Camera Overheating? Has Sony Fixed the XPERIA 1 V? Video Torture Test 2023!
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0:00 Conclusion
0:40 Testing JUST the Camera
1:49 Test 1 - 4K at 60FPS
7:56 What Did I Miss?
10:07 Test 2 - 4K at 120FPS
11:54 What this means for REAL world use?
13:17 Tips for Longer Recording
15:13 Accurate Tests Matter - Наука та технологія
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Juan is one of the few Tech UA-camrs doing Xperia phones justice for years! 👍👌
So, Xperias are doing less compression to give higher quality (and this is why they heat up), which probably no other phone does. This is why Xperias are best for videos. This kind of technical information is what no other reviewers do. This is very interesting information.
Yeah, I'm proud to own an Xperia 1 series.
Was thinking of getting 1mk5 vs s23u but on comparisons it seems to drop from 60 to 45fps in games
Seriously Sony FTW. The professional and down to earth approach . Loving it !
This is what Sony has been telling us but now has been shown and explained. Thanks for this!
Nobody has ever tested phones like this
Sony overheated after x amount of time but no one ever mentioned the amount of data Sony processed in that amount of time
Amazing content like always 👍😎
Now THIS is good phone testing! At least with the Xperias you get expandable storage for those massive video files lol
It really comes in handy LOL.
yes 512 Gb + 1Tb microSD.
You can save 22,5 hours 4K 60 (not 120!) fps video on your Sony. Really great camera. Bravo to Sony.
@@DoubleMusicianBig boo to Sony for not accepting last years Experia 1 1V as trade against a new Experia 1 V. Blatant greed.
Dearest,
You are the top Xperia tester in regards of proving the paper numbers on real life. But please help my testing by an answer for Xperia 1mk4 and mk5 in comparison for you having both. For this 64.1.A.0.891/913 mk4's latest firmware upgrade.
1. The slow shutter speed in lowlight 1s manual at 64-200 ISO manual, in the pictures appeare burned/coloured chaotic pixels that ruins the image overall (telephoto is the worst!).This is still happening for you?
2. The low light videos are very dark and its flash is better/stronger on photo than as video torch. Is this issue for your devices mk4 and mk5? Can you recoomend a specific setting/app to have more light (HDR is not helping)?
3. Front cam missing manual and bokeh big time for its wanna-be and how would you get a front selfie bokeh in the mk4 and mk5 compared to you?
4. Even Xperia now have amazing screen brightness after getting warmer the brighness dims and then the OLED have ghosting on mk4 this is on mk5 also?
So can you please make a video with these comparisons tests for the latest firmware upgrades and give some good advices? More even, to send these issues to the software engineers, for that Xperia 1 mk4 to have a chance to its wanna-be? Some people as I know in my country are very dissapointed by this fact and Sont don't even answer to their e-mails with these issues still unsolved.
Thank you so much for helping!
PS: Crapsung is doing crap for Xperia also, Sony should have known that before and test its wanna-be's!
Indeed can put this phone on gimbal and record the city in low light
4k constant fps with high bitrate? Truly a camera for pros!
good for Sony to choose you to review this feature, because i doubt i would get this information on mainstream reviewers
All facts bro.
This is the most informative smartphone video comparison I've ever seen.
I was expecting the Sony Xperia 1 IV to be the 1st one out, but it was not! 😲 Even though it was the 2nd one out, once I learned that it lasted nearly 1 hour while having twice the bitrate, this made me even more impressed it. 👏🏾 The way this was presented was very knowledgeable and thorough. 🤓
wow, a review that actually reviews the devices instead of the reviewer going on a long tangent about how the company should instead make more mainstream phones. this is pretty neat. deserves more views.
No other reviewer mentioned the higher bitrate ever before.. there is a huge gap between the Xperias and other manufacturers, thats insane. Great comparison, Juan.👍
Flagship phones like the IPhone 14 Pro Max and S23 Ultra have high bitrate video options.
