Not sure if this is a complement or not... Personally, I'm 6 beers in. Does that mean we need to drink to enjoy the videos, we drink because of the videos, or is it just a coincidence...? Good video, anyway... I think - or maybe that's just the beer speaking.
You know, you can ball my wife if she wants you to. You can lounge around here on her sofa, in her ex-husband's dead-tech, post-modernistic bullsh1t house if you want to. But you do not get to watch my MUTHAFERKIN television set!
The FN FNC was the 'boutique' choice. A detective carrying a custom short-barrelled 1911 and a Bvlgari watch wouldn't carry just any rifle, it would have to fit his persona. "Unique" for some translates into good, for others bad. Side note: The AK5C is still the service rifle of the Swedish armed forces and it is largely a rugged FNC.
The kind of guy who bitches about the length of *"HEAT"* is the same kind of guy who tries to find unregistered NFA items at the range to report to the AFT.
One of my favorite scenes, and not just because, many years after first watching Heat, I stumbled across an M3 at a local gun store and caused my bank to suffer mild withdrawal pains when I (inevitably) failed the willpower check to just walk away. Still have it, love it dearly, even though it's a complete PITA to modify. Nobody makes accessories for it. But...another neat detail in that scene is that Cherrito's shotgun is punching six-hole patterns into the truck. That tells me he's not using 00 buckshot, but the larger 000 shot, which is usually loaded six to a shell. Not common, because it's not really needed...unless you're shooting through barriers, like doors or bodywork. Excellent choice for that application!
@@tylerwilliams6022 I swear that whole “Pacino’s character was a coke head” story is just Michael Mann making fun of Pacino for showing up powdered to set every day
These weapon ranking videos have become my absolute favorite content with Mr. Reeves. Could you do one for the “Boondock Saints” or 13 Hours: The secret soldiers of Benghazi?
It could be argued that the reason 'The Crew' tends to use a mishmash of rifles is they have to get theirs _from the black market_ and can't just place a bulk order.
Im no expert, but I think black market sellers typically dont have a mishmash of weapons. Like if the source that they got the weapons from is originally a corrupt yugoslavian armourer then they wont get a big variety. They would problaby get a bunch of M72 Yugo's. As an example.
@@Brigand17 guess it depends on the black market seller. Those you're talking about tend to have direct contacts with manufacturers or armories with little moral quandries, work with large bulk orders, and thus deal mostly with "rogue states", paramilitary groups and entities that can afford their services. To paraphrase Frederick Forsyth in "Dogs of War", they're the kind of people that for less than a thousand rifles and a few million cartridges, wouldn't even get up from bed. Given that Pacino's Crew was made of very few people (five to six at most, including drivers) and leaned towards "burner guns" (AKA used once and then disposed so that it would be harder to trace them) they probably worked with lower level sellers, with a mishmash of whatever they had at hand through small time bribery, theft and such How do I suppose it's burner guns? Mostly because you don't really see the same guns reused in the movie....in the first heist (armored transport) you see an FAL, two Model 653 14,5" carbines and a Norinco Type 56, during the botched exchange a G3 and a Benelli M4, and in the second heist (bank) you see two M733 11,5" carbines and a Galil. Damn, even McCauley's pistol changes throughout the movie, going from the USP at the beginning to the Sig P220 later in the movie
Danny Trejo's first movie was "Runaway Train", the '80s action/adventure classic with Jon Voight. Trejo appears for a short time with no lines early in the film during a prison boxing match where he boxes Eric Roberts' character and also served as a technical advisor on how inmates in prison acted.
He was also the bad guy Steven Segal chases in Marked For Death at the beginning, then gets locked in the trunk. Also, Trejo's book is out now, it's incredible. A true bad ass killer.
No BS; At the School of Infantry in the Marines, we show the fire and movement scene after the bank heist to illustrate how to do it perfectly. *You ended up covering this haha. Well done
While not a Marine I was on my first tour when this came out on my way to hang out in the Persian Gulf during Southern watch....we had to pretty much wait for it to become a rental and some one make a boot legged recording of it back home to see it....lol VHS and boot legged copies for the win back than....lol
More as a trophy weapon because of it's origin, is it so hard to believe? Plus no neighbors or supporters there use 556 caliber, so their std is or 7,62x39 (mostly yet) or 5,45x39; ofc 7,62x54R for the GPMG. Even the .50 are different, being NATO 12,7x99 and Russia 12,7x108mm. They don't have proper maintenance tools to keep the trophy guns there are more demanding in this issue than any ever built AK. Plus their access to NATO ammo is much more scarce and pricier due to demand/offer economy law.
@@Maddog-xc2zvblack market is deep and knows no limits. In the Mexican drug wars, guns from the wars in Iraq, Afghanistan, and even Vietnam have been recovered after shootouts. Not hard to imagine that our NATO branded gear would either get resupplied or recirculated there.
Not really. I think the Glock haters and fans lean too hard on that "perfection" line without understanding what marketing is. Guns usually aren't perfect out of the box so it makes sense to customize them for your needs and wants after you figure out what you want to optimize it.
Dude this video is awesome. ‘The lead singer of System of a Down”, “FN-WTF”, and whatever the fuck else you said had me rolling. Heat is one of my favorite movies ever. Thanks for this!
Technical advisor on this movie was Andy McNab former SAS operative. Micheal Mann did overrule McNab's suggestions for dramatic effect. I saw this movie at the cinema when it came out. The hairs on the nape of my neck stood up when I saw De Niros bank break out scene. I'm ex British Infantry & this was the first time I had seen a classic British Army section attack committed to celluloid.
Same here. I had to get Commando 1995 after the film. Already had issue Gvt. Sako M/62 AssaultR and private AKs-47 Full auto. Yes some Uzi’s too.. Shorty Commando is the best I have, I love her still.
