Note: Finding the correct grail in The Last Crusade game was not trial and error. It was based on an image you see earlier in the game. Many of the puzzles were also tied to information in the manual.
Actually there are 2 pieces to the puzzle. One picture just tells you if the cup is shiny or not. Then the other pic/description tells you what type it is.
Fun fact: a Lego Indiana Jones and Lego Tomb Raider crossover game was pitched by TT Games. LucasArts declined the pitch, due to them disliking Lara Croft.
Legal and IP issues aside, would’ve been neat to have a cameo or scene reveal Indy and Lord Richard Croft crossing paths at some point. Lara’s father was an archeologist, so it’s logical to think they would’ve done business together academically even if they never actually raided any tombs together. Rather see that than an Indiana Jones and Uncharted crossover.
Kills me every year that passes without an Indiana Jones or James Bond game. They're literally teeming with adventures and stories you could tell forever and I know I'd never tire of them.
Really hope the Bond game from IO turns out amazing. Same goes for Machine Games' Indiana Jones game. Indiana Jones could be a reason for me to finally get an Xbox.
It´s because multiplayer/online games sells more copies, dlc and skins then a single player game ever would. Not so hard to figure out why they are barerly making them anymore. They are not profitable enough sadly. Atleast if you compare them to games like Call of duty, Fortnite etc. These games with no soul or without a good story sells even more... The gaming industry turned greedy, it´s not about making a good game with a good story anymore. It´s about how much money they can make with the least effort possible. They went from gamedevelopers with passion to salesmen.
I actually grew up on that game same with halo and brute force lol. I completely forgot what the game was called and was searching forever one night. Feels like a fever dream whenever I see gameplay of it
@@eamonia 45:16 this is what I’m talking about when he addressed the new game clearly you didn’t read before you responded did you watch the video? How could you miss this?
Damn, I can't let the factual errors slip. You _can_ fill the bottle from the cave pool too (and I didn't even know that you can fill it at the fountain). Choosing the Grail is definitely _not_ trial-and-error, there's a painting in the castle that shows it, you should find it, and remember it in the endgame.
Infernal Machine was a huge part of my childhood and only deepened my love for the Indy world. I had so many hours clocked in trying to work out the many different puzzles
Same here exactly!!! I spent so many hours as a kid with my siblings trying to beat that game. It was so much fun. The ambience in some of the levels (like the snowy ones especially) still holds up so well today and instantly immerses me into the world. Really an underrated gem IMO.
Honestly, I think indiana jones not being as popular as star wars is a blessing in disguise. It cannot be milked to the ground... ...until AI reworks harrison ford's face completely
Agreed. I enjoyed Indy 4 but think that is where it should have ended. I dont have a lot of faith in Indy 5 with KK being involved. Its like Back to the Future which is a perfect trilogy. These companies need to come up with something original and heed the voice of Dr. Jones Sr. "Let it go". My fear is they will use Indy 5 as an excuse to have peebee Waller Bridge be the next Indy. I have no interest in a woman playing Indy. We have a female archaelogist her name is Lara Croft.
@@Linkman247 There was nothing wrong with Young Indiana Jones adventures the tv series but that was the 90s. You can't get something with the same sensibilities produced without the production coming off as too clishee, tired and stupid immediately running it into the ground. Too many people are too fixated on Indiana Jones being Harrison Ford when the character changes characteristics, morals and beliefs often enough that recasting him makes more sense than with more static characters like Han Solo or MCU figures. Indy actually works as an open-ended series of adventures since the third movie tied the trilogy together with themes of enlightenment being a continuing process, passing of the torch and familial bonds. Unlike the Skywalker name I can very easily see somebody unrelated becoming Indiana Jones successor by way of similar beliefs and themes. Mutt Williams could have worked with the campy themes of the movies turned down a bit and Mutt growing less arrogant but then they just let the whole thing wither and die without attempting to fix it. Unlike the garbage of modern day Hollywood screenwriters Crystal Skull could have been redeemed with more continuations leaning into the themes that the Dial of Destiny trailer hints at but I know full well already that no writer still working in the Hollywood system has enough spine or morals to understand the City of Gods script, let alone able to get it produced as a film.
@@dogeshark204 her involvement was largely making a cup of coffee. She wasn't spielberg or lucas and her handling of starwars is proof positive she doesn't have a clue.
Shredded nerd desperately trying to make normal content about reasonable things when he has already been forever marked as the ‘cobson/coalson/gemson explainer’
15:20 it’s not “trial and error” to find the correct grail, you have to use the description that you get previously in the game, which also changes each time. Games were different back then, they required attention and often writing things down. The game also came with a hard copy “Grail Diary” that you had to refer to to solve puzzles in the game. Totally different to today where if you get stuck you press a button and it tells you how to solve the next puzzle. Same with the slab puzzle inside the library, the solution is in the printed Grail Diary.
I've been thinking about this for a while now, video games are the perfect way to continue Indiana Jones as a franchise. The original Indiana Jones trilogy is absolutely some of my favorite movies ever made and I'd love to see some really good, modern Indiana Jones games.
There are a couple of mistakes, choosing the cup in Last crusade is not random, there's a picture of it in the castle that you have to find. Also, the true ending of Fate of Atlantis is not Indy converting into a god, that's just one of the ways to die. True ending is escaping Atlantis
The painting only narrows it down, you need an additional hint that requires the paper Grail Diary. With these two hints, you can one-shot the grail selection.
@@ChristopherKunz @DarkMoe thank you for this correction. As one of the leads on the game (design/coding) you saved me having to post the correction myself!
