What I Look for in a Camp Site [You're Making These Mistakes]
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- Опубліковано 3 чер 2024
- Having the skills, knowledge and instinct to select a good campsite can make the difference between a miserable trip and a truly life changing experience.
So in this video I’m sharing 3 major things that I keep in mind when I’m looking for an ideal alpine campsite.
And some of these may surprise you....
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wildlife well-being: camping near water spots in water-scarce areas can prevent wildlife from watering at night. it’s much better to camp as far away as possible from water spots in these situations
So true about feeling right in a place.Tried several places last week til one felt right, I felt safe there. It doesn't really matter what it is, I know if I don't feel safe or don't feel right, it will nag at me anyway, but gut instinct is good.
I don't camp near water because of Leave No Trace - too easy to pollute lakes and waterways, and also they are a risk in themselves - flash floods, tides, etc.
camping near water --> condensation -->wet tent / cold
camping in a meadow --> condensation -->wet tent / cold
camping in a forest --> less condensation but keep an eye on dead branches on the trees above you dangerous when windy
had to add :)
And acorns and birds! I had a problem with both one of the time camping under a tree, like the oak tree was trying to target me! And a bird nearly got me too...that was messy.
This is great advice. I find that I follow the same principles, even though I never explicitly thought about it. The only thing I do differently is, I carry a fairly warm mat, so that I can sleep in exposed placed with a lot of wind (also carry earplugs and wear them every night). Setting up camp and sleeping in exposed and dramatic spots is one of the main reasons I love trekking so so much. I don't want to be limited in my camp choices by carrying a sleep system that is 300g lighter than what I use now.
But apart from that, I wholeheartedly agree to everything you say in this video =)
Whoever was in charge of picking some of the "designated" campsites around me that you have to stay at in those forests did an awful job. Had more than one experience where I passed countless great locations throughout the day just to arrive at my reserved campsite to swarms of mosquitos, 40mph gusts coming down off the ridges, or it being flooded. Then you get to play the fun game of "is this bad enough to justify being woken up by a ranger".
Well, that’s the benefit of critically underfunded national parks. 😂
Thermal inversion is real. In Catalonia sometimes if you look at meteocat in the morning, one of the coldest meteo stations (specially in winter) is the station in the bottom of the Cerdanya Valley (Das Aeròdrom), with values lower than the ones at 2.600 m.
This man's way of life speaks to my soul! I absolutely can't wait for my backpack and tent to get here. I'm going in the woods and I'm NOT coming out!!!
Skurka has a good video on this with Sierra Designs but that was almost 5 years ago. Glad to see this again. Also sometimes the view is worth the colder areas.
Skurka has some mad knowledge I’d love to do some of his trips and soak it all in
Not camping as much I would like these days, but when I did, had same principals - guide lines as you stated. And then I was 16 - 20 years young. Now I am almost 50. Still day dreaming of hiking & camping. Unfortunately my life does not allow it. Yet
As always great discussion points, well thought out discussion on choosing the ideal camp site. I’m currently downgraded to a 1person tent for the reason of camp site selection. Sometimes areas are great but a bit small due to footprint of tent. Great video, hope everyone is having a great weekend and getting out. 🤙🏽
Most important factor is lay-of-ground. Imagine what a deluge would do to prospective ground. Will water pool-up or run-off? Are there slopes above that could drain into campsite and where will runoff from your own tent go? A slight mound or promontory is nice. Second is foliage-overhead. Definitely watch out for widow-makers, but foliage overhead will virtually eliminate condensation (especially out US-West where clear skies block nothing). Even in US-East, foliage overhead blocks hail and turns pounding rain into gentle drops. Of course foliage is easier to find in US-East.
Third is distance to water, as Mr Chase discussed. How much distance? Normally twenty-feet vertical is plenty, or 20yds past lush grass. Upwind of water's bugs is preferable, of course.
Really good information. The last bit about intuition is spot on.
thanks
Love your tips, especially the intuition.
It's not just Eucalyptus forest wherein you'd avoid camping under branches.....If camping under any trees you need to first make sure your not bedding down under 'dead' branches!
Great video, very informative. Thank you!
Fantastic tips, really well said!
Great advise, thank you!!
Thanks! Good tips. I can't wait to get out there and screw things up! Happy Hiking. :)
Just found your channel man, contents dope dude! Helping me prep for Pyrenees and Himalaya’s coming up! Cheers legend 👊 🇦🇺
Thanks!
We call the analogous tree situation "widow-makers" in the US also, at least in eastern forests like along the Appalachian Trail.
We said it first. 😎
It is also important to avoid Katabatic/catabatic winds which are a risk at the mid altitudes.
