Regarding fuel capacity...on a trip across Wyoming on a Concours 14, I ran out of gas just before the gas station. When I filled it, all I could put in was 5.2 gallons. The capacity is supposed to be 5.8 gallons. Never assume that the manufacturers capacity is available.
Perfect way to start a day when one is isolated but outside is a great day to spend on two wheels :-( .....watch Scott on two wheels and enjoy motorcycling vicariously ..
Was looking forward to this , not disappointed. A gentle suggestion , I know your focussed on bike review but if you could add a bit of the personal i.e where your headed , maybe introduce your friend and tell us about the places your biking at. I mean its always nice to see the Big Guy interrupt your videos :) Regards
Hi Scott, enjoy your reviews, and would agree that this class of bike is definitely the way to go. I currently own a Suzuki V Strom 1000 and a Ducati Scrambler 1100, enjoying both bikes, that’s until the virus came along. After watching your review and reading some of the comments, especially on Ducati, I feel I have to say that this is not the case with our local Ducati Dealer. I live in Northern Ireland, we only have the one dealer, so not mentioning any names, must say I can’t fault them. Suzuki dealer as well, same applies, that’s why I keep going back. Test rides, no problem, service, no problem, warranty, no problem, an all round bunch of good guys, as you say, 2 thumbs up👍👍. It is sad to hear of other dealers taking the attitude mentioned in review comments, totally unacceptable, and customers are quite right to walk away. Your reviews are excellent, and I’m looking forward to see how BMW 900xr fares long term and how it copes pillion wise, V Strom is coming 3 years old now. It might be a new V Strom again but the XR looks mighty tempting. Keep up the good work. Good job Scott👍
Thank you for the different reviews of the F900XR, i had my bike Driving licence last month (at 55 years old) I was going for a Honda 650 R and after all your videos I changed my mind and I am a happy owner of a BMW F900XR (I bought it without drive test, its not easy to find a A2 F900XR for drive testing). For the time being I am not fully comfortable with the bike I find it a little bit heavy in very slow driving, but I am confident I will get used to it after few weeks of driving. Again, thanks for your reviews keep on the good work look forward to your coming videos Greetings from south of France. Happy new year to all bikers. Regards
Couple years behind you, but it was between the 750gs and the 900xr. I'm never gonna do off road, not that the 750 is the best bike for that, but being a street dweller, and having the Autobahn, and some of the best twisties at my disposal, I'm getting the 900xr. Gonna go get it this coming week, and looking forward to many trips with it.
Love your videos Mate. super low key, no ego.... just great to the point, facts. thank you! BTW, I have a S1000XR (touring), a R1250R (daily rider) and a V4S (track) Did a big bike refresh over the last 18 months :-) Your video really helped me make a decision on the R1250R... love it
Here in Oz we're in lockdown so seeing you ride through the countryside Scott was truly great therapy!!!!🤪👍🏻 As to your "experience" with Ducati, this seems to be a common theme worldwide! Same here in Australia. Lack of customer care, inept service & is it just complacency???... A good mate of mine has ridden Ducati's for the last 20 years & he's constantly experienced issues such as I've described. Anyway a great review again & you're making it easier to decide this "should" be my next bike. Having said that, I'll now throw a spanner in the works. As I'm fortunate enough to have a varied stable of bikes to utilise for touring/trips, I have put a deposit on the new R18!!!😱 I absolutely love it! Not exactly made for canyon carving but mate it looks bloody awesome. A case of the heart telling the head to shut up!!!🤣 Stay safe & if possible keep these therapy sessions coming!!!🤪🤪🤪🤪👍🏻
Thank you Andrew. That is exactly why I did this day ride, to give the guys that can't ride something to watch. Even though I've personally received some criticism for doing a ride like this, and filming it, at this time. It is still legal in my state that I live in here in Germany, so I did it, it's that simple, but I still get the "naysayer" or "chicken little" that say that I should not be doing this, it's a bad example...bla bla bla. But the rules keep getting tighter and tighter, so by next week we'll probably be on total lock-down too. We shall see, I'm keepin' a positive out-look, we will get through this, we just have to wait 😒
NothingToProve Yeah damn em Scott! I have a “brother” & his/MY family in Olching outside Munich. So I know how it for them too! Keep your helmet on & no one will know!😎🤫😂
I have been enamored with the Tracer 900GT for quite a while now. Almost bought one last summer. I did not buy because I didn't have room in my garage for another bike. Well that and I am supposed to be saving for my retirement. Personally I am not too concerned that the Yamaha is older tech than the Beemer I have bikes with tech and bikes with no tech I love them all that is not a show stopper for me. I don'r ride on the edge enough to really notice the difference in chassis design. To a degree I like bikes a little rough around the edges anyways. I don't carry a pillion so I am not worried about the load carrying capacity. Having said all of that Scott, your videos and others I have watched and articles I have read are leading me to believe that the F900XR is the real deal. Not only that, IMO it is the best looking bike in the segment, by a long shot. I am sure it is a sharper handler than the Yamaha even if it is a little down on top end power. I have subsequently rearranged my garage and can now easily fit another bike in there. I have thrown the Beemer on the short list with the Yamaha.
Good fun!!! Just really liking you getting into the reasons why you wanted that bike over the beast; it makes for a fascinating topic - once you've had a big power machine... how much is too much? Newer bikes now are making insane amounts of power; I have a Speed Triple RS which takes knocks for being "underpowered" even though it makes 150 HP... which to me, is insane power. I enjoy spirited rides and every now and again (when I safely can) letting it rip but it's just TOO much for the road to ride around wide open (by a HUGE margin). Your new bike begs the question - how much power do you really need or want? Your motto is perfect IMHO - "Nothing to Prove". I like the wise mature attitude - been there, done that, now in the 'goldilocks' range - just right.
Hello Mr Warner, thank you very much. I think is important to know for the reselling of the bike ( maybe one day! ) and of course other ladies or gentlemans that, like me, may have problems on reaching with both fits the ground. I was impressed, in positive, for the autonomy range you can achieved with a 15.5 liter tank. Still, many thanks for taking the time to answer me. looking forward to see the next/s video/s on the bike. Tchuss Stelvio
This new GS looks great, also looks like a very balanced package.going to test ride one once the dealers are open again. buy the way, 30 years ago 100 HP motorcycle was impressive and at that time some certain countries wanted to restrict them to that 100 HP limit. My 1989 BMW K100 RS ABS produced 79 HP at the rear wheel. Times have changed.
Probably find 79hp at the wheel is around 100hp at the crank. My dad still goes on about how the Honda cbx750 was an animal. My BMW f800gs makes similar power now and is called boring
Good footage,nice riding and unobtrusive music,well done. I have owned big sports tourers like the Honda VFR1200 and currently the Triumph Sprint GT as I do high klm's on my rides but I did find that on a 800 klm day it does get fatiguing throwing a bike weighing 280 kg plus wet around the corners,I tried the Honda VFR800 Crossrunner but was a little underwhelmed by the lack of torque and it was unnecessarily heavy for a 800 cc.I test rode the BMW1000 XR but found it buzzy and busy for a serious tourer though it was very quick.I enjoyed the review on your bike and hopefully will get to test ride one soon.
Thanks for your view comes in handy as the tracer 900 is in my short list, which is all over the place right now. Luckily I don’t need to make a decision fast.. I also like your take on the multistrada, some of the dealers think that they around the only one around, I am sure that the company, in this case ducati, will not like the approach of the dealership. Be safe
I'd like to see a demo of the anti-dive front suspension during hard braking, a water glass demo of vibration at idle and at speed, I like to hear your comments on center of gravity of of the bike and comments on the warranty. I think you made a great decision.
I am a big fan of the Kawa versus 650. This XR seems to have the same attributes in more intense numbers. That is, more power, more payload, more suspension travel, more electronics. Seems very impressive. My question is how would this bike perform as a mild off roader, given its suspension travel, not withstanding the wheel size, and giving it 70/30 tyres. Thanks for your, always, detailed studies.
Hmm...I would not take this off-road. Light trail (very light) should not be a problem. As you can pretty much take any bike down gravel/improvised roads/trails but as soon as you say off-road then not really, I mean you can, I've taken my 1290SDR off-road and even got it stuck...that was not fun...but the bike is not made to do it.
@@NothingToProve I appreciate it is not ideal, but it is designed as a crossover type bike as described by BMW, as is the versys 650. Better than most road bikes in that regard, but yes one could choose one of the new triumph 900 models, they being more versatile for off-road. But for on road the XR seems greatly versatile and fun, with looks to match. Enjoy!
