Not gonna lie I'm in the middle of a head gasket repair... I would highly recommend diy people to completely disassemble and clear the whole EGR cooler/valve and pipe leaving up to where it connects to the exhaust... Including removing the intake completely and cleaning out the EGR lines in the big black plastic intake housing.... Mine looked like it was full of black bacon grease... It barely let any air through.... All of the parts from the dealer would cost over $1000 to replace.... I cleaned it out with brake cleaner 2 years ago for $30 and it's been fine ever since... Mine had 250k at time of cleaning... We're at 300k now... No issue
Replacing it is the correct repair for the EGR. The newer part has an updated design. I tried cleaning EGRs to help save some money but I watched the older version being "lazy" switching from open to closed under load. This behavior went away when I replaced the valve with a brand new one. These parts do wear out.
I know someone with an 09 corolla with this issue. Car would rough idle, stall at stop signs, and vibrate. They spent 2000 dollars trying to self diagnose, and local mechanics, just to find out after replacing everything from catalytic converter to a MAF sensor to spark plugs to intake manifold gasket to 02 sensors to fuel pump. Crazy that even the Toyota dealership didn't catch it. I love to see you talking about older Yotas. My Scion xA is a 2005 and my Tacoma is an 04. I'm very glad you are not ashamed or afraid to express your Christian beliefs. I respect that greatly. Thanks again for another awesome video.
Thank you for this most well done diagnosis and maintenance /replacement video. You are the best for Toyota (DIY) techniques. The dirtiest aspect of combustion can not be solved by "clean gasolines" or " EGR Cleaner in a bottle". Circulation of dirty exhaust gases requires periodic cleaning of the recirculation system. Thanks for educating the Toyota DIY nation with this fine video.
Great to see a pro at work. I love the way you remove large items that are in the way just like that. I would probably spend half a day struggling with inadequate visibility. A pleasure to watch.
I just purchased a ct200h. Doing research about the car and hear a lot about bad head gasket, miss fires and egr valves. You put my mind at ease after watching. Great video.
It all depends on the year, doesn't it? It seems that versions after 2015 have received a number of modifications, segmentation, head gasket, egr valve, much more reliable supposedly, to be confirmed!
Amazing; I described these symptoms to the dealer, and was told to come back when it does it all the time... thanks for helping us all out with lazy diagnosis!
Having a third gen Prius myself, this one really got my attention! I had heard about the EGR cooler problem and didn't know what to do about it. I had not heard of the valve problem. I see the valve from the dealer is not much more than the Rockauto price, so if I have to replace it I will go with the Toyota kit from the TSB.
I just wanted to let you know how helpful this video was for me. I had this exact issue on my prius and thanks to this video I was able to diagnose the problem and remove the manifold to clean it. The problem is now fixed and the misfire is gone. Thank you!
I would just like to thank you for your informative video, my 2010 Prius was suffering from a very rough tick over, and not sure what the cause was, until I blocked of the EGR outlet like you did and the car went back to running normally. Spoke to the local dealer for a price for the EGR valve and was quoted £300+ UK pounds, I had found the part number for the EGR kit you mentioned and they are £52 UK pounds, My car has been into my local dealer today to have the EGR kit fitted today and my car is now running great again, the local dealer wasn’t convinced on my (your) diagnosis of the problem as they have never supplied and fitted a new EGR valve to Prius. I have got the old EGR valve off them and sure enough it is stuck open to the point I can’t push the valve back to the closed position. Thanks again for a great video.
@@ingalway Hi, This is in the UK, I ordered the EGR kit from my local Toyota dealer for £48 with discount, spoke to the service department and they agreed to fit the part I ordered for 2 hours labour, needed it done asap as my Prius is a taxi, I probably could of done it myself but would of taken a day to do it. Although the EGR kit car care nut mentions in the video is covered by a USA technical service bulletin, the part is also available from a UK Toyota dealer when ordered by the part number.
You have reminded me how powerful knowledge is. I love the no BS info and how you present it. I am also a mechanic for more years than I wish to admit and appreciate your efforts. I stumbled across your clips while deciding to take that leap and buy a RAV4 hybrid. Now I find myself ignoring my family while I watch a middle aged man show me a clogged EGR and manifold. You didn’t even need click bait! I hope others appreciate the valuable information you provide. I don’t get on the tools that much these days which worried me regarding what I will no longer get to learn. I guess I have gone the long way around to say thank you. Now this old fart has to click that subscribe button I guess.
Love this video! As a dealership mechanic, I get all the young "recently certified": techs to work with me for a few weeks. Most are so anxious to just start replacing parts when it's very obvious that it appears faulty. I tell them no, we are going to look at everything else related before we start replacing parts. They always ask "Why?". I tell them "How would you feel if you brought your $60K truck to the dealership with a problem and it wasn't fixed right the first time?" In my experience, and probably yours too, most would rather pay a bit more and wait a bit longer to have it done right the first time.
Callbacks are demoralizing for everybody involved. Everybody ends up with some but the best end up with the fewest. I don't remember everything I fixed but I remember everything that came back on me. (Electronics, but same thing.)
@@flagmichael I've had a few in my 40+ years, but one still haunts to this day. I had a 2013 Ford Fusion Hybrid in the bay that would go into limp mode. The car only had 489 miles on it and the customer was very upset. The problem was intermittent so we only had a limited amount of time to diagnose when it acted up. We went thru every single hybrid part, module, pin connector and it would not yield it secret. After a little over a month, multiple Ford engineer visits, and a customer who threated legal action against the dealer the car was bought back under the lemon law.
Did the EGR myself last week. 2012 Prius V with 123K. Absolutely needed the cooler off and soaked. Completely blocked with deposits to the point I had to fish fine wire through each of the small passages. Also… found a huge pool of oil in the intake manifold below the throttle body. The PCV valve design looks like it has much to be desired. Replaced the valve and next oil change I’m going to reduce the amount of oil I put back into the crankcase from 4.4 to maybe 4.1 quarts. Gonna see if that keeps it from sucking oil like it did. The EGR system cleaning really has the engine running smooth now.
AMD' I LOVE THESE TYPE OF VIDEOS!! Please, by all means, make more! AND DON'T LET NEGATIVE VIEWS DISCOURAGE U! Ur dedicated viewers KNOW u! This video was VERY interesting! U know, I hardly watch tv anymore.😂🤣 I like the "blade" trick! Thnx! I'd like to see one on head gaskets & how we can diagnose asap to avoid damage. Speaking of that, what do u think of an add-on temperature guage? They make thru radiator hose. I hate not having one. I value ur opinion. 👋👍
Hi! Thank you for watching! A temp gauge wouldn’t hurt. However it’s easier to get a small electronic one that uses the computer sensor like a scan gauge or something similar. Less intrusive.
@@TheCarCareNut Do you mean something that will plug into the under dash OSB port? Banks Engineering has several of these, they will read most computer monitored functions with actual numbers. There are small and you can mount them almost anywhere.
@@robertjaent6087 thank u for askn that. I lookd up guages & got confused. Im not tech educated/mechanically yes, tech no. If u see something, could u forward info to me? I saw one OBD thru walmart.🤔🙄 MY concern that OBD port? Then when u diagnose, u have to unplug. And so it reads temp thru computer? How, if u have no sensor. Im confused.
Rice burner Try Bluedriver they are great and sync via Bluetooth to your phone. If want a little more costly go with D8 scanner very affordable as I use one along with my other arsenals for my shop. Hope that helps.
We still have our two old Prius, our 2010 Prius burns lots of oil (common problem) so be sure to check yours. But now we have a P300, P301, P302 engine misfire, so it seems like i'll be trying your EGR valve trick here. We did buy a Tesla and after having it for over a year I must say it is clearly the future. I am never going back to Gas ever again, ever. It's soooooooooo much easier, almsot no maintenance and not millions of little headaches to chase and fail like ICE cars. Thanks for the video, will help squeeze a few more miles out of our Prius (until our next pre-ordered Tesla arrives)
When a mechanic can "see" doing repair in their mind even though they can't "see" the area he's further ahead than the mech who can't. Thanks for an excellent video.
I totally agree with you about always replacing a part. In a shop setting or doing work on the side, it never works out on my side to clean the part. I don't ever get come-backs when I replace the part. The initially client complains about the cost, but they always return to me again since that last issue they brought to me was fixed the first time. Thank you for doing these videos. I know they are time consuming. Thank you for sharing your knowledge and experience.