Gsmarena always mentions
The heck, sony didn't drop frames with 3 times higher bit rate than the 13 ultra but the Xiaomi did. The most interesting thing about this video is the difference between the 13 ulta and the vivo since both records at the same bit rate. Do you know the average fps about those 2 phones and also the final temperature? Just to see the difference between Mediatek and Qualcomm..
The Xiaomi 13 Ultra and Sony Xperia 1V I truly want!!! They are both so damn intresting!!!!
I remember taking 40+ min 4K 60 FPS video with my Xperia 1 IV, so I was sure and this video is a great proof that 1 V will do just fine with a better SOC 😀
Wow sony
Xperia 1 iv did a great time recording
It seems that the latest system updates have made this phone better
also Xperia 1 v did a crazy time recording with 4k 120 fps
Not for me, it did not change squat!
Just awesome, there are not many reviewers out there putting things into a context rather than just comparing specs and complaining about results or facts without looking at the whole picture. Just like cars I would not expect from a Porsche the same performance at 110 degrees as at 70 degrees and at the same time complain about the way too small trunk for a 4person family..🤪 love your reviews, keep it going! Cheers from Germany!
This year's phone definitely do not overheat as much as they do in the past years. Definitely something to look forward too.
Thanks to Snapdragon 8 Gen 2!
Yes, but way too overpriced. Sadly.
It doesn't overheat as much, but it still overheats.
43 Celsius after 30 min of UA-cam
You should make same test outside .As its different humidity and we have wind which make differrences to cool down too .Also same test with HDR video .Cheers
Excellent video! Thanks Juan!
The Xperias will still remain underrated despite all of this but its great to see these kinds of tests instead of just hearing someone say "the phones overheat quickly" without much context. On a side note, I love that MAXX figure on your shelf.
I adore the maxx ... That comic reshaped my idea of comics storytelling without just being a cynical "grim dark" or satire. It's amazing.
Thank you so much for this review. This is so eye-opening because most of the tech reviewers were shitting hard on Sony. Seeing how extremely well the Sony 1V performed & even how well the 1 IV did in comparison to what other UA-cam reviewers said about it, I'm extremely impressed by Sony. I'm now even more convinced to buy the Sony Xperia 5V because it has the main lens of the 1V. I don't care so much about the zoom lens since it's not its best quality of lens anyways & the screen is 1080p instead of the 4K the 1V has, which consumes more battery & will make the phone hotter. I hope in the future Sony makes a 5VI or 5VII with LTPO, 256GB, Telephoto, maybe a 2K screen even though it's not a deal breaker if it doesn't because 1080p is good & it'll mean less heat & longer battery life
Another great video Juan. Can't say I was surprised that the Pixel tapped out first but it was working harder than some of the other phones. My take home message from this video is that these phones can accomplish a lot and for most of the time, we don't even come close to pushing them to their limits. Xperia 1 V is a monster! Loving it
Great job on another great detailed video juan.
Oh wow! This is the most helpful tech review I have come across. Your explanation helps to understand how different the phones are and why they behave as they behave. Thank you! I am subscribing to your channel!
As always great review!
250GB for 1hr. This is why I want a phone with a micro SD card slot. If you shoot 4K on holiday all your storage will be full.
bUt mIcrOsD cArD iS oUtDaTeD aNd iRrEleVanT. 🤷♂️🤷♂️
It would be interesting to see S23U in this test.
Watched on Patreon. Here for the main video.
dude, THANK you for making these videos. Literally nobody else has covered this.
Great to see real reviewers like you pushing a phone to the max. It's about time people start realize that millions of subs doesn't mean great content.
You really hit some points that are way more professional than your usual average consumer would deal with on a day to day basis.
And for Sony to do what other companies wouldn't do and then go like nah it's not enough we doing it better that shows what level of pro grade phone the Xperia is.
❤
Nice video. My only suggestion for next time would be when you mention a previous video you did if you could make it easier to find. I almost missed it in the description section.
