I never realized how long it took and how much effort (and misunderstandings) went into translating the texts on the Rosetta Stone. Learn something new every day, as my mom says!
The middle text was only deciphered recently, it's not Egyptian Demotic as stated in this video but in fact it's Slavic Macedonian Sanskrit text, the official language of Alexander the Great. There's a paper available online called Tracing The Script And The Language Of The Ancient Macedonians PDF. If you want to know more about the Rosetta Stone... It's a fascinating read, the ancient Macedonians were already using vowels back then and the majority of the spoken words are still in use today!
@@PeterMilanovski Alexander the Great wasn’t a Slav, and that script is Demotic. Slavs didn’t even come into the Balkans for almost a thousand years after Alexander’s death.
@@jcspider7259 thanks! Though the translation is from 1905, it is based on what they were able to read from the greek text which at that point in time wasn't an advanced from of littreture. The middle text on the other hand is not Egyptian Demotic as was believed, it's ancient Slavic Macedonian Sanskrit text! The Macedonian Sanskrit text contains vowels and consonants which is why people had difficulty trying to decipher it. But it has recently been deciphered and the scientific paper called Tracing The Script And The Language Of The Ancient Macedonians PDF is available for free download. Not only can we now read the ancient Egyptian text but we can now know what it sounded like! I think that it's amazing that the ancient Slavic Macedonian Sanskrit predates both English and Latin in which to my knowledge, a lot of Latin is based on ancient Slavic Macedonian words! For example, the word greek comes from the Macedonian word Grejci pronounced Greytsi meaning those who came, the word was Latinised into Greceous or Greco which is where the word greek in English came from! This particular paper is not widely known and I'm sure that Greece is keeping quiet about it because it demonstrates that the Macedonians were never greek and that the greeks didn't play a major role as they would have you believe. I personally haven't had a close look at the greek text to see if it is in fact greek! To anyone who sees it, it appears to be greek but I have read about a manuscript that was found in a greek church in Alexandria that was believed to be ancient greek, a few scholars from, I think that they were from Denmark, were working on it and were having difficulty reading it, they sent some pictures of the text to a Macedonian linguist that they had worked together on a previous project and he replied with a translation. As it turned out, the manuscript was written in Slavic Macedonian with greek letters. So who knows what is going to come out of all this, we might end up with some clarification on the ancient Egyptian text. If you are interested in the Rosetta Stone text's, Google the paper word for word as stated above, it's a fascinating read, there's a lot that is not known about ancient Slavic Macedonian history, it's actually as old as Egyptian history but it tends to be overlooked as Greece has convinced us that it's greek and all that we know about it is that Alexander the Great was Macedonian and Macedonians no longer exist! And yet the same words as they were actually spoken back in 196Bc by Ptolemy and Kleopatra and Alexander the Great are still in use today by the modern day Macedonians.. There's a lot to read if you are interested in ancient Macedonian history, I found a website that is hosting a lot of paperwork from a guy called Basil Chulev, everything from the Macedonian culture to their religious beliefs (which I'm not religious but found an understanding for why everything is the way it is today)... Simply Google Basil Chulev and something should show up, the name of the site started with the letter A but I can't remember what it was called... But well worth it if ancient history is of interest to you...
@@ryanwalters5290 that's exactly what Greece would have you believe, if you know anything about greek history then you should know that it has been changed on 3 separate occasions to suit whatever their needs were at that point in time. The scientific paper called Tracing The Script And The Language Of The Ancient Macedonians PDF which is available for free download shows that the middle text on the Rosetta Stone is in fact ancient Slavic Macedonian Sanskrit text! Not only is it Slavic Macedonian but the majority of the words used on the Rosetta Stone are still in use today by the modern day Slavic Macedonians! Yes! In 196Bc there were Slavic Macedonians! The same Sanskrit Slavic Macedonian text on the Rosetta Stone has also been found in Kokino Macedonia carved into stone and dated by the French to around 6000Bc! There's no archeological evidence of greek existence before 1500Bc! None whatsoever! No one ever say's Alexander the Great of Greece! It's a real no brainer, it's only logical sense that the middle text is ancient Slavic Macedonian! And it's really not that hard to work it out if it's true or not, download the scientific paper called Tracing The Script And The Language Of The Ancient Macedonians PDF, and you can see that it is in fact ancient Slavic Macedonian, the Sanskrit alphabet is translated into modern Slavic Macedonian and then into English.. The ancient Slavic Macedonians were a far more advanced civilization than people realise, they would have to be, there would be no way to conquer the known world if all they were was small time petty thieves, this effort required an advanced nation behind it.. it's not much different to how things work today! They ancient Slavic Macedonians worked it out that it's far better to occupy and rule a nation of people than to go in and destroy it and take whatever wealth that they can find, instead it's better to keep the nation going while you continually export the wealth accumulated back to Macedonia, that's why the greeks are not assimilated, nor was any other nation of people! This tactic is still being used today! Take Greece today for example, their economy almost completely collapsed but the Germans stepped in and offered financial support! This support doesn't come for free, Greece is never going to get out of debt! The Germans have them exactly where they want them, it's money for nothing! They are screwed but they aren't the only ones who are in that position, we know that America was doing the same thing to the Arab's.. it's an old Macedonian tactic, that's why Alexander the Great is studied so much! There's a lot more there than most people realise. But the Greeks want Macedonian history as their own and don't want anyone to work it out so they simply claim that ancient Macedonians no longer exist but they can't tell you what actually happened to them! Whether you choose to accept that the ancient Macedonian people were Slavic and that the modern day Macedonians are the same people or you don't, if knowing history as it happened and as it was is important to you, then it's up to you to find out what the truth is! There's no mention anywhere about a migration of Slavic people who moved from somewhere in the north to the south! There are no documents! The Israelites migration got a mention! Where is all this talk about migrating slav's actually coming from anyway? Probably Greece..
@John Murdoch Brits fighting Brits, while we had a real war going in Europe, vote was taken in parliament on if we should send more troops and the nays had it, because trade was more important, America didn't even tell the French who'd bankrupt themselves.
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You missed an incredibly important point. Champollion was able to translate the text only through the help of Coptic priests from the coptic Orthodox Church in Egypt. The church still uses ancient Egyptian language in liturgy through its modern form, the Coptic script. Champollion merely made the connection that the ancient Egyptian language never truly died, but still lived through the Coptic priests and script.
@@sarcophegus coptic is currently only used as a liturgical language, it had a couple of dialects which were not entirely mutually intelligible and it is definitely not mutually intelligible with arabic. However Egyptians have told me that it left a mark on Egyptian Arabic.
@@j.obrien4990 that’s not accurate, the same exact spoken language hasn’t changed, it’s only the written part of it that has changed. There is no such thing as as hyroglyphic language, it’s a made up name or whatever other name like Coptic . The dialect used in Egypt even though it’s called Arabic nowadays is very different from how the rest of Arab countries speak.
I've been asking you to do this and the Dead Sea scrolls for over a year now and you knock them out both in the same week. It was like you did this just for me!!! Thanks.
So my folks have a replica Rosetta Stone in their house, and as a small child (maybe 6?) I heard about it on tv and ran to them and shouted about how their wall stone was famous and worth lots of money!! 🤣🤣🤣 Thankfully they took the time to explain it wasn’t the original, and that’s why they had it up there! But it must have taken every bit of focus not to just fall about laughing at me, instead of a couple of giggles!
Nah, maybe you don't have kids, maybe you do, but I guarantee they thought your excitement and earnestness was the cutest thing they ever saw, and they probably treasure that memory whether they say so or not. Cheers!
I made an exact replica"smaller", for a project and I got a D. You know why? Because it was to good. Yep. They thought my parents did it all. I took dozens of pictures of a replica at the library, lined them up, and made every, single piece of text perfectly. I'll never forgive them. Yes, I cried.
I'm really sorry to hear that but it not the first time that certain professors turns to out to simply be incapable to see beyond their nose narrow minded they really are...
@@michaelpipkin9942 if you want to know what is actually written in the middle text, it's not Egyptian Demotic as stated in this video, it's actually the language of Alexander the Great, ancient Slavic Macedonian Sanskrit text, there's a free download called Tracing The Script And The Language Of The Ancient Macedonians PDF... The Macedonians were already using vowels back then in 190Bc! That's pretty advanced for their time, no one else was using vowels back then!