Really good looking bike and no other company beats the BMW TFT. Of course if you want to tour on the cheap get an NC750X DCT which will sip fuel compared to your BMW, but old design, only 54HP, very basic display and no electronics, but smooth shifting.
@NothingToProve Great video! I also agree Tracer 900 GT needs a big update to catch up with F900XR, especially on technology and align its design with Tracer 700, etc. Grateful if you can do a review on 2020 Kawasaki Ninja 1000SX in the future (after the lockdown obviously) because if can’t wait for Yamaha’s update, I am considering to get either F900XR or Ninja 1000SX. Kindly advise if the Ninja’s nearly 240kg curb weight will be an issue just like you mentioned other “big dogs” have or its high torque output in relatively low rev can “overcome” its weight problem. Cheers and stay safe!
Good to see you're well Scott and still able to enjoy riding your new moto. Won't be long till she's broken in. I would love to hear your opinion on how your bike compares to the new V-Strom 1050 and the Ninja 1000 SX. Thanks!
Agree with your thoughts on the bike. I have a F700GS and owned a R1200GSLC. Those bikes handle well for fast 8 hour days but I really wanted a 17inch wheel machine (faster steering, better feel), that was also easy to ride as my other BMWs and as comfy. Took a test ride on the F900XR and BMW has absolutely nailed it as an easy bike to ride fast ALL DAY....except for the seat..- way too hard. I see you are upgrading to the comfort seat....I would be interested in your review of that. Some people go for the Wunderlich - maybe a price thing?
That is very good fuel economy. I'm sure it would drop with the luggage attached, but that's very good to know. I could squeeze 43 mpg out of my 2015 1200GS, and that was riding mostly at highway speeds.
Great discussion of the f900xr. I think this would be a great addition to my s1000r, for when I want to ride 2 up or maybe spend a bit more time away from home.
Good video. Very good information. Seems you got a nice deal for the bike. What you think about the fit and finish of the bike? Is it as good as the more expensive GS? Or do you notice that it is a cheaper bike?
Thank you Yuri, Yes, the fit/finish/quality is the same as the bigger GS, that was one of the reasons I purchased the bike, because you get a lot of value for a lot less money, as compared to the GS.
looking at the Multi 950 on ducati.com, it seems to have similar specs but costs considerably more. it is a bigger looking bike with 10-15% more power but the internet price is 4-5 grand more. if money was not a consideration, i would choose the ducati only based on reading about it. the true test is to ride them both for a while. they both look good to me and I would be happy to have either. when i do get a new bike, this class of bike is what I would probably look for. i would not trade in my 690 Duke as that will always be my ride around town and abuse bike cause it is so fun. i just would like a more comfortable bike for long all day/weekend trips that does not suck to ride on a busy interstate. like the NTP guy, I am getting old (50) where comfort is becoming a top consideration.
What about the new Ninja 1000 SX? That's also in that sport-touring segment..would be great if you did a review of the Kawa, comparing it with this XR. Thx for the great review.
Loads of reviews on the z1000sx unbelievable value but the xr has a much higher ride height and longer travel suspension and wide raised up handle bars.
I just purchased a 2021 900XR TE. Whilst i like it, i was initially contemplating an 1200/50GS. But thought it would be to big for me. Aftwr getting used to a bigger bike in the (900XR) im seriously considering going trading it in for a GS 1250. Purely because of the 2 up capabilities over the 900XR.
Loved the scenery Scott, this is a perfect road for your twin bike, the sound is just great, loved it. When i saw the bike for the first time it disappointed me, but after your reviews i change my mind. Maybe in the future i will look for a new exhaust, well this is just me. Congratulations,
Thank you for this informative review. By the way, the fuel consumption is surprisingly low! I did a test ride with the F900XR some days ago and must agree that it makes a lot of fun especially due to the agile chassis. It is worth to buy the quick shifter option. The blipper works even better than the upshifting function. For upshifting you need higher revs and open throttle. Really annoyed I was about the uncomfortable seat. Already after a few minutes I realized this edge that "bites" into the thigh as well the sharp step from driver to pillion seat. You don't have to drive long distances to realize it as something annoying. My question is, if the shape of your comfort seat fits better? Further the finding of neutral attracted negative attention, because at traffic lights I regularly stepped into second gear. Is this something common or maybe serial dispersion? The Yamaha Tracer 900 (GT) design is in my opinion not really outmoded but more in regard to technical details like the small TFT screen, the unavailable cornering ABS and dynamic traction control. The rest is still competitive to its rivals, especially thanks to the superb engine, that I am driving for years in my MT-09. Please go ahead with your entertaining F900XR reports!
Yes it is low, especially the way I was riding it for that entire take of gas, let's just say it was not slow. If I was riding a Tracer900 that way, it'd be much worse, BUT then that's why it has a bigger gas tank, it has to have a bigger tank to get the same range. Yes, when I get the comfort seat and side cases and engine spoiler, I'll make a video about how they work, look, feel...etc. But will have to wait a bit for the virus to calm down. Ride safe, Scott
excellent review videos Scott, I enjoy watching them a lot. It would be great if you add some diversity to your videos like a riding day with friends and interacting with people. Thanks for the great job. ride safe
Great review as always! Was it a comfort seat you had mentioned in previous video? Have you already received it? I tried F900XR with a standard seat and it was not comfortable at all. Ride safe!
Hi, The answer is GS has a shaft and it's a biggest advantage between these two bikes especially when it comes to travel a long distances! Also, suspension is much smoother on GS due to a heavier weight. What do you think about it? I'd appriciate your answer! Thank you,
I think you should have given the 900 GT Pro a go. It’s more of a road focused bike and that’s what you have gone with. Can’t knock the BMW 3 year warranty though :)
Great video & presentation. Honest review & good bit of humour. Enjoy the ride, stay safe & please show us more of beautiful Germany! Where are you based roughly? The F900XR is a great bike from BMW. New, fresh & nicely presented. Having seen your previous videos of when you first picked it up, because of the sunlight face on the side of the bike, I thought the side panels were black & it looked great. I actually thought that was an optional extra you ordered! Then the side or front shot of the bike showed them to be grey. Keep up your content & appreciate your honesty! 💯👍
NothingToProve Thanks Scott! Congratulations on your new bike! Looks great & you are a true gentleman! I’ve never visited that part of Germany, mainly south. Take care & safe but more importantly, enjoy life!
nice video as usual, for me what i would like to see in more detail is a small trip done with the turn by turn navigation,what does it show on the highway when 4 lanes are divided by 2 to the left and 2 to the right, with a tom tom you see the map clearly what is going on but what about wit the arrows, maybe a stupid question but is it clear? can you really use it or is it a gimmick and are you just going to use a phone on a mount or a tom tom in the end? what about the keyless ignition; do you think its worth it and is it any safe in your opinion?really liking your calm tone and way of making those videos, nice change from all those other pumped up and hyper luny tunes ;-)
Hey! Because of you I started to consider buying this bike. I can't find any reviews from passenger point of view. Can you take passenger for a ride and ask for her/his experience? I wonder if it is possible to enjoy touring with this bike as a couple or is it more like solo-mode bike. Thanks for all videos you make!
Hi Scott! Congrats for your channel. It is one of the most interesting, if not the most, in terms of analysing real pros & cons of a bike. I am considering now buying an R1250RS. I watched both reviews you did about this bike and I found them really really good. I found specially interesting when you explained the nitpickings you found in the second review. Thank for both reviews. I would like to give me your opinion about its sport and touring balance. Maybe is a bit more heavy than the XR but.., is still agile enough to make an “spirited fast paced ride”? How you would you consider it? 50% 50%? Or.., I don’t know... By the way, one of the things I love more in my actual bike (an F800S that I own since 14 years ago) is the belt..., since this experience I see chain as an anachronism..., but maybe in this time they have improved chains enough not to make a “daily” maintenance, I don’t know... Anyway, thanks for your advises. Keep this high level, please. Cheers from Barcelona! ✌🏼✌🏼
Good review so far just one thing you could look at is riding with a pillion the bike looks a little short on videos but ticks ever other box. Sadly can't test ride bike in UK on lockdown. Can't even ride my own bike police asking where you're going .stay safe.
I also just traded in a Superduke R--but for a Superduke GT. I'm thinking the GT is about between the SDR and this f900xr. Have you ridden at SD GT? Wanted short tour with pillion and INCLUDED side bags capability but can't completely give up that 1290 KTM torquer motor--which some say the GT is sweeter more mellow-- if it needs to be--than the SDR. What do you think? Thanks.
