I'm 65........ I was there through the whole, punk, New Wave scene etc.... I bought the first album by Gary...... I hope he hangs on to his youth long enough to keep pumping them out, for a long time..... and I hang on to mine long enough to still appreciate it......
@@lovejago - he's still touring and HE'S SO GOOD. Saw him at Cruel World last year and HOLY SHIT. There some great acts, and he wasn't even who I went to see (no disrespect), but HE BLEW EVERYONE OUT OF THE FUCKING WATER. It was so good.
True story. I was near the entrance to Disneyland in Calfornia, the evening of Sat. Dec. 23, 2022. And I saw him with his wife and oldest daughter. I recognized him, and called his name. His wife turned around and then he did. And it blew me away. I was lucky enough to chat with him for a few minutes and took three selfies. I remember asking his daughter if she knew how cool he was. She had headphones on and Gary said "She is probably listening to my music". Super nice guy and humble too. It made my year, as I am a big fan of his. First saw him in the 1980'sl, and 3 times in the last 6 or 7 years. He is a pioneer in the field of electronic music and very underrated and under-appreciated. He should be in the Rock Hall of Fame, but those a-holes have about a 20 year backlog to catch up on. Happy New Years to all music lovers out there!
He saved my life- his music I was inspiration for an 18 year old soldier, in a job i had no preparation for (field artillery forward observer). Made me think there was something more out there. At a time i needed it. He is an older brother an mentor, and a muse.
Nah he hasnt. I was a massive Numan fan in the 80s and stopped listening in the early 90's because he started putting out crap, and he admits himself he lost his way. Even now whilst his career is well and truly on track his music does nothing for me, all just sounds the same to me. He is obviously doing something he likes, and lots of fans clearly like it, but I imagine theres a fair few of us from the 80's that cant relate to his current style. Nothing wrong with that, its evolution.
Right? You know what though being underrated isn’t so bad we can enjoy it without ass clowns ruining it by commercializing it and over playing it. Ever hear a song you like and it becomes commercialized and you just want to slam a flat screen upside their heads for ruining the sacredness of it?
I just heard this on the latest episode of South Park (S25 E05) & thought "This is GOOD!" I Spotified it and was pleased to find it was by Gary Numan whose work I adored 40 years ago. This is the best new song (to me) that I have heard in a very long time. Just awesome! I now have to listen to the rest of this album & some more recent work! A huge thanks to Gary for this. Again, just awesome...
@@augustschweigeryt559 Depeche Mode and Gary Numan have/had a very similar career trajectory - start out with a little bit of radio-friendly pop, then go full alternative once they've made a name for themselves. I can dig that energy.
I'm honestly really impressed by this. A lot of old artists hang onto their old sound, trying to remake their 70s or 80s sound when they don't have the strength or voice. Instead, Gary Numan has embraced modern electronic music and made something that sounds brand new.
Cody Cromarty that's because he has real talent. Most artists just get lucky with 2 or 3 good songs then try to repeat their success. Real talent evolves regardless of the artists age.
Just bought it to read too 😊 and it starts already good, imagining him really saying what he wrote 💞 one of the kindest humble man in the world 🙏❣more attractive the older he gets 🥰
I'm starting to think that all the musicians from the greatest 80s era, got so frustrated with how crappy music is today, so they decided to come back and do it the right way once more.! Welcome back Gary Numan!
today's music is good, you just have to look for the right artists. yes, there's shitty rappers, but a lot of new indie bands are amazing. for example, the duo IC3PEAK has this songs feel. you're just some bitter boomer who can't deal with the fact the world is changing lmao
@@aaka333 David Bowie was really into Death Grips. Very few musicians from the "golden age" dislike modern music. Great music is everywhere, you just need to look past the top 40 for once.
@@Heliocentric It depended, my grandparents were kids in the 20's and 30's but they were kind of cool, so I heard a lot of very cool stuff I'd have never heard, old Nina Simone works, Jazz standards from the era and the shit you'd hear in old bootleg liquor establishments. My one sister on the other hand was born in '72 and listened to the most boring pop crap you could imagine, and gospel...like Amy Grant...there's badass music from every era, and there's absolute crap in every era, for every one person listening to Numan, Skinny Puppy, The Future Sound of London, Violator era Depeche Mode and Einstürzende Neubauten there were 500 drooling over the likes of Tiffany or other such bubblegum pop shit... The real trick? Finding the people, of any era, who had their ear to the ground and liked what wasn't playing on the top 40's stations...that includes today, there's so much amazing, kickass music today it's breathtaking...you just don't hear it in the Billboard hot 100...actually, it's the foreign market I've been really listening to lately...Japan, the Ukraine and so on...stuff like Ningen Isu, Jinjer, Asterism, 88kasyo junrei, Unleash The Archers and so on are all just fucking epic
Interviewer: Do you feel detached from the music you made early on in your career? Numan: A little bit, yes. I do. I can’t imagine how you would feel connected to something you wrote 35, 40 years ago. Even if you’d had a fairly boring life, age alone would make you feel like a different person. The only connection that remains is what those songs did for you, how they thread through your career. From a creative or emotional point of view, they’re like the vaguest of memories. You listen to these songs, which were essentially teenage tantrums, and it’s difficult to relate to the angst that bothered you then. It’s like looking back at old film of you as a kid: it’s nearly always embarrassing. From Huckmag - 2017
I feel that. Even when I found e mails or message I wrote to someone 10 or 20 years ago, I feel like it was someone else and ask myself how is it possible I wrote that, bad or good. With regard to us, as public, fans or just consumers of any art it's different, we always connect for example, some song to some event or feeling, not all, but lot of music we listen after decades, it means feeling was strong ( feels~good~man )
Why does Gary bother to play these songs live anymore, then? Because they are the building blocks that have made him the truly great artist that he is today, and indeed has always been. Songs such as Cars, She's Got Claws etc. define him, and they cannot be dismissed as juvenile attempts at songwriting - right from Down In The Park, Are 'Friends' Electric? etc., he created a brand-new sound of incredible depth and maturity, and though of course he has moved on from those early years, those songs sound as fresh and full of unique imagery as they ever did and remain as testament to his great and highly original songwriting skills, in my humble opinion. Let The Machines rock!!