@@DavidFox1 Thank you for creating the most important game of my childhood. I still have the complete game, with all six disks and the copy protection glasses, on my shelf today. And I still remember where all the important books are in the library. Oh, and Thimbleweed Park was amazing. Can we have a sequel, pretty please?
@@ChristopherKunz Thanks! Glad you have such fond memories of it. And did you get to play the most recent game I worked on, Return to Monkey Island, which came out in September 2022? Very pleased with the way it came out and loved working on the project.
@@DavidFox1 Of course! Great game, and the story and leitmotif are very relatable to anyone who grew up in the SCUMM era. Surprisingly deep philosophical layers in there, too. I wasn’t aware you were involved in it too, until I looked it up ten minutes ago - or I would have congratulated you on it, too. To this day, my best gaming memories are of LucasArts games.
Glad someone else brought this up. I mean ford is definitely the definitive Indiana Jones, but the character has indeed been played by four other actors who did a fine job as the character.
After 20 years Emperors tomb is still the best indiana jones game in my opinion. But that also makes me sad because we really need a new indy game that does the characters justice.
Indy used to be the reason I thought fedoras were cool as a kid. Sinatra and old timey gangsters are why I find fedoras cool today. I remember, having bought a low quality trilby at the dollar store, and I started wearing it right along the time fedoras became widely recognized as cringe, and it being puzzling to me. Looking back, that might have been one of the factors leading down the path of following GamerGate. Everything stems from something, it seems.
Fate of Atlantis does have better audio on the Macintosh than the Steam version. Following Abdul is possible without the fez, but obviously it’s just much harder. Really glad you did this video and that you spent as much time covering IndyFate as you did.
There is no such thing as a "Steam version". It's just the Dos version emulated. The game runs on either Dosbox or scummvm. Steam uses a older version of Dosbox with default sound settings and music, often you gotta tweak stuff a little. W ScummVM is better for P&C games, Gog often use that.
Choosing the right Holy Grail in the Last Crusade was a matter of finding the secret door in the fortress where the depiction of the real cup was displayed hidden. It mattered what material it was and whether it was shiny or not.
In a cavern underneath Venice (which you can not access after "pulling the plug" with the whip) you also find 2 inscriptions. according to the inscriptions two of the descriptions from the grail diary (which came with the game) is the correct descition of the Grail. you have to combine this knwoledge with the knowledge wether or not the grail glows or not (the paintin in the castle) and then you know which Grail to take.
With regards to the Adventure game, I'd bet there was hints in the manual. It was common at the time to not make the game completely unplayable for pirates, but rather so painful that they learn from their piracy.
I love and appreciate your diligence playing it all...but a few things: -Last Crusade on SCUMM (not the DOS "Action" game) was meant to be played with a pack-in Grail Diary to cross reference clues (80s copy protection). -You can use the underground lake to fill the bottle instead of the fountain. -You can follow the merchant's servant without the fez, it's just REALLY hard since his white dot shifts colors. No blame to you, "graphic adventures" were seen as obtuse for a reason.
I don’t wanna sound like a pick me girl or a “i was born in the wrong generation” kid as they’re the scum of the Earth, but it’s an absolute shame that not many people my age know Indy as well as they know Han Solo
The point about the potential of an open world Indy was interesting. The new Zelda game was basically an open-world puzzle game, so I actually think it could work if done well. Which it probably wouldn't be.
My entry into Indiana Jones was The Last Crusade point and click on the Amiga. First ever exposure. So I was thrilled to death to find a relative watching a Last Crusade film as a kid. And then that there were two other movies. Ah, the good old days when film franchises were finite and could live on through new fans just discovering old media instead of having them milked to death
Mr shredded nerd has the nack to make me interested and invested in things i cared little to not at all about(aside from wii lego indy thats a certified core memory banger), partly because of the great technical analysis of the games, but the commentary is not just about the topic itself but is tied into larger narratives in the industry and greater culture. That's why I'm always looking forward to the next Nerd upload🔔
The version of Infernal Machine on GOG is superior to the Steam release, high resolutions, no crashes, the absolute best way to play my favorite Indiana Jones game!
Indiana Jones And His Desktop Adventure, that 1996 computer game, is such a nostalgia trip for me. I can remember it from when my family first got computers in my childhood house, and I LOVED that game! I just wish that I had a Windows 95 or 98 PC anymore to go back to play it (or that I could figure out how to get it to work on Windows 10).
I understand the wish of a an Indiana Jones game but there is a positive aspect of videogames getting inspired by movies like Indiana Jones but craving their own identity.
Indiana Jones and the Emperor's Tomb (I only heard about that some years back now) has some of the best melee combat I've ever seen in a game. It's not *intense* like most games try to be, it's just pure Indiana Jones-flick fun.
Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis... As a kid, this game blew my freaking mind (and the bad ending where you turn into a goat creature and fall into the lava genuinely scarred me). The sense of adventure and wonder that game provided me has not really been matched since. The pacing is absolutely perfect.
It's been forever since I've played it, but I remember loving The Emperor's Tomb... Sorry to hear that it doesn't hold up as well as I recall 😅 also, loved the apocrypha joke, great video Shredded
There's a great section in The Complete making of Indiana Jones by J.R. Rinzler regarding the long production of the 4th movie. Harrison Ford, Lucas and Spielberg all had to sign off on the script. Ford and Spielberg wanted to do a 4th movie but kept rejecting scripts with Aliens and George Lucas said flat out: "This movie is not getting made without Aliens in it". They had to meed in the middle with "interdeminsional Aliens".
