Watch This BEFORE You Buy The MOZA R12 (Review)
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- Опубліковано 4 лип 2024
- This is the MOZA Racing R12, the company's latest addition to their now extensive lineup of sim racing wheelbases which, at the 12nm mark, firmly stands as a solid mid-range wheelbase, hitting the sweet spot for most users.
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0:00 Intro
0:59 Price, Features, Specs
3:08 Quick Release
4:01 MOZA Software
4:35 In-Game Performance
7:22 Comparison to R9
7:45 Reliability Concerns
8:12 Conclusion - Ігри
It isn't a real black friday deal. in the netherlands they put 100 euros extra on it and then discount it.
Wacht serieus? 💀
@@Dutch-McLarenJk82- ja want ik keek afgelopen week nog naar de r5 bundle en die was eerst 549 en nu 649 voor de korting
It's illegal in EU, report them
Dat is illigaal ik zou dat rapporteren
@sanderbernsen thee r5 bundle was 649 on 16/11 in belgium. I took a screenshot back then to compare.
However, the bundle is basically on a permanent sale, so including the sale it was 549 on 16/11. So technically they did not change the priceon black Friday to make it appear a better deal, but it's still really sneaky
Ordered it a few days ago and it arrives tomorrow. I got it with the 70$ Black Friday discount along with a wheel bundle combo for another 70$ off. Also picked up every top sim racing games including 2 years of iracing. Super excited. Been lurking in sim racing UA-cam channels for over two years wanting to dive into sim racing and finally pulled the trigger. The journey begins!
Be patient. Don’t be discouraged if your results aren’t the best in iracing. Takes some time to get consistent.
This is the wheelbase I plan to eventually upgrade to!
Definitely can't go wrong!
Nice! Keep up the hard work
Thanks! Will do =)
You brought me into simracing and now I bought the r5 just wanted to say thank you
That’s awesome! Let me know your thoughts on it
@@OCRacing Honestly a great Wheel for beginners . I have got the FF setting to 100 % and the DD feels great . Would recommend it :)
@@frostysnowman7022 what did you mount it too?
@@halloffamer332sammy6 Just on a table I bought it with a tableclamp
I was contemplating if I was gonna go Moza or Fanatec then I just flipped a coin to decide and I got fanatec. good vid!!
dude, I swear your editing gets better every video
Thanks! I tend to spend more and more time everytime on it D:
I've the R5 and yesterday got the RS v2 which is a bit heavier and larger, and FF it's slightly dampened, but not that much.
I don't like super strong force feedback as I'd like to enjoy driving with a certain amount of challenge without having to crazily fight the wheel to keep the car on track.
Although now I have set the max torque to 100% both in game and on Moza software.
Depending on the car used in AC he FF is almost identical as before with the new settings.
Although sometimes a little bit more torque would be welcome.
As I've bought the R5 as bundle initially, I've now CRP pedals and dont use the ES wheel anymore.
So got sr p lite pedals and es wheel unused, as I've now GS V2P and RS V2 as wheels.
Considering selling the R5 bundle and grab the R12 to get rid of unused pedals and wheel, I guess.
My 5% discount code expires today... or at 12AM last night. Oh boy, would love the CS and R12 wheel. All sitting in the cart and scrounging for a coupon XD
Edit: Top notch video quality btw. Hope to see your channel continue onwards :D
Bought the R12 as my first DD wheel. Price to value ratio is the best, and the performance holds up really well. It’s the best option along with Simagic for those who don’t have a local Fanatec retailer like myself. :)
Simmagic has actually a lot better performance per buck ratio. The Simmagic base has just the higher resolution while also having a better Tourqe level and a peak torque at 13nm (not 10nm as advertised).
@@kreativerjungeI've heard. Did a lot of pondering between the two, but Simagic wheels are very scarce at least in my place, so Moza is the next best thing with their nice lineup of wheels in stock. If Simagic's got a good deal for you, I'd say go for it.
@@kreativerjunge how come, Simmagic state MAX is 10nm.
Never seen giving them credits for FF quality, if there is a comparison please share.
Asetek Prima (12) was best option for me so far, but I will wait for DD+ reviews another month or two.
Hidden gem in R21 actually. Could it be "the end game" or there are issues with it? Nobody compares it with current R12 and Aseteks of this world
@@unotoli Just look at the comparison from Darth Snape there you also find also the answer to why I say the Simmagic Alpha Mini has actually 13nm peak Torque
Hey I mean Black Friday is today lol. Good vid oc!
Thanks 😊
It would be really nice if they had more bundles than R3 and R5
Hopefully more are coming in the future
There is a r9 bundle!
