Toyota EGR Diagnosis Tips and Repair Tips
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- Опубліковано 8 чер 2024
- A Toyota master diagnostic technician shares Toyota EGR diagnosis tips and repair tips for models equipped with the latest generation EGR ( Exhaust Gas Recirculation)
In this video I start a new segment in my channel on how professional mechanics approach diagnosis. The key aspect of any diagnosis and repairs start with the 3 Cs. Concern, Cause and Correction.
First we will look at the concern which in this 2010 Toyota Prius. The concern in this case is a vibration or shudder at low speed\low load when the gasoline engine is running.
I will show you how to isolate the EGR system temporarily to verify that it is indeed the cause of the problem with this Prius.
I'll also cover the differences between professional mechanic approach to repairs vs. DIY approach to repairs. The car being a customer car changes the approach. Most DIY mechanics will understand that some repair attempts on a budget might be short term or can have a nature of trial and error and are willing to deal with issues not getting resolved right away because they are not incurring labor charges.
However in the case of professional car repair customers pay mechanics full labor cost to fix the car right the first time. So the approach of diagnosis and repair recommendations can be different than DIY. Mechanics can't make decisions for customers, They can only recommend options and detail the outcome of each so the customer can make a decision.
In this video I'll show you the process of diagnosis and repair of this EGR system in this 2010 Prius. The owner opted to replace the EGR valve and the intake manifold. I also constantly see folks spending far too much time cleaning the ports, the cooler and the valve to a shiny finish but only to have them covered in soot minutes after starting the engine which is normal.
Along the way I will share some mechanic tips on general car repair like making your own magnetic socket.
Also last I will cover the part of this EGR repair that most DIY mechanics miss which actually resolves the problem with the EGR. Simply cleaning or replacing parts does not complete the repair unfortunately.
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0:00 Intro
0:49 The Concern
3:17 Diagnosis Tip
6:14 Professional VS. DIY repair
13:09 The Repair
18:50 Mechanic Tip
20:53 Software Update - Авто та транспорт
Not gonna lie I'm in the middle of a head gasket repair... I would highly recommend diy people to completely disassemble and clear the whole EGR cooler/valve and pipe leaving up to where it connects to the exhaust... Including removing the intake completely and cleaning out the EGR lines in the big black plastic intake housing.... Mine looked like it was full of black bacon grease... It barely let any air through.... All of the parts from the dealer would cost over $1000 to replace.... I cleaned it out with brake cleaner 2 years ago for $30 and it's been fine ever since... Mine had 250k at time of cleaning... We're at 300k now... No issue
Replacing it is the correct repair for the EGR. The newer part has an updated design. I tried cleaning EGRs to help save some money but I watched the older version being "lazy" switching from open to closed under load. This behavior went away when I replaced the valve with a brand new one. These parts do wear out.
At 194k, great to hear this
how did you torque the harmonic balancer bolt?
eBay has the EGR valve and cooler plus gaskets for $326.
@@jsixamorelink please?
What a competent professional. Love the way he diagnoses and how scientific he goes about repairs. Amazing!!
That's what it's all about.
AMD' I LOVE THESE TYPE OF VIDEOS!! Please, by all means, make more! AND DON'T LET NEGATIVE VIEWS DISCOURAGE U! Ur dedicated viewers KNOW u! This video was VERY interesting! U know, I hardly watch tv anymore.😂🤣 I like the "blade" trick! Thnx! I'd like to see one on head gaskets & how we can diagnose asap to avoid damage. Speaking of that, what do u think of an add-on temperature guage? They make thru radiator hose. I hate not having one. I value ur opinion. 👋👍
Hi! Thank you for watching! A temp gauge wouldn’t hurt. However it’s easier to get a small electronic one that uses the computer sensor like a scan gauge or something similar. Less intrusive.
@@TheCarCareNut Do you mean something that will plug into the under dash OSB port? Banks Engineering has several of these, they will read most computer monitored functions with actual numbers. There are small and you can mount them almost anywhere.
