One important thing you forgot to mention, any recognizable face or sometimes landmark in any of your stock footage requires paperwork confirming permission to film. You can't just go to a market and point your camera at a random person. Also, I wish you mentioned some of the reliable stock sites to sell your footage on that have a good financial return. Some sites ask for a larger percentage per sale.
Yep, great point here ^ -- we talk about all of this in the full podcast discussion. We also talk about a bunch of other types of Stock that are selling well right now like Probe Lens or Macro shots
You can shoot videos of random people without permission, but will just have to be uploaded as "Editorial". This won't be able to be used for the same types of commercial customers, but can still definitely sell if shot well.
The title should have been "Ultra highend stock footage that you will never dream of producing". And that's actually not even close to being an "ultimate guide" but rather "quick tips".
Great stocks and I just bought in on them, but I'm interested in making short term profit, let say turn a $150K to $500k in 6months, I'd appreciate tips on how what stocks to buy to make this much profit.
I work for a major stock footage company, time-lapses are dead to us and our clients. Please no time-lapses. Thank you for saying this here. Also, Hyperlapses are pretty saturated at this point. I recommend just shooting really cinematic establishing shots in place of time or hyper lapses.
The *correct* terminology is *LICENSING* stock footage vs. “selling” it. “Selling” to a customer can suggest that once they buy it, they own it. *Licensing* still, motion, and video footage, on the other hand, grants the licensee limited, non-exclusive rights that are still owned by the copyright owner (filmmaker).
Stock footage is an INSANE amount of work, in a super saturated and degrading market, for very little pay... unless you have a very specific talent or access to something that not a lot of people have (like a helicopter, high speed motion control bot, phantom, etc). 14 months in, 6961 clips, and $288 of revenue in July.... TRUST that there was more than that spent in just gas getting these shots.
@@paulybluenose Yeah, it's been bad.. and it seems like every other day, there's a membership platform launching for less than $50 a month with unlimited downloads. Talk about a race to the bottom. :( The thing that really sucks, is that I've got money invested in models, gear rental, locations, travel, etc for these clips. I'm not shooting grasshoppers in my back yard.. Most of it (70%) is fully released commercial footage, with about 30% being editorial... Surprisingly, I'm actually selling more editorial than I am commercial at the moment.
I make about 250 bucks a month from stock footage I shot when doing real estate videos and I can say that almost all of the real sellers are aerial footage. The generic aerial footage of cityscapes and for me beaches are the good sellers if the footage is seriously top quality but I noticed more and more that my footage gets flagged and rejected if it has even the most vague of things that could be recognized. A full days worth of footage was rejected because of the quote-unquote architectural intellectual property of a water treatment plant in the background of my footage so take extra special care to make sure that NOTHING in your footage is rejectable.
@@JamesDailyTV Most of it is vague enough that I dont need releases but when I've shot famous local hotels or landmarks I've asked and they say no... They're all super protective of their brand. If its an exceptional clip i'll still uplod as editorial but thy rarly ever sell and if they do I dont get nearly as much... Maybe a fourth of the normal price
Indy Mogul has been blowing up lately in regards to popularity, most likely due to them sticking to script of what they did before, but adding in more quality, and relevance to such a significant into such an urbanized esc. platform. Ive been watching since the beginning with the man, the myth, the legend, Erik. Keep it up guys.
I like how you ignore your own question of “is it legal?” 🤣 It depends on your contract with the client. Sometimes they claim ownership of all footage filmed and ask for it to be in their archive too.
Nice video and very informative! But people keep in mind, especially for these arials, selling these without a flying permission in the city may get you in trouble
I'm commenting before I watch this video: I've explored the math side of selling stock video and I find in a number of examples, its not actually worth your time. Its time consuming to edit, tag, upload etc for a chance someone might buy it. That time could easily be more productive towards working on a project, even if its a personal creative project. That project might not sell in of itself (ad money maybe), but it helps you grow your skills and exposures that will pay more dividends into the future. If fewer people were selling their stock footage, it would create more paid jobs. A client wants an areal view of a City? Guess we got to get a videographer with a drone. But with everyone putting up next to free content online, its cheaper for the client to just pick on of those. That could be good for the client. But the guy that actually took it might make $100, got underpaid and probable has moved on out of selling stock footage so probably feeling a little remorse for the time and effort he put into it to get $100. But, I do believe in free markets. So I wont bash anyone selling stock footage. Do what you want.
It's an investment. Normal projects are one time jobs, but stock footage are stacking up, and in the long run you will be selling stuff made 5 years ago
With 2.7 billion smartphones in use, if even 10% of them being wannabe photo/video gurus (myself included)... I'd have to say the market is... um... saturated. And that doesn't include the folks with real skills who have to deal the the people trying to be millionaires by doing work on 'fiver'. The 'under-cutters' are only cutting their own wages.
