ACHERON GUIDE: INCREDIBLE DPS! BUT EXPENSIVE. Best Builds & Gameplay Showcase in Honkai: Star Rail
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- Опубліковано 5 сер 2024
- Everything I (currently) know about Acheron in one video! Optimal light cones, traces, eidolons, relics, team comp explanations and more. Enjoy~
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0:00 | Intro
1:01 | How to Play / Abilities
7:51 | Eidolons
10:56 | Best Light Cones
14:19 | Is She F2P Friendly
17:31 | Best Relics & Stats
19:50 | Recommended Acheron Stats
20:58 | Best Team Synergies [IMPORTANT]
30:07 | Closing Thoughts
Outro: Valence - Infinite (NCS Release)
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PLEASE READ! UPDATED WITH RELEVANT COMMENTS
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THIS GUIDE WAS MADE USING THE CREATOR SERVER, which means there's a possibility of slight changes on her full release
LET ME KNOW IN THE COMMENTS IF ANYTHING IS NOT UP TO DATE! i will include them here :)
HOPE YOU ENJOY, ACHERON IS SICK!
- FTB with TREND is a great F2P option
- SPEED boots great if NO Sparkle/Bronya OR she gains more stacks herself (SIG LC / E2)
- ATK ORB is GOOD ALTERNATIVE (because A6 gives 90% dmg bonus)
- WELT SUSTAIN is fine teammate option
- GLASS CANNON COMP (no sustain) is good IF you play it properly. dont let the enemies get turns :)
- PEARLS OF SWEAT is GREAT LC for ANY nihility teammate; i placed emphasis on PELA because 4 STAR and she has built in DEF REDUCTION
When aventurine 🥺
I've been seeing a lot of people say atk orb is better for her. Is dmg orb just outright better for her or is it close enough to go down to subs?
@@fadedmogli5179 Atk% edges out slightly due to the amount of DMG% she has baked in her kit. But the difference is small enough that you'll just be comparing between substats.
Don't forget that you can use food in SU if you have the last part of the ability tree unlocked so...
Correction on Fermata
It increases ALL types of damage to enemies with a Shock or Wind Shear dot on them INCLUDING all DOT damage types
Wording could be more clear but everyone always misreads this one. It's actually a decent 4star alternative if you put Kafka and/or black swan/sampo on your team so the damage bonus is always active
And break effect is actually relevant if you run Ruan Mei in the team comp
good video mr xlice have a nice trip!!
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@@TheyCallMeDiobro wtf
17:55 Acheron inflicted all-type res down when you use her ult so the mentioned effect will be active
Tbh ppl treat it like ruan mei buff its so anoing xD
@@kitsuchii6809is Res down and Res pen not the same thing?
@@RomaNepl no, res pen makes your damage ignore their defense to that element, res down reduces their defense to the element
@@SevenRedSuns1296 so in the damage formula they are essentially the same?
@@RomaNepl
Let me interrupt.
RES PEN & RES DOWN essentially the same, and additive to each other within the damage formula.
The only difference between them is:
RES PEN is a BUFF, and character/enemy with it will basically inflicts more damage to related element (such as Fire-Ele RES PEN) or all elements (All-RES PEN)
RES DOWN is a DEBUFF, and character/enemy with it will basically takes more damage of related element or all elements.
1 thing I need to mention that Fire MC with Trend of the Universal Market LC will become one of the best teammate for Acheron as Fire MC's taunt also counted as debuff. Also, if there are 5 enemies on the field and all of them getting taunted by fire MC, each of them will be getting the burn debuff by hitting Fire MC. It will be total of 1 (taunt) + 5 enemies = 6 charges for Acheron in a single cycle. Correct me if Im wrong, thank you @Xlice
Fire MC isn't a reliable solo sustain. What do you do to keep your team alive?
@@NunazacWe're assuming that you spam Taunt every turn (with ATK boots Acheron and really fast Pela+Sw SP is not gonna be a problem ever) and that you have high EHR on them (you want to it to proc the Market every time). So your team should only ever be getting damage from AoE, and even then with 15% reduction and small shield. It's way more than enough to survive most enemies.
@@Nunazac there are multiple videos here on youtube that show the MC being enough for solo sustain MoC12 rn provided your team can clear fast enough and the MC is invested enough (which should be for MoC anyway), so I think its a valid option for people who dont have other options and own the Trends LC and dont want to spend the guaranteed ticket on Gepard
I run fire Mc with gepards lc, e6s5 guin e6s5 black swan and e6tingyun, I'll replace tingyun with acheron. Fmc has more then enough sustain already with that team, adding acheron is just icing on thee cake.
isn't it the case that you cannot gain more than one stack for acheron in a single action? just like how pela's ult applies defense down on all the enemies but she only gives acheron one ult stack
This is very VERY insightful, thank you. Adding some questions to ask for players to consider is really helpful! Really tackled most of the topic i am looking for
Awesome guide! Very detailed and comprehensive. You covered all the subjects. I can tell you put a lot of work into making this guide.