I think the FNC kind of makes sense from a filmmaking perspective. My guess is that Mann wanted something with a distinctive silhouette that'd not only fit with Pacino's character but also make him easier to identify in wide shots and action scenes where there are a lot of guys running around in dark suits, and the FNC's shape sort of fits the police role, unlike other guns of the time that had more of a "military look" or would have struck audiences of the time as "bad guy guns." (Anything AK-derived or with a similar silhouette.) The folding stock is also an asset for action scenes. There are a lot more options nowadays, and I'd think the same character in a modern remake might use a SCAR or G36, but back in 1995 I can't think of a lot of options that weren't already used by other characters and also weren't iconic from other movies. (Like the AUG in Die Hard.)
The FNC was replaced in the Belgium army, home of gun design and production, since the 70's till being replaced with the also indigenous FN SCAR. A very tech army still rocking a variant of the FNC, the Ak-5, is Sweden; to the present day. HK is very badly represented in this movie with a civilian "DMR" unscoped when the G3 SG/1 sharpshooter/sniper rifle was introduced in 1972 (called clamped scopes); Pitty it's not on the movie - or at least some clone of it instead of a iron sights variant only; such a crew surely could get hands at least on one of this G3 specialized variants - not even going so far as asking for a PSG1 or the militarized version MSG90.
If you enjoy movies that emphasize attention to detail, it's hard to beat the elevator scene where Det. Casals (Magwa) unloads the 00 Buck in his Mossberg 590 in exchange for breaching rounds before they blow the hinges off the hotel room door. Michael Mann does not fuck around.
Just like in “Den of Thieves” which is an another Los Angles based heist movie. Anyways, the lead LEO in that movie carries a SCAR 16S at the end of the film.
I used the mP5 extensively in the British Royal Marines it’s literally indestructible and highly accurate / effective at short to medium ranges. Great little tool.
As cringe as his performance was in the movie things started making sense after I saw that Pacino’s character was supposed to have a coke problem in the movie. They filmed it with that in mind and decided afterwards to cut that out. At least for this one movie it explains his erratic behavior.
I can’t really bash on the FNC since even the AR-15 sucked when it first came out. I like my AR-15s but I wouldn’t classify them and the best. I remember being a young Sergeant in Iraq reading in “Stars & Stripes” how in the Army performance test of 2005 that same type of M4 I carried performed at the bottom of the list with most stoppages compared to newer stuff out there. As for the FNC, I think it would be cool if Brownell’s did an FNC for their retro line.
the first AK5 did not have a bolt catch - If we dont talk about pulling it outwards to stay open for inspektion - I think this is proof that I have handled it😀🙂 the later models C and D got it But not with the old magazines. Yeah We bought it, rebuiltet for duoble the money and it kind of...sucked. It fells like a SiG 550 but thats it 😞
yep, self adjusts for whatever ammo is used since the bolt wont unlock until it has reached a safe pressure. So really the delayed roller is even MORE gucci than adjustable gas, since the rifle does it for you
These comments show 1) a misunderstanding of my comments and 2) a misunderstanding of how the roller-delay blowback system works. First, yes, the HK91 doesn't have adjustable gas because it uses a roller delay system. It's like my saying "this car doesn't use spark plugs." Whatever the reason - because it's diesel or electric, whatever - doesn't change the fact that it doesn't use spark plus, so I don't know why this is an "A-HA!" comment. Number 2, some of you seem to think that roller delayed blowback is some sort of self-adjusting gas system. This could not be more untrue, which is why HK manufactures different angle locking pieces. I was going to type an explanation but I found a good one from a random-ass webpage when I Googled it for something to copy-paste instead: "The advantages of roller delayed actions are significant. First, the lighter bolt assembly and reduced bolt velocity mean that felt recoil and muzzle rise are almost non-existent, particularly in pistol calibers and compared to straight blowback. Generally, roller delayed firearms suppress far better than direct blowback as well. [...] *Moving up to centerfire rifle calibers complicates the roller delayed story.* It’s also where the design’s advantages begin to diminish. *Against popular piston and direct impingement systems, delayed blowback is saddled with some serious disadvantages. Remember, blowback guns rely on chamber pressure to operate. There is no gas system to tune. This means that variations in ammunition pressure, barrel length, or adding a suppressor significantly affect cyclic rate on a roller gun.* Sure enough, these also present challenges for competing designs, but their gas systems either self-regulate (to a degree) or can be tuned to match the situation. The best a roller delayed system can do is swap for a different locking piece to extend lockup time. That’s because the angle of the locking piece’s engagement surfaces determines how much force is needed to move the part. Thus, a more acute angle extends lockup while an obtuse one allows the breech to open sooner. Swapping locking pieces requires at least partial bolt disassembly and is not exactly something that’s ideally done in the field." - www.internationalsportsman.com/how-roller-delayed-firearms-work-and-why-it-matters/
James the 601/ XM-177 was a jam-a-matic having used one in the USAF I do have knowledge of the weapon. The dwell time on the short barrel in the timeline of the depicted film would have had problems after 100 rounds.
You sound like a loser that could not run the gun correctly, or you had a dud.. I had 1000's of rounds through that gun in 2004 to 3006 and it was a reliable platform.
I love how the FNC fan bois were drooling throughout the vid everytime another gun ranked as they assumed the FNC was gonna be at #2 or #1. Then James dunks on them by chucking it into the bottom of the list. 😂😂😂😂
@@JUNIORK1974 I disagree. Since the 60's how many probs did the ar 15 platform gave to troops? there were recently made more reliable by FN and HK, like the HK did with the crappy, well not now, Brit L85
Heat was NOT Danny Trejo's first movie there flamingo shorts. Desperado which came out same year but before HEAT was featured in that movie. In fact none of these 2 movies were his first which actually took place nearly 10 years earlier in movies like The Hidden, Death Wish, Lock Up, Bulletproof, Runaway Train to name a few.