I'll disagree. I'm only starting out in stock (but have been shooting for 30+ years) and only have 600 clips on-line but I made $300 last month. Not a ton of money but one of the clips was something I shot for a client 5 years ago so it was already paid for. You need to shoot with a purpose and make quality footage to make money at it.
Stock footage can become outdated in 5 years. Depends on what it is I suppose. And I don't know what the markets are going to look like in 5 years in this section of the industry. But if I have a spare time and looking to be productive, I think I would get a better return on my investment just getting a job. But over that, I'd rather spend that time getting a new client that will pay me. $100+/hour for client work or next to minimum wage uploading and tagging? I'd rather work on a project. I'm sure there's a return on 8K stuff cause nobody else is doing it. But then again, how many people need 8k footage for cheap? I'm sure 8K TV manufactures would rather hire and have a say what kind of footage they want to be seen on the TV in BestBuy. All in all, there are a handful of good examples of people making money doing stock. 10%?, while the 90% are just wasting their time.
@@chrisklugh The key is to make use of your footage. So if you get client work, figure out a way to be able to sell what you shoot as stock. Then you aren't solely reliant on stock as an income stream. I think most people (realistically) would say it's very hard to have it be your main source of income (I mean...it isn't even ours). If you're freelance you need to maximize your revenue streams and stock is a great way to do it.
Since you mentioned lifestyle stock etc with a person in frame of your stocks, how about the release or consent from the person regarding this? since the stocks maybe would used in commercial and stuff..
Hey guys, thanks for the informative content. I just finished listening to your podcast of the same episode. Something I didn't pick up on was which third party site to use for uploading and tagging content onto multiple stock sites. I'm exclusive right now at iStock but knowing how to streamline and potentially earn more by going non-exclusive would be incredibly helpful. Cheers!
As a marketer, I often look for specific aerials to add to my product campaign video. The latest one was for a low calorie gelato, we looked for lots of beautiful snow mountains. But we then fell in love with two similar but different mountains: Dolomites in Italy, and in Washington, US. We paid couple hundred dollars for both stocks. Not sure how much royalty/commission you get but i think it’s good passive income opportunities there.
Love all your content. I kind of wish you had actually done the tutorial with a drone and not implied that you need to shoot 8K raw at 60fps to succeed with stock. It’s obviously not true. I feel like accessibility and “Indy” factor was the main selling point of this channel.
It's all been said is little discouraging that should not be done in my opinion. Stock footage is a passive income. You can't force on it more. And in no way, we can say that 1080p is obsolete anytime soon. Although I would suggest 4k to be a great option which is fairly cheap right now for anyone out there. But 8k, raw? These would be great but it is bullshit to start selling stocks. Also, consistency is the key here. You have to keep uploading to agencies. Add proper tags, descriptions, titles, etc. The rest of it depends on your luck. There are people out there who are having a living out of stock footage. As the world is getting advanced people are getting lazy and finding cheaper options. So in my opinion the stock market has a bright future.
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Ok, so years ago they came to the conclusion that somewhere between 9 to 11 megapixels equaled the same resolution and quality that 35mm film could produce t least in stills for a high quality large print. So 8K is around 25 megapixels. Larger than my Canon 80D. Except for cropping and zooming in a frame for quality. Why does anything need filmed at more than 4K?
Ayechino Prod. Your probably right, I’ve just heard some people say upload without audio and figured this would be a great place to set things straight 🙂. Thanks for taking the time to reply!
Some stock video sites require you to delete the audio from clips unless it contains important information, like the car sound during Formula 1, or a person talking to the camera
Hi, thank you for all the help! I am a bit at a loss about sound recording for Indi filming. I hear quite a bit about mics, cables, cameras and recorders. I rarely get much info about the right way to do it. I'm lead to think that either I put each multi mic into its own separate camera, or its own recorder, or maybe a laptop on budget. Usb, multi track programs, rode wireless, syncing? I feel the audio recording multi track recorders and syncing have always been far behind video innovation. How can I record multi separate audio tracks in a film? Should I buy the rode lavaiers , record quality into my Cannon, use a separate audio recorder for each vocal? Is sending audio to a laptop the same as a Tascam in quality? It's going into my computer to edit right? I've seen no audio video on UA-cam that simply explain how to record separate mics to separate tracks in a drive of any kind. Seems even 8- Tracks only can record 2 channels at once right? Please help us! Thank you!
Yep, other than the helicopter stuff, we were just using a Ronin S and a 4k DSLR for the day. Luke works a lot with Panasonic, so can't go wrong with the Panasonic GH5s.
