ULTIMATE Acheron Guide! Best builds, debuffers, light cones, relics, and teams! Honkai Star Rail
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- Опубліковано 8 чер 2024
- Acheron is an incredibly powerful dps character in Honkai Star Rail version 2.1! I present everything I know about her and go into more detail than usual hence why this video is so long.
0:00 | Overview and Content
1:37 | Acheron's Kit
9:01 | Petal Generation
16:24 | Stats and Relics
20:47 | Light Cones
25:41 | Eidolons
26:33 | Teams
30:38 | Flowchart
34:18 | Pros and Cons
#honkaistarrail #hsr #acheron - Ігри
Black Swan evidently works a bit differently on live than on the media server / CES. Currently on live she adds a petal when new mobs spawn (not the initial mobs at the start of a wave, just when new ones are summoned).
For example, when the Giant Office Scanner Robot summons 2 goldfish and they both get Arcana, it will give Acheron 1 petal since it counts as a single action from the Scanner Robot.
what about Asta ???
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I just started the game and got her at 10 what do i do?
I dont have any items for her
@@Autumn_Dragnz u can buy some materials from the shop, u get access for the other ones u need.
But I don't recommend buying them, just rush through the story till u get to penacony, where u finally can kill the monsters u need to kill.
@@Autumn_Dragnz hsr has this feature where for any character's banner period, if you still haven't unlocked the crimson calyx domains for their materials, you will gain temporary access to them until their banner period ends. Just use those to grind for their leveling/upgrading mats. You can find them via clicking on any trace > any mats needed > it'll show where to get them. Just click on the one that leads to a related crimson calyx & the game will lead you to them.
For LCs & relics, just use any you have atm. They'll do for any character in early game.
I have to say that flowchart was amazing in terms of deciding whether to pull.
it didn’t help me much. i pulled on acheron anyway. i am doing just fine. and i have no regrets. 😁
@@skyhart9926 Thanks to her being so good I pulled on LC banner and got her signature + Bronya's signature in 1 ten pull. So yeah, I have no regrets on pulling for her, now I can wait till Sparkle's rerun without worrying about new DPS characters 😊
I didn't expect "in the name of the world" to be that bad compared to the other light cones. Sure it may not be the best. But it increases damage dealt to debuffed enemies (her entire schtick)
Can anyone explain why that's the case?
I hope all Acheron wanters become Acheron havers but I managed to get 3 copies of Gallagher without blowing my 50/50 on her which was my goal. It’s a good honkai day for pulls
omg ur so lucky i wish i could do this but i have a guarantee so i can't even try for gallagher 😭
I was hoping to get 5 copies of Gallagher before I got her but I fell 2 short. Still though I'm glad I had my Fire MC built because she's a monster in this team for petal generation
I got no gallagher, but won 50/50
@@ic6k You can get Gallagher for free in the upcoming event if you choose him in the 4 star character selector.
His E1 and E2 are superb, though @@GothicPunk007
Good luck on the pulls everyone
Thank you
we will overcome that 50/50 ratio and get Acheron!🗣️🔥
Ty and you two. I won 50 50 on her banner, but lost on the LC unfortunately.
@@dohalimilqarasdeldemenanci8483dang. At least we got a some free wishes! 🎉hopefully you’re blessed with it soon!
I don't need luck when I make 6 digits every year!!!
I like the additional info you added for this video, I personally love infodumps esp for characters in this game. It's why I love your content! Great balance of infodumping + engagement from your personality. Much love and good luck to everyone in their pulls 💙
Thank you very much for the guide! Answering the question in the video - personally, the more cals/data you include, the better!
This was really helpful, thanks. Heaps of info i hadnt heard before in various other content
Dat flowchart is 1000/10. Love it! Please include it in your future character guides
I watched every major UA-camr's Acheron guide (because this character's variables are a little hard for me to grasp) and yours felt the most understandable and the most realistic. The flowchart was bang on too. Thanks!
Great video. I specially liked the flowchart
It is obvious that a lot of effort was put into making this guide. Thank you for that.
SPD boost + glamoth in E2S1 Acheron, for faster petals generation by Acheron herself since she can applies 3 per her turn dat way, pair up sparkle with her, and I think 2 ult first turn is possible
Update: I got her E2S1
Update 2: after some thorough testing, Atk boots still indeed work best. I don't have sparkle, so I pair it with bronya, trend Fuxuan, and sweaty pela instead. Another thing I found is that if u can achieve good CR without the takiya, salsotto actually did give a better number(need more input, cause my salsotto has better subs)
SPD boost or soeed boots? If you pair with sparkle, any character doesnt need speed
@@hulahupjingga gud point... Also excuse my slight typo
atk is better bro, trust me with the team in the video, u will use her ult even before her turn
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Even at e0s1 her best team is a sparkle team from my testing. Then bronya.
