Darkstalker was... *chef's kiss* THE best Wings of Fire book. From the first to last word, every single thing in the book was absolutely perfect. It was dark, well written, and had some SERIOUSLY entertaining plots. I knew from the very start that it would get the highest rank!
100% agreed, I randompy picked up Darkstalker at a friends place after reading Moon Rising, definitely deserved the top spot. And Asassin is my favourite of the Winglet Quartet
I know why people hate Starflight, and its a pretty brutal reason. (spoiler alert for a few of the books)(it's not huge or anything but might as well put it out there) Because he's not special. He has no super cool powers or anything special about him, which is what people like. I mean, Clay has fire proof scales, Tsunami's a princess, Glory is a queen of TWO tribes, Sunny is also a princess and her dad is an animus, Moonwatcher can read minds and see the future, Winter is a prince, Peril is a firescales, Turtle is an animus AND a prince, Qibli's brain is basically a supernatural power of its own, Blue is a flamesilk, Cricket is immune to mind control, Sundew has the most advanced leafspeak in her entire tribe, Snowfall is a queen, and Luna is also a flamesilk. Anyone else see a pattern? Starflight is just your ordinary dragon, no animus powers, no mind-reading, no future seeing, not royalty, he's blind actually. Starflight represents us, the ordinary people, who wish we were more than we are. We dislike that, that we aren't all crazy-powerful and awesome and Starflight is in the same situation, and so we dislike Starflight. The thing we should learn from this is that ordinary people, (or dragons) can still do great things. You don't need to be a queen or an animus or a firescales to be powerful and world changing, Starflight organized a plan for his tribe to survive and live in a new place and get there peacefully in like five seconds, and he didn't use magic or a physical ability like firescales to threaten everyone into agreeing. Starflight might not be on a Qibli-level of smartness, but I would say he's still pretty smart. Just like all of us. Like Starflight, we all have our strengths and our weaknesses, and instead of disliking that, we should respect it.
Dragonslayer is my favorite book in the series and one of my favorite books of all time. Tui changes her writing voice throughout to reflect the time passing in the world (making the third person narration sound juvenile when the characters are young, and making it more sophisticated as the pay grow older). That is so incredible and complex that I legitimately don’t know how she did it. And of course I adore Wren, she’s my second favorite fictional character of all time. She’s just so awesome :)
I wanted MORE! I wanted to see them leave the school and do something! Until the very last chapters, it all felt like build-up for the actual adventure which, to be fair, it was as it was the first book of the arc. Still, you're right - what was there was really really good. As usual, my main complaint with WoF books is that I wanted more of it hahaha
I was actually unsure if I wanted to continue the series after I finished book 5 it felt like a solid conclusion and was satisfied. Gave book 6 a tentative try and... Its my second favorite book only after Darkstalker. The prolouge is so freaking CUTE. The question of wether Darkstalker is evil, the reveal about vengence killing *and* murder because you're backed im a corner, and seeing so much, and using the mimd reading as a story telling device was just... *chef's kiss* It really set up the mistique for book 9 thats for sure.The whole thing is just amazing.
Did anyone else notice that arc 1 and 3 all start with "the"? THE dragonet prophecy THE lost heir THE hidden kingdom THE dark secret THE brightest night THE lost continent THE hive queen THE poison jungle THE dangerous gift THE flames of hope idk I just think its neat :)
How was book 1 ranked so low?? It introduces Peril, one of the most morally questionable, don't approach this topic with a 10 foot stick, *scary* characters. Every scene she is in is just... yiiiieeee. Using the trope "captured and stuck in what seems to be a hopeless scenario" which I just have an unhealthy level of morbid fascination with... That and my morbid fascination with Peril in general. Just... morbid fascination with this book. Though I will agree the first part is a little slow. And that slow Dragonets song scene caught me totally off guard on my recent re-read. One of the rare moments that got me to shed a tear... Really set a pretty dark tone when you think about it, and part of why Darkstalker is so loved by this fan base. If you liked book 1's... trauma? Then you'd love Darkstalkers... OK I need a better word for that. Nothing about watching someone forcibly rip their guts out should be anywhere near the word love, but that scene is the *definition* of morbid and the power it holds over the reader is... astonishing. I too just sat around and ppaced a lot questioning life after finishing Darkstalker, and I doubt we're alone.
Dang, I really need to do a better job of convincing my mom to get me legends darkstalker… I’ve been ranting about wings of fire a lot and I think it’s annoying her…
@@uhhi1439 Yes sir! Be sure to fresken up on the ending of Book 8, and those moments in 9 when Turtle watches him having a moment. Makes everything *hurt* when you start reading Darkstalker its just so well written.
My personal favorite was Qibili's and Tsunami's. I don't know why, but I enjoyed seeing Qibili's because he had been one of my favorites for awhile, (or since Moon's book) But I also enjoyed seeing his thought process and side to the story. Tsunami's was entertaining, I enjoyed the mystery and excitement in her book. I enjoyed all of the books, but those will always top them 🎉 Qibili was just an enjoyable character tbh, I'm not surprised he made it into A+ tier 🤭💕
Darkstalker legends is just a masterpiece. The writing is FANTASTIC, the characters are FANTASTIC, Overall this book is……A COMPLETE HEART DESTROYER! You will cry VERY HARD! it’s so beautiful and sad. A MUST READ.
@@JadeMountainArchive hey! Sorry to bother you but I’m posting a video of me drawing the Sonas of different Wof UA-camrs! I wanted to include you if that’s ok. You don’t really have a sona tho. I could draw I picture of qibli holding a sigh that says jma on it? Lolll. Let me know if you want me to draw something specific for the video (:
@@horizontreasures7701 Go for it! I don't have a youtube OC yet, but if if you take a look at a "community" post I made a few weeks back, there's lots of ideas on what one might look like!
Darkstalker was LIFE-CHANGING. I’m still so profoundly affected by that book. I’ve recommended it to everyone I know, including people who don’t typically read. It touched such a deep level of interpersonal (interdragonal??) relationships and politics that it stood up to every test of genre trope subversion. Tui accomplished more character development in that comparatively short book than maaany authors have in long, drawn-out series. You really develop a relationship with all of them and all have layers upon layers of faults and virtues. The love story was among the most tragic I’ve come across, which is saying something. It will stay with me forever. Anyway, couldn’t agree more regarding books 4 and 14! My daughter didn’t care for them but I really enjoyed them. ❤️ Dragonslayer I thoroughly enjoyed-it was fascinating tying known events into different perspectives, plus Sweetface/Cereus. 🤣 loved her. ❤️ And I’m telling you-that poor goof Scarlet rejected at snack time in Clay’s book was Mushroom. 🤣
I feel like book nine really helps us understand more about Gill and the royal sea wing family. My favorite book is honestly six though. AND OMG BOOK FOUR IS AMAZING HOW IS IT SO LOW?! I also agree that winter turning has some great character development. I also freaking love book eight JUST BECAUSE OF CHAMELEON! I really think chameleon should get a legends book with kestrel. Darstalker legends deserves it’s high place! It really helps us understand night wing and sea wing history
Six I think is my favorite to cause like it's the first time it's like relatable cause there at school also I read that one first (don't judge me) but I did so it holds a special place in my heart
The Lost Heir so underrated it explored a colorful undersea world with different way of communicating via aquatic, the first sweet(ly psychotic)mom/queen and tsunami development woooo! also riptide cuz i love him
8:31 I'll be honest with you all; I don't mind the Humans in WOF. I understand that the humans in Dragonslayer were bland and I will give credit to that but I loved it because to me, on a different level of thinking, Tui nailed the thoughts about us, living in a dragon world. I can give out a long, philosophical speech and try to convince you guys to give the scavengers a second chance, but I'm not going to do that. One reason I liked this book is how Tui changed the game via humanity. To me, it's nice to see humans get some nice book treatment, but I hope Tui doesn't forget what this series is about: Dragons. The whole theme I can see about Dragonslayer is the ignorance of all races and other species, social corruption, and falsehood, and living in a world where man must fight against one thing or another: Survival against Dragons or man itself. And I think the best way we can see those themes is Sky and Wren. Why am I telling you this? I believe that we will get an Arc 4 that will involve humans and dragons, one I believe in which Sky will face a great dilemma about his morals. Will Sky stay loyal to his human family and play the villain to his kind, regardless of what fate has done? Or will he rejoin thee Dragon races to prove he is a dragon? To me, Tui is setting the stage and Sky is going to witness the anthem of a revival. That's my ted talk, sorry for boring y'all. On a side note, Jade Mountain Archives, the way I feel about Sky can be best described by how you feel about Qibli 🤣. Expect me to go gaga about Sky whenever I comment on your vids. Love your work.
