Really love the video, but a recommendation is to have a list of all the weapons and their damage numbers so we can get a grand idea of the weapons. Love the content, keep at it
You essentially get reconstruction if using the actium war rig on any of these. You could add a generous 20-30% by just changing the chest piece pre-damage.
@@eyeONE_Official true, that makes perks like the Thunderlord catalyst and 4ths time all the more important. Exotics for the other classes could inclued the likes of Rain of Fire and Lunafaction Boots for Warlocks. For Hunter's Gyrfalcon's+Marksmen Dodge for a void application, Speedloader Slacks to help with group reload. Loads of options for this playstyle on the other two classes, mate.
I have a crafted retrofit and thank God I grinded it out back then because I always have an incredible amount of DPS over all of my buddies and I love being on top of the board lol
Heir Apparent is insane with void lock and devour , you get instant healed and full over shield every kill and are a tank on the battlefields, plus it has high dps as shown in this vid, its underrated
My favorite Xena, second the swam both are good aim and clear, but I use thunderlord and retrofit as DPS now I'll try getting used to overture but like you said their a first and a last
Thank you for validating my experience with RE. That gun shreads. I use it in all pve content. Was running arc surge lost sector and RE was out performing all arc heavies, including thunderlord. Thanks for the video.
Why werent Qua Xaphan or Fixed Odds used in the comparison? In the end, I dont use LMGs for their pure boss DPS output. I use them for their versatility throughout an activity. Xenophage's reserves have ALWAYS been its greatest weakness and it makes me very sad because I otherwise LOVE that weapon.
I have a archons thunder with surplus and rampage plus a Seventh Seraph SAW with zen moment/firing line. Good for add clear but don’t know about boss. They’ve have been in my vault forever now
Not to be a hater comment, but that's kinda weird to test some MG's with good perks, some without, not taking titans chest for some additional ammo loading for machine gun is also kinda weird. Overall, pretty but I think Aztecross did a better job of machine gun testing on same boss but earlier
Drives me nuts that to take full advantage of target lock you have to go over 100% of the magazine size. So when bungie puts it on these guns without giving it a way to go over the standard mag size with something like fttc, it seems like they’re just trolling us. They don’t want us to feel the full benefit the gun has to offer 🤷🏻♂️
Why isn't anyone testing these with actium? especially in the case for retrofit as its damage would be higher than projected even when omitting the reloads as target lock would stay active for longer and wouldn't have to be re-ramped up to max stacks as many times.
A separate test would be beneficial to show their max capability. But excluding it makes sense considering only one class can use actium. Gives data relevant regardless of class or exotic armor.
I clicked this video to see what FIXED ODDS would be. I got both god rolls and was upset to not see it tested. Please if anyone knows if FIXED ODDS is good for dps let me know. I know it's great for ad clear but I'm not sure about boss damage.....
They are made for ammo economy theyre great for harder pve content theyre good at killing champions and beefier targets but people take them as add clear/dps weapons 🤷I mean most exotic machine guns are for dps but other than that is I said theyre versatile for harder endgame content.
@MASTERLinkYT96 the only real machine gun you should be using for damage reliably for both good burst and total is Grand Overture. I do agree that machine guns are mainly for somewhat beefier enemies and ad clear. They're mainly the most efficient ad clear method, due to the ammo conservation due to their damage per bullet
Honestly this list is very very false tbh. Commemoration is the best machine gun in the game when considering a machine Gun's role in PvE which is highly efficient red and elite slaying
Really love the video, but a recommendation is to have a list of all the weapons and their damage numbers so we can get a grand idea of the weapons. Love the content, keep at it
Absolutely love the retrofit escapade... was stuck at 4/5 til it came back. Was so excited to finally be able to craft this monster of a weapon
xenophage needs a catalyst like sleeper where it gets a slight fire rate boost and deeper reserves, or it would be really cool to see it apply scorch.
Yeah its been in the game for so long it would be cool to see it get something
Definitly deeper ammo reserves... they empty so fast!
Circular logic has been my favorite since Lightfall dropped. Deterministic chaos also with any void build
Same. Love rhe logic!
Thank you for compiling these. I tried many DPS types, and always come back as a machine gun guy.
Machine guns are the past. Shotgun Ammit is now
Explain
For now till they are fixed by next reset. Bungie said to have fun for now.
Pssshhh that's so 2 hours ago..... it's shotgun plankstride with mulligan now.
Retrofit stays in my heavy spot. Has been since I crafted it.
Lie again
They really need to buff Deterministic Chaos because those numbers are worst than legendary LMGs -_-
A table with the ranking of results will be nice for the next DMG test. Keep the good work
noted, ty!
You essentially get reconstruction if using the actium war rig on any of these. You could add a generous 20-30% by just changing the chest piece pre-damage.
agreed, but not everyone plays a titan
@@eyeONE_Official true, that makes perks like the Thunderlord catalyst and 4ths time all the more important.
Exotics for the other classes could inclued the likes of Rain of Fire and Lunafaction Boots for Warlocks. For Hunter's Gyrfalcon's+Marksmen Dodge for a void application, Speedloader Slacks to help with group reload. Loads of options for this playstyle on the other two classes, mate.
very true point
I have a crafted retrofit and thank God I grinded it out back then because I always have an incredible amount of DPS over all of my buddies and I love being on top of the board lol
Heir Apparent is insane with void lock and devour , you get instant healed and full over shield every kill and are a tank on the battlefields, plus it has high dps as shown in this vid, its underrated
I've only gotten 1 retrofit escapade. It dropped with 4th times a charm and Vorpal. It's not the best roll, but I like it a lot
That's one of the best boss dps rolls
@@Swaggmire215 machine guns shouldn’t be used for boss dps
target lock would be better but it really got nerfed this past season but those bullets come out so fast, very satisfying
@@utlandskdepends if it’s timed then yeah don’t cause not good dps but if it’s not or very long then yeah good damage
Good thing I have the grand overture
Sense this thing is a literal eradicator of everything
Always very informative, thank you.
