I'm glad T.O.P is back in the spotlight in a good way this time. Well, in America for sure. I hope his life keeps getting better. As someone who tried to do themselves in the same as he did my heart really goes out to him. ❤ And yes his only scandal was the pot. He was destroyed by Korean media and tried to kill himself. The media and fans then said he only did it to get sympathy. Its crazy- hes still getting bashed by them for being on Squid Game. Glad we dont feel the same way here!
same for you hater it was a big scandal but his only claim was that he was the owner and he disproved that so no he is not involved with the clubs case at all.
@pruitv1 omfg it was proven he was in those disgusting group chats! A chat with videos of WOMEN BEING GRAPED! It doesn't matter if he never did it to anyone himself, he ffing stood by and let women - his ffing club's CUSTOMERS - get graped! If you support him, you can go to hell just like him!
How TOP got treated after his "scandal" is truly shameful, especially after his own attempt on his life. Even now he's being treated like a criminal by korean media for that and that's why he refused for years to do anything in Korea. The girl that outed him is also very famous to shove celebrities under the bus at any given opportunity just for attention and it's a wonder that she is still free with all the substances she was caught with. Seungri instead is a shameless person. I have no words about that one, his shady business, and how he still got fans. It' true that the other members of Big Bang always treated him a little bit differently (and his fans say it was bullism, but cmon now...). GD had to monitor his messages, TOP was telling him to be careful about the people he was with, but that dude still tarnished the group and took no accountability for it.
@@Rabbitwarren_7 Yes, that's the same Han Seo Hee (not be mistaken with the actress Han So Hee). She also got involved with iKon, SHINee, RIIZE, several influencers and actors. She keeps getting charged for drugs but gets away every time with a slap on the wrist, it's ridiculous.
I agree with everything you said!!! But, what on earth is "bullism"??? I feel like everyday there is some new "woke" type word that they are trying to come up with, to make humanity seem even more deserving of an apocalypse... 🤦🏻♂️
@@xhyuck Is it true that she was his girlfriend at the time bc I honestly can't recall, I taught she was and she snitched bc they broke up or something, bc they said it was his ex
Yes, its just those few complete nutcases still trying to live in some alternate delusional universe. Unfortunately, there's enough of them to even pop up here and there in comments on YT, which I still find just absolutely insane...
Seungri's explanation about BBC video. The woman in the video is my friend of 10 years. It happened when we went in Busan with friends. We played rock-paper-scissors, and the loser had to ride peanut boat. My friend and i lost, but she didn't want to go, so i pulled her out. It was in a broad daylight with people around, how could that be something outrageous?
it isnt that media is one of the shadiest one ever and were bought to spread some new rumors around they cant even back up its just you foreign haters who believe them.
So true she even had the footage of him attacking that girl in public. Or the thing they did the night before a fan meet. She is so thorough. When she told him to have his attorney contact hers if she’s lying I was so shocked on top of the bbc also. She wanted ALL the smoke. All involved ruined so many lives and most just got away with it. So sad.
Nesto you should check out the Burning Sun incident. And what’s so disturbing and insane is that SK (not all) people will NOT forgive T.O.P. or Suga for their absolutely ridiculous “incidents “ yet SA is wow, just forgivable. There’s something seriously wrong with this thought process 😳
Yoongi & T.O. P couldn't be forgiven yet seungri I'd in Bali or whatever throwing more parties and dating multiple women at once! Grr. Out there just living his life. Rotten mango does an amazing job covering burning sun, but fair warning, it's rly long. But worth the watch! 💜
@AbisinyaPaul-m9v oh you would be surprised by the cult like OT5 stans in Korea that forgive seungri,and say ohh bigbang still support him which is SOO UNTRUE,and they will talk bad ab T.O.P &gdragon trying to compare them doing weed to that monster.I have argued with too many delusional ppl for me saying OT4 which will always be in my heart
@ I know. It’s absolutely ridiculous. I don’t understand the logic at all😳 Stephanie aka Rotten Mango does do a fantastic job but you’re right it is long. She does great with all of her deep dives. She’s as accurate as possible. She did a three or four part series on Diddy ugh🤮 but she did a great job with that as well. I think Nesto would like her as she’s just great and she also has her shorter and silly videos I love lol❤️
I will always support Big Bang as a 4 member group. As for Seungri, I am done with him. I have seen those texts they talked about. He seriously has no respect for anyone especially women. I will also continue to support each of the remaining four members in their solo careers as well.
meaning you dont support them at all and just want to use them for clout while being a hater they are 5 if you like it or not thats what bigbang themselves also say and if you had any respect for other women you wouldnt support false claims against innocent people because thats exactly what gives real victims a harder time to get justice.
I would not get information from unvetted sources. There are too much misinformation about the said events that got shared. I would get the actual court documents with the verdicts and not from social media.
What is even crazier, is that all members of Big Bang (especially G-Dragon and Taeyang) constantly called Seungri out in public settings. They kept it vague, but the fact they were talking about it says a lot.
Suchwita with Taeyang and Suga is very informative and good. Burning Sun was completely disgusting and their sentences were even worse nobody got any real time for what they did. The T.O.P. thing is ridiculous in America but in S. Korea you can't even smoke it in the USA because you'll be charged when you return home. I really love G Dragon and Taeyang, even though a reporter recently pushed him into a corner and started a fandom war on purpose. Watching on the TV, stopped in to comment. All the BTS guys have BigBang as their idols excluding the Burning Sun guy
@@mmmqua The reporter started the war with wrote "Taeyang said Big Bang paved the way". And then after Taeyang got attack on his social media, the reporter disclose what Taeyang said. Taeyang never claimed "Big Bang paved the way". Who can a group who never enter Billboard Hot 100 can paved other k-pop groups way globally? 🤣🤣🤣
@bimotok757 Nobody "Paved the Way". Each generation broke ground for the next one. First generation broke ground for BB's generation, who broke ground for BTS's generation, who broke ground for skz (or whomever you stan ) .
When you do the comeback, if it's not already done, make sure you do the complete performance, it's not just bang bang bang and fantastic baby, it starts with power and home sweet home 👍💜
Please watch the full 2024 MAMA performance which is 15 minutes, not the end part which is a bit of Bang bang and Fantastic Baby. The only truth about the documentary is the end where the members kept warning Seungri to not hang out with that bad crowd. Being the ringleader of the burning sun is lies. He did jail time for money laundering which is bad. The legal documents say he had no part in this, the victims said he had no part in it but yet haters want to believe the media and UA-camrs who want clicks. My question is who paid bbc to publish their recent article on the Burning Sun at the same time that G-Dragon was making a comeback? The real truth is in the legal documents. Just enjoy the music please and not get swept by haters who love to hate and remember that we’re here for the music not the drama. Thank you.
It was that psycho of Kim SangKyo i swear everything i have that it was that sick person😤.. He's so obsessed with BIGBANG in particular with Seungri.. I'll never forget his posts saying he'll destroy BIGBANG.. He's involved in politics it must be him😤
Oh right because court documents always state the absolute truth and never miss anything or get anything wrong. I respect big bang as artists and enjoy their music too but to think SG didn’t have any part of the burning sun scandal when he was so involved in the organization and there’s literally a video of him dragging a woman is being delusional. We can be here for the music too but also aware about someone who has done terrible things to women or even by your accord of him not being involved he knew exactly what was happening
@melisme27... Please enlighten us how in the world a person that was working in severals soloist projects like he was everywhere on variety shows(he even won an award for that in 2018) he was preparing his album writing, composing and filming.. releasing promoting and even on TOUR..how so busy like Seungri was that year being oart of the organization of a club that wasn't his club🙄???... I remind you Burning Sun was opened on April 2018 and closed on Jenaury 2019... the owner was Lee Sunghyun( not Seungri) , The CEO Moon... Seungri's company had 20% shares of Burning Sun.. Seungri alone had 8%...what he did for the club was promoted it and played as DJ occasionally to attract more clients since Burning Sun was a new Club.. Even other idols played as DJ the more highlighted was one of the GIRL GENERATION(she's a female idol so they didn't involve her but she was harassed for a while by haters)...please now tell me how Seungri could have noticed that the CEO was providing drugs in the club🙄???.. Cuz that's the only crime committed there by the club organization.. I remember the Police Officer interview he stated that there wasn't any sexual activities.. They investigated over 40 people and they only found videos recorded with cellphone by clients of the club in the girls bathroom those videos then were shared on a western online webside😤.. This was very disturbing but in that case the club staff could not know that was happened since seems the girls didn't noticed so didn't reported either😒... So please don't come st me telling me thst Seungri should have stopped something lije thst happened there like he wasn't evrn the owner and how in the world someone can think things like this happen in Clubs???.. Like at this point is better stsy at home and never get out😒.. Now tell me what misinformation did you eat it🤦🏻♀️????
I love G Dragon❤️ T.O.P. is in Squid Games 2. And yeah, omg he committed a catastrophic crime (lying about smoking marijuana). Hell he and Suga should be locked away for life😩 How freaking RIDICULOUS is that 😡 It is so ridiculous. T.O.P. Is awesome💜 And you know Suga is my king lol💜
already debunked as baseless fairy tales but you inetz love to use anything to jump on certain bandwagons and cry at famous people just because some "famous" youtuber said so who uses bots to support herself.
try blue phoenix he made real documentaries and even backed up everything that was already proven even back then even korean lawyers did the same during the scandal to keep everyone factually updated.
The subject of Seungri is touchy. You have those that support him and those who think he's the scum of the earth. First, I encourage everyone to do your research. If you know an international lawyer, especially in South Korea, ask them to review the case. It's helpful to speeak to someone who understands S. Korean laws. From my understanding, Seungri was never charged with SA. His legal problems stem from something separate from Burning Sun. People will argue against this. Research the legal documents. Seungri was found guilty of using his credit card to pay for s*x workers, guilty for lying on his business application and guilty for gambling in the US. Please do your due diligence and research. Not all resources are creditable. Please pay attention to the correct legal jargon. Don't make assumptions, ask questions and ask for legal clarification. If you believe in justice, you'll find the answers. Thank you for reading.
Burning Sun Is not about Seungri. It's about Kim Sang kyo, who was a convicted with sexual assault and obstruction of business.. It happened October of 2018 ,he was kicked out of the club because he was caught harrasing a drunk female costumer by the way it was caught on CCTV. And he wanted to make arevenged yo the club and make story another thr club class a whistle blower on December 2018... Seungri was never been the owner of the club,and the Club was cleared.
You are a brave dad and I really respecting your open mindset about different cultures and appreciation of KPOP. These BigBang Idols are all human beings/ persons who made/ makes mistakes in judgement and trusting people. Sadly, Koreans do not believe in second chances, thus pushing their idols to commit suicides when caught in any conflict or controversies. By far, and historically BigBang music are “avant gard “ and most enjoyable. No auto tune and poetically written lyrics. I will caution you to enjoy it much just by yourselves as most armies does not recognize BigBang music as superior as BTS. Only the BTS army Elites appreciate and hold a light to BigBang members since these are BTS members idols. Take care and may your love for KPOP flourish and keep you entertained. ☺️✌🏻peace to all!!!
would you forgive someone who did those things like the burning scandal to you? or even knew about it? i would NOT so that is one thing you can´t forgive. the rest drunk driving and weed is forgivable, but when it involves hurting other people, like hit a person while drinking and driving, it´s a no go. what p-diddy did is also non forgivable either.
@@lealarsen2017 You are very right at the part with Sungri, and Diddy, too! But I don´t think Victoria meant this! She talked about the Fan base of BTS that sometimes don´t like, that ARMY´s watch other bands! Snd to forgive TOP, I guess!
Nobody is asking you to forgive Seungri. In fact, there are a lot of V.I.P.'s who don't. But don't condemn the other members just because of his actions.
Yes the comeback video is awesome and it only includes G-Dragon, Daesung & Taeyang. Bigbang was a huge inspiration for BTS you’ll hear them talk about it all the time…plus Jimin did the collaboration with Taeyang on his song Vibe, Yoongi had Taeyang on Suchwita & mentioned how much they all looked up to them & Jungkook has said several times how watching a G-Dragon performance made him decide to be a singer.
@@carograh okk this video is about bigbang so why you are here talking about bts and how bigband mean to them I dk that's so dumb you can appreciate you're fav but don't bring other's up
@MeryemOufakir-bd5ux.. Some people here do mention BTS because this youtuber is a BTS reactor and probably fan of them at this point...actually not all VIPs me included are happy to see this BIGBANG reactions since Armys are spreading misinformation everywhere in the comments sections🤦🏻♀️
@@bdcmxsyjds8935 thank you I am also a relatively new VIP so I’m repeating just what I’ve heard or seen so if I’ve ever said anything wrong y’all can correct me I’m not opposed to that but I don’t appreciate people like the one above just being nasty
The Fact that they say that Seungri owns the Burning Sun Clubs even though not makes them liars. Imagine him being accused of doing drugs and yet being negative from hair, armpit hair, urine and blood examination.