I was honestly surprised that Darkness of Dragons was ranked so high? I thought there were a lot more people that disliked this book but I guess those opinions have fizzled out. In my opinion though, DoD is one of the more messier WoF books. Tui wanted to do so much that it ends up making parts of the book extremely disconnected, and the ending has a lot to be desired. The first half with the Vulture and Onyx plot comes out of left field, and doesn’t really give you a satisfying conclusion, Vulture is just dropped entirely and never heard from again in the series, and Onyx had a lot of potential, but wasn’t used properly. Winter’s character also just gets so much worse. He’s under a spell for the first part so it’s understandable why he acts the way he does, but it’s shown that he’s STILL NOT OVER MOON for some reason, which just forces more love triangle stuff which nobody likes, and then completely regresses in his character arc when he chooses to fight for the Icewings. Then he’s just not told about Darkstalker??? Tui’s the author, so she was the person who decided that Winter shouldn’t be there for Darkstalker’s defeat (and by extension Peril and Turtle for some reason), and I just can’t understand why???? But he doesn’t know, and then Kinkajou basically tells him “we’re not gonna tell you because you’re an asshole”, so yeah, nice healthy friendship there no red flags at all. Then the Peacemaker stuff is just weird. It’s more of a reward for Foeslayer and not a punishment for Darkstalker, it punishes him but it doesn’t condemn him for his actions in a satisfying way. Rest of the book is good though. It’s not my favourite but it’s a good read. If this were my list I’d put it in B tier tbh (not the bottom though, cause there’s some books that I just outright hate).
Yeah, I'll agree the first half was weird and winter's character was treated unfortunately. But the rest of it was really fun imo - and we got Moonbli content so liiiiiiiiiike, what can I say? I just love to see it.
yeah, dod wasnt really memorable for me the only parts that i really liked were the things involving darkstalker or the other characters, ive never liked qibli personally
In my opinion my favorite books are The Talons Of Power and Darkstalker. I just really like the animus fight and Darkstalker was just so good all around
i literally had just finished reading darkstalker for probably the 5th time before i watched this, and i could not agree more with its placement. it's by far my favorite book of the series and i just wish it was twice as long so i could savor it a little longer. it's fascinating, brilliantly written, gives you all the highs and lows emotionally, and you connect and relate to and feel along with all of the perspectives, even including darkstalker. i personally love stories that show us the origins of villains (at least ones that do it well), and this book took that and ran a marathon with it, not even mentioning the tragedy and the amazing themes and characters. it's incredible and i'd recommend it to everyone even slightly interested in the series.
I read Darkstalker right before Book ten as a kind of break from the main story and I could not have done it more perfectly on time. On the last page there was a Post Epilogue and I quote: "Centuries later, as the dragon planet spun through space, a comet passed by, close enough to shine like a fourth moon in Phyrrhia's sky. Close enough to change the tides and shake the continents. As earthquakes rumbled through the ground long-buried rocks shifted that had been in place for thousands of years. Deep underground, in the darkness, copper wires snapped. *And a dragon awoke...* That is the definition of suspense, setting up and straight up good writing. It built up suspense for the remainder of Arc two for anyone who read Darkstalker before it. It forshadows the return of Darkstalker. And the discription is perfect. Get Tui an award for this!
“Turtle hiding” and this, my good friends, is where I died laughing. What’s Evernote funnier is the personalities of turtle and moon combined = me. I’m pretty much moon with turtle’s nervousness and cowardice…
At the start of this video, I was expecting for Darkstalker to be underrated as it was in the tier rating, but when it was put in S...as satisfying as the book itself! The heartbreak, warmth, and betrayal? PUT THAT BOOK WHERE IT BELONGS
Honestly I checked the comments and I didn’t see MANY people who’s favorite is book 13 with SNUDOO but it’s my fav! I also loved The Hidden Kingdom (book 3) and Darkness of Dragons (book 10)
I mean, I kinda liked Starflights book, but the only reason why I don’t personally like it is because how sometimes he just annoyed me a bit because of how scared he was. But he got better in book six ig.
Darkstalker was just amazing it’s most favorite wings of fire book and nothing I would change about it the characters it’s just written perfectly. Clearisght is very amazing and interesting to read about,and especially about her strong foresight powers. Her powers seem to stress her a bit sense she wants to make whatever vision,she got got right or either perfectly and in this scene she is talking about her soulmate. When her and Darkstalker finally met they have a joyful talk,and start already talking about there future together, saying they would make it come true until ClearSight Sees the horrible visions dark would do,but tried not think about it as much but it still bother, and worried her. When Dark had made a scroll just for clearsight to see she didn’t know to feel about, but thought it could work and at least trusted him so maybe he wouldn’t lose his soul. When she became the Queens top Seeger she worried more about her Beloved because of the queens intentions, for the ice wings and didn’t need him to lose his soul more. When he tried to convince Fathom to use his power ClearSight understood why, Fathom didn’t sense she knew what the Seawing been through because of her visions. When she say Dark becoming more corrupted by his magic she never ever thought her beloved would give her an,earring to prevent her from seeing the bad visions which should found out,and probably hurt by that. When it came time to the end of the book had to make a hard decision to try and keep saving dark,but also there happy future together or the safety of the world. When she finally put the bracelet on him she felt so hurt that she had to betray her beloved , but knew that’s what she had to do. ClearSight is just a Character you feel kinda sorry for having to do a lot and even betray her beloved but also having to help the world. Fathom okay you can only feel just sorry,and feel for this sea wing after everything he went through in this book. I mean he had to find out he was a animus something he knew his uncles was, and knowing they lose there souls. Having to find out the story about how his uncle become an animus in a very disturbing way, and then having to watch his family get murder by his own uncle. Then having to kill his uncle and almost indigo his best friend, and having to lie about he really killed him to also be treated differently by most of the sea wings. I bet that was hard for him so that’s when he swore he wouldn’t use his powers ever he feared her would become like his uncle. The worse thing for him was when Pearl told him to stay away from indigo. I bet that was tough and hard for him cause he loved indigo Dearly, and missed the conversation they had. But he had to because he kept a promise to pearl to not go near her cause pearl was afraid if they had dragonets that the animus gene,could be passed on, and nothing happening like this to the seawings again. When he Mets Dark and Clear he seems pretty alright with them when finding out Dark also has animus magic her fears for his friend not using it to much,and becoming like his uncle. When he found out that indigo was gone he felt sadden by the fact of it but still had Dark and Clear with him. Even when dark try to convince him to use his magic her still feared for the worst about what could happen to him and his Soul. When he had heard Dark was going mad,and needed something to keep him at bay and the safety of the world he ended up enchanting a bracelet with his magic after a while. He probably felt upset that he had to betray his friend but only did it for the safety of the world, but in the end he at least got to spend his time with indigo and there dragonets. Fathom is very interesting to read about cause he goes through so much, but still gets a happy end and not becoming like his uncle or his Friend Darkstalker. Darkstalker the dragon himself the most powerful dragon the world would know. When reading about it him he seems to have not the best life. Having to Hear his parents arguing every single day, having to help and comfort his sister, and also trying to help clear sight stay away from the bad visions she had. Darkstalker and Arctic never got along he never liked his father yes,but he didn’t want you be like him he thought Arctic soul was already gone enough. He always thought his dad was the problem and why there family could never be happy. Darkstalker had also tried to help Clear with her visions and telling her that they would get there happy future together,and she didn’t have to worry. When she kept seeing them he kept trying to Manipulate her to think other things, but instead enchanted her an earring so she didn’t have to stress or be so worried about his soul. When he found out the His mother hope was taking he was upset and angry. When trying to find his dad,and wherever he was taking he finally found them,and was angry at him blaming him for why hope was captured. Though Arctic was only trying to get her back seeing that Arctic really still loved her. Even arctic couldn’t kill his own son even if he didn’t show much ice wing traits he still couldn’t kill him, but in the end his own son needed Up killing him which lead to his 2000 year sleep. In DOD (not the first book) he didn’t want to change or change who he was he thought he was doing good in the world,and not evil. When he finally Mets his mother again after 2000 years he sobs because he never thought he would see her again. When his mother tried to convince him he still didn’t want to cause he liked who he was. But when he ate the strawberry he felt betrayed by moon and his mom asking her “mother I’m a good dragon right not evil?” I bet that hurt Hope to hear those word for her son, but she knew he was to dangerous for this world. When he turns into to peacemaker hope only says “his fate could’ve been different if she chosen a name like peace maker. Which wraps up for Darkstalker a character a liked a lot and so with his friends. I enjoyed reading legends of Darkstalker cause of how in-depth the characters are and the story line, it’s mixed with emotions,sadness,betrayal, and everything else. It definitely deserved its ranking honestly, I was surprised most books got B+ mostly the dark secret maybe have to rant on that honestly cause the book is amazing. Arc 2 books I wasn’t to surprised about there rankings maybe Dod (not the first book) sense I felt like it could’ve been written so much better sam with escaping peril a bit and winter turning but I couldn’t change anything about winters sense I can’t change the amazing character development he had in his book. Moon rising I wouldn’t change anything about it sense it’s written perfectly and same with talons of power. But jade think it’s time you show some people how amazing StarFlight is honestly.
Amazing essay Rowan. And Starflight truly is great :D I totally agree that his book, Moon's book, and Winter's character development was really fun to read!
