NEVER THOUGHT A RAMMSTEIN SONG WILL TEAR ME UP THIS MUCH! "Zeit"
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Don’t be shy to cry. My 16 years old daughter passed away 5 months ago. I’m crying every time hearing this song.
I am really sorry for you loss!!😥
I don’t usually react to other people. But i want you to take care of yourself
I lost my daughter at the exact same age a few years back and this song still hits like a freight train. I am so terribly sorry for your loss, we belong to a club that nobody wants a membership to. It DOES get better over time. The biggest key to that is to not second guess yourself or blame yourself for whatever it was that happened. Be well.
My deep compassion for you Marek. No one should see his children die ...😞
From one mum to another, I am so sorry for the loss of your beautiful girl. I send you much love from Australia ❤️
There aren't many UA-camrs who react so emotionally to the song. But I like that and it's OK. That's how it has to be. Because then you notice that people understand this song. RAMMSTEIN has a lot of emotional songs. If you read the lyrics and understand what message Rammstein wants to convey, you'll see. Rammstein has simply been the best band in the world for years. That's just a fact.
I´m a grown ass man over 50 and I cry too. EVERY time I se it.
It´s part of Rammstein´s magnificent artistry to be able to to provoke the same emotion every single time you hear on of their songs. No matter which song it is, the emotions I felt when hearing it the first time is exactly the same I feel every single time. It doesn´t fade away, no matter how often I hear it. Sometimes the emotions are stronger depending on personal situation, but they are still there.
And Rammstein is the only band that is capable to achieve this for decades with almost every song they put out there.
Me too
It's interesting that Pink Floyd's song by the same name has a tendency to bring out the same kind of response, and as others have pointed out, more so the older one gets.
Ditto, and I'm over 70. David Bowie's song "Time" (as I perceive it) is also full of emotions, 50 years older.
This will always make me cry. My sister had cancer around the time this came out. I had been learning German at the time & she loved hearing me speak it as we lived 100s of km apart but I went through the whole pandemic getting on trains to go see her. One day it was a beautiful sunny winter's day. So we were hugging in the lounge room just feeling warm & enjoying the hug so I was softly singing this. The perfect moment. I went to leave & she called out love you. I called out love you right back! And that was the last time I would see her. 2 weeks later her health tanked & I was on the phone on speaker with her partner in the middle of the night as she slipped away, apparently with a little smile on her face. 2 years coming up in June.
Est ist sehr schön
My heart goes out to you dear friend. I'm glad your last moments were filled with love. I love the power of music!
Traurig und schön zur gleichen Zeit
I am so very sorry to hear of your loss. Tears streaming down my face, listening to this song, reading your words (and this song already does this to me!).
Time is truly precious. Peace & love to you all.
@@EchoesDaBear thank you. It really did almost destroy me but I keep going. It's pretty good when the last words you say to someone is "I love you"
My father had cancer around the time this album was coming out. My brother and myself both think of our dad when we here this song. We live close to the German border, so we can understand the lyrics.
During the concert of Rammstein last july my brother and I stand hugged and cry our eyes out during this song.
Rammstein making a grown man cry is soooo rockˋn roll I love it!
I cry alot lol
@@TheWolffAndTheMelody literally your title says "NEVER TOUGHT" you'll cry haha
Another masterpiece from Rammstein…music, lyrics , video. Always goosebumps❤
Probably the purest and most honest reaction to this masterpiece.
much love friend, that means alot.
This one hits hard! For me one of their best songs! We all need to enjoy every second we have on this beautiful earth!
This is the deepest thread on a UA-cam video I've ever seen. I'm glad you had a reaction to the song a lot of us do. Nice words.
much love friend!
Yeah no matter how many times you watch it, you just tear up. Till conveys the feelings so powerfully in his vocals...
Nobody asks us
whether we like it,
whether we love life or hate it,
we come into this world unasked
and have to leave them without being asked.
many are asked to leave
Everybody really loves the classics and so do I. But I will contend that these last two records combined with their traveling cityscape stage, they have reached a whole new level of artistry
One of my favourite Rammstein songs. ❤ The line that gets to me the most is "Augenblick, verweile doch, ich bin noch nicht bereit". I've unfortunately had a lot of people in my life pass on; the first funeral I remember anything of was when I was two, for my cousin of the same age. Even in just the the past four years, I've gone to as many funerals (including one of my uncles the day before the pandemic shut the world down). I'm close to my dad. He actually just had his birthday yesterday, and I'm increasingly aware of the fact that he's getting older and I won't have him around forever. I dread the day I'll have to say goodbye to him; I don't think I'll ever be ready for it.