Thank you for being sincere and objective in your response. The history of BigBang is nuanced and it's clear you are being respectful of that. We fans of BigBang, VIP, can be very protective of 4 of the members. How any VIP can support Seungri after all the evidence at his trial is beyond me . But I completely support the female survivors of his and the other male "celebrities" horrific treatment. They should all still be in jail. However, Korean society is still very misogynistic and also very judgemental of drug use. In some ways it is changing thanks to the global exposure of the internet and the Hallyu Wave (KPOP, KDrama, and Korean Food) but not quickly enough. I hope that you receive positive feedback for your words. Many people do support T.O.P because we know the anxiety he suffered for years, that he was smoking wacky for more than recreational purposes, and that his "ex girlfriend" was known to be a drug dealer to the "stars" and she outed him for the sole purpose of escaping a prison sentence herself. After writing that apology letter, he overdosed on his anxiety medication and was in a coma for days. We VIP feared he would die for something that isn't even a crime now in my state. Thankfully, he recovered and now he's doing what he loves again, entertaining people. Let's hope that the Korean media and internet keyboard warriors can just let the man live his life in peace. Again, thank you for being supportive of our fandom. I hope you check out more BigBang. They really did change the industry in so many ways and all the other idol groups idolize them.
not the case at all but it shows that you only follow channels who are known for spreading lies all day while everyone who was in sk even once can confirm that this is not true.
BLUE phoenix is a rightbsource with all the legal reference for Seungri case.... Hope your all are not stvpid to believe on media, same people who tried to destroy Gdragon in 2023 with False Drug case... We learned what happened yo Seungri that's why we stand with GD... So hope you people do your research correctly ...
When you react to the MAMA performance, please make sure to watch the FULL PERFORMANCE! The one you showed us in your earlier video was only the second half. Plus, as you probably already know, Korean people are really harsh on idols and celebrities.. But if you watch MAMA full performance, you'll notice that people also have been waiting for them so much.
The woman who confessed about T.O.P's marijuana scandal, which happened in 2016. She admitted to smoking marijuana with him in June 2017, She in jail for spreading false rumors and causing trouble for other idols, drugs addict , not just T.O.P. She is considered a problematic person.
@@Xiierxyz96 finally... I wish SK would treat their artist as human beings... Cause like it's unfair to be attacked by these malicious rumors then boom even after you have proven yourself innocent the same people who were attacking you don't apologize, they don't attack the other people with the same energy... It's giving hypocrite and two faced, cause like these people are playing with people's lives and they get away with it.
Fame makes people think they are above the law. Ex: P Diddy- Trump etc., do I need to go on? ALL Drugs and Gambling are illegal in S. Korea EVEN if a Korean goes to Vegas and gambles, IT'S STILL ILLEGAL. A Korean cannot do drugs or gamble in any country even if legal in that country and if caught will be held liable in a court of law in Korea!
But you missed the part talking about the “scandal” of GD. In the military they were putting in risk his privacy, accusing him of special treatment that wasn’t like that.
Actually all the scandals were wrong except the Seungri scandal. GD was framed by his friend and accidentally used marijuana, TOP was framed by his girlfriend and has apologized. GD didn't get special treatment in the military, he got a different room because his roommates were spying on him, even the hospital staff where he was treated also wrote journals about him, it really invaded his privacy. Daesung has paid taxes according to the rules. He also didn't hit anyone because it was the car in front of him that hit the victim, even so he still compensated for the losses. When you reach the top, many people will bring you down, that's why other Big Bang members have warned Seungri to be more careful in choosing friends, but he chooses to continue committing crimes using his fame.
One of the reasons I think BTS has worked hard to stay out of trouble was that when they were still rookies, the GLAM scandal nearly destroyed the company. The only girl group that BigHit had ever debuted, GLAM, had a member that in 2014 was accused of blackmailing actor Lee Byung Hyun (now also in Squid Games!) with a compromising video. The member was eventually convicted of blackmail although she ended up not serving time because Lee Byung Hyun requested a suspended sentence instead. In any case, GLAM was disbanded and the BTS biography said the tanking of GLAM set the company back financially. So, those boys had a front row seat to what Find Out could look like in FAFO, and how many other people (like them) could end up being hurt along the way if they did anything stupid. I don't know if you have watched all of American Hustle Life, either, but there is an episode where they go to Skid Row with their mentors to hand out sandwiches, and even then they talked about how it brought home that basically anyone is one major screw up away from ending up on Skid Row, too. Especially with how unforgiving the Korean public is to entertainers. (I didn't even realize T.O.P. was in Squid Games this season because Korean media is STILL refusing to acknowledge him because of that 8 year old pot charge. He is cut out of photos and not named in Korean media, so I only realized he was even part of it when I saw a picture from Western press sources.) I loved Bigbang up until enlistment but Seungri really tainted everything for me with Burning Sun. There's a YG made comedy called YG Future Strategy Office on Netflix with him in it playing a 'fictional' version of himself and I remember a 'joke' where the Blackpink girls were making comments implying he was a creepy perv. So I figured that YG knew exactly what kind of person Seungri was but didn't take it seriously at all.
HONESTLY, of you want to know ANYTHING about Seungris case, read about it or watch Burning Sun How A Lie Was Born videos instead. Because truth is, nearly all of yhese channels tell nothing but lies and dont care about the truth just views
Yeah on the other video I got attacked for saying what I said about top and seungri the only thing said was how seungri got forgiven for his.crimes but top still gets criticized for smoking
yeah because everyone knows that their crimes were both minor ones while its only a few inetz with their unfortunate lifes who cant accept that and made up claims about seungri that they cant even back up.
I ask you to read the court documents, everything you want is there, if you don't do this, don't comment on his case. no evidence and no victim and no woman ever accused him of sa or anything else ,police just wanted scapegoat because in burning sun case ,the real criminals are those whom the police do not want to fight with ,I mean police doesn't have that much of power, there were bigger fishes in the game,in the court that held for seungri's case (this had nothing to do with the burning sun club or molka group chat ,he was not even summoned as a witness for the molka case )all the witnesses,they testified in his favor but the judge ignored all of them ,the interesting thing is that the judge of this case was immediately promoted.And these days, instead of studying the case, anyone can make someone else a criminal just by reading redit, we don't need a court anymore 🤔🙄
The Group BIGBANG is legendary. I will not let the mistakes of one tarnish my memory or love of the group for what they were. GD and TOP are two of my absolute favorite rappers of all time.
@AliCat1912 agreed!! I'm a diehard VIP, and I still enjoy their music so much. Seungri will not tarnish that for me. T.O.P is my favorite rapper of all time and his crime was stupid af. He doesn't deserve the hate he's getting
@@KRenieM I couldn't agree more. Like, I understand the cultural differences but the crap he went through because of it is actually insane. I mean, we almost lost one of the greatest rappers of all time because of it. And his apology, smh, you'd think he was on some hardcore stuff or something. He shouldn't have ever had to hold that level of shame and guilt. Man deserves better.
a documentary means having sources to back it up which she dont but i get it you haters pick what to believe so you can justify crying at famous people.
They think kpop just revolves around their idols only. Big bang is senior in the industry and they are immature kids who are disrespecting the senior 🙄
I hope you react to more bigbang and not videos focused on seungri :) ‘What happened to BIGBANG’ by InternetsNathan is a good video talking about their history
I’m a fan of BigBang from 2009 and it’s okay to cancel seungri (the one who have burning sun scandal) but T.O.P is having a big burden as an idol and what he’s doing is just smoking for himself. I’m happy that T.O.P came back ❤
Morning from Singapore… I love BB but that “who shall not be named”, I don’t like him… From the start I don’t like him… He seems really dodgy to me… The other 4 members’ scandals; personally, I think it’s personal struggles to fame… TOP (squid game dude) he was under so much pressure that he almost overdosed on sleeping pills after the joint incident😢… I am furious at “the one who shall not be named” for all the crap he did which affected the rest of the members… Too deep a trench to dig into right? But BB came out with really good music… MADE album is dope… give a listen… now other VIPs are just waiting for TOP to get back to his group when he is ready… OT4… 💜
Why are you saying lies🙄???... It wasn't Seungri who tried to ruin BIGBANG🙄.. It was sensational Kmedia if you are VIPs you might remember how kmedia was after every of them starting from Seunghyun then Jiyong not giving him a calm day, kmedia was everyday sharing stuff about GD at his military service they even hired someone to take pictures of GD body while he was in his service🙄... Dont forget how kmedia lied about Seungri being the LEE in the group Chat when actually it was LEE JUNHYUNG not Lee Seungri🙄... Or when Kmedia spread lies about the criminal activities in Daesung building🙄.. Use your brain and point your finger in the right direction🙄
Why are you saying lies🙄???... It wasn't Seungri who tried to ruin BIGBANG🙄.. It was sensational Kmedia if you are VIPs you might remember how kmedia was after every of them starting from Seunghyun then Jiyong not giving him a calm day, kmedia was everyday sharing stuff about GD an his military life that even hired someone to take pictures of GD body while he was in his service🙄... Dont forget how kmedia lied about Seungri being the LEE in the group Chat when actually it was LEE JUNHYUNG not Lee Seungri🙄... Or when Kmedia spread lies about Daesung and the criminal activities in his building🙄.. Use your brain and point your finger in the right direction🙄
I am happy that T.O.P. is back though, in my eyes, his scandal shouldn't be taken so seriously considering that a lot of the world today uses weed for medical purposes.. He has however stated that he doesn't want anything to do with his former members and group, to which I can understand :/ He wants a clean slate and it feels good seeing him active again.
Thank you for taking time to look into their scandals for yourself. I love BigBang and will continue to support the 4 members whole heartedly. I support them as they are human and have apologized and tried to make amends for their errors. As an american, ive seen our celebrities and policitans do far worse and be held to less accountability than to what GD, Taeyang, T.O.P, and Daesung have. I refuse to acknowledge that piece of trash that was a part of them, but also recognize that he is still part of their past. SA is disgusting, and those that commit it, including using their power and influence to further it, are the lowest of low. He deserves to have been punished a lot more than what he was. As for the others, my heart had always hurt for them for being targeted for their drug scandals, but that is because i am an American fan and several of our actors and singers have done and used way more than grass (TOP) or accused of using it in G-Dragons case. The pressures, criticisms and vitriol theyve faced would push many to taking their lives (which has happened to many idols for not living up to the perfect standards placed upon them by knetizens and media). I get that laws are different in South Korea regarding drug use, which is why other idols like Bom have come under fire (in her case, it was for using and importing medication that she was perscribed in the US for a health condition that was considered contraband/drugs in SK). G-Dragon has been tested nunerous times, but nothing. T.O.P has long dealt with anxiety and he chose one way to deal with it, was it the healthiest, no, but he apologized and admitted his wrong doing. Ive had to remind myself that the culture they live in vs what i live in as a fan are vastly different, and what is nornal to me (grass is legal in my state), isnt the case there. Please look more into the birning sun scandal, either from the bbc or Miss Stephanie Soo. It was awful, and demonstrates how power and a misogynistic culture are damaging and dangerous to those who are seen as less than. Im not aure if this is making any sense, i just have so many thoughts and emotions tryibg to be expressed.
a documentary means having sources to back it up which she dont but i get it you haters pick what to believe so you can justify crying at famous people.
I can't say much about the members except that I remember when the scandal hit and the (dust) started to clear, TOP was the first and LOUDEST to distance himself. GD was pretty loud too about how they TRIED to warn people. I think I just respected TOP more cos he was like 'F*ck this shit' and left Big Bang. That he is continuing to do well makes me happy, even if I was never a BB fan.
i never liked big bang due to the past between bts and big bang and armys and vips (big bang fans) but also due to the scandals i never dove deep into any of them until rotten mango got big and i now realized taeyang, g dragon and top are good people who have made some mistakes but shouldnt be treated the same as the burning sun guy. im not familiar with daesung so idk about him i wont treat him like the other guy tho. i especially gained respect for taeyang with how much he seemed to mov past the 'tension' between bts and big bang by possibly apologizing in private because bts dont show kindness fully to people who did them wrong its very kind up front but dont talk to me after this example with the guy who refused jungkooks burger and the guy who jin called out for ignoring bts when they greeted him in 2013 theyre very smiley and kind but you get a sense of its strictly professional not 'i forgave you' similar with james corden. but with taeyang and g dragon it feels genuinely like they all moved past it and would like to cross paths happily now. i also gained respect for g dragon after watching the rotten mango episode about the parasite actor and im so glad g dragon had good support and didnt allow media, public or police to isolate him like they did with lee. that whole situation was messed up and while big bang members may have flaws compared to most idols i think at least those 3 members deserve support from global fans if they cant get it in korea. again idk about daesang but if similar to the other 3 then him too.
