I had very little issue with ground handling. Only took two trys to get it right. If you disconnect the servo arm on elevator, it's much easier to attach. No third arm needed. HH hit it out of the park with this one!
Perfecting a good landing is super rewarding and is well worth investing the time needed to get consistantly stable smooth landings...its one of my favorite things to do in fixed wing rc aircraft
Jon we got some extra throw out of the rudder mechanically without going too far out on the servo arm if you want to check out our review...we show how to do it. It makes keeping the tail in check on takeoff easier. (and for you probably more wild acro! lol) Also getting the elevator clevis on is easy if you first take the arm off the servo and slide the push rod back to clear the slot. Nice review buddy. This is my kind of plane...love it!
Ended up moving it to the next hole out and changing out the wheels to DuBro low bounce 2.5" wheels - hopefully that'll help tame it down. Also changed out the doodoo-tier tailwheel for a much better rubber one that's a little thicker.
@@TwoBrosRC Hello guys, I ordered DuBro 2.75" as the OEM tires measured 2.8". My question is how did you change them out with out damaging the landing gear?
@@ralphfrasier2079 You use a sharp edged screwdriver or awl of some kind and insert it into the plastic gear strut at the seam, then slowly peel them apart. After that you remove the wheel, replace it, and toss the wheel back on again and glue the halves back together.
Increasing the tail wheel 2 sizes larger help stabilize the take off roll outs much better i get my tail up asap to maintain a straight line down the runway. Another good reason to up size your tail wheel is that it gets the wing angle more level and makes it less likely to hop and bounce down the runway.
I've not looked at this plane. $400+ is a bit much for a 1.5, like HH upping their price on the eflite extra 300 to $400 is insane for what little 1 gets. Imo
@@TwoBrosRC now you got me confused. you mention yourself in the video the high price... compared to a 1.5m BushMule $200 or a 1.7m KingTwin $240 which require no modifications I cannot see how this plane is a "good deal" for anyone. It's a nice plane yes but wears a proud price tag. Is it worth the extra $200? up to everybody individually to make that call. I'd rather buy a nice Freewing 90mm jet for the same money :)
Great slow mo. 1:3615:50 shows the differential thrust is late and out of sync, causing the yaw instability. One again, just bcs its possible doesn’t mean we have to do it. I’ll bet its solid on takeoff without the robot on the throttles, especially with the H tail activated by the twin motors.
The manual called for trimming the throttle up to right before the motors activate to get the most out of the differential thrust that's active by default. It's been reset to normal trim. That should help.
I hope you plan to push the envelope in future vids. I’m envisioning wicked flat spins with more differential thrust (My EC-1500 would really wrap up with one at WOT and the other at idle)…….But with the Twin Beech you can put one in reverse and one in forward thrust! Imagine the fun!
@@TwoBrosRC Thats weird, I’ve never seen that kind of ground looping craziness with a yaw axis gyro. Except on a UMX. Are the wheels/tires binding on the struts, maybe? Something funky has to be going on if a gyro isn’t helping. I heard you mention 2:53 thrust differential, that could be a culprit.
A nice review thus far guys. It's a gorgeous bird. I've seen you fly tail draggers, ie: warbirds/timber's etc. Any chance the differential thrust was causing the plane to over react to inputs on takeoff/landings?? - I'm guessing you gave the surfaces as much authority as possible. Good stuff TBRC. AirHammer out??
100% is as much as the servos can travel. They have some kind of chip inside that prevents travel beyond 100%. The differential thrust might be the issue but it's squirrelly feeling the moment the tail begins to fly - so it's probably not the thrust at all.
Just a couple of flawed items: The left engine has about 2-3 degrees more down-thrust than the right. A couple 5/64" washers on the lower part of the left motor mount raises its thrust line to match the right. Would like to just shut off the differential engine/rudder feature. Giving full rudder on takeoff just results in a ground loop. Otherwise, a very good effort by E-flite!