Runaway Train was his first. He was cast because he showed up to set to support his N/A sponsee who worked there. Eddie Bunker recognized him, knew he was a boxer, hired him to train Eric Roberts and play his boxing opponent.
And uses stolen jokes with slight modification to try and sound smart 🤣 "Room temperature challenge" I wonder where I heard that thousands of times before 🤔
Heat is one of the many classic movies that made me fall in love with the retro A1/A2 carry handle-upper ARs. As the saying goes, "Everything old is new again".
@@eldorados_lost_searcher I did too, but I hate that the adjustment wheel can move from rubbing on stuff. I have an upper from a Canadian c7 with the a1 sight and all the a2 features
I got a c7 upper way back in the day when no one wanted them from arfcoms forums. Still rocking an aimpoint on top of it too. Took everyone else way too long to figure out we already invented the best optic height and sight design
@@danielescobar7618 What's the best optic height and sight design? Carry handle mounted optics? I've mostly been an AK guy, but have been thinking about an AR purchase. Have been drifting more towards a carry handle upper than a flattop. And I think the retro carry handles with an optic (Black Hawk Down, Blood Diamond, T2, etc.) look sweet. But I feel they would be uncomfortable chin/cheek weld wise.
@@tylerwilliams6022 popular modern optic mounts are at nearly the same height as carry handle mounting from back in the day. Fad after fad coming and going carry handle height seems to win out again at the end every time only the low powered variable scopes seem to work better (for a majority of users) at a slightly lower height on a flat top. I have an aimpoint on a DNZ mount to get it low on carry handle as possible and can still use the rock solid irons the rifle was designed with.
FNC for the win. That rifle is underrated in civilian market. Maybe I'm biased though, because it is my country current service rifle along with the Pindad SS-2.
@@factsoftheconfederacy7151 Maybe it's time to change two parties system into multi party system (more than two parties). We need more pro gun politicians, not just in the US but worldwide. Here in Indonesia BB guns, large caliber air rifle (.22 and above) and airsoft are treated like firearms, which is sucks.
The FN FNC din't suck ass. It's actually a good rifle and if it wasn't good, do you think the Swedes would take it? Sweden is a very cold place and if the FNC din't work, they'd simply break apart and that's the end of FN but no, the Swedes are still using the FNC as their standard rifle as the Ak5. Indonesia is also a massive adopter of the FNC now being locally made by Pindad. What's the hate with the FNC? The NATO trails it went thru was bust because the gun was rushed off for the trails even before the issue was fixed but once it was done up properly post-trail, it worked.
Cowboy Bebop 1998 has the same high functioning level of detail as Heat when it comes to the firearms. But its an Anime so it automatically sucks i guess.
Finally someone who feels the same way about Pacino and his gun in this movie. Cringe acting and a shitty gun that he would never in a million years have actually had.
@@Sig_P229 Reeves really don't like it and I bet he's not mistaking it with the 60's huge flop FN CAL (the FNC is already a product of the 70's and it replaced in Belgium and some other countries the venerable FN FAL - in Sweden took the first line combat rifle as the ak-5 replacing their variant of the G3, the Ak-4 now only used by the Swedish Home Guard after overhaul - stocks, aimpoints, rails, the best known is the SPUHR but without the aimpoints)
I grew up in the 80's and was mesmerized by the total package Michael Mann gave the world with Miami Vice, from the look of everything, the music that was featured, the characters. Heat really brought me back to that. The whole feel of the movie, the music, the realistic human imperfections. One of the best movies ever. On my top 10.
Of course you'd want the same mags in the same weapons so you could you know correlate with your buddies but often on the streets you take what you can get
Using different rifles would make them harder to trace, if everyone carried AR-15 platform rifles, the cops would easily look into military records for any war vets that have training with that platform ;)
I am old enough to remember when we used to call ourselves Otakus and when it used to be called Japanimation. I love Heat. I got the Blu-ray and the original VHS copy. It's one of my favorite bank robbery movies even though the action bank robbery is only 10 minutes. The M733s used got me into getting one of my own. I highly recommend James to look at the anime Black Lagoon because that show takes place in the 90s with a bunch of guns of the period.
"Amen Hallelujah Peanut Butter." "Lordy-Lordy Fucking Christ!" "The problem is Revy. When she finds out she will crucify you in a way that would impress Jesus Christ."
'Heat' is full-blown Pacino at his best; yelling lines out of context for no reason, constantly walking away while delivering improved nonsense, the gold chain, the gum-chewing, the pompadour...I miss the '90's.
You should absolutely rank the guns in other movies as well. Like Die Hard, could make a great Christmas special. You went over them before, but I saw no rankings.
Heat is my #1 favorite movie of all time. Love your commentary on the long guns-- and such hilarious commentary it was-- great sense of humor-- awesome video !!!!!!!!!
I just watched heat again for like the 500th time with my best friend the other night who had never seen it and he couldn’t believe how well the movie held up even after a quarter century
My dude... Love your review but I take exception to one point. Norinco. Norinco is hit and miss on some platforms however they make a great 1911 and they actually bought up the machining parts (so I heard) to make the M14/Springfield M1A from Springfield armoury. There are a number of friend of mine in Canada that report the M305 (that is their designation for the M1A) has sub MOA accuracy and the same reliability as the original straight out of the box. Norinco, though Chinese and often makes garbage, should not be underestimated! Now, as a true Canadian, I must sign off proper... THANKS for your work and SORRY for contradicting you. :)
You nailed the weapons perfectly once again my friend, a quite enjoyable & informative profile of the long-guns in one of my favorite films! I'm a big fan & owner of HK guns & love the MP5 & the 91 but there's so much more to dig in this killer movie gun-wise! Every Christmas my wife & I visit family in Orange County but we reserve a high floor room with a fantastic LA view at the Bonaventure Hotel there where I enjoy walking those shoot-out locations. Thanks for the 2nd part of the "Heat" weapons breakdown, the highlight to my week!
