro😆@@Mr.EeToMyself
The issue is your assuming it's "your data" when it's not. You by agreeing to the terms and conditions of all the things you use, give away that data.
Your own ignorance & demand for convenience is doing this, not their malace, they are generally quite open about what they are doing if you know were to look.
Not only is your phone listening to you--your television, Siri, Alexa, and other systems are also listening to you. I think it's absolutely a shame that the courts take the position they take regarding the ability of these companies to collect our private information. Where will it stop?
It won't, not without revolutionary change.
we need to collect more bribe money than the companies
I asked Alexa is she was a spy and she said no. That how a spy would answer that question. I asked if she was always on listening and she said yes. I do not have Alexa at my place but I know people that have that box in 3 or 4 rooms of their house.
It'll stop at the end of a barrel. Sad to say, but truer every day.
throw in ring cameras... we live in a surveillance state
Naomi Brockwell did a great video on this exact topic recently but also more of the tech in the car that makes it possible. You should collab with her! Would love to see the law and tech folks attack this together!
EVERYTHING is listening to us...recording our steps...our paths we walk...our comings and goings...EVERYTHING!!!
I was a volunteer EMT 15 yrs ago in Washington state, and was warned in training not to use my cell phone to relay/record any patient info. Geesh--instead of getting better, it's gotten worse. This is important info for all HIPAA bound practitioners. Thanks Steve.
Pre-hospital is not HIPAA
@@SIGINT007sorry but it is!
I work in a blood bank ( overnight) and occasionally have to call a doctor/resident or my medical director for a problem patient. Sometimes they are driving. I give a lot of personal info over the phone. This is scary.
As an accountant, I’ve had to caution colleagues against using new AI to draft client emails, too. Everything is trying to suck up client data.
We can’t expect courts to do what legislators are supposed to be doing. This is precisely the kind of thing we need to write to our representatives about. That being said, invasion of privacy should be considered in-itself injurious, you shouldn’t have to prove some secondary harm
True, but I'm pretty sure that Politicians are cool with this.
You are under the assumption that politicians care more about voters than donors and lobbyists.
Yeah did I hear that right? "Violation of the law was not sufficient if there is no injury"
So you can break the law until someone figures out they've been stalked and killed because the law was broken? WTAF?
Didn't the politicians recently support installing equipment in every car sold in the US the ability to listen to tour speach while driving, monitor your driving performance and sniff the air inside your car so that they can turn your car off if they detect any deficiency in you? That sounds much more invasive than just gathering my phone data.
@@russellpilot1875 Yes, they did.
Generally, when I walk out of house, my phone is in flight mode. I have it for emergency purposes only.
Nothing is more disrespectful, IMO, then someone with a passenger/friend in a vehicle, chatting away, leaving them out of the conversation.
If something is 'personal', then it should be cut short and call deferred to another time. That said, phone etiquette is sorely missing in this era.
US. Coast Guard. I Thank You for your service & as well as your bravery.
It should be noted that when you first connect to a car's bluetooth your phone will ask you to grant permission for access to contacts and SMS. I know it's specifically meant for enabling the ability to hands-free-ask the car to "call mom" or "send dave johnson a text saying I want my dang money" ..I still always deny the permissions because I don't use the voice features.
It's that time of year again. I grab my wife's phone and read off my Christmas wish list about 10 times. She get flooded with ads, and I get my favorite items for Christmas. :)
That's crazy! I have a Chevy pickup and I use the hands-free through the trucks system all the time. It works great, in fact better than anything else I've seen! When I talk to my brother once a month long distance I sit in my truck because the sound is so good!! I also bought my truck when it was 8 months old and had 3500 miles on it. I'm reasonably sure I didn't sign anything agreeing to having anything on my phone accessed, or recorded!! This is the first I heard of it! Grrr!! 8( --gary
Great information. Thank you. Crazy times we’re living in.
The scariest part about this is, they can can collect all this information and then use it against you. Basically violating your constitutional right, treating everybody like a criminal and saying oh no, it’s just for gathering data… It’s disgusting
People are buying into new technology and don't understand the ramifications, get a degoogled phone, it's a start when Google don't know, then get off all major social media sites, people survived without many of these before
Fourth Amendment? Charge them for violations and put a stop to it.
A woman's privilege is to change her mind.
literally not how that works
Look up Tammy AI for a real scare. I saw a nutrition talk 20 minutes lots of complicated content. Someone had summarized the whole thing. really well written, key info. click on the person, its AI. Meaning all ur conversations the interested person runs the AI and asks tell me all the times he talked about X in a negative way. and bang a full history with time stamps of all the times ur offensive or something. Hate to be going through a divorce and jilted exz lawyer has access to this data
There’s nothing scary about it unless you’re a coward or have something to hide. They are not going to use that information against you. What are ridiculous idea.