Yes something that plugs into the obd connector plenty of options out there to show you data
@@robertjaent6087 thank u for askn that. I lookd up guages & got confused. Im not tech educated/mechanically yes, tech no. If u see something, could u forward info to me? I saw one OBD thru walmart.🤔🙄 MY concern that OBD port? Then when u diagnose, u have to unplug. And so it reads temp thru computer? How, if u have no sensor. Im confused.
Rice burner Try Bluedriver they are great and sync via Bluetooth to your phone. If want a little more costly go with D8 scanner very affordable as I use one along with my other arsenals for my shop. Hope that helps.
You have reminded me how powerful knowledge is. I love the no BS info and how you present it. I am also a mechanic for more years than I wish to admit and appreciate your efforts. I stumbled across your clips while deciding to take that leap and buy a RAV4 hybrid. Now I find myself ignoring my family while I watch a middle aged man show me a clogged EGR and manifold. You didn’t even need click bait! I hope others appreciate the valuable information you provide. I don’t get on the tools that much these days which worried me regarding what I will no longer get to learn. I guess I have gone the long way around to say thank you. Now this old fart has to click that subscribe button I guess.
Thank you for watching my brother!
Well this might be why my Nissan Altima vibrates in the steering wheel.
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Great Video. I really enjoy learning how automotive professionals tackle diagnosis and repair. I'm not much of a DIY person except for very minor stuff (like adding the tire pressure dashboard reporting unit to the TPMS unit on my 2021 Rav4 Hybrid) but I always learn something new from your videos no matter what is being discussed. The electrical tape over a socket was a real "hidden gem" in this video. Keep up the good work and my best wishes for the continued success of your channel. PS. Please let your wife know that we appreciate her "behind the scenes" work as production manager. Your videos are always professional grade and "well polished". Regards, Ed
Thank you Ed!
Should i clean the ger my 2015 prius has 51,000 miles on?
I use that same trick when replacing spark plugs in 2010? Corolla, it is near the firewall, blocking your tools and I did not have a plug socket with a rubber insert. I used the tape.
Great to see a pro at work. I love the way you remove large items that are in the way just like that. I would probably spend half a day struggling with inadequate visibility. A pleasure to watch.
I really appreciate these videos and the detailed explanations. I do like the DIY work but I really appreciate hearing the viewpoint from a dealer mechanic. If I found one like you I'd probably let the dealer do it more, but I've found my dealer has been sloppy and cut corners (they broke the cabin air filter cover and never replaced it; I know because the dealer performed all maintenance until I did the last one myself). I wish I would've had the "magnetic" socket trick a few days ago because that lower bolt was evil. Keep up the great work and thank you for educating me.
Very well done! Great side instruction on the Technician's point of view on cleaning vs. replacing.
Really liked the fast forward removal/replacements, that's a real time saver for the watcher.
I just wanted to let you know how helpful this video was for me. I had this exact issue on my prius and thanks to this video I was able to diagnose the problem and remove the manifold to clean it. The problem is now fixed and the misfire is gone. Thank you!
Intelligent, professional technician. Wish you lived in my neighbourhood. I have learned to repair my Toyotas because local mechanics don't like foreign and never have. Your experience, knowledge, and practicality trumps my trial by error every step of the way. Thanks
Thank you! Another great video. I have not come across another automotive UA-cam channel with such clarity and quality information. I have been silently following all your videos and this one came in at a time I was researching this same issue.
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Priceless to see a Pro at work, AMD. I learned a lot and love my Car Care Nut T-shirt. Thank you so much , Lee
Amazing; I described these symptoms to the dealer, and was told to come back when it does it all the time... thanks for helping us all out with lazy diagnosis!
I love seeing repair videos. Please make more of it especially, the tip on how to diagnose the problem because that is actually the hardest part to find info on.... Thanks for sharing.