Intelligent, professional technician. Wish you lived in my neighbourhood. I have learned to repair my Toyotas because local mechanics don't like foreign and never have. Your experience, knowledge, and practicality trumps my trial by error every step of the way. Thanks
Great Video. I really enjoy learning how automotive professionals tackle diagnosis and repair. I'm not much of a DIY person except for very minor stuff (like adding the tire pressure dashboard reporting unit to the TPMS unit on my 2021 Rav4 Hybrid) but I always learn something new from your videos no matter what is being discussed. The electrical tape over a socket was a real "hidden gem" in this video. Keep up the good work and my best wishes for the continued success of your channel. PS. Please let your wife know that we appreciate her "behind the scenes" work as production manager. Your videos are always professional grade and "well polished". Regards, Ed
I use that same trick when replacing spark plugs in 2010? Corolla, it is near the firewall, blocking your tools and I did not have a plug socket with a rubber insert. I used the tape.
it would be nice to watch the video before going to Toyota. My 14 Prius had similar symptoms at 160000 miles when I took it to Toyota for diagnostics. The service advisor told me my Prius had an burn oil The repair cost was too expensive, even told me to balance the tire because they didn't know where the vibration was coming from.thank you so much to sharing this info
Knowledgeable professional, honest advisor but most important you are really a talented teacher. I wish my dealers/mechanics tell just half of the truth that you generously offer. Hats off buddy (if I may call you so) Cheers
Thank you sir! All of the negative post I have seen had me worried. When it comes time to do this I will follow your instructions and get new parts. I have a 2010 Prius. I actually love this car. I plan on trying to put 500, 000 miles on it. I had an ECHO that had 423,000 miles on it when a DEER TOOK IT OUT. Have a wonderful day! You are a great teacher!
I really appreciate these videos and the detailed explanations. I do like the DIY work but I really appreciate hearing the viewpoint from a dealer mechanic. If I found one like you I'd probably let the dealer do it more, but I've found my dealer has been sloppy and cut corners (they broke the cabin air filter cover and never replaced it; I know because the dealer performed all maintenance until I did the last one myself). I wish I would've had the "magnetic" socket trick a few days ago because that lower bolt was evil. Keep up the great work and thank you for educating me.
I'm dealing with this right now on my 2000 toyota camry 2.2l. I think it's the vacuum modulator. I heard that's a common problem with my car. Just had my head gasket replaced. Love your channel sir. GOD bless you and your family 🙂
I'm diy mostly on my 2014 ct200h Lexus, fancy prius lol. So when I found out about EGR issue i was thinking maybe beyond my skill level. but after watching some of your videos and other diy videos. i felt confident to work on and it really helped me so much. although i did not replace egr valve or intake manifold. I did a good cleaning of entire system, and replace most of the gaskets, the pcv, engine coolant. btw this was preventative work or maintenance not repairing. but thanks for providing these videos, very helpful.
I just cleaned my EGR pipe, valve, and manifold yesterday. it was a pain in the ass for me and seems to have worked for me for now, but watching you remove the valve without removing the exhaust port behind it baffles me completely. That shit it a pain in the ass removing the studs.
I agreed with what you said after I cleaned my egr awhile back. I regretted to open the egr and clean it up because I ran into leak air issues in the egr after I put it back in where you can hear the hissing sound when the engine warm up for awhile. Great tip btw
Thanks for the tip - homemade magnetic socket. I use a piece of paper towel which works 99% of the time but sometimes the whole shebang - both nut and paper towel falls so I'll try the electrical tape method the next time. P.S. I love your repair videos, lots of helpful tips and tricks.
I clean the throttle body along with the EGR valve every 30k miles. Lexus 2015 GX460. The EGR is typically more dirty then the throttle body in my experience. Much easier to clean then to shell out $$ for a new one from lack of cleaning.
Great vedio!!! I just replaced all 4 plugs and cylinders on.my 2010 prius. Now I can get to the real problem!!! Oh well I should have had my guy watch this vedio. I knew u would know how to fix it!!! GOD BLESS YOU!!! YOU ARE A GREAT BLESSINGS TO SO MANY!!!
Hey You are one of the best man and your video are the best !!! I had the EGR prblem in my 2011 Prius the Toyota diller clean the valve and the pipe noting work the ingin light still on After three week in the Toyota diller I come to take the car Pay for the work and parts and after a 4 kilometre the light ingin come again I still driving with that problem and nothing hapend I ingnor the orang light But listening to the motor or any change that will come Now after I saw your video I gone do the all work by my self I was impress from your expelning About it can never been clean for only for a few weeks or months I aleayes follow your best video!!! Keep going
Very well done! Great side instruction on the Technician's point of view on cleaning vs. replacing. Really liked the fast forward removal/replacements, that's a real time saver for the watcher.
Great video, thanks for sharing. I done mine including cooler cleaning, was really cooked, I only replaced the intake manifold gasket orange rubber, amd used the old metal once for anywhere else. I managed to clean the manifold, egr, cooler, pipe , and throttle body at the same time., didn’t replace the egr itself, all done at 139k miles, since then the car drives fine at 175k now. Plans are to clean again at around 200k miles together with all coolant as recommended. 👍✅
Another great video thank you. I take care of a 2010 Prius while the owner is away for 9 months I drive it every few days because in my experience you can’t let a hybrid sit very long because all those computers are monitoring the car still even when it’s off. The first couple of years I did this the 12 volt battery died I suspect from age and not getting enough run time to recharge on its own. I do more driving of the car now and it’s much happier. This video you made is so helpful and you’re description of the difference between a professional technician and a do it yourself person was well done 👍 and not offensive to me or I believe any DYI. I learned watching this video that the 2010 Prius I look after has this same problem I’m going to recommend to the owner that they have a dealer check this out and decide what to do Bless you for another very well done video Bravo 👏🏻
I followed the diagnostic process for the EGR you outlined and turns out the head gasket needed to be replaced. I had the dealer complete the head gasket job and now it is running well. I personally changed the EGR, Intake, EGR cooler, plugs, and coils. The dealer also attempted to swap my motor for a used motor which I declined because the replacement motor had 100K miles on it and I wasn't too comfortable about that, plus it was extremely expensive. Thanks
My 2013 Prius has almost 150k miles and doesn't burn any oil or experiencing any EGR related issues yet. Should I clean the manifold intake and EGR pipe as suggested by many on the Internet or leave it as is. The oil change been done at 4-5k miles since I bought it new. I'm planning to change the PCV for the second time soon. The car is still running great with 45-50 mpg. I guess don't fix it if it ain't broke. Let me know if I should have the pipe and manifold cleaned. Thanks.
I take my 98 Corolla to my local Toyota Dealer to do the jobs I can’t do as a home mechanic. Here in Australia just north of Brisbane. I used to shop around, but the independent mechanics were more expensive by a long way than the dealer. To be honest the customer service at the dealer is way better than the independents I have used in the past.
I love you're thorough guide into doing a proper DIY guide on a toyota car. This is how guide should've been teach on making a video guide. I cannot appreciate enough that you made this possible. Great Job! Keep up the great info guide. I have the 2013 toyota camry that I bought back in 2013 when they first came out new. This is my go to everyday in getting from point A to point B. This baby will be with me for the long hauled, very reliable car which are hard to find as long as you keep it well maintain.
Removed the intake manifold, the egr valve and egr cooler on my 2013 Prius the other day .. cooler was all plugged up and the valve had fairly heavy carbon built up around it. Had been occasionally idling rougher, consuming oil and lost fuel economy. If you are going to clean one of these coolers, I’ll forewarn you its a PITA, several hours with numerous cleaners/solvents and a stiff wire repeatedly working it through each of the 65 long narrow passages between flushing it out repeatedly 🙄. Luckily I already had the wiper cowl/frame assembly removed from having just replaced the ABS actuator and accumulator system … 🤔 maybe not so lucky 😆. I had to purchase a fancy bidirectional scanner with special functions to bleed the brake system afterwards but saved quite a bit of dough doing it all myself and wound up with a fun new toy thats needed for working on more modern vehicles. Anyway brakes work great again and the fuel economy is back! Also changed the plugs that where coated white, not sure if true but had heard that a plugged EGR will cause a lean condition making the engine run hot and I’d imagine do other damage over time … heard it also creates more negative manifold pressure that pulls oil into the intake through the PCV, did find oil in the manifold and the pcv line .. fehw .. need to change the oil so I don’t wind up with the infamous carboned up oil control ring issue on this car. Car has been some work but if I can keep the fuel economy over 50 without too much service I can’t complain.
Thanks for this video. I bring my Toyota to the dealer. Hope they know about these issues when they start occur. I had so many wrong diagnoses on cars. Spending thousands over a few years. Got sick of it and bought a dealer maintained Toyota Auris hybrid from 2014.. really hope they wont pull their hands off when it starts getting a little complex like my previous cars….
I also added a Catch Can when i did my EGR and intake clean - doing 9000km service intervals and does not burn a drop of oil in that period. 156000km on the odometer. Love my Prius
I love seeing repair videos. Please make more of it especially, the tip on how to diagnose the problem because that is actually the hardest part to find info on.... Thanks for sharing.
in 1991 I purchased a new Camry 4cyl. Right out of the gate it stumbled at a part throttle shift. I took it back with less than 100 miles. The dealership ran several full throttle test drives and determined there was nothing wrong. After having it for a month they installed a damper in the EGR vacuum line (TSB for the EGR stumble) and it offered no improvement. The car would run fine on heavy acceleration but under moderate acceleration it would stumble and downshift. I took it upon myself to test by blocking the vacuum line and it ran perfectly for the next 260,000 miles. It also burned oil from the first mile but that is another story. I was determined that I would never buy another Toyota product, but then in 2003, I test drove a Camry XLE against a Honda Accord. Unfortunately, this car had a steering problem (strut mount installed backward) that the dealer was unable to diagnose until months later when a Toyota troubleshooter responded with a TSB. Toyota has come a long, long way since 1991! I still have the 03 and it drives like the day it was new.