The people you're looking to protect you from companies like these are the people allowing it to happen.
That's really all that needs to be said, except that I've come to believe that they're not just allowing it, but actually clandestinely demanding, forcing, and coercing companies to intrude on privacy and gather info. In my more naive days, I was flabbergasted that the government would 'allow' apps to have full access to everything on a person's phone.
How have ALL of these people been ' compromised ' ?
@@raycatlin3554
Time, effort, and resources. Same way they've taken control of our legislature. Lobbyists outnumber Congress Critters 100 to 1.
"We have the best government that money can buy."
@@raycatlin3554Simple 2 words. Lobbyists and Money.
theyre not just allowing it, theyre profiting from it
Steve, I am so glad you shared this warning. I live in Washington State. September 2022 I bought a 2018 Tundra. I bought it for "when" I need it. I've only put 15 miles on it, in 15 months. to get where I moved. I do keep it running and moved on the block. Sirius XM stopped badgering me to sign up for their info controls. They don't play my music. I only play my CDs in my Car and I will in my Truck when it's time. I use my Phone for Calls, News, Weather and occasional GPS without Vehicle Speakers. I'm not on Social Chat, nor Hooked for intruders beyond what's within my Tires and other implants in my vehicles.. My Hyundai Santa Fe, new in 2005 is still within 78,000 miles, so I think I can avoid "some" Spooks intruding in my vehicles for awhile. Thanks DT 12/7/2023
On-Star is watching us in vehicles and listening to our conversations. In some vehicles even though we do not have Onstar activated in our vehicles! It’s built into the vehicle! Chevrolet’s is one vehicle!!!
Once my wife and I were watching tv an she happened to say that it was time to replace our old luggage. This was the one and only time it was ever mentioned. An hour later I fired up my computer, an low and behold, up popped an add for luggage. Apparently my phone had heard the conversation and transmitted it to my computer. That was certainly an eye opening experience.
Just wait until a government employee with sensitive information plugs his phone into his car and that's going to come back in front of the courts rather quickly. I think that this is one of those cases where the government really ought to step in for their own sake.
Sorry, never happened.
... now sign this form, or
That is kind of happening now with mike johnson and his son using Covert Eyes to monitors each other’s online “activities”. He has put spyware on his computer.
Yep
Either vehicles owned by politicians will be given access to special menus as part of a common firmware to disable privacy-invasive features or vehicles purchased by politicians will be given special firmware and a separate repository which allows retained disablement of privacy-invasive features between system updates. Kinda like how Elon Musk's Teslas have special features compared to even the most expensive trim models and feature suites.
They'll just quip that driving is a "privilege ".
❤❤❤That's really scary😮...& Yes all phones are listening to you❤❤❤
This is why I buy old cars, fix them up and use them as my daily driver. I just fixed up a 99 Town car, so easy and cheap to fix anything that breaks on it. The big plus is the less technology involved, and just more moving parts the better. I will stick with my old cars.
Love how the courts thinking that a third party copying all your documents and selling them to other people is not a bad thing.
You will own nothing, have no privacy and be happy. Get in your pod and the bugs.
They didn't say that. They might, but they didn't say that. It is a narrow ruling, plaintiffs failed to show injury, that is on the plaintiff's lawyers, big oversight. Appeals court do not create new facts for a case, they judge on what already exists.
@@jeffreysmith236 They showed that a third party has their documents. Just because a judge decides that isnt an injury doesnt show that their was no injury, it just shows the judge is a tyrant that hates privacy.
Well I don't love that.
@@calebfielding6352judges can’t make laws though? Blame the law makers for being slow, and then blame them again for being slow to remove bad law also. They just suck in general.
Yes, at 1sr my mother would give me that look when I told her about talking in front of tv's, computers, etc. 2 yrs later, she doesn't talk important things anywhere near any devices. Which is hard sometimes. Got family & friends who says who cares their going to get info 1 way or another. Then suddenly a couple cares, b/c they had private matters come up, 1 of them said they've been bombarded with medical supply ads or lawyer ads etc. Hang on we'll be China like someday.
I'll bet that ads for the piece of yard maintenance equipment you mentioned will start popping up in my feed now. My phone is right here.
As mentioned below in relation to car rentals, there have been so many times I have rented a vehicle and found previous drivers/occupant info still on those systems. Names, phone numbers, addresses, what-nots... I make sure to wipe that info out for each rental I use. Keep this in mind....as soon as you release a rental back to the rental agency, you lose control of whatever data is downloaded to that vehicle. Maintain control of your information!