Bitrate of Xperia devastate rest of phones. Thats the true test. Very good video mam 👍 120mbps when you compress data to 10-15mbps it looks like lossless.
18mins went by fast.. I wonder why🤔
Great content 👌🏾
Good to see that you give kudos to the 1IV which i have Sony has done everything they could to improve the overheating isues i persontly never experience any of these isues anyway i will upgrade to 1V. Thanks for the the video and keep up the good work.
Best showcase of smartphone video shooting comparison.
That Sony Xperia 1 IV is very impressive. Not the first to tap out at more than double the bitrate on a Samsung node.
thnks. I want a Sony 1 V, maybe you made a video explaining how use that camera.
Could you please test the phones with an app, mcpro24fps which has a inbuilt dropped frame counter? Android has a problem with dropped frames.
This is what I like to see
While other reviews think Sony should do « this » or « this » because they « want/need to sell more » and « they don’t do things good »
That's why I stopped watching large popular channels. I really question their credibility as a "reviewer" and "techies".
@@farishanafiah8461 The thing is, they don't review the phone for what it says it does but for what they want the phone to do. That's not a review then, but a wishlist at best
what about the powerdraw? and what's the bitrate for iphone 14 pro's 4k60?
I just received a new small update notification no my xperia 5 1V can you go a little bit into what it fixes ?
Juan, I've been watching your content for years and was wondering . What is the most LGesque phone out there these days?
thank you for indexing video.
I wonder, what if, Camera-focused phone maker would adapt the physical cooling fan system like in those gaming phone.. Wont that be awesome?
The bit rate issue is complicated. A high bit rate can be just because they want better quality, or they could in fact be saving power and skipping some of the encoding steps. Canon cameras used to record at very high bit rate because they didn't have the CPU power to do the compression.
So the higher bitrate is likely due to wanting to save processing power for capture rather than for compression? This was the biggest question I had while watching this video: Why such a high bitrate for the Xperias?
could that be the secret for those of us stuck with other phones? Just get a third party app that does more direct encoding?
@@nikytamayo the issue is how fast it can store data. Some phone have slow storage, so higher compression would be needed to keep the bit rate below the maximum rate of the storage device.
@@jakedailey1054 without doing an analysis of the resulting files it if imposible to say whether the high bit rate is actually making fit a better quality video, or just a larger one.
@@KeithBab gotcha. I should check my onboard and see what kind of storage it is.
On my xiaomi 12T there’s an option in settings of video mode for whether you want to automaticity turn down the frame rate, does that work?
I think video footage recording will behave very differently when its a static shot like this compared to something moving making the autofocus and stabilization work harder
Yes. By design. I can't account for every phone being handled in EXACTLY the same way. Even building a ridiculous rig to mount all six at the same time, phones on the outside of that rig would be handled differently than phones on the inside of that rig.
Basically, anything you do beyond my setup here will additionally tax each phone and likely reduce overall recording time.
@@SomeGadgetGuy Always good to find a base line.
This makes me wonder about the bit rate too. Do phones use variable bit rate? In that case it would make sense to have a small bit rate on a static shot like this and the sony could be seen as bad for not adapting it.
If its fixed then its a clear winner of course.
Another amazing video! The level of insight is, as always, through the roof!
I am getting an admission in the Bagnell Institute of Smartphone Testing, who else?... Amazing video as always Mr Bagnell, more content like this will be nice
Trust me, When it comes to bitrate, sony is the best smartphone for doing that.
I'm glad to have an Xperia 1 series phone. Very nice!
Thanks for the test! May I know what is the video editor at 16:32 ?
LumaFusion 👍
Juan, I don't need a Xperia 1 V... Why it has to be so good? 150 of bitrate? That's insane!
@@nickthaskater according to GSMARENA even on 8K video its only 85mb/s max
@@nickthaskater i was talking about s23 series
@@nickthaskater right? But according to Gsmarena it is not.