I've ridden the F900 XR low version, (6'1") Cramped! but I really want to ride the Tiger 900 before deciding. You've ridden both and you purchased the BMW so that speaks well of the BMW. What was your deciding factor to go with the BMW over the Triumph?
TFT simplicity. Looks. On the road, the XR will out handle the Tiger without even trying. But that is because the Tiger is an adventure bike and the XR is a sport/tour bike. That's really what it came down to, road vs. off-road.
Both really, I mean the Rally has the extra suspension travel so it's higher but the GT drags pegs sooner than the Rally and the GT is for the road! So I don't get that. But I like the Rally better than the GT but the Rally is more for off-road and you can't get the electronic rear suspension on the Rally, only on the GT. As usual Triumph makes it complicated. So I passed on them both. I mean i like them but for an all rounder the XR just makes better sense.
Hi Scott,I own a 2017 BMW R1200GS (and happy with it ) and I am considering a downsize......age you know. My most important doubt is the passengers comfort on the XR900 because 90% of my rides are in duo. Are you considering a review with passender comments? Great channel !
Thank you William, No, I'm not considering this kind of video simply because my wife just got her Honda Monkey and she is going for her licence now so she can ride it next to me on the XR. So no two-up on the XR now 😢
I am thining about buying an f900xr, what do you think of the quickshifter. When i test rode it, it felt kind of clunky and not as smooth as other quickshifters. How does the comfort seat feel, the basic one is to hard for my taste. Overal great reviews, i subbed.
Yes, the QS is clunkly, on all BMW's the QS is that way unless it's the S1000RR/R/XR then it's great. Don't know about the comfort seat yet, still waiting for the plant in Berlin to get back up to speed...and yes the basic one IS too hard for me too. 😁 Ride safe, Scott
Yes, it's worse than the GS. The GS is much bigger in the front and every where else, so it will naturally have more protection. But for it's size, the wind protection is good.
Great video as ever Scott. Seriously tempted by a new 900 XR but can buy a 6 month old S1000XR here in the UK for the same money......what to do? Stay safe 👍
The s1000xr will be a lot more to insure almost 3x as much for me. and get awful mpg. And around town it's really hard to modulate the throttle. That bike really wants to go. Seen some really nice ones for £7,995 and I always wanted a s1000xr.
I am thinking that the R 1250 RS might be more of what I am looking for and might be better for 2 up riding than this 900 XR? I am a bigger guy. Also I am seeing 2018 s 1000 XRs here in the state prices drop since the 2020 model came out. under 11k USD for a 1000XR with low miles sounds like a deal to me also over this 900 XR new. Put it in rain mode for easier going when sight seeing?
Great review, I have this bike on loan from my local dealership in white and sliver, your red and black looks great, how do you find the comfort seat compared to the standard seat? Thanks
Thank you. I don't have the comfort seat yet because the BMW plant in Berlin is shut-down 😒 But when I get the comfort seat, side hard cases & engine spoiler, I'll make a video about them.
Please give us some thoughts on the front un-adjustable suspension on worse roads than the lovely smooth roads you seem to have there in Germany. I had a TDM 900 for years and loved it. So for obvious resons im thinking of buying 900XR but the front suspension is my concern.
Hi Bud, (the wiser) Oh, there were plenty of "bad" roads that we rode that day, they just didn't make it into the video (I wasn't talking or what I was saying didn't apply or there just was not enough time to put it into the video). Nice name BTW, 🤣 Ride safe, Scott
Hi Scott I hope you can get your hands on a Ducati 950s id love to know your thoughts in comparison to your f900xr... as usual very detailed and clear review with the experience... more power...
Cheers Scott - I'm actually looking at a downsize too (from a Caponord Rally 1200 - 130hp) and this is in the radar. I owned a 700GS and found the engine a bit boring. How about this one? And would you say the screen is good or maybe for travels you might consider a higher one? ride safe and take care
Hello, The engine is the best parallel twin I've ridden in the middleweights...except for the MT-07 is a little better sound...so BMW changed the firing order and changed the crank shaft to give it more character (just like Yamaha, Honda, KTM...etc.) and in turn it has more torque lower in the rev-range. I noticed with the past 700-750-800-850 BMW's they were lacking in this area, this one is much better and I can actually leave the bike in a higher gear and not have to down shift and just twist the throttle and "lug" my way out of a corner. In other words I can be lazy and not shift if I don't want too 😁 The wind screen is good and for weekend/week long trips it's just fine. Only buffeting is on highway with a cross wind (or passing big trucks). If I were to do longer trips than that, I think I'd look for an after market bigger screen but for now this is enough for me. Ride safe, Scott
First time to see your videos, nice job. Very thorough, I liked that. I've been riding Beemers (1150 GS & 1200 LT) for many years. How is the chain maintenance on this bike ? I haven't had one in sooo long, since my Triumph & Bultaco days.
Hey Scott, Just recently discovered your channel and enjoying your reviews. Off the wall question - my wife LOVES your riding jeans, can you tell me (her) what brand/model you are sporting in your videos?
Great review as usual, are you still aloud to go out for pleasure rides in Germany we’re not aloud to in the uk I want to test ride this bike wants were out of lockdown
Thank you David. It depends on the State here in Germany. Currently the State that I'm in has a restriction of only two bikes together, no more. But that will probably change soon cause there are too many ignoring that rule...the few always ruin it for every one else.
Yes, off-road, true but the reason that I didn't go with the 850GS is it's weight and looks. It weights almost as much as a 1250GS (not GSA) so if I were to consider getting an 850GS I'd just go with the 1250GS. That's just mho 👍😁 BUT I have done all day at an off-road park on an 850GS and it was great! I does better than the 1250GS/GSA in off-road! But not as good as the 1250 on-road. Ride safe, Scott
Very well done videos--great scenery, editing, and content. Can you explain what you mean by "twitchy"? Throttle response, handling? I test-rode a 900xr last week and found quite a bit of vibration above 6000 rpm. Does that bother you, or do you keep it under 6000 rpm where it's super smooth? What are you using for helmet speakers that allows you to hear your phone guidance and phone calls in your helmet? Thanks for taking the time to help me determine if this is the bike for me.
Thank you Michael, Yes, the vibs are there above 6k, only feel it on the autobahn above 160 ish kph so don't do that much so don't care (I usually do around 130-140). The helmet is a Schuberth R2 with the SC1 communication system in it...which is the basic Sena10 that you can buy and add to any helmet. So what I have to do is connect the phone (BMW Motorrad Connect app) and helmet to the bike in the "connection settings" and then when I turn on the bike it will see my phone and helmet automatically when ever I turn on the bike. Ride safe, Scott
Oh, and "twitchy" was when I was referring to the the turn in of a bike. It's a term that one usually uses for sport/naked bikes, in that they are so easy or take very little input to initiate a turn into a corner/curve. And that is why I was careful when I said "this is almost twitchy" because it took very little input into the handle bar to initiate a turn in, close to a naked bike level and less input for a sport/touring level bike. That can be a good thing or a bad thing depending on how you want to ride. I happen to like it since my previous bike was the 1290 Super Duke R, which was very twitchy, so I was used to putting very little input into the handle bar to initiate a turn in. But for sport/touring bikes, you want to be more comfortable and don't always want to be "careful" when droning out the miles on a bike, so I think that BMW hit a "sweet spot" here with this in that it's not too much twitchyness but enough to ride sporty when you want to and not too much so you can be comfortable & relaxed.
@@NothingToProve Thanks for taking the time to answer. After your responses, it seems this bike suits me well, except for the look of the gas tank area in profile. But, as you said, you don't necessarily choose a bike for its looks (KTM). BTW, I may consider moving to Germany after seeing your videos.
Hi Scott, I wondered if you could give some pillion feedback/details. Leaning towards the F900XR over the Tracer 900GT but the pillion comfort worries me. Will take a test ride with pillion but appreciate your opinion. Thanks. Rob.
Hey Scott! Glad to see you're enjoying the 900xr. Sorry to hear your experience with Ducati. Seems like the same issue here in Canada! A couple of guys I've spoke to at dealerships, left me with the impression that if I wasn't buying today, they weren't interested. Oh well, that makes it an easy choice to remove from the list. Dealership support is so important, and if I have to ride 400km round trip to get servicing done and deal with that attitude...that's a pass from me. Anyhoo..I would like to know if you e done any 2 up riding on the 900xr yet? If so, how did it handle o those sweet twisties? Cheers
some people complain about the screen handle being on the right side, can't you just not dissasemble it and flip it over to the left side? maybe aftermarket left side arm in the future, it's only a plastic part.