I bought a car recently and all the previous destinations were still stored... including the previous owners home and all contact info... scary stuff...
That is so surprising too! I would have thought they cleared that stuff out but seems not. The last used vehicle we bought a few years ago still had previous owner info in the system. I wiped that out.@@richardschaeffer3204
In 2019, when I went to pick up my new semi, my company rented me a car and I took the 2019 Nissan Altima and after about 5 hours. The car noticed my reaction time slowing and suggested I pull off and take a 20 minute break from driving.
Almost every vehicle made after 2015 is: tracking your eyes, recording audio and inside and video outside of the car (sometimes front and rear cams), they're tracking which features you use and whether you use them at dangerous times, tracking your gps location, acceleration and brake monitoring, etc.
It's only good if you're accused of causing an accident, but the cameras and/or sensors show that you weren't. Other than that, it's ALL bad!
It really depends on if it's doing that locally and saving the data or going out to a data farm to be saved and sold in perpetuity.
Like all the home security systems that just so happen to have terrible security and everyone can download the video and audio.
You wouldn't mind recording yourself all that much if you knew it wasn't leaving the location and would be personal. It's a totally different discussion if anyone can look at it.
@ferinzz It's usually only saved for about an hour before it's overwritten.
Most home security NVR's can only store video from 4-6 1080p cameras for about a week. 4 terabyte can store 6 cameras for about 2 weeks, as long as there's no audio.
creepy
Barry Morphew's Ford truck was 2013. The truck could tell what time he opened and closed the doors!
My Avalon tells me when my hands on not on the wheel and tracks lane departures and sends a warning. This is all internal for immediate driver support
This should be a violation for doctors AND lawyers and possibly other professionals. If someone is talking about something private / personal to their particular case someone who finds this out could use this against them. A hacker can make a killing on information like this. 🤬
Google is tracking your whereabouts at all time and keeps a record of them. We were getting coupons sent to our cellphone whenever we were near certain businesses. They even track what shelf you're near when you're in certain stores.
Cut off your location data.
i'm genuinely surprised this kind of intrusion to privacy doesnt fall under wiretapping/eavesdropping laws
and wouldnt it fall under espionage acts if they collect any classified info/data from government workers/contractors?
Yeah, you can't even safely record audio in a security system in some areas because of these laws, but your car can collect video and audio without your consent. And more! Did you know that Nissan's privacy policy specifically says that they can collect and share your sexual activity and collect your DNA? Since Nissan vehicles have interior cameras that means they are creating sex tapes of all their customers and of course sifting through text messages to find pictures and naughty conversations to add to their profile. And they can also collect DNA samples when you have your car maintained. The fact that minors do this means that they are without question in possession of illegally created and retained child pornography. Note that in some states it is legal for children to engage in such relations, but it still is not legal for even them to record themselves before they are both age 18.
And they aren't even the worst offender. Subaru's privacy policy says that just by being a passenger in a vehicle you consent to your data being collected. Even though a company has to get specific informed consent before collecting data about children they do so anyway.
this is corruption of our regulators and the loss of privacy rights
Indeed it is. But it's supported and sponsored by our gov'ts and therefor given a 'pass' because they, in turn, end up profiting too.
@@Elliandr welp, if nothing else i hope that the mention of child pornography will get my state's AG to do something about it. I just sent an email to their office.
Not in a communist country
I'm dying to see what happens when some judge or politician finds that all their call logs and text messages pop up someplace on the internet for all to see. It's only a matter of time before these car companies computers themselves get hacked and all this information gets leaked out onto the web for all to see
YESSSS can't wait for the Victim of their own creation to come into play. Nothing would be more fitting, especially if its a judge that allowed this to continue
They only leak what republicans do. All democrat evidence gets heavily redacted
John Oliver did a story on this. He baught information on some politicians. I'm waiting for a follow up
Awesome! I can't wait for that information to come out!
And some auto CEOs and boards.
We didn't sign a waiver on our car. But I see that the court is taking the lazy way out.
I remember that episode regarding the phone. I said the same thing to my daughter and she laughed and said that I was just paranoid! 😂😂😂
*Steve, This is a case for the Institute For Justice. See if they'll take it up.*
*The state can argue all they want, it is a clear violation of the Privacy Act. This has nothing to do with injury stuff? Who brought that up??.*
I am pretty sure he mentioned it was part of the law they were suing under. The law required there to be some tangible injury to be successful.