I did this cleaning to my 2015 persona series.It was a pain in the ass but I managed to clean it well and got rid of all the gunk.I also replaced my water pump,spark plugs,drain and refill the coolant from the inverter and radiator.Now it runs like a champ.Im on 120K right now🤙🏼
Have the exact car, any links to tutorials about how to get all those things done the right way? Also, did you do the update like AMD suggested? My Prius has 100,000, holding off till spring to get these things done.
I appreciate all of your videos. You cover more than anyone else ever can. I have a 2013 Prius plug in. I have 104,000 miles on it. I do not have any problems yet. I may have missed the answer to my question, in this video or any other videos of yours, which is; Are there ways to prevent all of these unusual engine problems that can occur only with the 3rd generation prius's ? Whether it's this EGR problem, head gasket problem or any other out of the ordinary problem that I can head off with some type of routine maintenance before they happen for this generation of prius? I do my normal oil change, plug change, use top tier gas, etc. that is required of any type of vehicle from the owner's manual. Any links to routine maintenance to prevent these unusual problems of the 3rd generation prius would be helpful. Or is there no way to prevent these unusual problems from occurring with the 3rd generation prius? Any answers would be appreciated by you or anyone else. Thank you again. Keep up the great work !!
MORE 3rd Gen Tundra, 3rd Gen Highlander, 2nd Gen Highlander!!! Yeah, I'm biased to the vehicles in my driveway :) Yes, There are plenty of us out here who want to see hands-on EXPERIENCED mechanics teaching us to CORRECTLY fix problems and perform maintenance.
I just watched this video and found it significantly better in all ways than other videos we have been watching to deal with our 2010 Prius. It had a head gasket failure about a year ago (major commotion during cold starts, etc. etc...) which was repaired by Gasket Masters (Manteca, CA; Walter is the man). He is well-known on YT and did a great job for a very reasonable charge. Since then we have had occasional rough starts and very poor gas mileage now in the low/mid 30s. Many pointed at the IMA battery as the culprit due to the high mileage of ~190K, but turned out to be in great health. Next suspect is the EGR valve/dirty throttle body/MAF sensor/intake manifold/.. :-( This is our young son's beloved car in college that he wanted to use in grad school next. He and I are about to dig in to either fix the car by cleaning 'everything' or screw up big time in the process! Two dealers commented that this is normal for an old car, so essentially don't bother them. After watching your video, I am less excited about removing the EGR coolant system (my apology if using wrong terms) as per other YT videos. Any advice for us? We will sincerely appreciate it.
Much respect, these eco-friendly cars have become so complex, and every little part is squeezed into a small space usually intended for easy assembly rather than easy maintenance. I am so glad when I used to do more than tinker with cars, sometimes maybe 3 full services in a weekend, you could almost climb inside the engine bay. No computer diagnosis, you had to know if a capacitor was going by the colour of the points spark etc. I could tune a branch manifold with 4 individual strombergs with a length of 1/2 inch pipe, and then put a flow meter on it and it was spot on. But man, the cockamamy stuff you dealing with. Almost stripping half the car to get at one piece. Sheesh.
Thanks for the nice presentation; a reminder that the Prius is not a DIY project car like the old 1995 Camry is. Cars will never get simpler as we go forward, so I hold on to my old Camry with white knuckles.
For someone that would do this DIY, do you think replacing the intake and egr valve is something that could be learned and done with the right tools on your own? And if so how would somebody who successfully replaced them do the software update? Is the software update something that has to be done every time these parts are disconnected?
Hey, I just want to chime in about my (seemingly) sucess with 2013 Lexus CT 200h. I had watched several other videos that more or less said "Clean the egr system and the cooler." I spent about 2 hours spraying all kinds of chemicals into the cooler, the same for the egr. Put it all back together and it ran *worse* in some ways. I didn't drive it anywhere, just had put it into maintenaince mode to begin burping the coolant system. Pre-cleaning of the egr, I was having cylinder 1 misfires. It was the worse on cold start ups, and would happen periodically while driving at lower speeds (15-35mph I'd say). Post-cleaning of the EGR, the engine was surging struggling to get enough air it seemed like. I took the advice of this video, bit the bullet and bought a new egr valve from Napa for about 270$ (they had a sitewide sale!). Installed it, and now the car runs normal again! Let it run for about 20 minutes while burping the system, took it out for a test drive and it ran wonderfully! (Though the temperature light did come on, we will see if that's because I left it running so long in maintenaince mode.) I'll be doing another round of burping in the morning, and then driving it around town to really verify everything is okay! Unfortunately, quite a few nuts and bolts were lost in the process 😅 But that's a simple problem to fix in the future! Thank you so much for your video! It gave me the confidence to go ahead and just drop the money and replace the egr. Bonus is it has a 3 year warranty! So if it fails I should get another one :D
The whole kit thing is a super pro tip. Thank you so much! The funny thing is I now wonder how often there are other "kits" available at a steep discount that we just don't know about! I personally tried to find the kit without the number to see if I could do it organically... and without the number I wasnt able to do it. but low and behold with the number it pops right up. In your experience is having these under the radar "kits" or deals available but hard to find common?
@@seaneby2489 Hi, yeah lemme check. first of all only place I could find it is the TSB which is what he indicated in the video. Number is EGR KIT:04004-58137 . that has the valve assy and 3 gaskets, there is a secondary part number as well which may be important, listed right under the kit. that is 25685-37010, the EGR cooler gasket.
I was a MDT for Toyota a few years back. I remember servicing prius before the tsb/warranty extension and finding all of the carbon in the intake. It was pretty shocking. I currently have two prius C and they both have pinging on acceleration. I am thinking it might be clogged egr issues. Its not misfiring and no dtc, but I am thinking it is early symptoms of it. Guess I got some wrenching to do!
Thank you! Another great video. I have not come across another automotive UA-cam channel with such clarity and quality information. I have been silently following all your videos and this one came in at a time I was researching this same issue. .
Thanks! I got the rough running at start just the other day, right before I was about to replace the EGR and Intake because of an intermittent code. I noticed some white smoke out of the tailpipe though, so I assumed head gasket. No noticeable coolant loss or mixing with oil though. Is white smoke always head gasket if car is warm?
My wife has this same 2010 Prius. First 100,000 miles not much maintenance but now over 100k I'm getting nervous about cleaning the EGR and all those pipes.
Some parts can be cleaned, just use the correct cleaner. The valve is a moving part, you might want to change. Also easiest to get to. For carbon, extra strength oven cleaner ingredients sodium hydroxide apply, wait 20 minutes, rinse. for sludge and varnish use stating fluid. 4 holes in the intake manifold will clog as well.
Don’t you wish we could really do it this fast. LOL. I wanted to comment on one of the things you mentioned about non-dealer technicians. I spend a lot of time working on Mercedes sprinters, but I also work on Chevrolet, Ford, Isuzu and Nissan. Let’s not forget I also have a Yale forklift I have to maintain. There is a lot to remember and know from one model to the other. I actually know more on the Mercedes Sprinter than our local dealership. You learn by trial and error many times. Great video as always. Well I gotta get back to wrenching!!!
Remember to read and complete ALL the Toyota Service Bulletin steps to the very last one. Skip none. Check them off as you go, & initial/date the hardcopy. Done.
Thanks for this. I have a 2010 Prius as well so I've been loosely following the EGR saga (mostly on PriusChat), but I barely drive (~90,000 km in 11 years) so it hasn't been an issue yet. For the EGR cooler, would have loved if you could have taken it out (probably too late for this car, but you may get another opportunity) to give us a closer look. My understanding (again, from the PriusChat threads) is that part of the concern and the focus on cleaning it is not just that the cooler is "dirty", but that it carbons up so much that it impedes the airflow.
Hi john! You can actually see when it’s carboned up. It does impede flow when it’s carboned up but when it’s now you still can’t see straight through it. Best way is to shine a light through and see if you can see some of the reflection through it
@@TheCarCareNut Thanks! I know you don't have any shortage of video ideas, but an overview of what to do (i.e. preventative maintenance) to keep these Gen3 Priuses on the road forever might be one. From what I've gathered so far, it's basically the suggested severe service schedule, plus cleaning the hybrid battery fan intake (or for the 2010, also getting the updated filter screen to keep the fan clean, thanks for that other video on those!) regularly, plus every ~125,000km/80,000 mi go in and clean/replace the EGR valve, cooler, and intake manifold. I've seen theories that this carboning up of the EGR/intake system is what later leads to the head gasket failures, and this should help keep the cars running for the half a million km that the Gen2s would get out of their engines. Is that the case, or is there still a risk of doing all this and still losing the engine prematurely, or is there anything else that wasn't in the original service schedule to add? Thanks again!