How did you get such long recordings with the Xperia 1 iv? I tried a similar test myself with airplane mode and dimmed screen but 5 min in the overheating warning came on. Why the big difference? If I could record for 30 min, I would keep my 1 iv as I like to record instructional videos…I will probably get the 1 v but if I can keep the 1 iv, I would. Anyways, thanks for the video
Hey Juan, have you found the 1V to actually shoot reliable frame rates? Like when at 4K120 does it drop frames?
My friend sent me some iphone "120" footage and it was a nightmare to edit, it varied from like 70 to 110 and never actually hit 120
I shoot really short clips in 4K120, but dropping them into Resolve, I don't see a lot of dropped frames. Resolves lists them all as 119.8. Stats on VLC look similar. It's kind of remarkable considering the sony bitrate in HEVC is 150Mbps.
That's great to know thanks, as I am trying to add phone footage into a resolve timeline with proper camera footage I need those frame divisions lining up properly. It's obscene that all the other phones are trying to push their on-paper specs, but can't actually deliver in the real world@@SomeGadgetGuy
I'd buy this phone in a heartbeat but Canadian carriers don't support it officially.
8:46 Are you sure higher bitrate means more processing? RAW data isn't compressed and produces a big file. It's all about the compression settings. More processing can produce better quality and smaller size. So I don't think bitrate means much if the quality isn't set to an equal setting.
Good point!!! Well that would be a win for others if they need half the bitrate to achieve the same quality...
It would be interesting to know which phone gives best video recording
I did 33+ minutes video in HAWAII on my LG V60 , never overheated .
You can select bit rates in 4k/60 fps from 48 , 64 and 80 Mbps.
For a phone I got for $150 on Ebay
Snapdragon 865/865+/870 are fabricated by TSMC and they never see any sign of overheating.
There's also graphene sheets you can stick over the back, no idea how well they will work.
Still don't understand why no one companies moving into av1 yet, the sd 8gen2 had that features already
Software costs money.
Nobody wants to spend on this
What's the bitrate of 4k120?
That freedom temperature is a bit confusing but interesting nonetheless.
Sony is SONY !!! ❤️
pro xperia needs pro reviewers like u
Man, been wondering about this and what your thoughts are on the phone.
It's a GOOD update.
Worth the price, or would you recommend another Sony phone?
Wait, you had snow in Miami?...
This is the big one for those of us who actually work with these things!
I've sometimes struggled with frame rate drop while doing in car video in summer heat, and it isn't always practical to shove a phone cooler on when you're mounting to the windshield. Suxks to need to switch back to am older pre 8 Gen 1 phone for work like that. I actually carry two phone cameras when covering events just to avoid down time. Yeah, at that point, some people would just go phone plus camera, but two (or three) phones are still more pocketable than a phone & camera combo.
More and more likely to get kicked out of events with a legit camera now too.
@@SomeGadgetGuy I started using cellphones for published car photography because security gets antsy when you park and pull out a "professional" camera. Even a compact mirrorless. If you're pulling over and whipping out a phone, they'll assume you're just Instagramming.
And then you get to theaters and events venues... granted, when I'm shooting am event, I do wish for better low light and flash performance, but they're usually well lit!
@@SomeGadgetGuyYes very true!
Awesome Xperia 💙
This should be shared by Sony themselves.
Everyone talking Sh*t about overheating and it turns out the bitrate is double than its competitors
Was thinking of getting 1mk5 vs s23u but on comparisons it seems to drop from 60 to 45fps in games
I have the Xperia 1 v and it performs much better than the mark iv in terms of heat. However, I tend to always record in 4K 60fps+ in HDR.
I feel HDR causes more heat than SDR, can you do a 4K 60fps HDR test to see if there is a noticeable difference? I think I'll do an SDR test myself too.
I doubt shooting in HDR with 1 V will give you any problem this year, they really did improve the cooling....Can I ask how is your battery life on that one?
@@Joxe-qp6bq I'd say I'm a pretty heavy user, so I tend to charge at least once in the middle of the day. No complaints though, I think it's enough for a days use if you drain it all the way.