I just purchased a ct200h. Doing research about the car and hear a lot about bad head gasket, miss fires and egr valves. You put my mind at ease after watching. Great video.
It all depends on the year, doesn't it? It seems that versions after 2015 have received a number of modifications, segmentation, head gasket, egr valve, much more reliable supposedly, to be confirmed!
Knowledgeable professional, honest advisor but most important you are really a talented teacher. I wish my dealers/mechanics tell just half of the truth that you generously offer. Hats off buddy (if I may call you so)
Cheers
Did the EGR myself last week. 2012 Prius V with 123K. Absolutely needed the cooler off and soaked. Completely blocked with deposits to the point I had to fish fine wire through each of the small passages.
Also… found a huge pool of oil in the intake manifold below the throttle body. The PCV valve design looks like it has much to be desired. Replaced the valve and next oil change I’m going to reduce the amount of oil I put back into the crankcase from 4.4 to maybe 4.1 quarts. Gonna see if that keeps it from sucking oil like it did.
The EGR system cleaning really has the engine running smooth now.
I love you're thorough guide into doing a proper DIY guide on a toyota car. This is how guide should've been teach on making a video guide. I cannot appreciate enough that you made this possible. Great Job! Keep up the great info guide. I have the 2013 toyota camry that I bought back in 2013 when they first came out new. This is my go to everyday in getting from point A to point B. This baby will be with me for the long hauled, very reliable car which are hard to find as long as you keep it well maintain.
When a mechanic can "see" doing repair in their mind even though they can't "see" the area he's further ahead than the mech who can't. Thanks for an excellent video.
Thank you for sharing your gift of repair with the world. Love your style and intelligence! God bless and keep you too!
This video is awesome. Glad I found it. Was doing the research and there is a LOT of information that is not always helpful. The explanations all made sense. THANK YOU
I totally agree with you about always replacing a part. In a shop setting or doing work on the side, it never works out on my side to clean the part. I don't ever get come-backs when I replace the part. The initially client complains about the cost, but they always return to me again since that last issue they brought to me was fixed the first time.
Thank you for doing these videos. I know they are time consuming. Thank you for sharing your knowledge and experience.
Thank you sir! All of the negative post I have seen had me worried. When it comes time to do this I will follow your instructions and get new parts. I have a 2010 Prius. I actually love this car. I plan on trying to put 500, 000 miles on it. I had an ECHO that had 423,000 miles on it when a DEER TOOK IT OUT. Have a wonderful day! You are a great teacher!
I know someone with an 09 corolla with this issue. Car would rough idle, stall at stop signs, and vibrate. They spent 2000 dollars trying to self diagnose, and local mechanics, just to find out after replacing everything from catalytic converter to a MAF sensor to spark plugs to intake manifold gasket to 02 sensors to fuel pump. Crazy that even the Toyota dealership didn't catch it.
I love to see you talking about older Yotas. My Scion xA is a 2005 and my Tacoma is an 04. I'm very glad you are not ashamed or afraid to express your Christian beliefs. I respect that greatly. Thanks again for another awesome video.
Thank you for your time and knowledge, I have watched all of your videos and find them very simple and educational.
I would just like to thank you for your informative video, my 2010 Prius was suffering from a very rough tick over, and not sure what the cause was, until I blocked of the EGR outlet like you did and the car went back to running normally.
Spoke to the local dealer for a price for the EGR valve and was quoted £300+ UK pounds, I had found the part number for the EGR kit you mentioned and they are £52 UK pounds, My car has been into my local dealer today to have the EGR kit fitted today and my car is now running great again, the local dealer wasn’t convinced on my (your) diagnosis of the problem as they have never supplied and fitted a new EGR valve to Prius.
I have got the old EGR valve off them and sure enough it is stuck open to the point I can’t push the valve back to the closed position. Thanks again for a great video.
