DON'T NEED Signature Lightcone | Acheron CN Analysis

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  • Опубліковано 27 жов 2024

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  • @Tom-101
    @Tom-101 7 місяців тому +661

    Sorry you posted this 30 minutes late so I can't watch it now

    • @_Hanako.
      @_Hanako. 7 місяців тому +9

      Agreed.

    • @danikazeytv
      @danikazeytv 7 місяців тому +69

      No, he posted a week and 30 mins late so it's definitely unwatchable

    • @Tom-101
      @Tom-101 7 місяців тому +32

      @@danikazeytv True I can't watch this since it came out way after the creator experience server videos

    • @CaioVictor20101
      @CaioVictor20101 7 місяців тому +6

      Such a skill issue indeed

    • @spectra1037
      @spectra1037 7 місяців тому +2

      I agree really sucks for pokke

  • @Princess-rt6iq
    @Princess-rt6iq 7 місяців тому +222

    Respect to this guy pumping out content before even prydwen got updated

    • @handaranda
      @handaranda 7 місяців тому +8

      Prydwen was always slow

    • @MrNoUMr
      @MrNoUMr 7 місяців тому +18

      Prydwen so slow they took down the entire calculator cuz they couldn't keep up lol

    • @johnd7760
      @johnd7760 7 місяців тому +1

      Just join the official server kid, they had the math a week ago😂

    • @awatcher4965
      @awatcher4965 7 місяців тому +8

      Prywden so ass they used s5 gnsw for their simulations.... Totally relatable and fair yea...

    • @Elidan1012
      @Elidan1012 7 місяців тому

      🤡🤡@@awatcher4965

  • @Ghrifter
    @Ghrifter 7 місяців тому +68

    thank you for the frame 1 CN analysis, it's really helpful

  • @keganroark1526
    @keganroark1526 7 місяців тому +69

    Did anyone notice they changed the name of the debuff on her light cone. It’s no longer called empty bubbles

    • @Mike.Erman.Trout.
      @Mike.Erman.Trout. 7 місяців тому +37

      I saw someone in live chat say "aren't all bubbles empty anyway?!" 😂

    • @keganroark1526
      @keganroark1526 7 місяців тому +7

      @@Mike.Erman.Trout. 🤣 not really. There’s toxic bubbles that can be full of gas but yeah it was a weird name I don’t know why they changed it though. The new one isn’t much better. “Mirage fizzle” for shizzle I guess

    • @Glast04
      @Glast04 7 місяців тому +4

      Anything is better than empty bubbles lol.

    • @floofzykitty5072
      @floofzykitty5072 7 місяців тому +4

      @@Mike.Erman.Trout. They're referring to DREAM bubbles, so it means "Empty Dreams"

  • @playerone282
    @playerone282 7 місяців тому +8

    I got Acheron and her Signature LC (albeit reluctantly) so this guide coming in frame 1 of the banner dropping is a lifesaver
    Thanks for the detailed content MrPokke!

  • @asnttlover1074
    @asnttlover1074 7 місяців тому +52

    Pulling soley to mintpick faster

  • @oliverlam5208
    @oliverlam5208 7 місяців тому +9

    Damn I should have watched this before syngerizing relics…
    Thank you for this.

  • @foxyrouge8775
    @foxyrouge8775 7 місяців тому +130

    Just got Acheron and her LC and spent 50 pulls only. I’m still in shock but as a F2P this is a major W

    • @darenh355
      @darenh355 7 місяців тому +9

      Major w indeed. Congratz

    • @ao2415
      @ao2415 7 місяців тому +2

      absolutely a w as f2p

    • @TheRedRationalist
      @TheRedRationalist 7 місяців тому +4

      Congratz. I am extremely jealous.

    • @D4LM4D
      @D4LM4D 7 місяців тому +2

      Wow, congratulations 🎉

    • @shotgunammo
      @shotgunammo 7 місяців тому +6

      You posting this on every guide or what xD

  • @Tiasung
    @Tiasung 7 місяців тому +7

    Thanks for the information. Was wondering if Welt's Technique would work like that, nice to see it tested. 💯
    Welt stocks going up!