I love James has to ruin a perfectly good video for having some ridiculous opinion about some gun (FNC). Literally do a millisecond of research and you'll find the FNC is a very venerable rifle that's very reliable and still sees use by Sweden as the AK5. There's literally nothing wrong with it except that it's heavy lmao
James,, you realize the FNC is an AKM, right? I dig your review but I gotta throw the challenge flag on this one. You gave love to the AKM in the same vid, rightly so, but the FNC is swell made AKM. Yes, rip the gun apart and you will instantly recognize the long stroke piston/bolt carrier assembly, same as a Valmet or a Sig 540. Sorry gotta throw the flag. I’m not trading a Valmet for it, but I don’t buy that it sucks. Agree with everything else you said. When I got it (2011) conventional wisdom was the the GP WASR 10/63 sucked and it has turned out to be outstanding. Love that gun. It isn’t my safe Queen, but she is my range whore. She might not be the girl you want to intro to your parents, but she’s the girl you want to date on Friday night…
I remember the North Hollywood bank robbery. I was driving from N Hollywood to Burbank. Saw a long line of police cars going the opposite direction. Ironically, my niece would end up working at the same bank years later. Great movie!
Best part about heat, the guns actually eject the shells. I've seen alot of movies and shows like twd, that the guns just shoot without the action cycling or the shells being ejected.
Yep. No blanks, pure CG. Looks like shit up close and the actors don’t even pretend to be managing recoil. I enjoyed TWD but it was a little painful watching those parts as a gun guy haha.
I mean, when they made this film CGI was still an embryo and stupidly expensive (remember, Jurassic Park came just 2 years before this move and was probably the first movie to have really good CG which inflated the budget more than the animatronics)...it wouldn't be far-fetched to say that at the time having the guns shoot blanks would have been less expensive than having them not shoot at all and then add gunfire and muzzle flashes in post
I actually like the ending. It’s true that McCauley becomes a sympathetic character, but he’s a flawed one. He and his men murder police and endanger bystanders. He breaks his own rules to seek revenge. And it’s precisely when he learns to love that his dangerous lifestyle catches up with him. His character arc is a tragic one, but I wouldn’t have any other ending.
@@southernmarksman cops murder too. Just like the character but I really life. Rampart, new Orleans, Chicago, Baltimore, long Beach miss. List goes on and on.
In "Heat" almost all weapons are appropriate, not from the point of view of efficiency, but the logic of the event. The logic is that things didn't go according to plan. This is an extraordinary situation. SWAT use Hk5 because they usually storm buildings. Val Kilmere's character doesn't try to kill all the cops, he suppresses them. Every situation has an explanation
A correction regarding the North Hollywood B of A shootout- The second gunman was taken down by SWAT. The first, the more determined and aggressive of the two, was cornered and taken down by handgun armed detectives and patrol officers after his Norinco 56 stove piped.
it is up to debate whether the police round in the neck killed him or whether the shot under his chin out the top of his head killed him first. It was not very bright of them to walk into the bank with their masks already on and their guns out, as that is what caught the attention of a passing police car, not to mention wasting valuable time trying to shoot the locks off the ATMs. Absent a nearby underground parking lot to switch getaway cars, I think they were doomed because helicopters had them in sight. Larry pulling out a full auto .308 in the parking lot was a nice touch..... lol
Come on man..... My son and I watched a bunch of heist movies Heat, The Town etc... and while Heat was/is hella long... it is hands down the best heist movie ever made.
Just remembered this, so in the NoHo Bank Robbery in the 90s, one Robber had a full auto Norinco and the other had a full auto Bushmaster X16, but they did have two other Type 56s in Semi Auto
Re: Pacino’s FNC, in Hollywood Movie Logic, the most practical answer is not always the best one. In this case that’s because as one of the film’s 2 leads, it was a worthwhile endeavor to give him a unique, distinctive looking gun and not another AR despite how this might rankle gun nerds watching the movie.
Everytime I watch a TFBTV video I end up spending money. I have a green 1301, a bandicoot fanny, and a bunch of 511 clothes. Now I need a mp5 and a FAL. My names also Preston funny enough.
Sadly I live in the UK I haven't fired a full size m4 or m16 but I do have a firearms license and own a M&P 15-22 I'm currently saving up for a GSG AK.47 rimfire
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I enjoyed this with a healthy dose of bourbon. Best gun channel on the UA-cams
Not sure if this is a complement or not... Personally, I'm 6 beers in. Does that mean we need to drink to enjoy the videos, we drink because of the videos, or is it just a coincidence...?
Good video, anyway... I think - or maybe that's just the beer speaking.
Yup. He wins the internet zinger of the day with that one.
@@52Ford!Jim Beam Crew checking in!
@@wrath231 Hope it's the single barrel, that's an awesome pour.
Indeed!
The hardest part about not liking Heat is asking your wife's boyfriend if you can change the channel when it comes on.
Brilliant!
SHOTS FIRED
You know, you can ball my wife if she wants you to.
You can lounge around here on her sofa, in her ex-husband's dead-tech, post-modernistic bullsh1t house if you want to.
But you do not get to watch my MUTHAFERKIN television set!
Ralph was a good dude. Pacino was on his third turd marriage, serves him right I suppose. 😵😵😵
Not on his TV
The FN FNC was the 'boutique' choice. A detective carrying a custom short-barrelled 1911 and a Bvlgari watch wouldn't carry just any rifle, it would have to fit his persona. "Unique" for some translates into good, for others bad.
Side note: The AK5C is still the service rifle of the Swedish armed forces and it is largely a rugged FNC.
A Swedish modification of the FNC 80, with over 11 major improvements, for an example new ejector and magazine catch.
The ak5c is nice, works like a charm in the cold ass north of Sweden, bit on the heavy side tho. Can't say as much for the og fn fnc
the FNC is a 5.56 version of the FAL, can’t be that bad...
@@crazysilly2914 its like 2x the weight of a comparable m4
The Belgians still use the FNC as the standard infantry rifle.