@@JadeMountainArchive thanks jade I appreciate it! It’s so sad to see my favorite arc 1 character get like no attention when his book is truly amazing. people really miss the great things Star did for the rainforest and his friends. But hopefully I can get this comment out about how truly amazing Star is and how he reflects us in reality cause I feel like some of the characters if not all kinds reflect what we wish we could kinda be or reflect are personality. If there is one dragons personality I would want it’s qibils I am a loyal member of the qibil fan club 👹
ngl ive never liked qibli lmao hes a mary sue imo, the only explaination being 'he grew up in the scorpion den so hes allowed to be dragonet sherlock holmes' he got everything with no struggle, his only conflict really being 'woah im like darkstalker' which i feel would have worked much better with an icewing or nightwing personally, & this conflict never really made sense imo because the only similarities between the two is that theyre 'smart' & want/have animus he just feels really bland tbh
I'm so glad to see Darkness of Dragons getting a high rating. I was starting to think I was one of the few on this planet that really enjoyed it (coming from someone who originally hated on and downright refused to read it for sometime). Yes, it's littered with flaws and wasted potential, and Darkstalker's fate could have been executed a little better, but I loved Qibli's side plot (the book made him one of my favorite characters), the Nightwing-Icewing battle and how it ended was awesome, Moon got together with Qibli, and I love how nearly everything came together in the end. If it weren't for those last few paragraphs, I think it could have been a decent ending to the series. That being said, Darkstalker is still the best Wings of Fire book hands down, for all the reasons everyone stated already. The one, Darkness of Dragons, and The Hidden Kingdom are my Top 3 favorites (I think, I'm still working on that) I am sad to see Escaping Peril and The Lost Heir down so low since I also loved them, but oh well. Sadly, I tried to give Dragonslayer a chance, and I almost fell asleep. I couldn't get into it for the life of me.
i stopped reading and keeping up with the series when the first arc ended. but now after finding this channel, my brain has decided to dig back up this obsession and YEET me into the hole. crazy to think that was 5 years ago! (i had already known there were different kinds of dragons after seeing the lost continent cover years ago, but it still blows my mind!!)
I feel like The lost continent and Talons of Power should have been higher rated, because they explain so much! Darkstalker’s back story and the way Turtle uses his animus powers makes the whole story a lot better. The lost continent explains how there are new types of dragons from a different world, and that made the book interesting and fascinating to read.
I loved The Dark Secret and think it's under appreciated. The cliffhanger at the end almost had me crying too lol. I would say the same for Winter Turning but I understand why people hate it.
In my personal opinion I think the fans might be a little too harsh on Dragonslayer, for the simple reason being that Tui established early on that the humans were not so different from dragons, and the dragons were slowly starting to come to understand them (difficult as it was), so I felt that it was nice to see things from the human's perspective. Plus it did a good job of following the points it needed, so I felt like it deserved to be higher than that.
Just felt like I had to point this out, I think one of the biggest reasons why Dragonslayer was made for a potential Arc 4. To me, if we ever get a book about Sky's perspective, Sky would learn that Humans and Dragons aren't so different after all but both races are too ignorant to realize that. My theory is that somewhere down the like Sky's morals will be challenged and where his loyalty lies (whether he is loyal to his human family or his dragon kind). I thought I had to say that and I'm sorry if this isn't irreverent to the conversation. Thanks for the ted talk
Hi! I loved this video I love ur tear list!! My favorite character is sunny and my fav book is IDK!! TO MANY GOOD ONES!! Also I’m here for ur ROAD TO 10k!!!
Hi JMA, just got back from a road trip to the northshore of lake superior! I got back and saw a new realese from you and got so excited!!! I just finished rating the next tierlist! ALSO WINTER TURNING WAS THE BEST BOOK! NOT BIASED DONT LOOK AT MY LAST COMMENTS TO FACT CHECK THAT!
All sets of novels were good. The ones for the dragonet prophecy gave me the most nostalgia out of all it. Winter's, Tsunami's, and Sunny's have to be my favs but its hard to pick - also the Hive Queen, Talons of Power and Moon Rising... Ok, soon I'm gonna start listing all of them lol
Honestly, I don't think I could choose a favorite out of all the books! In arc 1, I think my favorite book was definitely The dark secret and The hidden kingdom. In arc 2, my favorites are probably all of them lol! Especially Moon rising, Winter turning, and Escaping Peril. In arc 3, my favorites are the poison jungle and The dangerous gift. For the legends, I am currently reading Dragon slayer and I honestly really love it! I was super shocked Tui made a book with human perspectives, it was pretty cool especially with the 3 different point of views. But the other two legends I haven't read yet, so I can't say which one is my favorite yet.
I actually own the “wings of fire forge your dragon world” book, I got it from a Barnes and nobles book store. Btw it was hilarious when you said “maybe like hiding turtle”. Me: *bursts out laughing when you said that* hahaha *wipes a tear of laughter of my face after the third time i rewatched it* never gets old, never gets old
I wish I could say that Darkstalker made me cry because OH MY GOD. IT WAS SO FREAKING SAD. Also, it resulted in some top tier maps and animations. Darkstalker and Clearsight, while I wish it worked out, I know the book wouldn't be very good if it did. The tragedy, in my opinion, made it even better. Darkstalker deserves its position in S tier. Thank you for coming to my TED talk.
The plot got so *Thiccc* you could- you c- you… (ok I don’t know where I was going with that.) Truly the most underrated creator in all of UA-cam (/srs)
Basically every The Lost Continent arc book was my favorite. Along with Darkstalker and Escapring Peril. I just like learning about how the different tribes cultures and ways of living, along with the history of the Pyrrhia which arc 3 did a good job on along with themes of the story. I just wish Lady Scarab became Queen though. The Hive Queen was really interesting to read because of the Jewel Hive. I want to live there so bad.
I was so surprised when a few books rated in B tier but darkstalker definitely deserved it and I didn’t really like escaping peril. Brightest night was really good and it wasn’t just because Qibli was introduced into the WOF world. I also picked up on that poetic writing of the darkness of dragons and the 2 parts of book 10 and 6 and it was so suspenseful. Omg you are soooo close to 10k you deserve it so much for your work and how amazing these videos there are. Anyone who is reading this comment and aren’t subscribe you HAVE TO. Ok bye and Qibli is the best
its my favorite by far. its literally just perfection with more details on perils childhood / backstory and all of the suspense with chameleon. and the resolution was such a cliff hanger that it did not feel like a resolution. and cliff is such a cutie. its pains me to see people under appreciating this masterpiece. and it drives my FAVORITE SHIP so far (clay x peril). i also might be biased since two of my fav characters are very vital to the book (queen scarlet and peril)
Qiblis is definitely my favorite. I think Darkstalker is second. I can’t believe the b tier! There were some books in there that I thought would be higher! Anyways great video man!!
HOLY SMOKIN' WAFFLES I literally just realized your at 9.69k subs! So happy for you, JMA!!! I can't believe that it felt like just yesterday when, last I checked, it was at 4k! You're so close to 10k, and I wish you all the best for the future....(also, you're going to give us a 10K treat, right? For being the world's best supporters?)
Hahaha, don't you worry - 10k will be a big channel update :D It won't all happen at once, as I've got a lot going on behind the scenes to get it ready but rest assured there will be fun things!
My fav books are the Poison Jungle, Darkness of Dragons,Moon Rising, and Darkstalker. Im so glad that Darkstalker got rated S tier. Even though its a sad story in the end I really liked it.
boo scavengers. I skipped most of dragon slayer I only read wren and sky's part the first time I read it, but reread it through and through and I still only remember wren and sky's part.
I was a big fan of Warriors for a long time, but quickly lost interest after the fourth arc. Omen of the stars was a great conclusion, and we didn't need the any of the books after it. And I don't like the characters from the later books. Wings of Fire is much better in many aspects. FYI: I know this doesn't have anything to do with WoF, but you mentioned it so I thought I'd talk about it. (P.S: did you know there are over 100 Warriors books? That's just ridiculous. )
I think my favorite book is either The Lost Continent or Talons of power. I kind of understand how some people wouldn’t like them much, but the books had small moments for me that made me enjoy them so much. In book 9, Turtle finally gets to be recognized by his mother, and it’s very heartwarming to me, because he’s carried guilt from not being able to help his father as a small dragonet, and he just…gets his moment! In book 11, when I read the book of Clearsight, it just…made me cry. Not sure why. Every time I read it I cry. I honestly can’t explain how I feel about it, but the message Clearsight left behind is just *Chef’s kiss* That’s all I had to say, thanks for reading :)
honestly winter turning is extremely underrated. its really good and the character development is just soo good. moon doesn't deserve winter. he sacrificed everything for her.
I can't believe how underrated book four is personally that one was my second favorite from arc 1 I cants say anything about the rest bc I have not read them yet
Moon is the worst character in the whole series, even though its hard to say.... Shes worse than Whirlpool. I absolutely despise her. What was Tui thinking? Moons just the center of attention. But this is just my honest opinion.
Not him obsessing over Qibli’s book ❤😂 Also, I’d like to point out, it’s interesting that all the legends go by the title DS DarkStalker, DragonSlayer. Just interesting. Was that intentional?