From my HDR tests with 4K 60fps HDR, I stopped it after ~14 mins without an overheating warning, but when I attempted to restart it, it stopped and threw a cooling down warning, though I did run a 4K 120fps HDR test just before which ran for about 8 minutes before...I think I stopped it...maybe.
I haven't had the phone long enough to tell, but in normal use, it's great, but I have still encountered it stopping to cool down, this is mostly after wireless charging and going straight to 4K 120fps though.
I'm still happy, but still wondering how some UA-camrs got 3 hours of recording.
I also tested 4K 30fps HDR, it got about 40 mins in close to 30 degrees celsius, I was away from the phone so I'm not sure why it stopped, though I assume heat.
My Sony Xperia Pro-1 overheats like crazy as well, I found one solution is to get a gaming phone cooler fan. It's a peltier type cooler with a fan built in and it can extend my video recording time for a while, though you might pick up the fan noise on the mic.
Motorola fan here, does the sony's have a desktop mode? I think that might help. I just order the Edge+ 2023. I hope the Ready For (RD4) help me ditch the laptop for spread sheets and word processor. But I intended to use as a on budget astrophotography with a ported GCam and I hope the Moto would be able to handel that. This video will be help full when that time comes.
Unfortunately, no. Sony only gives wired video output, but that's about it.
This is why i always told people that Sony Xperia 1 series are not mere "flagship" phone. They are phone for professional that are aimed for specific kind of users. It is very rare to find a phone that is specifically built for certain target nowadays.
It's really a shame. Phones are SO Much more interesting when they have a purpose. We accept this with laptops, but everyone wants to talk about phones as "basic communicators".
Hi Juan, I don't really understand how the Sony is recording double the data for the same resolution and frame rate. Does that mean there is more information being recorded on the Sony, somehow? Or is it something to do with the files being less compressed? I always thought you had a certain number of pixels at a certain rate, and that's your data - but obviously there's a lot more to it.
Video is just like any other media. You can take the raw data off a CD or make an MP3. You can take the full camera sensor data or make a jpg. As soon as you make a smaller "package", you can adjust how much info you're saving.
Juan; after watching your FIVE videos on this handset I've preordered this; it is due out on 29th June here in the UK.
The overheating is what tipped me towards upgrading my Xperia 1 IV which I really like, but at times the screen gets really hot.
So these new phones will get really hot too when you drive them hard, but they handle those thermals a LOT more gracefully. Samsung owes the entire phone industry a big apology.
@@SomeGadgetGuy it's almost as if they did it on purpose as the UK and Europe always put down their Exynos CPU in their flagships compared to the rest of the world. It was always seen as the slightly worse performing on synthetic benchmarks and it was later getting gaming enhancements features.
I actually really really like my Xperia 1 IV, the camera is really good and having a headphone jack again, so good. I'm using Shure 215 IEM for listening to music
Does a screen protector make a difference for heat dissipation? Looks like the Sony 1 IV was the only one with a screen protector.
Majority of heat comes out through back panel.
@@OmarSS87but temp from screen goes through screen display.
whats the bitrate at 4k 120 like, how high bitrate can you go
It's already mentioned in the video, 150Mbps.
Love the explanation behind the work... Not just I like this better. I don't think many ppl would have realized the Pixel could overheat and stop vid recording over the Xperia 1 iv... Another great comparison.
I'll leave the shallow "sony names are so CONFUSING" reviews to others. I think this stuff is more fun.
Now that the Pro-I is $999 with the vlogging kit, is that a competitive option because of the larger sensor, or is the new sensor here better because of the dual layer design? I pre-ordered the 1 V but saw the Pro-I at Best Buy for 999. It's a gorgeous looking phone that looks very professional.
The dual aperture is handy, but the 1V is better in practically every other way.
@@SomeGadgetGuy Hell yeah, thank you sir for the confirmation. I'll wait patiently for my khaki green 1 V in July 28!
Xperia will always hold the 👑 for camera, speed,ram management, optimization and build quality.