@@winstonwolf6791 *That's where lawyers make mistakes, they sue or argue the wrong point of view, which seems to be the case here.* *For example: as you know thousands of law firms have tried to sue cigarette companies for one health reason after another and they all lost, then this one Hispanic lawyer from his own small law firm sued under a different argument and he beat the biggest cigarette company on earth so easily that all the rest just settle out of court with him.*
@@gaiustacitus4242 *Each state is different, for example: California doesn't allow companies to take your information without your explicit consent. That why you will see some, if you use this you are consenting to,, etc... expect in California, etc..CA doesn't allow companies to pull that BS with their citizens. And this falls under the CA Citizen Privacy Protesting Act.*
@@gaiustacitus4242 18 USC 2511 Wiretapping?
@@gaiustacitus4242100% agree. Well stated.
I live in Norway. So we have actual privacy laws. And where we live, this would be illegal.
For private Corporations yes, that’s why the state(via the Security police, military or health services) take the info and then give the info to them for “data processing”.
The time for sipping tea with your pinky in the air has passed and you cannot think national laws will protect you(if you’re normally gifted) and must start to be more proactive.
Especially in a state like Norway where the state has as much power as the old Soviet union.
American laws are 50/50 on whether they actually do what they should do.
Sure ya do buddy. Make an "anonymous" Tweet claiming the holocaust never happened or criticizing your country's immigration policies and then tell me how private you are.
@@snex000Facts. Everyone is fine until they touch a third rail. And the third rail always moves.
It's illegal in Washington too. The courts just don't care, apparently.
So true. I was talking to my uncle and started seeing news feeds and ads regarding what I was talking about on my phone. Your TV listens to you too. My Tv does the same thing. As soon as I talk about something, a commercial comes on for it.
Young people gladly give up privacy, more important to tell Siri what song to play
To take this a step further. I was at a store and stopped in an aisle to look at something. I didn't physically touch the item or pick it up, I just looked at it while it was on the shelf. It was not an item I had looked at on the internet or discussed with anyone. It was just something that caught my attention as I was walking down the aisle. For the next few days all ads seen were related to the item, or items like it.
Twilight Zone comes to mind.
Your phone has very accurate gps location. The store has a digital map of their shelves and the items on them.
The AI learning systems are very good, and knows you stopped to look at something, then cross referenced the stores map.
Or your mind is being read and influenced, which is also possible.
Yesterday, I read the operating manual for a 76 year old sewing machine, specifically, the introductory pages about how to thread the machine and how to set up the machine for darning. I never mentioned it or spoke about it or looked it up online. About 20 minutes or so later I opened UA-cam on my cell phone. The second video in line was one precisely about what I had just read in the manual.
Yup. I might hear an ad on TV in the background then I get ads or recommendations on Amazon for that lol, or me and a friend would be standing outside talking about a TV show, then he would be getting ads on his phone about that TV show.
Figures that this lawsuit is in Washington State! The most liberal leftist state ever! I’m surprised anyone there was bothered…..
This is disgusting! No person should be monitored secretly. These people are EVIL!
All your comments and all the UA-cam videos you watch “they” can figure out who you are.
I hope you are starting to see. 😂prophecy
**Jeremiah 16:19**
“O LORD, my strength, and my fortress, and my refuge in the day of affliction, the Gentiles shall come unto thee from the ends of the earth, and shall say, Surely our fathers have inherited lies, vanity, and things wherein there is no profit.”
You're never alone in this world. Your smart phone is listening.
Wait, let's bring it to the most extreme logical conclusion. If they are openly saving they are saving them couldn't you find a politician, lawyer or judge with a car or their spouse or children's cars and get a court order or request and get all the messages? Are law enforcement using them to bypass phone carriers? Seems like something is there just someone would need to dig.
Right, exactly, because until it harms them, they will do nothing about it.
@@Somewhere-In-AZEven then I feel like deep state has already got most of them by the short hairs, so they will do nothing.
How is this the most extreme?
Also, you should edit your comment for grammar because it's somewhat incoherent.
@@Somewhere-In-AZ when politicians are adversely affected by laws, instead of changing the law to something more reasonable, they are more likely to change nothing and instead just exempt themselves from that law because they see themselves as above the law.
@@covid19alpha2variantturboc7 exemption makes no sense if their cars are downloading nekid pictures off their phones. LOL 😂
The power that these judges keep giving the state and corporations is egregious criminal
Corporations own the state at this point. Thanks citizens united.
You guys still believe in voting and judges???😂😂😂 the only JUDGES there are are YAHWEH’s Judges. Those who are gonna judge the earth for all of this wickedness.
I see a potential business that removes and disables all this spying technology.
Corporations are the ultimate loophole around the constitutional restraints that bound government because somewhere in the fine print we contracted with them
US courts at the federal level are largely packed with conservative judges. This is the risk every country faces: conservative judges tend to favor corporate and state power at the expense of individual liberty.
More people need to bring up lawsuits.
It’s not the consumer/marketing aspect that’s most dangerous. Any anti-establishment statements are a risk.