The order I read the series in (strangely enough I realize now) was: 1. Dragonslayer 2. Legends: Darkstalker Then months later I picked up books 1-15 and the winglets, and I have to say- REREADING LEGENDS: DARKSTALKER BROKE ME. Reading it the first time before any of the main series books left me with 0 expectations, bias, or context when approaching it so I feel that it gave me a unique perspective on the 2nd arc. Reading it as a stand alone book still got me so emotional! (I did not understand the post-epilogue whatsoever and the Seawing Massacre was a SHOCKER lol.) When I first read book 6, I jokingly guessed Moon had been hearing Darkstalker’s voice and you can imagine how surprised I was it was actually him. Him telling Moon selective parts of his story was super interesting to me and really kicked at my memory which was super foggy. Darkstalker crying over Clearsight in book 9 shattered so much tension and wrenched my heart out and so did the resolution of book 10 when I realized he was close to finding out about the lost continent and Clearsight’s life. Rereading Legends: Darkstalker was such an emotional rollercoaster because I was constantly DREADING the inevitable crumbling of Darkstalker and Clearsight’s future. At the same time, every happy scene between them was so indescribably heartwarming and every time Darkstalker made a horrible decision or something happened to wedge them apart it totally broke my heart. The ending was more satisfying that I originally remembered in the sense that I completely forgot Clearsight and Darkstalker’s last conversation and how he saw a stream of her mind, falling sleep knowing that she loved him dearly and didn’t betray him out of hatred, which was comforting. It also hit me really hard when Clearsight thought to herself that maybe she should just wait to die in the avalanche. I didn’t know she mean it so literally in the line “I thought my life was over” in the Book of Clearsight. The way the book showcased her immense grief was kind of comforting because I thought she totally moved on from Darkstalker without a second thought to be with those Silkwings and he was the only one missing her. I’m also grateful that Clearsight finally confronted Darkstalker with all of his mistakes and flaws such as lying to her and being arrogant which he absolutely needed to hear. (Too bad he didn’t consider what she said and change for arc 2…) I’m also glad that Fathom left the story believing that Darkstalker did in fact do some good things and have a heart instead of regarding him as pure evil which I felt would not have allowed the book to end full circle so poetically. In conclusion, I found Legends: Darkstalker to be AMAZING (rightfully S tier)! The beginning and middle of the book gave me so many powerful highs and lows and the ending was so encompassing. Reading it before ever reading the series and then again after gave me a whole new appreciation for this genius book and arcs 2 and 3. That said I wish it was infinitely longer (with the same quality)… and my heart needs to recover forever… (Had to get this off my chest somewhere 😅)
I read Darkstalker's book recently and it was mind breaking to say the least. When I opened that book I thought I'd get to see Darkstalker's evil scheming from the egg, not... not such DEEP stuff. This book made think so much that I was mentally EXHAUSTED when I finished it (I tend to hyperfocus and read a book all at once). I wouldn't change a single thing about it. It was written with the right POV. Having the main character not be Darkstalker to tell his story, and a character that can see more than any other, put, in my opinion, an incredible depth in the story and in Darkstalker's character. You get just the right amount of information and character development. UGH. And the epilogue makes it even better. It concludes the theme of the book with Fathom saying he didn't think Darkstalker was bad, but did bad things. That part where he read the spells on the parchment felt really powerful to me, too. It really proves that people are complicated, not everything is white and black. The whole book surfed those shades of grey and it was astounding I could go on for hours. Overall I just think it is PERFECTION.
The Dragonet Prophecy, The Lost Heir, The Hidden Kingdom, The Dark Secret, The Brightest Night, Winter Turning, Escaping Peril, The Hive Queen, and The Poison Jungle are the best.
YES I LOVE DARKSTALKER! That book actually taught me how to draw, the cover of it. I also remember feeling really disturbed by it because I was young lol but I still loved it so much and I wouldn’t be drawing right now if it weren’t for that book. It deserves S tier 🥰
I've read darkstalker legends 4 times and I'm an emotional reck :') my favorite book in the world and it brings me so much happy, but broken feelings that throb in my chest for days. It hits harder the second or third time you read it. You notice smaller things. You listen to it and listen to clearsight amd darkstalker being so happy, but whilst knowing what lies ahead and how it'll all crumble and break and shower down and bury its raindrops in the dirt and never come back. Its so sad but I love it for some reason. And OH MY GOSH I'm a SUCKER for clearsight! I love how shes writen out and a bit anxious, I love how she plays her role SO FREAKING WELL!! I lover how she mourned her dragonets that were never born. Eclipse was the most mentioned dragonet and certainly would have been an amazing thing to hear about if she had becom a reality. Vigilance is certainly my least favorite queen bc of how she snapped darkstalker. I also hate arctic for leaving with whiteout at the same time. Darkstalker didn't deserve all of that piled on towering above him like agot mountain- which crumbled with him in it.
Excited to see any new video of yours as always! I just scrolled through your channel to rewatch some of your tier list videos, but as far as I can tell, they all appear to be gone? I don’t know if it’s just my UA-cam glitching out, or if something happened to them…?
Noooo the lost content was sooooo good. But blue is my favorite character. I love the way he thinks, and i loved seeing him develop affection for cricket. I love how it expanded the lore, normally i wouldn't want something this expansive if you the author hadn't yet filled out what was already established but it was introduced soooo well! And I love how silk wings work and i wished they would have explored them more. And the sense of optimism within oppression was amazing! It doesn't have to be a+ but like high b or low a
Book 9 is actually one of my favorites, I could relate with Turtle a lot. And the final chapters were a rollercoaster of emotions. The scene with Coral is still my favorite of the whole series.
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Darkstalker was... *chef's kiss* THE best Wings of Fire book. From the first to last word, every single thing in the book was absolutely perfect. It was dark, well written, and had some SERIOUSLY entertaining plots. I knew from the very start that it would get the highest rank!
100% agreed, I randompy picked up Darkstalker at a friends place after reading Moon Rising, definitely deserved the top spot. And Asassin is my favourite of the Winglet Quartet
You are correct, voted 10/10.
Yeah that book is pitch perfect
the best book in the series. 100%
loved it
I will never understand why The Dark Secret is put at the bottom of these lists. That book is outstanding.
thank you for having the right opinion
Right???
the dark secret made me love the series-
Yeah, and, Jade Mountain Archive, the song you wrote made it better :DDD
Yeah I agree it's unfair the book isn't bad itself and starflights character really isn't bad either
I know why people hate Starflight, and its a pretty brutal reason. (spoiler alert for a few of the books)(it's not huge or anything but might as well put it out there)
Because he's not special. He has no super cool powers or anything special about him, which is what people like. I mean, Clay has fire proof scales, Tsunami's a princess, Glory is a queen of TWO tribes, Sunny is also a princess and her dad is an animus, Moonwatcher can read minds and see the future, Winter is a prince, Peril is a firescales, Turtle is an animus AND a prince, Qibli's brain is basically a supernatural power of its own, Blue is a flamesilk, Cricket is immune to mind control, Sundew has the most advanced leafspeak in her entire tribe, Snowfall is a queen, and Luna is also a flamesilk. Anyone else see a pattern? Starflight is just your ordinary dragon, no animus powers, no mind-reading, no future seeing, not royalty, he's blind actually. Starflight represents us, the ordinary people, who wish we were more than we are. We dislike that, that we aren't all crazy-powerful and awesome and Starflight is in the same situation, and so we dislike Starflight. The thing we should learn from this is that ordinary people, (or dragons) can still do great things. You don't need to be a queen or an animus or a firescales to be powerful and world changing, Starflight organized a plan for his tribe to survive and live in a new place and get there peacefully in like five seconds, and he didn't use magic or a physical ability like firescales to threaten everyone into agreeing. Starflight might not be on a Qibli-level of smartness, but I would say he's still pretty smart. Just like all of us. Like Starflight, we all have our strengths and our weaknesses, and instead of disliking that, we should respect it.
Love this! 100% agree!
Wow, I liked starflight before this, but wasn't able to articulate why, thank you for opening my eyes further!
He is the best character and I think he is equal with quibli in intelligence. Still amazing👏 speech
i didn’t expect a philosophical essay on why being normal is ok
Agreed
Dragonslayer is my favorite book in the series and one of my favorite books of all time. Tui changes her writing voice throughout to reflect the time passing in the world (making the third person narration sound juvenile when the characters are young, and making it more sophisticated as the pay grow older). That is so incredible and complex that I legitimately don’t know how she did it. And of course I adore Wren, she’s my second favorite fictional character of all time. She’s just so awesome :)
I remember being irritated by Wren's narration at first, then noticed it was changing. It's amazing how Tui did that.
lol nerd
Dragon slayer is my favorite 😍😍😍😍
"Happy yum friends?"
"Eat dragons no thank you."
"Happy us?"
"More happy you them?"
"No no no more more more happy you me us all the days."
Moon Rising was written with perfection from front to back if you ask me. There isn’t a single thing I would change about it.
I wanted MORE! I wanted to see them leave the school and do something! Until the very last chapters, it all felt like build-up for the actual adventure which, to be fair, it was as it was the first book of the arc. Still, you're right - what was there was really really good. As usual, my main complaint with WoF books is that I wanted more of it hahaha
@@JadeMountainArchive same omg I loved the school theme
@@JadeMountainArchive very understandable XD
I was actually unsure if I wanted to continue the series after I finished book 5 it felt like a solid conclusion and was satisfied.
Gave book 6 a tentative try and...
Its my second favorite book only after Darkstalker. The prolouge is so freaking CUTE. The question of wether Darkstalker is evil, the reveal about vengence killing *and* murder because you're backed im a corner, and seeing so much, and using the mimd reading as a story telling device was just... *chef's kiss*
It really set up the mistique for book 9 thats for sure.The whole thing is just amazing.
YES!!!! MOON RISING IS MY FAVORITE BOOK AND MOON IS MY FAVORITE CHARACTER! PREACH!!!!!!!!
Did anyone else notice that arc 1 and 3 all start with "the"?
THE dragonet prophecy
THE lost heir
THE hidden kingdom
THE dark secret
THE brightest night
THE lost continent
THE hive queen
THE poison jungle
THE dangerous gift
THE flames of hope
idk I just think its neat :)
yeah i realized that, if we get a fourth arc i don’t think they will start with “the” though, similar to arc 2
Yo I thought I was the only one lol
You spelt Dragonet as Dragonite the Pokemon lol
@@Auourlia oops XD fixed
I noticed
How was book 1 ranked so low??