@@kresspqressie7722 taeyang didnt apologize to armys. he did nothing to armys directly. i dont know for a fact that he and bts apologized to each other or not but it seems that way with how friendly they were before the members enlisted. anyways i only know of 1 or 2 things related to bts and big bang where armys werent happy at how big bang members treated bts when they were rookies. example the no signal screen bts used and big bang staff and members family members claimed it was plagiarism which caused vips to attack bts even tho 1 you cant own no signal screen and 2 it was the award show that put up the graphics not bts or bighit. maybe big bang members had no contribution and their staff and family did it on their own but they couldve spoken up clearing the air so vips wouldnt hate on bts for it. but i feel like they cleared that up recently which is why they bonded and made content together or allowed themselves to be seen together talking at events etc it isnt a big deal now but it was back then when bts were small and so were armys and you know how knetz are over the smallest things. so armys held a grudge or bad taste about big bang for that alone as well as rumors about how g dragon mocked suga when i think the translation may have been off or expressed in a negative way when he may have just asked a question due to sugas clothing looking cool but being that the clothes were not name brand and 14 dollars suga or whoever translated it couldve taken it as mocking suga and bts for not having money again that one is small and iffy but at the time it was big due to the amount of hate bts got since their debut and got more and more as they got bigger. but ive seen bts members with g dragon, with taeyang so at the very least theyre on good terms with these two members and they still respect the groups legacy even if we all ignore that member. the other 4 seem ok. some armys may never let it go but some are like me who follow what bts do in terms of being happy theyre interacting with celebrities. im sure many armys are also vips. and im sure many vips are armys. i do think the beef between fandoms has lessened over the years especially after 2022 - 2023 of interactions between the groups. especially when compared to other fandoms armys have issues with like blinks or exo-ls. vips are not at the top of the list anymore so i think thats progress and should be seen as a good thing that most of the fandoms have moved on. hope this clears things up. and if you disagree with anything thats okay but i dont want to debate it as its in the past now. :)
@@itaatisa8357 i never said he did anything wrong you need to read better. i said they possibly got past their differences from the past because things DID occur. maybe it wasnt him directly but family members shading another group publicly calls for an apology to those effected as it put a target on their back for their fans to attack them for "stealing" something that wasnt original to begin with. if my sibling caused someone to get hate i would apologize on their behalf to the effected person regardless if it was my fault or not. and regardless of what is or isnt true they clearly all moved past it which is why they were seen being friendly and making content together. otherwise they would never agree to do that if they didnt resolve what happened. youre delusional for thinking your fave isnt respectful to apologize even if he did nothing wrong directly. makes him look bad to pretend it didnt happen than saying he probably resolved it privately with bts.
@@tastefullyrics4895 actually from family and proper ethical what u said true. Before this, im certain not only bigbang but 2nd gen fans, don't accuse other artist or even rookies. It's clearly back then social media just growing and any media just focus to real scandal just like drugs or hit people on the road too. So im not sure what u said its actually happened. It can be someone just spreading misinformstion and immature fans believe it right away without crosscheck the rumor. However if thats true (i'm not trying to defend, i just want to tell how things works on that industry). From entertainment professional side, bigbang not have any power to apologize or defending themself, if CEO of agency don't give them permission. Even when they become powerful CEO still can't do anything about them. CEO and staff never letting their artist apologize for other people's mistakes on their behalf even if drags their name, they will shut down the artist to not appear in media for a while no matter what reason they give to media. U know in that entertainment side, The CEO also not speak up for artist problem (even the artist itself wrong or true that doesn't matter. Right or wrong not existed in gossips) especially if its about negative things that can lead fans war or media bullying targets (cause wrong steps will lead them to cancel culture and decrease their bussiness. Any artists in any agencies just money makers at this rate) It's bussiness. BUT I believe all artist interaction can be happen behind camera/off camera. They have their life too. We outside their lifestyle won't know about it until they bring it to camera or their account or story when they come as guest on the show. Which is if bigbang ever apologize too, it can be happen at off camera. And BTS also maybe won't speak up about it because they respect their senior so much. Again idk about case what u told me, how it can be happend. As if its true. People don't have right to holding a grudge after several years. Especially to their Idols senior. Fans war just can make their idols relationship with other artist (even maybe actor) a bit far or awkward. I can accept what u said is true. And we can't also do anything from it. But what with armies who attack BP or seventeen fans and few days ago attack stray kids fandom? (Pls idk what their fandom name) Do other group also did samething like bigbang, like what u told me here? I'm so confused really with fan wars. Especially when 3rd gen started and it's still happen until now in 5th gens era. And often bring army to it. I honestly feel sad for BTS bcs often armies always in gossip with any fandom war in it. Just why? Idk im very confused with all of these fan wars situation.
No Matter what happen to Seungri, we VIP’s have our 100% support for him. BIGBANG is not BIGBANG without him. That’s why his seniors had many Times warm him about the circles of friends he had because they believe they had a BAD influence to him and IT came true. This case is a matter of “ you need to be mindful of the people that you allow to enter in your life. Choose your circle of friends wisely. People makes mistake, we are just human. WE do not tolerate him but we Will be here for Seungri now and forever. Will never leave just like How they change my life with their music. #KINGSOFKPOP ¥#BIGBANG
Yup. Burning Sun. Rotten Mango (Stephanie Soo) did a really good deep dive into it. They are very long UA-cam videos but very informative! Definitely watch Big Bang’s recent comeback! Big Bang has a MASSIVE influence music wise in K-pop including our 7 humble, kind kings BTS.
a documentary means having sources to back it up which she dont but i get it you haters pick what to believe so you can justify crying at famous people.
As several comments have already said, Rotten Mango has 2 very in depth videos that deep dive into the Burning Sun scandal. They are very long, so even if you watch them on your own time, it’s definitely worth it
a documentary means having sources to back it up which she dont but i get it you haters pick what to believe so you can justify crying at famous people.
You HAVE to learn about the whole Burning Sun scandal it’s truly the most horrific incident in kpop history. I would highly recommend you the videos of Stephanie Soo cuz she explains everything just the way it was with the correct timeline,details and background to everything
You should definitely check out more about the Burning Sun, because even the second video you watched understated how bad it was and just how much all the perpetrators involved got away with (SK doesn't have great laws against sexual abuse)
"The only scandal they can find on them is a scooter" true, but you'll never know. A lot of fans though this about a lot of celebrities, only to be disappointed when they realized they are humans, or worst, monsters. I'm hoping I'll never hear BTS members or any others did something wrong, but I'm not going to believe there never will be something.
Do watch the BBC Documentary on Burning Sun because it is done by credited journalists who have taken the time to gather information. As for the weed, Korea has very strict laws on drugs, in fact most antidepressants are illegal and never prescribed. Korean Idols should always have a clean image of no drugs, no drinking, no smoking, no dating and it's an extreme cancel culture
a documentary means having sources to back it up which they dont but i get it you haters pick what to believe so you can justify crying at famous people.
I love Bigbang (besides the one other member, but people usually ignore him when he pops up in videos.) TOP sadly went through a lot and doesn't want to be associated with Big bang, but I hope he is able to come back at some point. The other three still want to include him in the group. (TOP I mean). I would love for you to react to a guide of TXT (the younger "brothers" of BTS and the only other group under Bighit). The best guide is "The Ultimate Guide to TXT" by Beomie Bear. it looks like an update is coming soon, but I also love this version. They are definitely equally as sincere as BTS. I think they were able to get through the extreme stress of being the next group under BTS and were able to create their own lane instead of riding off of BTS (if that makes sense).
I love big bang. I was not a fan of Seungri in the beginning. One bad member does not take away from them. I love G- dragon, Taeyang, TOP, and Daesang. Their older stuff was really good. But I am an ARMY first and foremost. 💜
1 thing you should know is that bigbang is and will always be 4 (T.O.P & G-dragon & Taeyang & Daesung), they are OT4 ,every member is for OT4, we don't talk about the other awfull person that was in this group neither do bigbang, WE DO NOT SUPPORT THAT MONSTER. Bigbang are the OG's, honestly the blueprint, they are the IDOL of idols, They are Legends bigbang have gone through hell all the members have but especially T.O.P & G-dragon ,Korea really mistreated them so badly while knowing they struggled a lot in the idol life and just made up lies in media, there are some really passionnate haters out there. Bigbang OT4 deserve the absolute world, I will always support them and they deserve the best, Korea should be shameful of their treatement of them. Here are some cool facts you probably don't know; 1/ Bigbang invented the lightsticks, they were the 1st and also brought the idea to light. Same reason why their lightsticks are crowns bc they are the KINGS of Kpop. 2/ T.O.P is the first underground rapper turned idol in kpop. 3/ Bigbang is the first group to start writing and producing their own music 4/Bigbang is the first boy group to dye their hair bright unusual colors 5/ First kpop idol groupto collaberate with western artist. some examples(gdragon collaberated a lot) Flo rida, Justin bieber, Snoopdog, Missy Elliot and many more 6/First kpop group to win an international award. (MTV against britney spears) 7/ They inroduced the concept of "mini album series" to kpop 8/The first idol group to have rapline. The OG DUO RAPLINE, absolute legends gdragon & T.O.P (funfact the history of gd and top goes deep, they have been friends since they were like 7 years old, they were neighbours at the time, they used to make music and raps together as kids at each others houses, when GD went to the agency to become a group, he convinced TOP to do too. AND MANY MORE
you were asked to back up your claims which you couldnt you were given proof that seungri was never accused of harming someone and you were given proof that bigbang themselves still say ot5 but you keep running away simply because you are a hater.
@@pruitv4 YOU HAVE ZERO PROOF, I have police report, video evidence, HE HAS BEEN GUILTY CHARGED WITH ARRANGING PROSTITUES BY THE COURT OF LAW. He has been sentenced, what more proof do you need? He could probably SA someone right before your EYES and wouldn't matter to you bc that how cr*zy you are to think you know better THAN THE LITERAL COURT EVIDENCE. I have back ups for all my claims, you can search it up yourself, keep stalking btw I don't mind putting you in your PLACE. Ps*cho, you are legit RUINING BB, but to be too prideful or everything wr*ng in your head to realize it.
@pruitv4 go look at the court evidence and the sentencing he got, and was found GUILTY.go argue with the wall you st*lker. YOU haven't asked me ANYTHING certainly wouldn't answer if it ain't in a respectful way. You are po*son to BB with all your lies
It's all B.S. Do you notice they just say he's involved but never said how what who. What is the crime? What crime was committed? Holding a party, inviting girls to a party, what is the crime? Owning 5 percents of a club but does not involve in management while the real owner of the club plead guilty to soliciting prostitute but received no jail time then apologize to him for dragging him down just because he's the face of the club? For being in a group chat in which one of the members had another group chat that share clips and being used as the cover of the news when never being in the group chat, never film any women, and absolutely never SA anyone? I did not watch the BBC doc and will not, it's a waste of time. It talks about the AS case which does not involve Seungri at all. And it shows some clip showing SR fooling around with a girl on a yacht, (Yes they were fooling around, the girl was SR's friend of more than 10 years) So that is evidence? All these u-tubers and all the people in this comment section fail the reading a single court document test. A Korean lawyer was on u-tube reporting his case. He explained that SR was innocent and showed the evidence. I think he believed that SR would be found not guilty. He would like to believe his country court system is fair but he was disappointed. I see that you are very excited when you're talking about these so-called scandals. Like most people the bigger the scandal the better. They even sound the same saying people like me are delulu. It's very very sad! Can't people see what the K-media and these content creators do? They literally destroy people's lives and kill some. 5 minutes after Squid Game 2's release, negative articles about TOP appear in Korea criticizing his performance in it when TOP does not appear until episode 3. What did he do? He smoked some weed 8 years ago. They're still trying to cancel him. He's not the only one in Squid Game who has Scandals. Is that proportional? Go ahead and enjoy more of these videos. There are thousands of them. I know this mean nothing to you and people don't care. I'm sorry I'm just very angry.
Hey Nesto! I hope your weather is better than mine. 😂 It's been snowing all day! 😮❤❤❤ The Burning Sun scandal had to with drugs and sexual assault. I recommend Rotten Mango for the documentary about Burning Sun!!!!
That's not true🙄.. There's so much misinformation in that video from Rotten... We all VIPs followed Seungri case, Burning Sun case and The Group Chat case... In Burning Sun there's only drugs case actually the CEO and an employee were jailed for providing drugs to the Club clients.. The Group Chat case the idols involved( Jung Joon Young and Choi Jong Hoon(leader of FTISLAND), and Lee Jonghyun from CNBLUE) were sentenced with really short jail time that the victims were forced by that outcome to do a petition to send at the Blue House(the Korean version of White House😑) sadly nobody of those people that were claiming "think to the victims" signed the petition or helped the victims😤..... People were to busy blaming Seungri a guy that wasn't part of that group chat, of SA, raped, drugs and many other things that never were allegations against him... Seungri's only allegations about Burning Sun is embezzlement🙄.. He was in a work chat but nothing really happened here kmedia came after him just because he shared a naked back of a woman that was already used as logo for club in Singapore..funny thing is that Korean Court didn't allow proofs or foreign witnesses so for him was really hard prove his innocence🙄
a documentary means having sources to back it up which she dont but i get it you haters pick what to believe so you can justify crying at famous people.
Wasn’t there also a scandal with Daesung an a motorcyclist? It’s like a fever dream, I remember this from waayyy back in the day but no one ever seems to mention it anymore.
@dyhkpopedition1736 I think you are referring to that one fatal accident which he was involved in? According to the news, the motorcyclist was already tested to have a blood alcohol level exceeding the acceptable range before he crashed into a street lamp by himself, and Daesung (who did not drink) unfortunately ran him over a few minutes after that. There was no evidence showing that the victim was alive before Daesung ran into him so the charges were dropped. IIRC Daesung was really affected by the incident and basically disappeared from variety shows for a good while. The first time I saw him reappear on a major network broadcasting station was on How Do You Play (MBC) which was like almost 10+ years after the incident.
