Its very close to the higher end brands now but at $800 i would atill get many other 15nm bases over this. Like the new dd+, simagic alpha and asetek. They are just more refined feeling when in use. I know crazy right? Fanatec? Yes its that good now. Also at $800 the outside should be at least 70% metal like the orhers i mentioned. Or something with a heatsync showing etc.
I have a thrustmaster setup at the moment and in looking in to either upgrade to the r12 or the r16. for me i'm drawn to the r16 cause of the dash possibility. What would you recommend?
Just bought a (second hand) Fanatec CLS DD + Formula 2.5 wheel + V3 pedals. Guess that will be more than good enough to start with, but I see myself going for Moza in the future if I need a more potent setup.
That's a great setup that will last you a long time! Good choice. MOZA is looking very competitive throughout different budgets. Who knows how things will look when you come to upgrade in the future!
You are correct, you most certainly can use a Moza ES wheel with the R16 V2 as the ES wheel was the first wheel in the Moza ecosystem to have the newer contact points ( roughly cross shaped as opposed to the older hyphen shaped contact points on the V1 wheels and motors).
Hi! Thank you so much for your reviews, it really helped me a lot. I currently have a Moza R12 base, and I'm looking to spend up to 1000€ for a formula wheel. I'm considering the Moza FSR, F-Core, or Grid steering wheel. Which one do you think is the best option? Alternatively, is there another wheel you'd consider in that price range? Or do you think upgrading my wheel base from 12nm to 20nm or higher would be a better choice?
If you already have an R12 which is fantastic, then opt for the FSR wheel. This will be well under your budget and avoids you having to use conversion kits or physical USB cables. Nice and clean and its a great wheel.
Nice to see that they are doing something with the hardware and software, now the R21, and again a steering wheel with a horn for E.T.S. and .A.T.S and I'll buy it
You're right essentially. I don't think this feature is 100% confirmed, but from what I've seen, the wheel is designed to be Xbox compatible, which is planned to be officially launched at some point in the future. Fingers crossed.
Do Moza Pithouse have presets for the major sims like Fanatec have? I am considering upgrading my Csl DD but I am not very good with tuning my FFB to be honest.
I run a Logitech g923 and I have the same issue, ffb difficult to tune. Spend hours adjusting come back the next time and not the same feeling. Cars always spinning out and unrecoverable. These setups looks expensive as heck.
@@Blackcell567The Moza R5 (5.5 N-M) bundle Direct drive is now $450, a bargain IMO. I has R5, but just got the R9+Moza GS+Fanatec Clubsport V3 pedals. You really need a solid rig to mount these DD bases as they are so strong. Tuning the FFB is pretty easy these days, at least with Moza. There's a lot to learn, but it's not difficult toi dial in.
@@edwinvandenberg3633 and the presets are good? It is the only thing that scares me, i don’t have a lot of time when i play so i don’t want to spend hours tuning my ffb and either way i am bad at it 😅
Its good. It certainly feels different as each brand has its own "feel". This R16 feels a little more raw, thats not meant in a bad way, but the best way I can describe it. They're very comparable in terms of performance, meaning it's more a preference over which ecosystem you like the look of more.
@@SimRacingSetups Thanks for the feedback. I’m upgrading from a very old T500RS but would happily pay a bit more for something at this level as opposed to something like the Moza R8, or CSL DD.
Slightly concerned? Why? This has improved compatibility and nicer force feedback details, but isn't as strong as the R21. Certainly not worth the cost of swapping your R21 for this.
@@SimRacingSetups more so that the R21 V2 is about to be launched also. That’s good to know; presume the improvements to be minimal between R21 V1 and V2 in terms of FFB and look forward to your review of the V2.
Great review! The production value of your videos is getting better everytime! Keep up the great work ❤
Thanks man
Its very close to the higher end brands now but at $800 i would atill get many other 15nm bases over this. Like the new dd+, simagic alpha and asetek. They are just more refined feeling when in use.
I know crazy right? Fanatec? Yes its that good now.
Also at $800 the outside should be at least 70% metal like the orhers i mentioned. Or something with a heatsync showing etc.
Fanatec is trash!
I have a thrustmaster setup at the moment and in looking in to either upgrade to the r12 or the r16. for me i'm drawn to the r16 cause of the dash possibility. What would you recommend?
Just bought a (second hand) Fanatec CLS DD + Formula 2.5 wheel + V3 pedals. Guess that will be more than good enough to start with, but I see myself going for Moza in the future if I need a more potent setup.