It introduces Peril, one of the most morally questionable, don't approach this topic with a 10 foot stick, *scary* characters. Every scene she is in is just... yiiiieeee.
Using the trope "captured and stuck in what seems to be a hopeless scenario" which I just have an unhealthy level of morbid fascination with...
That and my morbid fascination with Peril in general.
Just... morbid fascination with this book.
Though I will agree the first part is a little slow.
And that slow Dragonets song scene caught me totally off guard on my recent re-read. One of the rare moments that got me to shed a tear...
Really set a pretty dark tone when you think about it, and part of why Darkstalker is so loved by this fan base.
If you liked book 1's... trauma? Then you'd love Darkstalkers...
OK I need a better word for that. Nothing about watching someone forcibly rip their guts out should be anywhere near the word love, but that scene is the *definition* of morbid and the power it holds over the reader is... astonishing.
I too just sat around and ppaced a lot questioning life after finishing Darkstalker, and I doubt we're alone.
I agree! I loved The Dragonet Prophecy's world building. I can still see why some people may think that it's a little weak, though.
Dang, I really need to do a better job of convincing my mom to get me legends darkstalker… I’ve been ranting about wings of fire a lot and I think it’s annoying her…
@@uhhi1439 Yes sir!
Be sure to fresken up on the ending of Book 8, and those moments in 9 when Turtle watches him having a moment. Makes everything *hurt* when you start reading Darkstalker its just so well written.
My personal favorite was Qibili's and Tsunami's. I don't know why, but I enjoyed seeing Qibili's because he had been one of my favorites for awhile, (or since Moon's book) But I also enjoyed seeing his thought process and side to the story. Tsunami's was entertaining, I enjoyed the mystery and excitement in her book. I enjoyed all of the books, but those will always top them 🎉
Qibili was just an enjoyable character tbh, I'm not surprised he made it into A+ tier 🤭💕
"Qibli was just an enjoyable character" - big FACT.
@@JadeMountainArchive HUGE fact
Same
also its spelled Qibli not Qibili but very close :)
@@JadeMountainArchive Where is the characters tier list?(or UA-cam hide it?)
@@Sheldren2 It was causing some issues so I took it down - I'll remake it some day though!
Darkstalker legends is just a masterpiece. The writing is FANTASTIC, the characters are FANTASTIC, Overall this book is……A COMPLETE HEART DESTROYER! You will cry VERY HARD! it’s so beautiful and sad. A MUST READ.
Agreed.
@@JadeMountainArchive hey! Sorry to bother you but I’m posting a video of me drawing the Sonas of different Wof UA-camrs! I wanted to include you if that’s ok. You don’t really have a sona tho. I could draw I picture of qibli holding a sigh that says jma on it? Lolll. Let me know if you want me to draw something specific for the video (:
@@horizontreasures7701 Go for it! I don't have a youtube OC yet, but if if you take a look at a "community" post I made a few weeks back, there's lots of ideas on what one might look like!
@@JadeMountainArchive ooo ok! I’ll put it in part two!!
Darkstalker was LIFE-CHANGING. I’m still so profoundly affected by that book. I’ve recommended it to everyone I know, including people who don’t typically read. It touched such a deep level of interpersonal (interdragonal??) relationships and politics that it stood up to every test of genre trope subversion. Tui accomplished more character development in that comparatively short book than maaany authors have in long, drawn-out series. You really develop a relationship with all of them and all have layers upon layers of faults and virtues. The love story was among the most tragic I’ve come across, which is saying something. It will stay with me forever. Anyway, couldn’t agree more regarding books 4 and 14! My daughter didn’t care for them but I really enjoyed them. ❤️ Dragonslayer I thoroughly enjoyed-it was fascinating tying known events into different perspectives, plus Sweetface/Cereus. 🤣 loved her. ❤️ And I’m telling you-that poor goof Scarlet rejected at snack time in Clay’s book was Mushroom. 🤣
I feel like book nine really helps us understand more about Gill and the royal sea wing family. My favorite book is honestly six though. AND OMG BOOK FOUR IS AMAZING HOW IS IT SO LOW?! I also agree that winter turning has some great character development. I also freaking love book eight JUST BECAUSE OF CHAMELEON! I really think chameleon should get a legends book with kestrel. Darstalker legends deserves it’s high place! It really helps us understand night wing and sea wing history
IKR I MEAN whAT (dragonslayer, moon rising, and flames of hope were my fav)
Six I think is my favorite to cause like it's the first time it's like relatable cause there at school also I read that one first (don't judge me) but I did so it holds a special place in my heart
The Lost Heir so underrated it explored a colorful undersea world with different way of communicating via aquatic, the first sweet(ly psychotic)mom/queen and tsunami development woooo! also riptide cuz i love him
8:31 I'll be honest with you all; I don't mind the Humans in WOF. I understand that the humans in Dragonslayer were bland and I will give credit to that but I loved it because to me, on a different level of thinking, Tui nailed the thoughts about us, living in a dragon world. I can give out a long, philosophical speech and try to convince you guys to give the scavengers a second chance, but I'm not going to do that. One reason I liked this book is how Tui changed the game via humanity. To me, it's nice to see humans get some nice book treatment, but I hope Tui doesn't forget what this series is about: Dragons. The whole theme I can see about Dragonslayer is the ignorance of all races and other species, social corruption, and falsehood, and living in a world where man must fight against one thing or another: Survival against Dragons or man itself. And I think the best way we can see those themes is Sky and Wren.
Why am I telling you this? I believe that we will get an Arc 4 that will involve humans and dragons, one I believe in which Sky will face a great dilemma about his morals. Will Sky stay loyal to his human family and play the villain to his kind, regardless of what fate has done? Or will he rejoin thee Dragon races to prove he is a dragon? To me, Tui is setting the stage and Sky is going to witness the anthem of a revival. That's my ted talk, sorry for boring y'all.
On a side note, Jade Mountain Archives, the way I feel about Sky can be best described by how you feel about Qibli 🤣. Expect me to go gaga about Sky whenever I comment on your vids. Love your work.
Hahaha Sky and his snail obsession is kind of amazing. U right.
I was honestly surprised that Darkness of Dragons was ranked so high? I thought there were a lot more people that disliked this book but I guess those opinions have fizzled out. In my opinion though, DoD is one of the more messier WoF books. Tui wanted to do so much that it ends up making parts of the book extremely disconnected, and the ending has a lot to be desired. The first half with the Vulture and Onyx plot comes out of left field, and doesn’t really give you a satisfying conclusion, Vulture is just dropped entirely and never heard from again in the series, and Onyx had a lot of potential, but wasn’t used properly. Winter’s character also just gets so much worse. He’s under a spell for the first part so it’s understandable why he acts the way he does, but it’s shown that he’s STILL NOT OVER MOON for some reason, which just forces more love triangle stuff which nobody likes, and then completely regresses in his character arc when he chooses to fight for the Icewings. Then he’s just not told about Darkstalker??? Tui’s the author, so she was the person who decided that Winter shouldn’t be there for Darkstalker’s defeat (and by extension Peril and Turtle for some reason), and I just can’t understand why???? But he doesn’t know, and then Kinkajou basically tells him “we’re not gonna tell you because you’re an asshole”, so yeah, nice healthy friendship there no red flags at all. Then the Peacemaker stuff is just weird. It’s more of a reward for Foeslayer and not a punishment for Darkstalker, it punishes him but it doesn’t condemn him for his actions in a satisfying way. Rest of the book is good though. It’s not my favourite but it’s a good read. If this were my list I’d put it in B tier tbh (not the bottom though, cause there’s some books that I just outright hate).
Yeah, I'll agree the first half was weird and winter's character was treated unfortunately. But the rest of it was really fun imo - and we got Moonbli content so liiiiiiiiiike, what can I say? I just love to see it.
@@JadeMountainArchive moonbli...
yeah, dod wasnt really memorable for me
the only parts that i really liked were the things involving darkstalker or the other characters, ive never liked qibli personally
Yeah I'm also confused. Definitively in the bottom 5 books of the serie for me, despite having a couple of really good scenes.
I remember the ending being so weird and I was like “WHAT! THE GREAT AND POWERFUL DARKSTALKER WAS TURNED INTO A STRAWBERRY LOVING DRAGONENT?”
Darkstalker was by far my favorite in the series. It was the closest Wings of Fire will get to a Shakespearean tragedy.
My favorite was snowfalls book it was just so interesting
I read it a while ago and the only part I remember was Arctic dying but that book was so good
Same,
YES!!!!
YES! Absolutely!
In my opinion my favorite books are The Talons Of Power and Darkstalker. I just really like the animus fight and Darkstalker was just so good all around
I love book 4 I can kind of understand why people hate it but starflight and the first arc is very underrated
IKR!
I love seeing the opinions of the community! It’s always interesting :]
Yeah me too!
i literally had just finished reading darkstalker for probably the 5th time before i watched this, and i could not agree more with its placement. it's by far my favorite book of the series and i just wish it was twice as long so i could savor it a little longer. it's fascinating, brilliantly written, gives you all the highs and lows emotionally, and you connect and relate to and feel along with all of the perspectives, even including darkstalker. i personally love stories that show us the origins of villains (at least ones that do it well), and this book took that and ran a marathon with it, not even mentioning the tragedy and the amazing themes and characters. it's incredible and i'd recommend it to everyone even slightly interested in the series.