Guys, I have the complete saga on dvd in a hard case with also the behind the scenes of the making of the first movie‼️ I'm soyjaking so hard right now that I could finally say it to someone who also loves Indiana Jones. Shredded Nerd you're turning into one of my favourite youtubers rn keep making bangers
5:25 True but also Indiana jones has met multiple Gods from different pantheons. He probably assumes that they are all not quite Gods, but entities. With universalism being the truth in Indiana jones, I don’t know exactly how he’s feel about morals. And I mean, to be fair, he has a kill count higher than a lot of serial killers, so fornication isn’t his only problem
There was a patch you could download that fixes all the bugs on The Infernal Machine, it was developed by a fan of the game and fixes the issues of crashing out when using certain weapons and the screen flickering when switching between different items.
I had fate of atlantis. It came in a 3 pack with a x wing game (meh) and day of the tentacle (incredible). I remember the gum scenario clear as day and i was probably only about 10 or 11 when i played it. I played it for weeks until i got frustrated by getting stuck so badly. It was way before you could look up solutions online. Eventually, about a year after i gave up, i found a book called "no bs video game cheats" when strolling through a small computer store. That book saved me. Granted i wsnt really challenged by that point, but i didnt care. I just wanted to see what happened and what i couldnt figure out. The gum on thw shoes was my problem with indy. As far as day of the tentacle i couldnt figure out that i needed to go find white out, paint a hole in a fence, lure a black cat through the hole and then use the painted cat as a skink to clear out a guard i was trying to get passed. Go figure. Guess i shouldve watched more looney tunes.
5:14 Actually Indy only sleeps with 2 women across the movies so far (Miriam and Elsa). He was going to sleep with Willie, but he missed the opportunity.
Staff of kings main version (next gen) got into development trouble to a degree, where the port of the game for wii (esentially a different version) made by a different studio got much closer to being finished. So the main version got cancelled and the wii port was all that was left.
I grew up during the Indy renaissance in the late 2000's and remembered playing a ton of the games you mentioned in that time frame, as well as Fate of Atlantis through the Staff of Kings. I'm not confident that Indy 5 is going to be any good, time travel is never a good sign for the health of a series and banking the whole movie around digital de-aging seems like an awful idea. Fingers crossed, but I'm not planning on seeing it.
I had the same situation with Jak 2. I've probably played it on average every year and a half since I was a kid. Excluding the seal piece in the water slums and end of the sewer escort missions, both of which I discovered solutions to (hover board for slums and properly timed Dark Jak for sewer), I've breezed through Jak 2 for over a decade. It wasn't until my best friend finally played the Jak Trilogy (I played concurrently) a few years ago that I discovered it's a really tough game for people! The biggest realization was how terrible the checkpoint placement or lack there of is in Jak 2 (looking at you Tomb of Mar). The best thing I got out of the playthroughs/discussions was a grander respect for Precursor Legacy as a game. Masterful use of console tech (no load screens and day-night cycle in the first year of the PS2!), tight controls, perfect pacing, aesthetic/music are on point, and a simple plot with environmental storytelling to flesh it out. It's the next evolutionary step and Banjo is like the 'final form' of 3D platformers. Jak 2 just nudges PL out in my heart though. For all the lack of great Indiana Jones games in the world, at least Naughty Dog gave us Uncharted to fill the void :)
Hello Great video that reminded me of my childhood. I just found your channel and I always find it such a pity that some creators like you don't get as much attention as they should. I also have a YT channel with around 50k subscribers. But my reach is getting smaller and smaller. I hope your videos explode. You deserve it!
Perhaps you didn't mention this because of spoilers for Infernal machine, but the short fat Soviet guy, Wasn't the real villain. The CIA agent Turner was the true villain.
Just subscribed. Great commentaries, voice, and humour! Didnt know there was an indie game in the works! While i wait for that ill try out one of these old farts😂
Indiana Jones has always been one of my favorite film franchises, and I recall playing some of the older games such as the Atlantis one - I also recall the Staff of Kings on the Wii. Shoot, good times! I've also noticed that a ton of Indy fans are super awesome to speak with, perhaps it's due to the smaller community - but everybody I've interacted with is just incredibly nice and welcoming haha. Compared to some other film fan groups that can get real crazy with opinions.
In Indy 3 by Lucasfilm Games, to choose the right cup that is the grail is not trial and error and all, if you have the manuals of the game, i.e. the printed Grail Diary, and you read and use it... It was part of their anti-piracy scheme...
Man, the memories I have of The Emperor's Tomb... Simpler times back then... All the while constantly getting stuck on parts, like the large clock; since I didn't know what the fuck roman numerals were as child.
Both Lego Indy Games with that Web 1 is my Brothers and my most Nostigic experiences in Gaming!!! 1 time we played, my aunt was coming over and her name in Marion!!! And we were playing Cario!!! I named my UA-cam Name and sometimes I added 1 number as a combo of some of my favorite Franchises: Marion - from Indiana Jones, Baggins - Middle Earth, and 42 - Hitchhikers Guide!!!
An open world game could work, the new game is supposed to take place in 1940s Italy so you could maybe have a small section of a city or country side that you need to unravel as you find clues
A few hours into the great circle - I think your wishlist has been partly met. Its more puzzle focused and is a decent game. Its not voice acted by Harrison Ford but actually took me some time to realise that. Its weirdly not 3rd person though, and the puzzles aren't too tough and its got a hint system. It tries not to slap the puzzle in your face - but if Gina is there she will almost always slap the solution into your face within 30 seconds. Thanks Gina
Very thorough retrospective! I really like what you've done here. Got a question though, where exactly did you find the concept of the Aetherium in The Infernal Machine being an alien supercomputer? I'm curious to see where this came from. There's an old urban legend that the game's north-american exclusive strategy guide comes with deeper details on everything, including Marduk. It would explain much about why Marduk would want to reach Earth if it was lethal to him. What's your source from this, and do you think the game alone is enough to understand this? (for me, it wasn't, but probably because it was the French version...) NB: The GOG version is more bug-free than the Steam version.