Awesome video as usual, but I have a question about using people in your stock shots. Do you need to get a release form or anything like that from anyone that’s in the shot?
Indy Mogul thanks for the reply! Any chance there’s a good resource for information on how to go about writing a well put together release? Or information on when you might not need one? (I doubt that every person crossing a crazy NY city street took the time to sign someone’s release form lol)
Give me a scenario where I would need 8K footage. Seriously. Yes, stock footage is a lucrative field. I've shot some myself, but, haven't kept up with producing more due to time (and money) constraints. All the sources I've looked into, including BlackBox whom I send my stock footage to, have said that the format that sells the most is HD. Don't let anyone fool you. It takes time and money to produce stock footage on a consistent basis. Look at this video. Two guys flying in a helicopter shooting stock footage. Can anyone do that? Of course not. But, 8K? Most feature films are shown in 4K at most. Most audiences wouldn't know the difference between 4K and 8K. So, why?
There might not be a scenario where you specifically need it, but there are a lot of scenarios where other people need it...right now. Today. I figured the decision to shoot stuff in 8K would pay off in 5 years (maybe...if we're lucky). In reality it's already paid off in 2019. Many more people interested in it than I thought. We also have 1080p available because proxies are easy to make ;) The point is more, if you're shooting stock, try to future proof as much as possible. That has to do with the gear that you choose but also (very much) the style/grading
Stock Bonus Clips. You already on own a camera, on location, own a 4K drone. The market is 80% 2K, 20% 4K, maybe 50/50 in an age of streaming. Zero market for 8K, 16k since the little perceived value value. 8K might be useful in 360 Camera
So what is the legal process of this? What I mean is, when you film at these locations do the people in the video and the business have to sign a contract of sorts?
@@LukeNeumann Drones! You can not take off or land a Drone in NYC (Manhattan). From any park. You also can not fly a Drone over people's heads unless they are the operator flying the drone. I suppose you could take off from NJ and fly around the water and the outside of the city, but that all depends on how long your battery lasts. :) aerials from a helicopter are fine.
Some wolfy utubers even by buy these stocks to make doubloon films about subjects they steel from elsewhere. And then utub watchers say : so beautiful, so beautiful, I've never seem something so beautiful. So nothing's bad in the pig.
Nothing about setting white balance or other camera settings. I noticed that some of Luke's footage was in PAL, but apart from that I have no idea of what you think are viable options. Note that not all countries broadcast in NTSC 1080p30.
They're not here to hold your hand dude, if you don't even know how to properly set up your camera to shoot, then have no business shooting stock footage at all.
@@AyechinoProd They're here to teach. Lots of UA-cam teachers miss stuff out. I'm here to learn. Camera settings matter when one is shooting JPEG, which is what video shooters are doing. When I make photographs, I shoot raw, never JPEG, and refine later. There's much less scope for refinement with JPEGs. Most UA-camr teachers tell their students to use NTSC settings. There's a handful of countries where that might be appropriate, and then only if the target is broadcast. UA-cam doesn't care. NTSC is never appropriate in Australia, NZ, Europe including UK, Africa, almost all of Asia, or maybe with one exception, South America. I know all that, but probably most followers of this channel do not. If there's a quick and easy way to set colour temperature, I want to know. So should you.
OneEyedPhotographer 1. RAW/JPEG have nothing to do with this video. 2. You obviously film PAL/NTSC based off where you live.. which is common sense. 3. You honestly can’t do a quick google search or even know your camera enough to adjust your white balance?
@@AyechinoProd I don't see why you're getting so excited about this. Without answering these questions, this isn't the ultimate guide. And getting the correct white balance can't be done without some kind of measurement. In my living room, I have various LED lights and a skylight, no two the same. Another home has halogen lighting, it doesn't match incoming daylight at all. It's pretty clear to me that you don't even understand the questions.
OneEyedPhotographer no I can clearly understand the question, I just don’t wanna entertainment it cause it’s stupid one. But I guess you’re just that lost with basic camera fundamentals. White balance settings change as you change environment, that’s the exactly reason why cameras have a auto white balance button/switch that does all that work for you....
*COPYRIGHT NOT BEING DISCUSSED WHEN CREATING STOCK FOOTAGE* : If you do start creating & submitting stock media footage, make sure you "timely" *register* your copyrights with the US Copyright Office to protect your work from infringers. Just watch the first 20-seconds from this Washington, DC copyright attorney video to understand why: ua-cam.com/video/cBOKkrleY3Y/v-deo.html
Luke was already getting paid by a tech company to shoot the aerials for a commercial. Part of the contract and what a lot of filmmakers don't know is that you can actually make it a part of the agreement to also be able to use the footage to sell as stock.