Could you compare the cornering and full day riding comfort to the 2020 R 1250 RS. I am at a point where I am wanting to upgrade to a shaft driven road only motorcycle to take the chain maintenance out of the mix. Thank you!
The XR will out corner the RS without a thought and tour a little better than the RS (because the riding position is more relaxed on the XR, on the RS you are a little leaned forward and foot pegs are a little up and back as compared to the XR (because BMW was going for a more sporty ride and less touring with the RS)). Ride safe, Scott
I heard a throw-away remark from a journalist at the launch of the 900XR in Spain say that BMW had remarked you got 105 ponies (your technical term!) only if you put 98 octane fuel in the bike. It could however be slightly under 100 bhp if you put in the cheap stuff! Any thoughts on the veracity of this?
Thank you Dan, Because I didn't like the other two colors, so it was more of a "which color is acceptable the most" choice. Red is ok, it's better than white or gold, gold looks good at first but then I think it would get old and I had the white XR in my garage for over a week for the "short term review" and it got old too...at least for me. Color is subjective. Ride safe, Scott
NothingToProve Thanks for the explanation! You convinced me to buy the XR but was undecided about color. In Texas, this is a big deal because its Harley country! But the choice is really a no brainer! Harley is not equal to the quality and the price especially a 10 year old bike!! I am still thinking about red! Best regards, Dan
Question: how is the moto for slow speed (15-25mph) and tight/quick maneuvering and handling? I’m using motos for pacing and officiating bicycle races and the size of the new F900XR is looking very interesting.
Thank you Gary, I've done some time on the autobahn with this and it does just fine. Although I got some buffeting when there was a cross-wind or passing a big truck. But I guess that is to be expected unless you are on a full size touring bike.
I have a friend who has a 1200 gs and every time we ride together is hard for me to keep up with him, those gs are fast and with that quick shifter, but he is much more experienced than me
Very well. I talk about it in the video 😁 Both are not just good bikes but great bikes and it really comes down to what you want, either bike will make you very happy for a long time. Ride safe, Scott
Yea, did a review of that when it came out. It's a good bike but ruled it out cause of it's size and weight and the motor is more responsive on the 900XR & Tiger900.
Have u tried it two-up? What do you think, does it have enough power for tow-up? And are u thinking about changing exhaust, maybe to reduce weight and better sound? thx
No, not yet and with the current virus things going on...probably won't for a while. Sure, it's got enough power for two-up, no problem. No, I actually like the quiet exhaust note, coming from the KTM1290SDR, it's a welcome change :)
NothingToProve I totally agree. For long rides, a quieter exhaust would be more welcome. Plus the stock F900XR exhaust sounds good already. Just my humble opinion
Great video, great job again!!!. I learnt with them all, always!!!. What about the new Kawasaky Ninja 1000 SX?, perhaps it´s a more sporty bike. Cheers from Spain!!!
Thank you. Yes the SX has more power but it is heavier so the power & performance gains might not be so great once you add in the weight. I was just tired of middleweight sport/touring bikes that weight more than 230kg and this is at 235kg. I mean the 1290GT was already pushing it for me at 228kg and that has a lot more power than the SX but it is way more expensive.
Great videos - thank you! I know your bike is new and you'll probably get to it in future, but I'm interested to know how this bike performs with a pillion passenger and some luggage?
The 850GS is for off-road too, and I will not do any off-road with this bike, so I don't need it. Plus I like this motor a lot better than the 850, even though they come from the same family of motors.
Sure, it's great for everyone, it really is that easy to ride. That is one of the reasons I made it my "daily ride". I don't have to think when I ride it. I just enjoy being out in the environment. And I think that is the point that BMW wanted to make when they made this. Forget about the bike and enjoy the ride.
Hey Scott I told you my decision was the F 900 R Or the 890 Duke Super scalpel but after this review I am thinking the BMW might be the best choice still haven’t gotten a review on the 890 however KTM did put out a short release video on it. So keep the reviews coming on your BMW it’s sounding better all the time I know you’ll come up with some more challenges for it. Personally I love the naked version better. I know you have the electronica suspension on yours maybe it’s possible that you could let us know how well that works on different road services and cornering thanks again for a great review I ask you before about your helmet I believe it’s a German manufactured helmet if you could give me more information on that I would like to look it up thanks again Scott you’re very thorough.
Ducati - Testing and buying motorcycles is pure joy compared to buying cars. Every dealership is fantastic and can't do enough to get you out testing their bikes .... except for Ducati. Without doubt the worst experience I had. Id did finally manage to arrange a ride of the Multistrada and it is worth the premium over Japanese and it looks awesome (especially compared to the BMW sorry). However I disliked the agricultural feel of the twin, but the dealer never got back to me despite promise to do so and chasing up via phone (and no they didn't know I was not impressed with the engine as they were so busy chatting between themselves and another customer and approaching closing time they clearly wanted to go home, so had all the details (me, current bike etc) and assured me they would get back. Sorry, should wait till I finish the video before posting (though 3 separate topics)
I have 3 ducatti places not to far from me. Bristol Bridgewater and Cardiff. All don't seem bothered about selling you a bike and never got back to me either.
Regarding fuel capacity...on a trip across Wyoming on a Concours 14, I ran out of gas just before the gas station. When I filled it, all I could put in was 5.2 gallons. The capacity is supposed to be 5.8 gallons. Never assume that the manufacturers capacity is available.
Perfect way to start a day when one is isolated but outside is a great day to spend on two wheels :-( .....watch Scott on two wheels and enjoy motorcycling vicariously ..
Was looking forward to this , not disappointed. A gentle suggestion , I know your focussed on bike review but if you could add a bit of the personal i.e where your headed , maybe introduce your friend and tell us about the places your biking at. I mean its always nice to see the Big Guy interrupt your videos :)
Regards
When I'm bike buying, I do look at the competition within the segment but generally, you get on a certain bike and you just KNOW.
Excellent thanks Scott. Just got to wait for the dealers to re-open before I can choose between the 900, 1000 or the 1250!
Hi Scott, enjoy your reviews, and would agree that this class of bike is definitely the way to go. I currently own a Suzuki V Strom 1000 and a Ducati Scrambler 1100, enjoying both bikes, that’s until the virus came along. After watching your review and reading some of the comments, especially on Ducati, I feel I have to say that this is not the case with our local Ducati Dealer. I live in Northern Ireland, we only have the one dealer, so not mentioning any names, must say I can’t fault them. Suzuki dealer as well, same applies, that’s why I keep going back. Test rides, no problem, service, no problem, warranty, no problem, an all round bunch of good guys, as you say, 2 thumbs up👍👍. It is sad to hear of other dealers taking the attitude mentioned in review comments, totally unacceptable, and customers are quite right to walk away. Your reviews are excellent, and I’m looking forward to see how BMW 900xr fares long term and how it copes pillion wise, V Strom is coming 3 years old now. It might be a new V Strom again but the XR looks mighty tempting. Keep up the good work. Good job Scott👍
Thank you for the different reviews of the F900XR, i had my bike Driving licence last month (at 55 years old) I was going for a Honda 650 R and after all your videos I changed my mind and I am a happy owner of a BMW F900XR (I bought it without drive test, its not easy to find a A2 F900XR for drive testing). For the time being I am not fully comfortable with the bike I find it a little bit heavy in very slow driving, but I am confident I will get used to it after few weeks of driving.
Again, thanks for your reviews keep on the good work look forward to your coming videos
Greetings from south of France.
Happy new year to all bikers.
Regards
I demoed a 750gs, 1000xr and the 900xr back to back. 900xr instantly more fun and it’s the one I bought. Loved the fit, twin and weight.
Couple years behind you, but it was between the 750gs and the 900xr. I'm never gonna do off road, not that the 750 is the best bike for that, but being a street dweller, and having the Autobahn, and some of the best twisties at my disposal, I'm getting the 900xr. Gonna go get it this coming week, and looking forward to many trips with it.