I miss him already 😭 hf on vacation
By far and away the best guide out there. Thank you for being literally the only CC I've seen show her trace information on-screen so that we can read them and get a better understanding without having to rewatch the video 90 times :).
Guinaifen is actually able to implant debuffs without utilizing skillpoints. Her debuff can hit on her basics and she can carry Resolution Shines Like Pearls of Sweat PLUS her debuff synergizes with fire units, if another fire nihility ever comes out or if someone has E2.
From what I hear, Firekiss doesn't count for acheron's slashed dream? Is that the debuff ur talking about?
nah it the burn debuff
I want to bring to attention one thing about the Ensnare debuff of Resolution, is that it doesn't land if the enemy is already affected by it. So suppose you are landing a debuff with Pela, (1 stack of Ache Ult) and then Pela goes 1-2 more times (since Pela is built with Speed) but the enemy has been slowed/delayed (Ruan Mei or either with Welt or Silver Wolf), the Ensnare debuff will not land and Ache will not get a Ult stack.
I know this is for Pela, but Gui is also built similarly.
@@SM-oc4rcinteresting note! I’ll keep that in mind when I have Acheron in hand
@@angelsoflolz you're right it doesnt, but guin applies burn with every attack she does, except for her ult
Insanely well made guide as always, really appreciate the work you´re putting into these , definitely the go-to person when it comes to high quality guides c:
I enjoy watching this video especially the editing quality and details in each section .. very helpful thanks
FTB with Trend is a highly valuable option for a more aggressive Preservation synergy. Not only can they use Trend LC, The Fire Break counts as a DoT whilst Gepards wouldn't, and the application of Taunt is also counted as a debuff, further giving Acheron stacks of Slashed Dream. I know FTB is chronically over looked cause they're free and everyone has the character, but I very strongly believe FTB will be the best F2P support that everyone has access to.
but it's not suitable as a solo sustain unit, that's why Gepard/Fu Xuan is the better option.
@@alexandrusava6980 Yes, that is the same mindless drivel I've been hearing to dismiss the character, but you don't need to sustain, you need to only live long enough and generate enough stacks for Acheron to obliterate the enemies. It's the same principle as Welt.
@@alexandrusava6980don't get me wrong I get where you're coming from but fire mc can solo sustain pretty well if you built them properly. I know so because I have been using fmc for a few patches now for moc 12 clears for fun and it works well.
@@merafera3390 i'm sure it can hold it's own in most fights, but i do think it starts to struggle in prolong fights, aoe attacks and dot damage that starts creeping in fast. If all your characters are built slightly beefier than usual it should be fine, but there's always that possibility where it's simply not enough shielding.
@@_ViIe_ it's not a comfy pick, you always need to be mindful of the next attack, most casual players will probably die or need a couple of resets to clear content in MOC. And if Acheron can't clear the wave in one cycle it starts to become painful really fast. I get it, high risk, high reward character, but if the DPS check isn't there, it's simply not the preservation you need in that team.
BY FAR THE BEST ACHERON GUIDE love you xlice this was an awesome video keep it up
Thanks for the guide, have a good vacation you deserve it!
Amazing guide! Great work, and have a wonderful vacation XSlice!
Great Video mr xlice, i prolly gonna rewatch this once she is out. Ty for all the info and analysis ❤
Thanks for making this guide! It was well organized, with clear detailed explanations, and top notch editing as always 👏 Also your release timing was Perfect!
Have a good vacation, you deserve it!
Also, Acheron can definitely be the center of my world 🤩
amazing and very complete guide !! thank you Xlice !!
Thank you for this interesting and informative video, it will help a lot!
Not the first ive seen, but by far the most comprehensive and useful Acheron guide - amazing work as always. Hope you have a nice break!
A small point for Sustainers, while similar to Gallagher as their solo sustain capiabilities are not very strong, Fire Main Character is also an option, they benefit from the Effect hit Rate as they also can apply a debuff every turn (Taunt) while also forcing the enemies to hit them, causing burns to battery Acheron super fast, which she'll need because as I said, Fire MC is not very good at solo-sustain.
seen tests on him, he's actually good, some situations he could in spot he won't able to aoe heal, but he does good job healing though, you will need copies if you want cleanse he needs E2
Gallaghers healing is actually really good if you're building high break effect, judging by the lackluster heal in the video he had absolutely none. Considering his heals do scale of break effect. He cleanses at e2 which isnt too much of a tall ask for a featured 4 banner 4star. Im extremely looking forward to using him.