No. They want healthy, clean, friendly, average looking people in footage and if you are shooting television commercials then someone who looks similar to a popular celebrity is used.
@@Steger13 Taking a drone over a city is risky, no matter the city, but LA is particularly challenging because there's no large body of water nearby and they are EXTREMELY strict about filming of any kind to begin with. So you risk a large fine and are pretty limited on the type of shot you can get. A drone is capable of a lot but a helicopter is capable a lot more and it's...legal. I love my drone and think it's useful for a lot but it's all pretty heavily regulated now.
I think there's more of a market for drone content as its going to become harder to get good content. I know in Canada, drones are practically illegal. You need to have something close to a pilots license to fly a done here.
@@chrisklugh Yeah, it's more or less the same everywhere now. I remember back in like 2013 you could still fly around state parks in California and I got to Bodie (ghost town) like two days before it shifted over and the park rangers just kind of shrugged and let me have at it. Now it's all on lock down (which is actually a great thing). But back to the original point, when dealing with major cities (especially LA), just flying a drone over isn't advised.
An entire library of 8K Stock Footage here. Luke is a mad man. savagestock.net/
Cant view footage on the site, getting an error msg
no site with taht name !
One important thing you forgot to mention, any recognizable face or sometimes landmark in any of your stock footage requires paperwork confirming permission to film. You can't just go to a market and point your camera at a random person. Also, I wish you mentioned some of the reliable stock sites to sell your footage on that have a good financial return. Some sites ask for a larger percentage per sale.
Yep, great point here ^ -- we talk about all of this in the full podcast discussion. We also talk about a bunch of other types of Stock that are selling well right now like Probe Lens or Macro shots
This isn't that kind of video.
You can shoot videos of random people without permission, but will just have to be uploaded as "Editorial". This won't be able to be used for the same types of commercial customers, but can still definitely sell if shot well.
How is that paperwork? Just the person's signature?
@@AndrehT666 You can download some release forms from internet, or from the agencie your uploading your footage to.
The title should have been "Ultra highend stock footage that you will never dream of producing". And that's actually not even close to being an "ultimate guide" but rather "quick tips".
Great stocks and I just bought in on them, but I'm interested in making short term profit, let say turn a $150K to $500k in 6months, I'd appreciate tips on how what stocks to buy to make this much profit.
@maria sandra That sounds great and how do i connect with her ?
@maria sandra Okay i just found her website and left a message for her. thanks.
I work for a major stock footage company, time-lapses are dead to us and our clients. Please no time-lapses. Thank you for saying this here. Also, Hyperlapses are pretty saturated at this point. I recommend just shooting really cinematic establishing shots in place of time or hyper lapses.
The *correct* terminology is *LICENSING* stock footage vs. “selling” it. “Selling” to a customer can suggest that once they buy it, they own it. *Licensing* still, motion, and video footage, on the other hand, grants the licensee limited, non-exclusive rights that are still owned by the copyright owner (filmmaker).
How to make money selling stock footage:
Step 1: Buy a $100,000 camera rig, and rent a helicopter for $1,000 an hour.
And even that's no guarantee.
I can't afford...lol
am laughing lol
Thanks for having us on, Ted and crew! You guys are the best!
dude! thanks for taking us along for the ride!
Stock footage is an INSANE amount of work, in a super saturated and degrading market, for very little pay... unless you have a very specific talent or access to something that not a lot of people have (like a helicopter, high speed motion control bot, phantom, etc). 14 months in, 6961 clips, and $288 of revenue in July.... TRUST that there was more than that spent in just gas getting these shots.
4k?
@@klaasvk8365 Most of it is 4K, yes.
@@JamesDailyTV ooh ok, thanks
JamesDaily wow, that’s not good. It’s a worrying trend for me too with poor recent sales with SS.
@@paulybluenose Yeah, it's been bad.. and it seems like every other day, there's a membership platform launching for less than $50 a month with unlimited downloads. Talk about a race to the bottom. :(
The thing that really sucks, is that I've got money invested in models, gear rental, locations, travel, etc for these clips. I'm not shooting grasshoppers in my back yard.. Most of it (70%) is fully released commercial footage, with about 30% being editorial... Surprisingly, I'm actually selling more editorial than I am commercial at the moment.
I make about 250 bucks a month from stock footage I shot when doing real estate videos and I can say that almost all of the real sellers are aerial footage.