Trueeee - it was such a good book.
This shall be fun, such a nice “kid” series we all love to read isn’t it everyone?
Ah yes "kid" series you know genocide murder racism (in a way) blood you know kid stuff (I know that your referring to this)
@@Why-Do-You-Care. how is there racism?? wait what am i missing also they mean "kid" as in 10 and up not 5 or sum like that
@@MonkeyDluffyLuffy-zz9cl They define rainwings as lazy everyone thinks there tribe is the best and everyone else is infeior
I read Darkstalker right before Book ten as a kind of break from the main story and I could not have done it more perfectly on time. On the last page there was a Post Epilogue and I quote:
"Centuries later, as the dragon planet spun through space, a comet passed by, close enough to shine like a fourth moon in Phyrrhia's sky.
Close enough to change the tides and shake the continents.
As earthquakes rumbled through the ground long-buried rocks shifted that had been in place for thousands of years.
Deep underground, in the darkness, copper wires snapped.
*And a dragon awoke...*
That is the definition of suspense, setting up and straight up good writing. It built up suspense for the remainder of Arc two for anyone who read Darkstalker before it. It forshadows the return of Darkstalker. And the discription is perfect. Get Tui an award for this!
“Turtle hiding” and this, my good friends, is where I died laughing. What’s Evernote funnier is the personalities of turtle and moon combined = me. I’m pretty much moon with turtle’s nervousness and cowardice…
*Even funnier* not sure where that “evernote” came from…
At the start of this video, I was expecting for Darkstalker to be underrated as it was in the tier rating, but when it was put in S...as satisfying as the book itself! The heartbreak, warmth, and betrayal? PUT THAT BOOK WHERE IT BELONGS
YESSSSS, Darkstalker S tier!
@@JadeMountainArchive I Read darkstalker before book 1 and it kind of ruined arc 2 for me
I was literally waiting for them to rant about Qibli, my waiting came to an end quicker than expected
Qibli Is the best of boy's
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@@dragonyz*GASP* DON’T YOU DARE!!!
@@pugget_nugget3232 No, no - he's got a point.
Honestly I checked the comments and I didn’t see MANY people who’s favorite is book 13 with SNUDOO but it’s my fav! I also loved The Hidden Kingdom (book 3) and Darkness of Dragons (book 10)
I mean, I kinda liked Starflights book, but the only reason why I don’t personally like it is because how sometimes he just annoyed me a bit because of how scared he was. But he got better in book six ig.
Darkstalker was just amazing it’s most favorite wings of fire book and nothing I would change about it the characters it’s just written perfectly. Clearisght is very amazing and interesting to read about,and especially about her strong foresight powers. Her powers seem to stress her a bit sense she wants to make whatever vision,she got got right or either perfectly and in this scene she is talking about her soulmate. When her and Darkstalker finally met they have a joyful talk,and start already talking about there future together, saying they would make it come true until ClearSight Sees the horrible visions dark would do,but tried not think about it as much but it still bother, and worried her. When Dark had made a scroll just for clearsight to see she didn’t know to feel about, but thought it could work and at least trusted him so maybe he wouldn’t lose his soul. When she became the Queens top Seeger she worried more about her Beloved because of the queens intentions, for the ice wings and didn’t need him to lose his soul more. When he tried to convince Fathom to use his power ClearSight understood why, Fathom didn’t sense she knew what the Seawing been through because of her visions. When she say Dark becoming more corrupted by his magic she never ever thought her beloved would give her an,earring to prevent her from seeing the bad visions which should found out,and probably hurt by that. When it came time to the end of the book had to make a hard decision to try and keep saving dark,but also there happy future together or the safety of the world. When she finally put the bracelet on him she felt so hurt that she had to betray her beloved , but knew that’s what she had to do. ClearSight is just a Character you feel kinda sorry for having to do a lot and even betray her beloved but also having to help the world. Fathom okay you can only feel just sorry,and feel for this sea wing after everything he went through in this book. I mean he had to find out he was a animus something he knew his uncles was, and knowing they lose there souls. Having to find out the story about how his uncle become an animus in a very disturbing way, and then having to watch his family get murder by his own uncle. Then having to kill his uncle and almost indigo his best friend, and having to lie about he really killed him to also be treated differently by most of the sea wings. I bet that was hard for him so that’s when he swore he wouldn’t use his powers ever he feared her would become like his uncle. The worse thing for him was when Pearl told him to stay away from indigo. I bet that was tough and hard for him cause he loved indigo Dearly, and missed the conversation they had. But he had to because he kept a promise to pearl to not go near her cause pearl was afraid if they had dragonets that the animus gene,could be passed on, and nothing happening like this to the seawings again. When he Mets Dark and Clear he seems pretty alright with them when finding out Dark also has animus magic her fears for his friend not using it to much,and becoming like his uncle. When he found out that indigo was gone he felt sadden by the fact of it but still had Dark and Clear with him. Even when dark try to convince him to use his magic her still feared for the worst about what could happen to him and his Soul. When he had heard Dark was going mad,and needed something to keep him at bay and the safety of the world he ended up enchanting a bracelet with his magic after a while. He probably felt upset that he had to betray his friend but only did it for the safety of the world, but in the end he at least got to spend his time with indigo and there dragonets. Fathom is very interesting to read about cause he goes through so much, but still gets a happy end and not becoming like his uncle or his Friend Darkstalker.
Darkstalker the dragon himself the most powerful dragon the world would know. When reading about it him he seems to have not the best life. Having to Hear his parents arguing every single day, having to help and comfort his sister, and also trying to help clear sight stay away from the bad visions she had. Darkstalker and Arctic never got along he never liked his father yes,but he didn’t want you be like him he thought Arctic soul was already gone enough. He always thought his dad was the problem and why there family could never be happy. Darkstalker had also tried to help Clear with her visions and telling her that they would get there happy future together,and she didn’t have to worry. When she kept seeing them he kept trying to Manipulate her to think other things, but instead enchanted her an earring so she didn’t have to stress or be so worried about his soul. When he found out the His mother hope was taking he was upset and angry. When trying to find his dad,and wherever he was taking he finally found them,and was angry at him blaming him for why hope was captured. Though Arctic was only trying to get her back seeing that Arctic really still loved her. Even arctic couldn’t kill his own son even if he didn’t show much ice wing traits he still couldn’t kill him, but in the end his own son needed Up killing him which lead to his 2000 year sleep. In DOD (not the first book) he didn’t want to change or change who he was he thought he was doing good in the world,and not evil. When he finally Mets his mother again after 2000 years he sobs because he never thought he would see her again. When his mother tried to convince him he still didn’t want to cause he liked who he was. But when he ate the strawberry he felt betrayed by moon and his mom asking her “mother I’m a good dragon right not evil?” I bet that hurt Hope to hear those word for her son, but she knew he was to dangerous for this world. When he turns into to peacemaker hope only says “his fate could’ve been different if she chosen a name like peace maker. Which wraps up for Darkstalker a character a liked a lot and so with his friends. I enjoyed reading legends of Darkstalker cause of how in-depth the characters are and the story line, it’s mixed with emotions,sadness,betrayal, and everything else. It definitely deserved its ranking honestly, I was surprised most books got B+ mostly the dark secret maybe have to rant on that honestly cause the book is amazing. Arc 2 books I wasn’t to surprised about there rankings maybe Dod (not the first book) sense I felt like it could’ve been written so much better sam with escaping peril a bit and winter turning but I couldn’t change anything about winters sense I can’t change the amazing character development he had in his book. Moon rising I wouldn’t change anything about it sense it’s written perfectly and same with talons of power. But jade think it’s time you show some people how amazing StarFlight is honestly.
Amazing essay Rowan. And Starflight truly is great :D I totally agree that his book, Moon's book, and Winter's character development was really fun to read!
@@JadeMountainArchive thanks jade I appreciate it! It’s so sad to see my favorite arc 1 character get like no attention when his book is truly amazing. people really miss the great things Star did for the rainforest and his friends. But hopefully I can get this comment out about how truly amazing Star is and how he reflects us in reality cause I feel like some of the characters if not all kinds reflect what we wish we could kinda be or reflect are personality. If there is one dragons personality I would want it’s qibils I am a loyal member of the qibil fan club 👹
I just love every book Qiblis in tbh 👍
Now THIS is a relatable comment.
SAME.
Only, with Winter.
Same.
Only with moon :)
SAME.
but this time i agree 100%, only with Qibli
ngl ive never liked qibli lmao
hes a mary sue imo, the only explaination being 'he grew up in the scorpion den so hes allowed to be dragonet sherlock holmes'
he got everything with no struggle, his only conflict really being 'woah im like darkstalker' which i feel would have worked much better with an icewing or nightwing personally, & this conflict never really made sense imo because the only similarities between the two is that theyre 'smart' & want/have animus
he just feels really bland tbh
“Maybe ‘Turtle Hiding’ because that’s what he ever does in that book.” Got me laughing SO HARD
My favorite book is *DEFINITELY Darkstalker.* I was totally not non-stop crying the last few chapters...
y-yeah, I'm okay, are you? 🥺
Oof how did Winter Turning get so low? It was a really good book, greatly written, and deserved B+ or A.
Right??
this. it should have been on the same tier or higher than darkness of dragons
@@zytheabsolutenerd75 YES.