@@Bert1986and R12
Finally! ive been asking Oscar to review the R12 that i bought months ago
Ask and you shall recieve
the problem with the qr is actually because of the cs wheel, i have the same issue with my moza ks but its fine, you just gotta be a bit aggressive when bolting on the steering wheel
Interesting
I have this problem with the original ES wheel on my R5 for some reason.
I've the GS V2P and RS V2 and these two get attached very quickly and easily.
The Qr or ball bearings may need some lubrication.
So one other thing of note. I'm wondering why with the table mount they didn't include 2 sets of washers. Just a small thing. I am forced however between choosing to put washers on the rail that connects the clamps, or the bolts to connect it to the base.
Appreciate the hard work, I recently had my own issues with Moza. I purchased the SR-P pedals with the brake mod which woulda been awesome had I not been sent used gear. I contacted Moza directly which was interesting, their customer service is a joke. I eventually was offered a refund by the US distributor I got the gear from(Sim Motion) but I won't ever order Moza gear again, the anxiety of spending this kind of money & wondering if I'm using someone's old rig..or a test unit that went out for review. Hard pass on Moza, I'm ordering my Asetek gear next week.
Never heard of this before. Where did you buy the bundle?
I've had the R12 for a few months & haven't had any issues getting the CS or KS wheels on & off the base. I am guessing you have it lined up with the top notch when putting the wheel on?
Hope you find out the problem.
I also got my R12 and combined it with the new RS V2 and I have no problem taking the wheel on and off
Will you do a review on the Logitech g pro wheel and pedals
Hello, I'm still driving with my Fanatec CSW V1 since 2012. I'd like to purchase a direct drive Bundle (only base and wheel as I'll stay for the moment with my Fanatec pedals V2). Do you have any suggestions taking into account that I've a flexible budget of about 1.000 Euros? By the way considering that I've never had the chance to try a DD wheel it is worth the change? Thanks a lot for your support
What’s up with the cs? It seems so much nicer than normal
What rig are you currently using?
Damn that CS wheel looks a little different...
Fanatec's Black Friday deals are a little too hard to pass up, but the R12 is still very impressive and good.
Worse than fanatec now
If you had to choose between the T818 and the R12 what would you pick? Because they are the same price here in belgium.
im struggling between the two as well. also looking at the simagic alpha mini
How does it compare to LaPrima?
Hidden gem in R21 actually. Could it be "the end game" or there are issues with it? Nobody compares it with current gen, unfortunately.
Should i buy this or the simagic alpha 15nm? I also plan on buying the moza gs gt wheel and i currently have the v3 fanatec pedals
What did you get eventually? Teste yesterday the alpha, felt great in AC but some clipping (maybe software related). The Prima felt equally powerful and detailed, but no clipping. What goes against Asetek is the weight of the Al rims.
There is a triangle you line the wheel to to stick it on everytime
in the end i went with fanatec, the moza black friday deals were an embarrasment & i managed to get with Fanatec:
-CSL DD
-CSL Elite V2
-Formula v2.5x
-CSL P1
-QR2 base side
-QR2 (fuck paying another £100 for a 2nd one i'll just spend 10 minutes switching the QR2 between the rims)
For just £50 more than the R9 bundle costs from Moza. night and day difference tbh.
Hey man. I just got an alpine Trak racer trx. I need help deciding on a wheel base . It’s between MOZA r12, simagic alpha (15nm), and fanatec clubsport dd+(15nm) help me decide please !!!
12 nm peak, what’s the sustained?
Do you encounter the R12 wheel base motor weird buzzing sound? The sound would apper when power on the base and during driving, especilally on the final long straight line of Nürburgring Norschleife track, motor buzzing sound would became louder then any situation...I' received the wheel base yesterday and troubled me all night...
I think you have to customise the ffb settings. That probably high frequency FF vibration, and it depends on car, game played, and wheel base settings.
This motors are very precise and high torque, so no surprise if they emit vibrations or buzzing sounds. They reproduce everything the game pass on it. Give it time to customise and learn how it works
What wheel is that? Looks like the CS V2, I have that one, but what is going on with the new shifters and clutch
Its the second version of the CSv2. Pretty sure it goes by the same name. Moza has weird ways of releasing updated versions of old products where they just keep the same name.
Looking to upgrade to this base from a G920😅
No way I just did that
Is the r16 that much better then the r12?
Anyone know an ETA for r12 PS5 compatibility?
I’d go fanatec CS DD+ but I prefer Moza FSR
Which wheel is he using with the base? Can’t be CS bc it still has that rainbow strip on V2 model
It’s probably the v2P. The P model has dual clutch paddles added and some cosmetic changes. I want that wheel but not available in my country sadly
Nice review! The R12 is still on my future wishlist (along with the Alpha Mini).