The generic aerial footage of cityscapes and for me beaches are the good sellers if the footage is seriously top quality but I noticed more and more that my footage gets flagged and rejected if it has even the most vague of things that could be recognized. A full days worth of footage was rejected because of the quote-unquote architectural intellectual property of a water treatment plant in the background of my footage so take extra special care to make sure that NOTHING in your footage is rejectable.
How many clips do you have up there?
How are you getting the releases for the real estate stuff? Just out of curiosity... or are you selling editorial?
@@klaasvk8365 I have about 200 and maybe 10 clips consistently sell
@@JamesDailyTV Most of it is vague enough that I dont need releases but when I've shot famous local hotels or landmarks I've asked and they say no... They're all super protective of their brand. If its an exceptional clip i'll still uplod as editorial but thy rarly ever sell and if they do I dont get nearly as much... Maybe a fourth of the normal price
I still get super excited, like a nostalgic form of excitement whenever I hear that little indy mogul jingle that starts off every video
I like how you always talk about a subject and then put it to practice in the same video
Perfect timing for this video! A little discouraging for me to attempt to do this in 1080, but appreciate the tips!
Indy Mogul has been blowing up lately in regards to popularity, most likely due to them sticking to script of what they did before, but adding in more quality, and relevance to such a significant into such an urbanized esc. platform. Ive been watching since the beginning with the man, the myth, the legend, Erik. Keep it up guys.
I like how you ignore your own question of “is it legal?” 🤣
It depends on your contract with the client. Sometimes they claim ownership of all footage filmed and ask for it to be in their archive too.
This is crazy. That short that you keep showing is one I absolutely love. It's a demo for the BMPCC4K and still one of the best projects I've seen yet
Nice video and very informative! But people keep in mind, especially for these arials, selling these without a flying permission in the city may get you in trouble
thanks! And yep -- unfortunately this is why taking a helicopter still gets the big bucks
No one cares, do it anyways. No one became someone special without breaking a few rules ;)
Dude - you crack me up!! And it was good info to boot!! Thanks for sharing this with us!!
you can start watching it from 03:46
Your channel is my online school. Thank you Indie Mogul
Damn. Great to see him. Been following him for so long on youtube from his amazing short films shot with T2i.
Luke is the best! Such a good dude and talented artist.
I'm commenting before I watch this video:
I've explored the math side of selling stock video and I find in a number of examples, its not actually worth your time. Its time consuming to edit, tag, upload etc for a chance someone might buy it. That time could easily be more productive towards working on a project, even if its a personal creative project. That project might not sell in of itself (ad money maybe), but it helps you grow your skills and exposures that will pay more dividends into the future.
If fewer people were selling their stock footage, it would create more paid jobs. A client wants an areal view of a City? Guess we got to get a videographer with a drone. But with everyone putting up next to free content online, its cheaper for the client to just pick on of those. That could be good for the client. But the guy that actually took it might make $100, got underpaid and probable has moved on out of selling stock footage so probably feeling a little remorse for the time and effort he put into it to get $100.
But, I do believe in free markets. So I wont bash anyone selling stock footage. Do what you want.
It's an investment. Normal projects are one time jobs, but stock footage are stacking up, and in the long run you will be selling stuff made 5 years ago
With 2.7 billion smartphones in use, if even 10% of them being wannabe photo/video gurus (myself included)... I'd have to say the market is... um... saturated. And that doesn't include the folks with real skills who have to deal the the people trying to be millionaires by doing work on 'fiver'. The 'under-cutters' are only cutting their own wages.
I'll disagree. I'm only starting out in stock (but have been shooting for 30+ years) and only have 600 clips on-line but I made $300 last month. Not a ton of money but one of the clips was something I shot for a client 5 years ago so it was already paid for. You need to shoot with a purpose and make quality footage to make money at it.
Stock footage can become outdated in 5 years. Depends on what it is I suppose. And I don't know what the markets are going to look like in 5 years in this section of the industry.
But if I have a spare time and looking to be productive, I think I would get a better return on my investment just getting a job. But over that, I'd rather spend that time getting a new client that will pay me. $100+/hour for client work or next to minimum wage uploading and tagging? I'd rather work on a project.
I'm sure there's a return on 8K stuff cause nobody else is doing it. But then again, how many people need 8k footage for cheap? I'm sure 8K TV manufactures would rather hire and have a say what kind of footage they want to be seen on the TV in BestBuy.
All in all, there are a handful of good examples of people making money doing stock. 10%?, while the 90% are just wasting their time.
@@chrisklugh The key is to make use of your footage. So if you get client work, figure out a way to be able to sell what you shoot as stock. Then you aren't solely reliant on stock as an income stream. I think most people (realistically) would say it's very hard to have it be your main source of income (I mean...it isn't even ours).
If you're freelance you need to maximize your revenue streams and stock is a great way to do it.