@GE B There are likely many more out there, though given the fate of the first one found, they could be anywhere (or bits of them at least). It is in the text itself that decrees that a copy of the stone was to be set up in all Level 1, 2 and 3 temples (no one seems sure about what that means). The British Museum copy is only a small part of the original. Others were around 2 meters in height.
Great description of the Stone. I knew there a mix within the languages, but your breakdown immediately made me think, oh, like emoji mixed with words and footnotes on how to say things. Got it!
There are a mix of languages although Simon has actually got it wrong! The top text is Egyptian, the bottom is greek but the middle text is ancient Slavic Macedonian Sanskrit text... It's not Egyptian Demotic as stated in the video.. Simon didn't see the paper called Tracing The Script And The Language Of The Ancient Macedonians PDF... It's been called Egyptian Demotic even though no one could read it but it has since been deciphered...
I am a Locksmith obviously, the story was in my trade magazines in the 80s and 90s. I may not remember all the details perfectly, but here we go. 1840s young Yale the son of the founder , He and his family went to London to look into setting up a factory to make locks and England. He was in London I am looking at different sites, and was hopping from haberdashery to haberdashery, he entered this one haberdashery and it was full of Egyptian artifacts, you came upon a table with a mechanical device on it that he recognized to be a lock. This lock was different than anything He had ever seen before, it was very old and dilapidated to the point of it being a cutaway of it's self. He drew pictures of it and 10 years later he patented it, what he discovered was the pen Tumbler Locking system we use today, I believe it's 1854 Patented . So he back engineered 4000 year old lock! That's some fun isn't it. But The story about all these Egyptian artifacts found their way to England is even more fun. In the 1840s and 50s England expanding the Kingdom found themselves in Egypt with thousands of people there, there's nothing to eat. These 250 ships that they used made multiple trips every year so that there was a ship arriving almost daily unloading food and supplies to keep these people live, they actually leased ships of the type they needed from other countries. Well there was nothing coming out of Egypt all they have is sand no need to import that. When the ships left port in England they were balanced perfectly to make it around Cape Horn where the water is always bad, after they made it to Egypt and offloaded they needed ballast rocks to balance the ships to get back home, well they clean the beaches off of all available stone for miles and miles and we're looking around for ballast when I thought it would be a good idea to use the statues and stuff they found buried in the sand for Ballast so they could make it home safely. Once they got home they put the stuff out on the dock and had an auction, to help pay for the trips . People from all over England came down to the docks and bought Egyptian artifacts to take home. They asked tribal people they encountered and they had no connection to the Egyptian artifacts . And told them it was OK to take whatever they needed they didn't care. At the time there was no government to deal with. With The state that The Middle East is in these days it seems that these artifacts are safer in England. But nevertheless these artifacts saved a lot of British lives therefore it is part of British history, it was also a logical Business decision. It help cover the cost of these trips .
This tale has fascinated me since I was around 10 years old and someone gave me a book about "ancient worlds." Nice to see it so accessible here in an accurate well-written piece narrated by Simon.
You can find out more about the Rosetta Stone by googling Tracing The Script And The Language Of The Ancient Macedonians PDF, the middle text isn't Egyptian Demotic as stated in the video, it's ancient Slavic Macedonian Sanskrit. The ancient Macedonians were using vowels back then, I don't know of another language that was at that point in time..
As an Egyptian, It's impossible for me to read the Coptic one. I think Egyptian Christians may understand a bit of it since they still use Coptic in Egyptian Churches.
The greek text got it started but we are going to find out more now that the middle text was found to be ancient Slavic Macedonian Sanskrit and not as mentioned in the video as Egyptian Demotic... The ancient Macedonians had already been using vowels back then and now we know how the words were actually pronounced... It's a fascinating read that few people know about...
That's why it and many other treasures in the BM will never go back. One of the few places in the world its protection can be guaranteed. I wouldn't even trust the US with it. It's a free musuem, they close too early for me but it's remarkably accessible, to everybody - the only problem is the Egypt section tends to get way too busy.
It's actually even more useful since the middle text has been recently deciphered and found to be ancient Slavic Macedonian Sanskrit text and not Egyptian Demotic as stated in the video. The middle text was believed to be Egyptian Demotic because it seemed logical since no one could read it but that has since changed. The papers on the latest can be found by searching for Tracing The Script And The Language Of The Ancient Macedonians PDF... Should you want to know more about it...
@@PeterMilanovski You are the only one who really knows whats up. Shouldn't there be more Ancient Macedonian texts in the lands of the ancient slavic Macedonia? Ive heard they have found so far 20.000+ epigraphs in the ancient slavic Macedonian region but all of them are in ancient greek and some in latin. They really are hiding something from us...
Litterally ;) Okay, putting the joke aside, the most tell-tale sources for arhaeologists are the waste dump areas. Like the Great Pit near Deir el-Medina (Luxor West Bank). Most facts about politics, economy and daily life we know about Set Maat (the tomb builders' village at Deir el-Medina) are known from the thrown away scripts on stone slabs or pot shards (ostracha). It is such a large source that paleoeconomy is largely based on them. The other sources are temple libraries-most of the Abu-Sir library contains reports and accounts about the overseen royal properties and almost nothing religious is there.
I love how the British museum has rewritten history to cover their own mistake. The Rosetta stone was actually thought to be Basalt because it was covered in black ink when it was first discovered in order to make copies of the surface before it ever left Egypt. In fact, before it was translated, many people claimed that it must be very important for the Egyptians to take the time to carve the script into basalt, which is prone to chipping. The only reason we now know it is granite is because it was cleaned with modern chemicals which removed some of the ink, much to everyone's surprise. It was a really embarrassing flub for the museum at the time and made big headlines. Now they are trying to pull the "We knew it was granite the whole time!" BS rather than admit they displayed it with inaccurate information for over 100 years.
Technically, the stone has very limited historic value in Egyptian history, but it does have more value to modern history. Egypt does have many similar more complete and more ancient stones but non is of similar (modern) significance. Usually, the Egyptian authorities do discriminate when giving licenses to foreign missions based on their countries history of denying reparations or allowing the sale of Egyptian antiques.
@ROB H8U Not true. These objects stayed in their homeland intact and safe for thousands of years. They would have been eventually discovered and stayed in their home country. The argument you are presenting is completely false, especially when you are talking about a country like Egypt; everyone knew (even before the discovery of hieroglyphics) that this land is extremely rich in history, this knowledge was never forgotten (thanks to the bible and ofc the pyramids). The pyramids are like beacons saying come and dig here!
I wonder if they'll ever be a Rosetta Stone type video found centuries from now that decode all the long dead incomprehensible memes from Business Blaze. 🤔🤔
I’m glad you did a video on this and I love all your other videos and I really didn’t know this much about the Rosetta Stone like I knew what it was but not this much thank you once again
If you want to know more, Google Tracing The Script And The Language Of The Ancient Macedonians PDF, it's actually about the decipher of the middle text which was believed to be Egyptian Demotic but no one could read it, well it's no wonder why no one could read it, it wasn't Egyptian LoL. It's actually ancient Slavic Macedonian Sanskrit text, the official language of Alexander the Great and Ptolemy and Kleopatra... It's a fascinating read that not to many people know about...
2500 years from now a random person breaks breaks what once looked like a wall... They find a Canadian flyer and finally we figure out how to read french again. There is finally a reason everything is said twice here
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In my 20s I remember looking at the Rosetta Stone and being amazed by it. I could hardly make out individual symbols and the Greek just looked like jibberish. I had very little understanding of Ancient Greek back then, but thought I could at least pick out some words that I knew. No such luck. I kept thinking that this held the key to translation. I think it did spark a love of ancient languages in me. I have been studying languages from the British Isles ever since.
Then you should have a look at a document that is right up your alley, it's called Tracing The Script And The Language Of The Ancient Macedonians PDF, which by the way is what the middle text on the Rosetta Stone is, it's not Egyptian Demotic as stated in the video, no one could read it until recently! The museum of London still hasn't updated it's website regarding this... Anyway, the Macedonians were already using vowels back in 190Bc, I don't think that any other languages used vowels back then, could it be possible that the English language got it's vowels from the Macedonians? Fascinating stuff!
@@historybuff7491 history is important, and when a video like this is made and an important key piece of information is left out, people are pointed in the wrong direction...