There's a book called: My Name Is Red, it's really good. It doesn't have to do with this song, but it almost feels similar in * words eughk can't find them *
Savage is actually a concept album which basically tells the whole story from beginning to end if you listen to it in order. And yes, it is a great plot that would definitely make an interesting film/series.
there is something so deeply primal about this video, from the music to the imagery to his eyes and posture being somewhere between hunter and ruler to her eyes and composure being like a meek and beautiful trusting little lamb. i can't be the only one who sees this. but Newman is a bloody genius for all of it
He's performing at a Bowie level, decade after decade. His album releases over the last dozen years or so are some of his all time best. Inspires me to keep going with my creative efforts. Thank you Gary!!
Gary is at the top of his game here and that is extremely impressive at age 60. The sound is off the hook and his ability to put his personal stamp on this genre now in 2018 is amazing. He looks great, sounds awesome and is totally killing it.
His voice hasn't deepened that much and weakened with waning lungs, like so many of us as we sing and age...he very nearly sounds the same (I said very nearly) as he did on "Are Friends Electric" and "Cars." Think Joni Mitchell's young voice in the late 60s VS now...that should help with perspective! :-)
I spent 23 years in the U. S. Army. 15 years ago I was in Iraq. 10 years ago, I was in Kosovo. Tonight's the first time I heard this song... I've got too many demons haunting my dreams - this song may help me exorcise a few more of them and let me sleep a little better tonight. Gary Numan - this old vet thanks you for writing this song and letting the world hear it.
I have been sad 4 days over your comment. I know, you don't forgive yourself. I know you think God cant forgive you. I know your think you can't tell people what you have been thru or what sins you have done. Mercy is the first casualty of war. But I forgive you. And fuck God if he doesn't . My god forgives you. In your next reincarnation i pray may you become mother Teresa or siddhartha budda. Your 7/8 there already my friend , you just don't know it yet.... hag on like a kitty on a tree branch, the world needs you here. Your tomorrow begins at sunrise.....
Same here. I looked up the song cars on spotify and then checked out his discography and saw so many albums! I was curious about what his newer (2000 and up) stuff would sound like and it blew me away! I'm a HUGE NIN fan and feel silly that I barely knew Gary at all. Actually that's an understatement. I knew 2 songs of his and didn't even know his name until 2 days ago!!!!!
Persia is incredible. While all her contemporaries are dreaming of instant X Factor fame and fortune, she's doing something very cool and extremely credible. Go girl!.... and some quality parenting right there, Mr Numan.
The whole Savage album is actually based on an apocalyptic dystopian Mad Max style novel Gary had been trying to write for years. Eventually he just turned it into a concept album instead! If you know the basic plot outline and listen to the album in order, it gives you the full story in musical form! (And yes, it would make a great movie done right)
I never gave this song's lyrics much thought at first but if you've had life experiences where other people force you into an "outsider" role and project bad things on you because of your differences from them, you "get it". Gary Numan definitely does.
This is not my first introduction but South Park made me realize he’s still making music. Gary’s one of those acts I thought I’d missed out on because I wasn’t old enough. Glad he’s still going.
Exactly! Heard the rift in the beginning in the episode, Shazammed that bad boy and now I’m obsessed! LoL . Trying to figure out how to make my PUBG character look like Gary in this video
@@chilemachinexd5040 I love this song too- so powerful. It's on a par with Are "Friends" Electric?. This tune will be a future classic and having Gary's daughter singing as well, makes it more special. Does she still sing with Gary though?
Yeah, Gary Numan never retired. You just stopped listening. I have a an entire shelf of Numan Studio albums. You’ve got several decades of music to catch up on. Enjoy.
...because the radio stations cater only to 'aficionados' of autotune, generic, uninspired corporate-created crap that honestly, is offensive to me to even call it 'music' - not sure what is worse - being chased by a serial killer in some godforsaken backwoods, or listening to today's radio 'music'. Hmm, methinks the serial killer is actually a more palatable outcome......
It depends where you live, midwest and south= country and religious East coast= alt rock, rap West coast= latin, rap, r&b, political (rage against, greenday, etc) Honestly i heard this play this kind of stuff play on college radio.
I was asking myself this last night at his incredible concert last night @ Irving Plaza. I didn't explore his songs after the overplayed "Cars", until recently. I am am catching up now.
Jim Brice i grew up in Wraysbury nr Windsor/Staines UK, Gary grew up there too, his first job was baggage handler at Heathrow Airport, so close to us. His Mum and Dad encouraged his musical career, thank goodness they did, he is a talented man, his wife Gemma was instrumental to getting his musical career on track. The UK press were negative from the start, playing the “rich kid card”. Gary you, Gemma and your girls are fn awesome xoxox
@@elliepond5984 Thank you for this story. I appreciate it. I am quite thankful for Gary and his work, and now thankful to his parents and wife. His girls are certainly awesome.
@@humanblacklight Yes he is.Music changes all the time , in fact I dont call it music anymore, its shit lol.Gary brought this electro to the scene synts & such.He does have a huge following in Europe.I a glad hes still with us and doing music.Peace man.
Groundbreaking and NEVER more important. Gary Numan is a seminal artist. It's difficult to overstate his artistry or sociological insight. Been listening for 30 years and will ALWAYS be grateful for this art.
Holy shit. Did that actually happen? Kinda off-topic. We used to have a music store over here in the UK that put all of Nine Inch Nails' music under nu-metal... Come on. When The Fragile came out they classed them as "nu-metal Gods"... People really don't have a fucking clue at times. I think the were called MVC, Music, Video, Cassette. Lasted as long as a rancid fart in the wind. As for Gary Numan, I saw him play in Southampton last year. Easily one of the best shows that I've ever seen live! Really looking forward to Intruder, and catching him live again. This guy is relentless. Strength to strength. I don't know if you've heard of Jayce Lewis? If not, I highly recommend.
It's up to her what she does with her future, but I really hope she becomes a musician, someday. :) Gary, himself, said that she has the talent for it.
@@reeses_unicorn True, it is up to her if she wants to pursue that. If she does, she has the talent and a very important person as her father who could help steer her through the pretty grimy world of the music industry.
@@dacypher22 Keep in mind this is the studio recording and her voice was layered multiple times with effects to make it sound like it does. I have no doubt she's a good singer, but that "huge, powerful voice" had some help.
Malcolm Patterson Can you believe that he is technically, at least In the US a one hit wonder? It would be great that nearly 40 years later, he finally gets another one.
I never thought that 36 years after high school I'd become a huge Gary Numan fan. Loved the Cars song at the time but have really discovered his brilliance now.
Less than 5 seconds in & I thought exactly the same thing. 'I Come With Knives' immediately sprang to mind. I love Chris Corners work. Great music, great visuals, a great artist!