The LAPD Swat guy in shorts during the North Hollywood shootout is James's daddy.
That goes without saying.
OMG you're right!
Are short shorts genetic?
@@oxtx9885 absolutely
"He probably died a happy man; with a Galil in one hand and a hostage child in the other"=perfection
Tom Sizemore. Lol
Oh and the gazillion dollars on his shoulder/back!
Gali l+ stolen money + child hostage = automatic Israeli citizenship.
Stupid Al Pacino and his stupid Belgian raspberry waffle gun!
That made my uncaffeinated morning.
Actually a galil in one hand and a child as hostage its very common in the colombian guerrilla
The kind of guy who bitches about the length of *"HEAT"* is the same kind of guy who tries to find unregistered NFA items at the range to report to the AFT.
And isn’t willing to go down on his girl long enough to make her happy….
and also Works at the AFT.
And always has to pass one more car before exiting the freeway
@@ab5olut3zero95 his *"girlfriend"* is a femboy or something he bought online.
@@kingboom777 naturally.
James: "FN FNC sucks ass"
Garand thumb: " is that like a personal attack or something =,("
“…He thinks he’s gotten away scot-free that is until Cheritto Cobains him with the Benelli…” Bruh!!! Well played!!
Savage James... simply savage. Where do you come up with lines like that! Bravo!
One of my favorite scenes, and not just because, many years after first watching Heat, I stumbled across an M3 at a local gun store and caused my bank to suffer mild withdrawal pains when I (inevitably) failed the willpower check to just walk away. Still have it, love it dearly, even though it's a complete PITA to modify. Nobody makes accessories for it.
But...another neat detail in that scene is that Cherrito's shotgun is punching six-hole patterns into the truck. That tells me he's not using 00 buckshot, but the larger 000 shot, which is usually loaded six to a shell. Not common, because it's not really needed...unless you're shooting through barriers, like doors or bodywork. Excellent choice for that application!
Should have been more like "Cheritto Courtney Loves him with the Benelli"
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Lol Hank Azaria's reaction to Pacino's outburst kills me every time. Apparently Pacino ad-libbed that line and Azaria's reaction was genuine.
The Hannah character chips coke in his backstory
@@zackamania6534
And Pacino was on coke during filming.
@@tylerwilliams6022 I swear that whole “Pacino’s character was a coke head” story is just Michael Mann making fun of Pacino for showing up powdered to set every day
These weapon ranking videos have become my absolute favorite content with Mr. Reeves. Could you do one for the “Boondock Saints” or 13 Hours: The secret soldiers of Benghazi?
I second both of these.
All of these suggestions are great
Boondocks Saints.. my man, I haven't heard that name in years
Imagine if he covered every single gun we can see in the gun room of boondocks saints lol
And Smokin' Aces
It could be argued that the reason 'The Crew' tends to use a mishmash of rifles is they have to get theirs _from the black market_ and can't just place a bulk order.
One also could argue that a bulk order (legal or illegal) would be less low profile
Yeah that's what I thought. Beggars can't be chosers. At least they know not to use TEC-9s
Im no expert, but I think black market sellers typically dont have a mishmash of weapons. Like if the source that they got the weapons from is originally a corrupt yugoslavian armourer then they wont get a big variety. They would problaby get a bunch of M72 Yugo's. As an example.
@@Brigand17 guess it depends on the black market seller.
Those you're talking about tend to have direct contacts with manufacturers or armories with little moral quandries, work with large bulk orders, and thus deal mostly with "rogue states", paramilitary groups and entities that can afford their services. To paraphrase Frederick Forsyth in "Dogs of War", they're the kind of people that for less than a thousand rifles and a few million cartridges, wouldn't even get up from bed.
Given that Pacino's Crew was made of very few people (five to six at most, including drivers) and leaned towards "burner guns" (AKA used once and then disposed so that it would be harder to trace them) they probably worked with lower level sellers, with a mishmash of whatever they had at hand through small time bribery, theft and such
How do I suppose it's burner guns? Mostly because you don't really see the same guns reused in the movie....in the first heist (armored transport) you see an FAL, two Model 653 14,5" carbines and a Norinco Type 56, during the botched exchange a G3 and a Benelli M4, and in the second heist (bank) you see two M733 11,5" carbines and a Galil. Damn, even McCauley's pistol changes throughout the movie, going from the USP at the beginning to the Sig P220 later in the movie
My boss gave me a Mak-90 when I turned 18 instead of my paycheck for that week, I’m now 34 and needless to say I still work him.
That’s seriously the greatest employee retention idea I’ve ever heard of.
They go for 1900+ in Commiewealth of Marxachusetts...don't ask me how I know...😳
Please tell me you still have that beautiful instrument...
@@ruthlessmofo I sure do
That’s such a dad move, lol.
Danny Trejo's first movie was "Runaway Train", the '80s action/adventure classic with Jon Voight. Trejo appears for a short time with no lines early in the film during a prison boxing match where he boxes Eric Roberts' character and also served as a technical advisor on how inmates in prison acted.
I remember him back in Deathwish 4 back in like 1987
Also, he was in Blood in, Blood out with a speaking role, and also Desperado. Not taking anything from this great video though .
He was also the bad guy Steven Segal chases in Marked For Death at the beginning, then gets locked in the trunk. Also, Trejo's book is out now, it's incredible. A true bad ass killer.
He was also in who gives a shit
@@PeachTreesHOA that was a great movie!🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
No BS; At the School of Infantry in the Marines, we show the fire and movement scene after the bank heist to illustrate how to do it perfectly.
*You ended up covering this haha. Well done
Can Confirm
While not a Marine I was on my first tour when this came out on my way to hang out in the Persian Gulf during Southern watch....we had to pretty much wait for it to become a rental and some one make a boot legged recording of it back home to see it....lol VHS and boot legged copies for the win back than....lol
Also a Marine. Can confirm this is also shown at TBS, too
Same, Paris island
No kidding, I’m going to SOI in Pendleton in just a few days
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Well, well, well. Look who drug the cat in.