  • @KyleBored
    @KyleBored 7 місяців тому +75

    THIS CHANGES EVERYTHING

  • @angelawang7020
    @angelawang7020 7 місяців тому +16

    As a F2P, I can proudly say that I got my first back to back 5 star today. Bronya (C2 now) and then Acheron. I got Acheron way earlier than anticipated (30 pity), thinking about the lightcone now… Putting my luck out there, Good luck to everyone pulling!!

    • @daverwilfred4202
      @daverwilfred4202 7 місяців тому +1

      Me too man, got 3 copies within a single 10 pulls, best thing ever !!! Im also f2p btw. Good luck to everyone.

    • @angelawang7020
      @angelawang7020 7 місяців тому

      @@daverwilfred4202 Congrats!! 3 copies of Acheron is insane. C2 Acheron is so good-

    • @Samwise_genji
      @Samwise_genji 6 місяців тому

      Ü​@@angelawang7020u believe him 💀

  • @Karacis
    @Karacis 7 місяців тому +5

    She’s finally here! The moment we’ve all been waiting for lol. I’ve been excited for her for months it seems like. I spent 350 pulls and got her E2S1. Lost only 1 50/50, so am super happy with that. U was hoping for her E2S1 😁

  • @redcoldedlava9937
    @redcoldedlava9937 7 місяців тому +11

    FINALLY SOMEONE EXPLAINS OVERWORLD XP FARM POTENTIAL

  • @Ginko1396
    @Ginko1396 7 місяців тому +3

    we're trick snacking with this one

  • @sp-exos3517
    @sp-exos3517 7 місяців тому +9

    Pokke Sensei, thank you for the guide

  • @NoroDaitsuki
    @NoroDaitsuki 7 місяців тому +85

    She is still strong but yk that you still need a S5 version of all of those 4 star lightcone. And also the longer the fight drag out the more noticeable the different between a S5 GNSW lc and her signature lightcone (she will cast more ultimate). Overall she is still a strong unit but i wish they actually do showcase of her with the s1 version of the 4 star lc alternative.

    • @Zendelxex
      @Zendelxex 7 місяців тому +8

      looking on just the number of flowers gain by acheron herself only, by her 9th turn, she would have loss 1 ulti cast. However, she will continue to improve with incoming characters to buff her playstyle

    • @EngelAguilar
      @EngelAguilar 7 місяців тому +46

      yeah... "just pull S5 4* LC guys 3head" xD
      I'll wait to see some review on her at E0S0 to see if she can clear content without hyperinvesment (some people have godly relics that I'll never get xD)

    • @teaandmilk7172
      @teaandmilk7172 7 місяців тому +4

      23:55

    • @pixelpuppy
      @pixelpuppy 7 місяців тому +3

      exactly. after all this time still no S5 GNSW, and that's on my Kafka anyway. At the same time, you *don't* want your MoC fight to drag on anyway. I'll prolly pull for her lightcone in the end.

    • @azbui2046
      @azbui2046 7 місяців тому +11

      It's funny because Gnsw in on her signature lc banner so you might as well just go for her sig

  • @kenngo3690
    @kenngo3690 7 місяців тому +3

    Hanya's skill applying Burden is also not considered a debuff.

  • @zankoushadow
    @zankoushadow 7 місяців тому +19

    NUCLEAR CHARACTER ANALYSIS

    • @KoryLunaa
      @KoryLunaa 7 місяців тому +2

      THIS CHANGES EVERYTHING

  • @zacyu208
    @zacyu208 7 місяців тому +4

    Yeah Imma just get her and use the 4 star lightcone goodnight sleep well. Gonna saved for Firefly. Thanks for the analysis Pokke!

  • @_aeth_
    @_aeth_ 7 місяців тому +3

    I pulled her LC, because it was easier than pulling GNSW or the future 4* gacha LC 🙃

    • @raifu_chan
      @raifu_chan 7 місяців тому +2

      you’re so real for this, cuz i literally got her signature lc at hard pity and didn’t even get a SINGLE GNSW copy 😭😭

  • @DanielVKim
    @DanielVKim 7 місяців тому +2

    You say that e4 doesn't count as a debuff, but it actually does give a stack of slashed dreams when summoned enemies enters battle, like the dragonfish that the auramaton gatekeeper spawns. Though it's still only 1 stack for the whole action and not 1 per enemy.