Hi. Did you buy the EGR kit yourself and then take it to the Toyota dealer and they fitted it for you? How much did they charge to fit it? Thanks
@@ingalway Hi, This is in the UK, I ordered the EGR kit from my local Toyota dealer for £48 with discount, spoke to the service department and they agreed to fit the part I ordered for 2 hours labour, needed it done asap as my Prius is a taxi, I probably could of done it myself but would of taken a day to do it.
Although the EGR kit car care nut mentions in the video is covered by a USA technical service bulletin, the part is also available from a UK Toyota dealer when ordered by the part number.
@@alandavis6072 what is the part number in UK
@@alandavis6072how did you get the discount if you don’t mind me asking?
@@BadBoy-ts4fg was because i’m a taxi driver.
Immeasurable value and consolement offered, appreciated my guy. Kind of the Bob Ross of mechanics.
Having a third gen Prius myself, this one really got my attention! I had heard about the EGR cooler problem and didn't know what to do about it. I had not heard of the valve problem. I see the valve from the dealer is not much more than the Rockauto price, so if I have to replace it I will go with the Toyota kit from the TSB.
What’s the tsb number
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You are one of the best man and your video are the best !!!
I had the EGR prblem in my 2011 Prius the Toyota diller clean the valve and the pipe noting work the ingin light still on
After three week in the Toyota diller I come to take the car
Pay for the work and parts and after a 4 kilometre the light ingin come again
I still driving with that problem and nothing hapend
I ingnor the orang light
But listening to the motor or any change that will come
Now after I saw your video I gone do the all work by my self
I was impress from your expelning
About it can never been clean for only for a few weeks or months
I aleayes follow your best video!!! Keep going
Another great video thank you. I take care of a 2010 Prius while the owner is away for 9 months I drive it every few days because in my experience you can’t let a hybrid sit very long because all those computers are monitoring the car still even when it’s off. The first couple of years I did this the 12 volt battery died I suspect from age and not getting enough run time to recharge on its own. I do more driving of the car now and it’s much happier.
This video you made is so helpful and you’re description of the difference between a professional technician and a do it yourself person was well done 👍 and not offensive to me or I believe any DYI.
I learned watching this video that the 2010 Prius I look after has this same problem
I’m going to recommend to the owner that they have a dealer check this out and decide what to do
Bless you for another very well done video
Bravo 👏🏻
Great to see a Master Tradesman work and give tips on repairs...
Great vedio!!! I just replaced all 4 plugs and cylinders on.my 2010 prius. Now I can get to the real problem!!! Oh well I should have had my guy watch this vedio. I knew u would know how to fix it!!! GOD BLESS YOU!!! YOU ARE A GREAT BLESSINGS TO SO MANY!!!
Elect tape on the socket, great tip!
Thanks for the tip - homemade magnetic socket. I use a piece of paper towel which works 99% of the time but sometimes the whole shebang - both nut and paper towel falls so I'll try the electrical tape method the next time. P.S. I love your repair videos, lots of helpful tips and tricks.
What up date? Do u really need it?
Thank you for this most well done diagnosis and maintenance /replacement video. You are the best for Toyota (DIY) techniques. The dirtiest aspect of combustion can not be solved by "clean gasolines" or " EGR Cleaner in a bottle". Circulation of dirty exhaust gases requires periodic cleaning of the recirculation system.
Thanks for educating the Toyota DIY nation with this fine video.
These are so entertaining and informative. The photography is first class. You are “A Professional Gentleman Mechanic”.
This is the best Toyota repair channel on UA-cam!!
This video is extremely clear. Please keep this quality up, its great.
We still have our two old Prius, our 2010 Prius burns lots of oil (common problem) so be sure to check yours. But now we have a P300, P301, P302 engine misfire, so it seems like i'll be trying your EGR valve trick here. We did buy a Tesla and after having it for over a year I must say it is clearly the future. I am never going back to Gas ever again, ever. It's soooooooooo much easier, almsot no maintenance and not millions of little headaches to chase and fail like ICE cars. Thanks for the video, will help squeeze a few more miles out of our Prius (until our next pre-ordered Tesla arrives)
You're videos are great. It helps me get more knowledge in modern car diagnostics.