Always love to see your extremely thorough guide!!
I personally love the additional info added through these charts. It helped clear things up alot and even made me rethink about how to think about using acheron to her fullest potential. Great vid.
This was a fantastic video that's very well researched and informative. Thank you for all the extra work and effort you put in so that we could know the percent differences with investment and team examples.
Seeing her do well with Black Swan and Kafka sealed the deal on E0S1. I was worried about needing to build an entire new team for her, but turns out I already had some decent team mates for her. I'm totally down to pull more characters for her in the future, and I have Pela with a couple eidolons now. No Sweaty LC though at all, so that's rough. Hoping for a new debuffer for her instead of chasing after that, because I don't really like Pela's vibe (or height). The only thing I'm struggling with is MOC higher levels and pure fiction, so I think her potential is a good investment for the future. Finally, her design is freakin awesome, every Raiden/Mei is, of course I'm getting her and her LC.
Sorry I'm new to this game but what does the S stand for E0S1?
@@pocky7489Superimposition, in this case how many copies of their signature light cone you have
@deliro8758 thank you 👏
Even without pela/sweaty, she's gonna nuke most content fairly easily. One thing that some people forget with black swan specifically is that while it's not nearly as strong as pelas, she does in fact also shred defense. Which is usually more than enough to one shot most trash waves and seriously dent elite waves.
And, with black swans e1, she shreds lightning defense, which stacks together with her base defense shred.
Acheron is literally the embodiment of nihility and IXs concept of nothingness.
This is basically what people think of when they hear the name Raiden Mei.
@@pocky7489in this case the 1 means 1 copy of her sig lc.
E1 on the hand means two copies of acheron herself, the 2nd copy unlocked her 1st eidolon perk.
Always come here before I decide to pull! Thanks for the great guide.
I can't with the 'Sweaty Pela' xD Great vid, very useful!
It is a very useful and deep guide, thank you for your work!
Love those charts! Great job
This was extremely detailed thank you!
Excellent breakdown as always.
Great video on Acheron. Gave me hope on team comps.
saving this vid. very direct and no unnecessary yapping lmao. rlly liked the flowchart part!
and yeah you're right abt her getting her ult so fast. i have pela + bs but my fu xuan has no market lc but i still get acheron's ult so fast. she's so fun to play im glad i pulled for her and her lc < 3
i started the game a week ago and got acheron near pity and her light cone with the first 10 pull. i had a team of shushang, bronya, march 7 and dan heng or herta which was mid AF most of the time. now with her i run her with gallagher guinaifen and pela, mostly thanks to your reccomendations and tips and have been having so much fun and success with it.
i got ar 26 so i dont have her 2 nihility teammates passive yet, but i can easily pull off at least one ultimate every 2 rounds starting from 0 petals! my go-to info channel for both genshin and now star rail! thanks for good content
Thanks for this guide bro. Earned my subscription :)
Love the flow chart as a visual aid. Such a good idea
I really love your flowchart man, please keep making them in the future!
The addition of the gameplay after the examples is great in my opinion. Good stuffs 🗿👍
This is the most comprehensive and understandable guide I've watched on Acheron, thank you. It seems other Honkai content creators just read from a script, not understanding what exactly they're saying just so they can be "the first" to post.
Wow its sure lot of hard work, thank you, best guide and i like how u simplified everything xD, also ur voice is good!
Additional note for petal generation... Breaking weaknesses also count as a debuff. (Fire - Burn, Wind - Wind Shear, Lightning - Shock, Physical - Bleed, Ice - Freeze, Quantum - Entanglement, Imaginary - Ensnared.) Also, if you're running Fu Xuan in your Pela, SW, Acheron team... spam her E to accumulate ult charges for faster and stronger weakness breaks if quantum weakened... (it only takes 2-3 E skills to fill up her ult when her E is active) ...since this team is very SP positive because of Pela and SW not needing to use their E all the time. This works best when there's more than one quantum weak enemy, like those mara struck guards or the IPC captain that summons guards.
love the flowchart, thank you!
Thanks for the in depth guide
This is an incredible guide!
This chart at the end was the single best thing to inform the decision to pull for her
I want to say thanks to Razor for his short and informative explanations
I actually opened this video to decide wether or not I will pull for her. I'm also interested in optimizing my characters. So the flowchart at the end + the detailed guide was really helpful. And yes, I will pull for her =)
Assuming the information is correct this video is far better than the other guides on YT available. Better explanation, better layout, good flowchart.