Enjoy those times with him, which I know you do. All we can do is celebrate those we love.
My dad is 83, it's scaring the shit out of me to see him getting older.
@@renskevanderhaagen5813 Yeah, it's hard. I don't want to think about the future in that regard.
This one hits in the feels for sure. Also i think Till is very underrated as a singer, he can definetely sing with lots of feeling when he wants to. No need to feel sorry for your little "rants", we all have stuff inside us that needs to come out..., btw another real tear-jerker from Rammstein is "Ohne dich" so make sure to check it out.
I had a cat named Pete. He got sick, developed kidney disease, and my family couldn't see him suffer. I couldn't be there when it was his time to go, so I kept listening to this song (plus "Helvegen" by Wardruna). I love this song, but I have a hard time watching it now, especially the scene with Ollie (the man who has his daughter taken away). The fact that Rammstein used the Nornir, the fates from Norse mythology, is especially poignant, because they demonstrate that we can't control time and how it affects all our lives. Thanks for all your reactions, but especially this one.
Already knowing the song that calm part just before the guitars hit is intense every time... And then it hits like a freight train
It's like the calm part is "the perfect moment" and then the heavy part is time itself slamming into you on its relentless march
such a perfect song!
I have been a German Rammstein fan from the very beginning. They determined my zeitgeist, accompanied my life in many ways and were there with their art when I needed it. All of this was almost destroyed by the terrible press campaign surrounding last year's sexual debauchery and rape allegations. But today I am even more on the side of Till, my cousin Sven and the other boys, now that they have been identified as victims and not as the perpetrators. Keep it up and keep impressing audiences around the world... Love you.
die sind die opfer? das ist doch ein absoluter witz! die opfer - alles junge frauen, 18, 20 jahre alt - mittels rechtsanwälten zum schweigen zu bringen hat leider nichts mit unschuld zu tun, sondern einfach damit, dass die haufenweise geld in ihre anwälte geschoben haben. nach dem motto sprich die wahrheit und ich verklage dich. denk mal drueber nach.
und niemand stellt sich allein gegen die gesamte fanbase hin und erzaehlt dinge die nicht wahr sind.
😮 Your cousin is Richard ??
You made me cry. I said good bye to my mother 10 years ago and still hurt like before, but like you say, she became the spark, the reason to fight ever day. ❤️❤️❤️
much love my friend! After losing my father and my sister, I get it.
I feel you bro Greetings from Germany ❤
"Zeit" = time (usually a time or period in the past)........Till, as usual, and the band bring yet another emotional, powerful composition to us....thanks for your thoughtful reaction 😊........
"It's taken me 30 years to figure out who the fuck I am...
And I feel like, as I have learned so much about myself. I know nothing."
That sentence hit me man. I'm pretty sure most people feel like that. At least when they slow down and actually think.
But its funny how from the outside looking in from your own perspective it still always feels like everyone else has their shit together and you are the only one that has no clue of what's going on.
If we only knew how many around us probably relate to those feelings.
It's a weird universe we live in.. on a very weird planet.. and we are all very weird creatures that are just trying to piece together what the fuck is going on.
Wow, even by Rammstein standards, that is intense. Another masterpiece!
Beautiful song, lovely honest reaction. Showing emotions and supposed weakness is actually a sign of strength.
I appreciate you so so much, for real. Thank you for being here.
I appreciate that
We're all moving inexorably to the same place. What's so amazing to me about this song/video is the realization that even if we could run the clock in reverse, it would do nothing to change the end result. The nothingness before, and after, and the perfect moment is the only moment. The one we're living now.
Dude this was one of the greatest videos I've seen in a long time!
I lost my daughter passed away two years ago andI still cry when i am watching this clip. All the missed wonderful moments... which will never happen and NOTHING can bring back the moments of joy with her... NOTHING
Sending you so much love and positive energy!
Best Music Video EVER..! 🇩🇪🤘
Its really fucking good.