@@funkymonkeylovin he comments on most videos from the popular gun channels
@@funkymonkeylovin well, well, well. How the turn tables.
TLDR: The Taliban is now using "The Gun from Heat"
Side note: the tali’s own more MRAPs than the US does.
More as a trophy weapon because of it's origin, is it so hard to believe? Plus no neighbors or supporters there use 556 caliber, so their std is or 7,62x39 (mostly yet) or 5,45x39; ofc 7,62x54R for the GPMG. Even the .50 are different, being NATO 12,7x99 and Russia 12,7x108mm. They don't have proper maintenance tools to keep the trophy guns there are more demanding in this issue than any ever built AK. Plus their access to NATO ammo is much more scarce and pricier due to demand/offer economy law.
@@Maddog-xc2zvblack market is deep and knows no limits. In the Mexican drug wars, guns from the wars in Iraq, Afghanistan, and even Vietnam have been recovered after shootouts. Not hard to imagine that our NATO branded gear would either get resupplied or recirculated there.
Michael Mann was always good with guns in his films all the way back to "Thief" in 1980. Great video!
Fucking love thief such a good film
Does anyone else find it a little ironic that none of the glocks in the “glock perfection” ad have the stock sights
🤫 it's "perfect"
Not really, since they sell them that way and have for a long time.
No….I also don’t find it Ironic when vehicle manufacturers run ads showing products loaded with options either though.
Not really. I think the Glock haters and fans lean too hard on that "perfection" line without understanding what marketing is. Guns usually aren't perfect out of the box so it makes sense to customize them for your needs and wants after you figure out what you want to optimize it.
Nope.
Dude this video is awesome. ‘The lead singer of System of a Down”, “FN-WTF”, and whatever the fuck else you said had me rolling. Heat is one of my favorite movies ever. Thanks for this!
"and a mildly irritated CPA courier", hahaha.
Technical advisor on this movie was Andy McNab former SAS operative. Micheal Mann did overrule McNab's suggestions for dramatic effect. I saw this movie at the cinema when it came out. The hairs on the nape of my neck stood up when I saw De Niros bank break out scene. I'm ex British Infantry & this was the first time I had seen a classic British Army section attack committed to celluloid.
That Colt Commando is part of the reason why I fell in love w AR platforms
I prefer cal kilmers CAR
Same here. I had to get Commando 1995 after the film. Already had issue Gvt. Sako M/62 AssaultR and private AKs-47 Full auto. Yes some Uzi’s too.. Shorty Commando is the best I have, I love her still.
I think the FNC kind of makes sense from a filmmaking perspective. My guess is that Mann wanted something with a distinctive silhouette that'd not only fit with Pacino's character but also make him easier to identify in wide shots and action scenes where there are a lot of guys running around in dark suits, and the FNC's shape sort of fits the police role, unlike other guns of the time that had more of a "military look" or would have struck audiences of the time as "bad guy guns." (Anything AK-derived or with a similar silhouette.) The folding stock is also an asset for action scenes. There are a lot more options nowadays, and I'd think the same character in a modern remake might use a SCAR or G36, but back in 1995 I can't think of a lot of options that weren't already used by other characters and also weren't iconic from other movies. (Like the AUG in Die Hard.)
AUG is still "the Die Hard gun" to so many people. More than the Beretta 92 or MP5.
The FNC was replaced in the Belgium army, home of gun design and production, since the 70's till being replaced with the also indigenous FN SCAR. A very tech army still rocking a variant of the FNC, the Ak-5, is Sweden; to the present day. HK is very badly represented in this movie with a civilian "DMR" unscoped when the G3 SG/1 sharpshooter/sniper rifle was introduced in 1972 (called clamped scopes); Pitty it's not on the movie - or at least some clone of it instead of a iron sights variant only; such a crew surely could get hands at least on one of this G3 specialized variants - not even going so far as asking for a PSG1 or the militarized version MSG90.
HEAT is still one of my all-time favorites. I still love it, and if you have a good surround sound system, crank it up!!
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Look at the 15 seconds mark
If you enjoy movies that emphasize attention to detail, it's hard to beat the elevator scene where Det. Casals (Magwa) unloads the 00 Buck in his Mossberg 590 in exchange for breaching rounds before they blow the hinges off the hotel room door. Michael Mann does not fuck around.
Pretty sure the FNC was chosen soley because it looks cool.
The main “good guy” gotta have a unique weapon.
Just like in “Den of Thieves” which is an another Los Angles based heist movie. Anyways, the lead LEO in that movie carries a SCAR 16S at the end of the film.
I thought it was awesone when Wes Studi breaches that door with the Mossberg 590.
"Weird Child Protagonist" perfectly describes all my favorite anime.
Eagerly awaiting the best and worst guns of Neon Genesis video lmao
The most awesome James fact yet... It was short shorts that ended the North Hollywood shootout - not the gunfire... :)
One of the perps was shot 30 times and still only surrendered when Short Shorts arrived on the scene.
"Heat" and "Ronin" are probably my two favorite DeNiro movies. They are a little long, but definitely worth watching, especially if you're into guns.
With you 100% on those two movies!
Ronin was my gun porn movie back in the day.
And in Ronin _Sean Bean lives!_
Ronin is so effing good. Obvs so is heat but Ronin needs more love, keep spreading the good word
Please do ronin next TFB
I used the mP5 extensively in the British Royal Marines it’s literally indestructible and highly accurate / effective at short to medium ranges. Great little tool.
40?
@stanmil5495 42
I am convinced James sleeps next to an exclusive VCR copy and movie poster signed by Swat guy in shorts every night
As cringe as his performance was in the movie things started making sense after I saw that Pacino’s character was supposed to have a coke problem in the movie. They filmed it with that in mind and decided afterwards to cut that out. At least for this one movie it explains his erratic behavior.