Since you mentioned lifestyle stock etc with a person in frame of your stocks, how about the release or consent from the person regarding this? since the stocks maybe would used in commercial and stuff..
Hey guys, thanks for the informative content. I just finished listening to your podcast of the same episode. Something I didn't pick up on was which third party site to use for uploading and tagging content onto multiple stock sites. I'm exclusive right now at iStock but knowing how to streamline and potentially earn more by going non-exclusive would be incredibly helpful. Cheers!
Good look removing logos on that 8K city aerial shot
As a marketer, I often look for specific aerials to add to my product campaign video. The latest one was for a low calorie gelato, we looked for lots of beautiful snow mountains. But we then fell in love with two similar but different mountains: Dolomites in Italy, and in Washington, US. We paid couple hundred dollars for both stocks. Not sure how much royalty/commission you get but i think it’s good passive income opportunities there.
Hahahaha my tutorial is in the video! You're right. It's extraordinarily outdated.
Love all your content. I kind of wish you had actually done the tutorial with a drone and not implied that you need to shoot 8K raw at 60fps to succeed with stock. It’s obviously not true. I feel like accessibility and “Indy” factor was the main selling point of this channel.
How much do you need to worry about getting releases for famous buildings and sites?
Thanks for sharing cool tips 🙌
Ted, won’t you need release forms for the persons in the background of the market shots? Or that wouldn’t matter?
Thanks Ted! There’s something about that super smiley friendly Asian, “this is UA-cam! We only shoot things once” guy 😀🕺🏻🎥🏖🇦🇺
Funny. I'm about to do some aerial for the local news here in Orlando, in just a couple hours.
Just discovered you, great finding 👍 thanks for the tips
Been waiting for this for ages! So dope🎥🎥🔥🔥❤️❤️
There was a lot missing in this one...
Fun episode TEd. Thanks for doing it.
It's all been said is little discouraging that should not be done in my opinion. Stock footage is a passive income. You can't force on it more. And in no way, we can say that 1080p is obsolete anytime soon. Although I would suggest 4k to be a great option which is fairly cheap right now for anyone out there. But 8k, raw? These would be great but it is bullshit to start selling stocks. Also, consistency is the key here. You have to keep uploading to agencies. Add proper tags, descriptions, titles, etc. The rest of it depends on your luck. There are people out there who are having a living out of stock footage. As the world is getting advanced people are getting lazy and finding cheaper options. So in my opinion the stock market has a bright future.
I keep hearing blackbox VS pond5...Why not upload to both? Will they not allow it?
Any more information you can give on how you navigate selling the stock footage after it was shot during a client project?
This was great thanks a lot ‘
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Thaank you so much, this is actually very helpful.
4K doesn't sell either. Mostly 1080P
What about getting permission to sell footage of famous buildings?
Ya, there are a lot of copy righted buildings and landmarks that you can't sell.
Same with logos trademarks and drone aerials. Without permission you're screwed
@@247.mp4 this what I mean, I don't really get this advise to make shots of famous places, you can't sell this footage
@@alexmesel Who is saying to get shots of famous places? There's a ton of stuff you can shoot stock for.
@@LukeNeumann Exactly.. People are so dense sometimes.
Great to see a film on this, cheers:)
I can't find the podcast, there's no link on the indy website :/
Thanks for this vidéo
Very helpful
Well, where do you sell the footage?
Great video man!
Ok, so years ago they came to the conclusion that somewhere between 9 to 11 megapixels equaled the same resolution and quality that 35mm film could produce t least in stills for a high quality large print. So 8K is around 25 megapixels. Larger than my Canon 80D. Except for cropping and zooming in a frame for quality. Why does anything need filmed at more than 4K?
Is it best to upload stock footage with or without audio? I’ve uploaded a few without much luck so far 🤔
Glen Reed I’d upload it with audio just so they have the option + they can always remove the audio track.
Ayechino Prod. Your probably right, I’ve just heard some people say upload without audio and figured this would be a great place to set things straight 🙂. Thanks for taking the time to reply!
Some stock video sites require you to delete the audio from clips unless it contains important information, like the car sound during Formula 1, or a person talking to the camera
Tar thanks for the response! So far I’ve been just deleting all the audio but I think I will start leaving some audio like the examples you gave.
this is definitely an interesting topic.
Hi, thank you for all the help! I am a bit at a loss about sound recording for Indi filming. I hear quite a bit about mics, cables, cameras and recorders. I rarely get much info about the right way to do it. I'm lead to think that either I put each multi mic into its own separate camera, or its own recorder, or maybe a laptop on budget. Usb, multi track programs, rode wireless, syncing?