Thank you, had a rough start up one morning, the persist. Did the usually route because maintenance wasn’t perform. And will check when today when getting off work.
@@tm199100 I know people blank them off just like he did to test it like fitting a plate without a hole so that the exhaust gas cannot get to the intake. I would like to know more about the consequences technically and not legally.It could break certain environmental laws in some states.
@@doneB830 having a egr, improves fuel efficiency and lowers combustion chamber temps, for example. However, if you decided to bypass it, the car needs to be let known electronically that the egr has been deleted, otherwise it may not run properly as its taking the exhaust gases in consideration for air/fuel mixture
@@tm199100 thanks Toma’s so that’s why he said it could be damaging, I won’t do it but just interested, so in order to do it you need to blank it and reflash the mapping with an update to suit the change, well done. There are brilliant software writers out there and there are some dangerous ones. 👍👍
EGR, Direct Injection, i don't need all that with my 4ZZ-FE, i had big trouble with my idle when engine cold (misfires, coolant temperature sensor *ENGINE LIGHT PROBLEM*), unstable and shakes, i changed the intake manifold gasket, cleaned the MAF sensor, and now it's just perfect. (Corolla E11 from 11/1999).
This video is awesome. Glad I found it. Was doing the research and there is a LOT of information that is not always helpful. The explanations all made sense. THANK YOU
Not to mention if they pay you labor to try and clean an EGR valve and intake manifold you may as well replace them and be done with it. You won’t have to wonder if it works right.
I enjoyed seeing this just for the knowing. And I wish I'd known about the tape trick thirty or fourty years ago when I did my own work. Now I take it to the dealership and let the service department sort it all out. :-)
It would have been helpful to list or link the EGR TSBs for the hybrids. You pretty much described the shake my ‘12 XLE hybrid gets around 40mph. Now I’m mad at Lithia because they told me there’s no recalls or TSBs for my car.
Ya this is the type of video I like to see. You know the type of vehicle cause you work on them. How to diagnose, what to look for, tips and shortcuts along the way, updated new parts AND any different installation changes. Oh ya, that happens too! Software updates and of course the road test and what to expect during the drive. When I worked at the L.A. Dept of Water & Power we had lots of "F" Series Ford Trucks and I learned a lot! Mostly I delt with F150 through F550. So. Keep the diagnostic/repair videos coming! And if you're doing a diagnostic/repair and/or a TSB or a recall on a 2020 non hybrid RAV4, you'll DEFINITELY have my attention! Later this year I plan on doing coolant, transaxle fluid and brake fluid changes. Any tips or cautions on these will be much appreciated!
I wish I found this video 2 weeks ago when I cleaned my egr cooler. One of the messiest most time consuming job ever. 4 cans of brake cleaner, 3 coat hangers, 2 hours and nearly a divorce later I still only had maybe 60% of the fins cleaned out!
Well my 2010 Prius has this problem. Shop changed out no. 1 cylinder last week. Still have the problem. I was 1 1/2 hours away from home when I had the problem. Now what? Will they charged me another big bill and still NOT FIX MY CAR??? I want my machenic to watch your vedio and fix it!!! I trust you. Thanks so much and GOD BLESS YOU!!!
Thanks for this awesome walkthrough! I came across another way to diagnose the EGR system - simply disconnect the electrical connector that's on the EGR valve rather than block the flow. It will throw a code and the check engine light will come on, but if the juddering/hesitation with the engine stops - like your physical paint scraper method - then you know it's the EGR. Any reason not to do it that way so you don't have to take it apart? Thanks!
Thanks Zack. That does sound a lot easier. I wish the Car Care Nut had replied to give his thoughts on this. Could you reply with the web address (or link to another UA-cam video) that you came across that discusses the alternative 'trick' you describe to diagnose the problem? Also, did the check engine light go back off after you re-connected the electrical connector to the EGR valve, or does that have to be reset in some other way?
@@kenweston7604 Thanks Ken. It was on the Prius Chat forum if I recall, I'm not sure of the exact link. If you do some searching you should be able to find it. The check engine light did not go off after I reconnected it, I had to clear the codes with my ODB reader. But they did clear.
Hello, I watched many of your tutorial videos, this particular one is the most useful for me, I did the EGR cooler, EGR valve, PCV and the intake manifold upgrade on the 7/4 before this video uploaded, everything put back accordingly and run smooth and strong. My 2011 Prius currently passing 210k+ miles and never had the shake and misfire problem, I don't have oil consumption either, instead of cleaning I changed to new parts, all of the parts I order from McGeorge Toyota are the supersede parts. Now...I have a question after I watched this video and you mention that the ECM need to updated to new software, my Prius running fine and better do I need to update the software, I have the Techstream installed in my laptop can I do the software update myself, if soo...please show me where to get the correct patch file so that I can do the update at home myself. Thanks in advance for your attention this message.
Hi! If you have full techstream with the update capability then head over to techinfo.Toyota.com and get a couple day subscription and download the update file. There’s a TSB that will show you the process on how to do a download. You’ll need the higher grade subscription to be able to download software updates.
@@TheCarCareNut Hello, thank you for the quick response and useful information for the TIS site. I will definitely pay for the short term subscription. My Techstream software came with the cable I bought from eBay, is it possible to do the update with that? Thanks in advance.
I use: Superdegreaser from Meguiar's, a detailing brush and a power washer. Keep high pressure water away from sensitive areas, eg. master cylinder, high voltage wiring, inverter, etc.
Hi! As B me mentioned you can use a light degreaser and agitate everything with a brush then either use water to clean it off avoiding electrical connectors
Like the trick using tape n socket to hold nut. Nice to see repair from diagnostic to software upgrade. Clear and understandable & why to replace instead of trying to clean. What it fixed right the first time. Cheers 🇨🇦😎👍
Hi, loved the video. I work for a taxi firm and the Toyota Auris Hybrid is the most popular car for taxiing. We find the vibration problem is very common, usually starts when the car reaches 150,000 miles. Particularly interested in your diagnostic tip with the metal blade. Some of our drivers have had a metal plate fitted over the EGR but with a small hole in the plate to allow some air through. I personally took a different approach, getting a hydrogen engine clean to clear the carbon. Working so far. What is your view on hydrogen engine cleaning or Terracleaning the engine to clear the blockages?
It _shouldn't_ anyway. When it does the engine gets really ugly. I had a Ford F350SD work truck with the notorious 6.0L diesel. 12 miles from the pavement, in the soft sand (actually clay) of the Navajo reservation, the EGR jammed open. It would start and idle okay, but if I touched the throttle even lightly it would choke and die. Being a 4WD manual, I was able to feather the clutch and get it rolling, then actually pick up a gear so I could make it back to the road.
Not gonna lie I'm in the middle of a head gasket repair... I would highly recommend diy people to completely disassemble and clear the whole EGR cooler/valve and pipe leaving up to where it connects to the exhaust... Including removing the intake completely and cleaning out the EGR lines in the big black plastic intake housing.... Mine looked like it was full of black bacon grease... It barely let any air through.... All of the parts from the dealer would cost over $1000 to replace.... I cleaned it out with brake cleaner 2 years ago for $30 and it's been fine ever since... Mine had 250k at time of cleaning... We're at 300k now... No issue
Replacing it is the correct repair for the EGR. The newer part has an updated design. I tried cleaning EGRs to help save some money but I watched the older version being "lazy" switching from open to closed under load. This behavior went away when I replaced the valve with a brand new one. These parts do wear out.
At 194k, great to hear this
how did you torque the harmonic balancer bolt?
eBay has the EGR valve and cooler plus gaskets for $326.
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The best Toyota channel on the whole internet ❤
What a competent professional. Love the way he diagnoses and how scientific he goes about repairs. Amazing!!
That's what it's all about.
I know someone with an 09 corolla with this issue. Car would rough idle, stall at stop signs, and vibrate. They spent 2000 dollars trying to self diagnose, and local mechanics, just to find out after replacing everything from catalytic converter to a MAF sensor to spark plugs to intake manifold gasket to 02 sensors to fuel pump. Crazy that even the Toyota dealership didn't catch it.
I love to see you talking about older Yotas. My Scion xA is a 2005 and my Tacoma is an 04. I'm very glad you are not ashamed or afraid to express your Christian beliefs. I respect that greatly. Thanks again for another awesome video.
So all that 09 corolla needed was a new egr?
This is the proof of how wise he do his job: i am not a toyota owner, but i watch his videos.
Thank you for this most well done diagnosis and maintenance /replacement video. You are the best for Toyota (DIY) techniques. The dirtiest aspect of combustion can not be solved by "clean gasolines" or " EGR Cleaner in a bottle". Circulation of dirty exhaust gases requires periodic cleaning of the recirculation system.
Thanks for educating the Toyota DIY nation with this fine video.
Great to see a pro at work. I love the way you remove large items that are in the way just like that. I would probably spend half a day struggling with inadequate visibility. A pleasure to watch.