LYRICS: When they called me broken, I knew When they called me evil, I knew When they called me ruin, I knew I would always find my way to you When I begged forgiveness, they knew When I begged for mercy, they knew When I begged for nothing, they knew I would always find my way to you My name is ruin My name is vengeance My name is no one And no one is calling My name is ruin My name is heartbreak My name is lonely My sorrow's a darkness My name is ruin My name is evil My name's a war song I'll sing you a new one My name is ruin My name is broken My name is shameless I'll tear your world open When I called you poison, you knew When I called you shameful, you knew When I called you liar, you knew I would always find my way to you I'll show you ruin I'll show you vengeance I'll show you no one And no one is calling I'll show you ruin I'll show you heartbreak I'll show you lonely And sorrow and darkness I'll show you ruin I'll show you evil I'll sing you a war song I'll sing you a new one I'll show you ruin I'll show you broken I'll show you shameless I'll tear your world open
The Middle Eastern vibes and flavors in his new stuff are just the best of the best. Not a hug fan of his older stuff, absolutely love the 2 newest albums.
@@princeofcupspoc9073 True, but none had reached the level of success that he did at his height. Kraftwerk comes *close*, Ultravox comes *close*, but Reznor and Manson didn't cover them, now, did they :)
@@WolfWinter speaking of Reznor, I know this is pretty random, but Devo did a cover of Head Like a Hole. it's on UA-cam. find it and give it a listen. it's much better than you would expect it to be before you hear it
This proves Gary is ahead of the game my god this vid was more then fantastic this vid needs to be seen by the whole world thanks Gary for making fantastic music fan from the very start.
This superb offering from Gary, loaded with atmosphere and haunting Eastern synthfluences, should have been a massive hit. There is little justice in this world, but Numan's legions of fans have remained staunchly loyal to him and at last he is enjoying the respect and recognition he richly deserves. Gary is still producing high quality material, and daughter Persia is now onboard enhancing his rich soundscapes. 👌🎤🎶🎹🎻
Nobody from the music generations that came before BS (before streaming) are allowed on the charts. This song is great. I only heard it today on a south park clip. 😳😳😳
I know him from cars. Was at a festival yesterday and having no other person I knew playing I stayed for Gary. Heard this. WHAT THE FUCK JUST HAPPENED…that shit was so crazy, and live he delivers it at the same or ever greater level than the audio/video. At 65. HOW? I pray I’m as cool as Gary in my later adult life.
I have a learning disability so seeing gary with Asperger making music like this is inspiring. iv always loved his old stuff. but his new music is different and unique, its like he got better with age.
Small detail: It's not a fact that Gary has Asperger. Gary deducting he has Asperger is not a medical diagnosis by professionals, but a conclusion he made himself - or so he claimed in an interview. A self-diagnosis is not really the same as real diagnosis.
Bart D'hoye just because you haven't been diagnosed doesn't mean that you don't have it or receive it as if you are permitted to with a Diagnosis. I can tell he has Aspergers, I've noticed from his personality. I was diagnosed with Aspergers back in 2011 but I knew I had way before then.
Not being diagnosed or examined indeed doesn't mean you do not have it. It still is a possibility - but nothing more. But claiming you can decide 'on his personality' without having a medical degree in psychology AND intensively examining the patient in close encounters that he has this disorder (or not), that is just bullshit - even if you have it yourself. I have been diagnosed with another kind of 'disorder' - in English it would be called savantism for lack of better word - this does not give me the ability to diagnose others since I don't have the needed experience or training to do so.
That is complete bullshit statement,because Psychiatry is NOT based on any actual science or medical science. It is simply a bunch of personal opinions about un-provable theories, which are not even really theories, but hypothesis. There is ZERO actual science behind it, it's opinions about opinions and nothing more. As such ANYBODY can diagnose anybody including themselves and that opinion is just as accurate as that of any psychiatrist. It really doesn't matter how many degrees one has or how much experience one has when there is NO ACTUAL SCIENCE involved.
Still, I prefer someone that actually studied the field and has a lot of experience with the different types of disorders to make the diagnosis - an educated guess is a lot better than an uneducated one - especially since many of those disorders are treated with medicines that can be harmful and/or addictive.
Still making bangers at 60+... we dont deserve you Gary, but we are certainly thankful for you.
Couldn’t agree more. Been listening to him since I was 14, I’m 47 now. He still has influence on my music to this day.
Absolutely 💯🎶 👍😎!
He's fucking 60? Dude must be a vampire
@@xpert_domination198 he does have a great hair piece
100% we don't deserve him, mate
He's 66 and still putting out amazing music 😮... Legend 🤘
I'm 65........ I was there through the whole, punk, New Wave scene etc.... I bought the first album by Gary...... I hope he hangs on to his youth long enough to keep pumping them out, for a long time..... and I hang on to mine long enough to still appreciate it......
This was over 8yr ago But ! yes love it!!
@@lovejago - he's still touring and HE'S SO GOOD. Saw him at Cruel World last year and HOLY SHIT. There some great acts, and he wasn't even who I went to see (no disrespect), but HE BLEW EVERYONE OUT OF THE FUCKING WATER. It was so good.
@@JimHancock just turned 60 . and been a massive fan since day 1 . Tubeway army days . and yes i still listen and i still love the music .
Amazing may be stretching, it is a banger. A time and place. Came from mighty boosh and now the tube is showing me tiny desk Paramore.
Gary Numan killed it opening for Ministry.
@@HerAeolianHarp yes, Al jourgenson > Gary numan, ministry is more successful.
They were at The District in Sioux Falls a year ago!
I saw tour in Charlotte nc. It was like dieing going to heaven!!!
Gary Numan and Ministry....dang.
Seattle
True story. I was near the entrance to Disneyland in Calfornia, the evening of Sat. Dec. 23, 2022. And I saw him with his wife and oldest daughter. I recognized him, and called his name. His wife turned around and then he did. And it blew me away. I was lucky enough to chat with him for a few minutes and took three selfies. I remember asking his daughter if she knew how cool he was. She had headphones on and Gary said "She is probably listening to my music". Super nice guy and humble too. It made my year, as I am a big fan of his. First saw him in the 1980'sl, and 3 times in the last 6 or 7 years. He is a pioneer in the field of electronic music and very underrated and under-appreciated. He should be in the Rock Hall of Fame, but those a-holes have about a 20 year backlog to catch up on. Happy New Years to all music lovers out there!
Gary -family actors were added to Disneyland in 2020. (People were tired of talking to Goofy.) We're glad you enjoyed the "experience."