I feel the audio recording multi track recorders and syncing have always been far behind video innovation. How can I record multi separate audio tracks in a film? Should I buy the rode lavaiers , record quality into my Cannon, use a separate audio recorder for each vocal?
Is sending audio to a laptop the same as a Tascam in quality? It's going into my computer to edit right?
I've seen no audio video on UA-cam that simply explain how to record separate mics to separate tracks in a drive of any kind. Seems even 8- Tracks only can record 2 channels at once right? Please help us!
Thank you!
Going right over to buy some 1080...lol
Luke is awesome. I’m pretty sure I have a hard drive with his epic music from back in the day.
Could we get some recommendations on these mysterious "reuploaders" you speak of...pls?
This is my gold for next months but is very hard. Any tip for cheap equipment? Do you think it sells?
Yep, other than the helicopter stuff, we were just using a Ronin S and a 4k DSLR for the day. Luke works a lot with Panasonic, so can't go wrong with the Panasonic GH5s.
I’m in the business now. Thank you for this awesome video.
Why did you shoot it in 60fps thatcher than 24? Does it sell better? Or are you selling it as slowmo
Awesome video as usual, but I have a question about using people in your stock shots. Do you need to get a release form or anything like that from anyone that’s in the shot?
You absolutely do. You also need releases for special locations and famous buildings. Definitely need to do some due diligence.
Indy Mogul thanks for the reply! Any chance there’s a good resource for information on how to go about writing a well put together release? Or information on when you might not need one? (I doubt that every person crossing a crazy NY city street took the time to sign someone’s release form lol)
It's gonna be difficult aerial of the cities now.. I think it's mostly banned now :(
Give me a scenario where I would need 8K footage. Seriously. Yes, stock footage is a lucrative field. I've shot some myself, but, haven't kept up with producing more due to time (and money) constraints. All the sources I've looked into, including BlackBox whom I send my stock footage to, have said that the format that sells the most is HD. Don't let anyone fool you. It takes time and money to produce stock footage on a consistent basis. Look at this video. Two guys flying in a helicopter shooting stock footage. Can anyone do that? Of course not. But, 8K? Most feature films are shown in 4K at most. Most audiences wouldn't know the difference between 4K and 8K. So, why?
There might not be a scenario where you specifically need it, but there are a lot of scenarios where other people need it...right now. Today.
I figured the decision to shoot stuff in 8K would pay off in 5 years (maybe...if we're lucky). In reality it's already paid off in 2019. Many more people interested in it than I thought. We also have 1080p available because proxies are easy to make ;)
The point is more, if you're shooting stock, try to future proof as much as possible. That has to do with the gear that you choose but also (very much) the style/grading
Stock Bonus Clips. You already on own a camera, on location, own a 4K drone. The market is 80% 2K, 20% 4K, maybe 50/50 in an age of streaming. Zero market for 8K, 16k since the little perceived value value. 8K might be useful in 360 Camera
"It's too cool... it's too cool!"
indy where to sell my stock footages? do they accept videos from india and nepal?
there is no site with taht name !
What app or site do you use to upload hundreds of footage and distribute it to variuos stock footage companies in just one go? Thanks
Great, aerial shot does the best, all I need now is to pick up a helicopter..
So what is the legal process of this? What I mean is, when you film at these locations do the people in the video and the business have to sign a contract of sorts?
You can't get any ariel of NYC, it's illegal. :(
@SunFlower True. But they have now made it against the law, which stinks for us responsible flyers.
It's not illegal to get aerials of NYC...
@@LukeNeumann Drones! You can not take off or land a Drone in NYC (Manhattan). From any park. You also can not fly a Drone over people's heads unless they are the operator flying the drone. I suppose you could take off from NJ and fly around the water and the outside of the city, but that all depends on how long your battery lasts. :) aerials from a helicopter are fine.
@@LukeNeumann Plus a lot of NYC is a no fly zone. So... See Griffen's video on drone flying on indymogul. :)
@@Ranger7Studios Yes, you said nothing about drones in your original comment. :)
Some wolfy utubers even by buy these stocks to make doubloon films about subjects they steel from elsewhere.
And then utub watchers say : so beautiful, so beautiful, I've never seem something so beautiful. So nothing's bad in the pig.
"Ultimate"
Dopeeeee!
Did you say that Santa Monica shot has made you $500 today, or to date?
ASIAN DUDE TALKING TO CAMERA IN LIVING ROOM 4K CINEMATIC
WHO SOUNDS LIKE BARACK OBAMA
Nothing about setting white balance or other camera settings. I noticed that some of Luke's footage was in PAL, but apart from that I have no idea of what you think are viable options.
