What are the do’s and don’ts during a termination conversation?
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- Опубліковано 2 жов 2024
- When terminating an employee, it’s important to know how to set up and conduct the conversation. Get tips on holding a confident and considerate conversation to help both parties achieve a positive outcome.
Speakers:
Tim Wohlgemut, Entrepreneur
Mike Amos, Former Founder and CEO, Empathica Inc.
Joanne Thomsen, VP of Talent, MaRS Discovery District
This is an example of how sleazy lawyers give advice to sleazy bosses on how to be sleazy.
Yea when he’s talking about signing the full release and getting legal counsel before you fire them because he knows that a lot of the time a termination merits a lawsuit by the former employee
It sounds like sound, compassionate advice to me. As a business owner or manager you have to always keep the legal side of things in mind as to not open yourself or your business up to litigation.
Why do you feel this video is sleezy? What would you change to make it not sleezy?
@@riggs20 I understand your point of view on the problem. I've had problems with my boss for more than 10 years. You don't want a conflict and then he hires a company to help him remove me away and make it look legal, that's why I say sleezy because they advise him how to do it. Now we are in court. He tried through false witnesses to remove me through written warnings, but he has one problem that he still doesn't know about. I recorded it all.He changed the company policy. I didn't want to sign it. We had a discussion and he said, you know, I have to protect myself. I said of course, but not in an illegal way. The best way to protect yourself is to do everything according to the law.
@@rashabelgrade sorry to hear that. It sounds like a nightmare.
@@riggs20 It's not a problem that he behaves like that, the problem for me is to stay calm. The problem for me is that the state took away my right to solve my own problems with its laws and at the same time does nothing about it. Laws exist but it's as if they don't exist. Simply selective are applied.
I might be terminated because I wasn’t on next month’s schedule, but the new employee they hired was. I will simply respond by saying, thank you for the opportunity for the short period of time. Sorry, my service wasn’t approved by your toxic manager. Good day. Then smile and walk away.
I was terminated today (Friday, like always) over the phone
Yup don’t terminate an employee on a Friday!l Just happened to me and no outside support was provided. Felt hung out to dry. Companies always have lawyers and HR to protect their rights but nobody will protect your own but you!
Unfortunately, the people firing you don’t show this much compassion shown in the video, because the reasons they are firing you (not always) is because they are a toxic. Employers don’t care at all whom they are firing as they usually have the replacement already lined up. Underhanded and sly tactics seem like the norm in most workplaces back by HR who are solely there to protect the employer and never the employee.
I got fired on a Friday while grocery shopping. I’ve also been fired on a Friday while working out. Each time, my employer called me and told me not to come back. I was previously fired years ago on a Friday in the office… it was a forced resignation.
good one
You get fired a lot.
Their attitude and the tone reminds me of a line from GoT - "It always seems a bit abstract, doesn't it, other people dying?"
I got fired today guys I'm only 15 and they were being dicks and not letting me say my side of what happened even tho I wasn't in the wrong
Shit happens 19 laid off due to supervisor fault
15? Did you even get fired from a real job or was this like a public swimming pool concession stand?
This is the lawyer for an employer, and it’s not that he’s wrong in what he’s saying, but don’t ever signed that release because they almost all would never contain the full severance you’re entitled to, and any lawyer would tell you that.
I SHOWED MY BOSS HER PLACE WHEN I GOT TERMINATED ALL OF A SUDDEN AND THAT WAS NOT BECAUSE OF MY CONDUCT BUT BECAUSE SHE FELT I DONT FIT IN BLA BLA...
I’ve heard this recently as well…. “Well, you might not be a good fit”. Honestly, I’m surprised I’m still employed
My last Boss should see this
I was terminated right after my FMLA.
I learned a lot of lessons in life. Here is one of them. It's better to be in control of a situation, not at the mercy of it. I have a full-time and a part-time job. If the full-time employer fires me, I will ask the part-time employer for full-time status. I also have multiple sources of income. As you can see, I am not at the mercy of anybody. Most people are at the mercy of their employers. Some people do crazy things when they are fired or laid off. I heard this one guy call up his employer and made a bomb threat. Another time a woman was told she was fired and fainted. Employers don't care about their employees. All they care about is making a profit and protecting their reputation.
This video is a repress of what docs the employees and the HR are. The fact that they mention that “they prepared it it and you did not”. It’s like they mean to terminate people when they are non prepared for it.
I got fired when a worker sent a picture from my phone using his gentile part but it wad not mine
I always conduct a *MMM* or *3Ms* _Monday Managers Meeting_ to discuss the business plan and who’s getting terminated.
I’m not opposed to terminating someone over the phone but I rather do it in person with at least another manager present.
I had to terminate someone over the phone because it involved a serious life threatening situation with another employee and I couldn’t allowed the individual to come back to work after their day off.
I know My employees feel Mondays are like walking on eggshells because they know Mondays is the day someone is going to be fired.
I make it easier for everyone involved because it gives them time to work on a plan and it starts our week fresh. Tuesdays is our entire staff meeting and I rather discuss any new plans and sales tactics with the staff that are employed.
I’m worried I’m on the chopping block at work and will be blindsided by termination soon. This video gave me some hope that maybe my boss won’t be as petty as I imagine...
Wait a minute.... this video is for bosses who value practicing professionalism...
nevermind I’m still worried
*sigh*
At some places I have worked, if they offered me six months of severance pay I’d happily accept the termination.
This is very helpful - thank you so much.
This is helpful thank you mars
I was part of a larger termination effort by my retail 1:50 company. They got everyone who was being terminated on a conference call all at once and told us our positions were eliminated . They read a prepared statement that was scripted and the man doing it didn’t even look directly at the camera. They weren’t going to enact the layoffs form over a month and nobody from home office was in the store to ensure security . Not the wisest move. I am temporarily on my feet , but the followed none of the guidelines set forth in this video .
Guess what? Most employers absolutely don’t care about giving you a kiss before they ream you out, much less take you out to dinner first.
EXACTLY
1:25 how ... would THEY STILL BE RESPOSIBLE,if they're let go, it's done. No more obligations. No matter how cold it is.
I had the same thought... pretty f'ed up if you were liable for someone's car accident because you made them sad. Does that apply to relationship break ups too? What about bullying? etc.
Lawyers will sue over anything.
@@riggs20 this is the answer. It’s not about whether the lawsuit has merit, it’s about whether or not someone will try to sue you. Lawsuits are extremely expensive, time, consuming, and stressful. This is true, even if it ends up getting dropped. Best avoided altogether.
victory 😊😊
It’s called break up Fridays for a reason
Support unions, and if one is available to you then join it, and go to meetings. Buried in these expert guidelines is the lopsided Right to Work law, which in reality is a golden benefit to employers, like money in the bank. Again, unionize, because exploitation is bad, even if its agents are dressed nicely and speak softly.
Funny, because I was fired on a Friday once
Hell, I was fired the day before Christmas 🤣
Really since when any usa business or court cares? Then you people dare complain north Korean do to their own people.
Conversation? Don't have a conversation. As soon as they utter the words your fired - say nothing and leave. Your not obligated to answer questions or sign anything. Don't waste your time - move on.
If I gave u respect. Don't think I'm going 2 give u 2week notice. Because u would give it to me. It's business. My time is valuable
My thing will be im right their wrong , itll be a blessing in disguise 🥸😂🎉