You are SO genuine. Keep it up man
I really appreciate that friend. I want people to know they arn't alone.
Great Reaction...you speak from my Soul!
Many greets from the Center of Germany🤘
Much love dear friend! Thank you for being here.
Rammstein "mein Herz brennt" (piano version) also great.
Thank You so much!!! 🤗❤️🫶
Great reaction. When this album came out, 2 songs hit me hard; Zeit & Adieu. Zeit hits especially hard as I am past the halfway mark of life and lost my dad 16 years ago around the same age I am now. Miss him every day even though we weren't the closest. These guys are amazing live. If you ever get the chance, go see them.
I'm a dad too, and I saw this video dozens of time, since it came out, and I always get tears on my face. Once as I see the birth, remembering the two moments new life came on earth, seeing the head of my daughter, of my son, coming out, those pictures burned in my head, I will never forget. And then, a few seconds later, feeling fear, looking at the eyes of the father, I have known what would come ... And then, he's running, too late, no mum, no dad will go through this.
This is one aspect. Then, the perfect music, the colours, the visuals, the symbolic (men with scythes, the 3 norns, the sand-clock etc). You said it, a masterpiece.
Great reaction!! This IS a masterpiece...keep it real!
👍❤️ a masterpiece
Still remember when i watched it the first Time. Wasn´t ready for it and it still get´s me when i watch reactions.
I tried to recommend Rammstein to Friends & Family, wish they would give them a Chance. Sadly they only think of Dark, Screaming and Metal when it comes Rammstein and don´t even try. If someone would read the Lyrics or check out there Videos, they would get it.
Great Reaction btw. I have to say i really like the Setup....everything Dark in the Backround and nothing thats distract from the Video or your Reaction.
Ya this has been fun diving in. I get it dude when people assume something.
Also thanks, I came up with the black background by accident haha
I had a similar reaction when listening to it. This is one of their most deep, emotional songs I've listened to and, of course, one of my favorites. Time is merciless, so living a life with no regrets is what I've been learning to do also, after decades of living in an emotional captivity that made me feel anything else but myself.
"Zeit", "Adieu" & "Deutschland" are real Masterpieces/Milestones from Rammstein! I've known & loved the Band since the very beginning! Got to see them live several times...1997 the first time at a festival!
Familiy Values tour? That's when I first saw them in '97.
@@TheErikBallew@M'era Luna Festival, Hildesheim Airport, Germany.
I can't think of any other band, who is big for nearly 30 years and gets some of their best songs out after 20 years or later
nice Reaction.... please more Rammstein😍😍
oh we will!
Yeah this makes me tear up every time. Rammstein is such an amazing band with so much depth and variety in music that many people miss.
The piano version of "Mein Herz Brennt" (official version) is like a theater monologue that you can't look away from. It gives me the same feeling as newly waking from a disturbing nightmare. No other band has managed to do that.
Zeit now has to be added to my "crying on the bus-list" btw, but I knew what I was in for when clicked it😂
Girllll I was not expecting all this! Amazing song!
This song can emphasize your current emotional state.
Their ultimate masterpiece.
You shouldn't suppress your anger that isn't healthy. You need to find a way to release that negative energy.
That's one of those songs, they are so good and they get you so hard, that you can't listen to often to it
As it reminds you, there are things, nobody can change
Thnx once again for introducing me to yet another masterpiece
Thank you for the last minutes und your warm words. Needed that so much today. 🙏🏻
Keep your head up friend.
I have always had a very up and down relationship with this band, but I really liked this. I think the style in which the song is delivered lends itself to the vocalists voice. I enjoyed the slow,strong tone. Dude,I can relate on the whole angry thing. If it wasn't for my compassion I would be in a such worse place do to everything that has gone down in my life.
Ya this was a different side. Loved it.
I love seeing you showing your emotionslos to wonderful songs. This song always bringst me tears. Its so beautiful. ❤
For me as a father also... Your silence in the end of the video said it all!! No words needed!! Keep strong
Much love brother!
Cool reaction,thank you very match.Greetings from Germany 🇩🇪
Much love friend!