I'm happy to see the stone has finally been put under glass, we need to protect our antiquities. I am ashamed to say that , gosh it has to be 40 years ago, I was so in awe, and not thinking I touched the stone while at the British Museum. The guard was on me immediately, rightly so. I still remember how guilty I felt, no matter that I so love the history, I forgot about anything except making sure it was really in front of me. Anyway, it was wonderful to see the stone and , as i said, I am glad to see we've become more aware of protecting these treasures.
This is definitely on my bucket list of "Things to See". I've had a lifelong fascination with the ancient Mediterranean cultures. Thanks to my time in the USN, I got to see much of that part of the world. Hopefully this global poo storm blows over soon and I can go see all the things the Brits commandeered, sorry "collected for posterity's sake".
The British museum is worth the trip alone in my opinion. But you can also see a Templar church and the tower and....... Also it's not that far to Scotland. The whole island is like the size of my state.
@@dragonmartijn I don't speak Arabic, but I found Petra awe inspiring. I have a loose grasp of Latin, but I found the Coloseum to be a wonderful structure. I don't speak any ancient South American language, but I was left speechless by Machu Pichu. One doesn't need to speak the languages of our predecessors in order to appreciate their achievements.
Everybody goes on about how amazing the stone looks. But really, its a grey stone with writing on it. It is amazing for what it is. As for how it looks? Its a grey rock with scratches on it to the eye.
I would like to point out during the arab spring the cairo museum was looted and many priceless objects lost. Imagine if we had returned this. It would of been gone quicker than a pack of marlborough on the suez cannal
It wasnt a riot. it was a revolution. Also people know how much stuff is worth. Just because they are in egypt dosent mean they dont have pick ups and a forklifts.
He says there was 3 languages on the stone but I was taught that it was only 2 (Egyptian & Greek) but was written in the 3 different scripts. 2 of the them being Egyptian scripture, similar to the English print and cursive writing, and the other, of course, Greek scripture.
To be fair, a decent portion of it was genuinely traded. Start giving people who have never tasted sugar, well, bagfulls of sugar, and they are genuinely willing to trade some of their stuff.
Yeah how dare they preserve the world's history? We should just let the crazy religious groups have everything back and let them destroy our species' history for Allah. /s
There's more that didn't make it in this video, you will need to Google Tracing The Script And The Language Of The Ancient Macedonians PDF, the middle text isn't Egyptian Demotic as stated but in fact it's Slavic Macedonian Sanskrit text.. the official language of Alexander the Great! It's a fascinating read, it's the latest finding from the Rosetta Stone which not to many people are aware of...
Don't know how you do it, Simon, but you consistently walk the line between "slightly irritating" and "consistently entertaining." Either way, I'm a fan.
I once was telling a coworker how I stepped into the British Museum and lo and behold there was the Rosetta Stone! And she looked utterly baffled and said, “You mean … that’s a … thing? I thought that was just that language software.” Millennials ….
@@toxqui11 So you support returning it to Ptolemaic Greeks who created it in 196 BC? I mean, obviously you don't support giving it to the people who currently live in Egypt, after all, they invaded and conquered those lands way later, around 646 AD.
I had a t shirt with a rendition of the Rosetta stone on it that I found at a thrift store, was disappointed that not one person ever commented or asked me about it :/
As usual, an excellent video. I would love to hear the story of Egypt's downfall. How it went from the great pharaohs and pyramids to what it is today. Any chance that could be a topic?
Thank God there were Greek on that stone and we can read what it says! That also shows what impact had the Greek colonies around the Mediterranean Sea. The difference between the ancient Greek and other ancient languages is thy the Greek language is still used! Ancient Egyptian, Latin and Sanskrit… they are all ‘’dead languages’’ Greek is probably the longest consistently spoken language, from ancient times till today!
It's not your history or artifacts they are ours... imagine us taking the shity stones u have in the UK and claiming they r safer in Egypt during the world war 2...
@@abd28elshamekh I'm not British. (Also you don't seem to know much about WWII if you thought Egypt was safe during it.) Also there's a very good chance that you don't have a whole lot of claim to that history there. It is Ptolemaic, so actually it's Greek's history if we want to go by ethnicity. And if we go by culture modern Egyptians have as much in common with ancient Egyptians as the British do. The only thing that you can claim is that you live on the same land.
I dunno. I feel like the modern inhabitants of Egypt only started to care about the land's ancient history once it became really popular with foreigners.
Bingo! When Islam swept through the middle east so much history was destroyed, and the radicals these days take pleasure in destroying anything that isn't islamic. The Taliban destroys what it finds, as did ISIS, what a shame that religious nut jobs destroy their people's history.
@@robertharper3754 Interesting viewpoint. In truth, Caesar burned the Royal Library in Alexandria during his war with Pompey (though it might have been an unintended consequence of setting the harbor on fire). Later on in 391, christisns under Theophilus destroyed the remaining library in Alexandria in their zeal to remove "paganist" source material. It seems the looting and destruction wrought during the wars begun by European crusaders in the 11th and 12th century was a greater culprit in the destruction of ancient knowledge than anything that occurred during the islamic expansion in the 7th Century. In fairness, libraries in the Middle East were also sold off by their muslim owners to pay for the defense they needed to mount against said crusaders. My source material is the Encyclopedia Britannica.
@@joejankoski8471 Crusade only occurred during few centuries and were not even that relevant for the Muslims (not a lot of writing speaking about crusades, at least far less than Europeans). Their "golden age", was only achieving to be a bit more developed than Europeans during their dark age. While holding the richest and most civilized region of the world since the beginning of civilization, Middle East and Egypt. Regions they managed to turn into shithole in few centuries. If you really want to blame on everything on Europeans, go ahead. But don't be surprised that Europeans are tired of that go far right.
@@joejankoski8471 hey rube, Islam tried to take over Europe. you ponce in here and tell us the Crusaders started a war? Crusaders finished the war Islam started. you suck. get lost.
How do they keep it from disintegrating? I know that the moisture in London is far superior to the Egyptian humidity, and they have had issues in the past because of this factor. Just curious.
I think granite lasts a very long time, it had a layer covering it in the past until they removed it. Now it’s sat in glass, the room is quite dark and I think temperature controlled or at least there aren’t extreme temperatures.
I cannot stress this enough... they are "hieroglyphs" that's what they are called. "Hieroglyphic" on the other hand, is an adjective. So it is a "hieroglyhic text" but NOT written in "hieroglyphics" Nevertheless its a great video with great research. Its amazing that nearly 200 years since its discovery, I'm able to read basic hieroglyphs
I remember reading that it was a decree of tax exemption for the temple associated with the specific stone...so of course they wanted it as large as possible, even back then...death and taxes were something everyone wanted to avoid.
There's more information regarding the Rosetta Stone by googling Tracing The Script And The Language Of The Ancient Macedonians PDF, the middle text isn't Egyptian Demotic as stated in the video, Simon has actually got something wrong!
It was only the Europeans that ever gave a toss about ancient Egypt. And set about trying to understand it. Without these Europeans there would not be any Egyptology at all.
False, attempts were made by Arabic scholars a thousand year before, and they were pretty decent. You have to know this: rediscovering something at a certain time, doesn’t mean that someone else wouldn’t have discovered it. After the Rosetta stone were found, so many multilingual tablets were found. Modern computers would have deciphered the text in 20 mins not 20 years like in the 19th century. For every good thing these Europeans contributed to Egyptology, there are 10 bad things they did.400 years from now, it wouldn’t matter if the language was rediscovered in the 19th or 21st century, what would matter is that so many priceless artefacts left their home country because if 19th century colonialism.
The vast majority of items in British museums were legally acquired according to the rules and cultural norms of the time. If items were not legally acquired, then they should be returned, if feasible to do so. We need to stop applying modern cultural standards to centuries ago.
@@Locutus according to who? What international accord gave them the right to... you know what, it doesn’t matter. We live in the modern world. So if we have the knowledge and the means to correct an error, like theft, we should. The bigger problem is obviously the volume of stolen artifacts that is there.
@@Locutus are the artifacts made by British people, if not, give them back... Simple as that. Imagine an Egyptian kid having to work hard to get a ticket to go and see an artifact that his/her ancestors made... Not forgetting he has to pay the British government for the privilege! It is just absurd in my opinion
@@tafadzwandingindi1370 Public museums are free in the UK. They have been for 20 years. You can go to the British Museum and see all of its artefacts for free. You can also go to the National Art Gallery and see art from Picasso, Da Vinci, Monet, and other great artists of the world for free. All paid for by the British public.