@@ShreddedNerd I think this is a fair perspective. Now that you mention it, that's all the final area really is. Still, keep up the great work. I also really liked your explanation of the idtech 1 / doom engine and frequently refer it as a easy to grasp explanation to others :).
An interesting thing about games in the 90's is that they often had separate but official strategy guides that you could buy in book form. Sometimes these were the only possible way to beat the puzzles in a game that were particularly difficult.
I always hoped that that when they were making "the next indy" (Crystal Skull) that it was going to be Fate of Atlantis. That had the best story. Id like to see a re-release or remaster of Emperors Tomb. That was such an akward time as games transitioned to 3D.
The Last Crusade Window puzzle related back to anti-piracy stuff. When you had the physical game it came with a Grail Diary that you would use at certain points in the game along with the in game grail diary.
The interesting thing about Indy's Desktop Adventures was its early usage of procedural generation for a commercial game. There was also the similar Yoda Stories
Great vid, but i do have one thing to say, that bugged me back then and bugged me again today... In the Last Crusade adventure game, one has only to look upon each and every grail at the end... one of them reads sth to the likes of "a humble cup, worthy of a carpenters something something something" while all the others describe the opulence upon they are made "a gold cup with yada yada gems" ... not just that, even a book i have bought back then offering walk-throughs for a plethora of adventure games (sierra, lucas arts, accolade etc) had the same approach to this riddle (that its just a matter of trial and error).
If it helps too.. They based that Timesplitters Aztec Ruins gauntlet on Indianna Jones. Tomb Raider was also inspired by Indie, His impact as a character can be felt from 'UHF' the movie to countless other franchises all who wanted SO badly to be that franchise..
My favorite Indiana Jones video game is definitely "Indiana Jones And The Phenomenal Tax Evasion." I've been playing that one regularly since '09 and it still handles like a dream!
Note: Finding the correct grail in The Last Crusade game was not trial and error. It was based on an image you see earlier in the game. Many of the puzzles were also tied to information in the manual.
Actually there are 2 pieces to the puzzle. One picture just tells you if the cup is shiny or not. Then the other pic/description tells you what type it is.
Fun fact: a Lego Indiana Jones and Lego Tomb Raider crossover game was pitched by TT Games. LucasArts declined the pitch, due to them disliking Lara Croft.
That's unfortunate.
That would've been fun.
Well we should get an Indiana Jones Tomb Raider crossover!
Based Lucas Arts, Lara Croft sucks
Legal and IP issues aside, would’ve been neat to have a cameo or scene reveal Indy and Lord Richard Croft crossing paths at some point. Lara’s father was an archeologist, so it’s logical to think they would’ve done business together academically even if they never actually raided any tombs together. Rather see that than an Indiana Jones and Uncharted crossover.
No they thought Tomb raider was a rip off of Indiana Jones
Kills me every year that passes without an Indiana Jones or James Bond game. They're literally teeming with adventures and stories you could tell forever and I know I'd never tire of them.
It's been so long since we've had a 007 piece of media that actually felt like classic Bond. Everything of Nothing is probably the last one
Really hope the Bond game from IO turns out amazing. Same goes for Machine Games' Indiana Jones game. Indiana Jones could be a reason for me to finally get an Xbox.
It´s because multiplayer/online games sells more copies, dlc and skins then a single player game ever would. Not so hard to figure out why they are barerly making them anymore. They are not profitable enough sadly. Atleast if you compare them to games like Call of duty, Fortnite etc. These games with no soul or without a good story sells even more... The gaming industry turned greedy, it´s not about making a good game with a good story anymore. It´s about how much money they can make with the least effort possible. They went from gamedevelopers with passion to salesmen.
Until now right?
Now we’re getting both an Indiana jones AAA game and a 007 AAA game
Indiana Jones and the Emperors Tomb is underrated. The fist-fighting mechanics are phenomenal.
And the story is great too
Punching was SO - MUCH - FUN!
I actually grew up on that game same with halo and brute force lol. I completely forgot what the game was called and was searching forever one night. Feels like a fever dream whenever I see gameplay of it
That game was way ahead of its time. Phenomenal.
@@amongersus2893 must be a nice feeling to finally find a piece of media that you missed
Im amazed how Harrison Ford is 80 years old and he decided to play in the 2023 movie, dude is simply built different
And like Carrie Fisher, he will die just to promote the last trash
@@Stonemention Adrenochrome is a mf
I see you all the time lol
Dude wtf, i never really thought about it and he's been 60 in my mind for the last 20 years. What a beast.
@@ThatGuy-ky2yf true 😭
Emperors tomb was amazing…. The missions are insane and ahead of it’s time. This game still holds up today. And better than most modern games.
Glad to see people talk about Emperor’s Tomb. One of my favorite 3D action games, it might not have aged that great but I still love it
I’m surprised more people when I was a kid didn’t know about Indiana Jones, I grew up playing the lego game.
It’s always been my favourite film other then incredibles
Lego games are always the best
To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand Indiana Jones in the Lost Kingdom
Who said the new Indy game was going to be 3rd person?!?