Rotten mango is amazing and did a video on the burning sun incident and to get a clear understanding of how bad and deep it is you really should watch it
a documentary means having sources to back it up which she dont but i get it you haters pick what to believe so you can justify crying at famous people.
As a huge BigBang fan (I got a tattoo of their last album) it was so out of left field that this super popular group would all suddenly be a part of scandals. The issue is Koreas laws are not the best when it comes to certain issues. Drugs are seen as horrible and you're outcast from society for doing them (even prescribed drugs like Adderall are illegal, so if you are prescribed outside of korea and are found taking them, the news calls you a druggie; this happened to fellow YG musician Park Bom of 2NE1). But sex scandals are treated much differently, and I believe it is because a lot of Men hold power and view women as objects. It's more life ruining if a girl says she was assaulted, but the man isn't held accountable. BigBang as a group are what made YG what they are, so if they did anything suspicious, they were seen as kings falling from grace. TOP is one of them, and most recently before the MAMA2024 performance GD was also accused of smoking weed. If I like AI, I would ask someone to redo all BigBang songs without Seungri, but unfortunately he is a part of their past. If you do see the MAMA performance, you will still hear TOPs voice in the recording while they perform, but they completely skipped Seungris part. This sparks some hope that the 4 of them will make music again and be free from so much hate. (Early kpop, pre-BTS, was kinda wild, with a lot of idols taking their lives due to pressure of fans and media, so while disgusting as Seungri and Burning Sun were, it all seemed bad back then and this just added to the fire.) PS if any seungri lovers try to come here and say he made a mistake, you need help.
11:33 He is the PDiddy of South Korea and it is ridiculous how he barely got any real sentencing especially since he is how going to other countries and trying to open up a club there. Other members were cleared and even before they debuted, they wanted to debut as 4 members because they have been friends for years (but YG had to add Seungri 🙄). T.O.P is on longer with them because of how much he got hate from knetz and kmedia, got blacklisted, and needed space (also so his members aren’t affected by this hate). But we still consider him as a Big Bang member and hope he will be back making music. And Seungri was always the LEAST talented, unique and popular so people often said he felt inferior to his members because each of them had been doing well even outside of the group unlike him.
he gambled once and proof was shown to you many times but as a hater you cant accept it and run away without backing up your story and talentwise youre still wrong hes still part of the reason why they are the kings of kpop this just further shows that youre a liar
@pruitv4 Please stop being delusional. Call me whatever you want; I am indeed HIS hater that I am not denying, so move on. You would make a good couple with him, so I hope he will give you a chance. You will cover up all of his crimes and keep sucking up to him ☺️ Be blessed with your delusions, messed up morals and a criminal for a celebrity.
Funny Nesto ,I wonder with all that has been revealed about so many of our music industry's celebrities, and other big wigs from our country being deviants, how many other viewers got that same Diddy vibe, after following this story. It was said he invited important people from other countries to his partying. Was he encouraged by something he was finding out about, by these big name important people. They always say people of a feather flock together. 😮😢❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤🎉😊
a documentary means having sources to back it up which she dont but i get it you haters pick what to believe so you can justify crying at famous people.
@pruitv4 He was literally convicted. Not just accused. You can't get someone in jail without evidence ... and the BBC documentary also has evidence. I know you need evidence because SA happened to me in South Korea.
@ and yet thats what happens many times all around the world same with him only that he still was never even accused of harming someone and no that shady media does not have any evidence they just have some actors playing victim who cant even back up their stories nor show that they have ever met seungri or ever were in that club.
and yet thats what happens many times all around the world same with him only that he still was never even accused of harming someone and no that shady media does not have any evidence
they just have some bought people playing victim who cant even back up their stories nor show that they have ever met seungri or ever were in that club.
a documentary means having sources to back it up which they dont but i get it you haters pick what to believe so you can justify crying at famous people.
for me TOP is still have chance to comeback as group in BB. for seungri is no no. BB is good as 4 member. but if they feelin it good with situation right now its okay, we should respect their choice :)
I hate that you always bring in BTS along with Yg groups video! Bts fandom is very insecure of Yg groups especially Bigbang & Blackpink! I hate unnecessary drama they always bring in please keep it separated
BTS is soft....idolized Bigbang and never made it to their level. Popstars will never be held up in the same regard as rockstars. While BTS is a boy group, Bigbang is a dude group with more guy fans than girl fans. Bigbang is the only group of rockstars. If it wasn't for Covid, Bigbang was set for Coachella as a 4 member group. Right now, Stray Kids are the closest to being a dude group along with Treasure...guys that aren't necessarily following trends and could care less what others think.
My comment keeps getting deleted anytime i try to link Rotten Mangos video for her deep dive into the Burning Sun scandal. But she does an amazing job covering it all the horrible situation that it is and its a 3 part deep dive. Check it out she did an amazing job
a documentary means having sources to back it up which she dont but i get it you haters pick what to believe so you can justify crying at famous people.
El cometio un error que en la juventud casi todos cometemos pero practicamente alla es como haber cometido un pecado capital fue horrible el hate que la prensa y muchos coreanos le lanzaron fue espantososin embargo estamos orgullosos de el porque muchos Idols no pudieron soportar la presion y se suicidaron el se mantuvio firme soportando todo au n hoy se lo restregan en la cara odio a esos haters
So Seungri, we are calling him "The Loser". He cannot comeback any Korea entertainment. However, He is mentioning or selling name of Bigbang southeast asia some reason.
he can and no he is living quietly you just believe the baseless lies from known problematic channels who already got exposed for lying he gambled once which was proved and never was accused of harming someone thats why bigbang still say ot5 as we can see in still life and home sweet home.
Please don't check out the Burning Sun scandal. Don't become one of those negative attention seeking channels. You are way too positive for this stuff.
are you another alt of hers or why would you promote that rotten thing who makes fun of victims all the time and already got exposed for telling only lies about the burning sun case and even drags haras name just for cliicks.
rotten mango and kookielit were xpsd countless times for their missinformation especially on this subject because they know many inetz cant accept that bigbang are the kings of kpop even most of the ones here who try to look nice and at the same time still show their true personality with still trying to keep seungris hate train going who literally disproved most of the accusations of which none exist of anything you saw here hope you wont give in to just satisfy those kind of people and become another cloutchasing hater.
Before believing stupid UA-cam videos, you should do a little research. Seungri had NOTHING to do with the whole Burning Sun thing. ZERO. I will give you FACTS from court proceedings and WITNESS STATEMENTS. 1. Seungri NEVER shared a video of photograph in chat rooms. 2. Seungri NEVER solicited hookers. The hookers themselves testified in court it was someone else and the guy who actually solicited them also testified in court. 3. Seungri NEVER did illegal gambling. HABITUAL gambling in a foreign country is illegal in SK. His attorneys showed proof he gambled a couple times over multiple years which is NOT habitual. 4. Seungri NEVER hired thugs to either intimidate or beat up anyone. The guys the police CLAIMED were threatened and beat up in the club testified they NEVER got threatened or beat up. 5. Seungri NEVER assaulted any female in any way. 6. Witnesses testified that police altered their written statements and asked leading questions attempting to get them to incriminate Seungri. 7. Witnesses testified that police and prosecutors intimidated ant threatened them to change their statements. 8. The actual owners of the Burning Sun testified that Seunri NEVER embezzled funds from the club. 9. Police stated that Seungri fully cooperated with them in all investigations and the court even denied multiple arrest warrants due to a severe lack of evidence. 10. The current president of SK, who has had one scandal after another was the Prosecutor General at the time and was embroiled in a major scandal at the time. He pushed for Seungri, the most high profile of the people under investigation at the time, to be the main focus of everything. A tactic he has used multiple times over the years to distract from his own scandals. (the GD and Lee Sun Kyun lies being a more recent one that led to Sun Kyun taking his own life) 11. Seungri stated that things were going good when suddenly he was "coerced, threatened and bullied to plead guilty or spend the rest of his life in prison". 12. Of ALL the men involved in the REAL Burning Sun scandal, NOT ONE OF THEM got jail time. Every one of them got suspended sentences and probation. These are men who DID share videos and photos, DID hire hookers, DID hire thugs, etc. And they got probation. Seungri, the most famous of them all, got jail time. THIS was a set-up from day one to distract from one in a long line of scandals in the SK government and to appease the Korean people by getting SOMEONE convicted. 13, Burning Sun WAS NOT OWNED BY SEUNGRI. HER ENTIRE VIDEO IS LIES FROM BEGINNING TO END. ALL OF THE ABOVE ARE FACTS AND SEUNGRI'S CAREER, REPUTATION AND LIFE WERE RUINED BECAUSE OF IT.
I'm with you 100% on T.O.P., it's weed. While I understand the laws in Korea are different, I can't help but find it funny the irony in their excessive drinking culture being okay but smoking weed is bad. It confuses me. I don't even mention the former member who is just money & power hungry and a sick person, he's a weakest member of Big Bang and didn't even deserve to be there. Now G-Dragon, Taeyang (young bae) and DAESUNG (D-lite) are performing and I'm totally behind them, hoping that TOP joins them again.
TOP doesnt get paid for squid games. He hopes that it will help him get back into the industry after being blacklisted by SK. But they went ridiculously crazy at him for weed compared to Seungri and other really big crimes.. that with the pressure he almost self exited. The pressure they put on some Kpop groups is ridiculous. Especially for 2nd Gen and 3rd Gen. my group GOT7 also had a lot to work hard and stay out of a scandal. And always apologizing if the outcome we as fans were expecting like if it is an award or more votes or whatever.. saying they will work even harder. That’s the hard thing to watch with kpop industry. I do hope that big bang will come together as a group of 4 with TOP returning. Him and GD are my favs from the group.
I'm glad T.O.P is back in the spotlight in a good way this time. Well, in America for sure. I hope his life keeps getting better. As someone who tried to do themselves in the same as he did my heart really goes out to him. ❤
And yes his only scandal was the pot. He was destroyed by Korean media and tried to kill himself. The media and fans then said he only did it to get sympathy. Its crazy- hes still getting bashed by them for being on Squid Game. Glad we dont feel the same way here!
Wow I didn't realize he tried to end his life. That is horrifying over what is nothing in America. I hope he heals completely and shines bright
@RogueFire777 I agree
I laughed when the video said they wont get into the burning sun incident when that's objectively the biggest scandal involving a big bang member 😂
same for you hater it was a big scandal but his only claim was that he was the owner and he disproved that so no he is not involved with the clubs case at all.
@pruitv1 he was in the chats where they were posting girls being saed by rich men
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@pruitv1 omfg it was proven he was in those disgusting group chats! A chat with videos of WOMEN BEING GRAPED! It doesn't matter if he never did it to anyone himself, he ffing stood by and let women - his ffing club's CUSTOMERS - get graped! If you support him, you can go to hell just like him!
How TOP got treated after his "scandal" is truly shameful, especially after his own attempt on his life. Even now he's being treated like a criminal by korean media for that and that's why he refused for years to do anything in Korea. The girl that outed him is also very famous to shove celebrities under the bus at any given opportunity just for attention and it's a wonder that she is still free with all the substances she was caught with.
Seungri instead is a shameless person. I have no words about that one, his shady business, and how he still got fans. It' true that the other members of Big Bang always treated him a little bit differently (and his fans say it was bullism, but cmon now...). GD had to monitor his messages, TOP was telling him to be careful about the people he was with, but that dude still tarnished the group and took no accountability for it.
@@xhyuck is she the same person who made Wonho leave Monsta X ?
@@Rabbitwarren_7 Yes, that's the same Han Seo Hee (not be mistaken with the actress Han So Hee). She also got involved with iKon, SHINee, RIIZE, several influencers and actors. She keeps getting charged for drugs but gets away every time with a slap on the wrist, it's ridiculous.
I agree with everything you said!!! But, what on earth is "bullism"??? I feel like everyday there is some new "woke" type word that they are trying to come up with, to make humanity seem even more deserving of an apocalypse... 🤦🏻♂️
@@xhyuck Is it true that she was his girlfriend at the time bc I honestly can't recall, I taught she was and she snitched bc they broke up or something, bc they said it was his ex
I think its not about knetz but about media in Korea...
The BBC video was done really well. There are still foreign fans who think Seungri is innocent. Not sure how after that BBC video.
Yes, its just those few complete nutcases still trying to live in some alternate delusional universe. Unfortunately, there's enough of them to even pop up here and there in comments on YT, which I still find just absolutely insane...
The BBC is inaccurate. The Korean Journalist deliberately went with misinformation which she knew. She should be sued.
Seungri's explanation about BBC video.
The woman in the video is my friend of 10 years. It happened when we went in Busan with friends. We played rock-paper-scissors, and the loser had to ride peanut boat. My friend and i lost, but she didn't want to go, so i pulled her out. It was in a broad daylight with people around, how could that be something outrageous?
@emmie_lou_who BBc actually apologies for the mistake they did...
With this documentary..
it isnt that media is one of the shadiest one ever and were bought to spread some new rumors around they cant even back up its just you foreign haters who believe them.