Given Islam's penchant for destroying pre-islamic artifacts it's probably best it remains in England. At least until the English destroy themselves through their own racism against themselves.
What happened to the Egyptian people? They destroyed and forgot so much of their own ancient culture. Most of what is known, found and preserved was done by westerners..
They were destroyed for the practices they were involved in, namely rituals and summonings. Also the Egyptian glyphs are yet to be fully translated to this day, so all these experts saying they deciphered the entire language are lying. From what is known, the land of Kemet had a great kingdom going all the way to the beginning of man but suffered a cataclysmic event and afterwards kept suffering from them till they were reduced to this lower state. The westerners clearly have great respect and knowledge of the practices they were involved in, who knows exactly what they are hiding but even the founding fathers were in deep with Egyptian symbology.
@opener of the world don't know what you are saying but the Egyptians were dark, the current inhabitants of Egypt are not how they used to look at all. The Egyptians were tall and as dark as the soil, they are actually the Neolithic tribes and other tribes around the area but they are not Arabs, Arabs are just a mix of various shemitic and 3domite tribes.
@opener of the world I already told you the current inhabitants of Egypt are not the Egyptians of the past, the Egyptians were renowned for their height and dark complexion, you are delusional.
yes I really did enjoy this content, except for the political sneer that the UK does not have a good reason to return the stone to Egypt. As you mentioned yourself, it is only valuable because Western people decided not to smash it up and then used considerable energy to study it. It is therefore a Western European artifact with no other intrinsic value, that does not belong in an Egyptian museum. Especially considering the way Egypt treats their artifacts in their care.
In regards to whom rightfully owns the stone I'll defer to Attorney Lionel Hutz... "IT'S A THORNY LEGAL ISSUE, ALL RIGHT. I'LL NEED TO REFER TO THE CASE OF FINDERS VS. KEEPERS."
Going against form, the French surrendered. I genuinely laughed out loud at that.
Moi aussi :)
No surrender in Champollion though.
Ouch
The French History BA snob in me takes offense. LOL
Dumb joke.
Honestly props to them for writing the same thing in 3 different languages, they would've had no idea how important this would be in the future
What difference did it actually make? I mean what do we understand better now?
@@morten1 did you watch the video homie? It’s the only reason we understand hieroglyphics. Like the one reason.
Because if you know one language and if you then have a literal translation in another, you now have unlocked that language.
The very first line of text they deciphered was 'we have been trying to reach you about your car's warranty' or something like that
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It probably said _chariot._
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The British museum: “it’s free real estate” 😂
"Let us borrow the stone, we will return in later, pinky promise."
"when is later?"
"Later"
Oh excuse me, i said borrow?
I meant steal!
(as britain does to everybody)
We deciphered it so it’s ours now :)
@@FatalErrorHxCthey were using it as a piece to fill a hole in a wall, they don’t deserve it.
I never realized how long it took and how much effort (and misunderstandings) went into translating the texts on the Rosetta Stone. Learn something new every day, as my mom says!
The middle text was only deciphered recently, it's not Egyptian Demotic as stated in this video but in fact it's Slavic Macedonian Sanskrit text, the official language of Alexander the Great.
There's a paper available online called Tracing The Script And The Language Of The Ancient Macedonians PDF.
If you want to know more about the Rosetta Stone... It's a fascinating read, the ancient Macedonians were already using vowels back then and the majority of the spoken words are still in use today!
Translation of the Rosetta Stone (into English).
www.sacred-texts.com/egy/trs/trs07.htm
@@PeterMilanovski Alexander the Great wasn’t a Slav, and that script is Demotic. Slavs didn’t even come into the Balkans for almost a thousand years after Alexander’s death.
@@jcspider7259 thanks! Though the translation is from 1905, it is based on what they were able to read from the greek text which at that point in time wasn't an advanced from of littreture. The middle text on the other hand is not Egyptian Demotic as was believed, it's ancient Slavic Macedonian Sanskrit text! The Macedonian Sanskrit text contains vowels and consonants which is why people had difficulty trying to decipher it. But it has recently been deciphered and the scientific paper called Tracing The Script And The Language Of The Ancient Macedonians PDF is available for free download. Not only can we now read the ancient Egyptian text but we can now know what it sounded like!
I think that it's amazing that the ancient Slavic Macedonian Sanskrit predates both English and Latin in which to my knowledge, a lot of Latin is based on ancient Slavic Macedonian words! For example, the word greek comes from the Macedonian word Grejci pronounced Greytsi meaning those who came, the word was Latinised into Greceous or Greco which is where the word greek in English came from!
This particular paper is not widely known and I'm sure that Greece is keeping quiet about it because it demonstrates that the Macedonians were never greek and that the greeks didn't play a major role as they would have you believe.
I personally haven't had a close look at the greek text to see if it is in fact greek! To anyone who sees it, it appears to be greek but I have read about a manuscript that was found in a greek church in Alexandria that was believed to be ancient greek, a few scholars from, I think that they were from Denmark, were working on it and were having difficulty reading it, they sent some pictures of the text to a Macedonian linguist that they had worked together on a previous project and he replied with a translation. As it turned out, the manuscript was written in Slavic Macedonian with greek letters. So who knows what is going to come out of all this, we might end up with some clarification on the ancient Egyptian text.
If you are interested in the Rosetta Stone text's, Google the paper word for word as stated above, it's a fascinating read, there's a lot that is not known about ancient Slavic Macedonian history, it's actually as old as Egyptian history but it tends to be overlooked as Greece has convinced us that it's greek and all that we know about it is that Alexander the Great was Macedonian and Macedonians no longer exist! And yet the same words as they were actually spoken back in 196Bc by Ptolemy and Kleopatra and Alexander the Great are still in use today by the modern day Macedonians..
There's a lot to read if you are interested in ancient Macedonian history, I found a website that is hosting a lot of paperwork from a guy called Basil Chulev, everything from the Macedonian culture to their religious beliefs (which I'm not religious but found an understanding for why everything is the way it is today)... Simply Google Basil Chulev and something should show up, the name of the site started with the letter A but I can't remember what it was called... But well worth it if ancient history is of interest to you...
@@ryanwalters5290 that's exactly what Greece would have you believe, if you know anything about greek history then you should know that it has been changed on 3 separate occasions to suit whatever their needs were at that point in time.
The scientific paper called Tracing The Script And The Language Of The Ancient Macedonians PDF which is available for free download shows that the middle text on the Rosetta Stone is in fact ancient Slavic Macedonian Sanskrit text! Not only is it Slavic Macedonian but the majority of the words used on the Rosetta Stone are still in use today by the modern day Slavic Macedonians! Yes! In 196Bc there were Slavic Macedonians! The same Sanskrit Slavic Macedonian text on the Rosetta Stone has also been found in Kokino Macedonia carved into stone and dated by the French to around 6000Bc! There's no archeological evidence of greek existence before 1500Bc! None whatsoever! No one ever say's Alexander the Great of Greece! It's a real no brainer, it's only logical sense that the middle text is ancient Slavic Macedonian! And it's really not that hard to work it out if it's true or not, download the scientific paper called Tracing The Script And The Language Of The Ancient Macedonians PDF, and you can see that it is in fact ancient Slavic Macedonian, the Sanskrit alphabet is translated into modern Slavic Macedonian and then into English..
The ancient Slavic Macedonians were a far more advanced civilization than people realise, they would have to be, there would be no way to conquer the known world if all they were was small time petty thieves, this effort required an advanced nation behind it.. it's not much different to how things work today!
They ancient Slavic Macedonians worked it out that it's far better to occupy and rule a nation of people than to go in and destroy it and take whatever wealth that they can find, instead it's better to keep the nation going while you continually export the wealth accumulated back to Macedonia, that's why the greeks are not assimilated, nor was any other nation of people! This tactic is still being used today! Take Greece today for example, their economy almost completely collapsed but the Germans stepped in and offered financial support! This support doesn't come for free, Greece is never going to get out of debt! The Germans have them exactly where they want them, it's money for nothing! They are screwed but they aren't the only ones who are in that position, we know that America was doing the same thing to the Arab's.. it's an old Macedonian tactic, that's why Alexander the Great is studied so much! There's a lot more there than most people realise. But the Greeks want Macedonian history as their own and don't want anyone to work it out so they simply claim that ancient Macedonians no longer exist but they can't tell you what actually happened to them!