Clearly, you don't know what you're talking about. Did you even watch this guy's video?
@@eamonia 45:16 this is what I’m talking about when he addressed the new game clearly you didn’t read before you responded did you watch the video? How could you miss this?
Guess I'm not playing it then lol
Damn, I can't let the factual errors slip. You _can_ fill the bottle from the cave pool too (and I didn't even know that you can fill it at the fountain). Choosing the Grail is definitely _not_ trial-and-error, there's a painting in the castle that shows it, you should find it, and remember it in the endgame.
100%
Infernal Machine was a huge part of my childhood and only deepened my love for the Indy world. I had so many hours clocked in trying to work out the many different puzzles
Same here exactly!!! I spent so many hours as a kid with my siblings trying to beat that game. It was so much fun. The ambience in some of the levels (like the snowy ones especially) still holds up so well today and instantly immerses me into the world. Really an underrated gem IMO.
I needed over a year to complete it... that satisfaction was epic. I loved Infernal Machine.
Honestly, I think indiana jones not being as popular as star wars is a blessing in disguise. It cannot be milked to the ground...
...until AI reworks harrison ford's face completely
Agreed. I enjoyed Indy 4 but think that is where it should have ended. I dont have a lot of faith in Indy 5 with KK being involved.
Its like Back to the Future which is a perfect trilogy. These companies need to come up with something original and heed the voice of Dr. Jones Sr. "Let it go".
My fear is they will use Indy 5 as an excuse to have peebee Waller Bridge be the next Indy. I have no interest in a woman playing Indy. We have a female archaelogist her name is Lara Croft.
@@Linkman247 KK isn't that bad, she was involved in a lot of great movies, including the ones you mentioned.
@@Linkman247 I ain't reading all of that but yeah, she announced way goo many star wars projects
@@Linkman247 There was nothing wrong with Young Indiana Jones adventures the tv series but that was the 90s. You can't get something with the same sensibilities produced without the production coming off as too clishee, tired and stupid immediately running it into the ground. Too many people are too fixated on Indiana Jones being Harrison Ford when the character changes characteristics, morals and beliefs often enough that recasting him makes more sense than with more static characters like Han Solo or MCU figures.
Indy actually works as an open-ended series of adventures since the third movie tied the trilogy together with themes of enlightenment being a continuing process, passing of the torch and familial bonds. Unlike the Skywalker name I can very easily see somebody unrelated becoming Indiana Jones successor by way of similar beliefs and themes. Mutt Williams could have worked with the campy themes of the movies turned down a bit and Mutt growing less arrogant but then they just let the whole thing wither and die without attempting to fix it. Unlike the garbage of modern day Hollywood screenwriters Crystal Skull could have been redeemed with more continuations leaning into the themes that the Dial of Destiny trailer hints at but I know full well already that no writer still working in the Hollywood system has enough spine or morals to understand the City of Gods script, let alone able to get it produced as a film.
@@dogeshark204 her involvement was largely making a cup of coffee. She wasn't spielberg or lucas and her handling of starwars is proof positive she doesn't have a clue.
Shredded nerd desperately trying to make normal content about reasonable things when he has already been forever marked as the ‘cobson/coalson/gemson explainer’
15:20 it’s not “trial and error” to find the correct grail, you have to use the description that you get previously in the game, which also changes each time. Games were different back then, they required attention and often writing things down. The game also came with a hard copy “Grail Diary” that you had to refer to to solve puzzles in the game. Totally different to today where if you get stuck you press a button and it tells you how to solve the next puzzle. Same with the slab puzzle inside the library, the solution is in the printed Grail Diary.
Shreddednerd thank you for making videos it is a blessing truly
This video brought back some good memories. Fate of Atlantis was one of the crown jewels in Lucasarts golden age, and it had stiff competition
I've been thinking about this for a while now, video games are the perfect way to continue Indiana Jones as a franchise. The original Indiana Jones trilogy is absolutely some of my favorite movies ever made and I'd love to see some really good, modern Indiana Jones games.
*Anthology
@@theunknowncommenter725 What?
@@theunknowncommenter725huh?
There are a couple of mistakes, choosing the cup in Last crusade is not random, there's a picture of it in the castle that you have to find. Also, the true ending of Fate of Atlantis is not Indy converting into a god, that's just one of the ways to die. True ending is escaping Atlantis
The painting only narrows it down, you need an additional hint that requires the paper Grail Diary. With these two hints, you can one-shot the grail selection.
@@ChristopherKunz @DarkMoe thank you for this correction. As one of the leads on the game (design/coding) you saved me having to post the correction myself!
@@DavidFox1 Thank you for creating the most important game of my childhood. I still have the complete game, with all six disks and the copy protection glasses, on my shelf today. And I still remember where all the important books are in the library.
Oh, and Thimbleweed Park was amazing. Can we have a sequel, pretty please?
@@ChristopherKunz Thanks! Glad you have such fond memories of it. And did you get to play the most recent game I worked on, Return to Monkey Island, which came out in September 2022? Very pleased with the way it came out and loved working on the project.
@@DavidFox1 Of course! Great game, and the story and leitmotif are very relatable to anyone who grew up in the SCUMM era. Surprisingly deep philosophical layers in there, too.
I wasn’t aware you were involved in it too, until I looked it up ten minutes ago - or I would have congratulated you on it, too.
To this day, my best gaming memories are of LucasArts games.
"No one, when I'm gone, he's gone."
Dude, you're one of 5 actors who have played the character.
Glad someone else brought this up. I mean ford is definitely the definitive Indiana Jones, but the character has indeed been played by four other actors who did a fine job as the character.