  • @Molimo95
    @Molimo95 7 місяців тому +5

    Would have liked some comparisons between Fire MC/Gepard/Fu Xuan for sustain with trend of universal market.

  • @lordenvy3582
    @lordenvy3582 7 місяців тому +1

    Its really helpful, thank you for Analitycs!

  • @iiamshayyy9570
    @iiamshayyy9570 7 місяців тому +12

    Bro, my Acheron is killing it with GNSW. And I’m not even using the path planar set. She’ll be a monster once I get it 😂
    Keep up the great work pokke! ❤❤

    • @MrMoraleTop5
      @MrMoraleTop5 7 місяців тому

      Likewise, I lost 50/50 to welt light cone (needed it anyway) so I’m still using S5 GNSW and it’s working great, lightning set and Salsotto so when I actually get her weapon and set she will be shredding through MOC

  • @shinchan1307
    @shinchan1307 7 місяців тому +15

    dude you have hands down the best guides
    i wach all cc and your guide is the best

  • @renno2679
    @renno2679 7 місяців тому +1

    Apparently it's 22% better than S5 GNSW so I got it (I dont even have that 4 star LC at S5).
    You don't need ANY 5 star LC on anybody. It just makes building them easier.

  • @semivivusrex
    @semivivusrex 7 місяців тому +2

    We saw that with Jingliu LC. F2P Herta one was good enough but we pulled the signature regardless lmao 😂

  • @GuestQuest
    @GuestQuest 7 місяців тому +2

    Gepard just came home 😭

  • @soumitradas1837
    @soumitradas1837 6 місяців тому

    Btw it's not extra 60% dmg buff in trace, but it increases base dmg % of all attacks. For example, her skill's main target will take 1.6*160% of atk dmg instead of just 160% atk dmg. So the value it gives is way higher than simple dmg buff, since dmg buff gets added together before multiplying, so it decreases the actual value as it goes up.

  • @toxickingchristian2645
    @toxickingchristian2645 7 місяців тому +3

    Hard pity and I got a e2 himeko. Thanks hoyo for the blessings 🙏🏽 🖕🏼🖕🏼🖕🏼🖕🏼

  • @bjornnilsson2941
    @bjornnilsson2941 7 місяців тому +3

    Some very good info in this guide. Will come in handy when I win 50/50 later and get her LC early. Surely. Anyway I'm surprised that CN is sleeping on Welt sustain, they're usually ahead of the game on these things, but maybe they don't bother cause they're all going for E2S1+ lol

  • @Copesstar
    @Copesstar 7 місяців тому

    comparable e2 dhil THIS STATEMENT CHANGES EVERYTHING

  • @supercowgaming
    @supercowgaming 7 місяців тому +1

    Gl to everyone pulling for our queen!

  • @keq1688
    @keq1688 7 місяців тому +8

    so... any idea when is acheron's rerun? 😭

  • @EunzaYurane
    @EunzaYurane 7 місяців тому +5

    Mr. Chokke I don't have sparkle since I lost the 50/50 so can I just run Acheron with pela, welt, Gallagher?

  • @OutboundFlight87
    @OutboundFlight87 7 місяців тому +3

    Nuclear Acheron Drama

  • @k-ram9
    @k-ram9 7 місяців тому +4

    Hey does the slow debuff from Gepards E2 apply a stack of crimson knot? If so would that make him better than Fire MC cause enemies would be getting debuffed on their turn.

    • @k-ram9
      @k-ram9 7 місяців тому +5

      They would also be taking more actions since the freeze makes their next attack come out faster. so when they lose freeze they get slow debuff so that's +1 stack and when they attack Gepard with trend LC that's also +1 stack.