What’s the background music track starting at 4:59? That’s a serious bob!
Hmmmm I’ll take this into consideration (I can’t afford it)
One day 🤝
am waiting for the cammus c5 review
he did it 6 months ago
just realized sorry@@ThinkingPear410
I'm wondering for what pedals the pedal port is since the srp and crp are both seperate usp connections
Nope, they have a cable to connect into the base.
I'm wondering about that CS wheel since it does look a bit different, is it a V3 model or?
I can't find a v3 anywhere
Different buttons, different rpg gauge wrf?
Apparently its just an updated V2. For some reason they didnt call it a V3 and its luck of the draw which one you get depending on how old stock is. I got mine recently but got the old V2. Still happy though I didnt find out about the update till after I had already ordered
@chrissyboy7047 in the end I prefer the old one, these rgp buttons make it look like a toy, at least in my eyes, only the rpm leds look better
@@FataL-Gr I agree, the individual led's look better to me. I think you get clutch paddles on the updated one too
@chrissyboy7047 yes maybe the clutch pedals are useful to some people but I never use them on my ks...feels strange for me😄
good vid
Thanks!
You planning on doing th8s vs Logitech shifter?
Can't say anything about the TH8S (TH8A is great) but the logitech shifter is total crap. It's just a toy basically, plastic on plastic on plastic - just junk quality.
Why would you ever buy this over the r9, who needs that much power, but can't spend more for an r16 or r21 (maybe because of the design?)
How are you pumping videos so quick??!?!?!!??!?!?
no sleep
@@OCRacing 😅
nice
nice
It's Friday😃👍
🤠
This or the simagic alpha mini, cant decide.
I'll be comparing the two (and others) soon!
Compare and do iracing and assert video and make it a FFB based review considering wheeel size to speed relationship and make it long
And where are the “don’t likes” ?
awesome vid(black friday)
Thanks! Don’t spend too much 😅
bruhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh@@OCRacing
7:52 Noted, I need durability
I have been using the R12 since September 2023, and i haven't had an issue, so the reliability is spot on
that intro is pretty hectic lol
I cant belive they ship to afghanistan but not to the majority of countries in latin america
r12 be good
Yes 👍
lol thanks!@@OCRacing
My bank doesnt allow me to pay for the r5 bundle
rip
I dont recognize that wheel 👀👀
I believe it is the CS V2
@@OCRacing hmm but the LED Grid those weren't single LED's 🤣
I also can't remember the button being LED
I'm thinking that might be a V3
First let's gooooo
This belongs to you: 🥇
And this wheel? I dont have see never....
Is it not the CS V2? 😅
its the new csv2p @@OCRacing
🤔🤔🤔
What’re you thinking about?
@@OCRacing
In the end, I'm likely to come back to my first idea.... I've often read that there are problems with the reliability of moza (and I hear it often), but I can't find a place where are these problems identified?
I already know that I won't buy anything from Fanatec.... even if I give the benefit of the doubt, on their new range.
If someone can tell me the vast majority of these problems.... even under the UA-cam videos, I can't get this kind of information, it's frustrating.
And this makes me say, that my first idea is the best (although more expensive)
Claim your early ticket here
🤝
@@OCRacing 🤝
Please for the love of god stop doing the word by word captions.
It's for people with tiktok brain
One big Ad 😂 literally been out ages. Dont wanna cover specs/software. Go elsewhere for proper SIM reviews.
Huh?
I liked my own comment 😅
I liked your comment too
Legend 🤣
Stay Away from Moza - Had had nothing but problems with their products since purchases. I have the H Shifter, Handbrake, KS wheel and Hub and I run a Simucube Pro base. Their hub seems to disconnect and restart always in the middle of races and half the time you have to exit the entire game to reset and your race is over either way. Do yourself a favor and and unless you're stuck with a Moza base, stay away from this ecosystem by a mile!!!!
Simagic Alpha mini 10nm is stronger confirmed by lots and better FFB
5:36 that's me!!!
How is this compared to the GT DD PRO 8nm? I have that and I’m wanting to jump to a new ecosystem
Do you encounter the R12 wheel base motor weird buzzing sound? The sound would apper when power on the base and during driving, especilally on the final long straight line of Nürburgring Norschleife track, motor buzzing sound would became louder then any situation...I' received the wheel base yesterday and troubled me all night...
there is an extremely faint buzzing sound on mine, but i dont notice it at all when i'm racing and it's definitely barely noticeable, when i put it in standby mode i dont hear it. That being said i have extremely sensitive ears, none of my other friends could really hear it until i pointed it out