Btw their video Still Life is only four of them and its beautiful. It came out in 2022
BBC has a documentary, but stephanie soo from Rotten Mango does a good job explaining the Burning Sun scandal.
I second watching Stephanie’s episode. She does a great job explaining
The fact in Blue Phoenix's UA-cam.
The fact without editing like BBC , Disfuck and Stephanie.
Please watch Stephanies ep
So true she even had the footage of him attacking that girl in public. Or the thing they did the night before a fan meet. She is so thorough. When she told him to have his attorney contact hers if she’s lying I was so shocked on top of the bbc also. She wanted ALL the smoke. All involved ruined so many lives and most just got away with it. So sad.
@1maxnani she has 4 eps on this now
Nesto you should check out the Burning Sun incident. And what’s so disturbing and insane is that SK (not all) people will NOT forgive T.O.P. or Suga for their absolutely ridiculous “incidents “ yet SA is wow, just forgivable. There’s something seriously wrong with this thought process 😳
Ugh I was so disturbed by that. When I watch their old videos I cringe at the sight of him
Exactly exactly EXACTLY 💯 Burning Sun should have been real punishment
Yoongi & T.O. P couldn't be forgiven yet seungri I'd in Bali or whatever throwing more parties and dating multiple women at once! Grr. Out there just living his life. Rotten mango does an amazing job covering burning sun, but fair warning, it's rly long. But worth the watch! 💜
@AbisinyaPaul-m9v oh you would be surprised by the cult like OT5 stans in Korea that forgive seungri,and say ohh bigbang still support him which is SOO UNTRUE,and they will talk bad ab T.O.P &gdragon trying to compare them doing weed to that monster.I have argued with too many delusional ppl for me saying OT4 which will always be in my heart
@ I know. It’s absolutely ridiculous. I don’t understand the logic at all😳 Stephanie aka Rotten Mango does do a fantastic job but you’re right it is long. She does great with all of her deep dives. She’s as accurate as possible. She did a three or four part series on Diddy ugh🤮 but she did a great job with that as well. I think Nesto would like her as she’s just great and she also has her shorter and silly videos I love lol❤️
I will always support Big Bang as a 4 member group. As for Seungri, I am done with him. I have seen those texts they talked about. He seriously has no respect for anyone especially women. I will also continue to support each of the remaining four members in their solo careers as well.
Lol the chat was later on proven manipulated by the reporter. She said that she didn't include some messages.
meaning you dont support them at all and just want to use them for clout while being a hater they are 5 if you like it or not thats what bigbang themselves also say and if you had any respect for other women you wouldnt support false claims against innocent people because thats exactly what gives real victims a harder time to get justice.
I would not get information from unvetted sources. There are too much misinformation about the said events that got shared. I would get the actual court documents with the verdicts and not from social media.
Exactly👏💛
Yes.
What is even crazier, is that all members of Big Bang (especially G-Dragon and Taeyang) constantly called Seungri out in public settings. They kept it vague, but the fact they were talking about it says a lot.
your kind sure loves to make things up to keep your hatetrain going.
Suchwita with Taeyang and Suga is very informative and good. Burning Sun was completely disgusting and their sentences were even worse nobody got any real time for what they did. The T.O.P. thing is ridiculous in America but in S. Korea you can't even smoke it in the USA because you'll be charged when you return home. I really love G Dragon and Taeyang, even though a reporter recently pushed him into a corner and started a fandom war on purpose. Watching on the TV, stopped in to comment. All the BTS guys have BigBang as their idols excluding the Burning Sun guy
A reporter didn't start a fandom war...toxic army did.
@@mmmqua The reporter started the war with wrote "Taeyang said Big Bang paved the way". And then after Taeyang got attack on his social media, the reporter disclose what Taeyang said. Taeyang never claimed "Big Bang paved the way". Who can a group who never enter Billboard Hot 100 can paved other k-pop groups way globally? 🤣🤣🤣
@@RogueFire777 Yeah, typical toxic army behavior.
@bimotok757 Nobody "Paved the Way". Each generation broke ground for the next one. First generation broke ground for BB's generation, who broke ground for BTS's generation, who broke ground for skz (or whomever you stan
) .
@@elizabethowens4115 Yes!!! Exactly!!! 💯💯💯
When you do the comeback, if it's not already done, make sure you do the complete performance, it's not just bang bang bang and fantastic baby, it starts with power and home sweet home 👍💜
Yes!
I hope he does the m/v for Still Life😢
Actually Jiyong performance start with UNTITLED 2014 and then proceed with POWER, HSH, BANG BANG BANG and FANTASTIC BABY😌💛
Please watch the full 2024 MAMA performance which is 15 minutes, not the end part which is a bit of Bang bang and Fantastic Baby.
The only truth about the documentary is the end where the members kept warning Seungri to not hang out with that bad crowd. Being the ringleader of the burning sun is lies. He did jail time for money laundering which is bad. The legal documents say he had no part in this, the victims said he had no part in it but yet haters want to believe the media and UA-camrs who want clicks.
My question is who paid bbc to publish their recent article on the Burning Sun at the same time that G-Dragon was making a comeback?
The real truth is in the legal documents.
Just enjoy the music please and not get swept by haters who love to hate and remember that we’re here for the music not the drama. Thank you.
It was that psycho of Kim SangKyo i swear everything i have that it was that sick person😤.. He's so obsessed with BIGBANG in particular with Seungri.. I'll never forget his posts saying he'll destroy BIGBANG.. He's involved in politics it must be him😤
Oh right because court documents always state the absolute truth and never miss anything or get anything wrong. I respect big bang as artists and enjoy their music too but to think SG didn’t have any part of the burning sun scandal when he was so involved in the organization and there’s literally a video of him dragging a woman is being delusional. We can be here for the music too but also aware about someone who has done terrible things to women or even by your accord of him not being involved he knew exactly what was happening
@melisme27... Please enlighten us how in the world a person that was working in severals soloist projects like he was everywhere on variety shows(he even won an award for that in 2018) he was preparing his album writing, composing and filming.. releasing promoting and even on TOUR..how so busy like Seungri was that year being oart of the organization of a club that wasn't his club🙄???... I remind you Burning Sun was opened on April 2018 and closed on Jenaury 2019... the owner was Lee Sunghyun( not Seungri) , The CEO Moon... Seungri's company had 20% shares of Burning Sun.. Seungri alone had 8%...what he did for the club was promoted it and played as DJ occasionally to attract more clients since Burning Sun was a new Club.. Even other idols played as DJ the more highlighted was one of the GIRL GENERATION(she's a female idol so they didn't involve her but she was harassed for a while by haters)...please now tell me how Seungri could have noticed that the CEO was providing drugs in the club🙄???.. Cuz that's the only crime committed there by the club organization.. I remember the Police Officer interview he stated that there wasn't any sexual activities.. They investigated over 40 people and they only found videos recorded with cellphone by clients of the club in the girls bathroom those videos then were shared on a western online webside😤.. This was very disturbing but in that case the club staff could not know that was happened since seems the girls didn't noticed so didn't reported either😒... So please don't come st me telling me thst Seungri should have stopped something lije thst happened there like he wasn't evrn the owner and how in the world someone can think things like this happen in Clubs???.. Like at this point is better stsy at home and never get out😒.. Now tell me what misinformation did you eat it🤦🏻♀️????
@@melisme27 dragging that woman? have they ever interview that woman why she is being drag?
Disgusting how people still favour him... meanwhile my TOP is suffering who did nothing in comparison go that bastard.
I love G Dragon❤️ T.O.P. is in Squid Games 2. And yeah, omg he committed a catastrophic crime (lying about smoking marijuana). Hell he and Suga should be locked away for life😩 How freaking RIDICULOUS is that 😡 It is so ridiculous. T.O.P. Is awesome💜 And you know Suga is my king lol💜
Stephanie Soo a famous UA-camr has a thorough video about the Burning Sun. Her channel is Rotten Mango or Miss Mango Butt. She’s great❤️
Yes! Excellent multiple part series that even mentions 👏 the BBC's Excellent piece.
She is great and she loves BTS.
@@TheBioExplorer What does that have to do with her news and true crime coverage?
She is a chick...so supporting that group is expected...lol. They like dudes that hug and kiss on each other.@@TheBioExplorer
already debunked as baseless fairy tales but you inetz love to use anything to jump on certain bandwagons and cry at famous people just because some "famous" youtuber said so who uses bots to support herself.
try blue phoenix he made real documentaries and even backed up everything that was already proven even back then even korean lawyers did the same during the scandal to keep everyone factually updated.
@pruitv0 LOUDER 🔊
The subject of Seungri is touchy. You have those that support him and those who think he's the scum of the earth. First, I encourage everyone to do your research. If you know an international lawyer, especially in South Korea, ask them to review the case. It's helpful to speeak to someone who understands S. Korean laws. From my understanding, Seungri was never charged with SA. His legal problems stem from something separate from Burning Sun. People will argue against this. Research the legal documents. Seungri was found guilty of using his credit card to pay for s*x workers, guilty for lying on his business application and guilty for gambling in the US. Please do your due diligence and research. Not all resources are creditable. Please pay attention to the correct legal jargon. Don't make assumptions, ask questions and ask for legal clarification. If you believe in justice, you'll find the answers. Thank you for reading.
Burning Sun Is not about Seungri.
It's about Kim Sang kyo, who was a convicted with sexual assault and obstruction of business..
It happened October of 2018 ,he was kicked out of the club because he was caught harrasing a drunk female costumer by the way it was caught on CCTV.
And he wanted to make arevenged yo the club and make story another thr club class a whistle blower on December 2018...
Seungri was never been the owner of the club,and the Club was cleared.
Why are you defending that disgusting man??
You are a brave dad and I really respecting your open mindset about different cultures and appreciation of KPOP. These BigBang Idols are all human beings/ persons who made/ makes mistakes in judgement and trusting people. Sadly, Koreans do not believe in second chances, thus pushing their idols to commit suicides when caught in any conflict or controversies. By far, and historically BigBang music are “avant gard “ and most enjoyable. No auto tune and poetically written lyrics. I will caution you to enjoy it much just by yourselves as most armies does not recognize BigBang music as superior as BTS. Only the BTS army Elites appreciate and hold a light to BigBang members since these are BTS members idols. Take care and may your love for KPOP flourish and keep you entertained. ☺️✌🏻peace to all!!!
Well said!!!
I thought they still used autotune but not strong its just for part of instrumental to add variety in the music itself
would you forgive someone who did those things like the burning scandal to you? or even knew about it? i would NOT so that is one thing you can´t forgive. the rest drunk driving and weed is forgivable, but when it involves hurting other people, like hit a person while drinking and driving, it´s a no go. what p-diddy did is also non forgivable either.
@@lealarsen2017 You are very right at the part with Sungri, and Diddy, too!
But I don´t think Victoria meant this!
She talked about the Fan base of BTS that sometimes don´t like, that ARMY´s watch other bands! Snd to forgive TOP, I guess!
Nobody is asking you to forgive Seungri. In fact, there are a lot of V.I.P.'s who don't. But don't condemn the other members just because of his actions.
Yes the comeback video is awesome and it only includes G-Dragon, Daesung & Taeyang.
Bigbang was a huge inspiration for BTS you’ll hear them talk about it all the time…plus Jimin did the collaboration with Taeyang on his song Vibe, Yoongi had Taeyang on Suchwita & mentioned how much they all looked up to them & Jungkook has said several times how watching a G-Dragon performance made him decide to be a singer.
@@carograh okk this video is about bigbang so why you are here talking about bts and how bigband mean to them I dk that's so dumb you can appreciate you're fav but don't bring other's up
@meryemoufakir-bd5ux no reason to be so nasty …Nesto mentioned BTS in the video himself and I just happened to mention the connection
@MeryemOufakir-bd5ux.. Some people here do mention BTS because this youtuber is a BTS reactor and probably fan of them at this point...actually not all VIPs me included are happy to see this BIGBANG reactions since Armys are spreading misinformation everywhere in the comments sections🤦🏻♀️
@@bdcmxsyjds8935 thank you I am also a relatively new VIP so I’m repeating just what I’ve heard or seen so if I’ve ever said anything wrong y’all can correct me I’m not opposed to that but I don’t appreciate people like the one above just being nasty
He even sang a lot of songs on his recent Weverse live.
He sang part of “A boy” “Niliria” “Who you?” “Home sweet home” and was looking for “Power”
Love your reactions
The Fact that they say that Seungri owns the Burning Sun Clubs even though not makes them liars. Imagine him being accused of doing drugs and yet being negative from hair, armpit hair, urine and blood examination.
Seungri involved in human trafficking.
Thank you for being sincere and objective in your response. The history of BigBang is nuanced and it's clear you are being respectful of that.
We fans of BigBang, VIP, can be very protective of 4 of the members. How any VIP can support Seungri after all the evidence at his trial is beyond me . But I completely support the female survivors of his and the other male "celebrities" horrific treatment. They should all still be in jail.
However, Korean society is still very misogynistic and also very judgemental of drug use. In some ways it is changing thanks to the global exposure of the internet and the Hallyu Wave (KPOP, KDrama, and Korean Food) but not quickly enough.