I just purchased a ct200h. Doing research about the car and hear a lot about bad head gasket, miss fires and egr valves. You put my mind at ease after watching. Great video.
It all depends on the year, doesn't it? It seems that versions after 2015 have received a number of modifications, segmentation, head gasket, egr valve, much more reliable supposedly, to be confirmed!
Amazing; I described these symptoms to the dealer, and was told to come back when it does it all the time... thanks for helping us all out with lazy diagnosis!
Having a third gen Prius myself, this one really got my attention! I had heard about the EGR cooler problem and didn't know what to do about it. I had not heard of the valve problem. I see the valve from the dealer is not much more than the Rockauto price, so if I have to replace it I will go with the Toyota kit from the TSB.
@user-jf7tj2pr4ftsb: L-SB-0015-16 for lexus ct200h (the pretty prius)
I just wanted to let you know how helpful this video was for me. I had this exact issue on my prius and thanks to this video I was able to diagnose the problem and remove the manifold to clean it. The problem is now fixed and the misfire is gone. Thank you!
I would just like to thank you for your informative video, my 2010 Prius was suffering from a very rough tick over, and not sure what the cause was, until I blocked of the EGR outlet like you did and the car went back to running normally.
Spoke to the local dealer for a price for the EGR valve and was quoted £300+ UK pounds, I had found the part number for the EGR kit you mentioned and they are £52 UK pounds, My car has been into my local dealer today to have the EGR kit fitted today and my car is now running great again, the local dealer wasn’t convinced on my (your) diagnosis of the problem as they have never supplied and fitted a new EGR valve to Prius.
I have got the old EGR valve off them and sure enough it is stuck open to the point I can’t push the valve back to the closed position. Thanks again for a great video.
Hi. Did you buy the EGR kit yourself and then take it to the Toyota dealer and they fitted it for you? How much did they charge to fit it? Thanks
@@ingalway Hi, This is in the UK, I ordered the EGR kit from my local Toyota dealer for £48 with discount, spoke to the service department and they agreed to fit the part I ordered for 2 hours labour, needed it done asap as my Prius is a taxi, I probably could of done it myself but would of taken a day to do it.
Although the EGR kit car care nut mentions in the video is covered by a USA technical service bulletin, the part is also available from a UK Toyota dealer when ordered by the part number.
@@alandavis6072 what is the part number in UK
@@alandavis6072how did you get the discount if you don’t mind me asking?
@@BadBoy-ts4fg was because i’m a taxi driver.
You have reminded me how powerful knowledge is. I love the no BS info and how you present it. I am also a mechanic for more years than I wish to admit and appreciate your efforts. I stumbled across your clips while deciding to take that leap and buy a RAV4 hybrid. Now I find myself ignoring my family while I watch a middle aged man show me a clogged EGR and manifold. You didn’t even need click bait! I hope others appreciate the valuable information you provide. I don’t get on the tools that much these days which worried me regarding what I will no longer get to learn. I guess I have gone the long way around to say thank you. Now this old fart has to click that subscribe button I guess.
Thank you for watching my brother!
Well this might be why my Nissan Altima vibrates in the steering wheel.
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Love this video! As a dealership mechanic, I get all the young "recently certified": techs to work with me for a few weeks. Most are so anxious to just start replacing parts when it's very obvious that it appears faulty. I tell them no, we are going to look at everything else related before we start replacing parts. They always ask "Why?". I tell them "How would you feel if you brought your $60K truck to the dealership with a problem and it wasn't fixed right the first time?" In my experience, and probably yours too, most would rather pay a bit more and wait a bit longer to have it done right the first time.
I hear you my brother! People pay top dollar for dealership service, it’s essential that they get top service at the very least.
Callbacks are demoralizing for everybody involved. Everybody ends up with some but the best end up with the fewest. I don't remember everything I fixed but I remember everything that came back on me. (Electronics, but same thing.)
@@TheCarCareNut Worse yet, customers don't blame the mechanic, they blame the dealership. In these days of on-line reviews that can be really bad.
@@flagmichael I've had a few in my 40+ years, but one still haunts to this day. I had a 2013 Ford Fusion Hybrid in the bay that would go into limp mode. The car only had 489 miles on it and the customer was very upset. The problem was intermittent so we only had a limited amount of time to diagnose when it acted up. We went thru every single hybrid part, module, pin connector and it would not yield it secret. After a little over a month, multiple Ford engineer visits, and a customer who threated legal action against the dealer the car was bought back under the lemon law.
@@gianmariavolonte4315 dang, so you guys never found the issue?
Did the EGR myself last week. 2012 Prius V with 123K. Absolutely needed the cooler off and soaked. Completely blocked with deposits to the point I had to fish fine wire through each of the small passages.
Also… found a huge pool of oil in the intake manifold below the throttle body. The PCV valve design looks like it has much to be desired. Replaced the valve and next oil change I’m going to reduce the amount of oil I put back into the crankcase from 4.4 to maybe 4.1 quarts. Gonna see if that keeps it from sucking oil like it did.
The EGR system cleaning really has the engine running smooth now.
AMD' I LOVE THESE TYPE OF VIDEOS!! Please, by all means, make more! AND DON'T LET NEGATIVE VIEWS DISCOURAGE U! Ur dedicated viewers KNOW u! This video was VERY interesting! U know, I hardly watch tv anymore.😂🤣 I like the "blade" trick! Thnx! I'd like to see one on head gaskets & how we can diagnose asap to avoid damage. Speaking of that, what do u think of an add-on temperature guage? They make thru radiator hose. I hate not having one. I value ur opinion. 👋👍
Hi! Thank you for watching! A temp gauge wouldn’t hurt. However it’s easier to get a small electronic one that uses the computer sensor like a scan gauge or something similar. Less intrusive.
@@TheCarCareNut Do you mean something that will plug into the under dash OSB port? Banks Engineering has several of these, they will read most computer monitored functions with actual numbers. There are small and you can mount them almost anywhere.
Yes something that plugs into the obd connector plenty of options out there to show you data
@@robertjaent6087 thank u for askn that. I lookd up guages & got confused. Im not tech educated/mechanically yes, tech no. If u see something, could u forward info to me? I saw one OBD thru walmart.🤔🙄 MY concern that OBD port? Then when u diagnose, u have to unplug. And so it reads temp thru computer? How, if u have no sensor. Im confused.
Rice burner Try Bluedriver they are great and sync via Bluetooth to your phone. If want a little more costly go with D8 scanner very affordable as I use one along with my other arsenals for my shop. Hope that helps.
We still have our two old Prius, our 2010 Prius burns lots of oil (common problem) so be sure to check yours. But now we have a P300, P301, P302 engine misfire, so it seems like i'll be trying your EGR valve trick here. We did buy a Tesla and after having it for over a year I must say it is clearly the future. I am never going back to Gas ever again, ever. It's soooooooooo much easier, almsot no maintenance and not millions of little headaches to chase and fail like ICE cars. Thanks for the video, will help squeeze a few more miles out of our Prius (until our next pre-ordered Tesla arrives)
When a mechanic can "see" doing repair in their mind even though they can't "see" the area he's further ahead than the mech who can't. Thanks for an excellent video.
I totally agree with you about always replacing a part. In a shop setting or doing work on the side, it never works out on my side to clean the part. I don't ever get come-backs when I replace the part. The initially client complains about the cost, but they always return to me again since that last issue they brought to me was fixed the first time.
Thank you for doing these videos. I know they are time consuming. Thank you for sharing your knowledge and experience.
Intelligent, professional technician. Wish you lived in my neighbourhood. I have learned to repair my Toyotas because local mechanics don't like foreign and never have. Your experience, knowledge, and practicality trumps my trial by error every step of the way. Thanks
Great Video. I really enjoy learning how automotive professionals tackle diagnosis and repair. I'm not much of a DIY person except for very minor stuff (like adding the tire pressure dashboard reporting unit to the TPMS unit on my 2021 Rav4 Hybrid) but I always learn something new from your videos no matter what is being discussed. The electrical tape over a socket was a real "hidden gem" in this video. Keep up the good work and my best wishes for the continued success of your channel. PS. Please let your wife know that we appreciate her "behind the scenes" work as production manager. Your videos are always professional grade and "well polished". Regards, Ed
Thank you Ed!
Should i clean the ger my 2015 prius has 51,000 miles on?
I use that same trick when replacing spark plugs in 2010? Corolla, it is near the firewall, blocking your tools and I did not have a plug socket with a rubber insert. I used the tape.
it would be nice to watch the video before going to Toyota. My 14 Prius had similar symptoms at 160000 miles when I took it to Toyota for diagnostics. The service advisor told me my Prius had an burn oil The repair cost was too expensive, even told me to balance the tire because they didn't know where the vibration was coming from.thank you so much to sharing this info
Knowledgeable professional, honest advisor but most important you are really a talented teacher. I wish my dealers/mechanics tell just half of the truth that you generously offer. Hats off buddy (if I may call you so)
Cheers
Thank you sir! All of the negative post I have seen had me worried. When it comes time to do this I will follow your instructions and get new parts. I have a 2010 Prius. I actually love this car. I plan on trying to put 500, 000 miles on it. I had an ECHO that had 423,000 miles on it when a DEER TOOK IT OUT. Have a wonderful day! You are a great teacher!