  • @CastielReborn
    @CastielReborn 7 місяців тому +6

    Why's there so many bot comments on this one

  • @kakashisensei8120
    @kakashisensei8120 7 місяців тому +9

    I'm still shaking right now 220 tickets DOUBLE Acheron pull on a 50/50 did some more got welt and another Acheron, pulled on the light cone banner got her light cone on a 75/25 with 21k jades left I Can't 😭😵

    • @mandom5714
      @mandom5714 7 місяців тому +2

      Light cone is 75/25

    • @kakashisensei8120
      @kakashisensei8120 7 місяців тому

      @@mandom5714 oh, ok

    • @ApolloMV2
      @ApolloMV2 7 місяців тому

      thats wild same thing happended to me. Not shacking but def am shocked atm

    • @super7sayain305
      @super7sayain305 7 місяців тому +4

      I got her in my first 10 pull, and honestly, I'm not going to risk getting her eidolons, I just got the game a few weeks ago and have been struggling without a 'sustain' and heard that Luocha has fallen off, so I'm thinking of going for that one dude with the shields.

    • @thisisshite
      @thisisshite 7 місяців тому +2

      Get e2

  • @sbif
    @sbif 7 місяців тому +4

    i used 240+ pulls and only got e0s1. im so pissed

    • @aria.e
      @aria.e 7 місяців тому +2

      not only you

    • @MariaRodriguez-hb4ix
      @MariaRodriguez-hb4ix 7 місяців тому +1

      Whaled to get her E2 . Lost all 50:50 . Got all 5* 80 pulls or more . 😢
      LC was way better. Got it with 5 pulls . Previous one with 15 .

    • @sbif
      @sbif 7 місяців тому +2

      @@MariaRodriguez-hb4ix bro my friend got e2s1 completely f2p 😭 lucky mf

  • @jonberry7604
    @jonberry7604 7 місяців тому

    Huge help thx for the insight sir

  • @BeefyPaladin
    @BeefyPaladin 7 місяців тому +3

    It took me 160 wishes to get Acheron. Back to back rough pulls. It all started with sparkle! 25.6K Jades!!! I really hope all my future pulls aren't like this. Luckily it only took me one 10 pull to get her Light Cone.

    • @kaseyatakahashi9753
      @kaseyatakahashi9753 7 місяців тому

      Same I Lost 50/50 and got her lc with one ten pulls.

    • @wongyiixuanwrss2619
      @wongyiixuanwrss2619 7 місяців тому

      No way thats too relateable to me,i 90 pity to get welt and abt 80 pity to get acheron,then 10 pull for her lightcone

    • @BeefyPaladin
      @BeefyPaladin 7 місяців тому

      @@wongyiixuanwrss2619 I lost my 50/50 to welt too.

  • @spenky
    @spenky 7 місяців тому

    19:30 Silver Wolf also has 8% Def Down from her tallent so with Pela that would be 95% Def down without Resolution LC. Also. Resolution does not give an extra stack for Acheron if another debuff is aplied at the time of the atack as Silver Wolf does on basic, skill and Ult and Pela E4+ on Skill and Ult. Resolution gives Acheron an extra stack only on Pela Basic but you sacrifice Pela 2 turn Ult. I found it better to run Tutorial LC on Pela for 2 Turn Ult and Good Night Sleep Well S5/In the Name of the World (Incessant if you have it) on Silver Wolf and have her as sub DPS.

  • @SeekGrace
    @SeekGrace 7 місяців тому +1

    Acheron, the best waifu in the game deserves her LC. Hence worth it. 😉

  • @halowryyych
    @halowryyych 7 місяців тому

    May have lost the 50/50 but made up for it with a double Acheron pull and won lightcone rng. E1 S1 for $150 I’ll take it.

  • @CyberNinja04
    @CyberNinja04 7 місяців тому

    With the damage calc he now can say "SAVE ME E2S1 ACHERON!!!"

  • @imerebus
    @imerebus 7 місяців тому

    I may not have needed it but I wanted it

  • @obseed3041
    @obseed3041 7 місяців тому

    I'm watching this even though I have her LC just so I can be with all the people of unlucky position.

  • @AcheronEnjoyerFR
    @AcheronEnjoyerFR 7 місяців тому

    My plan as a mid-luck player: pull her and her lightcone, wait for rerun and stack stellar jades, pull for e1 and e2

  • @abortedButGoated
    @abortedButGoated 7 місяців тому

    so signature is 13% to 26% better than a S5 gnsw
    that's quiet significant to insane
    it also improves the experience by reducing the ramp up period

  • @negan819
    @negan819 7 місяців тому +1

    I know, I still pulled the LC.