It’s time for citizens to band together and lobby their lawmakers to make it illegal! Then the courts won’t be able to back the surveillance state.
Lobby? Funny way of saying using the 2nd amendment to physically and forcefully stop the NWO
Why now and not when the drug war kicked up in the 90s and certain highschool kids were thrown up against walls and getting cavity searches...
Looks like this guy's in new york? Did he make videos about stop and frisk?
The middle class should've addressed this happening to the lower class.
When is the last time you seen citizens ban together over anything? Oh you must be talking about the ones that protest their lives matter more than anyone else, or the ones that burn down cities and hate cops.
The rest of the citizens hunker down in their home afraid to go out in fear of being attacked or worse. The rest are too busy watching football on television or Susie's dance lessons. As far as contacting their lawmakers that are getting money and payoffs, Good luck with that.
This should be a civil rights violation on privacy.
I don't think you understand that ALL THE COURTS ALONG WITH THE POLITICIANS ARE ALL UNDER THE SAME UMBRELLA AS WELL AS YOUR POLICE FORCE 😜...
Land of the free...
Law...... Definition
Thee opinion of a puppet that is forced upon us with the barrel of a rifle....
Freedom
You know it's bad when your not surprised by anything involving electronics spying.
So true. Just recently I bought a digital audio recorder to help me with my book writing, &, in that it is "MADE IN CHINA" (& believe you me, I have been very deliberate since 2020 to avoid products marked "MADE IN CHINA" as much as I can), I had to really wonder, & yet wonder, if the CCP is not installing devices into even electronics such as audio recorders that are made in China so as to gather & transmit to themselves information gotten by such stealth.
The world is at a very crazy point of widespread tyranny, &, behold, Satan is definitely behind it, even as the Scriptures prophesied.
Edward Snowden blew the whistle on it.
Snowden NEVER cared about Canada @@CopaseticFate , so it doesn't work
It's time to go back to an old-fashioned typewriter. No spell check, but you know it will be private.
Pigeons are watching you, they’re working for the government 🐦🕶
Thank you for your informative comments. I had no idea!
Love your pickleball shirt, hope I see ads for the shirt in my feed after writing this.
this is something to be aware of in rental cars. I recently got a rental car and the infotainmet system still displayed information on several prior users who had synched their phones to the car. Included was phone name (eg "Bob's phone") with a phone number and their call logs. So I could go into "Bob's Phone" and see his phone book, his call history, etc.
Good point.
Time to bring back cds or burner phones with downloaded music. This is out of control, but it’s been like that since at least 2015. I remember getting an almost brand new rental that had exactly what you’re taking about.
See it all the time in rental cars.
You delete your phone before you turn in the rental car. I do this all the time. I also delete everyone elses crap before I hook mine up. Always delete your phone from infotainment system before turning car in.
That explains why ride share requires you to only use newer cars in order to work for them. Its disgusting
i used to work for a large company a few thousand employees that held an annual picnic. it was a daylong event with bbq, entertainment, and games like a small fair. there was a liability form that had to be signed to attend. it was 3 pages long. i read it and questioned why there was a paragraph in the middle that allowed the company to use my likeness in advertising and promotional material. psychopaths gotta psychopath.
"I believe that if the people of this nation fully understood what Congress has done to them over the last 49 years, they would move on Washington; they would not wait for an election....It adds up to a preconceived plan to destroy the economic and social independence of the United States!" --George W. Malone, U.S. Senator (Nevada), speaking before Congress in1957.
I recently retired after 40 years in the IT industry.
During that time I did not participate in any social media nor did I allow any of my devices to “auto connect” to anything.
Why? Because of exactly what Steve describes in this video.
You have no idea how much of your personal information is grabbed without you knowing about it.
And participating in social media and allowing your devices to “auto connect” just makes it that much easier.
I remember reading a story about the downfall of Sears. The story was how the new CEO felt that the value of the company was in their information about their customers. And was so invested in that they neglected the company operations to the point of bankruptcy.
Sears was a great store then it got to be a big joke....real fast!
I thought it was their clothing buyer who had crappy taste LOL!
My recollection was that they started failing when the new CEO redesigned their stores into mazes. Literally put up floor to ceiling false walls everywhere so you couldn’t navigate to exits or to the department you wanted without wandering all over the store. I heard stories of elderly people getting so lost and confused they started crying in the store. Young or old, people were so frustrated that they started avoiding going into the store at all.
The issue is, if you buy the car used and this happens to you, you have not even, implicitly, given permission for them to do this. This needs to be taken to the supreme court honestly, but it's a gross invasion of privacy.
the sc is corrupt
They will always rule in favor of corporations. The US has one of the most openly corrupt legal systems in the world.