Whether you choose to accept that the ancient Macedonian people were Slavic and that the modern day Macedonians are the same people or you don't, if knowing history as it happened and as it was is important to you, then it's up to you to find out what the truth is!
There's no mention anywhere about a migration of Slavic people who moved from somewhere in the north to the south! There are no documents! The Israelites migration got a mention! Where is all this talk about migrating slav's actually coming from anyway? Probably Greece..
"Look at this. It's Worthless" "But I take it, bury it in the sand for a thousand years, it becomes priceless"
You belong in a museum! 😉
@@BarNuun LOL I was just adding another quote from the movie.
The British are the ultimate finder's keeper's champs
or maniacal kleptomaniacs
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@John Murdoch We have plenty of American stuff that we `look after`
@John Murdoch Brits fighting Brits, while we had a real war going in Europe, vote was taken in parliament on if we should send more troops and the nays had it, because trade was more important, America didn't even tell the French who'd bankrupt themselves.
The British are certified bad asses in Acting and Narrating stories and this coming from a black man in the U.S. who grew up in the ghetto.
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You missed an incredibly important point. Champollion was able to translate the text only through the help of Coptic priests from the coptic Orthodox Church in Egypt. The church still uses ancient Egyptian language in liturgy through its modern form, the Coptic script. Champollion merely made the connection that the ancient Egyptian language never truly died, but still lived through the Coptic priests and script.
Coptic priests should develop a coptic language course for Duolingo to help disseminate the language.
it never died we still use the same tongue language... just the written form of it transferred to Arabic scripture.
@@sarcophegus coptic is currently only used as a liturgical language, it had a couple of dialects which were not entirely mutually intelligible and it is definitely not mutually intelligible with arabic. However Egyptians have told me that it left a mark on Egyptian Arabic.
@@j.obrien4990 that’s not accurate, the same exact spoken language hasn’t changed, it’s only the written part of it that has changed. There is no such thing as as hyroglyphic language, it’s a made up name or whatever other name like Coptic . The dialect used in Egypt even though it’s called Arabic nowadays is very different from how the rest of Arab countries speak.
@@sarcophegus So you're telling me that the Coptic liturgy used in Egyptian churches since long before the Arabs arrived was arabic? hmmm.
Rosetta Stone language learning should have been a sponsor of this video
Duolingo!!!!
@@varadbhosale731 Triolingual
There's actually 3 languages on the Rosetta Stone, Egyptian, greek and Slavic Macedonians, the official language of Alexander the Great!
I was thinking about that institution too lol
@@PeterMilanovski Duolingo is the name of a language learning app
I've been asking you to do this and the Dead Sea scrolls for over a year now and you knock them out both in the same week. It was like you did this just for me!!! Thanks.
Feel like I watched so many Simon videos throughout my pregnancy that my newborn finds his voice more soothing than mine
So my folks have a replica Rosetta Stone in their house, and as a small child (maybe 6?) I heard about it on tv and ran to them and shouted about how their wall stone was famous and worth lots of money!! 🤣🤣🤣
Thankfully they took the time to explain it wasn’t the original, and that’s why they had it up there! But it must have taken every bit of focus not to just fall about laughing at me, instead of a couple of giggles!
Nah, maybe you don't have kids, maybe you do, but I guarantee they thought your excitement and earnestness was the cutest thing they ever saw, and they probably treasure that memory whether they say so or not. Cheers!
Cringe
@@bigguy7353 i so have kids, and I love it when they do this stuff.
@@bigguy7353 that's the sweetest UA-cam comment I've ever read. I need to throw up now.
@@shadymcnasty5920 are you the Grinch?
I made an exact replica"smaller", for a project and I got a D. You know why? Because it was to good. Yep. They thought my parents did it all.
I took dozens of pictures of a replica at the library, lined them up, and made every, single piece of text perfectly. I'll never forgive them. Yes, I cried.
Im sorry to hear that. I hope you are OK now.
I'm really sorry to hear that but it not the first time that certain professors turns to out to simply be incapable to see beyond their nose narrow minded they really are...
You spent all that time studying ancient glyphs, but never learned the difference from "to" to "too". That's two bad.
@@magnificentfailure2390 I new that was coming...
@@michaelpipkin9942 if you want to know what is actually written in the middle text, it's not Egyptian Demotic as stated in this video, it's actually the language of Alexander the Great, ancient Slavic Macedonian Sanskrit text, there's a free download called Tracing The Script And The Language Of The Ancient Macedonians PDF... The Macedonians were already using vowels back then in 190Bc! That's pretty advanced for their time, no one else was using vowels back then!
I never knew that the Rosetta Stone was one of [presumably] many mass produced “flyers”! That concept is super intriguing.
@GE B There are likely many more out there, though given the fate of the first one found, they could be anywhere (or bits of them at least). It is in the text itself that decrees that a copy of the stone was to be set up in all Level 1, 2 and 3 temples (no one seems sure about what that means). The British Museum copy is only a small part of the original. Others were around 2 meters in height.
@@PhilJonesIII The Rosetta Stone is P. R., perhaps ?
Perfect timing. After binge watching Roman/ Egyptian history, I have started to look into hieroglyphics. Another fascinating video. Thanks
Translation of the Rosetta Stone (into English).
www.sacred-texts.com/egy/trs/trs07.htm
@@jcspider7259 thank you. 😊
@@Trystyna Glad to see it is of interest to others.
It’s “hieroglyphs” *NOT* “hieroglyphics” !
@@douglaswilkinson5700 I’m a writer NOT an editor. What a rude comment btw
Great description of the Stone. I knew there a mix within the languages, but your breakdown immediately made me think, oh, like emoji mixed with words and footnotes on how to say things. Got it!
There are a mix of languages although Simon has actually got it wrong! The top text is Egyptian, the bottom is greek but the middle text is ancient Slavic Macedonian Sanskrit text... It's not Egyptian Demotic as stated in the video.. Simon didn't see the paper called Tracing The Script And The Language Of The Ancient Macedonians PDF...
It's been called Egyptian Demotic even though no one could read it but it has since been deciphered...
3:15 - Chapter 1 - Translating the stone
4:55 - Chapter 2 - Translating the translations
7:30 - Chapter 3 - Rosetta home
- Chapter 4 -
"Totally going against form, the French ...." Wow wow wow wow wow!
Oof
Burn
Boom, ROASTED.
C'est en effet assez dur.
Mais toujours de bonne guerre ;)
@Sheikh Yerbouti 🤣🤣🤣
I am a Locksmith obviously, the story was in my trade magazines in the 80s and 90s. I may not remember all the details perfectly, but here we go. 1840s young Yale the son of the founder , He and his family went to London to look into setting up a factory to make locks and England. He was in London I am looking at different sites, and was hopping from haberdashery to haberdashery, he entered this one haberdashery and it was full of Egyptian artifacts, you came upon a table with a mechanical device on it that he recognized to be a lock. This lock was different than anything He had ever seen before, it was very old and dilapidated to the point of it being a cutaway of it's self. He drew pictures of it and 10 years later he patented it, what he discovered was the pen Tumbler Locking system we use today, I believe it's 1854 Patented . So he back engineered 4000 year old lock! That's some fun isn't it. But The story about all these Egyptian artifacts found their way to England is even more fun. In the 1840s and 50s England expanding the Kingdom found themselves in Egypt with thousands of people there, there's nothing to eat. These 250 ships that they used made multiple trips every year so that there was a ship arriving almost daily unloading food and supplies to keep these people live, they actually leased ships of the type they needed from other countries. Well there was nothing coming out of Egypt all they have is sand no need to import that. When the ships left port in England they were balanced perfectly to make it around Cape Horn where the water is always bad, after they made it to Egypt and offloaded they needed ballast rocks to balance the ships to get back home, well they clean the beaches off of all available stone for miles and miles and we're looking around for ballast when I thought it would be a good idea to use the statues and stuff they found buried in the sand for Ballast so they could make it home safely. Once they got home they put the stuff out on the dock and had an auction, to help pay for the trips . People from all over England came down to the docks and bought Egyptian artifacts to take home. They asked tribal people they encountered and they had no connection to the Egyptian artifacts . And told them it was OK to take whatever they needed they didn't care. At the time there was no government to deal with. With The state that The Middle East is in these days it seems that these artifacts are safer in England. But nevertheless these artifacts saved a lot of British lives therefore it is part of British history, it was also a logical Business decision. It help cover the cost of these trips .