  • @XvAstarisk
    @XvAstarisk 7 місяців тому +5

    Instructions unclear, got Acheron e0s1

  • @invertbrid
    @invertbrid 7 місяців тому

    Can drop preservation trends later when her patner support arrives. But for now, trend is a must mostly.

    • @dalandann
      @dalandann 7 місяців тому +1

      What path does her future support follow?

    • @xArufen
      @xArufen 7 місяців тому +1

      ​@@dalandannNihility.

    • @sirsuntar8717
      @sirsuntar8717 7 місяців тому +1

      For E0S0 you might actually still run FMC with trends, since there's no faster way to charge ult.
      Especially for PF

    • @invertbrid
      @invertbrid 7 місяців тому +1

      @@sirsuntar8717 well probably yea for PF. For MoC prob not. So u have consistent debuff, even when jiao ulti downtime. Jiao also applies debuff to enemy every action they take during his ulti duration, so it wont stack with trends, as acheron talent cap at 1 stack per action.
      So using him + MC trends kinda bad. MC still can taunt ofc, but need SP and trend wont generate any acheron stack during jiao ulti. When jiao ulti on cooldown, then trends can generate stack again, we dunno how long the downtime of jiao will be as for now.

    • @sirsuntar8717
      @sirsuntar8717 7 місяців тому +1

      @@invertbridwasn't aware of those leaks. nvm then :D

  • @Niedajsiepolaku
    @Niedajsiepolaku 7 місяців тому

    no luck for me but still here for some good info.edited (I got her in the end).

  • @GGiGotHydra
    @GGiGotHydra 7 місяців тому +1

    @MrPokke pin this
    To anyone doing overworld in 2.0 total xp per character in a map clear is 100k new patch calcs Im still doing so I will update you all here on my next day since I 100ted the map.
    Edit: Here is the data now for those psychos that love Overworld farming.
    116144 xp earned per character (464k) ~103 TP
    Creds 63822 earned - ~26 TP
    Time spent 58 minutes (about an hour)
    12 minutes were Herta station and Belobog
    19 minutes Luofu
    27 minutes Penacony
    In 2.0 alone before Acheron it took me ~3 HOURS to clear the map.
    This woman alone eats a minimum of 80 bags of chips, how she is not getting fat is beyond me she has a god damn black hole in her stomach

  • @Fraudkuna
    @Fraudkuna 7 місяців тому

    pokke was busy using his cursed technique on CCs that were pulling for acheron 😂 so this video came in late

  • @blazeyprime4470
    @blazeyprime4470 7 місяців тому

    E4S1 and climbing to a dream.

  • @3thern
    @3thern 7 місяців тому

    Welt sustain was a foot note 😮

  • @corneagalus201
    @corneagalus201 7 місяців тому

    So i asume the mighty DHIL has fallen and acheron has taken the throne now?

  • @robgabmac
    @robgabmac 7 місяців тому

    Damnnnnn you telling me E2 DHIL got powercrept??? by E2 Acheron... My wallet's hurting

  • @javsama1
    @javsama1 7 місяців тому

    THanks!! I've been breaking my head trying to figure out and finding simulations all over the internet to see if she really needs it, I saw some simulations were her dmg as S0E0 with GNSW s5 is comparable with Jingliu S0E0 too, I'm fine with that

    • @johnd7760
      @johnd7760 7 місяців тому

      yeap, jl better ofc, but not significantly. and it's ok, anyway.

  • @norbertsatro6752
    @norbertsatro6752 7 місяців тому

    Holy shit man, memory reboot at start fits too much

  • @iMarcism
    @iMarcism 7 місяців тому

    Great guide

  • @Silulaya
    @Silulaya 7 місяців тому +1

    whale commentary: yeahh so without her signature her 0 cycle is about 20 seconds slower so you really need to get that otherwise the units noit really worth the time or investment
    Normal commentary: Acheron is hot and with just her best team she performs on par with the other strongest teams and shes also hot 10/10 recommend

  • @thederp9309
    @thederp9309 7 місяців тому

    Wow… who would’ve guessed… since I watched all the previous videos from the other CCs… but what’s this? I’m still watching this… absolutely unfathomable