After 20 years Emperors tomb is still the best indiana jones game in my opinion. But that also makes me sad because we really need a new indy game that does the characters justice.
Fate of Atlantis remains my favourite Indiana Jones story. And Temple of Doom is easily the best movie. I mean, it's not even a competition.
Raiders in my opinion is a better movie
Crusade is clearly the best movie. The other two are kiddy movies.
Indy used to be the reason I thought fedoras were cool as a kid.
Sinatra and old timey gangsters are why I find fedoras cool today.
I remember, having bought a low quality trilby at the dollar store, and I started wearing it right along the time fedoras became widely recognized as cringe, and it being puzzling to me.
Looking back, that might have been one of the factors leading down the path of following GamerGate.
Everything stems from something, it seems.
Based. Too bad Gamergate fell apart the way it did.
I'm loving how diverse your content is.
25:56 You should have added a picture of David Cage. It's insane how that article is still relevant today.
Fate of Atlantis does have better audio on the Macintosh than the Steam version. Following Abdul is possible without the fez, but obviously it’s just much harder. Really glad you did this video and that you spent as much time covering IndyFate as you did.
There is no such thing as a "Steam version". It's just the Dos version emulated.
The game runs on either Dosbox or scummvm. Steam uses a older version of Dosbox with default sound settings and music, often you gotta tweak stuff a little. W
ScummVM is better for P&C games, Gog often use that.
@@Erikcleric Steam version -- version you get when you buy the game on Steam. Not sure what you're complaining about, but thanks for the info.
Howard Warshaw cracking a whip around the office & scaring people is hilarious
Choosing the right Holy Grail in the Last Crusade was a matter of finding the secret door in the fortress where the depiction of the real cup was displayed hidden. It mattered what material it was and whether it was shiny or not.
In a cavern underneath Venice (which you can not access after "pulling the plug" with the whip) you also find 2 inscriptions. according to the inscriptions two of the descriptions from the grail diary (which came with the game) is the correct descition of the Grail. you have to combine this knwoledge with the knowledge wether or not the grail glows or not (the paintin in the castle) and then you know which Grail to take.
With regards to the Adventure game, I'd bet there was hints in the manual. It was common at the time to not make the game completely unplayable for pirates, but rather so painful that they learn from their piracy.
Upvoted for truth.
the indiana jones expanded universe is just real life
When I was younger I got lego indiana jones for wii, im 15 now and still love it
I love and appreciate your diligence playing it all...but a few things:
-Last Crusade on SCUMM (not the DOS "Action" game) was meant to be played with a pack-in Grail Diary to cross reference clues (80s copy protection).
-You can use the underground lake to fill the bottle instead of the fountain.
-You can follow the merchant's servant without the fez, it's just REALLY hard since his white dot shifts colors.
No blame to you, "graphic adventures" were seen as obtuse for a reason.
It's crazy knowing that some kids know characters as cool as Indy only by seeing him in Fortnite.
It's sad
I don’t wanna sound like a pick me girl or a “i was born in the wrong generation” kid as they’re the scum of the Earth, but it’s an absolute shame that not many people my age know Indy as well as they know Han Solo
@@YakkymaniaI know with the whole skibidi toilet thing makes me wanna die inside! 😂 gen A is doomed!!
The point about the potential of an open world Indy was interesting. The new Zelda game was basically an open-world puzzle game, so I actually think it could work if done well. Which it probably wouldn't be.
"Maybe it's the fedora that blocks him from God's influence." In that moment, Indy was euphoric.
You are so underrated, that was such a good joke!
My entry into Indiana Jones was The Last Crusade point and click on the Amiga. First ever exposure. So I was thrilled to death to find a relative watching a Last Crusade film as a kid. And then that there were two other movies. Ah, the good old days when film franchises were finite and could live on through new fans just discovering old media instead of having them milked to death
As an Indiana Jones superfan (yes, we exist), this is a great video. It’d be cool to see more videos like this in the future.
No shit you exist its one of the most popular and well known film franchises
@@jonahereaux4551 it doesn’t feel like it 😭
@@jonahereaux4551 nah honestly in the current year Indy feels...indie🤓
Mr shredded nerd has the nack to make me interested and invested in things i cared little to not at all about(aside from wii lego indy thats a certified core memory banger), partly because of the great technical analysis of the games, but the commentary is not just about the topic itself but is tied into larger narratives in the industry and greater culture. That's why I'm always looking forward to the next Nerd upload🔔
The version of Infernal Machine on GOG is superior to the Steam release, high resolutions, no crashes, the absolute best way to play my favorite Indiana Jones game!
Nice review of various games, I like that you always bring up other topics outside videogaming :)
I haven't played Indy 3 for a long time, but iirc, you can skip the castle scene by giving Nazi Indiana's kid journal of the Holy Grail.
17:15 I guess for the same reason the first movie showed him as a teacher, to show he's more than just some explorer. lol
Indiana Jones And His Desktop Adventure, that 1996 computer game, is such a nostalgia trip for me.
I can remember it from when my family first got computers in my childhood house, and I LOVED that game!
I just wish that I had a Windows 95 or 98 PC anymore to go back to play it (or that I could figure out how to get it to work on Windows 10).
I'm glad to have been around during the Uncharted Subway ad sweep. What a time.
Lucas was simply a businessman, not necessarily "greedy," and as for being "a hack," you've watched too much RLM over the years.
I understand the wish of a an Indiana Jones game but there is a positive aspect of videogames getting inspired by movies like Indiana Jones but craving their own identity.