I'm so glad to see Darkness of Dragons getting a high rating. I was starting to think I was one of the few on this planet that really enjoyed it (coming from someone who originally hated on and downright refused to read it for sometime). Yes, it's littered with flaws and wasted potential, and Darkstalker's fate could have been executed a little better, but I loved Qibli's side plot (the book made him one of my favorite characters), the Nightwing-Icewing battle and how it ended was awesome, Moon got together with Qibli, and I love how nearly everything came together in the end. If it weren't for those last few paragraphs, I think it could have been a decent ending to the series.
That being said, Darkstalker is still the best Wings of Fire book hands down, for all the reasons everyone stated already. The one, Darkness of Dragons, and The Hidden Kingdom are my Top 3 favorites (I think, I'm still working on that) I am sad to see Escaping Peril and The Lost Heir down so low since I also loved them, but oh well.
Sadly, I tried to give Dragonslayer a chance, and I almost fell asleep. I couldn't get into it for the life of me.
i stopped reading and keeping up with the series when the first arc ended. but now after finding this channel, my brain has decided to dig back up this obsession and YEET me into the hole. crazy to think that was 5 years ago!
(i had already known there were different kinds of dragons after seeing the lost continent cover years ago, but it still blows my mind!!)
escaping peril is by far my favorite book. closely following behind are the brightest night and the hive queen
This is amazing! Did the tribe thingy, love ur vids! Congrats on 10K
I feel like The lost continent and Talons of Power should have been higher rated, because they explain so much! Darkstalker’s back story and the way Turtle uses his animus powers makes the whole story a lot better. The lost continent explains how there are new types of dragons from a different world, and that made the book interesting and fascinating to read.
100% correct
I loved The Dark Secret and think it's under appreciated. The cliffhanger at the end almost had me crying too lol. I would say the same for Winter Turning but I understand why people hate it.
In my personal opinion I think the fans might be a little too harsh on Dragonslayer, for the simple reason being that Tui established early on that the humans were not so different from dragons, and the dragons were slowly starting to come to understand them (difficult as it was), so I felt that it was nice to see things from the human's perspective. Plus it did a good job of following the points it needed, so I felt like it deserved to be higher than that.
Lol most people just find humans boring compared to dragons imo, even if it was a decently good story
@@spyritsolz And I just don't understand that. They are important too.
@@trainman666 Yeah understandable
Just felt like I had to point this out, I think one of the biggest reasons why Dragonslayer was made for a potential Arc 4. To me, if we ever get a book about Sky's perspective, Sky would learn that Humans and Dragons aren't so different after all but both races are too ignorant to realize that. My theory is that somewhere down the like Sky's morals will be challenged and where his loyalty lies (whether he is loyal to his human family or his dragon kind). I thought I had to say that and I'm sorry if this isn't irreverent to the conversation. Thanks for the ted talk
Yeah I enjoyed the book, and people are just having a fit about ‘dragon riders’.
Hi! I loved this video I love ur tear list!! My favorite character is sunny and my fav book is IDK!! TO MANY GOOD ONES!! Also I’m here for ur ROAD TO 10k!!!
Hi JMA, just got back from a road trip to the northshore of lake superior! I got back and saw a new realese from you and got so excited!!! I just finished rating the next tierlist! ALSO WINTER TURNING WAS THE BEST BOOK! NOT BIASED DONT LOOK AT MY LAST COMMENTS TO FACT CHECK THAT!
All sets of novels were good. The ones for the dragonet prophecy gave me the most nostalgia out of all it. Winter's, Tsunami's, and Sunny's have to be my favs but its hard to pick - also the Hive Queen, Talons of Power and Moon Rising...
Ok, soon I'm gonna start listing all of them lol
I love moon watcher I think being able to see inside the others is so cool and introducing that dark stalker is alive and the visions just wow!
Just a suggestion:
I'd like to see you rate Wings of Fire things (ships, books, characters, etc.) once in a while.
Hahaha, could be fun!
Honestly, I don't think I could choose a favorite out of all the books!
In arc 1, I think my favorite book was definitely The dark secret and The hidden kingdom.
In arc 2, my favorites are probably all of them lol! Especially Moon rising, Winter turning, and Escaping Peril.
In arc 3, my favorites are the poison jungle and The dangerous gift.
For the legends, I am currently reading Dragon slayer and I honestly really love it! I was super shocked Tui made a book with human perspectives, it was pretty cool especially with the 3 different point of views. But the other two legends I haven't read yet, so I can't say which one is my favorite yet.
I actually own the “wings of fire forge your dragon world” book, I got it from a Barnes and nobles book store.
Btw it was hilarious when you said “maybe like hiding turtle”.
Me: *bursts out laughing when you said that* hahaha *wipes a tear of laughter of my face after the third time i rewatched it* never gets old, never gets old
I'm glad you liked that joke hahaha
I definitely agree with the people for the 1st arc, though I'm confused why Book 2 was so low - I'd rank it higher.
Moon Rising was definitely my favorite. Then probably Darkstalker, Escaping Peril, The Poison Jungle, and Dragonslayer.
PREACHHHH!!!!!
I wish I could say that Darkstalker made me cry because OH MY GOD. IT WAS SO FREAKING SAD. Also, it resulted in some top tier maps and animations. Darkstalker and Clearsight, while I wish it worked out, I know the book wouldn't be very good if it did. The tragedy, in my opinion, made it even better. Darkstalker deserves its position in S tier. Thank you for coming to my TED talk.
when i was reading darkstalker i cried, i felt so bad for clearsight she didn't deserve any of the bad things that happened
Talons of power is my favorite book because I love turtle's character and it has the most cool Animus fight EVER!
The plot got so *Thiccc* you could- you c- you… (ok I don’t know where I was going with that.)
Truly the most underrated creator in all of UA-cam (/srs)
I'm glad someone liked that joke hahaha
Basically every The Lost Continent arc book was my favorite. Along with Darkstalker and Escapring Peril. I just like learning about how the different tribes cultures and ways of living, along with the history of the Pyrrhia which arc 3 did a good job on along with themes of the story. I just wish Lady Scarab became Queen though. The Hive Queen was really interesting to read because of the Jewel Hive. I want to live there so bad.
My fav books are starflight s and winters but that’s kinda biased cuz they are my favorite characters lol
1:32 Uhh why is his book at the bottom
I loooove winter turning
It was pretty good!
I will agree on darkstalker being in S tier tho
DragonSlayer Really Tied up what happened to perils Brother Skye. And it was just amazing 😊
I was so surprised when a few books rated in B tier but darkstalker definitely deserved it and I didn’t really like escaping peril. Brightest night was really good and it wasn’t just because Qibli was introduced into the WOF world. I also picked up on that poetic writing of the darkness of dragons and the 2 parts of book 10 and 6 and it was so suspenseful. Omg you are soooo close to 10k you deserve it so much for your work and how amazing these videos there are. Anyone who is reading this comment and aren’t subscribe you HAVE TO. Ok bye and Qibli is the best
Thanks for the support and Qibli IS the best.
The video being well made and continuing off a great series,
the captions: *dark soccer*
lol
I agree so much and that is why I love the book
lol this was supposed to be a reply
0:34 I wonder what the fandom thinks about what is possibly my favorite book 0:41……… DAMN YOU WOF FANDOMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM!
I'm super surprised that Escaping Peril only got B+. A ton of people I've talked to have said it was their favorite.
its my favorite by far. its literally just perfection with more details on perils childhood / backstory and all of the suspense with chameleon. and the resolution was such a cliff hanger that it did not feel like a resolution. and cliff is such a cutie. its pains me to see people under appreciating this masterpiece. and it drives my FAVORITE SHIP so far (clay x peril). i also might be biased since two of my fav characters are very vital to the book (queen scarlet and peril)
Qiblis is definitely my favorite. I think Darkstalker is second. I can’t believe the b tier! There were some books in there that I thought would be higher!
Anyways great video man!!
Thanks, and I agree! A lot of the B tiers deserved better.
Hmm I wonder where qiblis book will place?
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So excited for this video, I made sure to vote in the poll. Really surprised by some of the result but I'm still sad tsunami's book isn't higher.
Wings of Fire is my all time favorite book series, so many good characters and moments. But honestly I think it should go in B tier.
Like, all of them?
@@JadeMountainArchive yea
@@Bry-Guy909 WHAT. "Wings of Fire is my all time favorite book series". B tier? No way. More like, S+ tier.
@@dragonyz It was a joke
@@Bry-Guy909 Ohhhh ok...thank god it was.
I just got the last two books of arc 3, and I put the darkstalker legends book with them, so glad it won't be a waste of money
I was screaming less than half way through cause I was angry Darkstalker wouldn't he recognized as the best WoF book. Thank god it was lol
It's so good!
@@JadeMountainArchive preach, also Book 4 is underrated u rite
HOLY SMOKIN' WAFFLES I literally just realized your at 9.69k subs! So happy for you, JMA!!! I can't believe that it felt like just yesterday when, last I checked, it was at 4k! You're so close to 10k, and I wish you all the best for the future....(also, you're going to give us a 10K treat, right? For being the world's best supporters?)
Hahaha, don't you worry - 10k will be a big channel update :D It won't all happen at once, as I've got a lot going on behind the scenes to get it ready but rest assured there will be fun things!
@@JadeMountainArchive Alright then
I’m so obsessed with “The hive queen” and “Darkstalker” but especially “Winter turning”
My fav books are the Poison Jungle, Darkness of Dragons,Moon Rising, and Darkstalker. Im so glad that Darkstalker got rated S tier. Even though its a sad story in the end I really liked it.