😯Whoa! How cool is that?! Thx for sharing!
just let the man enjoy disneyland.
@@01011010ANOMALY The picture I have of him and his wife with me speak otherwise. They both enjoyed talking to a true fan.
He saved my life- his music I was inspiration for an 18 year old soldier, in a job i had no preparation for (field artillery forward observer). Made me think there was something more out there. At a time i needed it. He is an older brother an mentor, and a muse.
iS IT JUST ME, OR IS THIS SONG FRICKIN AWESOME??!!
Oh, its definitely just you, all these comments and all the likes are pure sarcasm.
I just popped a hernia. And you are paying my medical bills.
Nope not just you.40 years ago I bought are friends electric. My first eve record. I'm so pleased he's back as great as ever
Gary Numan is awesome.
@@S2Viana loool
Living legend. There is no more to be said. He has shaped pop/electronic/rock for more than 4 decades.
Seriously. I got stoned listening to The Pleasure Principle 44 years ago. Or whatever 1980 was lol
Video has some real cool Fallout vibes!
Good call, this track is amazing I like CARS too ....a Golden Oldie !!! Rob🤗
this guy's been consistently great for four decades.
Geoff Balme funny thing that even he would argue about "consistent" part.
U R so right!!!
Youre sure of this???
Errr, no he hasn't...
Nah he hasnt. I was a massive Numan fan in the 80s and stopped listening in the early 90's because he started putting out crap, and he admits himself he lost his way. Even now whilst his career is well and truly on track his music does nothing for me, all just sounds the same to me. He is obviously doing something he likes, and lots of fans clearly like it, but I imagine theres a fair few of us from the 80's that cant relate to his current style. Nothing wrong with that, its evolution.
Criminally underrated
Right? You know what though being underrated isn’t so bad we can enjoy it without ass clowns ruining it by commercializing it and over playing it. Ever hear a song you like and it becomes commercialized and you just want to slam a flat screen upside their heads for ruining the sacredness of it?
lol Gary Numan has been critically acclaimed for decades. He is many things, but underrated is not one of them
Yes yes yes
I just heard this on the latest episode of South Park (S25 E05) & thought "This is GOOD!" I Spotified it and was pleased to find it was by Gary Numan whose work I adored 40 years ago. This is the best new song (to me) that I have heard in a very long time. Just awesome! I now have to listen to the rest of this album & some more recent work! A huge thanks to Gary for this. Again, just awesome...
Bruh
It's VERY Depeche mode. I love it!!
If you like this, you'll also like "I am Dust" which appeared in an episode of the short-lived but brilliant cop show "Almost Human."
@@Archpope Excellent recommendation, thanks! Also love The Promise! Still catching up...
@@augustschweigeryt559 Depeche Mode and Gary Numan have/had a very similar career trajectory - start out with a little bit of radio-friendly pop, then go full alternative once they've made a name for themselves. I can dig that energy.
Love that his real life daughter is in this, she’s angelic. Great song.
When I saw her in this video I thought she was an actress,she has that face you just kind of reocgnise and don't.
Toy Soldier Ken Persia
Toy Soldier Ken Such a fantastic video! Been a Numan fan since I did my own solo violin Numan covers live back in 1979...
i was thinking she had some of his features lol.
YES !! THAT HIS REAL DAUGHTER !!
Thank you Trey and Matt for this in the new episode. Such a good song!
Wow southpark leading us to good music
Yeah, good fucking episode and great song.
@@Ehxx one of those classic episodes
Completely obsessed with this song and album now. Thank you South Park.
Bruh
In the world of modern music he is a solid gold bar in a field of lead chaff.
I'm honestly really impressed by this. A lot of old artists hang onto their old sound, trying to remake their 70s or 80s sound when they don't have the strength or voice. Instead, Gary Numan has embraced modern electronic music and made something that sounds brand new.
Cody Cromarty that's because he has real talent. Most artists just get lucky with 2 or 3 good songs then try to repeat their success. Real talent evolves regardless of the artists age.
Absolutely, one of the best things i´v e discovered in 2018! His late 3 albums... jesus of the electrónica!
@@andressernaisaacs5558 definitely! I plan on going to see him in DC next month.
yea but i bet if you ask mr reznor who is someone who inspired your sound i bet gary numan is at the top of that list
I saw them both play together in London
so yeah BRAINWASHED79 nailed it
No wonder Trent Reznor has so much respect for Gary. Genius breeds another genius.
Black Ops 2 main theme hits hard af, knew I recognized the nane Trent R.
Good comparison, I hadn't thought of it
Like NOBODY ever was
Positive proof, that a true artist just continually improves his craft.
Straight up truth!
Stephen Mann not really
My Favorite band of all time is NiN, i love the way he and Trent Reznor play off each other.
She's his daughter Persia.
new NIN, new Numan, and Conduit Closing's Missteps III.
What a great year for dark, dark music.
His autobiography is a worldie, absolutely brilliant...I've nothing but respect for the man.
Just bought it to read too 😊 and it starts already good, imagining him really saying what he wrote 💞 one of the kindest humble man in the world 🙏❣more attractive the older he gets 🥰
I'm starting to think that all the musicians from the greatest 80s era, got so frustrated with how crappy music is today, so they decided to come back and do it the right way once more.! Welcome back Gary Numan!
Totally.
You hear this and figure he keeps his head in the sand musically as much as you do, you jaded old fart?
(who is probably younger than me)
This is obviously inspired by todays electronica sounds. He's openly a fan of modern beep boops and your just bitter.
today's music is good, you just have to look for the right artists. yes, there's shitty rappers, but a lot of new indie bands are amazing. for example, the duo IC3PEAK has this songs feel. you're just some bitter boomer who can't deal with the fact the world is changing lmao
@@aaka333 David Bowie was really into Death Grips. Very few musicians from the "golden age" dislike modern music. Great music is everywhere, you just need to look past the top 40 for once.
I'm about to turn 62...to me this kind of music never gets old...😎
wise words...(am 61)
Grand parents are cooler now since the 80s
@@Heliocentric It depended, my grandparents were kids in the 20's and 30's but they were kind of cool, so I heard a lot of very cool stuff I'd have never heard, old Nina Simone works, Jazz standards from the era and the shit you'd hear in old bootleg liquor establishments. My one sister on the other hand was born in '72 and listened to the most boring pop crap you could imagine, and gospel...like Amy Grant...there's badass music from every era, and there's absolute crap in every era, for every one person listening to Numan, Skinny Puppy, The Future Sound of London, Violator era Depeche Mode and Einstürzende Neubauten there were 500 drooling over the likes of Tiffany or other such bubblegum pop shit...