  • @Ryuoinsomnia
    @Ryuoinsomnia 7 місяців тому +1

    I die die need the lightcone, simply because GNSW is stucked with Kafka and it is not even s5, it is impossible to get 2 copies of S5 GNSW for both kafka and acheron in the short period of time so I must get acheron lc. It sucks that her lightcone is so limited, most of Nihility lc is for dot chars. If there is a f2p option pretty sure nobody would want to pull for her lc

  • @feiht5487
    @feiht5487 7 місяців тому +2

    if im having dps i'd get her LC like whats the point of dps anymore

  • @someoneinasia
    @someoneinasia 7 місяців тому +4

    as a f2p peasant, is E0+GNSW Acheron better than E0+hertastore Jingliu?

    • @lovesham7754
      @lovesham7754 7 місяців тому +4

      If we are talking only about Damage then Yes but Acheron also requires 2 nihility debuffers.. so overall will say jingliu is more f2p friendly

    • @MrcreeperDXD777
      @MrcreeperDXD777 7 місяців тому

      Only at S5

    • @Tiasung
      @Tiasung 7 місяців тому +2

      Jingliu fits into more team comps. Acheron wants nihility characters too, not just for the Big Trace, but also because any unit that can apply debuff during turn & ult, will make her able to ult more. That said, Jingliu has some issues against enemies with high Ice Resist. So in terms of enemies Acheron is more versatile.

    • @sathariel3231
      @sathariel3231 7 місяців тому

      Archeron would have better ceiling I would assume

    • @shoblessed
      @shoblessed 7 місяців тому

      ​@Tiasung people seem to forget ratio needs debuffs as well for him to properly work. It's just a different unit

  • @banay3948
    @banay3948 7 місяців тому +1

    Wouldn't ruan mei also be good she provides debuff and also weakness break is easier?

  • @amaranthianonakukoroni5228
    @amaranthianonakukoroni5228 7 місяців тому +1

    so... between SW+pela vs BS E1 + sw/pela, which is actually kinda better?? also, does BS need to ult a lot? better to use err for her?

    • @TheAnaz41745
      @TheAnaz41745 7 місяців тому +1

      If you have Kafka's LC on your E1 Black Swan, then no need to maintain BS Ult debuff since the Erode effect already counts as a Shock and proc the lightning res down effect of E1 Black Swan

  • @Js_ping
    @Js_ping 7 місяців тому +2

    For a beginner like me should i pull for acheron or wait for jingliu?

    • @rollersoze
      @rollersoze 7 місяців тому +3

      For a beginner Jing Liu is easier than Acheron

    • @-Getsuga-
      @-Getsuga- 7 місяців тому +2

      I'm in the same boat as you and I'll get Jingliu, because she just a lot easier to build and unlike Acheron she has a great F2P 5star LC option from Herta's shop.

  • @BrunoSouza-it4yi
    @BrunoSouza-it4yi 7 місяців тому +1

    Pokke do you know the stats from the preservation mc from the video ?

  • @phantr2530
    @phantr2530 7 місяців тому

    Having an higher Base Atk iirc don't specifically give Atk% a better value without giving value to all other multipliers. having higher base atk just mean than your character we'll do higher damage overall. and reduce the value of flat atk. Atk% remain with the same value compared to other multiplier because they all benefit from higher base atk. it's a common mistake ppl think i have to say.

  • @dlwk1988
    @dlwk1988 7 місяців тому

    Me reading all the guides and tips how to build archeron
    while my wallet & jades are at 0
    💀

  • @keruvin_KA
    @keruvin_KA 7 місяців тому +1

    If I only have S2 Trend of Universal, is it still better to use Trend Sustain compared to E4 Gallagher ?

    • @exu7325
      @exu7325 7 місяців тому +1

      Trend is fine at S1, you just need to build EHR.

  • @JamezJN007
    @JamezJN007 7 місяців тому +1

    I already have goodnight sleep well in use with kafka, what should i do? :(

    • @sirsuntar8717
      @sirsuntar8717 7 місяців тому

      Buy Fermata from Shop and run both of them together is an option
      Or run Sampo/BS alongside her if you have them

  • @laiaston9524
    @laiaston9524 7 місяців тому +1

    hi guys, how can i unlock pioneers diver of dead waters??? i cant find it in my list of grindable relics

    • @averagecommander
      @averagecommander 7 місяців тому +3

      Do the Penacony Trailblazer Mission! It's story locked unlike the Trace materials which u can still get.