It's no use. Commies gonna do whatever they want
Many folks heartily believe the supreme ct has abandoned their obligation and duty to Constitutionally protect citizens.
@@TargttdGmakinda like most career politicians.
Lol, before watching this video that popped up first on my recommendations, I was googling attorneys, definitely not a coincidence
I don’t think I have to worry about my 1967 El Camino spying on me at all! Besides we’ve been friends for 56 years and I don’t think it’s going to tell on me anyway. However, we’re both outlaws!
Nothing will ever stop this. Authoritarians at the highest level demanded this be put in place.
You know what will stop this? People start refusing to buy any car that has that technology. When nobody is buying those cars for that reason, things will change real fast.
You are correct. At this point it is what it is.
@@Qrayonexactly. Voting with our dollars is the only vote that counts.
@@TempoDrift1480 It's not what it is.
@@Qrayon So what you are saying is that you are willing to walk or take a bus everywhere? Oh wait the bus probably does the same thing!
Someone needs to change the privacy laws in all our states or better yet, at the federal level, to make this illegal.
I'm sure someone will get right on that. Lmao
It's illegal. It's against RCW 9.73. 030. It's wiretapping. IDK how the 9th circuit overlooked this
@@johnwesley256 Hi, thanks for pointing this out. Could you repost it at the top of the comments please?
Would love to. But when I last posted it on the comments it got buried under all the new comments.
Edit: reposted. It should be at the top of the newest comments
Who would this _"Someone"_ be who will _"Change the privacy laws?"_ ...It certainly isn't anyone in government. That would go against their interest in cultivating power over people. The government isn't interested in people's rights... only the illusion thereof, enough to placate the population and keep them from rising up.
In 10 years, your car will tell cops that you aren't wearing your seat belt so they can come right to you and give you a ticket.
In 20 years, your car will come with a small printer that just gives you the ticket immediately like in The 5th Element.
We've come a long way since cops weren't allowed to pull you over JUST for no seat belt; they had to have a "legitimate" reason. Speeding, tail light out, not enough screws holding the license plate ...
then you won't be able to start the car if the ink runs out.
Demolition Man. 😜
I guarantee you nine times out of ten, it'll be a false positive; the sensors detected a bag of groceries on a passenger seat or something. I'll give it about a 60% chance that the courts won't care upon appeal, depending on location.
@@pauls5745 If the ink runs out it will brick the car.
to the HIPPA law question (hippa is all about patient confidentiality) unfortunately as someone who has used telemedicine they will have forms for you to sign making sure that you're not driving as far as i'm aware... at first i thought it was so you weren't distracted during your appointment but now i'm thinking it was because of this 😕
6 or so yrs back On U-tube I read all electric Appliances have chips in to listen to U- even that little vacuum that rides around your floor- ALL electric appliance frim certain date( yr) have chips in no privacy any more
Oddly, without your car being involved, your phone already does all of that anyway. It also tracks where you take it 24/7/365. If you use Facebook or Google on your phone, it also listens to you and tailors your advertisements and news items to what it hears you say.
Disable location and no tracking..
Don't have a smartphone.
I was talking to a couple friends just two days ago about a new motorcycle helmets and then suddenly my phone vibrates in my pocket and said 60% off all the helmets from the RevZilla is that a coincidence!!! I would say not??
Actually, it is quite funny to be up in arms about one's car's infotainment center doing this. When, like you said, their phones, among other devices, are already doing this.
Also, you do have the option on Android to not allow phone or contact access to any devices. There are ways around all of this, just learn the technology and use it as if it were a firearm. Don't touch it if you aren't aware of the precautions and consequences
I love my old car! No worries about this stuff just keep air in the tires and fuel in the tank.
Very true im only sticking to cars from 2000s to 2006, anything with a touch screen is a no for me
It is "MY INFORMATION"; which makes that theft of "MY INFORMATION FOR THE PURPOSE OF PROFIT"! That is B.S. Thanks for these insightful videoes!
As soon as those computer key fobs came about, we lost more privacy. To have an extra one made, a person has to show there ID or drivers license.
This is why I never sync my phone to anything. Not my car, not my computer, not even to my iTunes. Everything is either aux plug or blue tooth. If we start to adopt the early 200s mindset of having tech but it not having an input in every second of every day, then we're good. But shame on these companies for literally stealing our data and shame on the courts for not outlawing these predatory practices.
The courts are paid off and meant to not hold up rule of law. Look up George Soros.
Unfortunately sweetheart they need a conscience. And they wouldn't do what they do if they had a conscience in the first place
Anything wifi or Bluetooth can be hacked.