Got her with a guaranteed and decided to use the rest of the wishes to go for her lc and got it early. Also immediately maxed her out when I got her🎉I love her design so much
This is actually one of the best guides out there, and I've probably seen most of them from the go-to HSR CC's. Incredible job, IW2L. The ONLY complaint I have (and it's a small one) - is the pushing of the 174+ speed Pela while showcasing your 180 spd Pela. lol. Not attainable from 99.99% of HSR players out there. Genuinely. 😅 I can think of one other CC out there that pushes 174+ spd supports, and I enjoyed the Gachasmack roast that came after that. Again - incredible job. Probably THE best Acheron guide video made out there.
Same thoughts. Like why are we suggesting a Pela with incredibly lucky substats? lmao
Very nice guide. Super informative.
i dont have kafka, silver wolf or black swan because I lost them all on my 50/50s and I am still gonna get her and make it work.
Loving this flowchart thing, hoping you can bring this again in the future 🎉
Goated guides as always IWTL!!
Amazing guide, many thanks
This guide is a masterpiece👏👏👏
Got it 36 pity wad planning to go for luocha but just few summons in acheron banner she came home
the flowchart is very smart!!!! i like that it really helps decide if i need it for my account
im currently running e0s1 ach with sweaty pela, market gepard and a decently fast ruan mei and the team feels so good, great gameplay loop
The best video, thank you!
This is why I watched IWTL Gaming. Very detailed explanation with calculations without sugar coating the cons. The flow touch is an amazing touch. Keep up the good work IWinToLose Gaming!
I very much appreciate this transparent and informative video, though it brings up the Question if this media server and infos from it in the end was worth it when the char is still quite different in the live version. Accept that we know which mats to farm (if we dont google it before) and maybe which Relic Set (if its even out by then), its is still likely to be changed and for reliable and good infos we have to wait till the char is live. Ofc i know it might change in the future but so far those media server infos are nothing more then many leaker videos show. I also understand that certain CC will probably get 2 times the amount of views so good for them but for us users i dont see anything really usefull from that media server atm.
Omg the flowchart was awesome!
The flowchart really helped!!
Awesome guide!!
Got her quite early so I also managed to snatch the 4* Nihility light cone from her banner on S4. Happy happy happy
More data = better, charts are a bit confusing at first but way better imo so thank you ! I love having more data to get more out of my chars
infodump is excellent. Thought for a moment that future impact was a play on honkai impact:space version haha. A bit long so I watched at 1.25 xD The flowchart was very handy but I got confused by the S1 rombus until I saw the icons for lightcones
I loved that intro. It was so accurate
Him mentioning her meeting Zoro from the both of them being lost just made my day lmao
That was an almost 40 min guide. Just. 10/10.
Hsr: spend a week reading guides,spend 2 minutes watching how the game plays itself on auto 😂
5:07 2400 SAVED ENERGY HOLLYY--
thats the private server footage
That’s what my account is at currently lol is it that bad😔
@@Clicky01 yeah but still, don't they need to farm relic there ?
@@tiasm919yeah but its better to farm for talents, bc relics it's all about luck, as you can get good relics with only 240 energy as you can get nothing spending 2000+ energy (me)
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may not be always but if luocha breaks the enemy bar with the ultimate or basic attack (being this weak to imaginary damage) also generates 1 petal
Your videos butter My biscuits thank you
I pulled for E0 then decided to go for LC after this vid... and got it in 22 pulls. Insane luck today. And I do happen to have all the right LC for MC and Pela! Acheron account ready to be built up
Heya IWTL, nice video just wanted to add is there a reason at 27:02 you mention 172 speed? I thought for a 3 turn in 1 cycle its 160?
I got her twice in one 10 pull so now I'm legally obligated to build her as my main dps beside IL
triple nihility mommies won me over to get acheron
i wasn't planning on getting her, though i was very tempted by how cool she is, yet i didn't think she'd fit into my teams, but the fact she works well with kafka, BS and fire mc (those are basically my mains), is just perfect
Great guide 💯
Hey nice content.
But I wanna ask something.
If I dont have BS, KAFKA, and SPARKLE, is it worth to E2-ing her?
Lose her to clara. Then lose another one on her LC to clara LC 😂
They really want you to main Clara at this point 😅😂🥲💪🏼🍀😭
I think the game is trying to tell you something lol
That was me with sparkle
Just main Clara at this point lol
Imagine losing you 75% on LC habaha
Currently e0s1 Archeron with the team Pela e6, Fu Xuan e1 and Sparkle e2. She ults for double the damage with my Fu Xuan than with my e6 Gallagher, or Gepard/Trail Blazer with fire debuff LC. And Fu Xuan is SP positive. Did some test runs where Archeron does over 400k dmg with ult together with Fu Xuan, the rest of them are around 150k to 200k. It's a massive difference.
I got her and her light cone, she's gonna be amazing, I just know it
Acheron is a very strong well-rounded character.