The Swedish militay adopted the FN FNC but modified it and added a bolt catch among other things its called AK5 (Automatkarbin 5 )
Sweden is so weird. Lol
@@hansgruber9685 And why is that ?
I can’t really bash on the FNC since even the AR-15 sucked when it first came out. I like my AR-15s but I wouldn’t classify them and the best. I remember being a young Sergeant in Iraq reading in “Stars & Stripes” how in the Army performance test of 2005 that same type of M4 I carried performed at the bottom of the list with most stoppages compared to newer stuff out there. As for the FNC, I think it would be cool if Brownell’s did an FNC for their retro line.
the first AK5 did not have a bolt catch - If we dont talk about pulling it outwards to stay open for inspektion - I think this is proof that I have handled it😀🙂
the later models C and D got it But not with the old magazines.
Yeah We bought it, rebuiltet for duoble the money and it kind of...sucked. It fells like a SiG 550 but thats it 😞
What kind of loser doesn't like "Heat"? It's a great flick.
"HK91 doesn't have adjustable gas" because it's a roller delayed blowback.
Yup. The MP5 is blowback operated too.
yep, self adjusts for whatever ammo is used since the bolt wont unlock until it has reached a safe pressure. So really the delayed roller is even MORE gucci than adjustable gas, since the rifle does it for you
"We don't need gas systems where we're going"
Yeah that line made me cringe hard...
These comments show 1) a misunderstanding of my comments and 2) a misunderstanding of how the roller-delay blowback system works. First, yes, the HK91 doesn't have adjustable gas because it uses a roller delay system. It's like my saying "this car doesn't use spark plugs." Whatever the reason - because it's diesel or electric, whatever - doesn't change the fact that it doesn't use spark plus, so I don't know why this is an "A-HA!" comment. Number 2, some of you seem to think that roller delayed blowback is some sort of self-adjusting gas system. This could not be more untrue, which is why HK manufactures different angle locking pieces. I was going to type an explanation but I found a good one from a random-ass webpage when I Googled it for something to copy-paste instead: "The advantages of roller delayed actions are significant. First, the lighter bolt assembly and reduced bolt velocity mean that felt recoil and muzzle rise are almost non-existent, particularly in pistol calibers and compared to straight blowback. Generally, roller delayed firearms suppress far better than direct blowback as well. [...] *Moving up to centerfire rifle calibers complicates the roller delayed story.* It’s also where the design’s advantages begin to diminish. *Against popular piston and direct impingement systems, delayed blowback is saddled with some serious disadvantages. Remember, blowback guns rely on chamber pressure to operate. There is no gas system to tune. This means that variations in ammunition pressure, barrel length, or adding a suppressor significantly affect cyclic rate on a roller gun.* Sure enough, these also present challenges for competing designs, but their gas systems either self-regulate (to a degree) or can be tuned to match the situation. The best a roller delayed system can do is swap for a different locking piece to extend lockup time. That’s because the angle of the locking piece’s engagement surfaces determines how much force is needed to move the part. Thus, a more acute angle extends lockup while an obtuse one allows the breech to open sooner. Swapping locking pieces requires at least partial bolt disassembly and is not exactly something that’s ideally done in the field." - www.internationalsportsman.com/how-roller-delayed-firearms-work-and-why-it-matters/
The hardest part of this video was seeing the Taliban with the latest M-4 while our child sniffer wants to take our firearms away from us.
My guess is James will still put a Glock as number 1 and make some lame excuse for doing it.
My guess for #1 will be an AR15/M4
James the 601/ XM-177 was a jam-a-matic having used one in the USAF I do have knowledge of the weapon. The dwell time on the short barrel in the timeline of the depicted film would have had problems after 100 rounds.
What exactly is the barrel length?
@@hansgruber9685 The one I used was 10.5 inches.
Hey, @zxrider9246, don't let your real world experience get in the way of James' fantasies.
You sound like a loser that could not run the gun correctly, or you had a dud.. I had 1000's of rounds through that gun in 2004 to 3006 and it was a reliable platform.
@@deadmeat8754my experience was awesome
James I would love to see you do a Video with the guns of Leon the Professional. Thank you.
Hell yes😎
That would actually be cool as fuck. Like... HAELLL YAESSSS
Ronin would be better.
@@hansgruber9685 why not both?
I love how the FNC fan bois were drooling throughout the vid everytime another gun ranked as they assumed the FNC was gonna be at #2 or #1. Then James dunks on them by chucking it into the bottom of the list. 😂😂😂😂
Where it rightly belongs!
And the Mag Well is tighter than a Duck’s Asshole.
@@JUNIORK1974 I disagree. Since the 60's how many probs did the ar 15 platform gave to troops? there were recently made more reliable by FN and HK, like the HK did with the crappy, well not now, Brit L85
Heat was NOT Danny Trejo's first movie there flamingo shorts. Desperado which came out same year but before HEAT was featured in that movie. In fact none of these 2 movies were his first which actually took place nearly 10 years earlier in movies like The Hidden, Death Wish, Lock Up, Bulletproof, Runaway Train to name a few.
Yep I cought that too
Runaway Train was his first. He was cast because he showed up to set to support his N/A sponsee who worked there. Eddie Bunker recognized him, knew he was a boxer, hired him to train Eric Roberts and play his boxing opponent.
I know right, “true story” lol. This dude is not terribly bright.
And uses stolen jokes with slight modification to try and sound smart 🤣 "Room temperature challenge" I wonder where I heard that thousands of times before 🤔
Heat is one of the many classic movies that made me fall in love with the retro A1/A2 carry handle-upper ARs. As the saying goes, "Everything old is new again".
I'll be honest, I still have an affinity for the A2 because it's what I qualified on, and it's just fun.