Your honesty is refreshing.
Best mechanic advices on UA-cam.
Great video, thanks for sharing. I done mine including cooler cleaning, was really cooked, I only replaced the intake manifold gasket orange rubber, amd used the old metal once for anywhere else. I managed to clean the manifold, egr, cooler, pipe , and throttle body at the same time., didn’t replace the egr itself, all done at 139k miles, since then the car drives fine at 175k now. Plans are to clean again at around 200k miles together with all coolant as recommended. 👍✅
Love this video! As a dealership mechanic, I get all the young "recently certified": techs to work with me for a few weeks. Most are so anxious to just start replacing parts when it's very obvious that it appears faulty. I tell them no, we are going to look at everything else related before we start replacing parts. They always ask "Why?". I tell them "How would you feel if you brought your $60K truck to the dealership with a problem and it wasn't fixed right the first time?" In my experience, and probably yours too, most would rather pay a bit more and wait a bit longer to have it done right the first time.
I hear you my brother! People pay top dollar for dealership service, it’s essential that they get top service at the very least.
Callbacks are demoralizing for everybody involved. Everybody ends up with some but the best end up with the fewest. I don't remember everything I fixed but I remember everything that came back on me. (Electronics, but same thing.)
@@TheCarCareNut Worse yet, customers don't blame the mechanic, they blame the dealership. In these days of on-line reviews that can be really bad.
@@flagmichael I've had a few in my 40+ years, but one still haunts to this day. I had a 2013 Ford Fusion Hybrid in the bay that would go into limp mode. The car only had 489 miles on it and the customer was very upset. The problem was intermittent so we only had a limited amount of time to diagnose when it acted up. We went thru every single hybrid part, module, pin connector and it would not yield it secret. After a little over a month, multiple Ford engineer visits, and a customer who threated legal action against the dealer the car was bought back under the lemon law.
@@gianmariavolonte4315 dang, so you guys never found the issue?
i would hope every repair man would be like you!! you rock!!
Great video. Keep them coming.
I always enjoy learning new things and you are a great teacher.
This guy is awesome! Great presentational style, great tips, great honesty, great video!
There was so much detal information going on that I had to watch it twice, and parts 4 times! Thanks for this very important Prius video!!!
Great video. I love how you break your videos up into parts.
This is the proof of how wise he do his job: i am not a toyota owner, but i watch his videos.
I agreed with what you said after I cleaned my egr awhile back. I regretted to open the egr and clean it up because I ran into leak air issues in the egr after I put it back in where you can hear the hissing sound when the engine warm up for awhile. Great tip btw
I didnt get what this was referring to. Anyone care to explain?
it would be nice to watch the video before going to Toyota. My 14 Prius had similar symptoms at 160000 miles when I took it to Toyota for diagnostics. The service advisor told me my Prius had an burn oil The repair cost was too expensive, even told me to balance the tire because they didn't know where the vibration was coming from.thank you so much to sharing this info
Great video! I just discovered your channel and also enjoyed the video on changing the spark plugs. You come across as very genuine and knowledgeable for sure. 😊
Thanks for keeping real on the deal. It is a complicated system to troubleshoot, and you make simple. Good work
So I can add “EGR work” to the list of things I get my Yota technicians to tend to!! Great video!!
Excellent hands-on version and great little tips. Keep it up.
I learned a lot from you.. i always follow your videos as you n your knowledge shows you are always unique
DIY magnetic socket! Love it!
Thank your for helping all of us clueless DIY'ers
Enjoyed the video but keep doing your regular videos as well. I enjoy the information provided in those videos. Thank you!
Thanks for the help! Straight to it. No BS. Really appreciate it!!!