Has Egypt moved LOL.
I have aboriginal stone axes that were passed down through the family. Some ancient, some a few hundred years old..all worthless!
This is the best UA-cam comment I’ve ever seen
This tale has fascinated me since I was around 10 years old and someone gave me a book about "ancient worlds." Nice to see it so accessible here in an accurate well-written piece narrated by Simon.
You can find out more about the Rosetta Stone by googling Tracing The Script And The Language Of The Ancient Macedonians PDF, the middle text isn't Egyptian Demotic as stated in the video, it's ancient Slavic Macedonian Sanskrit. The ancient Macedonians were using vowels back then, I don't know of another language that was at that point in time..
As a Greek I can read and understand 90% of the Greek part on the Rossetta stone. The Greek part is remarkably not difficult to understand for Greeks.
As an Egyptian, It's impossible for me to read the Coptic one. I think Egyptian Christians may understand a bit of it since they still use Coptic in Egyptian Churches.
@@Xdooda they use ancient hieroglyphs in Christian churchs. The irony is not lost on me lmao
@@shadymcnasty5920 3 languages are on the stone bozo
Rosetta Stone’s content not important but it’s assistance in translating a language is priceless.
The greek text got it started but we are going to find out more now that the middle text was found to be ancient Slavic Macedonian Sanskrit and not as mentioned in the video as Egyptian Demotic... The ancient Macedonians had already been using vowels back then and now we know how the words were actually pronounced... It's a fascinating read that few people know about...
It is political incorrect, but given the turmoil in that part of the world, I am glad that a unique object like the Rosetta stone is kept in London.
Yes, so many ancient treasures have been lost (blown up)
That's why it and many other treasures in the BM will never go back. One of the few places in the world its protection can be guaranteed. I wouldn't even trust the US with it. It's a free musuem, they close too early for me but it's remarkably accessible, to everybody - the only problem is the Egypt section tends to get way too busy.
the rosetta stone is indeed awesome in person and turned out to be much more useful than originally thought
It's actually even more useful since the middle text has been recently deciphered and found to be ancient Slavic Macedonian Sanskrit text and not Egyptian Demotic as stated in the video. The middle text was believed to be Egyptian Demotic because it seemed logical since no one could read it but that has since changed. The papers on the latest can be found by searching for Tracing The Script And The Language Of The Ancient Macedonians PDF... Should you want to know more about it...
@@PeterMilanovski You are the only one who really knows whats up. Shouldn't there be more Ancient Macedonian texts in the lands of the ancient slavic Macedonia? Ive heard they have found so far 20.000+ epigraphs in the ancient slavic Macedonian region but all of them are in ancient greek and some in latin. They really are hiding something from us...
If _anyone_ had a right to carve his name on the temple it was Champollion.
Great video, I've seen the Rosetta stone several times and it blows away every time
One man’s trash is another man’s priceless historical artifact.
One mans trash is another mans untrash. -Ricky TPB’s
Litterally ;) Okay, putting the joke aside, the most tell-tale sources for arhaeologists are the waste dump areas. Like the Great Pit near Deir el-Medina (Luxor West Bank). Most facts about politics, economy and daily life we know about Set Maat (the tomb builders' village at Deir el-Medina) are known from the thrown away scripts on stone slabs or pot shards (ostracha). It is such a large source that paleoeconomy is largely based on them. The other sources are temple libraries-most of the Abu-Sir library contains reports and accounts about the overseen royal properties and almost nothing religious is there.
I can't say enough how much I enjoy all of your channels Simon!
Imagine making one of the biggest discoveries of all time sand being referred as "A FRENCH SOLDIER "
I've been waiting for this for so long. Awesome that is being covered now.
Translation of the Rosetta Stone (into English).
www.sacred-texts.com/egy/trs/trs07.htm
@@jcspider7259 Very interesting. Thanks.
@@a1nelson :)
I learned about the Rosetta Stone in college in my typography class and then went and saw it in real life! It's HUGE!
I have since the age of 6 loved ancient Egypt. This was what made me also love history as a subject but more of a whole.
And here I was picturing a clay tablet you could hold like a tablet PC.
Fancy meeting you here, how’s the crusading going?
One of the best videos on this channel yet! Love it
It would be like finding a forgotten Presidential Address sent by email in three languages.
Not about disasters or death, and I really enjoyed it. Kudos.
I love how the British museum has rewritten history to cover their own mistake. The Rosetta stone was actually thought to be Basalt because it was covered in black ink when it was first discovered in order to make copies of the surface before it ever left Egypt. In fact, before it was translated, many people claimed that it must be very important for the Egyptians to take the time to carve the script into basalt, which is prone to chipping. The only reason we now know it is granite is because it was cleaned with modern chemicals which removed some of the ink, much to everyone's surprise.
It was a really embarrassing flub for the museum at the time and made big headlines. Now they are trying to pull the "We knew it was granite the whole time!" BS rather than admit they displayed it with inaccurate information for over 100 years.
Bringing Egypt Back to Life would be a great channel
Egypt: We want our Egyptian artifact back.
Britain: Finders, keepers, losers, weepers!
Britain: You Egyptian chaps needed to take this up with Napoleon back when he first carted it off. It's ours, now.
Britain: Sure, just as soon as you return all the treasures from the rest of the Pharaohs that you robbed.
Technically, the stone has very limited historic value in Egyptian history, but it does have more value to modern history. Egypt does have many similar more complete and more ancient stones but non is of similar (modern) significance.
Usually, the Egyptian authorities do discriminate when giving licenses to foreign missions based on their countries history of denying reparations or allowing the sale of Egyptian antiques.
Why are u so poor Pamela ? lol
@ROB H8U Not true. These objects stayed in their homeland intact and safe for thousands of years. They would have been eventually discovered and stayed in their home country.
The argument you are presenting is completely false, especially when you are talking about a country like Egypt; everyone knew (even before the discovery of hieroglyphics) that this land is extremely rich in history, this knowledge was never forgotten (thanks to the bible and ofc the pyramids). The pyramids are like beacons saying come and dig here!
That was fascinating Simon. Thank you! I am so sorry that I didn’t go see that when I had the chance.
I wonder if they'll ever be a Rosetta Stone type video found centuries from now that decode all the long dead incomprehensible memes from Business Blaze. 🤔🤔
Is possible to create it on Memory of Mankind...
@@ErickSoares3 Passed down by the OGBB legends
Sam is actively destroying all attempts. You do not go against the Meme God. He desires chaos and confusion in the distant future. Allegedly...
@@dudepool7530 He's probably planned out his funeral as some sort of puzzle meme to intrigue future generations.
😹😹😹
Damn how many channels you got, they keep showing up in my recommendations, not complaining though, good work man.
simon is single handedly the hardest working youtuber i have noticed. he is EVERYWHERE and constantly pumping out content. he’s damn entertaining too.
He even have a second channel called '' Vsauce '' where he talks about really interesting theories and such.
@@Skånerost88 idk if this a joke but that’s a different guy, his name is michael.
@@Skånerost88 ah okay then 😂
It’s called turning up n reading autocue for ££££
@@coolcat6103 he does a lot more than that but alright bud
With every video Fact Boy turns more and more into Your Boy with the Blaze. The metamorphosis is amazing to behold.
Translation: It's just a big ol' leaflet that they threw into the recycling pile... :P
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@@Red_Lanterns_Rage Haha - v funny!
I’m glad you did a video on this and I love all your other videos and I really didn’t know this much about the Rosetta Stone like I knew what it was but not this much thank you once again
If you want to know more, Google Tracing The Script And The Language Of The Ancient Macedonians PDF, it's actually about the decipher of the middle text which was believed to be Egyptian Demotic but no one could read it, well it's no wonder why no one could read it, it wasn't Egyptian LoL. It's actually ancient Slavic Macedonian Sanskrit text, the official language of Alexander the Great and Ptolemy and Kleopatra... It's a fascinating read that not to many people know about...
Hi fellow Whistlerphiles.