    • @laiaston9524
      @laiaston9524 7 місяців тому

      @@averagecommander oh story locked...thanks so much!!! Guess this is gonna take a while cuz I'm still stuck at trying to beat the trash cans

  • @keithy13
    @keithy13 7 місяців тому

    I should have watched this vid earlier cause I wasted my $100+ pulling for Acheron LC only to lose 75/25 on the 79th pull. Having anxiety now and taking a long time recovering from this… and I already had GNSW S5 way earlier on my kafka.

    • @s2wuolf508
      @s2wuolf508 7 місяців тому

      If you had Welt her best team comp would be Bronya, Pela and Welt sustain while she uses the Loop lc.

  • @razvyz8067
    @razvyz8067 7 місяців тому +4

    how come everyone said her S1 is mandatory and now everonye says its not 💀

    • @Gesfalthe
      @Gesfalthe 7 місяців тому +10

      This has been a subtle trend with hsr. Content creators(not all,lol) and random commenters doom posting about characters and what they have to offer and people listen and take it too seriously and then blow them out of proportion. Yada yada. Good ol bandwagon.

    • @razvyz8067
      @razvyz8067 7 місяців тому

      @@Gesfalthe fr

    • @RandomPerson-cc9mn
      @RandomPerson-cc9mn 7 місяців тому

      If you take 20% off 100, its still bigger than 70. If it was just simple numbers, everyone would see 100*0.8 and conclude "80 is bigger than 70", but when add in enough variation that people don't understand the numbers anymore, their gut reaction is to think that having 20% less on 1 side must mean its less than the other. I think think this is effectively what happened with Acheron, where E0S1 Acheron might be like a 100, E0 S5GNSW Acheron might be with Jingliu or DHIL+sparkle as like an 80, and the average dps (that actually sees use) is probably a 70.
      In particular, I think this effect happened with her her ult. Not having S1 means that she gets 1 less stack per skill. A small porition of people genuinely thought this makes her one of the slowest ults in the game (and this was on a video where she ulted almost every cycle). If she had a 3-4 turn ult, as some people were speculating, she would in fact suck. She's pretty much twice as good as people incorrectly speculated without doing the math.

    • @exu7325
      @exu7325 7 місяців тому

      Her S1 isn't mandatory *IF* you can already achieve 2 turn ult with GNSW S5 (basically it's still mandatory if you don't have Trend and high superimposition GNSW).

    • @RandomPerson-cc9mn
      @RandomPerson-cc9mn 7 місяців тому

      @@exu7325 No its not. You have 10 cycles to complete MOC. Acheron is S+ tier with GNSW S5 and optimal team comp. If you get rid of some of those factors, she might drop to A tier. A tier characters can quite reasonably clear MOC.
      Plus getting 2 turn ult cycle is very reasonable. 2 nihilities and the stacks she gets from ult already put you about there.
      Like I said, if you take 20% off 100, its still more than 70, or in this case more like 50 because I think an optimally set up E0S0 Acheron already does over double the damage MOC requires.

  • @BuiltSimilarG
    @BuiltSimilarG 7 місяців тому

    Thank you bro

  • @essedieffe
    @essedieffe 6 місяців тому

    Welt+Huohuo+Black Swan techs combined doesn't seem to work even with Acheron S1. After landing all the debuffs you only start the fight with 7 stacks instead of 9.

  • @M_night69420
    @M_night69420 7 місяців тому +1

    She inded doesn't need it but it'll take a while and u can only use skill since u dont have her sig

  • @quangtuantran7181
    @quangtuantran7181 7 місяців тому

    Took me 180 pulls, but E0S1 Acheron is so worth it on my profile page. Dont know if she is strong tho, havent used her yet

  • @diego6991
    @diego6991 7 місяців тому +1

    I need some advice,
    I am a new player level 26 and i got Archeron at 83 pity.Should i go for the lightcone banner ?