Second comment! I love seeing all your work it is so fun and seeing your stuff while I'm quarantined brings me so much joy keep making great stuff
boo scavengers. I skipped most of dragon slayer I only read wren and sky's part the first time I read it, but reread it through and through and I still only remember wren and sky's part.
Hahaha, I'm glad you enjoy them!
OMG “Turtle hiding” had me laughing so hard
Am I wrong though??? Hahahaha
I believe WoF books even at their lowest are still pretty good. Definitely better than some Warrior Cats books I’ve read!
I was a big fan of Warriors for a long time, but quickly lost interest after the fourth arc. Omen of the stars was a great conclusion, and we didn't need the any of the books after it. And I don't like the characters from the later books. Wings of Fire is much better in many aspects.
FYI: I know this doesn't have anything to do with WoF, but you mentioned it so I thought I'd talk about it.
(P.S: did you know there are over 100 Warriors books? That's just ridiculous. )
I think my favorite book is either The Lost Continent or Talons of power. I kind of understand how some people wouldn’t like them much, but the books had small moments for me that made me enjoy them so much. In book 9, Turtle finally gets to be recognized by his mother, and it’s very heartwarming to me, because he’s carried guilt from not being able to help his father as a small dragonet, and he just…gets his moment! In book 11, when I read the book of Clearsight, it just…made me cry. Not sure why. Every time I read it I cry. I honestly can’t explain how I feel about it, but the message Clearsight left behind is just *Chef’s kiss*
That’s all I had to say, thanks for reading :)
What is wrong with you all the 4th book was amazing y’all crazy 💀
Personally my favorite was moon rising and the poison jungle! The leaf wings were so cool and a loved the jungle!
honestly winter turning is extremely underrated. its really good and the character development is just soo good. moon doesn't deserve winter. he sacrificed everything for her.
Bro I agree
I’m on book 9 rn but 7 is still my fav
@@Carzer1 ikr book 7 is just so good
Especially the ending, to bad the didn't carry through enough in 8, they probs will in 9
@@Carzer1 yea sad
I just got finished with talons of power so I’m looking forward to it
I can't believe how underrated book four is personally that one was my second favorite from arc 1 I cants say anything about the rest bc I have not read them yet
My top 3 fav books:Dragonslayer, Darkstalker legands, but Talons of Power and Darkness of Dragons are tied
Your great
Thanks Fathom hahaha
The Dark Secret is my favorite book in the series! It WAS a great book
Moon is the worst character in the whole series, even though its hard to say.... Shes worse than Whirlpool. I absolutely despise her. What was Tui thinking? Moons just the center of attention. But this is just my honest opinion.
Fu moon is a great character 🙂🤬
Moon is awesome
My favorite was defiantly darkstalker I have read it a million times and I cry every time. I just love it
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when you were at 4k i thought i subscribed to you but it turns out i didn't, but i will always consider myself apart of the 4k gang😁
I'll consider you that too hahaha - thanks for the support!
Not him obsessing over Qibli’s book ❤😂
Also, I’d like to point out, it’s interesting that all the legends go by the title DS DarkStalker, DragonSlayer. Just interesting. Was that intentional?
interesting!
The order I read the series in (strangely enough I realize now) was:
1. Dragonslayer
2. Legends: Darkstalker
Then months later I picked up books 1-15 and the winglets, and I have to say- REREADING LEGENDS: DARKSTALKER BROKE ME. Reading it the first time before any of the main series books left me with 0 expectations, bias, or context when approaching it so I feel that it gave me a unique perspective on the 2nd arc. Reading it as a stand alone book still got me so emotional! (I did not understand the post-epilogue whatsoever and the Seawing Massacre was a SHOCKER lol.)
When I first read book 6, I jokingly guessed Moon had been hearing Darkstalker’s voice and you can imagine how surprised I was it was actually him. Him telling Moon selective parts of his story was super interesting to me and really kicked at my memory which was super foggy. Darkstalker crying over Clearsight in book 9 shattered so much tension and wrenched my heart out and so did the resolution of book 10 when I realized he was close to finding out about the lost continent and Clearsight’s life.
Rereading Legends: Darkstalker was such an emotional rollercoaster because I was constantly DREADING the inevitable crumbling of Darkstalker and Clearsight’s future. At the same time, every happy scene between them was so indescribably heartwarming and every time Darkstalker made a horrible decision or something happened to wedge them apart it totally broke my heart. The ending was more satisfying that I originally remembered in the sense that I completely forgot Clearsight and Darkstalker’s last conversation and how he saw a stream of her mind, falling sleep knowing that she loved him dearly and didn’t betray him out of hatred, which was comforting. It also hit me really hard when Clearsight thought to herself that maybe she should just wait to die in the avalanche. I didn’t know she mean it so literally in the line “I thought my life was over” in the Book of Clearsight. The way the book showcased her immense grief was kind of comforting because I thought she totally moved on from Darkstalker without a second thought to be with those Silkwings and he was the only one missing her. I’m also grateful that Clearsight finally confronted Darkstalker with all of his mistakes and flaws such as lying to her and being arrogant which he absolutely needed to hear. (Too bad he didn’t consider what she said and change for arc 2…) I’m also glad that Fathom left the story believing that Darkstalker did in fact do some good things and have a heart instead of regarding him as pure evil which I felt would not have allowed the book to end full circle so poetically.
In conclusion, I found Legends: Darkstalker to be AMAZING (rightfully S tier)! The beginning and middle of the book gave me so many powerful highs and lows and the ending was so encompassing. Reading it before ever reading the series and then again after gave me a whole new appreciation for this genius book and arcs 2 and 3. That said I wish it was infinitely longer (with the same quality)… and my heart needs to recover forever…
(Had to get this off my chest somewhere 😅)
I'm right there with you :)
another great vid😀keep it up
I read Darkstalker's book recently and it was mind breaking to say the least. When I opened that book I thought I'd get to see Darkstalker's evil scheming from the egg, not... not such DEEP stuff. This book made think so much that I was mentally EXHAUSTED when I finished it (I tend to hyperfocus and read a book all at once).
I wouldn't change a single thing about it. It was written with the right POV. Having the main character not be Darkstalker to tell his story, and a character that can see more than any other, put, in my opinion, an incredible depth in the story and in Darkstalker's character. You get just the right amount of information and character development. UGH. And the epilogue makes it even better. It concludes the theme of the book with Fathom saying he didn't think Darkstalker was bad, but did bad things. That part where he read the spells on the parchment felt really powerful to me, too. It really proves that people are complicated, not everything is white and black. The whole book surfed those shades of grey and it was astounding I could go on for hours.
Overall I just think it is PERFECTION.
The Dragonet Prophecy, The Lost Heir, The Hidden Kingdom, The Dark Secret, The Brightest Night, Winter Turning, Escaping Peril, The Hive Queen, and The Poison Jungle are the best.
"I know some people really like him because he's SHY and HAD HIS DREAMS CRUSHED and BLAH BLAH BLAH..."
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Am I wrong though?!?
YES I LOVE DARKSTALKER! That book actually taught me how to draw, the cover of it. I also remember feeling really disturbed by it because I was young lol but I still loved it so much and I wouldn’t be drawing right now if it weren’t for that book. It deserves S tier 🥰
I've read darkstalker legends 4 times and I'm an emotional reck :') my favorite book in the world and it brings me so much happy, but broken feelings that throb in my chest for days. It hits harder the second or third time you read it. You notice smaller things. You listen to it and listen to clearsight amd darkstalker being so happy, but whilst knowing what lies ahead and how it'll all crumble and break and shower down and bury its raindrops in the dirt and never come back. Its so sad but I love it for some reason. And OH MY GOSH I'm a SUCKER for clearsight! I love how shes writen out and a bit anxious, I love how she plays her role SO FREAKING WELL!! I lover how she mourned her dragonets that were never born. Eclipse was the most mentioned dragonet and certainly would have been an amazing thing to hear about if she had becom a reality. Vigilance is certainly my least favorite queen bc of how she snapped darkstalker. I also hate arctic for leaving with whiteout at the same time. Darkstalker didn't deserve all of that piled on towering above him like agot mountain- which crumbled with him in it.
Excited to see any new video of yours as always!
I just scrolled through your channel to rewatch some of your tier list videos, but as far as I can tell, they all appear to be gone? I don’t know if it’s just my UA-cam glitching out, or if something happened to them…?
They were causing some issues so I took them down - don't worry though, I'll be remaking them eventually!
@@JadeMountainArchive Ah okay. Thanks for the response
Noooo the lost content was sooooo good. But blue is my favorite character. I love the way he thinks, and i loved seeing him develop affection for cricket. I love how it expanded the lore, normally i wouldn't want something this expansive if you the author hadn't yet filled out what was already established but it was introduced soooo well! And I love how silk wings work and i wished they would have explored them more. And the sense of optimism within oppression was amazing! It doesn't have to be a+ but like high b or low a
Book 9 is actually one of my favorites, I could relate with Turtle a lot. And the final chapters were a rollercoaster of emotions. The scene with Coral is still my favorite of the whole series.
When I saw this on my “subscriptions“ list I screamed in the highest pitch voice I never knew I had “ oh my gosh oh my gosh oh my gosh ITS HERE! “
The Dark Secret, The Hive Queen, Escaping Peril and Winter Turning are so underrated
Congratulations absolutely ROCKETING towards 10.00k