Did you ever clean or replace the egr valve ?
Priceless to see a Pro at work, AMD. I learned a lot and love my Car Care Nut T-shirt. Thank you so much , Lee
I ran into this problem once, replaced the egr and all was well for about 3 months. I am glad you push "do it right the first time".
What happened after 3 months ?
I really appreciate these videos and the detailed explanations. I do like the DIY work but I really appreciate hearing the viewpoint from a dealer mechanic. If I found one like you I'd probably let the dealer do it more, but I've found my dealer has been sloppy and cut corners (they broke the cabin air filter cover and never replaced it; I know because the dealer performed all maintenance until I did the last one myself). I wish I would've had the "magnetic" socket trick a few days ago because that lower bolt was evil. Keep up the great work and thank you for educating me.
I'm dealing with this right now on my 2000 toyota camry 2.2l. I think it's the vacuum modulator. I heard that's a common problem with my car. Just had my head gasket replaced. Love your channel sir. GOD bless you and your family 🙂
I'm diy mostly on my 2014 ct200h Lexus, fancy prius lol. So when I found out about EGR issue i was thinking maybe beyond my skill level. but after watching some of your videos and other diy videos. i felt confident to work on and it really helped me so much. although i did not replace egr valve or intake manifold. I did a good cleaning of entire system, and replace most of the gaskets, the pcv, engine coolant. btw this was preventative work or maintenance not repairing. but thanks for providing these videos, very helpful.
Did you go to the dealership for the TSB and update the EGR software? You cleaning it only fixed the symptoms, but not the cause of illness.
I just cleaned my EGR pipe, valve, and manifold yesterday. it was a pain in the ass for me and seems to have worked for me for now, but watching you remove the valve without removing the exhaust port behind it baffles me completely. That shit it a pain in the ass removing the studs.
I agreed with what you said after I cleaned my egr awhile back. I regretted to open the egr and clean it up because I ran into leak air issues in the egr after I put it back in where you can hear the hissing sound when the engine warm up for awhile. Great tip btw
I didnt get what this was referring to. Anyone care to explain?
Thanks for the tip - homemade magnetic socket. I use a piece of paper towel which works 99% of the time but sometimes the whole shebang - both nut and paper towel falls so I'll try the electrical tape method the next time. P.S. I love your repair videos, lots of helpful tips and tricks.
What up date? Do u really need it?
I clean the throttle body along with the EGR valve every 30k miles. Lexus 2015 GX460. The EGR is typically more dirty then the throttle body in my experience. Much easier to clean then to shell out $$ for a new one from lack of cleaning.
Great vedio!!! I just replaced all 4 plugs and cylinders on.my 2010 prius. Now I can get to the real problem!!! Oh well I should have had my guy watch this vedio. I knew u would know how to fix it!!! GOD BLESS YOU!!! YOU ARE A GREAT BLESSINGS TO SO MANY!!!
Great video, first time seen someone explain toyota hybrids Egr valve problem in depth. Thanks
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You are one of the best man and your video are the best !!!
I had the EGR prblem in my 2011 Prius the Toyota diller clean the valve and the pipe noting work the ingin light still on
After three week in the Toyota diller I come to take the car
Pay for the work and parts and after a 4 kilometre the light ingin come again
I still driving with that problem and nothing hapend
I ingnor the orang light
But listening to the motor or any change that will come
Now after I saw your video I gone do the all work by my self
I was impress from your expelning
About it can never been clean for only for a few weeks or months
I aleayes follow your best video!!! Keep going
Very well done! Great side instruction on the Technician's point of view on cleaning vs. replacing.
Really liked the fast forward removal/replacements, that's a real time saver for the watcher.
Immeasurable value and consolement offered, appreciated my guy. Kind of the Bob Ross of mechanics.
Great video, thanks for sharing. I done mine including cooler cleaning, was really cooked, I only replaced the intake manifold gasket orange rubber, amd used the old metal once for anywhere else. I managed to clean the manifold, egr, cooler, pipe , and throttle body at the same time., didn’t replace the egr itself, all done at 139k miles, since then the car drives fine at 175k now. Plans are to clean again at around 200k miles together with all coolant as recommended. 👍✅
Another great video thank you. I take care of a 2010 Prius while the owner is away for 9 months I drive it every few days because in my experience you can’t let a hybrid sit very long because all those computers are monitoring the car still even when it’s off. The first couple of years I did this the 12 volt battery died I suspect from age and not getting enough run time to recharge on its own. I do more driving of the car now and it’s much happier.
This video you made is so helpful and you’re description of the difference between a professional technician and a do it yourself person was well done 👍 and not offensive to me or I believe any DYI.
I learned watching this video that the 2010 Prius I look after has this same problem
I’m going to recommend to the owner that they have a dealer check this out and decide what to do
Bless you for another very well done video
Bravo 👏🏻
Elect tape on the socket, great tip!
I followed the diagnostic process for the EGR you outlined and turns out the head gasket needed to be replaced. I had the dealer complete the head gasket job and now it is running well. I personally changed the EGR, Intake, EGR cooler, plugs, and coils. The dealer also attempted to swap my motor for a used motor which I declined because the replacement motor had 100K miles on it and I wasn't too comfortable about that, plus it was extremely expensive. Thanks
Great-
-Attitude
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Your honesty is refreshing.
My 2013 Prius has almost 150k miles and doesn't burn any oil or experiencing any EGR related issues yet. Should I clean the manifold intake and EGR pipe as suggested by many on the Internet or leave it as is. The oil change been done at 4-5k miles since I bought it new. I'm planning to change the PCV for the second time soon. The car is still running great with 45-50 mpg. I guess don't fix it if it ain't broke. Let me know if I should have the pipe and manifold cleaned. Thanks.
Thanks for keeping real on the deal. It is a complicated system to troubleshoot, and you make simple. Good work
Great to see a Master Tradesman work and give tips on repairs...
I take my 98 Corolla to my local Toyota Dealer to do the jobs I can’t do as a home mechanic. Here in Australia just north of Brisbane. I used to shop around, but the independent mechanics were more expensive by a long way than the dealer. To be honest the customer service at the dealer is way better than the independents I have used in the past.
I love you're thorough guide into doing a proper DIY guide on a toyota car. This is how guide should've been teach on making a video guide. I cannot appreciate enough that you made this possible. Great Job! Keep up the great info guide. I have the 2013 toyota camry that I bought back in 2013 when they first came out new. This is my go to everyday in getting from point A to point B. This baby will be with me for the long hauled, very reliable car which are hard to find as long as you keep it well maintain.
Removed the intake manifold, the egr valve and egr cooler on my 2013 Prius the other day .. cooler was all plugged up and the valve had fairly heavy carbon built up around it. Had been occasionally idling rougher, consuming oil and lost fuel economy. If you are going to clean one of these coolers, I’ll forewarn you its a PITA, several hours with numerous cleaners/solvents and a stiff wire repeatedly working it through each of the 65 long narrow passages between flushing it out repeatedly 🙄. Luckily I already had the wiper cowl/frame assembly removed from having just replaced the ABS actuator and accumulator system … 🤔 maybe not so lucky 😆. I had to purchase a fancy bidirectional scanner with special functions to bleed the brake system afterwards but saved quite a bit of dough doing it all myself and wound up with a fun new toy thats needed for working on more modern vehicles. Anyway brakes work great again and the fuel economy is back! Also changed the plugs that where coated white, not sure if true but had heard that a plugged EGR will cause a lean condition making the engine run hot and I’d imagine do other damage over time … heard it also creates more negative manifold pressure that pulls oil into the intake through the PCV, did find oil in the manifold and the pcv line .. fehw .. need to change the oil so I don’t wind up with the infamous carboned up oil control ring issue on this car. Car has been some work but if I can keep the fuel economy over 50 without too much service I can’t complain.
Thanks for this video. I bring my Toyota to the dealer. Hope they know about these issues when they start occur. I had so many wrong diagnoses on cars. Spending thousands over a few years. Got sick of it and bought a dealer maintained Toyota Auris hybrid from 2014.. really hope they wont pull their hands off when it starts getting a little complex like my previous cars….
I also added a Catch Can when i did my EGR and intake clean - doing 9000km service intervals and does not burn a drop of oil in that period. 156000km on the odometer. Love my Prius
I love seeing repair videos. Please make more of it especially, the tip on how to diagnose the problem because that is actually the hardest part to find info on.... Thanks for sharing.
in 1991 I purchased a new Camry 4cyl. Right out of the gate it stumbled at a part throttle shift. I took it back with less than 100 miles. The dealership ran several full throttle test drives and determined there was nothing wrong. After having it for a month they installed a damper in the EGR vacuum line (TSB for the EGR stumble) and it offered no improvement. The car would run fine on heavy acceleration but under moderate acceleration it would stumble and downshift. I took it upon myself to test by blocking the vacuum line and it ran perfectly for the next 260,000 miles. It also burned oil from the first mile but that is another story. I was determined that I would never buy another Toyota product, but then in 2003, I test drove a Camry XLE against a Honda Accord. Unfortunately, this car had a steering problem (strut mount installed backward) that the dealer was unable to diagnose until months later when a Toyota troubleshooter responded with a TSB. Toyota has come a long, long way since 1991! I still have the 03 and it drives like the day it was new.