The real trick? Finding the people, of any era, who had their ear to the ground and liked what wasn't playing on the top 40's stations...that includes today, there's so much amazing, kickass music today it's breathtaking...you just don't hear it in the Billboard hot 100...actually, it's the foreign market I've been really listening to lately...Japan, the Ukraine and so on...stuff like Ningen Isu, Jinjer, Asterism, 88kasyo junrei, Unleash The Archers and so on are all just fucking epic
@@Heliocentric im gona b 55 on 18 10 19 and still enjoyin numan lol
AMEN!
Just discovered this track, I am totally obsessed with it!
The rest of this album rocks
@@jameslangley-yc6ogGet Splinter, it's awesome.
NoYou can't help it,it's very catchy, I go listen to Death and black metal, but always find my way back
I Love the Dark Synth Wave of this song. No one send me here, but it's awesome
It seems Gary Numan can't be stopped. He just keeps getting better.
And, he has the potential of having a dynasty after him.
Uh huh. Where's he been for 30+ years?
@@OMGWTFLOLSMH Where have YOU been for the last 30+ years? He's been quite prolific, in fact.
i second this
Like fine wine grows with maturity
Interviewer: Do you feel detached from the music you made early on in your career?
Numan: A little bit, yes. I do. I can’t imagine how you would feel connected to something you wrote 35, 40 years ago. Even if you’d had a fairly boring life, age alone would make you feel like a different person. The only connection that remains is what those songs did for you, how they thread through your career.
From a creative or emotional point of view, they’re like the vaguest of memories. You listen to these songs, which were essentially teenage tantrums, and it’s difficult to relate to the angst that bothered you then. It’s like looking back at old film of you as a kid: it’s nearly always embarrassing.
From Huckmag - 2017
I feel that. Even when I found e mails or message I wrote to someone 10 or 20 years ago, I feel like it was someone else and ask myself how is it possible I wrote that, bad or good. With regard to us, as public, fans or just consumers of any art it's different, we always connect for example, some song to some event or feeling, not all, but lot of music we listen after decades, it means feeling was strong ( feels~good~man )
Why does Gary bother to play these songs live anymore, then? Because they are the building blocks that have made him the truly great artist that he is today, and indeed has always been. Songs such as Cars, She's Got Claws etc. define him, and they cannot be dismissed as juvenile attempts at songwriting - right from Down In The Park, Are 'Friends' Electric? etc., he created a brand-new sound of incredible depth and maturity, and though of course he has moved on from those early years, those songs sound as fresh and full of unique imagery as they ever did and remain as testament to his great and highly original songwriting skills, in my humble opinion. Let The Machines rock!!
What I find amazing, is that when he sings Cars live now, it sounds even better than when he first released it.
Yeah I would be like...wait...that was me?!?!? Wth was I going through? Ahh yes....
Dear god man. This song is amazing. I would watch an entire feature length film or a full series based on this song alone.
The theme for these songs were from a 'Dune like' book he was writing, not sure if he ever finished it
the entire album is conceptual, that is nothing new for gary. listen to the album, that is your feature length with your imagination as projector.
There's a book called: My Name Is Red, it's really good. It doesn't have to do with this song, but it almost feels similar in * words eughk can't find them *
Savage is actually a concept album which basically tells the whole story from beginning to end if you listen to it in order. And yes, it is a great plot that would definitely make an interesting film/series.
there is something so deeply primal about this video, from the music to the imagery to his eyes and posture being somewhere between hunter and ruler to her eyes and composure being like a meek and beautiful trusting little lamb. i can't be the only one who sees this. but Newman is a bloody genius for all of it
He's performing at a Bowie level, decade after decade. His album releases over the last dozen years or so are some of his all time best. Inspires me to keep going with my creative efforts. Thank you Gary!!
Gary is greater than Bowie
Sorry.
@@Heliocentric Just comparing his creative output to Bowie. Both are amazing. If you like Gary better, I understand completely.
I damned near typed the same thing.
Hardly. He’s nowhere near Bowie’s level.
Bowie no way 😂😂😂
My name is Gary
My name is Numan
Friends are electric
Lookin young I don't age
Cause I'm no longer human
Nice lol
Doesn't quite scan.
I always knew that way back when
genius
that is that best comment i have seen in months. I have met gary, we talked about his hatred for techno music.
Why has it taken me three years to hear this track. Amazing.
Me, too!! It's f amazing to say the least. I am impressed, and thankful we got some real music still around.
I just remebered it after a year or two of not hearing it, it's fantastic!
I resisted this because I didn't want it to suck. But I could have been listening to this for years now..f@ck.
Same it's been in my recommendations since then but never really clicked on it
Word, same for me.
this song deserves to get more recognition
Gary is at the top of his game here and that is extremely impressive at age 60. The sound is off the hook and his ability to put his personal stamp on this genre now in 2018 is amazing. He looks great, sounds awesome and is totally killing it.
AMEN !! :-)
His voice hasn't deepened that much and weakened with waning lungs, like so many of us as we sing and age...he very nearly sounds the same (I said very nearly) as he did on "Are Friends Electric" and "Cars." Think Joni Mitchell's young voice in the late 60s VS now...that should help with perspective! :-)
@Yuri Fyodorov He sure looks it doesn't he? We should all be so lucky.
@Yuri Fyodorov He's not. I'm not even that young, and I was a kid in the 70's when he was making music. He does looks good.
Trent Reznor needs to get it together.
I spent 23 years in the U. S. Army. 15 years ago I was in Iraq. 10 years ago, I was in Kosovo. Tonight's the first time I heard this song... I've got too many demons haunting my dreams - this song may help me exorcise a few more of them and let me sleep a little better tonight.
Gary Numan - this old vet thanks you for writing this song and letting the world hear it.
I have been sad 4 days over your comment. I know, you don't forgive yourself. I know you think God cant forgive you. I know your think you can't tell people what you have been thru or what sins you have done. Mercy is the first casualty of war. But I forgive you. And fuck God if he doesn't . My god forgives you. In your next reincarnation i pray may you become mother Teresa or siddhartha budda. Your 7/8 there already my friend , you just don't know it yet.... hag on like a kitty on a tree branch, the world needs you here. Your tomorrow begins at sunrise.....
Write Mr. Numan and tell him.You might just find your share some common demons.