5:30 very hard being a parent and not getting teary-eyed during this next minute
I know exactly how you feel. I am the same and some times anger is overwhelming. This song has been my crutch since I lost my mother last year. She died from cancer less than three months of the diagnosis age 60. This played for four months straight and helped me with my grief and process everything. Time is the most valuable commodity the thing we have quantified and we want more and we some times don't have. The entire album almost is about loss it feels.
omg my heart goes out to you. I'm on instagram if you want to talk! Seriously. I lost my father and my sister, I get it.
@@TheWolffAndTheMelody Thank you ❤❤
Great reaction to one of my favourite Rammstein songs. It is so powerful and touching really. Greetings from Germany!
Thank you so much!
It feels "comfortable" you tearing up while I do the same. I am a grown man, 36 years old, my kids are alive but don't live with me anymore. The girl at the end reminds me so much of my own daughter - I can't watch that part without crying. So thank you for your company.
I love this song, but I can't listen to it often because it is a guaranteed cry-moment for me.
I can see you as a father too feeling those emotions.
Thank you for showing your emotions on this one. I will watch your reaction video from time to time to not feel alone in my dark moments.
Edit: after listening to your last words thank you, it helps me. You are a good person. I messaged you on instagram, would appreciate it if you would answer me. Thank you!
Thank you very much for your heartfelt reaction..
Rammstein are really unique and always their videos touch something inside you that you kinda forget or take for granted..
All of their albums have that quality
Greetings from Greece 🇬🇷
New sub here ❤
WOW! Thanks so much for the love! Yea I was so surprised by this!
Great reaction again. I love this song. One of their most beautiful songs and one of my favorites of the "new" Rammstein songs.
Epic!
We all know that it will end at some point and yet we destroy ourselves in small wars every day. We didn't understand the meaning of life.
Such an honest, human response! Chapeau! Living the remainder of one’s life with as little regret as possible is often an advise given to people suffering from a terminal illness. In a way, life itself is “terminal” in a manner of speaking. Therefore it’s a great realization to pursue this path of non-regretfulness. Thank you.
Schäme Dich bitte nicht Deiner Tränen.
Als ich das Video zum ersten Mal gesehen und gehört habe, war ich komplett verliebt und fix und fertig zugleich.
Vielen Dank für Deine berührende Reaction.
Alles Liebe Dir💝
I discovered your Channel a while ago and watched a few videos. Then I subscribed to the Channel. With each video i saw more of your personality. In my opinion, it is the best and most personal reaction video of yours so far. yes, the song is really hard in a different way and makes you think. One of the best Rammstein Songs so far.Thank you for sharing with us.
Greetings from the middle of Germany
I really appreciate you being here friend! I'm grateful for ya!
Thank you. The song and video is a masterpiece. Rammstein's songs are always about deep topics and they make you think - that 's why I love them so much. I feel what you said and I understand your emotions. The message that this song sends to me: you don't know what you have until it's gone, so love and cherish the people that are in your life while they are still here, and let them know what they mean to you.
I'm realizing that more and more as I get older!
I've also gone through a lot of cr** and had to bury my mom and my grandpa. My dad is currently very ill too and for a while things looked so bad the doctors said we might have to decide that he should be allowed to die. Luckily, things are looking better now. I really hope he keeps getting better and might have a few more years. I was so terribly worried and cried so much and the other deaths were already reason enough for me to cry when listening to the song. Mom died 13 years ago, but it still hurts. I've also often been a nobody basically, bullied relentlessly etc. but luckily, I've always had my family who were there for me and supported me. I don't know if I'd still be here if it wasn't for them.
thanks for your words and for your reaction, i feel with you
We are in this together!
I was not expecting that. What a beautiful and moving song.
And, as incredible as the message in the song was, your "rant" at the end was equally as important. So many people are struggling in their lives and need to hear that right now, so thank you. Thank you for saying what needs to be said.
About the three Figures:
Norne (goddess of fate in Norse Mythology)
In Norse Mythology, the Norns are female beings who determine fate.
Three Women of destiny are mentioned by Name:
They are called Urd (fate), Verdandi (that which becomes) and Skuld (guilt; that which is to be).
Their Names are regarded as Norse equivalents of common medieval concepts of Time in the form of personifications of the Past (Urd), Present (Verdandi) and Future (Skuld).
Great reaction! You are not the first crying when seeing this video! Get's me every time, too. Speaks for Rammstein, their music and their lyrics. This year marks 30 years of Rammstein. They really have reached the peak of their career and art!
i love this song so much i want it to be played at my funeral
this would be a great song for that.