Did you guys look at amp draw at full throttle? I can’t seem to find any other twins I like more and I’m going to pull the trigger on this one. But if it’s not maxing out the esc I might go up on prop size a bit
Which one would you recommend between this one and the new Cirrus 1.5? I still have the first version of the Cirrus 1.5. Would getting the new Cirrus be better than this Beechcraft in my situation?
what is the best beginner EDF fighter jet. I never had an rc plane before but i have played a lot of fighter jet games on console i know the basics and i've watched a lot of videos maybe 50 or more
We highly recommend the Rafale 64mm as a good starting point into jets. Watch our vid and see: ua-cam.com/video/LaMSkLnVjIw/v-deo.html Links are in the description if you decide you'd like to buy it and support what we do at no additional charge to yourself.
I’ve been eying this plane for a bit. I really wanted the ec1500 but they discontinued it and I wanted the twin otter but they’ve been back ordered for a year. How fast does this thing go? Nothing needs more power but I always enjoy adding it 😅
Dear friend, today i finished one of these planes but surprisingly it has problems whit noisy servos. I am disappointed never espect issues whit this brand
The wheels are hard foam without any grip on pavement, so they slide around easily. Differential thrust being active by default along with it being a taildragger makes it difficult to handle. Our newest vid on the plane features upgraded DuBro low bounce treaded rubber wheels, and they make a massive difference in ground handling: ua-cam.com/video/5DEbDZTJids/v-deo.html
what happened to all the comments? 68 comments? I installed the Dur-Bro tires you recommend. Just dropped by to see if you guys had any more input on the wheel replacements..
Not sure what you're referring to here. The comments are still there. We've flown the model recently with Du-Bro wheels and it made a huge difference on ground tracking. We'll re-shoot it again in the future.
$200 is the price point of models that are significantly smaller and built at a quality level that's like 25% of what this model is built to. Your expectations are a bit off.
I had very little issue with ground handling. Only took two trys to get it right. If you disconnect the servo arm on elevator, it's much easier to attach. No third arm needed. HH hit it out of the park with this one!
Perfecting a good landing is super rewarding and is well worth investing the time needed to get consistantly stable smooth landings...its one of my favorite things to do in fixed wing rc aircraft
Totally agree!
What a classy plane.. Great video boys.. Solid review. - Will
Love this plane in a model. Can't wait to get one.
Jon we got some extra throw out of the rudder mechanically without going too far out on the servo arm if you want to check out our review...we show how to do it. It makes keeping the tail in check on takeoff easier. (and for you probably more wild acro! lol) Also getting the elevator clevis on is easy if you first take the arm off the servo and slide the push rod back to clear the slot. Nice review buddy. This is my kind of plane...love it!
Ended up moving it to the next hole out and changing out the wheels to DuBro low bounce 2.5" wheels - hopefully that'll help tame it down. Also changed out the doodoo-tier tailwheel for a much better rubber one that's a little thicker.
@@TwoBrosRC Yeah man I used a Du Bro 1" heavy rubber tail wheel...really helps "grab". The stock one is useless...
@@TwoBrosRC Hello guys, I ordered DuBro 2.75" as the OEM tires measured 2.8". My question is how did you change them out with out damaging the landing gear?
@@ralphfrasier2079 You use a sharp edged screwdriver or awl of some kind and insert it into the plastic gear strut at the seam, then slowly peel them apart. After that you remove the wheel, replace it, and toss the wheel back on again and glue the halves back together.
After mechanical trim to the elevator, my d18 lands great.
Ours needed a decent bit of down trim on flap deployment.
Beautiful final landing my man very well done 🎉🎉🎉🎉😍
that thing looks SWEET!!!
It do!
Amazing looking Bird, and as always, awesome flying 🤙🏼
Love my d18. I want to see how you tricked your out though!