Really enjoying your real life updates on the XR.Thank you and wishing you good health over this time.JHB-SA
Love your videos Mate. super low key, no ego.... just great to the point, facts. thank you! BTW, I have a S1000XR (touring), a R1250R (daily rider) and a V4S (track) Did a big bike refresh over the last 18 months :-) Your video really helped me make a decision on the R1250R... love it
Here in Oz we're in lockdown so seeing you ride through the countryside Scott was truly great therapy!!!!🤪👍🏻 As to your "experience" with Ducati, this seems to be a common theme worldwide! Same here in Australia. Lack of customer care, inept service & is it just complacency???... A good mate of mine has ridden Ducati's for the last 20 years & he's constantly experienced issues such as I've described. Anyway a great review again & you're making it easier to decide this "should" be my next bike. Having said that, I'll now throw a spanner in the works. As I'm fortunate enough to have a varied stable of bikes to utilise for touring/trips, I have put a deposit on the new R18!!!😱 I absolutely love it! Not exactly made for canyon carving but mate it looks bloody awesome. A case of the heart telling the head to shut up!!!🤣 Stay safe & if possible keep these therapy sessions coming!!!🤪🤪🤪🤪👍🏻
Thank you Andrew.
That is exactly why I did this day ride, to give the guys that can't ride something to watch. Even though I've personally received some criticism for doing a ride like this, and filming it, at this time. It is still legal in my state that I live in here in Germany, so I did it, it's that simple, but I still get the "naysayer" or "chicken little" that say that I should not be doing this, it's a bad example...bla bla bla.
But the rules keep getting tighter and tighter, so by next week we'll probably be on total lock-down too. We shall see, I'm keepin' a positive out-look, we will get through this, we just have to wait 😒
NothingToProve Yeah damn em Scott! I have a “brother” & his/MY family in Olching outside Munich. So I know how it for them too! Keep your helmet on & no one will know!😎🤫😂
I have been enamored with the Tracer 900GT for quite a while now. Almost bought one last summer. I did not buy because I didn't have room in my garage for another bike. Well that and I am supposed to be saving for my retirement.
Personally I am not too concerned that the Yamaha is older tech than the Beemer I have bikes with tech and bikes with no tech I love them all that is not a show stopper for me. I don'r ride on the edge enough to really notice the difference in chassis design. To a degree I like bikes a little rough around the edges anyways. I don't carry a pillion so I am not worried about the load carrying capacity.
Having said all of that Scott, your videos and others I have watched and articles I have read are leading me to believe that the F900XR is the real deal. Not only that, IMO it is the best looking bike in the segment, by a long shot. I am sure it is a sharper handler than the Yamaha even if it is a little down on top end power.
I have subsequently rearranged my garage and can now easily fit another bike in there. I have thrown the Beemer on the short list with the Yamaha.
This BMW bike is what the Yamaha tdm900 should have been.
did you buy anything yet? I was in the same boat in terms of pulling the trigger on the Tracer. I may wait a bit now...
Good fun!!! Just really liking you getting into the reasons why you wanted that bike over the beast; it makes for a fascinating topic - once you've had a big power machine... how much is too much? Newer bikes now are making insane amounts of power; I have a Speed Triple RS which takes knocks for being "underpowered" even though it makes 150 HP... which to me, is insane power. I enjoy spirited rides and every now and again (when I safely can) letting it rip but it's just TOO much for the road to ride around wide open (by a HUGE margin). Your new bike begs the question - how much power do you really need or want? Your motto is perfect IMHO - "Nothing to Prove". I like the wise mature attitude - been there, done that, now in the 'goldilocks' range - just right.
Thanks Scott, I could not have said it better!
Take care,
Scott
Hello Mr Warner, thank you very much. I think is important to know for the reselling of the bike ( maybe one day! ) and of course other ladies or gentlemans that, like me, may have problems on reaching with both fits the ground.
I was impressed, in positive, for the autonomy range you can achieved with a 15.5 liter tank.
Still, many thanks for taking the time to answer me.
looking forward to see the next/s video/s on the bike.
Tchuss Stelvio
This new GS looks great, also looks like a very balanced package.going to test ride one once the dealers are open again. buy the way, 30 years ago 100 HP motorcycle was impressive and at that time some certain countries wanted to restrict them to that 100 HP limit. My 1989 BMW K100 RS ABS produced 79 HP at the rear wheel. Times have changed.
Probably find 79hp at the wheel is around 100hp at the crank. My dad still goes on about how the Honda cbx750 was an animal. My BMW f800gs makes similar power now and is called boring
Good footage,nice riding and unobtrusive music,well done. I have owned big sports tourers like the Honda VFR1200 and currently the Triumph Sprint GT as I do high klm's on my rides but I did find that on a 800 klm day it does get fatiguing throwing a bike weighing 280 kg plus wet around the corners,I tried the Honda VFR800 Crossrunner but was a little underwhelmed by the lack of torque and it was unnecessarily heavy for a 800 cc.I test rode the BMW1000 XR but found it buzzy and busy for a serious tourer though it was very quick.I enjoyed the review on your bike and hopefully will get to test ride one soon.
Thanks for your view comes in handy as the tracer 900 is in my short list, which is all over the place right now. Luckily I don’t need to make a decision fast.. I also like your take on the multistrada, some of the dealers think that they around the only one around, I am sure that the company, in this case ducati, will not like the approach of the dealership. Be safe
I'd like to see a demo of the anti-dive front suspension during hard braking, a water glass demo of vibration at idle and at speed, I like to hear your comments on center of gravity of of the bike and comments on the warranty. I think you made a great decision.
I am a big fan of the Kawa versus 650. This XR seems to have the same attributes in more intense numbers. That is, more power, more payload, more suspension travel, more electronics. Seems very impressive. My question is how would this bike perform as a mild off roader, given its suspension travel, not withstanding the wheel size, and giving it 70/30 tyres. Thanks for your, always, detailed studies.
Hmm...I would not take this off-road. Light trail (very light) should not be a problem. As you can pretty much take any bike down gravel/improvised roads/trails but as soon as you say off-road then not really, I mean you can, I've taken my 1290SDR off-road and even got it stuck...that was not fun...but the bike is not made to do it.
@@NothingToProve I appreciate it is not ideal, but it is designed as a crossover type bike as described by BMW, as is the versys 650. Better than most road bikes in that regard, but yes one could choose one of the new triumph 900 models, they being more versatile for off-road. But for on road the XR seems greatly versatile and fun, with looks to match. Enjoy!
@@davidmallia628 its only 2kg more than the versys 650 and the BMW has about the same travel suspension Also does not have an exhaust underneath.
Really good looking bike and no other company beats the BMW TFT. Of course if you want to tour on the cheap get an NC750X DCT which will sip fuel compared to your BMW, but old design, only 54HP, very basic display and no electronics, but smooth shifting.
@NothingToProve Great video! I also agree Tracer 900 GT needs a big update to catch up with F900XR, especially on technology and align its design with Tracer 700, etc.
Grateful if you can do a review on 2020 Kawasaki Ninja 1000SX in the future (after the lockdown obviously) because if can’t wait for Yamaha’s update, I am considering to get either F900XR or Ninja 1000SX. Kindly advise if the Ninja’s nearly 240kg curb weight will be an issue just like you mentioned other “big dogs” have or its high torque output in relatively low rev can “overcome” its weight problem. Cheers and stay safe!
Good to see you're well Scott and still able to enjoy riding your new moto. Won't be long till she's broken in.
I would love to hear your opinion on how your bike compares to the new V-Strom 1050 and the Ninja 1000 SX. Thanks!
Agree with your thoughts on the bike. I have a F700GS and owned a R1200GSLC. Those bikes handle well for fast 8 hour days but I really wanted a 17inch wheel machine (faster steering, better feel), that was also easy to ride as my other BMWs and as comfy. Took a test ride on the F900XR and BMW has absolutely nailed it as an easy bike to ride fast ALL DAY....except for the seat..- way too hard. I see you are upgrading to the comfort seat....I would be interested in your review of that. Some people go for the Wunderlich - maybe a price thing?
That is very good fuel economy. I'm sure it would drop with the luggage attached, but that's very good to know. I could squeeze 43 mpg out of my 2015 1200GS, and that was riding mostly at highway speeds.
Great discussion of the f900xr. I think this would be a great addition to my s1000r, for when I want to ride 2 up or maybe spend a bit more time away from home.
Amazing video. I hope you will try the 2020 s1000xr as most people are confused which bike to buy?
Good video. Very good information. Seems you got a nice deal for the bike. What you think about the fit and finish of the bike? Is it as good as the more expensive GS? Or do you notice that it is a cheaper bike?