I did this cleaning to my 2015 persona series.It was a pain in the ass but I managed to clean it well and got rid of all the gunk.I also replaced my water pump,spark plugs,drain and refill the coolant from the inverter and radiator.Now it runs like a champ.Im on 120K right now🤙🏼
Have the exact car, any links to tutorials about how to get all those things done the right way? Also, did you do the update like AMD suggested? My Prius has 100,000, holding off till spring to get these things done.
I appreciate all of your videos. You cover more than anyone else ever can.
I have a 2013 Prius plug in. I have 104,000 miles on it. I do not have any problems yet.
I may have missed the answer to my question, in this video or any other videos of yours, which is;
Are there ways to prevent all of these unusual engine problems that can occur only with the 3rd generation prius's ? Whether it's this EGR problem, head gasket problem or any other out of the ordinary problem that I can head off with some type of routine maintenance before they happen for this generation of prius? I do my normal oil change, plug change, use top tier gas, etc. that is required of any type of vehicle from the owner's manual.
Any links to routine maintenance to prevent these unusual problems of the 3rd generation prius would be helpful.
Or is there no way to prevent these unusual problems from occurring with the 3rd generation prius?
Any answers would be appreciated by you or anyone else.
Thank you again. Keep up the great work !!
MORE 3rd Gen Tundra, 3rd Gen Highlander, 2nd Gen Highlander!!! Yeah, I'm biased to the vehicles in my driveway :) Yes, There are plenty of us out here who want to see hands-on EXPERIENCED mechanics teaching us to CORRECTLY fix problems and perform maintenance.
These are so entertaining and informative. The photography is first class. You are “A Professional Gentleman Mechanic”.
DIY magnetic socket! Love it!
I just watched this video and found it significantly better in all ways than other videos we have been watching to deal with our 2010 Prius. It had a head gasket failure about a year ago (major commotion during cold starts, etc. etc...) which was repaired by Gasket Masters (Manteca, CA; Walter is the man). He is well-known on YT and did a great job for a very reasonable charge. Since then we have had occasional rough starts and very poor gas mileage now in the low/mid 30s. Many pointed at the IMA battery as the culprit due to the high mileage of ~190K, but turned out to be in great health. Next suspect is the EGR valve/dirty throttle body/MAF sensor/intake manifold/.. :-( This is our young son's beloved car in college that he wanted to use in grad school next. He and I are about to dig in to either fix the car by cleaning 'everything' or screw up big time in the process! Two dealers commented that this is normal for an old car, so essentially don't bother them.
After watching your video, I am less excited about removing the EGR coolant system (my apology if using wrong terms) as per other YT videos. Any advice for us? We will sincerely appreciate it.
Much respect, these eco-friendly cars have become so complex, and every little part is squeezed into a small space usually intended for easy assembly rather than easy maintenance. I am so glad when I used to do more than tinker with cars, sometimes maybe 3 full services in a weekend, you could almost climb inside the engine bay. No computer diagnosis, you had to know if a capacitor was going by the colour of the points spark etc. I could tune a branch manifold with 4 individual strombergs with a length of 1/2 inch pipe, and then put a flow meter on it and it was spot on. But man, the cockamamy stuff you dealing with. Almost stripping half the car to get at one piece. Sheesh.
Thanks for the nice presentation; a reminder that the Prius is not a DIY project car like the old 1995 Camry is. Cars will never get simpler as we go forward, so I hold on to my old Camry with white knuckles.
For someone that would do this DIY, do you think replacing the intake and egr valve is something that could be learned and done with the right tools on your own? And if so how would somebody who successfully replaced them do the software update? Is the software update something that has to be done every time these parts are disconnected?
Hey, I just want to chime in about my (seemingly) sucess with 2013 Lexus CT 200h. I had watched several other videos that more or less said "Clean the egr system and the cooler." I spent about 2 hours spraying all kinds of chemicals into the cooler, the same for the egr. Put it all back together and it ran *worse* in some ways.
I didn't drive it anywhere, just had put it into maintenaince mode to begin burping the coolant system. Pre-cleaning of the egr, I was having cylinder 1 misfires. It was the worse on cold start ups, and would happen periodically while driving at lower speeds (15-35mph I'd say). Post-cleaning of the EGR, the engine was surging struggling to get enough air it seemed like.
I took the advice of this video, bit the bullet and bought a new egr valve from Napa for about 270$ (they had a sitewide sale!). Installed it, and now the car runs normal again! Let it run for about 20 minutes while burping the system, took it out for a test drive and it ran wonderfully! (Though the temperature light did come on, we will see if that's because I left it running so long in maintenaince mode.)
I'll be doing another round of burping in the morning, and then driving it around town to really verify everything is okay!
Unfortunately, quite a few nuts and bolts were lost in the process 😅 But that's a simple problem to fix in the future! Thank you so much for your video! It gave me the confidence to go ahead and just drop the money and replace the egr. Bonus is it has a 3 year warranty! So if it fails I should get another one :D
Does using intake valve cleaners in you gas tank prevent intake clogging?
Thank you for sharing your gift of repair with the world. Love your style and intelligence! God bless and keep you too!
The whole kit thing is a super pro tip. Thank you so much! The funny thing is I now wonder how often there are other "kits" available at a steep discount that we just don't know about! I personally tried to find the kit without the number to see if I could do it organically... and without the number I wasnt able to do it. but low and behold with the number it pops right up. In your experience is having these under the radar "kits" or deals available but hard to find common?
What’s the kit number ? The dealership acted like there was no kit
@@seaneby2489 Hi, yeah lemme check. first of all only place I could find it is the TSB which is what he indicated in the video. Number is EGR KIT:04004-58137 . that has the valve assy and 3 gaskets, there is a secondary part number as well which may be important, listed right under the kit. that is 25685-37010, the EGR cooler gasket.
This is the best Toyota repair channel on UA-cam!!
I was a MDT for Toyota a few years back. I remember servicing prius before the tsb/warranty extension and finding all of the carbon in the intake. It was pretty shocking. I currently have two prius C and they both have pinging on acceleration. I am thinking it might be clogged egr issues. Its not misfiring and no dtc, but I am thinking it is early symptoms of it. Guess I got some wrenching to do!
Thank you! Another great video. I have not come across another automotive UA-cam channel with such clarity and quality information. I have been silently following all your videos and this one came in at a time I was researching this same issue.
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Thanks! I got the rough running at start just the other day, right before I was about to replace the EGR and Intake because of an intermittent code. I noticed some white smoke out of the tailpipe though, so I assumed head gasket. No noticeable coolant loss or mixing with oil though. Is white smoke always head gasket if car is warm?
My wife has this same 2010 Prius. First 100,000 miles not much maintenance but now over 100k I'm getting nervous about cleaning the EGR and all those pipes.
Some parts can be cleaned, just use the correct cleaner. The valve is a moving part, you might want to change. Also easiest to get to.
For carbon, extra strength oven cleaner ingredients sodium hydroxide apply, wait 20 minutes, rinse. for sludge and varnish use stating fluid.
4 holes in the intake manifold will clog as well.
Don’t you wish we could really do it this fast. LOL. I wanted to comment on one of the things you mentioned about non-dealer technicians. I spend a lot of time working on Mercedes sprinters, but I also work on Chevrolet, Ford, Isuzu and Nissan. Let’s not forget I also have a Yale forklift I have to maintain. There is a lot to remember and know from one model to the other. I actually know more on the Mercedes Sprinter than our local dealership. You learn by trial and error many times. Great video as always. Well I gotta get back to wrenching!!!
Much respect to you my brother! Mastering multiple brands is difficult!
@@TheCarCareNut and I you, Always learning!!!
Remember to read and complete ALL the Toyota Service Bulletin steps to the very last one. Skip none. Check them off as you go, & initial/date the hardcopy. Done.
Great video! Saved money buying the kit instead of individual parts but unfortunately it also had a blown head gasket. All fixed now!
Thanks for this. I have a 2010 Prius as well so I've been loosely following the EGR saga (mostly on PriusChat), but I barely drive (~90,000 km in 11 years) so it hasn't been an issue yet.
For the EGR cooler, would have loved if you could have taken it out (probably too late for this car, but you may get another opportunity) to give us a closer look. My understanding (again, from the PriusChat threads) is that part of the concern and the focus on cleaning it is not just that the cooler is "dirty", but that it carbons up so much that it impedes the airflow.
Hi john! You can actually see when it’s carboned up. It does impede flow when it’s carboned up but when it’s now you still can’t see straight through it. Best way is to shine a light through and see if you can see some of the reflection through it
@@TheCarCareNut Thanks!