Increasing the tail wheel 2 sizes larger help stabilize the take off roll outs much better i get my tail up asap to maintain a straight line down the runway. Another good reason to up size your tail wheel is that it gets the wing angle more level and makes it less likely to hop and bounce down the runway.
That's only if you're doing 3 point takeoffs.
The outro with some old school sears shopping jazz playing
Appears to be able to have reverse thrust. Propeller brake on going slow, avian esc. Probably uses the dual 40a avian esc.
I've not looked at this plane. $400+ is a bit much for a 1.5, like HH upping their price on the eflite extra 300 to $400 is insane for what little 1 gets. Imo
Dual motor 1.5m with retracts. This isn't a bad price at all.
Nice flight Brody . Very scale fun flyer plane . 🗣️💯💪
Nice vid Jon! I don't go for e-flite anymore. proud price and still require modifications. you really nailed those landings in the end!
They're really not that expensive here in the US. If you fly Spektrum, it's a good deal to go BnF. Thanks!
@@TwoBrosRC
$30 more for a $100 safe rx. (Even if u don't use it🤷♂️)
@@TwoBrosRC now you got me confused. you mention yourself in the video the high price... compared to a 1.5m BushMule $200 or a 1.7m KingTwin $240 which require no modifications I cannot see how this plane is a "good deal" for anyone. It's a nice plane yes but wears a proud price tag. Is it worth the extra $200? up to everybody individually to make that call. I'd rather buy a nice Freewing 90mm jet for the same money :)
@@stuweFPV Pretty sure there's no 90mm FW jets for $449. That's 80mm PnP territory, not BnF.
@@TwoBrosRC I just don't understand why you mention the high price on the vid 3 times and now suddenly you try to sell it as a good deal...
Great slow mo. 1:36 15:50 shows the differential thrust is late and out of sync, causing the yaw instability. One again, just bcs its possible doesn’t mean we have to do it. I’ll bet its solid on takeoff without the robot on the throttles, especially with the H tail activated by the twin motors.
The manual called for trimming the throttle up to right before the motors activate to get the most out of the differential thrust that's active by default. It's been reset to normal trim. That should help.
I hope you plan to push the envelope in future vids. I’m envisioning wicked flat spins with more differential thrust (My EC-1500 would really wrap up with one at WOT and the other at idle)…….But with the Twin Beech you can put one in reverse and one in forward thrust! Imagine the fun!
That's generally how we do things. But you can't put one in reverse with the other spinning normal unfortunately.
@@TwoBrosRC you can if you swap ESCs that have a separate wire for reverse, plugged into different channels.
Ground handling rudder gyro?
Maybe turn it on with the flap switch?
The AS3X system is always on, so that's probably not the issue here.
@@TwoBrosRC
Thats weird, I’ve never seen that kind of ground looping craziness with a yaw axis gyro. Except on a UMX. Are the wheels/tires binding on the struts, maybe? Something funky has to be going on if a gyro isn’t helping. I heard you mention 2:53 thrust differential, that could be a culprit.
IF the EC1500 & twotter (twin otter) had an offspring.
A nice review thus far guys. It's a gorgeous bird. I've seen you fly tail draggers, ie: warbirds/timber's etc. Any chance the differential thrust was causing the plane to over react to inputs on takeoff/landings?? - I'm guessing you gave the surfaces as much authority as possible.
Good stuff TBRC.
AirHammer out??
100% is as much as the servos can travel. They have some kind of chip inside that prevents travel beyond 100%. The differential thrust might be the issue but it's squirrelly feeling the moment the tail begins to fly - so it's probably not the thrust at all.
Just a couple of flawed items: The left engine has about 2-3 degrees more down-thrust than the right. A couple 5/64" washers on the lower part of the left motor mount raises its thrust line to match the right. Would like to just shut off the differential engine/rudder feature. Giving full rudder on takeoff just results in a ground loop. Otherwise, a very good effort by E-flite!
You can adjust the differential thrust using your transmitter.