This was honestly a very good guide video. Keep up the great work man.
Thanks for the guide Mr Xlice
This has been hands down the best video for Acheron! Perfectly breaks down everything I was wondering and looking for.
Great guide Mr pp as always
Best guide I’ve seen, so detailed and insightful, thank you!
Guide is HUGE, and I really want to build her so I’m going for it, unironically thanks a ton for the guide since I was gonna go in a different direction than what you said probably 😅
for my sustain unit I plan on using Fire MC with Trends LC as the MC's E Taunt counts as a debuff and Trends inflicts a debuff per stack which has really good synergy with Acheron, going to look into a Aventurine as well (also future healing Nihility unit on the way to replace all options for sustain~)
I don't want to be THAT debby downer, but healing on a Nihility unit sounds contradictive to the concept of Nihilism, if the devs stay true to that.
Nihilism breathes "Nothing matters in life. Let it all rot away to nothingness." Not exactly the heal-y type.
And a side of me says "nothing's impossible" but also another side of me expects the devs to stick with the theme. (coz it's cool)
So, proceed with minimum expectation is what I suggest.
@st.lucient4755 no like, we have full on leaked kits and character files
@@jakewilson1511 Oh, I see.
I don't do leaks. So I can't say much. Sorry
But even so, be careful with things still subject to changes.
@st.lucient4755 was trying to be subtle with it. These leaks dont tend to be fake, but so far we have a gimmick, kit and their healing works like Gallagher's
Wow great guide. I’m glad you got into the server because I haven’t really watched your content before easy sub.
Good news for F2P: Good Night and Sleep Well LC is on the Acheron LC banner as a 4star. Might be worth a few pulls on banner, if cant go fully into Acheron LC.
(I have S4 GNSW, so it's my chance to max it out)
Nice
im praying that i win my damn 50/50 so i can go for her lc, but even if i dont im a also try to snipe a few
@@Lostshadow-so8ut def not, gnsw is one of the best 4 star nihility light cones, and many nihility chars want it not just acheron
Good news? That's not very good news lol. F2P and gambling on a lightcone banner for 4-stars, name a more horrible combo. This character is not F2P at all, if a player was truly f2p I'd just say go with Kafka/Swan instead who can reasonably use f2p lightcones of Fermata and Showtime to decent effect and get numerous characters along the way, or Jingliu who has her best support Bronya as a guarantee from 300 selector and a usable Herta shop LC.
This is a very well put together guide. Thank you Mr Xlice, I am a very happy frog
Great guide!
Though I do disagree with Atk Boots, particularly if you either have E2 or E0S1 - or both. 134+ speed makes her able to spam her skill and ultimate so consistently that teammate variety increases by a lot. The rate at which she'll be able to use her ultimate vs a little extra attack is a world of difference, as she doesn't gain energy from outside means like Tingyun/Huohuo or even just getting hit.
Getting 2 stacks per turn (or 3 if E2S1) is massive for her rotations, and doing that more often seems to be a lot better than dealing 10% more damage and taking a little longer to do so.
I would argue that a lot of time some extra speed would only grand you 1-2 extra turn but it still comedown case by case and what substat you get on it
If you go spd boots with sparkle i don't think you would survive since that team has no sustain. So for zero cycle 160+ sparkle with atk boots Archeron is way better. In calculations yeah slow sparkle or bronya with 134/135 Archeron would performs much better but you would be dead even before getting the second turn for Archeron with a setup like that without a sustain in game.
@@kaseyatakahashi9753 but then it's a case by case scenario; only with Sparkle would Atk boots be 100% always optimal. I for one will keep Sparkle glued to my DHIL on MoC, for example. Bronya with one speed behind is also great with a dps on speed boots, as it's simply even more extra turns.
And say I want to run Acheron with Ruan Mei or another upcoming Harmony or even a Preservation unit that debuffs - speed boots would still maintain consistent value in terms of nº of turns. I'd say that's more valuable than some extra attack you'll already be getting from multiple sources in her build, such as entirely forgoing ERR rope as it's unnecessary, being able to use Atk rope instead. All of her minor traces are offensive too, which is a nice bonus.
Oh so I guess I was lucky getting speed Pioneer boots with double crit substat after all. It went into crit rate twice.