That's a great setup that will last you a long time! Good choice. MOZA is looking very competitive throughout different budgets. Who knows how things will look when you come to upgrade in the future!
Stay with Fanatec
U definently should ditch the Fanakek setup in the future
@@chubbs6504nah, He should ditch Fanakek some time in the future
That's a very similar set up to what I used to have you will have fun with it for sure
Awesome video dude. You’re not quite right about the ES wheel compatibility tho. I use the ES on my R16 V2. I’m not sure if it’s an, ES V2 or not ?
You are correct, you most certainly can use a Moza ES wheel with the R16 V2 as the ES wheel was the first wheel in the Moza ecosystem to have the newer contact points ( roughly cross shaped as opposed to the older hyphen shaped contact points on the V1 wheels and motors).
Don't suppose you have any pithouse/ingame settings for the R16? They're very hard to find.
Hi! Thank you so much for your reviews, it really helped me a lot. I currently have a Moza R12 base, and I'm looking to spend up to 1000€ for a formula wheel. I'm considering the Moza FSR, F-Core, or Grid steering wheel. Which one do you think is the best option? Alternatively, is there another wheel you'd consider in that price range? Or do you think upgrading my wheel base from 12nm to 20nm or higher would be a better choice?
If you already have an R12 which is fantastic, then opt for the FSR wheel. This will be well under your budget and avoids you having to use conversion kits or physical USB cables. Nice and clean and its a great wheel.
Nice to see that they are doing something with the hardware and software, now the R21, and again a steering wheel with a horn for E.T.S. and .A.T.S and I'll buy it
Lovely looking wheel and great review! So to confirm it’s not currently Xbox compatible but it could be added a later date? Is that right?
You're right essentially. I don't think this feature is 100% confirmed, but from what I've seen, the wheel is designed to be Xbox compatible, which is planned to be officially launched at some point in the future. Fingers crossed.
Do Moza Pithouse have presets for the major sims like Fanatec have? I am considering upgrading my Csl DD but I am not very good with tuning my FFB to be honest.
Yes! And it's way better than Fanatec....they suc these days!
I run a Logitech g923 and I have the same issue, ffb difficult to tune. Spend hours adjusting come back the next time and not the same feeling. Cars always spinning out and unrecoverable. These setups looks expensive as heck.
@@Blackcell567The Moza R5 (5.5 N-M) bundle Direct drive is now $450, a bargain IMO. I has R5, but just got the R9+Moza GS+Fanatec Clubsport V3 pedals. You really need a solid rig to mount these DD bases as they are so strong. Tuning the FFB is pretty easy these days, at least with Moza. There's a lot to learn, but it's not difficult toi dial in.
If you do upgrade you won't regret it. I did the same 2 months ago and never going back to Fanatec.
@@edwinvandenberg3633 and the presets are good? It is the only thing that scares me, i don’t have a lot of time when i play so i don’t want to spend hours tuning my ffb and either way i am bad at it 😅
For someone who has a Fanatec DD1 and is looking to move away after their……situation…..would say R16 or R12 is the right way to go?
You certainly won’t be disappointed with either of those bases. I’m a big fan of the MOZA ecosystem currently
Thanks for the insight. How does this compare to the Forte?
Its good. It certainly feels different as each brand has its own "feel". This R16 feels a little more raw, thats not meant in a bad way, but the best way I can describe it. They're very comparable in terms of performance, meaning it's more a preference over which ecosystem you like the look of more.
@@SimRacingSetups Thanks for the feedback. I’m upgrading from a very old T500RS but would happily pay a bit more for something at this level as opposed to something like the Moza R8, or CSL DD.
ES works on R16 "v2"
How does this compare with the Moza R21 V1? Have a 6 month old R21 V1 and am slightly concerned!
Slightly concerned? Why? This has improved compatibility and nicer force feedback details, but isn't as strong as the R21. Certainly not worth the cost of swapping your R21 for this.
@@SimRacingSetups more so that the R21 V2 is about to be launched also. That’s good to know; presume the improvements to be minimal between R21 V1 and V2 in terms of FFB and look forward to your review of the V2.
Just got the R12…was debating on this for a while but the extra ~350ish or so difference is a hard pill to swallow
The R12 is a fantastic wheel!
This r16 v2 or simagic alpha mini?
If you want the best price to performance combo, go for the simagic alpha mini and the GT NEO wheel.
Cant really go too wrong which direction you go. Im looking also same thing and actually here R16 V2 + Moza KS are same price as Alpha Mini + GT Neo.
lol makes no sense! Moza r16 or simagic alpha mini 10nm! Just go simagic alpha 15nm and gt Neo wheel