I hope that you receive positive feedback for your words. Many people do support T.O.P because we know the anxiety he suffered for years, that he was smoking wacky for more than recreational purposes, and that his "ex girlfriend" was known to be a drug dealer to the "stars" and she outed him for the sole purpose of escaping a prison sentence herself. After writing that apology letter, he overdosed on his anxiety medication and was in a coma for days. We VIP feared he would die for something that isn't even a crime now in my state. Thankfully, he recovered and now he's doing what he loves again, entertaining people. Let's hope that the Korean media and internet keyboard warriors can just let the man live his life in peace.
Again, thank you for being supportive of our fandom. I hope you check out more BigBang. They really did change the industry in so many ways and all the other idol groups idolize them.
not the case at all but it shows that you only follow channels who are known for spreading lies all day while everyone who was in sk even once can confirm that this is not true.
Yeah the guys tried to talk him out of it but he didn't listen they tried to warn him but it didn't work
BLUE phoenix is a rightbsource with all the legal reference for Seungri case....
Hope your all are not stvpid to believe on media, same people who tried to destroy Gdragon in 2023 with False Drug case...
We learned what happened yo Seungri that's why we stand with GD...
So hope you people do your research correctly ...
When you react to the MAMA performance, please make sure to watch the FULL PERFORMANCE! The one you showed us in your earlier video was only the second half.
Plus, as you probably already know, Korean people are really harsh on idols and celebrities.. But if you watch MAMA full performance, you'll notice that people also have been waiting for them so much.
The woman who confessed about T.O.P's marijuana scandal, which happened in 2016. She admitted to smoking marijuana with him in June 2017, She in jail for spreading false rumors and causing trouble for other idols, drugs addict , not just T.O.P. She is considered a problematic person.
@@Xiierxyz96 finally... I wish SK would treat their artist as human beings... Cause like it's unfair to be attacked by these malicious rumors then boom even after you have proven yourself innocent the same people who were attacking you don't apologize, they don't attack the other people with the same energy... It's giving hypocrite and two faced, cause like these people are playing with people's lives and they get away with it.
She's actually not in prison now. She's been out for quite a while.
Kings of k pop.
Music Genius GD❤
Yees kings of K-pop the problem why bts fan always use their past to make their fave look better and that’s so sad
@@KikoEmmbecause they are insecure about their own idols
Fame makes people think they are above the law. Ex: P Diddy- Trump etc., do I need to go on? ALL Drugs and Gambling are illegal in S. Korea EVEN if a Korean goes to Vegas and gambles, IT'S STILL ILLEGAL. A Korean cannot do drugs or gamble in any country even if legal in that country and if caught will be held liable in a court of law in Korea!
But you missed the part talking about the “scandal” of GD. In the military they were putting in risk his privacy, accusing him of special treatment that wasn’t like that.
Actually all the scandals were wrong except the Seungri scandal. GD was framed by his friend and accidentally used marijuana, TOP was framed by his girlfriend and has apologized. GD didn't get special treatment in the military, he got a different room because his roommates were spying on him, even the hospital staff where he was treated also wrote journals about him, it really invaded his privacy. Daesung has paid taxes according to the rules. He also didn't hit anyone because it was the car in front of him that hit the victim, even so he still compensated for the losses. When you reach the top, many people will bring you down, that's why other Big Bang members have warned Seungri to be more careful in choosing friends, but he chooses to continue committing crimes using his fame.
One of the reasons I think BTS has worked hard to stay out of trouble was that when they were still rookies, the GLAM scandal nearly destroyed the company. The only girl group that BigHit had ever debuted, GLAM, had a member that in 2014 was accused of blackmailing actor Lee Byung Hyun (now also in Squid Games!) with a compromising video. The member was eventually convicted of blackmail although she ended up not serving time because Lee Byung Hyun requested a suspended sentence instead. In any case, GLAM was disbanded and the BTS biography said the tanking of GLAM set the company back financially. So, those boys had a front row seat to what Find Out could look like in FAFO, and how many other people (like them) could end up being hurt along the way if they did anything stupid.
I don't know if you have watched all of American Hustle Life, either, but there is an episode where they go to Skid Row with their mentors to hand out sandwiches, and even then they talked about how it brought home that basically anyone is one major screw up away from ending up on Skid Row, too. Especially with how unforgiving the Korean public is to entertainers. (I didn't even realize T.O.P. was in Squid Games this season because Korean media is STILL refusing to acknowledge him because of that 8 year old pot charge. He is cut out of photos and not named in Korean media, so I only realized he was even part of it when I saw a picture from Western press sources.)
I loved Bigbang up until enlistment but Seungri really tainted everything for me with Burning Sun. There's a YG made comedy called YG Future Strategy Office on Netflix with him in it playing a 'fictional' version of himself and I remember a 'joke' where the Blackpink girls were making comments implying he was a creepy perv. So I figured that YG knew exactly what kind of person Seungri was but didn't take it seriously at all.
lol you said already that it was a comedy show by YG and yet used it as evidence or prove something against seungri? thats nasty
That was a parody and was scripted. Geez.. Not a fan of Seung-ri but state facts please!
HONESTLY, of you want to know ANYTHING about Seungris case, read about it or watch Burning Sun How A Lie Was Born videos instead. Because truth is, nearly all of yhese channels tell nothing but lies and dont care about the truth just views
apparently the plots that i watch on korean dramas are not just imaginary stories huh 😃
Justice for top he did nothing wrong
Yeah on the other video I got attacked for saying what I said about top and seungri the only thing said was how seungri got forgiven for his.crimes but top still gets criticized for smoking
yeah because everyone knows that their crimes were both minor ones while its only a few inetz with their unfortunate lifes who cant accept that and made up claims about seungri that they cant even back up.
I ask you to read the court documents, everything you want is there, if you don't do this, don't comment on his case. no evidence and no victim and no woman ever accused him of sa or anything else ,police just wanted scapegoat because in burning sun case ,the real criminals are those whom the police do not want to fight with ,I mean police doesn't have that much of power, there were bigger fishes in the game,in the court that held for seungri's case (this had nothing to do with the burning sun club or molka group chat ,he was not even summoned as a witness for the molka case )all the witnesses,they testified in his favor but the judge ignored all of them ,the interesting thing is that the judge of this case was immediately promoted.And these days, instead of studying the case, anyone can make someone else a criminal just by reading redit, we don't need a court anymore 🤔🙄
keep coping
@@S0LAVELLANHELL keep crying hater
I kinda agree with you saying Korean Diddy. With his fame from the group BB, he is still not getting enough. It's greed man
The Group BIGBANG is legendary. I will not let the mistakes of one tarnish my memory or love of the group for what they were. GD and TOP are two of my absolute favorite rappers of all time.
@AliCat1912 agreed!! I'm a diehard VIP, and I still enjoy their music so much. Seungri will not tarnish that for me. T.O.P is my favorite rapper of all time and his crime was stupid af. He doesn't deserve the hate he's getting
@@KRenieM I couldn't agree more. Like, I understand the cultural differences but the crap he went through because of it is actually insane. I mean, we almost lost one of the greatest rappers of all time because of it. And his apology, smh, you'd think he was on some hardcore stuff or something. He shouldn't have ever had to hold that level of shame and guilt. Man deserves better.
@AliCat1912 YESSS THIS!! He apologized so sincerely and still got hate. Get over it people. It was just Marijuana, not as bad as Seugnri
The UA-camr Rotten Mango has 2 episodes on Burning Sun. Se explain it the best to me.
a documentary means having sources to back it up which she dont but i get it you haters pick what to believe so you can justify crying at famous people.
I really would no go through armies, they hate bigbang.
They think kpop just revolves around their idols only. Big bang is senior in the industry and they are immature kids who are disrespecting the senior 🙄
Recently Taeyang was cyberbullied by BTS fans
I hope you react to more bigbang and not videos focused on seungri :) ‘What happened to BIGBANG’ by InternetsNathan is a good video talking about their history
I’m a fan of BigBang from 2009 and it’s okay to cancel seungri (the one who have burning sun scandal) but T.O.P is having a big burden as an idol and what he’s doing is just smoking for himself. I’m happy that T.O.P came back ❤
Morning from Singapore… I love BB but that “who shall not be named”, I don’t like him… From the start I don’t like him… He seems really dodgy to me… The other 4 members’ scandals; personally, I think it’s personal struggles to fame… TOP (squid game dude) he was under so much pressure that he almost overdosed on sleeping pills after the joint incident😢… I am furious at “the one who shall not be named” for all the crap he did which affected the rest of the members…
Too deep a trench to dig into right? But BB came out with really good music… MADE album is dope… give a listen… now other VIPs are just waiting for TOP to get back to his group when he is ready… OT4… 💜
Why are you saying lies🙄???... It wasn't Seungri who tried to ruin BIGBANG🙄.. It was sensational Kmedia if you are VIPs you might remember how kmedia was after every of them starting from Seunghyun then Jiyong not giving him a calm day, kmedia was everyday sharing stuff about GD at his military service they even hired someone to take pictures of GD body while he was in his service🙄... Dont forget how kmedia lied about Seungri being the LEE in the group Chat when actually it was LEE JUNHYUNG not Lee Seungri🙄... Or when Kmedia spread lies about the criminal activities in Daesung building🙄.. Use your brain and point your finger in the right direction🙄
Why are you saying lies🙄???... It wasn't Seungri who tried to ruin BIGBANG🙄.. It was sensational Kmedia if you are VIPs you might remember how kmedia was after every of them starting from Seunghyun then Jiyong not giving him a calm day, kmedia was everyday sharing stuff about GD an his military life that even hired someone to take pictures of GD body while he was in his service🙄... Dont forget how kmedia lied about Seungri being the LEE in the group Chat when actually it was LEE JUNHYUNG not Lee Seungri🙄... Or when Kmedia spread lies about Daesung and the criminal activities in his building🙄.. Use your brain and point your finger in the right direction🙄
I was with you until the end, when you sounded like a baby ARMY.
I suggest listening to OG ARMY. They're the ones with a brain.
I am happy that T.O.P. is back though, in my eyes, his scandal shouldn't be taken so seriously considering that a lot of the world today uses weed for medical purposes..
He has however stated that he doesn't want anything to do with his former members and group, to which I can understand :/ He wants a clean slate and it feels good seeing him active again.
Somehow you skipped over the G-Dragon situation in the army right after the T.O.P. story.
Cut him some slack he's still learning❤
ANY kind of drug in S Korea is a cultural no no. It is highly looked down on. Doesn't matter what it is, Koreans are not tolerant of any drug use.
Thank you for taking time to look into their scandals for yourself.
I love BigBang and will continue to support the 4 members whole heartedly. I support them as they are human and have apologized and tried to make amends for their errors. As an american, ive seen our celebrities and policitans do far worse and be held to less accountability than to what GD, Taeyang, T.O.P, and Daesung have.
I refuse to acknowledge that piece of trash that was a part of them, but also recognize that he is still part of their past. SA is disgusting, and those that commit it, including using their power and influence to further it, are the lowest of low. He deserves to have been punished a lot more than what he was.
As for the others, my heart had always hurt for them for being targeted for their drug scandals, but that is because i am an American fan and several of our actors and singers have done and used way more than grass (TOP) or accused of using it in G-Dragons case. The pressures, criticisms and vitriol theyve faced would push many to taking their lives (which has happened to many idols for not living up to the perfect standards placed upon them by knetizens and media). I get that laws are different in South Korea regarding drug use, which is why other idols like Bom have come under fire (in her case, it was for using and importing medication that she was perscribed in the US for a health condition that was considered contraband/drugs in SK). G-Dragon has been tested nunerous times, but nothing. T.O.P has long dealt with anxiety and he chose one way to deal with it, was it the healthiest, no, but he apologized and admitted his wrong doing.
Ive had to remind myself that the culture they live in vs what i live in as a fan are vastly different, and what is nornal to me (grass is legal in my state), isnt the case there.
Please look more into the birning sun scandal, either from the bbc or Miss Stephanie Soo. It was awful, and demonstrates how power and a misogynistic culture are damaging and dangerous to those who are seen as less than.
Im not aure if this is making any sense, i just have so many thoughts and emotions tryibg to be expressed.
You should watch the deep dive rotten mango did on the burning sun
a documentary means having sources to back it up which she dont but i get it you haters pick what to believe so you can justify crying at famous people.
I can't say much about the members except that I remember when the scandal hit and the (dust) started to clear, TOP was the first and LOUDEST to distance himself. GD was pretty loud too about how they TRIED to warn people. I think I just respected TOP more cos he was like 'F*ck this shit' and left Big Bang.
That he is continuing to do well makes me happy, even if I was never a BB fan.