2500 years from now a random person breaks breaks what once looked like a wall... They find a Canadian flyer and finally we figure out how to read french again. There is finally a reason everything is said twice here
The US needs a Rosetta Stone to translate the Internal Revenue's Tax Code.
or an app
it's not a mistake tax code is incomprehensible.. see The Rules for Rulers on YT
Or we can topple the IRS by not paying our taxes for a year or five and there will be absolutely nothing they can do but go defunct
@@patrickharvey158 Do you see the problems in your country and know how to fix them? you've come to the right place..
ua-cam.com/video/rStL7niR7gs/v-deo.html
In my 20s I remember looking at the Rosetta Stone and being amazed by it. I could hardly make out individual symbols and the Greek just looked like jibberish. I had very little understanding of Ancient Greek back then, but thought I could at least pick out some words that I knew. No such luck. I kept thinking that this held the key to translation. I think it did spark a love of ancient languages in me. I have been studying languages from the British Isles ever since.
Then you should have a look at a document that is right up your alley, it's called Tracing The Script And The Language Of The Ancient Macedonians PDF, which by the way is what the middle text on the Rosetta Stone is, it's not Egyptian Demotic as stated in the video, no one could read it until recently! The museum of London still hasn't updated it's website regarding this...
Anyway, the Macedonians were already using vowels back in 190Bc, I don't think that any other languages used vowels back then, could it be possible that the English language got it's vowels from the Macedonians? Fascinating stuff!
@@PeterMilanovski Thank you. I will have a look.
@@historybuff7491 history is important, and when a video like this is made and an important key piece of information is left out, people are pointed in the wrong direction...
@@historybuff7491 no you will not.this guy doing propaganda.
@@kenmasters2034 ok
Should we expand it to preserve the languages on this stone along with current ones for future civilizations just in case?
Oh yeah , let’s like chisel right on there it’s not like we’d ruin the Rosetta Stone or anything.
@@tarn1135 or just add another blank stone....
@@tarn1135 oh please you can't be this dumb!!!
I'm happy to see the stone has finally been put under glass, we need to protect our antiquities. I am ashamed to say that , gosh it has to be 40 years ago, I was so in awe, and not thinking I touched the stone while at the British Museum. The guard was on me immediately, rightly so. I still remember how guilty I felt, no matter that I so love the history, I forgot about anything except making sure it was really in front of me. Anyway, it was wonderful to see the stone and , as i said, I am glad to see we've become more aware of protecting these treasures.
Your antiquities? Its egyptian, its ours not yours and we want it back. And your corrupt ass country doesnt wanna give it back LOL
This is definitely on my bucket list of "Things to See". I've had a lifelong fascination with the ancient Mediterranean cultures. Thanks to my time in the USN, I got to see much of that part of the world. Hopefully this global poo storm blows over soon and I can go see all the things the Brits commandeered, sorry "collected for posterity's sake".
The British museum is worth the trip alone in my opinion. But you can also see a Templar church and the tower and.......
Also it's not that far to Scotland. The whole island is like the size of my state.
I want to go back.
The stone isn't that impressive. It could be interesting if you could read one of the languages on it.
@@dragonmartijn I don't speak Arabic, but I found Petra awe inspiring. I have a loose grasp of Latin, but I found the Coloseum to be a wonderful structure. I don't speak any ancient South American language, but I was left speechless by Machu Pichu. One doesn't need to speak the languages of our predecessors in order to appreciate their achievements.
@@dragonmartijn if you look at shit that old made by a dude with a rock and another rock and feel awe. There is something wrong with you.
Everybody goes on about how amazing the stone looks. But really, its a grey stone with writing on it. It is amazing for what it is. As for how it looks? Its a grey rock with scratches on it to the eye.
I would like to point out during the arab spring the cairo museum was looted and many priceless objects lost. Imagine if we had returned this. It would of been gone quicker than a pack of marlborough on the suez cannal
Yeah everyone would take a huge rock in a riot.
It wasnt a riot. it was a revolution. Also people know how much stuff is worth. Just because they are in egypt dosent mean they dont have pick ups and a forklifts.
@@wpjohn91 Yeah if you manage to steal it easy to hide and sell lol😂
People take world famous paintings, statues and gems all the time. They find a seller. Anyway. Enoy more of Simon's vids. Business blaze is the best.
Enjoy*
He says there was 3 languages on the stone but I was taught that it was only 2 (Egyptian & Greek) but was written in the 3 different scripts. 2 of the them being Egyptian scripture, similar to the English print and cursive writing, and the other, of course, Greek scripture.
The British Museum: Look at all the stuff we stole.
Lol James Acaster
To be fair, a decent portion of it was genuinely traded. Start giving people who have never tasted sugar, well, bagfulls of sugar, and they are genuinely willing to trade some of their stuff.
Technically we didn’t steal the stone the French did.....
Tactically acquired.
Yeah how dare they preserve the world's history? We should just let the crazy religious groups have everything back and let them destroy our species' history for Allah. /s
This is such a mighty object. Evertime I visit London, I need to visit the Rosetta Stone.
"Naturally the Egyptians want the stone back...or to borrow it for a time."
At first I was like wut? Then I was all icwudt.
Its Nubian Stone not Egyptian Stone. Your letting him white wash history.
@@blueteam8929 we waz kings
nubians are part of Egypt they live in the south
you aren't
that's nit hagiasophia that's Mohamed Ali Mosque in Egypt unlike hagiasophia it was basically built to be a mosque
@@mostafamahmoud3485 Ah! Forgive my ignorance and my brains overactive pattern recognition.
I was just thinking a couple days ago id like to know more on this topic.
Great job
There's more that didn't make it in this video, you will need to Google Tracing The Script And The Language Of The Ancient Macedonians PDF, the middle text isn't Egyptian Demotic as stated but in fact it's Slavic Macedonian Sanskrit text.. the official language of Alexander the Great! It's a fascinating read, it's the latest finding from the Rosetta Stone which not to many people are aware of...
@@PeterMilanovski Thanks Peter, ill check it out!
@@jackiehopson8334 your welcome 😄
The year is 5438, and the English language of the 21st century has finally been reconstructed from a multilingual IKEA furniture assembly manual.
@carl hartford how u know that 🌬️
Thank you! I learned something.
Don't know how you do it, Simon, but you consistently walk the line between "slightly irritating" and "consistently entertaining." Either way, I'm a fan.
I like to think I can be both.
@@Sideprojects Aren't you just a talking head for hire? I've seen you on a lot of channels over the years. Some shit and some not.
@@methos4866 aren’t you just a troll for hire? I’ve seen you on a lot of threads over the years, some shit and some not.
Surely this guy must be trolling with the "Yasssss" face thumbnail...
I once was telling a coworker how I stepped into the British Museum and lo and behold there was the Rosetta Stone! And she looked utterly baffled and said, “You mean … that’s a … thing? I thought that was just that language software.” Millennials ….
@@toxqui11 So you support returning it to Ptolemaic Greeks who created it in 196 BC?
I mean, obviously you don't support giving it to the people who currently live in Egypt, after all, they invaded and conquered those lands way later, around 646 AD.
I had a t shirt with a rendition of the Rosetta stone on it that I found at a thrift store, was disappointed that not one person ever commented or asked me about it :/
Wow. So the downfall of the Egyptian Empire was emoticons.
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Which is how the planet will fall in this day and age.
@@billpilling5725 how you knowv
@@thebluerock6048 im psychic.
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I always wondered what it was, i paid no attention at school so thank you Simon x
as much as i feel lucky to have been able to see the Rosetta Stone up close at the British Museum, it really does belong back in egypt
well stated and made simply fun - thank you!
Tool - Rosetta Stoned.... enjoy
Damn you. 🤣🤣🤣 I was going to go for this angle too. 👍🤘🤘👍🤣
As usual, an excellent video. I would love to hear the story of Egypt's downfall. How it went from the great pharaohs and pyramids to what it is today. Any chance that could be a topic?
Thank God there were Greek on that stone and we can read what it says!
That also shows what impact had the Greek colonies around the Mediterranean Sea.
The difference between the ancient Greek and other ancient languages is thy the Greek language is still used!
Ancient Egyptian, Latin and Sanskrit… they are all ‘’dead languages’’
Greek is probably the longest consistently spoken language, from ancient times till today!
Cool! Simon is in the house. So bring it on. 😃
There's also that artifacts are way, way safer in Britain than pretty much anywhere in the Middle East. (With a few exceptions.)
It's not your history or artifacts they are ours... imagine us taking the shity stones u have in the UK and claiming they r safer in Egypt during the world war 2...
@@abd28elshamekh I'm not British. (Also you don't seem to know much about WWII if you thought Egypt was safe during it.)