Thank you Yuri,
Yes, the fit/finish/quality is the same as the bigger GS, that was one of the reasons I purchased the bike, because you get a lot of value for a lot less money, as compared to the GS.
looking at the Multi 950 on ducati.com, it seems to have similar specs but costs considerably more. it is a bigger looking bike with 10-15% more power but the internet price is 4-5 grand more. if money was not a consideration, i would choose the ducati only based on reading about it. the true test is to ride them both for a while. they both look good to me and I would be happy to have either. when i do get a new bike, this class of bike is what I would probably look for. i would not trade in my 690 Duke as that will always be my ride around town and abuse bike cause it is so fun. i just would like a more comfortable bike for long all day/weekend trips that does not suck to ride on a busy interstate. like the NTP guy, I am getting old (50) where comfort is becoming a top consideration.
I am so glad to see you are enjoying! I was out with my lady, doing 2 up for the firs time as well, it was amazing with the R1250RT :D
What about the new Ninja 1000 SX? That's also in that sport-touring segment..would be great if you did a review of the Kawa, comparing it with this XR. Thx for the great review.
Loads of reviews on the z1000sx unbelievable value but the xr has a much higher ride height and longer travel suspension and wide raised up handle bars.
I’ve got the 2019 z1000sx, in my opinion it’s the best of both worlds, panniers on it’s a great tourer, panniers off it’s literally a sports bike 😉
I just purchased a 2021 900XR TE. Whilst i like it, i was initially contemplating an 1200/50GS. But thought it would be to big for me. Aftwr getting used to a bigger bike in the (900XR) im seriously considering going trading it in for a GS 1250. Purely because of the 2 up capabilities over the 900XR.
Loved the scenery Scott, this is a perfect road for your twin bike, the sound is just great, loved it.
When i saw the bike for the first time it disappointed me, but after your reviews i change my mind.
Maybe in the future i will look for a new exhaust, well this is just me.
Congratulations,
Thank you for this informative review. By the way, the fuel consumption is surprisingly low!
I did a test ride with the F900XR some days ago and must agree that it makes a lot of fun especially due to the agile chassis.
It is worth to buy the quick shifter option. The blipper works even better than the upshifting function. For upshifting you need higher revs and open throttle. Really annoyed I was about the uncomfortable seat. Already after a few minutes I realized this edge that "bites" into the thigh as well the sharp step from driver to pillion seat. You don't have to drive long distances to realize it as something annoying. My question is, if the shape of your comfort seat fits better?
Further the finding of neutral attracted negative attention, because at traffic lights I regularly stepped into second gear. Is this something common or maybe serial dispersion?
The Yamaha Tracer 900 (GT) design is in my opinion not really outmoded but more in regard to technical details like the small TFT screen, the unavailable cornering ABS and dynamic traction control. The rest is still competitive to its rivals, especially thanks to the superb engine, that I am driving for years in my MT-09.
Please go ahead with your entertaining F900XR reports!
Yes it is low, especially the way I was riding it for that entire take of gas, let's just say it was not slow. If I was riding a Tracer900 that way, it'd be much worse, BUT then that's why it has a bigger gas tank, it has to have a bigger tank to get the same range.
Yes, when I get the comfort seat and side cases and engine spoiler, I'll make a video about how they work, look, feel...etc. But will have to wait a bit for the virus to calm down.
Ride safe,
Scott
excellent review videos Scott, I enjoy watching them a lot. It would be great if you add some diversity to your videos like a riding day with friends and interacting with people.
Thanks for the great job. ride safe
Great review as always! Was it a comfort seat you had mentioned in previous video? Have you already received it? I tried F900XR with a standard seat and it was not comfortable at all. Ride safe!
The standard seat on BMW is almost always torture. ,(hence the comfort seat)
Hi, The answer is GS has a shaft and it's a biggest advantage between these two bikes especially when it comes to travel a long distances! Also, suspension is much smoother on GS due to a heavier weight. What do you think about it? I'd appriciate your answer! Thank you,
Yes sir, agreed!
I think you should have given the 900 GT Pro a go. It’s more of a road focused bike and that’s what you have gone with. Can’t knock the BMW 3 year warranty though :)
Great video & presentation. Honest review & good bit of humour. Enjoy the ride, stay safe & please show us more of beautiful Germany! Where are you based roughly? The F900XR is a great bike from BMW. New, fresh & nicely presented. Having seen your previous videos of when you first picked it up, because of the sunlight face on the side of the bike, I thought the side panels were black & it looked great. I actually thought that was an optional extra you ordered! Then the side or front shot of the bike showed them to be grey. Keep up your content & appreciate your honesty! 💯👍
Thank you Steve, yes, BMW upped their game with the looks of this bike.
I'm in the northern part of Germany, Paderborn to be exact.
keep safe,
Scott
NothingToProve Thanks Scott! Congratulations on your new bike! Looks great & you are a true gentleman! I’ve never visited that part of Germany, mainly south. Take care & safe but more importantly, enjoy life!
The f900xr vs the f850gsa would be a great comparison
nice video as usual, for me what i would like to see in more detail is a small trip done with the turn by turn navigation,what does it show on the highway when 4 lanes are divided by 2 to the left and 2 to the right, with a tom tom you see the map clearly what is going on but what about wit the arrows, maybe a stupid question but is it clear? can you really use it or is it a gimmick and are you just going to use a phone on a mount or a tom tom in the end? what about the keyless ignition; do you think its worth it and is it any safe in your opinion?really liking your calm tone and way of making those videos, nice change from all those other pumped up and hyper luny tunes ;-)
Getting one soon. $1000 down this Tuesday. Shinny side up
What's refreshing is that I'm not hearing a list of "third-party" must have extras before the bike is really complete, again good decision.
Hey! Because of you I started to consider buying this bike. I can't find any reviews from passenger point of view. Can you take passenger for a ride and ask for her/his experience? I wonder if it is possible to enjoy touring with this bike as a couple or is it more like solo-mode bike. Thanks for all videos you make!
Hi Scott! Congrats for your channel. It is one of the most interesting, if not the most, in terms of analysing real pros & cons of a bike.
I am considering now buying an R1250RS. I watched both reviews you did about this bike and I found them really really good. I found specially interesting when you explained the nitpickings you found in the second review. Thank for both reviews.
I would like to give me your opinion about its sport and touring balance. Maybe is a bit more heavy than the XR but.., is still agile enough to make an “spirited fast paced ride”? How you would you consider it? 50% 50%? Or.., I don’t know...
By the way, one of the things I love more in my actual bike (an F800S that I own since 14 years ago) is the belt..., since this experience I see chain as an anachronism..., but maybe in this time they have improved chains enough not to make a “daily” maintenance, I don’t know...
Anyway, thanks for your advises. Keep this high level, please.
Cheers from Barcelona! ✌🏼✌🏼
That road looks tasty! I want to test ride this bike and the Tiger 900 GT Pro. Two bikes I'm considering for my next purchase.
Can you make a comparison between the f900xr and the f750gs? Being both road oriented touring bikes think it could be a fair comparison.
Good review so far just one thing you could look at is riding with a pillion the bike looks a little short on videos but ticks ever other box. Sadly can't test ride bike in UK on lockdown. Can't even ride my own bike police asking where you're going .stay safe.
Post lockdown pls compare 900XR with 2020 Multistrada S.
Another good, detailed, review - thanks for sharing 👍
I also just traded in a Superduke R--but for a Superduke GT. I'm thinking the GT is about between the SDR and this f900xr. Have you ridden at SD GT? Wanted short tour with pillion and INCLUDED side bags capability but can't completely give up that 1290 KTM torquer motor--which some say the GT is sweeter more mellow-- if it needs to be--than the SDR.
What do you think? Thanks.
I've ridden the F900 XR low version, (6'1") Cramped! but I really want to ride the Tiger 900 before deciding. You've ridden both and you purchased the BMW so that speaks well of the BMW. What was your deciding factor to go with the BMW over the Triumph?
TFT simplicity. Looks. On the road, the XR will out handle the Tiger without even trying. But that is because the Tiger is an adventure bike and the XR is a sport/tour bike. That's really what it came down to, road vs. off-road.
@@NothingToProve Are you talking about the Rally Pro or the GT Pro or both? Thanks.
Both really, I mean the Rally has the extra suspension travel so it's higher but the GT drags pegs sooner than the Rally and the GT is for the road! So I don't get that. But I like the Rally better than the GT but the Rally is more for off-road and you can't get the electronic rear suspension on the Rally, only on the GT.