Did you guys look at amp draw at full throttle? I can’t seem to find any other twins I like more and I’m going to pull the trigger on this one. But if it’s not maxing out the esc I might go up on prop size a bit
Nah, that's something we didn't check.
Which one would you recommend between this one and the new Cirrus 1.5? I still have the first version of the Cirrus 1.5. Would getting the new Cirrus be better than this Beechcraft in my situation?
The Cirrus is certainly easier to take off and land.
what is the best beginner EDF fighter jet. I never had an rc plane before but i have played a lot of fighter jet games on console i know the basics and i've watched a lot of videos maybe 50 or more
We highly recommend the Rafale 64mm as a good starting point into jets. Watch our vid and see: ua-cam.com/video/LaMSkLnVjIw/v-deo.html
Links are in the description if you decide you'd like to buy it and support what we do at no additional charge to yourself.
Love your channel! But the guy in the green shirt looks like my dad in pictures from the 1970’s! Time traveler?
The guy in the green shirt is Jon, AKA me. I didn't exist before 1984, but who knows.
@@TwoBrosRC Dad, your secret is safe with me! 😉
How do you run two batteries in the plane at once?
Use a parallel EC3 adapter.
Think this plane can handle a significant power increase? What motor/prop/esc setup would you go with?
Lol it's overpowered significantly in stock form. Most of the flying here was at quarter to half throttle.
I’ve been eying this plane for a bit. I really wanted the ec1500 but they discontinued it and I wanted the twin otter but they’ve been back ordered for a year. How fast does this thing go? Nothing needs more power but I always enjoy adding it 😅
@@ronnymiller7395 It's easily a 90+ MPH model, probably 110 at full speed with a dive.
Dear friend, today i finished one of these planes but surprisingly it has problems whit noisy servos. I am disappointed never espect issues whit this brand
Sorry to hear that.
I don’t believe the Beech 18 was designed with harriers in mind Jon
Cool, we'll do more of them then!
I see …..will you be doing Cobra’s with it too?
@@rolandtheheadlessthompsong4346 Props don't do cobra maneuvers. It'd be a wall if anything.
What makes the ground handling so annoying? and do you think this is worth getting without access to a paved runway?
The wheels are hard foam without any grip on pavement, so they slide around easily. Differential thrust being active by default along with it being a taildragger makes it difficult to handle. Our newest vid on the plane features upgraded DuBro low bounce treaded rubber wheels, and they make a massive difference in ground handling: ua-cam.com/video/5DEbDZTJids/v-deo.html
@@TwoBrosRC thanks!
She will fly really slow!
I love the look of the plane but I know as a rookie that's new to flight it wouldn't be a good plane for me for a very long time.
what happened to all the comments? 68 comments? I installed the Dur-Bro tires you recommend. Just dropped by to see if you guys had any more input on the wheel replacements..
Not sure what you're referring to here. The comments are still there. We've flown the model recently with Du-Bro wheels and it made a huge difference on ground tracking. We'll re-shoot it again in the future.
Great video! What tires did you upgrade to? And if they were heavier, did they require a change to elevator/flap mix?
@@daayoungs4326 It should be 2.75" low bounce wheels. No noticeable changes in flight characteristics were observed.
@@TwoBrosRC awesome thanks for the info. Just did the maiden on mine and it was bouncy. My T-6 was the same until I got better wheels
@@daayoungs4326 Du-Bro 275T 2-3/4" Diameter Treaded Surface Wheel (2-Pack). I noticed no change in CG.
Maybe this hard steering is due to differential thrust ?!?!?!
Probably not - if anything that should help make it easier.
@@TwoBrosRC it’s hard to steer because you got too much throws ??
Id almost consider for 200 but I could never do 400+!!
$200 is the price point of models that are significantly smaller and built at a quality level that's like 25% of what this model is built to. Your expectations are a bit off.
@@TwoBrosRC Maybe but I cant justify almost half a grand for a foam plane that can be gone in an instant. I also like to build.