Also there's a very good chance that you don't have a whole lot of claim to that history there. It is Ptolemaic, so actually it's Greek's history if we want to go by ethnicity. And if we go by culture modern Egyptians have as much in common with ancient Egyptians as the British do. The only thing that you can claim is that you live on the same land.
@@abd28elshamekh How is the outer layer of the Great Pyramids and the Assyrian Bull doing after Islam vandalized them?
@@CampaignerSC Islam vandalised the pyramids, what?
@@timothypeterson4781 that’s stretching it to say modern Egyptians have little to do with ancient Egypt.
Been to the British Museum during three of my holidays from Oz to the UK.
Definitely one of my favourite places in the Inner Solar System. 😎
So there's lots more of these out there and all we need to do to find them is start tearing apart two thousand year old buildings....
I love this so much!
day 1 of suggesting “Das Bauhaus” art school
Cheers Simon
I dunno. I feel like the modern inhabitants of Egypt only started to care about the land's ancient history once it became really popular with foreigners.
Bingo! When Islam swept through the middle east so much history was destroyed, and the radicals these days take pleasure in destroying anything that isn't islamic. The Taliban destroys what it finds, as did ISIS, what a shame that religious nut jobs destroy their people's history.
its absurd that someone from egypt has to travel across an ocean in order to see something apart of THEIR history
@@robertharper3754 Interesting viewpoint. In truth, Caesar burned the Royal Library in Alexandria during his war with Pompey (though it might have been an unintended consequence of setting the harbor on fire). Later on in 391, christisns under Theophilus destroyed the remaining library in Alexandria in their zeal to remove "paganist" source material.
It seems the looting and destruction wrought during the wars begun by European crusaders in the 11th and 12th century was a greater culprit in the destruction of ancient knowledge than anything that occurred during the islamic expansion in the 7th Century. In fairness, libraries in the Middle East were also sold off by their muslim owners to pay for the defense they needed to mount against said crusaders. My source material is the Encyclopedia Britannica.
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Crusade only occurred during few centuries and were not even that relevant for the Muslims (not a lot of writing speaking about crusades, at least far less than Europeans).
Their "golden age", was only achieving to be a bit more developed than Europeans during their dark age. While holding the richest and most civilized region of the world since the beginning of civilization, Middle East and Egypt.
Regions they managed to turn into shithole in few centuries.
If you really want to blame on everything on Europeans, go ahead.
But don't be surprised that Europeans are tired of that go far right.
@@joejankoski8471 hey rube, Islam tried to take over Europe. you ponce in here and tell us the Crusaders started a war? Crusaders finished the war Islam started. you suck. get lost.
How do they keep it from disintegrating? I know that the moisture in London is far superior to the Egyptian humidity, and they have had issues in the past because of this factor. Just curious.
I think granite lasts a very long time, it had a layer covering it in the past until they removed it. Now it’s sat in glass, the room is quite dark and I think temperature controlled or at least there aren’t extreme temperatures.
I just want to live long enough to find out the truth about “ancient Egypt.”
Let me guess, it was aliens?
A lost, relatively capable chapter of human history is almost more interesting than if it were aliens tbh
@@KamikazeMagpie I agree completely.
@@carymartin1150 No. I think a civilization predating “Egypt” built all the stuff and the Egyptians found it.
@@jimmyglea if you think that then you will be very disappointed by the truth lol.
How many channels have you got man jesus!
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I cannot stress this enough... they are "hieroglyphs" that's what they are called. "Hieroglyphic" on the other hand, is an adjective.
So it is a "hieroglyhic text" but NOT written in "hieroglyphics"
Nevertheless its a great video with great research. Its amazing that nearly 200 years since its discovery, I'm able to read basic hieroglyphs
If you are interested, I think you could explain how British Royals lost their powers.
When will we find the "Simonetta" stone? It would help us translate Simon's vague allusions. 😂
what are you talking about?
It's called business blaze
It has been found...it was ground into a fine white powder...oh wait...
I remember reading that it was a decree of tax exemption for the temple associated with the specific stone...so of course they wanted it as large as possible, even back then...death and taxes were something everyone wanted to avoid.
There's more information regarding the Rosetta Stone by googling Tracing The Script And The Language Of The Ancient Macedonians PDF, the middle text isn't Egyptian Demotic as stated in the video, Simon has actually got something wrong!
It was only the Europeans that ever gave a toss about ancient Egypt. And set about trying to understand it. Without these Europeans there would not be any Egyptology at all.
False, attempts were made by Arabic scholars a thousand year before, and they were pretty decent.
You have to know this: rediscovering something at a certain time, doesn’t mean that someone else wouldn’t have discovered it.
After the Rosetta stone were found, so many multilingual tablets were found. Modern computers would have deciphered the text in 20 mins not 20 years like in the 19th century.
For every good thing these Europeans contributed to Egyptology, there are 10 bad things they did.400 years from now, it wouldn’t matter if the language was rediscovered in the 19th or 21st century, what would matter is that so many priceless artefacts left their home country because if 19th century colonialism.
What an ignorant thing to say. To think Egyptology wouldn’t exist at all is just bonkers.
I always thought Roessta stone the company was named after the founder, but it seems I was very wrong.
Us brits can be a dick when it comes to taking stuff and then not giving it back
Our government is like that, even to the Elgin Marbles
The vast majority of items in British museums were legally acquired according to the rules and cultural norms of the time.
If items were not legally acquired, then they should be returned, if feasible to do so.
We need to stop applying modern cultural standards to centuries ago.
@@Locutus according to who? What international accord gave them the right to... you know what, it doesn’t matter. We live in the modern world. So if we have the knowledge and the means to correct an error, like theft, we should. The bigger problem is obviously the volume of stolen artifacts that is there.
@@Locutus are the artifacts made by British people, if not, give them back... Simple as that.
Imagine an Egyptian kid having to work hard to get a ticket to go and see an artifact that his/her ancestors made... Not forgetting he has to pay the British government for the privilege!
It is just absurd in my opinion
@@tafadzwandingindi1370 Public museums are free in the UK. They have been for 20 years. You can go to the British Museum and see all of its artefacts for free. You can also go to the National Art Gallery and see art from Picasso, Da Vinci, Monet, and other great artists of the world for free. All paid for by the British public.
This was a goodone
Given Islam's penchant for destroying pre-islamic artifacts it's probably best it remains in England. At least until the English destroy themselves through their own racism against themselves.
The Government teaches us that keeping stolen goods is the right thing to do.
What happened to the Egyptian people? They destroyed and forgot so much of their own ancient culture.
Most of what is known, found and preserved was done by westerners..
They were destroyed for the practices they were involved in, namely rituals and summonings. Also the Egyptian glyphs are yet to be fully translated to this day, so all these experts saying they deciphered the entire language are lying. From what is known, the land of Kemet had a great kingdom going all the way to the beginning of man but suffered a cataclysmic event and afterwards kept suffering from them till they were reduced to this lower state. The westerners clearly have great respect and knowledge of the practices they were involved in, who knows exactly what they are hiding but even the founding fathers were in deep with Egyptian symbology.
@opener of the world don't know what you are saying but the Egyptians were dark, the current inhabitants of Egypt are not how they used to look at all. The Egyptians were tall and as dark as the soil, they are actually the Neolithic tribes and other tribes around the area but they are not Arabs, Arabs are just a mix of various shemitic and 3domite tribes.
@opener of the world you are delusional, kemet literally means land of Ham and guess what? Ham was a black man
@opener of the world are you Arab? Yes or no?
@opener of the world I already told you the current inhabitants of Egypt are not the Egyptians of the past, the Egyptians were renowned for their height and dark complexion, you are delusional.
I hear their software is excellent for learning all sorts of new languages!
yes I really did enjoy this content, except for the political sneer that the UK does not have a good reason to return the stone to Egypt.
As you mentioned yourself, it is only valuable because Western people decided not to smash it up and then used considerable energy to study it.
It is therefore a Western European artifact with no other intrinsic value, that does not belong in an Egyptian museum. Especially considering the way Egypt treats their artifacts in their care.
Would love to see a piece on coliseums around the world, e.g in the Middle East, Egypt, ect
In regards to whom rightfully owns the stone I'll defer to Attorney Lionel Hutz... "IT'S A THORNY LEGAL ISSUE, ALL RIGHT.
I'LL NEED TO REFER TO THE CASE OF FINDERS VS. KEEPERS."
how many channel does this guy have?? I can only monetize 2...