Note that not all countries broadcast in NTSC 1080p30.
They're not here to hold your hand dude, if you don't even know how to properly set up your camera to shoot, then have no business shooting stock footage at all.
@@AyechinoProd They're here to teach. Lots of UA-cam teachers miss stuff out.
I'm here to learn. Camera settings matter when one is shooting JPEG, which is what video shooters are doing. When I make photographs, I shoot raw, never JPEG, and refine later. There's much less scope for refinement with JPEGs.
Most UA-camr teachers tell their students to use NTSC settings. There's a handful of countries where that might be appropriate, and then only if the target is broadcast.
UA-cam doesn't care.
NTSC is never appropriate in Australia, NZ, Europe including UK, Africa, almost all of Asia, or maybe with one exception, South America.
I know all that, but probably most followers of this channel do not. If there's a quick and easy way to set colour temperature, I want to know. So should you.
OneEyedPhotographer
1. RAW/JPEG have nothing to do with this video.
2. You obviously film PAL/NTSC based off where you live.. which is common sense.
3. You honestly can’t do a quick google search or even know your camera enough to adjust your white balance?
@@AyechinoProd I don't see why you're getting so excited about this. Without answering these questions, this isn't the ultimate guide. And getting the correct white balance can't be done without some kind of measurement. In my living room, I have various LED lights and a skylight, no two the same. Another home has halogen lighting, it doesn't match incoming daylight at all.
It's pretty clear to me that you don't even understand the questions.
OneEyedPhotographer no I can clearly understand the question, I just don’t wanna entertainment it cause it’s stupid one. But I guess you’re just that lost with basic camera fundamentals. White balance settings change as you change environment, that’s the exactly reason why cameras have a auto white balance button/switch that does all that work for you....
Who wants to buy my phantom? Saving for a helicopter now...
Any info on how to start my own stock footage website? Step by step guide?
hahaha that rig "...is not indy" :D
but... mmmm... how to sell it?
Awesome
cool
I want stock footage of me watching this video. 😏
Dude looks sooooo high 😂
Never clicked so fast :)
*COPYRIGHT NOT BEING DISCUSSED WHEN CREATING STOCK FOOTAGE* : If you do start creating & submitting stock media footage, make sure you "timely" *register* your copyrights with the US Copyright Office to protect your work from infringers. Just watch the first 20-seconds from this Washington, DC copyright attorney video to understand why: ua-cam.com/video/cBOKkrleY3Y/v-deo.html
Maybe I missed something, but making $500 from a helicopter? Didn't ... it ... cost more than $500 itself?
Luke was already getting paid by a tech company to shoot the aerials for a commercial. Part of the contract and what a lot of filmmakers don't know is that you can actually make it a part of the agreement to also be able to use the footage to sell as stock.
No. They want healthy, clean, friendly, average looking people in footage and if you are shooting television commercials then someone who looks similar to a popular celebrity is used.
Bring back BFX.
8K 60 FPS doesn't sound ideal tbh but I'm no expert
Anyone else getting lost in his eyes?
perhaps he hasn't sold any 8k clips yet because it costs 950 dollars for one 8k-log clip...
so...I guess my GH4 it's not good enough to shoot stock footage...
It is, I have sold a lot from the GH5.
It's absolutely good enough! We've bought a lot of GH4 footage for our own spots.
Shout out to the “all white, diverse” group of people @ 00:15 🤣😂🤣
this video made us 500 dollars and it costed us 1000 for the helicopter🤣
generic aerials / genaerials
Race sells Lolol that is these past two years in a nutshell
Now WAIT A SECOND you buster..... is that living room FAKE?
You can do the same with a drone and probably look the same and cheaper.
Have you tried to fly a drone over downtown LA before? :)
@@LukeNeumann no, why we cant?
@@Steger13 Taking a drone over a city is risky, no matter the city, but LA is particularly challenging because there's no large body of water nearby and they are EXTREMELY strict about filming of any kind to begin with. So you risk a large fine and are pretty limited on the type of shot you can get. A drone is capable of a lot but a helicopter is capable a lot more and it's...legal. I love my drone and think it's useful for a lot but it's all pretty heavily regulated now.
I think there's more of a market for drone content as its going to become harder to get good content. I know in Canada, drones are practically illegal. You need to have something close to a pilots license to fly a done here.
@@chrisklugh Yeah, it's more or less the same everywhere now. I remember back in like 2013 you could still fly around state parks in California and I got to Bodie (ghost town) like two days before it shifted over and the park rangers just kind of shrugged and let me have at it. Now it's all on lock down (which is actually a great thing).
But back to the original point, when dealing with major cities (especially LA), just flying a drone over isn't advised.