I know you don't have any shortage of video ideas, but an overview of what to do (i.e. preventative maintenance) to keep these Gen3 Priuses on the road forever might be one. From what I've gathered so far, it's basically the suggested severe service schedule, plus cleaning the hybrid battery fan intake (or for the 2010, also getting the updated filter screen to keep the fan clean, thanks for that other video on those!) regularly, plus every ~125,000km/80,000 mi go in and clean/replace the EGR valve, cooler, and intake manifold. I've seen theories that this carboning up of the EGR/intake system is what later leads to the head gasket failures, and this should help keep the cars running for the half a million km that the Gen2s would get out of their engines. Is that the case, or is there still a risk of doing all this and still losing the engine prematurely, or is there anything else that wasn't in the original service schedule to add? Thanks again!
@@Potato0t2 just wondering. Do you have still original battery in your Prius?
@@janjohnny4945 The original high voltage battery, yes; the original 12 V, no.
@@Potato0t2 thx. I asked anout high voltage battery. That's great. It lasts quite some time.
Thank you, had a rough start up one morning, the persist. Did the usually route because maintenance wasn’t perform. And will check when today when getting off work.
well.. from someone who has seen many intakes of modern diiesels, that one looks clean :D great tip about the socket!
Agree the diesels are something else I would like to know more about blocking the system, lawyers need not reply
@@doneB830 what do you mean by blocking the system ?
@@tm199100 I know people blank them off just like he did to test it like fitting a plate without a hole so that the exhaust gas cannot get to the intake. I would like to know more about the consequences technically and not legally.It could break certain environmental laws in some states.
@@doneB830 having a egr, improves fuel efficiency and lowers combustion chamber temps, for example. However, if you decided to bypass it, the car needs to be let known electronically that the egr has been deleted, otherwise it may not run properly as its taking the exhaust gases in consideration for air/fuel mixture
@@tm199100 thanks Toma’s so that’s why he said it could be damaging, I won’t do it but just interested, so in order to do it you need to blank it and reflash the mapping with an update to suit the change, well done. There are brilliant software writers out there and there are some dangerous ones. 👍👍
EGR, Direct Injection, i don't need all that with my 4ZZ-FE, i had big trouble with my idle when engine cold (misfires, coolant temperature sensor *ENGINE LIGHT PROBLEM*), unstable and shakes, i changed the intake manifold gasket, cleaned the MAF sensor, and now it's just perfect. (Corolla E11 from 11/1999).
Thanks a lot. Very informative video.
This video is awesome. Glad I found it. Was doing the research and there is a LOT of information that is not always helpful. The explanations all made sense. THANK YOU
Not to mention if they pay you labor to try and clean an EGR valve and intake manifold you may as well replace them and be done with it. You won’t have to wonder if it works right.
I enjoyed seeing this just for the knowing. And I wish I'd known about the tape trick thirty or fourty years ago when I did my own work. Now I take it to the dealership and let the service department sort it all out. :-)
It would have been helpful to list or link the EGR TSBs for the hybrids.
You pretty much described the shake my ‘12 XLE hybrid gets around 40mph.
Now I’m mad at Lithia because they told me there’s no recalls or TSBs for my car.
awww poor baby is mad should have done more research.
Ya this is the type of video I like to see. You know the type of vehicle cause you work on them. How to diagnose, what to look for, tips and shortcuts along the way, updated new parts AND any different installation changes. Oh ya, that happens too! Software updates and of course the road test and what to expect during the drive.
When I worked at the L.A. Dept of Water & Power we had lots of "F" Series Ford Trucks and I learned a lot! Mostly I delt with F150 through F550.
So. Keep the diagnostic/repair videos coming! And if you're doing a diagnostic/repair and/or a TSB or a recall on a 2020 non hybrid RAV4, you'll DEFINITELY have my attention!
Later this year I plan on doing coolant, transaxle fluid and brake fluid changes. Any tips or cautions on these will be much appreciated!
Does short trips without always getting to FOT exacerbate the EGR clogging?
Great video!
Hi! Yes that’s one of the things that accelerate it
I wish I found this video 2 weeks ago when I cleaned my egr cooler. One of the messiest most time consuming job ever. 4 cans of brake cleaner, 3 coat hangers, 2 hours and nearly a divorce later I still only had maybe 60% of the fins cleaned out!
Amazing video. Like always, learned a lot. Keep up the grand work Sir. Period
Well my 2010 Prius has this problem. Shop changed out no. 1 cylinder last week. Still have the problem. I was 1 1/2 hours away from home when I had the problem. Now what? Will they charged me another big bill and still NOT FIX MY CAR??? I want my machenic to watch your vedio and fix it!!! I trust you. Thanks so much and GOD BLESS YOU!!!
Thanks for this awesome walkthrough! I came across another way to diagnose the EGR system - simply disconnect the electrical connector that's on the EGR valve rather than block the flow. It will throw a code and the check engine light will come on, but if the juddering/hesitation with the engine stops - like your physical paint scraper method - then you know it's the EGR. Any reason not to do it that way so you don't have to take it apart? Thanks!
Thanks Zack. That does sound a lot easier. I wish the Car Care Nut had replied to give his thoughts on this. Could you reply with the web address (or link to another UA-cam video) that you came across that discusses the alternative 'trick' you describe to diagnose the problem? Also, did the check engine light go back off after you re-connected the electrical connector to the EGR valve, or does that have to be reset in some other way?
@@kenweston7604 Thanks Ken. It was on the Prius Chat forum if I recall, I'm not sure of the exact link. If you do some searching you should be able to find it. The check engine light did not go off after I reconnected it, I had to clear the codes with my ODB reader. But they did clear.
Your tape trick will help diy projects on cars and trucks for regular people , / going to try it myself
Hello, I watched many of your tutorial videos, this particular one is the most useful for me, I did the EGR cooler, EGR valve, PCV and the intake manifold upgrade on the 7/4 before this video uploaded, everything put back accordingly and run smooth and strong. My 2011 Prius currently passing 210k+ miles and never had the shake and misfire problem, I don't have oil consumption either, instead of cleaning I changed to new parts, all of the parts I order from McGeorge Toyota are the supersede parts. Now...I have a question after I watched this video and you mention that the ECM need to updated to new software, my Prius running fine and better do I need to update the software, I have the Techstream installed in my laptop can I do the software update myself, if soo...please show me where to get the correct patch file so that I can do the update at home myself. Thanks in advance for your attention this message.
Hi! If you have full techstream with the update capability then head over to techinfo.Toyota.com and get a couple day subscription and download the update file. There’s a TSB that will show you the process on how to do a download. You’ll need the higher grade subscription to be able to download software updates.
@@TheCarCareNut
Hello, thank you for the quick response and useful information for the TIS site. I will definitely pay for the short term subscription. My Techstream software came with the cable I bought from eBay, is it possible to do the update with that? Thanks in advance.
Honestly I would be on the cautious side with a clone cable. If it doesn’t work it could wipe out the computer permanently.
You're videos are great. It helps me get more knowledge in modern car diagnostics.
Hi AMD, What is the best way to keep the engine bay for any Toyota hybrid vehicle clean ? Can it be steam washed or power washed?
I use: Superdegreaser from Meguiar's, a detailing brush and a power washer. Keep high pressure water away from sensitive areas, eg. master cylinder, high voltage wiring, inverter, etc.
Hi! As B me mentioned you can use a light degreaser and agitate everything with a brush then either use water to clean it off avoiding electrical connectors
What is the kit egr part number?
04004-58137
Like the trick using tape n socket to hold nut. Nice to see repair from diagnostic to software upgrade. Clear and understandable & why to replace instead of trying to clean. What it fixed right the first time. Cheers 🇨🇦😎👍
Hi, loved the video. I work for a taxi firm and the Toyota Auris Hybrid is the most popular car for taxiing. We find the vibration problem is very common, usually starts when the car reaches 150,000 miles. Particularly interested in your diagnostic tip with the metal blade. Some of our drivers have had a metal plate fitted over the EGR but with a small hole in the plate to allow some air through. I personally took a different approach, getting a hydrogen engine clean to clear the carbon. Working so far. What is your view on hydrogen engine cleaning or Terracleaning the engine to clear the blockages?
Hi! Terraclean works but not as much for the EGR
Thanks, that's really good to know.
It is a great video for how to deal with it. Hope you don't get any trouble from your work.
EGR only works under light acceleration or acceleration does not open when engine is idling.
It _shouldn't_ anyway. When it does the engine gets really ugly.
I had a Ford F350SD work truck with the notorious 6.0L diesel. 12 miles from the pavement, in the soft sand (actually clay) of the Navajo reservation, the EGR jammed open. It would start and idle okay, but if I touched the throttle even lightly it would choke and die. Being a 4WD manual, I was able to feather the clutch and get it rolling, then actually pick up a gear so I could make it back to the road.
Only if it can close. Also a hybrid is rarely ever idling.
I just had my Head Gasket done. Mechanic said EGR was fine. Car runs great other than MG1 Stumbling AT low RPM.