Zero sustain for now* @@kaseyatakahashi9753
Awesome guide! Thanks!
Thx bro for your opinion , waiting for the detailed guide 😊
Hands down the best guide for Acheron thus far. Thank you very much for the content Mr Xlice.
Hi Professor Dr Mr Xlice. What is the boss material on level up Archeron? will it be new drop in the upcoming update or the current ones.
4:55 So acheron did true damage to enemy it means 100% defence ignore ? or just toughness defence ignorance?
which path would you recommend in sim universe / Swarm desaster... when using E0S0 Acheron ( with GNSW ), because Nihility-path favours DoT which Acheron doesn't really do.
Thank you for your hard work Xlice 🙏
I don't think it was mentioned but the fire mc taunt skill is considered a debuff too, with universal trend it works really well so that's something to consider too.
Yes also you build already effect rate in fire mc for the taunt, so not big deal for universal trend working better, the problem is that most people will get gallagher free plus his dupes if pulling archeron, he seems great at E2 and free lightcone
@@asorethe’s a smelly dude tho so can’t come
Great guide!
Have a nice trip.
Thanks so much for the vid!
Excellent guide. Thx!
Thanks for the video, and have a nice trip. Also I'm wondering, since Acheron's E6 makes all of he damage be considered Ult damage, would that mean her basic and skill can benefit from the SU blessings that buff Ult damage like the Erudition path? If so that could get pretty juiced
I guess so, its overkill, maybe the game gets boring
awesome guide ty so much!!
Hey Xlice! Great guide
Quick question on the SPD boots, particularly for E6 since you do a decent amount of damage with E do you believe it's still an ATK boot angle over SPD?
You can use hanabi/bronya/both and stick with atk boots, althrought 134 spd transform her in your average dps but with higher damage ceiling and costy ultimate
Yes spd is overall better if you have her at higher eidolons, atk gives like 10% dmg boost, not worth it over being able to ult every 2 turn
So as a budget player who barely swipes, would I go for her e2 first, or her lc? (If I even get her that is)
Would pela SW work ? So you get extra def shred plus the double nihility buff ?
I have S5 Pearls and S1 Incessant rain for pela, which should be better? I'm leaning in Incessant since it's DMG taken vs def shred which pela already provide on her ult
i was thinking about the MC preservation with the taunt and the trend of universal market LC , can be great with acheron no ?
Which of the following Light Cone options would be better for an E0 Acheron? S3 Good Night and Sleep Well, S5 It’s Showtime, S5 Fermata with Sampo in the team, S0 In the Name of the World.
So Should I go with Silver Wolf + Acheron or Pela + Acheron? I have well Built SW and Unbuilt Pela. Should I build Pela or just use SW?
Do taunts count as debuffs? Cause if they do then the Fire MC (as not great as they are) can run Universal Market and benefits from having Effect Hit Rate, it might not be a bad choice for more F2P players
And this is why I wait for your videos before I start fully building units thanks dude
Also I noticed for harmony characters I didn’t see ruan Mei I figured she would be good ?
Ruan Mei is good with break effect but acheron doesn't need break she needs debuff ..
i will build her with welt LC is that good? because i dont have any more jades for her S LC
Thanks for the guide, Mr pp.
Hope you are nicely wrapping things up and preparing to have some well deserved trip. And see you in May, Mr pp.
(And oh boy, Mr Coap...
You're such a GIGACHAD. That's all I'm gonna say.)
I have S4 GNSW and silverwolfs signature lightcone. Along with pela and silverwolf. Could i make her work without her signature until her rerun?
This video convinced me not only get acheron but go for her E2 as well. her kit is actually so insane and you did a great job displaying that! Here is to E2 Acheron!!
Acheron, Black Swan, Pela and Ghallagher. What do u guys think? (My Acheron is e0 and I'm working on getting her signature)
28:40 Doesn't Fire MC also apply taunt as a debuff?
Yes they do, also build effect rate normally
Poggers new Xlice video while he's on vacation.
question Xlice... in SU how does the erudition path affect acherons ult?does the ult get refreshed? or does it nullify it because the ult doesnt use energy?
If it's erudition it's work but not for hunt blessing
yeaa, erudition path works, it affects acheron ult :3
lets say I have all the Nihility chars, would a Black Swan e1 work better than Pela and SB for Acheron?
Once again just like Brax another person being honest and truthful about the light cone difference thank you xlice
The one thing I want to know about Acheron is, how well does the setting to tone down flashing visuals work on her ultimate?
needed this thank you my goat 🙏
Im gonna go for E0 Acheron. Do i need speed boots or atk% boots? im still confuse here. Since i have to run 2 nihility characters and one preservation/abundance unit to keep me alive. If i go for E2 i definitely can go for sparkle. But since im E0 i have to run Spd boots right?