    • @quietlywhispering
      @quietlywhispering 7 місяців тому

      totally if you can make it. then get a good sustain

    • @Mxrphyy
      @Mxrphyy 7 місяців тому

      I‘d say no and go for Aventurine. He’s gonna be of much more value for your account than Acheron’s LC

  • @christophermauro-barias7451
    @christophermauro-barias7451 7 місяців тому

    i wish he gave more e2 comps

  • @Mr_wisk
    @Mr_wisk 7 місяців тому

    mrpokke what do you think of acheron, SW and black swan + Shield/healer? do you think SW and black swan make a good team for her or should i remove black swan and build pela?

    • @Hidea98
      @Hidea98 7 місяців тому

      BS doesn't give as much utility as Pela even with E1. You also miss out on having two Nihility so Pela should be better than BS.

    • @Mr_wisk
      @Mr_wisk 7 місяців тому

      @@Hidea98 miss on 2 nihilty how? sw and black swan are nihility bro

    • @Hidea98
      @Hidea98 7 місяців тому

      @@Mr_wisk Woops Brain lag. Only consideration if you're E1 BS tho.

  • @gandraft._.440
    @gandraft._.440 7 місяців тому

    I got her E0S1 now, should i pull for E2, Luocha or wait for Aventurine or Jingliu? I have around 11k Jades left and we will get more pulls ofc as the patch goes on.

  • @Kasraken
    @Kasraken 7 місяців тому

    While trying to get one copy or Acheron I ended up with E6 Gallager. You are saying just use MC + Trends lightcone over him?

  • @Igraphi7335
    @Igraphi7335 7 місяців тому +1

    Why there isnt ruan mei.

  • @prettyandrich
    @prettyandrich 7 місяців тому

    having to watch the S1 is overhyped section on loop and i fear it's not working too well

  • @callmetravesty8762
    @callmetravesty8762 7 місяців тому

    My limited 5 stars are: Seele, Jing Yuan, DanIL, Sparkle.
    Unfortunately this means I'm probably skipping her for Adventurine.

  • @burgerfk9106
    @burgerfk9106 7 місяців тому

    on the gunaifen , acheron , pela team , if i were to use a gepard instead of fire mc would it still work? gunaifen e0 , acheron e1 , pela e6 , gepard e0 with his light con , also i dont have acheron LC

    • @Ooweeeooo
      @Ooweeeooo 7 місяців тому

      The Gepard or TB is only there to carry Trend of the Universal Market LC. If you don’t have that, then the fourth slot sustain doesn’t matter, I don’t think

  • @JahredJoshRivera-mj1iz
    @JahredJoshRivera-mj1iz 7 місяців тому

    How about welt? In place of silverwolf? Is it not good?

  • @neo1-v9r
    @neo1-v9r 7 місяців тому

    lost on lc banner to welt lc, dont know if i still want to try to get it but i''ll probably just pull on lc until i get gnsw s5 but i still think about hitting it because i have guaranteed so if i get it early its w if i don't i will just wait for other cracked lc

  • @shiroryuichi3762
    @shiroryuichi3762 7 місяців тому

    i dont have sweaty lightcone what should use on pela?
    also for 2nd nihility i have Sampo and Guinaifen who should i use?
    my Acheron is E0S1

    • @sirsuntar8717
      @sirsuntar8717 7 місяців тому

      SW or Tutorial if you have them, otherwise just throw whatever on her.
      Guinaifen is better than Sampo, easier debuff stacking + vulnerability through Firekiss

  • @joeparas
    @joeparas 7 місяців тому

    Is Pela still better if I have e2 SW and e2 sparkle? (And e2 Acheron)
    I'm less concerned about AoE def down when Acheron annihilates non elites anyway.

  • @thomasjml82
    @thomasjml82 7 місяців тому

    Mmm too late. Already bought the light cone. Let’s be friends! lol!

  • @O_RLY
    @O_RLY 7 місяців тому +2

    I swear mr pokke just assumes everyone can read Chinese

  • @ayeterrr
    @ayeterrr 7 місяців тому

    is the final damage increase from her passive unique? iirc theres no other character passive or light cone passive that boosts “final damage”

  • @MrZilvis78
    @MrZilvis78 7 місяців тому +2

    i got cucked by yang again now have a useless e2 yang lol I can still get her in the next 2 or 3 weeks but not her cone so gnsw it is I guess lol