Me 2
God bless you sir, for your service and help to our country
Thank you from the 82nd
I feel like a complete dumbass for not realizing Numan is still around and making great music.
Better late than never. 🤘
Time to wake up neo.
Kind of envy you honestly. You have lots of great catching up to do.
Same here. I looked up the song cars on spotify and then checked out his discography and saw so many albums! I was curious about what his newer (2000 and up) stuff would sound like and it blew me away! I'm a HUGE NIN fan and feel silly that I barely knew Gary at all. Actually that's an understatement. I knew 2 songs of his and didn't even know his name until 2 days ago!!!!!
Check out his What's In My Bag episode. Comes across as a really humble, grateful dude
gary numan has been making absolute bangers for 31 years, what a legend he is
Closer to 50 years. First hit was in ‘79 I believe.
@@The_ZeroLine god damn, that just made him a bigger legend
Amazes me... from Cars to this song... he still has that same beautiful but haunting voice. Will NEVER be another like him.
Only one word works ... LEGEND!
Lunar Wolf ... indeed!
always LEGEND........!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Persia is incredible. While all her contemporaries are dreaming of instant X Factor fame and fortune, she's doing something very cool and extremely credible. Go girl!.... and some quality parenting right there, Mr Numan.
This song would fit in with a Mad Max movie.Awesome song from Gary with Persia his daughter.
The whole Savage album is actually based on an apocalyptic dystopian Mad Max style novel Gary had been trying to write for years. Eventually he just turned it into a concept album instead! If you know the basic plot outline and listen to the album in order, it gives you the full story in musical form! (And yes, it would make a great movie done right)
i think it would fit well in any nuclear apocalypse movie/video game/tv show.
I agree, if not for DUNE THREE, then a new, upcoming MAD MAX movie🙂.
Or a John Wick movie too!
Bruh I'm playing the mad max game right now.
Perfect for walking through an empty city street during the pandemic. It's almost a bit surreal working nights while NYC is on lockdown.
Stay safe.
Jesus christ Jason Bourne
*_FOLLOWING UP TO SEE IF YOU'RE OK AFTER ALL THE PEACEFUL PROTESTS YOU HAD._*
*_PLEASE RESPOND SO I KNOW YOU'RE OK._*
Even better when you have it on with headphones wandering around the same desert avoiding people. ua-cam.com/video/IYv5rXfFPJ0/v-deo.html
Yep
I never gave this song's lyrics much thought at first but if you've had life experiences where other people force you into an "outsider" role and project bad things on you because of your differences from them, you "get it". Gary Numan definitely does.
Yup. I'm one of them. - _-
It's amazing how many songs can do that. I like this one.
This is the perfect theme song for Trump.
@@Myusernamerulez wandering the scorched earth in complete ruin, darkness and sorrow would be a fitting judgement to place upon him. Truly poetic.
@@user-Tn2Dn Idiots don't deserve poetry (because they don't understand metaphor and lack imagination)
An honest man helping us enjoy his world.
He'said made a lot of Kilowatt friends over the years .
This is not my first introduction but South Park made me realize he’s still making music. Gary’s one of those acts I thought I’d missed out on because I wasn’t old enough. Glad he’s still going.
I'm a huge Numanoid, and im just really happy that the creators of South park used this song in the latest episode. ❤️🔥
That's what brought me here. As soon as I saw artist name I remembered his song "cars" from GTA Vice City
Exactly! Heard the rift in the beginning in the episode, Shazammed that bad boy and now I’m obsessed! LoL . Trying to figure out how to make my PUBG character look like Gary in this video
Bruh
@@z1n53r check out him singing Cars live with the band NIN
I also found out :) Killer song.
Can't stop playing this, very powerful music!
I believe u BRO...
@@chilemachinexd5040 I love this song too- so powerful. It's on a par with Are "Friends" Electric?. This tune will be a future classic and having Gary's daughter singing as well, makes it more special. Does she still sing with Gary though?
HELL TO THE YES. He still has the edge.
greater sword edge than ever, these are oiur marching songs to victory ,,,tan army djt jan 20, 2025
He'said the king of synthpop . Always will be .
Best song I've heard in 2024. Gary carrying the whole of the music industry on his back.
Gary Numan....the man who seems to stay 100 years ahead musically
and age 100 yrs slower..🤔
I look very different fr the boy I was in 1978.
@@ALSILVERU2 yep I dont look like the teen in the 80s or the 20 something I did in the -90s
Good stuff and a cameo from his daughter too.
The apple doesn't fall too far from the tree.
So awesome his daughter singing background! Well done!
Gary had to come out of retirement to show this generation how to music,thank you gary.
Yeps
Lol...he never retired.
Have you even seen his discography.
Moron.
@@johncitizen3108
Was that last word your signature?
Yeah, Gary Numan never retired. You just stopped listening.
I have a an entire shelf of Numan Studio albums.
You’ve got several decades of music to catch up on.
Enjoy.
@@garboil you're right he did not... he married his soul saviour and kept kicking arse
Why can’t stuff like this be played on the radio... 😭
...because the radio stations cater only to 'aficionados' of autotune, generic, uninspired corporate-created crap that honestly, is offensive to me to even call it 'music' - not sure what is worse - being chased by a serial killer in some godforsaken backwoods, or listening to today's radio 'music'. Hmm, methinks the serial killer is actually a more palatable outcome......
It depends where you live, midwest and south= country and religious
East coast= alt rock, rap
West coast= latin, rap, r&b, political (rage against, greenday, etc)
Honestly i heard this play this kind of stuff play on college radio.
Plus i wouldnt be surprised if some music publishers pay some stations to play music that would otherwise be overlooked.
It would wake people up
Screw radio
I DIDNT THINK IT WAS POSSIBLE TO BE SO BLOWN AWAY BY HD DESERT SHOTS BUT HERE I AM
I love that his daughter digs his music as much as we do ❤❤❤
Is that her in the video doing backing vocals as well? If so she's got a beautiful voice ❤
This is incredible...how is he not the biggest star in the world??!
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I was asking myself this last night at his incredible concert last night @ Irving Plaza. I didn't explore his songs after the overplayed "Cars", until recently. I am am catching up now.
LMAO
Speak for yourself. To some of us, HE IS.
Gary Numan, so incredibly underrated. Fantastic work by an equally fantastic artist. Thank you Gary.