As usual Triumph makes it complicated. So I passed on them both. I mean i like them but for an all rounder the XR just makes better sense.
@@NothingToProve Thanks, appreciate your thoughts and opinion.
Hi Scott,I own a 2017 BMW R1200GS (and happy with it ) and I am considering a downsize......age you know.
My most important doubt is the passengers comfort on the XR900 because 90% of my rides are in duo.
Are you considering a review with passender comments?
Great channel !
Thank you William,
No, I'm not considering this kind of video simply because my wife just got her Honda Monkey and she is going for her licence now so she can ride it next to me on the XR. So no two-up on the XR now 😢
I am thining about buying an f900xr, what do you think of the quickshifter.
When i test rode it, it felt kind of clunky and not as smooth as other quickshifters.
How does the comfort seat feel, the basic one is to hard for my taste.
Overal great reviews, i subbed.
Yes, the QS is clunkly, on all BMW's the QS is that way unless it's the S1000RR/R/XR then it's great. Don't know about the comfort seat yet, still waiting for the plant in Berlin to get back up to speed...and yes the basic one IS too hard for me too. 😁
Ride safe,
Scott
Good info as usual. Still not clear about the wind protection at highway speeds. Is it worse than on the 1250 gs? Thanks
Yes, it's worse than the GS. The GS is much bigger in the front and every where else, so it will naturally have more protection.
But for it's size, the wind protection is good.
Nice bike, but I'll take a Tiger 900 please. More versatile, and you get to have the triple engine everywhere you go.
Great video as ever Scott. Seriously tempted by a new 900 XR but can buy a 6 month old S1000XR here in the UK for the same money......what to do? Stay safe 👍
The s1000xr will be a lot more to insure almost 3x as much for me. and get awful mpg. And around town it's really hard to modulate the throttle. That bike really wants to go. Seen some really nice ones for £7,995 and I always wanted a s1000xr.
I am thinking that the R 1250 RS might be more of what I am looking for and might be better for 2 up riding than this 900 XR? I am a bigger guy. Also I am seeing 2018 s 1000 XRs here in the state prices drop since the 2020 model came out. under 11k USD for a 1000XR with low miles sounds like a deal to me also over this 900 XR new. Put it in rain mode for easier going when sight seeing?
Great review, I have this bike on loan from my local dealership in white and sliver, your red and black looks great, how do you find the comfort seat compared to the standard seat? Thanks
Thank you.
I don't have the comfort seat yet because the BMW plant in Berlin is shut-down 😒
But when I get the comfort seat, side hard cases & engine spoiler, I'll make a video about them.
please do a comparison video tiger900 vs bmw xr900
pls do a testride on the brandnew s1000 xr =) cheers
As soon as this corona stuff is over with...I'll be on it!
Thanks for all the info.
I was wondering if you can review the 900xr with passenger.
Hi, you might compare this to the kawasaki ninja 1000 sx
I'm torn between F850GS & F900XR. I'm more on road. But GS have the looks. Help
have you rode it 2 up yet? what is it like if you have? Great videos and reviews
Please give us some thoughts on the front un-adjustable suspension on worse roads than the lovely smooth roads you seem to have there in Germany. I had a TDM 900 for years and loved it. So for obvious resons im thinking of buying 900XR but the front suspension is my concern.
Hi Bud, (the wiser)
Oh, there were plenty of "bad" roads that we rode that day, they just didn't make it into the video (I wasn't talking or what I was saying didn't apply or there just was not enough time to put it into the video).
Nice name BTW, 🤣
Ride safe,
Scott
how about pillion seat comfort for long rides..
Hi Scott I hope you can get your hands on a Ducati 950s id love to know your thoughts in comparison to your f900xr... as usual very detailed and clear review with the experience... more power...
Did you feel much vibration/buzz through the grips?
Buzz is only in the upper limit of the rev-range. Where we do normal riding, almost non-existent.
Great Review. Really enjoyed.Very Practical review.
Is this bike better than 2020 kawasaki ninja 1000 sx??
Thank you,
I don't know about the 1000SX, I have not ridden it as of yet. When I do then I can let you know. 😁
@@NothingToProve Thanks.
Cheers Scott - I'm actually looking at a downsize too (from a Caponord Rally 1200 - 130hp) and this is in the radar. I owned a 700GS and found the engine a bit boring. How about this one? And would you say the screen is good or maybe for travels you might consider a higher one? ride safe and take care
Hello,
The engine is the best parallel twin I've ridden in the middleweights...except for the MT-07 is a little better sound...so BMW changed the firing order and changed the crank shaft to give it more character (just like Yamaha, Honda, KTM...etc.) and in turn it has more torque lower in the rev-range. I noticed with the past 700-750-800-850 BMW's they were lacking in this area, this one is much better and I can actually leave the bike in a higher gear and not have to down shift and just twist the throttle and "lug" my way out of a corner. In other words I can be lazy and not shift if I don't want too 😁
The wind screen is good and for weekend/week long trips it's just fine. Only buffeting is on highway with a cross wind (or passing big trucks). If I were to do longer trips than that, I think I'd look for an after market bigger screen but for now this is enough for me.
Ride safe,
Scott
@@NothingToProve Thank you Scott - keep up with the good work but ride & stay safe ;)
First time to see your videos, nice job. Very thorough, I liked that. I've been riding Beemers (1150 GS & 1200 LT) for many years. How is the chain maintenance on this bike ? I haven't had one in sooo long, since my Triumph & Bultaco days.
Don't know, don't need it yet. But I imagine it's the same just like on any other bike, the main reason I got the center stand on it :)
Hey Scott, Just recently discovered your channel and enjoying your reviews. Off the wall question - my wife LOVES your riding jeans, can you tell me (her) what brand/model you are sporting in your videos?
Thank you.
The jeans are Trilobite Agnox.
Ride safe,
Scott
Great review as usual, are you still aloud to go out for pleasure rides in Germany we’re not aloud to in the uk I want to test ride this bike wants were out of lockdown
Thank you David.
It depends on the State here in Germany. Currently the State that I'm in has a restriction of only two bikes together, no more. But that will probably change soon cause there are too many ignoring that rule...the few always ruin it for every one else.
Lovely comparo of the range of bikes with a beautiful view... What do you think about this bike va 850gs.. you could have done more off road as well?
Yes, off-road, true but the reason that I didn't go with the 850GS is it's weight and looks. It weights almost as much as a 1250GS (not GSA) so if I were to consider getting an 850GS I'd just go with the 1250GS. That's just mho 👍😁 BUT I have done all day at an off-road park on an 850GS and it was great! I does better than the 1250GS/GSA in off-road! But not as good as the 1250 on-road.
Ride safe,
Scott
Very well done videos--great scenery, editing, and content. Can you explain what you mean by "twitchy"? Throttle response, handling? I test-rode a 900xr last week and found quite a bit of vibration above 6000 rpm. Does that bother you, or do you keep it under 6000 rpm where it's super smooth? What are you using for helmet speakers that allows you to hear your phone guidance and phone calls in your helmet? Thanks for taking the time to help me determine if this is the bike for me.
Thank you Michael,
Yes, the vibs are there above 6k, only feel it on the autobahn above 160 ish kph so don't do that much so don't care (I usually do around 130-140). The helmet is a Schuberth R2 with the SC1 communication system in it...which is the basic Sena10 that you can buy and add to any helmet. So what I have to do is connect the phone (BMW Motorrad Connect app) and helmet to the bike in the "connection settings" and then when I turn on the bike it will see my phone and helmet automatically when ever I turn on the bike.
Ride safe,
Scott
Oh, and "twitchy" was when I was referring to the the turn in of a bike. It's a term that one usually uses for sport/naked bikes, in that they are so easy or take very little input to initiate a turn into a corner/curve.
And that is why I was careful when I said "this is almost twitchy" because it took very little input into the handle bar to initiate a turn in, close to a naked bike level and less input for a sport/touring level bike. That can be a good thing or a bad thing depending on how you want to ride. I happen to like it since my previous bike was the 1290 Super Duke R, which was very twitchy, so I was used to putting very little input into the handle bar to initiate a turn in. But for sport/touring bikes, you want to be more comfortable and don't always want to be "careful" when droning out the miles on a bike, so I think that BMW hit a "sweet spot" here with this in that it's not too much twitchyness but enough to ride sporty when you want to and not too much so you can be comfortable & relaxed.
@@NothingToProve Thanks for taking the time to answer. After your responses, it seems this bike suits me well, except for the look of the gas tank area in profile. But, as you said, you don't necessarily choose a bike for its looks (KTM). BTW, I may consider moving to Germany after seeing your videos.