.... Excellent video .. Experienced backpackers will learn these tips over time ,, some a little longer than others ...
It took me long enough 😂 still learning every time I go out
I like the new designed intro even though the old one was pretty neat already and I’ll miss it.
Also the new cameras or lenses or whatever you‘ve upgraded are neat and the quality has visibly improved. Just one advice (from a casual viewer and no professional by all means): when talking to the camera in front and making a cut to the next camera filming you from the side it feels kind of strange to watch you talking into a different direction. The different angle is a cool new feature but for instance tv show moderators always try to look into the camera that is active at that moment in this or that angle. You know? I feel like it is more ..like you are talking to me, not to the camera. 0:48
Probably hard to manage these things when you don’t know how you‘ll end up cutting the filmed interview. Maybe shoot the whole thing twice and look into a different camera each take. That‘s what I would try…
Anyway, just a thought on the changes you‘ve added.
Big fan, keep up the phenomenal work, my guy!!
Greetings from Germany
Have a good one! :)
Intuition and connection to a site is most important to me, for safety and enjoyment.
Hey Chase! We're planning to do the Western Arthur traverse in December and it always saddens me to hear your disclaimer at the start that your video doesn't apply to Australia and Tassie haha. Maybe you'd be able to comment on how an UL tent such as the Durston X-Mid 2P would hold up on that trek. I"m trying to cut weight and going from my Exped Venus II to the X-Mid 2P (not the pro) and have some anxiety going to a trekking pole tent for those conditions. Always love your work mate!
Hey broski, awesome that you are going to western Arthur’s. I don’t think you’ll have too much of an issue with big eucalypt beaches out there so you should be fine. I understand why you would be nervous about the xmid tho, tassie is brutal. It should be fine just be very careful with it. I’ll be interested to here how it holds up so let me know. Venus 2 will be pretty heavy so I understand why you’d take the xmid.
An X-Mid would be fine with some care and being sensible. We took our Tarptent Double Rainbow Li and it held off some genuinely shocking weather and wind, especially at High Moor and Haven Lake (all the platforms were full). Just be sensible and use extra guy lines where necessary. The forest camps in the Plains - Junction Creek, Wullyara Creek and Seven Mile - are all pretty safe in terms of potential tree falls. Flooding is more of a concern. Probably the best advice I could give tent wise for the Western Arthurs is to take the smallest footprint tent you can get away with, pitching space can be at a real premium especially over Jan-Feb.
@@headwerkn Awesome advice thanks for the insight. We’ve booked to go over Christmas so hopefully not too many people contesting the platforms! Those Durston footprints are definitely not small but hopefully having two people per tent will justify the footprint
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I like to camp with a hammock
1.1kg, not touching the floor, easy setup, mosquito net, rain cover ...
very practical.
but i would've expected you to put flood prevention first, since you use floorless shelter and having puddle pooling under the canopy isnt' fun at all. or stream running along.
Not too much chance of that happening in the Pyrenees but in other places like Tasmania or New Zealand for example, it’s a primary concern for sure
If you don't have a bugnet and camp in forested areas, how do you deal with ticks? I'm about to get into tarp camping and given the crazy numbers of ticks I encounter here in Spain's Northwest I don't think I could camp without e.g. a bug bivy...
I’ve never had a tick in Spain. Maybe I’m just lucky.
Ticks love long grass, at least the deer sort we have here. So definitely avoid long grass, or wear long trousers and sweep them as you enter your tent or go along for any clinging on. I suspect camping in dead leaves would be safer because ticks like to catch a ride from long grass or green plants, the stuff the animals like is where the tick knows will get a meal. Dead leaves...less likely I suspect. Also covering thr ground, or indeed a bugnet. I can't camp without a inner - not so much ticks as midges and spiders.
I have a bit of a problem with this video. You live in Barcelona, Spain you say your experience is based on the Pyrenees. The Pyrenees are in France and Spain. Wild camping is illegal in both France and Spain, you don't get to choose where you camp, you need to camp in allowed locations so... How did you build your experience choosing campgrounds in the Pyrenees?
Bivouac is absolutely legal in almost all areas. Setup before dark, pack up in the morning, usually above 2000m and you’ll have no issues. I’ve crossed the Pyrenees twice and never had any issues.
@@ChaseMountains So, it's ok as long as you don't setup a tent? Or is that ok too as long as you don't leave it up over the day? I have friends in Barcelona that go hiking too and they say they have to stay at refuges while in France a guy on a bike trip who was setting the tent only at night was getting bugged by the police.
Thanks!
Legend! Thanks for the super thanks!!