Unless your Acheron can inflict debuff then having high SPD wouldn't do much to her since she'll just add 1 stack anyway
Having the signature LC would probably change her sphere too from lightning DMG to ATK since she gets a lot of DMG% from her kit and LC alone
can anyone help and tell me if this is a good setup for acheron
acheron
welt (with before the tutorial mission starts s5)
pela e2 (with resolution shines as pearls of sweat s4)
luocha
i also have good night and sleep well at s5. what do we think
Is Pela being overvalued for Acheron? Specifically when compared to Silver Wolf?
My answer is no when there's more than 2 chunky enemies, but most challenging content in the game is 2 or less chonkers, right? Pela's aoe def down doesn't really mean anything for Acheron (she'll kill most things no super tanky regardless of def down). I think I value her ult to shred tanks more? Her bugs aren't meaningless either.
Will have to test both.
Will Acheron's e4 allow her to go speed boots or is it e2? I can't remember
24:46 gui can inflict burn with basic attacks so she can easily be sp positive.
you can even play her with full energy recharge to make her apply even more debuffs because most of the damage is coming from acheron
How about ruan mei instead of bronya or sparkle i have bronya but like ruan giving her 64% plus damage three turns i mean who will be better?
No one mentions fire MC. I feel they might be worth using if they can solo sustain with taunt and the burn light cone inflicting 2 debuffs
I noticed in Acherons trial that her skill can accumulate two points towards her burst without the other characters applying debuffs on the enemies. I was wondering how I could reciprocate this into my Acheron for faster burst spamming?
I have e1s1 black swan and e0s1 Kafka, gonna be running Acheron with them and maybe a gepard with the burn lc
hey xlice... which do you think would be more impactful: S1 or E2? Thanks!
If I would've watched more... I think I get my answer lol. E2 > S1
I've already farmed her talents, ascend and relics for her😊😊😊. I prefarmed before the livestream
I have e1 sw with tutorial s5, will she be better than e6 pela with debuff lighcone?
Whats her dream team? Like her absolute best team at e2, i got acheron and wanna summon for her best team in the future but idk what 5* characters to summon on
Just wanted to come out here and say that I’m so glad you are still making star rail videos!! I totally understand why you chose to focus on genshin and I respect that completely. But ngl, I love your guides on star rail more than anyone else’s, all the love!!
How fast can acheron ult if u don't have trend LC&don't planning to use Gallagher?
Is silver wolf and welt still a good option compared to pela and one of them?
if im going for e2, is pela a better pair for her than sw?
This team comp breakdown was great!
I have:
E6 G lady (80% built)
E0 black swan unbuilt
E2 pela unbuilt
E1 welt well built.
I was agonizing over which one to build out, still kinda am.
helpful and easy guide THANKSSSSS
Will u make a Gallagher guide as well? I want to see your side of build on him besides Braxophone's.
im so confused help mr xliceee, you see I have bailou, dr ratio and welt E1 sadge, im almost hitting pity and idk if should continue to get sparkle or wait for Acheron (I like more Acheron but idk what's the best for my acc). pls say its Acheron D:
just go for archeron if you want her that much, there are reruns anyways
Thanks a tonnnn
Hi guy I‘m new to Honkai Star Rail. I have some question I have IL Sparkle Gepard Bilu in my team atm I‘m lvl 52 won all my 50/50 except for Jing Yuan. My question is should I go for Luocha or should I go for Acheron pls help thx.
tbh id go acheron but thats just me
For Trend of the Universal Market, it allows your Preservation character welcome effect hit rate sub stats (at least 50%) and run Belobog Planar ornament to catch up to the missing Def% rolls. I have a shielding 4 piece with Belobog March 7th for cheesing Golden Gears. Can interchange it with Gepard for Acheron support. 😁
Get the bag Xlice!
this video is super clean
13:56 i just wanna point out that the 3 star loop lc at s5 is usable if youre using a welt, it gives 48% dmg bonus so its bascailly s2 GNSW but worse base stats.
So do you into expensive lady (acheron) or cheaper lady (jingliu)?
Nice info 😮
is my team good for archeron? Black swan, silver wolf and Fu xuan?
Finally! I’ve been waiting for this since Xlice said he was part of the creator server. I love how exhaustive his videos are.
I freaking love Xlays' guides
I've seen couple guides and they say atk% orb is better then Lightning?
E2 or s1 switch would be better to go for?