Wires can be hacked too
I 100% agree with you but here's the issue, your other family members don't do this, so when you ride with them or family gather with them... yea
This is always good to know. My one and only car, though, is so old that the latest technology in it is a cassette tape player. Lately I've been glad about that.
My Mustang Mach One had a recent b-day. She's 51 years old and still looks hot.
She's a very private ride.
I use this system to talk with clients. My conversations are confidential. This breaks HIPPA laws.
Yes, your phone is listening to you! I get text every so often about something that I been talking to my wife about.
Steve... thank you for providing this information. The part about just "call logs" has always been in the public domain. I can obtain call logs from the phone company to show your bills, which have a complete list of what number you called and when. I don't agree with that being available, but there is case law allowing it now and it would take some concerted effort to restrict that to only be obtainable via a subpoena or other legal instrument that would come from a judge. However! To record ANYTHING privately discussed or mentioned and gained without consent is already a violation of our Constitutional rights. There is something fishy about how this was danced around by the courts. It should be that those on the bench should hold to their sworn duties and if it doesn't apply to ONE law but indeed DOES circumvent others - then they are legally REQUIRED to being suit against whomever is breaking that law on behalf of the PEOPLE. THAT is what is NOT being done - we are awash in bought-and-paid-for corrupt judiciary, law enforcement and government corruption. Republican, Democrat and Independent alike are ALL being subjected to a subjective application of our Rule of Law. From the President of the United States on down to the last attorney who passed the bar.... there are VERY few left who are not corrupt. Welcome to the new Soviet Union.
Have a client text you while you're in your vehicle and sue for breach of lawyer-client confidentiality. Especially if they can/do turn that over to the police.
Likely wouldn't work. Ford would argue the lawyer was at fault as they were the one that connected their phone and thus it was the lawyer that chose to send their data to Ford. Now maybe you could argue that it wasn't obvious enough in the terms that you agreed to, but you're not starting your argument from a position of strength, and that argument only works if you didn't know about this issue beforehand.
The phone is definitely curating my ads and overall online experience using my conversations. And not just conversations made Using the phone itself.
I already knew that too. Trust me, I don't think there's anything that I haven't thought about or seen by far as of yet. All I can say is keep it coming.
If you need to use the USB connection to charge your phone in a car, including a rental car, use a "data condom" (a data blocking device) - a small, usually red colored device to plug your USB into. It will allow you to charge your phone without the data connection happening.
You can get a stand alone charger that plugs into the 12 volt receptacle, the side effect is that your phone charges faster compared to plugging into the built-in USB ports.
Or just get a cheap cable. Most of those only have 2 wires for +/- power, not data.
I used to have all data cables and hated trying to charge my phone from my 'puter and having it connect as a storage device, and had to hunt around for power-only cables. Now it's just the opposite, everybody and his grandmother gives out power-only cables and now I gotta treat like gold the 1-2 cables that have all wires (ie, including data) connected for when I need them.
Just use a USB cable that is charging only. They usually have a sticker stating as such, as there is no data pin. No silly "condom" required if the cable never had data wires to begin with.
Some new cars won't charge the phone if there's a "data condom" on it or if you use a "power only" cable, and fast charging definitely doesn't work. This could also be a function of the newest phone OSes which really want permission to connect to everything they possibly can. Best to use the 12-volt receptacle with your own charger plugged into it, like someone already said.
@@marvelljones72 For sure you will lose fast charge as data wires are required for either detecting resistors or two-way handshake for USB-PD etc.........but wow not even providing 500mA? So far I haven't run into that yet even on rentals.
It drives me crazy when I complain about this and my friends always say, "you're already carrying a smartphone around, what's the difference if your car does it too?" And while I get the logic, I just can't help but feel that the fewer ways I allow random people to invade my privacy, the better off I am.
phones dont have to spy on us, we've just resigned ourselves to it
That's exactly how I feel too. Just because I already have to deal with something invading my privacy doesn't mean I need to open more door ways to more access to my information. I'm trying to express another analogy that would be like what your friends said that doesn't make any point. Such as it be like saying what's the point of eating healthy or driving with a seat belt on or other things cause your just gonna die in the end anyway. Like ya ok but that doesn't mean one has to cut their life short of suffer through it till death. Doing things to prevent an early death do matter. Your friends argument has no leg to stand on. They only demonstrate complacency but that may bite them in the ass later on if an issue arises related to them being spied on.
Just like the frog said "The water is warm." on it's way to being boiled alive.
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Considering people are on their phones constantly and blindly clicking accept on user agreements on every app, the least of my worries is my car doing the same thing.