❤❤❤ Brother! We who are about to cry, salute you, and your faith ❤❤❤🤘🤘🤘
Time is a merciless master we all must face. No one knows when it's up, for you.. for me.. for them. Make the most of it, as cliché as that sounds. As for the song, i was not expecting it at all, except Zeit.. i knew the word so i figured it would be emotional. Super video, music, vocals. Great job ❤ and ✌️
As last year my mother died
and my partner has Alzheimer's
so is experiencing a living death
where he forgets things
and everyday we practice remembering.
It's crazy that Dicke Titten and this song is on the same album 😅
Well, d.t. is (also) about being blind for that you want, and could get, it's just next you, but blind in the complaining, you don't see it. But it's told on a fun way.
Rammstein says: Stop complaining, open your eyes. Remember: (east) German band, a lot of people are frustrated in germany, but for what? They should open their eyes.
Zeit was produced by the same director as "Angst" (also a masterpiece).
Rammstein is the greatest band on this planet. They mean the life to me.
That was beautiful, and surprising. I almost skipped it because Rammstein is not a band I particularly like, but I'm glad I decided to listen.
Im glad you stuck around!
This one means a lot to me too; I travel soon to Germany to meet old (german) friends, and amongst them, we just lost our second mom, an very old friend of my parents, since 1966, died a month ago. Zeit...
Dem Ende treiben wir entgegen
Keine Rast, nur vorwärts streben
Am Ufer winkt Unendlichkeit
Gefangen so im Fluss der
Thanks for this one.
Appreciate you dear friend!
Beautiful reaction. This song hit me hard when it was released - and it indeed had much to do with all those I've lost in my life - and still continue to lose! Because of this, I find it hard getting through the song without tears.
Time is unbelievably precious. Use it wisely. Sympathies & love for all you lost.
Never fails to hit me hard and make me tear up too. Such a powerful song and amazing video. Love what you're doing, thank you for being here too dude.
Thanks for being here friend.
Crying is ok Period.
I always start to tear up while listening and watching Rammstein's Deutschland video because it really touches me and not only as German but because it is so well made, same with some of the Sabaton songs it is how it is.
There is no shame in crying.
much love friend! Thanks so much for being here.
Site Fact... "Rammstein" emerged from the politically left Wing GDR Punk Band "Feeling B"...Till joined a few Years later.
What a lovely video. Please do more rammstein. ❤
The first time I cried too … as a native speaker it hit‘s very hard … but be sure that EVERY Rammstein Song has a deeper Meaning … sometimes there a so many meanings from other perspectives … it’s sometimes a little bit overwelming … R+ 🤗
We’re here🖖🏼
Great reaction my friend. No one can deny the power of Rammstein. I noticed you don't have a playlist for them. Highly recommend doing it so it's easier to find them all when you've done a heap. There's a shit tonne to do and as long as you do them regularly you've got another sub.
Thanks dude! I need to get my playlist in check.
🙏BEST EVER🙏
Rammstein makes art.
The "creatures" are "The Norns". The 3 female Norns (named: Urðr, Verðandi, and Skuld) are deities in Norse, Germanic mythology who are responsible for shaping human destiny (past, present and future ). They keep the time ticking.
Whenever Rammstein, especially nowadays, releases songs not about Sex but social commentary, I feel like theyre on point. The untitled Album from 2019. The song Deutschland, is really a perfect representation of modern Germany. A country proud of its influences, a land of poets and thinkers for anybody who ever bothered to look beyond the world wars, a country with huge influence in science, so many major inventions and yet a country still 80 years later feeling guilt for its shameful past. A song and music video that will be analyzed in history classes for the next decades if not centuries. Zeig dich, a sequel song to Halleluja, critisizing the church which many Germans are starting to leave more and more due to its controversies. People losing faith in religion. Ausländer, a song about two things, one is colonialism but also sex tourism, packaged in a more funny music video with a bitter undertone.
Then you go to the Zeit album. Armee der Tristen. A song about somebody in a vulnerable position in life who is being exploited and manipulated by populist movements/leaders to fight for their cause. "Marching against happiness".