Great video and I too enjoy these hands on repair videos. Thanks for the electrical tape trick with the socket.👍
It is a great video for how to deal with it. Hope you don't get any trouble from your work.
Great video, first time seen someone explain toyota hybrids Egr valve problem in depth. Thanks
I'm diy mostly on my 2014 ct200h Lexus, fancy prius lol. So when I found out about EGR issue i was thinking maybe beyond my skill level. but after watching some of your videos and other diy videos. i felt confident to work on and it really helped me so much. although i did not replace egr valve or intake manifold. I did a good cleaning of entire system, and replace most of the gaskets, the pcv, engine coolant. btw this was preventative work or maintenance not repairing. but thanks for providing these videos, very helpful.
Did you go to the dealership for the TSB and update the EGR software? You cleaning it only fixed the symptoms, but not the cause of illness.
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-dynamite advice!
I ran into this problem once, replaced the egr and all was well for about 3 months. I am glad you push "do it right the first time".
What happened after 3 months ?
Great Video! Please keep doing more diag videos and any R&R tips and tricks to speed up the repair process.
Thanks brother for the video. Your ways to find the broplm is perfect. Good job, really Appreciate for sharing to us. We need machine like yourself to fix our cars.
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Great!, as all your videos. This video help me to understand the work of a profesional mechanic in an official Toyota workshop.
Be blessed. Your videos are very very very educative. Kudos.
Just a wonderful video. I am addicted to your channel. Thank you sir.
Amazing video. Like always, learned a lot. Keep up the grand work Sir. Period
Very good information and procedure explanations. Many thanks!
Thank you from queensland Australia 💯💯💯love your shows..
Very simple exploitation, thank you👍
Thank goodness I found your channel.
Love your diagnosis and conclusion. Thanks I appreciate.
Thanks a lot. Very informative video.
Love these kind of vids. Thanks!
thanks
this information is brilliant and there's a huge positive impact for professionals like us
I like the way this guy work
Thanks for sharing your knowledge.
My 2013 Prius has almost 150k miles and doesn't burn any oil or experiencing any EGR related issues yet. Should I clean the manifold intake and EGR pipe as suggested by many on the Internet or leave it as is. The oil change been done at 4-5k miles since I bought it new. I'm planning to change the PCV for the second time soon. The car is still running great with 45-50 mpg. I guess don't fix it if it ain't broke. Let me know if I should have the pipe and manifold cleaned. Thanks.
Great video! Saved money buying the kit instead of individual parts but unfortunately it also had a blown head gasket. All fixed now!
Another great Video
I wish I had a great mechanic like you around
I followed the diagnostic process for the EGR you outlined and turns out the head gasket needed to be replaced. I had the dealer complete the head gasket job and now it is running well. I personally changed the EGR, Intake, EGR cooler, plugs, and coils. The dealer also attempted to swap my motor for a used motor which I declined because the replacement motor had 100K miles on it and I wasn't too comfortable about that, plus it was extremely expensive. Thanks
Thank you, had a rough start up one morning, the persist. Did the usually route because maintenance wasn’t perform. And will check when today when getting off work.
Amazing video, you deserve a lot more subcribers.
Sweet! Thanks for covering EGR
Best video ever! Thanks for posting!
Like the trick using tape n socket to hold nut. Nice to see repair from diagnostic to software upgrade. Clear and understandable & why to replace instead of trying to clean. What it fixed right the first time. Cheers 🇨🇦😎👍
Thanks! Was looking for a way to trouble shoot problem. Love the putty knife!!
Always great information.
great video....thanks!! instructive, clear, and entertaining as well.
For someone that would do this DIY, do you think replacing the intake and egr valve is something that could be learned and done with the right tools on your own? And if so how would somebody who successfully replaced them do the software update? Is the software update something that has to be done every time these parts are disconnected?
This was very helpful. Thank you
excellent info, very clear, thank you! ( 2012 Prius V 190K)
Great explanation! Also great presentation.
Always great video 👏👏👏
Great job and video like always