Thank you for making this awesome video. I have been casually researching the history of Indiana Jones games and I learned a ton from this. 🤠
Indiana Jones and the Emperor's Tomb (I only heard about that some years back now) has some of the best melee combat I've ever seen in a game. It's not *intense* like most games try to be, it's just pure Indiana Jones-flick fun.
Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis... As a kid, this game blew my freaking mind (and the bad ending where you turn into a goat creature and fall into the lava genuinely scarred me).
The sense of adventure and wonder that game provided me has not really been matched since. The pacing is absolutely perfect.
It's been forever since I've played it, but I remember loving The Emperor's Tomb... Sorry to hear that it doesn't hold up as well as I recall 😅 also, loved the apocrypha joke, great video Shredded
There's a great section in The Complete making of Indiana Jones by J.R. Rinzler regarding the long production of the 4th movie. Harrison Ford, Lucas and Spielberg all had to sign off on the script. Ford and Spielberg wanted to do a 4th movie but kept rejecting scripts with Aliens and George Lucas said flat out: "This movie is not getting made without Aliens in it". They had to meed in the middle with "interdeminsional Aliens".
Lucas is the proof that luck is the only stat that actually matters
Picking the right grail isn't trial and error, there's a mural in the venice catacombs telling you which grail is the right one.
I only ever played Lego Indiana Jones on the Wii, I can't imagine using guns without wii mote aiming in that game.
Was way more fun that aiming with a joystick like the ps version
22:11 quite the contrary, Plato presented the history of Atlantis as a real oral tradition.
Guys, I have the complete saga on dvd in a hard case with also the behind the scenes of the making of the first movie‼️ I'm soyjaking so hard right now that I could finally say it to someone who also loves Indiana Jones. Shredded Nerd you're turning into one of my favourite youtubers rn keep making bangers
5:25
True but also Indiana jones has met multiple Gods from different pantheons. He probably assumes that they are all not quite Gods, but entities. With universalism being the truth in Indiana jones, I don’t know exactly how he’s feel about morals. And I mean, to be fair, he has a kill count higher than a lot of serial killers, so fornication isn’t his only problem
There was a patch you could download that fixes all the bugs on The Infernal Machine, it was developed by a fan of the game and fixes the issues of crashing out when using certain weapons and the screen flickering when switching between different items.
I had fate of atlantis. It came in a 3 pack with a x wing game (meh) and day of the tentacle (incredible). I remember the gum scenario clear as day and i was probably only about 10 or 11 when i played it. I played it for weeks until i got frustrated by getting stuck so badly. It was way before you could look up solutions online. Eventually, about a year after i gave up, i found a book called "no bs video game cheats" when strolling through a small computer store. That book saved me. Granted i wsnt really challenged by that point, but i didnt care. I just wanted to see what happened and what i couldnt figure out. The gum on thw shoes was my problem with indy. As far as day of the tentacle i couldnt figure out that i needed to go find white out, paint a hole in a fence, lure a black cat through the hole and then use the painted cat as a skink to clear out a guard i was trying to get passed. Go figure. Guess i shouldve watched more looney tunes.
5:14 Actually Indy only sleeps with 2 women across the movies so far (Miriam and Elsa). He was going to sleep with Willie, but he missed the opportunity.
10:26 we need a movie trilogy on that shit
Haven't seen your videos before but really enjoyed the humor and references in this one. Gonna check out more!
I'd take LEGO WW2 sets over Star Wars sets any day.
Staff of kings main version (next gen) got into development trouble to a degree, where the port of the game for wii (esentially a different version) made by a different studio got much closer to being finished. So the main version got cancelled and the wii port was all that was left.
wow this was an excellent video. keep up the great work man love your stuff!
I grew up during the Indy renaissance in the late 2000's and remembered playing a ton of the games you mentioned in that time frame, as well as Fate of Atlantis through the Staff of Kings. I'm not confident that Indy 5 is going to be any good, time travel is never a good sign for the health of a series and banking the whole movie around digital de-aging seems like an awful idea. Fingers crossed, but I'm not planning on seeing it.
I had the same situation with Jak 2. I've probably played it on average every year and a half since I was a kid. Excluding the seal piece in the water slums and end of the sewer escort missions, both of which I discovered solutions to (hover board for slums and properly timed Dark Jak for sewer), I've breezed through Jak 2 for over a decade. It wasn't until my best friend finally played the Jak Trilogy (I played concurrently) a few years ago that I discovered it's a really tough game for people! The biggest realization was how terrible the checkpoint placement or lack there of is in Jak 2 (looking at you Tomb of Mar). The best thing I got out of the playthroughs/discussions was a grander respect for Precursor Legacy as a game. Masterful use of console tech (no load screens and day-night cycle in the first year of the PS2!), tight controls, perfect pacing, aesthetic/music are on point, and a simple plot with environmental storytelling to flesh it out. It's the next evolutionary step and Banjo is like the 'final form' of 3D platformers. Jak 2 just nudges PL out in my heart though.
For all the lack of great Indiana Jones games in the world, at least Naughty Dog gave us Uncharted to fill the void :)
My dad made sure to show me Indiana Jones when I was 8.
Hello
Great video that reminded me of my childhood.
I just found your channel and I always find it such a pity that some creators like you don't get as much attention as they should.
I also have a YT channel with around 50k subscribers. But my reach is getting smaller and smaller. I hope your videos explode. You deserve it!
Perhaps you didn't mention this because of spoilers for Infernal machine, but the short fat Soviet guy,
Wasn't the real villain. The CIA agent Turner was the true villain.