Youre reacting to Zeit right now, less of a social commentary but a very thoughtful and deep song. Many fans initially didnt like it because "its not rammstein" but our boys arent the youngest anymore, theyve been through life, lost family members, been near death themselves, its not the same edge they had 25 years ago but its something different and something representative on how they currently feel. i personally love the song and especially the music video, genuinely one of the best ive ever seen. and its funny seeing people shocked at the two birth scenes because what people often say, rammstein puts a mirror in front of society. and when you take a step back, why are you shocked at the most natural thing ever that literally everybody has been through? a birth.
Zick Zack, a rather funny video about people being more and more obsessed about beauty surgeries.
Angst, a very topical song (and great music video) about normal people being manipulated by populist leaders/dictators/personalities through media. Spreading fear about immigrants that isnt justified. The one spreading the fear is portrayed as a psychopath while the immigrants with dark skin are portrayed as relatively innocent, caged in a small area of barbed wires.
And even going back to 2005, Mann gegen Mann, a song critisizing homophobia.
Im not the oldest man yet but if I had to guess why young people nowadays have so many issues regarding mental health and entering adult life is a bunch of factors. We have complete freedom in our future, in what we do after school. Continue to pursue education? Work immediately? What if I dont like the job? What if i dont like the education im pursuing? I myself have friends who are in their late 20s, even early 30s, who still are not working full time jobs because they havent found something they can tolerate. The alternative is the old school way of simply starting to work at your parents place or just starting to work at a company nearby that you/your parents have good relationships with. Humans can thrive when restrictions exist. More people are being creative in minecraft than actual painting. Restrictions give us a clearer path, less things to worry about. And im not saying we should be more restrictive, I think we should definitely stay in what we currently have which is the freedom to pursue the career we want, Im just pointing out the disadvantages that come with it. It reminds me of a shark trying to find a fish to eat in a swarm of fish. he cannot chose one because he is overwhelmed by the choice, so he struggles to attack and eat one.
On top of that the western lifestyle comes with a lot of responsibilities, its a very complicated life. A lot more paper work, insurances, a lot of planning and worrying. It can simply be too much for some people. I have family in Thailand and while they might not earn the salary I do, they have a much more simple life as things are far less bureaucratic, theres less planning, less worrying, more living in the moment. they are rather happy people simply enjoying life with what they have.
rammstein is just incredibly heavy but also beatiful at times. This is for sure one of their best songs and videos. Can't wait for you to listen to more of their stuff. Also there is a channel on yt, educatedmarine, who translates the songs and has some custom videos for their hidden gems.
I see you have reacted to slaughter and lorna, i wanna suggest another deathcore band: paleface swiss. Not sure what song in particular, i guess Curse Us is a nice one, tho the uncensored version might be triggering for some people. Personal fav is please end me.
Nice reaction:D
Amazing band, awesome track…nothing wrong with knowing yourself.
That was a great ramble. Very heartfelt and true. No need to apologize for that. ••• Disk! HOVER!!!
I strugle every day. Feeling worthless and useless, unable to provide for my family due to an injury, causing my 72yo wife to continue working. I feel that the only thing I have to use what offer is my life insurance. It's channels like yours and artists like Ren and others that help me stay around .
Sending you love man.
All i can say is: Carpe diem . People , hug your Wife. Spend Time with your Friends, your Kids. Be happy today ‼️
Well said!
A beautiful song, indeed Thanks!
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thank you
Try out Rammstein "Donaukinder". Another great song, touching a "taboo" event in history. There's no official video, just a usermade with english subs. But it 's definitly a must see. (and hear).
Rammstein is a rabbit hole. Lyrics are deep in meanings. Most songs are worth to google the deeper meanings. But lots also have not just one view, they play with words so meaning getting 3D. Sounds strange but it like i said. An older song: Klavier. ... is one of these. Great reaction, your an grown men, as just kids think, not to cry is an strength. 💪 life can be a bi..c., but were able to choose how deep were getting fu..ed.
Apparently at the very end you can hear the last breath of a dying person.
What we really know about death that's nobody comes back
❤
The world become a very dangerous place. We need always indignation with bad things.. if you don't mind I will love you listen Gil Scoot Heron..." The revolution will not be televised" it's a masterpiece.
Thank you very much and have a nice weekend 😊
If you like this kind of epic,you should react to the soundtrack of our lives from sweden.