Please check BigBang - Still Life. those was 4 member, no seungri in.
i never liked big bang due to the past between bts and big bang and armys and vips (big bang fans) but also due to the scandals i never dove deep into any of them until rotten mango got big and i now realized taeyang, g dragon and top are good people who have made some mistakes but shouldnt be treated the same as the burning sun guy. im not familiar with daesung so idk about him i wont treat him like the other guy tho.
i especially gained respect for taeyang with how much he seemed to mov past the 'tension' between bts and big bang by possibly apologizing in private because bts dont show kindness fully to people who did them wrong its very kind up front but dont talk to me after this example with the guy who refused jungkooks burger and the guy who jin called out for ignoring bts when they greeted him in 2013 theyre very smiley and kind but you get a sense of its strictly professional not 'i forgave you' similar with james corden. but with taeyang and g dragon it feels genuinely like they all moved past it and would like to cross paths happily now.
i also gained respect for g dragon after watching the rotten mango episode about the parasite actor and im so glad g dragon had good support and didnt allow media, public or police to isolate him like they did with lee. that whole situation was messed up and while big bang members may have flaws compared to most idols i think at least those 3 members deserve support from global fans if they cant get it in korea. again idk about daesang but if similar to the other 3 then him too.
Sorry can i know when Taeyang apologize to bts or their fans maybe?
@@kresspqressie7722 taeyang didnt apologize to armys. he did nothing to armys directly. i dont know for a fact that he and bts apologized to each other or not but it seems that way with how friendly they were before the members enlisted.
anyways i only know of 1 or 2 things related to bts and big bang where armys werent happy at how big bang members treated bts when they were rookies. example the no signal screen bts used and big bang staff and members family members claimed it was plagiarism which caused vips to attack bts even tho 1 you cant own no signal screen and 2 it was the award show that put up the graphics not bts or bighit.
maybe big bang members had no contribution and their staff and family did it on their own but they couldve spoken up clearing the air so vips wouldnt hate on bts for it.
but i feel like they cleared that up recently which is why they bonded and made content together or allowed themselves to be seen together talking at events etc
it isnt a big deal now but it was back then when bts were small and so were armys and you know how knetz are over the smallest things. so armys held a grudge or bad taste about big bang for that alone as well as rumors about how g dragon mocked suga when i think the translation may have been off or expressed in a negative way when he may have just asked a question due to sugas clothing looking cool but being that the clothes were not name brand and 14 dollars suga or whoever translated it couldve taken it as mocking suga and bts for not having money again that one is small and iffy but at the time it was big due to the amount of hate bts got since their debut and got more and more as they got bigger.
but ive seen bts members with g dragon, with taeyang so at the very least theyre on good terms with these two members and they still respect the groups legacy even if we all ignore that member. the other 4 seem ok. some armys may never let it go but some are like me who follow what bts do in terms of being happy theyre interacting with celebrities. im sure many armys are also vips. and im sure many vips are armys. i do think the beef between fandoms has lessened over the years especially after 2022 - 2023 of interactions between the groups. especially when compared to other fandoms armys have issues with like blinks or exo-ls. vips are not at the top of the list anymore so i think thats progress and should be seen as a good thing that most of the fandoms have moved on. hope this clears things up. and if you disagree with anything thats okay but i dont want to debate it as its in the past now. :)
What???? Taeyang did not apologise to Bts!!! He didn't do anything wrong!!! Why should he apologise???!!! You are so delusional
@@itaatisa8357 i never said he did anything wrong you need to read better.
i said they possibly got past their differences from the past because things DID occur. maybe it wasnt him directly but family members shading another group publicly calls for an apology to those effected as it put a target on their back for their fans to attack them for "stealing" something that wasnt original to begin with.
if my sibling caused someone to get hate i would apologize on their behalf to the effected person regardless if it was my fault or not. and regardless of what is or isnt true they clearly all moved past it which is why they were seen being friendly and making content together. otherwise they would never agree to do that if they didnt resolve what happened. youre delusional for thinking your fave isnt respectful to apologize even if he did nothing wrong directly. makes him look bad to pretend it didnt happen than saying he probably resolved it privately with bts.
@@tastefullyrics4895 actually from family and proper ethical what u said true. Before this, im certain not only bigbang but 2nd gen fans, don't accuse other artist or even rookies. It's clearly back then social media just growing and any media just focus to real scandal just like drugs or hit people on the road too. So im not sure what u said its actually happened. It can be someone just spreading misinformstion and immature fans believe it right away without crosscheck the rumor.
However if thats true (i'm not trying to defend, i just want to tell how things works on that industry). From entertainment professional side, bigbang not have any power to apologize or defending themself, if CEO of agency don't give them permission. Even when they become powerful CEO still can't do anything about them. CEO and staff never letting their artist apologize for other people's mistakes on their behalf even if drags their name, they will shut down the artist to not appear in media for a while no matter what reason they give to media.
U know in that entertainment side, The CEO also not speak up for artist problem (even the artist itself wrong or true that doesn't matter. Right or wrong not existed in gossips) especially if its about negative things that can lead fans war or media bullying targets (cause wrong steps will lead them to cancel culture and decrease their bussiness. Any artists in any agencies just money makers at this rate)
It's bussiness. BUT I believe all artist interaction can be happen behind camera/off camera. They have their life too. We outside their lifestyle won't know about it until they bring it to camera or their account or story when they come as guest on the show.
Which is if bigbang ever apologize too, it can be happen at off camera. And BTS also maybe won't speak up about it because they respect their senior so much.
Again idk about case what u told me, how it can be happend. As if its true. People don't have right to holding a grudge after several years. Especially to their Idols senior. Fans war just can make their idols relationship with other artist (even maybe actor) a bit far or awkward.
I can accept what u said is true. And we can't also do anything from it. But what with armies who attack BP or seventeen fans and few days ago attack stray kids fandom? (Pls idk what their fandom name) Do other group also did samething like bigbang, like what u told me here? I'm so confused really with fan wars. Especially when 3rd gen started and it's still happen until now in 5th gens era.
And often bring army to it. I honestly feel sad for BTS bcs often armies always in gossip with any fandom war in it. Just why? Idk im very confused with all of these fan wars situation.
Yes, you should watch the Burning Sun scandal.
No Matter what happen to Seungri, we VIP’s have our 100% support for him. BIGBANG is not BIGBANG without him. That’s why his seniors had many Times warm him about the circles of friends he had because they believe they had a BAD influence to him and IT came true. This case is a matter of “ you need to be mindful of the people that you allow to enter in your life. Choose your circle of friends wisely. People makes mistake, we are just human. WE do not tolerate him but we Will be here for Seungri now and forever. Will never leave just like How they change my life with their music. #KINGSOFKPOP ¥#BIGBANG
Yup. Burning Sun. Rotten Mango (Stephanie Soo) did a really good deep dive into it. They are very long UA-cam videos but very informative! Definitely watch Big Bang’s recent comeback! Big Bang has a MASSIVE influence music wise in K-pop including our 7 humble, kind kings BTS.
a documentary means having sources to back it up which she dont but i get it you haters pick what to believe so you can justify crying at famous people.
As several comments have already said, Rotten Mango has 2 very in depth videos that deep dive into the Burning Sun scandal. They are very long, so even if you watch them on your own time, it’s definitely worth it
a documentary means having sources to back it up which she dont but i get it you haters pick what to believe so you can justify crying at famous people.
You HAVE to learn about the whole Burning Sun scandal it’s truly the most horrific incident in kpop history.
I would highly recommend you the videos of Stephanie Soo cuz she explains everything just the way it was with the correct timeline,details and background to everything
It's not fake. He is a creep.
You should definitely check out more about the Burning Sun, because even the second video you watched understated how bad it was and just how much all the perpetrators involved got away with (SK doesn't have great laws against sexual abuse)
they do anyone who was there can confirm this but you follow problematic channels so you dont know better.
@@pruitv4 ??
"The only scandal they can find on them is a scooter" true, but you'll never know. A lot of fans though this about a lot of celebrities, only to be disappointed when they realized they are humans, or worst, monsters. I'm hoping I'll never hear BTS members or any others did something wrong, but I'm not going to believe there never will be something.
Do watch the BBC Documentary on Burning Sun because it is done by credited journalists who have taken the time to gather information. As for the weed, Korea has very strict laws on drugs, in fact most antidepressants are illegal and never prescribed.
Korean Idols should always have a clean image of no drugs, no drinking, no smoking, no dating and it's an extreme cancel culture
a documentary means having sources to back it up which they dont but i get it you haters pick what to believe so you can justify crying at famous people.
I love Bigbang (besides the one other member, but people usually ignore him when he pops up in videos.)
TOP sadly went through a lot and doesn't want to be associated with Big bang, but I hope he is able to come back at some point. The other three still want to include him in the group. (TOP I mean).
I would love for you to react to a guide of TXT (the younger "brothers" of BTS and the only other group under Bighit). The best guide is "The Ultimate Guide to TXT" by Beomie Bear. it looks like an update is coming soon, but I also love this version.
They are definitely equally as sincere as BTS. I think they were able to get through the extreme stress of being the next group under BTS and were able to create their own lane instead of riding off of BTS (if that makes sense).
I love big bang. I was not a fan of Seungri in the beginning. One bad member does not take away from them. I love G- dragon, Taeyang, TOP, and Daesang. Their older stuff was really good. But I am an ARMY first and foremost. 💜
1 thing you should know is that bigbang is and will always be 4 (T.O.P & G-dragon & Taeyang & Daesung), they are OT4 ,every member is for OT4, we don't talk about the other awfull person that was in this group neither do bigbang, WE DO NOT SUPPORT THAT MONSTER. Bigbang are the OG's, honestly the blueprint, they are the IDOL of idols, They are Legends bigbang have gone through hell all the members have but especially T.O.P & G-dragon ,Korea really mistreated them so badly while knowing they struggled a lot in the idol life and just made up lies in media, there are some really passionnate haters out there. Bigbang OT4 deserve the absolute world, I will always support them and they deserve the best, Korea should be shameful of their treatement of them. Here are some cool facts you probably don't know;
1/ Bigbang invented the lightsticks, they were the 1st and also brought the idea to light. Same reason why their lightsticks are crowns bc they are the KINGS of Kpop.
2/ T.O.P is the first underground rapper turned idol in kpop.
3/ Bigbang is the first group to start writing and producing their own music
4/Bigbang is the first boy group to dye their hair bright unusual colors
5/ First kpop idol groupto collaberate with western artist. some examples(gdragon collaberated a lot) Flo rida, Justin bieber, Snoopdog, Missy Elliot and many more
6/First kpop group to win an international award. (MTV against britney spears)
7/ They inroduced the concept of "mini album series" to kpop
8/The first idol group to have rapline. The OG DUO RAPLINE, absolute legends gdragon & T.O.P (funfact the history of gd and top goes deep, they have been friends since they were like 7 years old, they were neighbours at the time, they used to make music and raps together as kids at each others houses, when GD went to the agency to become a group, he convinced TOP to do too.
AND MANY MORE
you were asked to back up your claims which you couldnt you were given proof that seungri was never accused of harming someone and you were given proof that bigbang themselves still say ot5 but you keep running away simply because you are a hater.
@@pruitv4 YOU HAVE ZERO PROOF, I have police report, video evidence, HE HAS BEEN GUILTY CHARGED WITH ARRANGING PROSTITUES BY THE COURT OF LAW. He has been sentenced, what more proof do you need? He could probably SA someone right before your EYES and wouldn't matter to you bc that how cr*zy you are to think you know better THAN THE LITERAL COURT EVIDENCE. I have back ups for all my claims, you can search it up yourself, keep stalking btw I don't mind putting you in your PLACE. Ps*cho, you are legit RUINING BB, but to be too prideful or everything wr*ng in your head to realize it.
@pruitv4 go look at the court evidence and the sentencing he got, and was found GUILTY.go argue with the wall you st*lker. YOU haven't asked me ANYTHING certainly wouldn't answer if it ain't in a respectful way. You are po*son to BB with all your lies
VIPs don't acknowledge that monster anymore. Many are making OT4 MV edits
It's all B.S. Do you notice they just say he's involved but never said how what who. What is the crime? What crime was committed? Holding a party, inviting girls to a party, what is the crime? Owning 5 percents of a club but does not involve in management while the real owner of the club plead guilty to soliciting prostitute but received no jail time then apologize to him for dragging him down just because he's the face of the club? For being in a group chat in which one of the members had another group chat that share clips and being used as the cover of the news when never being in the group chat, never film any women, and absolutely never SA anyone? I did not watch the BBC doc and will not, it's a waste of time. It talks about the AS case which does not involve Seungri at all. And it shows some clip showing SR fooling around with a girl on a yacht, (Yes they were fooling around, the girl was SR's friend of more than 10 years) So that is evidence? All these u-tubers and all the people in this comment section fail the reading a single court document test.
A Korean lawyer was on u-tube reporting his case. He explained that SR was innocent and showed the evidence. I think he believed that SR would be found not guilty. He would like to believe his country court system is fair but he was disappointed.
I see that you are very excited when you're talking about these so-called scandals. Like most people the bigger the scandal the better. They even sound the same saying people like me are delulu. It's very very sad! Can't people see what the K-media and these content creators do? They literally destroy people's lives and kill some.
5 minutes after Squid Game 2's release, negative articles about TOP appear in Korea criticizing his performance in it when TOP does not appear until episode 3. What did he do? He smoked some weed 8 years ago. They're still trying to cancel him. He's not the only one in Squid Game who has Scandals. Is that proportional?
Go ahead and enjoy more of these videos. There are thousands of them. I know this mean nothing to you and people don't care. I'm sorry I'm just very angry.