My favorite Xena, second the swam both are good aim and clear, but I use thunderlord and retrofit as DPS now I'll try getting used to overture but like you said their a first and a last
yep yes indeed lol
Thank you for validating my experience with RE. That gun shreads. I use it in all pve content. Was running arc surge lost sector and RE was out performing all arc heavies, including thunderlord. Thanks for the video.
That gun is absolutely broken and I love it
Pardon wouldn't Circular be better with Target Lock as well?
yes. vorpal is only 10% and one stack of target lock is 15% up to 40%. so even if you never get above 1 stack its still better.
Why werent Qua Xaphan or Fixed Odds used in the comparison? In the end, I dont use LMGs for their pure boss DPS output. I use them for their versatility throughout an activity. Xenophage's reserves have ALWAYS been its greatest weakness and it makes me very sad because I otherwise LOVE that weapon.
I would've loved to see the stats for planiks stride. I made it craftable and wondered what stats would work better for dps.
I like the corrective measure.
I have a archons thunder with surplus and rampage plus a Seventh Seraph SAW with zen moment/firing line. Good for add clear but don’t know about boss. They’ve have been in my vault forever now
how accurate are the numbers cause few had the debuff procc and others dint
Have you ever done a video featuring the Gambit machine gun with firing line?
Seraph's saw still shreads!
1:36 you mean the "electric pineapple"😁
hahaha so true!
Hmmm, no commemoration with shotty frame?
I need one last red border for retrofit escapade to finally craft one 🙈🙈
hopefully you get it!
Retrofit escapade end of discussion
bait and switch rocket
@@Ghoats I might have to check that out
do NOT let lfgs see this...
Not to be a hater comment, but that's kinda weird to test some MG's with good perks, some without, not taking titans chest for some additional ammo loading for machine gun is also kinda weird.
Overall, pretty but I think Aztecross did a better job of machine gun testing on same boss but earlier
Drives me nuts that to take full advantage of target lock you have to go over 100% of the magazine size. So when bungie puts it on these guns without giving it a way to go over the standard mag size with something like fttc, it seems like they’re just trolling us. They don’t want us to feel the full benefit the gun has to offer 🤷🏻♂️
yeah i feel ya my dude
Corrective measure left the chat
i sadly didnt have one to use at the time of the testing
Thank you
Why isn't anyone testing these with actium? especially in the case for retrofit as its damage would be higher than projected even when omitting the reloads as target lock would stay active for longer and wouldn't have to be re-ramped up to max stacks as many times.
A separate test would be beneficial to show their max capability. But excluding it makes sense considering only one class can use actium. Gives data relevant regardless of class or exotic armor.
You forgot the one from the taken king raid
yes you're right! my bad, i also forgot corrective, but i dont have good rolls of either, atleast not when doing the testing
I clicked this video to see what FIXED ODDS would be. I got both god rolls and was upset to not see it tested. Please if anyone knows if FIXED ODDS is good for dps let me know. I know it's great for ad clear but I'm not sure about boss damage.....
High impacts in general aren’t great for bosses
I think your dsp numbers are scuffed as on some of your weapon test the artifact debuff perk raid fire ranger is activating upon hitting crits
First Comment, Love your content. Have a good September :)
I think it’s pronounced like “free zsheea”
why no corrective measure?
i didn't have an updated one to use at the time of the test
doesnt chain of command have adrenaline junkie
yes, it has optional traits
Retrofit all day
Did you do one on Autorifles with this boss? More specifically Sweet Business on the Titan.
No point in testing machine gun dps when rockets and gls outperform all of them. Machine guns are better for ad clear in high end content
Damage per second yeah but not total damage
@@ncrranger8449 total dmg doesn’t matter that much when the raid bosses are dead in one set of reserves either way
@@utlandsk also grand overture has high burst dps
@@utlandsk depends on the boss honestly and if your doing master mode
I thought vorpal was changed to give 15% to primary's, 10% to secondary, and 5% to heavy
Its 20% on primary, 15% on specials, 10% on heavy
where fixed odds
im sorry, but this video is just all over the damm place...
Machine guns aren't built for DPS besides 2 and one of them takes about 2 minutes to dump all of its load. The other is an exotic
They are made for ammo economy theyre great for harder pve content theyre good at killing champions and beefier targets but people take them as add clear/dps weapons 🤷I mean most exotic machine guns are for dps but other than that is I said theyre versatile for harder endgame content.
@MASTERLinkYT96 the only real machine gun you should be using for damage reliably for both good burst and total is Grand Overture. I do agree that machine guns are mainly for somewhat beefier enemies and ad clear. They're mainly the most efficient ad clear method, due to the ammo conservation due to their damage per bullet
Please fix your audio. Invest in yourself and get a better mic.
Honestly this list is very very false tbh. Commemoration is the best machine gun in the game when considering a machine Gun's role in PvE which is highly efficient red and elite slaying
weirdos are using mgs for dps for some reason lmao. also commemoration, song of ir yut, and unwavering duty are the best mgs rn