Jim Brice i grew up in Wraysbury nr Windsor/Staines UK, Gary grew up there too, his first job was baggage handler at Heathrow Airport, so close to us. His Mum and Dad encouraged his musical career, thank goodness they did, he is a talented man, his wife Gemma was instrumental to getting his musical career on track. The UK press were negative from the start, playing the “rich kid card”. Gary you, Gemma and your girls are fn awesome xoxox
@@elliepond5984 Thank you for this story. I appreciate it. I am quite thankful for Gary and his work, and now thankful to his parents and wife. His girls are certainly awesome.
He has NEVER been underrated !
In the USA... I think he has. All anyone knows here is Cars. He is so much more than that.
@@humanblacklight Yes he is.Music changes all the time , in fact I dont call it music anymore, its shit lol.Gary brought this electro to the scene synts & such.He does have a huge following in Europe.I a glad hes still with us and doing music.Peace man.
Possibly the best Numan video ever. The song is great and Persia is a star in the making.
Numan and Daughter owning it like no other.... Keep sharing the gifts.
Groundbreaking and NEVER more important. Gary Numan is a seminal artist. It's difficult to overstate his artistry or sociological insight. Been listening for 30 years and will ALWAYS be grateful for this art.
He's truly gifted. Obviously, still going at it and making hits after all these years.
@@akiramenai4973 he’s a huge influence on me after listening to him for 33 years. He’s amazing
@Jeremy Horne yeah I’m curious what exactly was meant by that. Sounds like some pseudo intellectual wanna be stuff.
God damn I can't believe he's still making dope music. I remember buying his cassette in like 84
Persia - u r fabulous. Beautiful voice. Brilliant. Well done. Your daddy just gets better and better. Xxxxx.
'i knew I'd always find my way to you..'
& I did! I seen Numan live a few weeks ago and he was outstanding! Musical genius. 👏🎶🖤
You guys remember when VH1 called Gary numan a one hit wonder? Now we all wonder wtf happened to VH1
Ouch ouch ouch ouch ouch ouch ouch ouch ouch ouch ouch ouch ouch......well said
Vapid Hubris 1 :p
whats a "vh1" some kind of corona variant?
@@ravensnflies8167 something that was last relevant in the time of VHS
Holy shit. Did that actually happen?
Kinda off-topic. We used to have a music store over here in the UK that put all of Nine Inch Nails' music under nu-metal... Come on. When The Fragile came out they classed them as "nu-metal Gods"... People really don't have a fucking clue at times. I think the were called MVC, Music, Video, Cassette. Lasted as long as a rancid fart in the wind.
As for Gary Numan, I saw him play in Southampton last year. Easily one of the best shows that I've ever seen live! Really looking forward to Intruder, and catching him live again. This guy is relentless. Strength to strength.
I don't know if you've heard of Jayce Lewis? If not, I highly recommend.
I seriously can not get enough of this track!
MrVladGavius I love this song
Perfection!
MrVladGavius I can't get enough of this song either. It's just fucking amasing.
I know what you mean.
it is truly an epic level of greatness
One of the most underrated artists of the New Wave era.
Gary has always deserved to be in any music hall of fame!!
Excellent vid. Numan and Persia look great
Ragedity arsed looking piece of real estate. Is that Washington DC post Trump?
Fucking Iraq not Persia.
@Chilli Roach
1. It was filmed in Southern California.
2. Persia (girl in vid/backing vocals) is his daughter's name
Filmed in Wonder Valley, CA near Joshua Tree, CA
His daughter already has a huge, powerful voice to be so small. I can't wait to see what she will do when she is older.
The girl in this video is his daughter?
Yup. Persia
It's up to her what she does with her future, but I really hope she becomes a musician, someday. :) Gary, himself, said that she has the talent for it.
@@reeses_unicorn True, it is up to her if she wants to pursue that. If she does, she has the talent and a very important person as her father who could help steer her through the pretty grimy world of the music industry.
@@dacypher22 Keep in mind this is the studio recording and her voice was layered multiple times with effects to make it sound like it does. I have no doubt she's a good singer, but that "huge, powerful voice" had some help.
My Dad showed me Gary’s music when I was a little girl and were finally going to see him in concert 💯 True talent has no expiration date
Timeless....I'm back in the 80s. Gary still has it in shed loads.
He'd still be singing about cars if this was 80's shit. This> 80s
HOLY SHIT. !!! Just found this. Wondering what happened to him since I heard cars in the 80's. This is fantastic.
You're in for a treat, his last few albums are fantastic!
i thought he was a one hit wonder with only cars
He’s been making epic music for years!!!!
Haha see listen to his lyrics
Do yourself a favor. Listen to Hybrid (2002) forward.
Excellent new 2017 tune from Gary Numan and his daughter, Persia (harmonizing so well together). Deserves to be a big hit!
Malcolm Patterson Can you believe that he is technically, at least In the US a one hit wonder? It would be great that nearly 40 years later, he finally gets another one.
# 1 in the US and UK singles chart . 2 million copies sold .
#2 in the UK albums chart. Crazy stuff. It's a brilliant album though. Can't wait to see Numan live in a few days!
Old Gary lost his magic way back in 1980 after the Telekom album. The rest after that is 💩
OMG...Amazing! Persia is so beautiful!
What is it with thus guy? His arrangements send frickin' tingles up my spine.
Gary does NOT age. He has been a symbol of the future his entire career...
He doesn't age because he's electric 🤘
@@remkojerphanion4686 Or maybe its because everyday he dies. ( I've loved that song my entire life ).
Gary Numan is on another level of AWESOMENESS!!!
Uh....this is one of the most brilliant, uniquely crated songs I've heard in a long, long time. Wow...just WOW.
Gary Numan still groundbreaking 44 years on...
Groundbreaking? Trent Reznor would like a word.
Awesome. I love that Gary and his daughter got to do this project together. It is magical.
I never thought that 36 years after high school I'd become a huge Gary Numan fan. Loved the Cars song at the time but have really discovered his brilliance now.
Gary at his very best and teaching Persia the ropes at the same time. Looking forward to the release of the Album.
I am 62 and just found out about Gary Numan - very late to the party. This is well beyond awesome. Incredible stuff.
Amazing! Gary Numan and Chris Corner (video director, photography and editor) never deceive. Excellent work.
Wow I didn't know that! But while watching this strangely suddenly I AM X came to my mind...
Less than 5 seconds in & I thought exactly the same thing. 'I Come With Knives' immediately sprang to mind. I love Chris Corners work. Great music, great visuals, a great artist!
Yes, a very IAMX-like video. You definitely can see who was behind the camera.