But is making a smartphone or a smart camera
What is the pro of that sony xperia iv 120mbps?
Higher bitrate means more quality. You can downscale the video output to 10x less bitrate and it still retains the same quality you get with 120Mbps bitrate.
I wonder if a screen protector will improve, decrease or make no noticeable difference in heat dissipation. I would guess no difference.
I honestly probably does at a scientific level, but I'm not sure how I would practically test that.
Please ask Sony to bring back the notification LED, its a vital part of my phone usage. Thx 👍
Good channel. Nice leader. Thanks to your videos, I realized how cool the camera is in Sony phones. It's great, but dude. ) Inches, faringheits, halons, nifiga is not clear. You are watched from other countries, please make footnotes in more familiar measurement systems. Thank you. )
Yeah please dismiss Fahrenheit, Celsius degrees are a lot cooler :-)
@@Joxe-qp6bq I support. I think so too. )))
Another way to further isolate the camera performance: Put some black tape on the cameras so the OLED screens "turn off" and also every screen monitors the same thing.
Does the much higher Sony video data bit rate translate into better quality video?
I should be in 2 situations:
Low light video
And Many elements on video(city recordings for example)
I wonder how much data the s23 ultra use when set to record in high bitrate. What was the spoiler alert samsung fails when samsung is not even in this comparison
Who fabbed the Tensor 2 and 8Gen1?
@@SomeGadgetGuy its samsung 😂
I attach smartphone cooler, turn off internet data connection, turning low screen brigthness and ended up recording 2hours of video(4k30) and consuming 40% of the battery on Samsung Note 20 Ultra. But i realized recording video on pro-video drained battery faster than normal video
I understand when "regular" folks don't think to turn stuff down, but techies should be shamed when they complain about needing to tweak settings to record longer.
Smartphone cooler...like an active fan? Does it not add noise to the recording????
Also I would not be too proud if I had to add this accessory to my shooting kit ..
S10+ I am pretty sure I can record 4k@60 for more than 2 hours...without doing all that
Wonder how big the contribution of the Cam Sensor is to the heat development.
Xperia I IV and V have the smallest Sensors in this comparison i think. Also the most heat was generated close to the cam Sensor.
Imteresting would be a Xperia Pro I. Big Sensor that was not developed for small Phones and the slim Xperia cases together should be a lot of heat ^^
The XPERIA 1v and Pixel 7 pro now have similar sized main camera sensors.
Larger sensor produces more heat. Also depends on other characteristics of sensors, fab process, etc
Imx400 of XZ premium was very power hungry
Sony claims new imx888 uses less power than usual exmor because new dual layer
Fantastic comparison. I did not realise that the Xperias were using such high data rates with the cinema pro app. It goes to show how serious Sony are about the app. What data rates are camera pro and video pro apps using?
I am not a fan of the pro-i .
I am a big fan of the XPERIA PRO from 3 years ago.
Given the 1 v is capped to 256gb int storage, is that indication of an updated Xperia pro in the pipeline ?
There is a 512 GB 1 V, in some other markets
1 V has 256 OR 512 Gb. +1 TB microSD.
so what's the bitrate for the 120fps recordings?
I +1 this. Would be great to know.
120 - 150MB/s
The real question is, get this Sony V or wait for the PRO i 2?....
I coated all the camera housings as well as the both sides of my Xperia 1 IV upper circuit board in thermal grizzly for blistering performance 📱
I recorded its resulting flir image captures
I have expected the pixel to drop 1st and it did.
It wasn't just feom samsung. It is an exynos. They admitted it already
I notice Xiaomi has option to automatically reduce framerate when it's getting too hot.
Slo-mo makes that little girl almost rolling her ankle 10x worse.
She thought it was hilarious.
Thank you for your work! Back in the past I returned my xperia 1 mark 3 bcoz of the overheating... Now the 1 mark 5 is my dream phone. 😔 Sadly way too expensive for me. 😔.
Here I was all worried about the 888 when it launched, and then the 8G1 was like "here hold my alarmingly hot beer"...