Steve, I have a security camera system on my camper and it has GPS. With an app on my phone I can view any or all of the 8 camera's real time, I can track and playback the route the camper has traveled, and I can see where it is at any given point. The server is in China 🙀
I'm seriously considering eliminating the mobile phone. All three spying is beyond ridiculous. Infuriating! 😠
Rage Against The MachIne
I've always been partial to any year vehicles (some much better than others) pre-1980's. This makes me even more certain. And absolutely the phones are monitoring you. I'm a minimal phone user and I've mentioned a few very obscure subjects and then started seeing an advertisement for that I had never seen before.
The phone is listening. AND watching.
Steve, they area transmitting data. A new audio system I had installed in my car, stopped functioning. As it turns out, the installers used a 'cheat' device around the hand break as some of the wiring is suppose to be tied into it. The manufacturer of the unit sent a "kill" signal to the device making it useless until the defeat device was removed.
Every time I’m on the phone and I mention something the ads do pop-up from Walmart Amazon furniture store. Whatever I’m talking about. It does pop up in ads on my phone.
This came up in the Suzanne Morphew murder case in Colorado. Police suspected her husband of murdering her and disposing of the body because he had put his phone in airplane mode and was seen on cameras driving around to dumpsters throwing away something. Police used his pickup's GPS data to track his movements through software developed by the Berla corporation to pull those travel logs since the phone's travel path was untraceable because of the airplane mode. (Side Note: he was later tried and found not guilty based on lack of solid evidence, AND her body was then later discovered in an area of Colorado his pickup had never been to but is notorious as a serial murder dumping ground. On top of that an unknown male's DNA who police know as a serial murderer of an as yet unidentified person was found in her vehicle and other locations with nobody knowing how it got there). P.S. there are apps that will delete your phone's data from your vehicle's computer.
So in that case, the GPS data helped prove his innocence.
@@nigelcox1451 Does appear to be the case, yes.
What are those apps?
@@zevothebusdriver9152 There are several out there, but here is one: Privacy4Cars
Wrong. The GPS data was used to prosecute him. The lack of other evidence exonerated him.
This is going to be bad when they install a kill-switch and shut it off at THEIR will.
That's already a thing commonly seen in loans and possible to do by company's like Tesla.
A kill switch isn't a problem, as long as you control your property. The problem is Americans have gotten even lazier then I thought possible and we don't care about privacy or ownership anymore.
The kill switch bill passed and is scheduled to start in 2026. It was buried in another bill. One of the many reasons we need to get back to single item bills. Pretty sure the majority of voters don't want to give control of their vehicle to an outside entity.
You think they cant already do that? They control the computer. The computer runs the engine. Thats not even the scary part. Have you heard of "drive by wire"? Most modern cars don't have a physical connection between the steering wheel and pedals. It's all electronic, controlled by the same computer.
They already can do that! Sorry for the bad news
Yep! 🤣 it's called "the Grid"......
I wonder if this works both ways?
I was once testing my phone for "custom advertising" based on spying. What surprised me though, was that I tried powering the phone off (not just the screen, I mean fully powered down). And it still worked... but I was testing it in a car, with bluetooth infotainment.
So the car may be spying even without the phone, and/or engaging in 2 way crosstalk of recorded data.
OR... a fully powered down phone is _still_ listening. Also very possible... remember removable batteries? How does a phone know you've been holding the power on for a full second to power back on?
I should re-test with the phone's battery completely drained (to the point it can't wake up enough to say 'no' anymore). Then charge it, reunite it with the car, and see if there's any data moved that way.
Wait till you say or texted something wrong and your car locks you in and drives you to the nearest police station 😂
Don't worry, Steve. Soon they'll offer a subscription service for "enhanced personal communication" where they'll agree to not eavesdrop on your private conversations...for a nominal recurring fee, of course. It can be bundled with the heated seats lol
And then they will still eavesdrop covertly...
The notion that you must already be harmed to file suit over wrongdoing is ludicrous and needs to be abolished from the entire legal system.
If the supreme court can decide cases based on hypotheticals of future damages and even straight-up fake cases then every other court should be able to too.
And, in actual fact, they have already been harmed.. Their private information has been taken from them without explicit permission.. And I don't care about some default "agree to these terms to use the system" disclaimer - this is specific personal information that the car company should be clearly requesting access to EACH TIME!!
This is one of the major reasons for mass incarceration.
@@JK-tq5oeExactly! The theft of the data IS the chief harm. There can be more downstream harms as well.
Agreed, its the one thing enabling 2A violations. No law should be allowed to reach vote that violates even a sentence in the constitution. Then checked against federal law followed by state. To which federal or state can never counter or violate constitutional paw.
I haven't owned a smartphone for 2 years. Life is better without a rectangular prison for your eyeballs.
The car makers don't make profit from selling cars anymore, they make their profit from you, the owner 🙂