Yeah, I came with knives and North Star essences :)
Totally. "I am dust" was also directed by Chris Corner...
Thank you Gary for never losing your hardcore...
LYRICS:
When they called me broken, I knew
When they called me evil, I knew
When they called me ruin, I knew
I would always find my way to you
When I begged forgiveness, they knew
When I begged for mercy, they knew
When I begged for nothing, they knew
I would always find my way to you
My name is ruin
My name is vengeance
My name is no one
And no one is calling
My name is ruin
My name is heartbreak
My name is lonely
My sorrow's a darkness
My name is ruin
My name is evil
My name's a war song
I'll sing you a new one
My name is ruin
My name is broken
My name is shameless
I'll tear your world open
When I called you poison, you knew
When I called you shameful, you knew
When I called you liar, you knew
I would always find my way to you
I'll show you ruin
I'll show you vengeance
I'll show you no one
And no one is calling
I'll show you ruin
I'll show you heartbreak
I'll show you lonely
And sorrow and darkness
I'll show you ruin
I'll show you evil
I'll sing you a war song
I'll sing you a new one
I'll show you ruin
I'll show you broken
I'll show you shameless
I'll tear your world open
You dropped this bro 👑
My name is Tarquin im am the fishing boy i am the fin tail of the department!!!!🤡
Litany to innocent blood.
thnx for posting lyrics!
COOL STORY
The Middle Eastern vibes and flavors in his new stuff are just the best of the best. Not a hug fan of his older stuff, absolutely love the 2 newest albums.
Gary Numan is 10 years and 10 days older than I, proving I still have plenty of time left to remain badass
He's still older than Gary Oldman though.
@@chrisconlon7970 And far younger than Gary Acientman.
Been in this guy's pocket since the early 80's... Still doing it. Epic shit
I am obsessed with how amazing this is. Gary Numan keeps cementing his place in legend.
Up i7
Few people could have made a comeback so well in the same genre they founded. What a fucking electronic God.
ah the godfather whom my base code understanding of music was born from. we love your music Gary
Numan never fails us.
And by a comment like that you mean what exactly? come on now keyboard warrior, don't slide away just yet.
Oddly enough, 'Keyboard Warrior' describes Numan himself quite accurately.
Really real
Ha, he slid away, deleted his comment.
K L Ur right 💙💎
How does this not have more views? Still listening for 2 years now.
4.3million now
Ladies and gentlemen, the godfather of Industrial Rock
There's were a few good ones before him.
@@princeofcupspoc9073 True, but none had reached the level of success that he did at his height. Kraftwerk comes *close*, Ultravox comes *close*, but Reznor and Manson didn't cover them, now, did they :)
@@WolfWinter speaking of Reznor, I know this is pretty random, but Devo did a cover of Head Like a Hole. it's on UA-cam. find it and give it a listen. it's much better than you would expect it to be before you hear it
@@tedschroeders5289 Heard it, love it :)
Uhh not industrial but synth at start. Once he released Exile his style started to go dark and we have been loving every minute of it :)
Gary numan is a ground breaking artist from the UK
yup and he is no bleedin crybaby socialist like king chuckie is.
Coming to this from Are friend electric. Spine tingling. It's amazing how this man has stayed relevant for 40 years.
Saw these 2 perform the song live in Liverpool last night, very heartwarming and humbling, emotional experience man!
Jolly Good Feller I saw it aswell and I thought the exzactly same way
He's unstoppable, I've Loved his music for decades,his voice is so haunting!!!!
Shelley Trin
Shelley Trinh Gary always knew da wae.
Super 👌 Wspaniały Gary I jego córka ❤❤❤❤😊
Great song! Persia is awesome! Her voice compliments Gary's well. I think there should be more of this. Keep it up both of you!
This proves Gary is ahead of the game my god this vid was more then fantastic this vid needs to be seen by the whole world thanks Gary for making fantastic music fan from the very start.
This superb offering from Gary, loaded with atmosphere and haunting Eastern synthfluences, should have been a massive hit. There is little justice in this world, but Numan's legions of fans have remained staunchly loyal to him and at last he is enjoying the respect and recognition he richly deserves. Gary is still producing high quality material, and daughter Persia is now onboard enhancing his rich soundscapes. 👌🎤🎶🎹🎻
Nobody from the music generations that came before BS (before streaming) are allowed on the charts. This song is great. I only heard it today on a south park clip. 😳😳😳
@@Lee.Higginbotham same came from watching thag clip of south park
I know him from cars. Was at a festival yesterday and having no other person I knew playing I stayed for Gary. Heard this. WHAT THE FUCK JUST HAPPENED…that shit was so crazy, and live he delivers it at the same or ever greater level than the audio/video. At 65. HOW? I pray I’m as cool as Gary in my later adult life.
This
Simply
Is
Art.
I have a learning disability so seeing gary with Asperger making music like this is inspiring. iv always loved his old stuff. but his new music is different and unique, its like he got better with age.
Small detail: It's not a fact that Gary has Asperger. Gary deducting he has Asperger is not a medical diagnosis by professionals, but a conclusion he made himself - or so he claimed in an interview. A self-diagnosis is not really the same as real diagnosis.
Bart D'hoye
just because you haven't been diagnosed doesn't mean that you don't have it or receive it as if you are permitted to with a Diagnosis. I can tell he has Aspergers, I've noticed from his personality. I was diagnosed with Aspergers back in 2011 but I knew I had way before then.
Not being diagnosed or examined indeed doesn't mean you do not have it. It still is a possibility - but nothing more. But claiming you can decide 'on his personality' without having a medical degree in psychology AND intensively examining the patient in close encounters that he has this disorder (or not), that is just bullshit - even if you have it yourself. I have been diagnosed with another kind of 'disorder' - in English it would be called savantism for lack of better word - this does not give me the ability to diagnose others since I don't have the needed experience or training to do so.
That is complete bullshit statement,because Psychiatry is NOT based on any actual science or medical science. It is simply a bunch of personal opinions about un-provable theories, which are not even really theories, but hypothesis.
There is ZERO actual science behind it, it's opinions about opinions and nothing more.
As such ANYBODY can diagnose anybody including themselves and that opinion is just as accurate as that of any psychiatrist. It really doesn't matter how many degrees one has or how much experience one has when there is NO ACTUAL SCIENCE involved.
Still, I prefer someone that actually studied the field and has a lot of experience with the different types of disorders to make the diagnosis - an educated guess is a lot better than an uneducated one - especially since many of those disorders are treated with medicines that can be harmful and/or addictive.