Another excellent video idea mate! 😀😀
Just subscribed. Great commentaries, voice, and humour! Didnt know there was an indie game in the works! While i wait for that ill try out one of these old farts😂
Thank you for making this video,really well done and interesting to watch!
Got that same Lego Indiana Jones & Kung Fu Panda pack in when I bought my 360. Think I touched Kung Fu Panda once out of curiosity.
Indiana Jones has always been one of my favorite film franchises, and I recall playing some of the older games such as the Atlantis one - I also recall the Staff of Kings on the Wii. Shoot, good times! I've also noticed that a ton of Indy fans are super awesome to speak with, perhaps it's due to the smaller community - but everybody I've interacted with is just incredibly nice and welcoming haha. Compared to some other film fan groups that can get real crazy with opinions.
Lego Indiana Jones and Emperors Tomb are my two favorite indy games
Why are you still not willing to make a video on Goyslop
In Indy 3 by Lucasfilm Games, to choose the right cup that is the grail is not trial and error and all, if you have the manuals of the game, i.e. the printed Grail Diary, and you read and use it... It was part of their anti-piracy scheme...
I'm disappointed that we haven't got that much new Indy stuff to tie into the new film. We got so much stuff back in 2008
Man, the memories I have of The Emperor's Tomb... Simpler times back then... All the while constantly getting stuck on parts, like the large clock; since I didn't know what the fuck roman numerals were as child.
Same
used to think you were a little bit of a one trick pony doing so many halo videos great to see some evolution, this is wonderful
I remember trying to parachute into that cave really pissed me off.
Both Lego Indy Games with that Web 1 is my Brothers and my most Nostigic experiences in Gaming!!!
1 time we played, my aunt was coming over and her name in Marion!!! And we were playing Cario!!!
I named my UA-cam Name and sometimes I added 1 number as a combo of some of my favorite Franchises: Marion - from Indiana Jones, Baggins - Middle Earth, and 42 - Hitchhikers Guide!!!
Young indiana jones exists, its a historical fiction show.
An open world game could work, the new game is supposed to take place in 1940s Italy so you could maybe have a small section of a city or country side that you need to unravel as you find clues
Ha that’s my custom LEGO Colonel Vogel at 1:13
A few hours into the great circle - I think your wishlist has been partly met. Its more puzzle focused and is a decent game. Its not voice acted by Harrison Ford but actually took me some time to realise that. Its weirdly not 3rd person though, and the puzzles aren't too tough and its got a hint system. It tries not to slap the puzzle in your face - but if Gina is there she will almost always slap the solution into your face within 30 seconds. Thanks Gina
46:35 so you want Indiana jones games to be like the goty spine tingling bone chilling genre defining gem known as shelden ring????
Don't forget slow burning
fuck, this comment got me🤣
Very thorough retrospective! I really like what you've done here. Got a question though, where exactly did you find the concept of the Aetherium in The Infernal Machine being an alien supercomputer?
I'm curious to see where this came from. There's an old urban legend that the game's north-american exclusive strategy guide comes with deeper details on everything, including Marduk.
It would explain much about why Marduk would want to reach Earth if it was lethal to him. What's your source from this, and do you think the game alone is enough to understand this? (for me, it wasn't, but probably because it was the French version...)
NB: The GOG version is more bug-free than the Steam version.
I just made that judgment based on the visuals, sounds etc. of the final area
@@ShreddedNerd I think this is a fair perspective. Now that you mention it, that's all the final area really is. Still, keep up the great work. I also really liked your explanation of the idtech 1 / doom engine and frequently refer it as a easy to grasp explanation to others :).
An interesting thing about games in the 90's is that they often had separate but official strategy guides that you could buy in book form. Sometimes these were the only possible way to beat the puzzles in a game that were particularly difficult.
I always hoped that that when they were making "the next indy" (Crystal Skull) that it was going to be Fate of Atlantis. That had the best story. Id like to see a re-release or remaster of Emperors Tomb. That was such an akward time as games transitioned to 3D.
Hearing anything goes in the beginning, very cultured
The Last Crusade Window puzzle related back to anti-piracy stuff. When you had the physical game it came with a Grail Diary that you would use at certain points in the game along with the in game grail diary.
Great stuff, man. You've really got something here.
The interesting thing about Indy's Desktop Adventures was its early usage of procedural generation for a commercial game. There was also the similar Yoda Stories
Great vid, but i do have one thing to say, that bugged me back then and bugged me again today... In the Last Crusade adventure game, one has only to look upon each and every grail at the end... one of them reads sth to the likes of "a humble cup, worthy of a carpenters something something something" while all the others describe the opulence upon they are made "a gold cup with yada yada gems" ... not just that, even a book i have bought back then offering walk-throughs for a plethora of adventure games (sierra, lucas arts, accolade etc) had the same approach to this riddle (that its just a matter of trial and error).
If it helps too.. They based that Timesplitters Aztec Ruins gauntlet on Indianna Jones. Tomb Raider was also inspired by Indie, His impact as a character can be felt from 'UHF' the movie to countless other franchises all who wanted SO badly to be that franchise..
Would you do a history of the cover-based shooter, and your opinions?
Great video! I am very excited for the new game!
Your comment about better voice actor for Infernal Machine was kind of funny- it’s the same voice actor in IM and Fate of Atlantis- Doug Lee.
Funny. Guess he just had a better performance that year.
My favorite Indiana Jones video game is definitely "Indiana Jones And The Phenomenal Tax Evasion." I've been playing that one regularly since '09 and it still handles like a dream!
If by top men, you mean the guy who played Porkins! We might be in trouble ;)