Hey Nesto! I hope your weather is better than mine. 😂 It's been snowing all day! 😮❤❤❤ The Burning Sun scandal had to with drugs and sexual assault. I recommend Rotten Mango for the documentary about Burning Sun!!!!
That's not true🙄.. There's so much misinformation in that video from Rotten... We all VIPs followed Seungri case, Burning Sun case and The Group Chat case... In Burning Sun there's only drugs case actually the CEO and an employee were jailed for providing drugs to the Club clients.. The Group Chat case the idols involved( Jung Joon Young and Choi Jong Hoon(leader of FTISLAND), and Lee Jonghyun from CNBLUE) were sentenced with really short jail time that the victims were forced by that outcome to do a petition to send at the Blue House(the Korean version of White House😑) sadly nobody of those people that were claiming "think to the victims" signed the petition or helped the victims😤..... People were to busy blaming Seungri a guy that wasn't part of that group chat, of SA, raped, drugs and many other things that never were allegations against him... Seungri's only allegations about Burning Sun is embezzlement🙄.. He was in a work chat but nothing really happened here kmedia came after him just because he shared a naked back of a woman that was already used as logo for club in Singapore..funny thing is that Korean Court didn't allow proofs or foreign witnesses so for him was really hard prove his innocence🙄
a documentary means having sources to back it up which she dont but i get it you haters pick what to believe so you can justify crying at famous people.
Wasn’t there also a scandal with Daesung an a motorcyclist? It’s like a fever dream, I remember this from waayyy back in the day but no one ever seems to mention it anymore.
@dyhkpopedition1736 I think you are referring to that one fatal accident which he was involved in? According to the news, the motorcyclist was already tested to have a blood alcohol level exceeding the acceptable range before he crashed into a street lamp by himself, and Daesung (who did not drink) unfortunately ran him over a few minutes after that. There was no evidence showing that the victim was alive before Daesung ran into him so the charges were dropped. IIRC Daesung was really affected by the incident and basically disappeared from variety shows for a good while. The first time I saw him reappear on a major network broadcasting station was on How Do You Play (MBC) which was like almost 10+ years after the incident.
it is all true
Im sorry for Top really 🥹
Rotten mango is amazing and did a video on the burning sun incident and to get a clear understanding of how bad and deep it is you really should watch it
a documentary means having sources to back it up which she dont but i get it you haters pick what to believe so you can justify crying at famous people.
As a huge BigBang fan (I got a tattoo of their last album) it was so out of left field that this super popular group would all suddenly be a part of scandals.
The issue is Koreas laws are not the best when it comes to certain issues. Drugs are seen as horrible and you're outcast from society for doing them (even prescribed drugs like Adderall are illegal, so if you are prescribed outside of korea and are found taking them, the news calls you a druggie; this happened to fellow YG musician Park Bom of 2NE1).
But sex scandals are treated much differently, and I believe it is because a lot of Men hold power and view women as objects. It's more life ruining if a girl says she was assaulted, but the man isn't held accountable.
BigBang as a group are what made YG what they are, so if they did anything suspicious, they were seen as kings falling from grace. TOP is one of them, and most recently before the MAMA2024 performance GD was also accused of smoking weed.
If I like AI, I would ask someone to redo all BigBang songs without Seungri, but unfortunately he is a part of their past.
If you do see the MAMA performance, you will still hear TOPs voice in the recording while they perform, but they completely skipped Seungris part. This sparks some hope that the 4 of them will make music again and be free from so much hate.
(Early kpop, pre-BTS, was kinda wild, with a lot of idols taking their lives due to pressure of fans and media, so while disgusting as Seungri and Burning Sun were, it all seemed bad back then and this just added to the fire.)
PS if any seungri lovers try to come here and say he made a mistake, you need help.
Yup i smoke only because I don't take pain medicine I have RA and FIBROMYALGIA ETC.
I’m just glad you didn’t write off BigBang because of that one member. ❤
no one is its just you haters who never liked this group anyway because everyone else can accept the evidence that he never harmed someone.
@ wtf how did my comment make me a hater.
11:33 He is the PDiddy of South Korea and it is ridiculous how he barely got any real sentencing especially since he is how going to other countries and trying to open up a club there. Other members were cleared and even before they debuted, they wanted to debut as 4 members because they have been friends for years (but YG had to add Seungri 🙄). T.O.P is on longer with them because of how much he got hate from knetz and kmedia, got blacklisted, and needed space (also so his members aren’t affected by this hate). But we still consider him as a Big Bang member and hope he will be back making music. And Seungri was always the LEAST talented, unique and popular so people often said he felt inferior to his members because each of them had been doing well even outside of the group unlike him.
he gambled once and proof was shown to you many times but as a hater you cant accept it and run away without backing up your story and talentwise youre still wrong hes still part of the reason why they are the kings of kpop this just further shows that youre a liar
@pruitv4 Please stop being delusional. Call me whatever you want; I am indeed HIS hater that I am not denying, so move on. You would make a good couple with him, so I hope he will give you a chance. You will cover up all of his crimes and keep sucking up to him ☺️ Be blessed with your delusions, messed up morals and a criminal for a celebrity.
Funny Nesto ,I wonder with all that has been revealed about so many of our music industry's celebrities, and other big wigs from our country being deviants, how many other viewers got that same Diddy vibe, after following this story. It was said he invited important people from other countries to his partying. Was he encouraged by something he was finding out about, by these big name important people. They always say people of a feather flock together. 😮😢❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤🎉😊
Definitely check out the Burning Sun scandal. As someone has said Rotten Mango covers it very well
a documentary means having sources to back it up which she dont but i get it you haters pick what to believe so you can justify crying at famous people.
@pruitv4 He was literally convicted. Not just accused. You can't get someone in jail without evidence ... and the BBC documentary also has evidence. I know you need evidence because SA happened to me in South Korea.
@ and yet thats what happens many times all around the world same with him only that he still was never even accused of harming someone and no that shady media does not have any evidence they just have some actors playing victim who cant even back up their stories nor show that they have ever met seungri or ever were in that club.
and yet thats what happens many times all around the world same with him only that he still was never even accused of harming someone and no that shady media does not have any evidence
they just have some bought people playing victim who cant even back up their stories nor show that they have ever met seungri or ever were in that club.
As what Americans n others loves,,,, reading the titles only. Lol…
Definitely check out the BBC doc on the burning sun. It's insane!
a documentary means having sources to back it up which they dont but i get it you haters pick what to believe so you can justify crying at famous people.
No need to be so rude. I just mentioned to check it out. Who's hating??
@ if you bring up a shady media and their baseless story then you are a hater because they too cant even back up their fairytale.
Definitely isn't baseless. But whatever you say 🤷🏻♀️
for me TOP is still have chance to comeback as group in BB. for seungri is no no. BB is good as 4 member. but if they feelin it good with situation right now its okay, we should respect their choice :)
ok so it's definitely not fake and not something to push in the past..
I hate that you always bring in BTS along with Yg groups video! Bts fandom is very insecure of Yg groups especially Bigbang & Blackpink! I hate unnecessary drama they always bring in please keep it separated
Maybe you can just react to their comeback and the solo stuff of the members, excluding THAT person. I've become really fond of G-Dragon recently.
Fr his the korean diddy
BTS is soft....idolized Bigbang and never made it to their level. Popstars will never be held up in the same regard as rockstars. While BTS is a boy group, Bigbang is a dude group with more guy fans than girl fans. Bigbang is the only group of rockstars. If it wasn't for Covid, Bigbang was set for Coachella as a 4 member group.
Right now, Stray Kids are the closest to being a dude group along with Treasure...guys that aren't necessarily following trends and could care less what others think.
My comment keeps getting deleted anytime i try to link Rotten Mangos video for her deep dive into the Burning Sun scandal. But she does an amazing job covering it all the horrible situation that it is and its a 3 part deep dive. Check it out she did an amazing job
a documentary means having sources to back it up which she dont but i get it you haters pick what to believe so you can justify crying at famous people.
Seems like theres a lot to g misinformations here….
If you want to just accept what news say its up to you!!!!! But see BluePhoenix too
El cometio un error que en la juventud casi todos cometemos pero practicamente alla es como haber cometido un pecado capital fue horrible el hate que la prensa y muchos coreanos le lanzaron fue espantososin embargo estamos orgullosos de el porque muchos Idols no pudieron soportar la presion y se suicidaron el se mantuvio firme soportando todo au n hoy se lo restregan en la cara odio a esos haters
So Seungri, we are calling him "The Loser". He cannot comeback any Korea entertainment. However, He is mentioning or selling name of Bigbang southeast asia some reason.
he can and no he is living quietly you just believe the baseless lies from known problematic channels who already got exposed for lying he gambled once which was proved and never was accused of harming someone thats why bigbang still say ot5 as we can see in still life and home sweet home.
Please don't check out the Burning Sun scandal. Don't become one of those negative attention seeking channels. You are way too positive for this stuff.
Rotten Mango has a 3 part series on the Burning Sun scandal. Highly recommend it if you haven't seen it already.
Rotten mango is as rotten as her name for spreading lies.
are you another alt of hers or why would you promote that rotten thing who makes fun of victims all the time and already got exposed for telling only lies about the burning sun case and even drags haras name just for cliicks.
rotten mango and kookielit were xpsd countless times for their missinformation especially on this subject because they know many inetz cant accept that bigbang are the kings of kpop even most of the ones here who try to look nice and at the same time still show their true personality with still trying to keep seungris hate train going who literally disproved most of the accusations of which none exist of anything you saw here hope you wont give in to just satisfy those kind of people and become another cloutchasing hater.
TOP deserves better! ❤️
Before believing stupid UA-cam videos, you should do a little research. Seungri had NOTHING to do with the whole Burning Sun thing. ZERO. I will give you FACTS from court proceedings and WITNESS STATEMENTS.
1. Seungri NEVER shared a video of photograph in chat rooms.
2. Seungri NEVER solicited hookers. The hookers themselves testified in court it was someone else and the guy who actually solicited them also testified in court.
3. Seungri NEVER did illegal gambling. HABITUAL gambling in a foreign country is illegal in SK. His attorneys showed proof he gambled a couple times over multiple years which is NOT habitual.
4. Seungri NEVER hired thugs to either intimidate or beat up anyone. The guys the police CLAIMED were threatened and beat up in the club testified they NEVER got threatened or beat up.
5. Seungri NEVER assaulted any female in any way.
6. Witnesses testified that police altered their written statements and asked leading questions attempting to get them to incriminate Seungri.
7. Witnesses testified that police and prosecutors intimidated ant threatened them to change their statements.
8. The actual owners of the Burning Sun testified that Seunri NEVER embezzled funds from the club.
9. Police stated that Seungri fully cooperated with them in all investigations and the court even denied multiple arrest warrants due to a severe lack of evidence.
10. The current president of SK, who has had one scandal after another was the Prosecutor General at the time and was embroiled in a major scandal at the time. He pushed for Seungri, the most high profile of the people under investigation at the time, to be the main focus of everything. A tactic he has used multiple times over the years to distract from his own scandals. (the GD and Lee Sun Kyun lies being a more recent one that led to Sun Kyun taking his own life)
11. Seungri stated that things were going good when suddenly he was "coerced, threatened and bullied to plead guilty or spend the rest of his life in prison".
12. Of ALL the men involved in the REAL Burning Sun scandal, NOT ONE OF THEM got jail time. Every one of them got suspended sentences and probation. These are men who DID share videos and photos, DID hire hookers, DID hire thugs, etc. And they got probation. Seungri, the most famous of them all, got jail time. THIS was a set-up from day one to distract from one in a long line of scandals in the SK government and to appease the Korean people by getting SOMEONE convicted.
13, Burning Sun WAS NOT OWNED BY SEUNGRI. HER ENTIRE VIDEO IS LIES FROM BEGINNING TO END.
ALL OF THE ABOVE ARE FACTS AND SEUNGRI'S CAREER, REPUTATION AND LIFE WERE RUINED BECAUSE OF IT.
I'm with you 100% on T.O.P., it's weed. While I understand the laws in Korea are different, I can't help but find it funny the irony in their excessive drinking culture being okay but smoking weed is bad. It confuses me. I don't even mention the former member who is just money & power hungry and a sick person, he's a weakest member of Big Bang and didn't even deserve to be there. Now G-Dragon, Taeyang (young bae) and DAESUNG (D-lite) are performing and I'm totally behind them, hoping that TOP joins them again.
Why my comment get deleted!!!!! For seungri case its two side od story!!!! If you want to know more tell me
TOP doesnt get paid for squid games. He hopes that it will help him get back into the industry after being blacklisted by SK.
But they went ridiculously crazy at him for weed compared to Seungri and other really big crimes.. that with the pressure he almost self exited.
The pressure they put on some Kpop groups is ridiculous. Especially for 2nd Gen and 3rd Gen. my group GOT7 also had a lot to work hard and stay out of a scandal. And always apologizing if the outcome we as fans were expecting like if it is an award or more votes or whatever.. saying they will work even harder.
That’s the hard thing to watch with kpop industry.
I do hope that big bang will come together as a group of 4 with TOP returning. Him and GD are my favs from the group.
Pls check the Back Story of TOP