But require specific setup which not friendly for new players.
That setup is not that hard to make tbh. But on a fresh account, yeah.
set up isn't that bad, trial showcased pretty well, but yeah you unfriendly because the LC
And so is nearly every DPS in the game. Kafka and Ratio are the most F2P friendly by far.
@@felipebraga5159 Isnt jingliu and danil too?
@@felipebraga5159 Jingliu is very friendly imo. Even tho you would want Bronya, you can get her with the standard banner guarantee too.
Is there any good substitute for Pela's LC? I also have Guinaifen but she needs that one specific LC that's only available from 1.1 from what I heard.
will you make Galahgher guide ? ty for the vids btw great as always ^^
Question! If u have E6 Acheron isnt then better to use the Insert Salsotto as a 2 Piece ? Because her E and Autohit are also ult dmg :o
Amazing guide. Just got acharon e0 i have both kafka, black swan, and silverwolf e0 plus pela e6 and ghallager e1.
But ill hold for her signsture lightcone as im saving for jinglue too. But i should be able to put a great team together thanks to your chart.😊😊 thank u so much
Honestly you have bs+kafka for one team and ancheron for the other.
I'd just full invest in acheron while you can and that's coming from someone with s1 jingliu.
Can only justify in chasing e2 for acheron and skipping Jing unfortunately.
Just got her and she's a perfect replacement for my current lightning dps Serval 😏.
Just got my ps5 and started 3 days ago, got himeko my 1st starter 10 pull. And acheron 30 pulls in so this'll help a lot for planning my pulls.
I pulled for the lightcone and her e2 making speed boots better since the petal that you whould get from the 2nd nihility teamate is on her turn so i think that if youre pulling for her e2 and her lc spd boots is mandatory to make her work if you dont have speedboots she never ults
I really didn't plan on getting her only Gallagher, but she came home at 20 pity, guess im really lucky.
Happy Anniversary HSR🎉🎉❤
Himeko generates a pedal by doing whatever she does(bc of applying burn trace) follow ups, q/e, burst, breaks, with some amount of ehr(of which i had minimal) everything procced pedals. I noticed that in pure fiction when i thought acherons breaking enemies could be useful for himeko since all the enemies had weaknessess to fire and lightning. with the pure fiction burst buff, my himeko(er rope), acheron(traces lvl 6, i got her yesterday, quantum set) , kafka(with sweaty lc, er rope), blade team and bad relics i managed to get 30k for the second half. the first half though was worse with 20k. i think if i were more clever with speed or energy regen stuff i could have done better but the synergy between it all felt unexplored.
If i have E2S1 acheron, will 2 other nihility still work best? Or should i add another harmony? If yes, who's harmony character can be a good options?
I accidentally got her while trying to get gallagher and now im here because I have to build her. I wanted boothill more as well so now im on my 50/50 for him…
Hey so, i got extra lucky and got two of her LC un a doble legendary multi and now in wondering whether is worth getting it to S2 o using it into another character. Any advice?
keep on using flowcharts pls. It definitely helps the organization and thoughts in choices of us viewers.
I got two along the passing shore light cones on my last 10 roll, should I keep them separate or superimpose?
Also worth to mention is Ruan Mei ult, With ult active and then basic atk, RM can apply Thanatoplum Rebloom debuff that can increase Slashed Dream's count. So for 3 Nihility mommies. I'd like to slap Ruan Mei (yeah more mommy too into full mommy team!) as she would buff the other two nihility as well provide some pseudo sustain with her delay.
Got mine, good luck for everyone!
Personally have an E6S5 Acheron and she is hands down the best the character I have pulled for...such a blast to play with. Decimates everthing..
Do i pull for silver wolf or black swan in the future? I want to know which of the two is generally better than the other for acheron.
Will S1 still be needed if you have E2? I have her signature LC and her E1 as of right now
Quick question: Luocha can dispel buffs on enemy via his ultimate. Is dispelling buffs equal to applying debuffs on enemies? Or are those two cases different?
No it doesn’t count as a debuff
I have trend, gepard, black swan, silver wolf, and pela with resolution. At first I don't want her but it seemed like an opportunity.
Luckily I got her and won the 50/50 and I also got her LC too and won the 75/25. Took me to soft pity both but I am happy.
I've got a nice built Welt, you think i can use him with Pela and Fu Xuan/MC Fire?
The flowchart was really good, and improvement would be adding teams without trend of the universal market.
I’m curious about the 0-cycle teams. What does 0-cycle mean? And it seems you don’t need the preservation light cone to do them. Are they still good?
I really hope you do the "Versus" battles like you did in genshin.
Like a "E0-E2 Archeon vs Jing" showcase. Including the most f2p options for both teams.