Is it legal to go out for a ride during lock-down? Just wondering... I wanna go out for a ride too
Yes, still is...but for how much longer...is the question. 😒
Rocket 3. GT version! Wash the bike in spiritus before and after riderchange.
Hi Scott, I wondered if you could give some pillion feedback/details. Leaning towards the F900XR over the Tracer 900GT but the pillion comfort worries me. Will take a test ride with pillion but appreciate your opinion. Thanks. Rob.
Sorry Rob,
I have no clue as of yet. With this virus thing going on it's really hard to get out and do testings. We'll have to wait a bit 😒😢
@@NothingToProve understandable! Stay safe 👍
Hey Scott! Glad to see you're enjoying the 900xr. Sorry to hear your experience with Ducati. Seems like the same issue here in Canada! A couple of guys I've spoke to at dealerships, left me with the impression that if I wasn't buying today, they weren't interested. Oh well, that makes it an easy choice to remove from the list. Dealership support is so important, and if I have to ride 400km round trip to get servicing done and deal with that attitude...that's a pass from me. Anyhoo..I would like to know if you e done any 2 up riding on the 900xr yet? If so, how did it handle o those sweet twisties?
Cheers
Thank you. No two up yet, I'm really self-restricting my riding now down to the bear minimum with the corona virus. 😒
some people complain about the screen handle being on the right side, can't you just not dissasemble it and flip it over to the left side?
maybe aftermarket left side arm in the future, it's only a plastic part.
I've never heard or seen any comments about that before you. Now you have me wondering...hmmm... 🤣
Your reviews are the best I’ve come across since 1999 when I first started reading reviews. Could you please do a review on the 2020 ninja 1000sx?
Thank you,
I hope to do that bike soon. 😊
Ride safe,
Scott
Could you compare the cornering and full day riding comfort to the 2020 R 1250 RS. I am at a point where I am wanting to upgrade to a shaft driven road only motorcycle to take the chain maintenance out of the mix. Thank you!
The XR will out corner the RS without a thought and tour a little better than the RS (because the riding position is more relaxed on the XR, on the RS you are a little leaned forward and foot pegs are a little up and back as compared to the XR (because BMW was going for a more sporty ride and less touring with the RS)).
Ride safe,
Scott
I heard a throw-away remark from a journalist at the launch of the 900XR in Spain say that BMW had remarked you got 105 ponies (your technical term!) only if you put 98 octane fuel in the bike. It could however be slightly under 100 bhp if you put in the cheap stuff! Any thoughts on the veracity of this?
Said the same with the f850gs claimed only 90hp. I always run primum fuel anyway
Why did you choose red? Your presentation is excellent and very convincing! Thanks
Thank you Dan,
Because I didn't like the other two colors, so it was more of a "which color is acceptable the most" choice. Red is ok, it's better than white or gold, gold looks good at first but then I think it would get old and I had the white XR in my garage for over a week for the "short term review" and it got old too...at least for me. Color is subjective.
Ride safe,
Scott
NothingToProve Thanks for the explanation! You convinced me to buy the XR but was undecided about color. In Texas, this is a big deal because its Harley country! But the choice is really a no brainer! Harley is not equal to the quality and the price especially a 10 year old bike!! I am still thinking about red! Best regards, Dan
Like your down to earth reviews 👍
Question: how is the moto for slow speed (15-25mph) and tight/quick maneuvering and handling? I’m using motos for pacing and officiating bicycle races and the size of the new F900XR is looking very interesting.
It has excellent low speed manners, that is one of the things that impressed me about it.
vs the modern Tiger 900, and what's the 900XR like over a couple hundred Km of autobahn/motorway - comfort mainly? Good video btw
Thank you Gary,
I've done some time on the autobahn with this and it does just fine. Although I got some buffeting when there was a cross-wind or passing a big truck. But I guess that is to be expected unless you are on a full size touring bike.
I have a friend who has a 1200 gs and every time we ride together is hard for me to keep up with him, those gs are fast and with that quick shifter, but he is much more experienced than me
What's about the wind protection and wind buffeting around the helmet? Does the touring screen really helps to make the ride more quiet and comfy?
Yes it does. The only buffeting is on the highway when passing a big truck or a cross wind.
Thanks for the review, how does it compare to the new Tiger 900. Both are on my radar, but can only get 1.
Very well. I talk about it in the video 😁
Both are not just good bikes but great bikes and it really comes down to what you want, either bike will make you very happy for a long time.
Ride safe,
Scott
Did you considered f850gs at all? You said that tiger 900 was damn near close, but what about the middle gs thing?
Yea, did a review of that when it came out. It's a good bike but ruled it out cause of it's size and weight and the motor is more responsive on the 900XR & Tiger900.
Another great review. The bike looks great !
Have u tried it two-up? What do you think, does it have enough power for tow-up? And are u thinking about changing exhaust, maybe to reduce weight and better sound? thx
No, not yet and with the current virus things going on...probably won't for a while.
Sure, it's got enough power for two-up, no problem.
No, I actually like the quiet exhaust note, coming from the KTM1290SDR, it's a welcome change :)
NothingToProve I totally agree. For long rides, a quieter exhaust would be more welcome. Plus the stock F900XR exhaust sounds good already. Just my humble opinion
Great video, great job again!!!. I learnt with them all, always!!!. What about the new Kawasaky Ninja 1000 SX?, perhaps it´s a more sporty bike. Cheers from Spain!!!
Thank you.
Yes the SX has more power but it is heavier so the power & performance gains might not be so great once you add in the weight. I was just tired of middleweight sport/touring bikes that weight more than 230kg and this is at 235kg. I mean the 1290GT was already pushing it for me at 228kg and that has a lot more power than the SX but it is way more expensive.
Great videos - thank you! I know your bike is new and you'll probably get to it in future, but I'm interested to know how this bike performs with a pillion passenger and some luggage?
Yes, I probably would have had those videos out if it weren't for corona. :(
In time...
Thanks for watching!
Scott
Might be my new bike once I sell my VFR800X Crossrunner, but I'm in love with it so won't happen soon^^
How does your bike compare to the f850gs?
The 850GS is for off-road too, and I will not do any off-road with this bike, so I don't need it. Plus I like this motor a lot better than the 850, even though they come from the same family of motors.
As always nice informative video. Is there a big difference when driving between a clear and tinted windscreen?
Thank you. No, not really, I don't even notice it when riding, it's really a purely cosmetic thing.
@@NothingToProve Thanks. What do you say as an expert, is the F900 XR a bike for returners?
Sure, it's great for everyone, it really is that easy to ride. That is one of the reasons I made it my "daily ride". I don't have to think when I ride it. I just enjoy being out in the environment. And I think that is the point that BMW wanted to make when they made this. Forget about the bike and enjoy the ride.
Hey Scott I told you my decision was the F 900 R Or the 890 Duke Super scalpel but after this review I am thinking the BMW might be the best choice still haven’t gotten a review on the 890 however KTM did put out a short release video on it. So keep the reviews coming on your BMW it’s sounding better all the time I know you’ll come up with some more challenges for it. Personally I love the naked version better. I know you have the electronica suspension on yours maybe it’s possible that you could let us know how well that works on different road services and cornering thanks again for a great review I ask you before about your helmet I believe it’s a German manufactured helmet if you could give me more information on that I would like to look it up thanks again Scott you’re very thorough.
Hi Keith,
Yea, waiting for the 890...waiting...waiting...sigh...virus...sigh
The helmet I was wearing is a Schuberth R2.
Ride safe, if you can,
Scott
Ducati - Testing and buying motorcycles is pure joy compared to buying cars. Every dealership is fantastic and can't do enough to get you out testing their bikes .... except for Ducati.
Without doubt the worst experience I had. Id did finally manage to arrange a ride of the Multistrada and it is worth the premium over Japanese and it looks awesome (especially compared to the BMW sorry).
However I disliked the agricultural feel of the twin, but the dealer never got back to me despite promise to do so and chasing up via phone (and no they didn't know I was not impressed with the engine as they were so busy chatting between themselves and another customer and approaching closing time they clearly wanted to go home, so had all the details (me, current bike etc) and assured me they would get back.
Sorry, should wait till I finish the video before posting (though 3 separate topics)
I have 3 ducatti places not to far from me. Bristol Bridgewater and Cardiff. All don't seem bothered about selling you a bike and never got back to me either.