@@eldorados_lost_searcher I did too, but I hate that the adjustment wheel can move from rubbing on stuff. I have an upper from a Canadian c7 with the a1 sight and all the a2 features
I got a c7 upper way back in the day when no one wanted them from arfcoms forums. Still rocking an aimpoint on top of it too. Took everyone else way too long to figure out we already invented the best optic height and sight design
@@danielescobar7618 What's the best optic height and sight design?
Carry handle mounted optics?
I've mostly been an AK guy, but have been thinking about an AR purchase.
Have been drifting more towards a carry handle upper than a flattop.
And I think the retro carry handles with an optic (Black Hawk Down, Blood Diamond, T2, etc.) look sweet.
But I feel they would be uncomfortable chin/cheek weld wise.
@@tylerwilliams6022 popular modern optic mounts are at nearly the same height as carry handle mounting from back in the day. Fad after fad coming and going carry handle height seems to win out again at the end every time only the low powered variable scopes seem to work better (for a majority of users) at a slightly lower height on a flat top. I have an aimpoint on a DNZ mount to get it low on carry handle as possible and can still use the rock solid irons the rifle was designed with.
Heat kicks ass. It’s the perfect length! I watch the WHOLE thing over and over again frequently
SAME HERE!!!!!! :))))))
I watch it while I fondle my rifles😁
I wasn’t gonna admit it but I’m guilty of that too 😜
@@ruthlessmofo When I am watching HEAT too, I need to start doing that TOOOO!!!!!! :))))
@@ruthlessmofo I see you did the HEAT and chill with your guns ;)
That Tom Sizemore joke was subtle and brutal. 😂
Greatest collection of Reeves’-isms yet. Sizemore “Cobaining” the courier with a Benelli M3?! Outstanding Video even if the Galil should’ve been #1.
I believe Danny’s first movie was with John voight called runaway or runaway train it also stared Eric Roberts
FNC for the win. That rifle is underrated in civilian market. Maybe I'm biased though, because it is my country current service rifle along with the Pindad SS-2.
It’s very expensive in the US
@@factsoftheconfederacy7151 I know and quire rare thanks to Bush 41 import ban.
@@rizaradri316 I know, Democrats and Republicans suck
@@factsoftheconfederacy7151 Maybe it's time to change two parties system into multi party system (more than two parties). We need more pro gun politicians, not just in the US but worldwide. Here in Indonesia BB guns, large caliber air rifle (.22 and above) and airsoft are treated like firearms, which is sucks.
@@factsoftheconfederacy7151 wow
The FN FNC din't suck ass. It's actually a good rifle and if it wasn't good, do you think the Swedes would take it? Sweden is a very cold place and if the FNC din't work, they'd simply break apart and that's the end of FN but no, the Swedes are still using the FNC as their standard rifle as the Ak5. Indonesia is also a massive adopter of the FNC now being locally made by Pindad.
What's the hate with the FNC? The NATO trails it went thru was bust because the gun was rushed off for the trails even before the issue was fixed but once it was done up properly post-trail, it worked.
Cowboy Bebop 1998 has the same high functioning level of detail as Heat when it comes to the firearms. But its an Anime so it automatically sucks i guess.
Your guess is correct
Black Lagoon also comes to mind, when talking about Anime with detailed depiction of firearms.
@@doublep1980 Same problem as bebop.
Finally someone who feels the same way about Pacino and his gun in this movie. Cringe acting and a shitty gun that he would never in a million years have actually had.
This movie is why I fell in love with the FNC and G3
FNC is extremely underrated
@@Sig_P229 Reeves really don't like it and I bet he's not mistaking it with the 60's huge flop FN CAL (the FNC is already a product of the 70's and it replaced in Belgium and some other countries the venerable FN FAL - in Sweden took the first line combat rifle as the ak-5 replacing their variant of the G3, the Ak-4 now only used by the Swedish Home Guard after overhaul - stocks, aimpoints, rails, the best known is the SPUHR but without the aimpoints)
"and insist that the m16 is a piston gun. No it's not"
*Ian McCollum has left the chat*
A's a shotgun guy I appreciate you including the shotguns.
However a's a Swede I don't approve on your bashing of the FNC.. 😁
Have to correct you Danny Trejo first movie is Runaway Train which also had Jon Voight who also in Heat.
“That’s what I call diversity”
Best of 2021
I grew up in the 80's and was mesmerized by the total package Michael Mann gave the world with Miami Vice, from the look of everything, the music that was featured, the characters. Heat really brought me back to that. The whole feel of the movie, the music, the realistic human imperfections. One of the best movies ever. On my top 10.
And now the Canik mete? Is available with Miami Vice inspired skyline at night
@@iowa_lot_to_travel9471 Ha Ha!! I saw that shit about a week ago. I wonder if Canik is giving Mann royalties for that shit.
illegally converted to fully fun mode - hahahaha those phrases that James adds - more please
Of course you'd want the same mags in the same weapons so you could you know correlate with your buddies but often on the streets you take what you can get
The hi-point C-19 that Came out of China in early 2020 is my favorite
Using different rifles would make them harder to trace, if everyone carried AR-15 platform rifles, the cops would easily look into military records for any war vets that have training with that platform ;)
I am old enough to remember when we used to call ourselves Otakus and when it used to be called Japanimation. I love Heat. I got the Blu-ray and the original VHS copy. It's one of my favorite bank robbery movies even though the action bank robbery is only 10 minutes. The M733s used got me into getting one of my own.
I highly recommend James to look at the anime Black Lagoon because that show takes place in the 90s with a bunch of guns of the period.
"Amen Hallelujah Peanut Butter."
"Lordy-Lordy Fucking Christ!"
"The problem is Revy. When she finds out she will crucify you in a way that would impress Jesus Christ."
Same here 1995 i had to have Commando ❤️
'Heat' is full-blown Pacino at his best; yelling lines out of context for no reason, constantly walking away while delivering improved nonsense, the gold chain, the gum-chewing, the pompadour...I miss the '90's.
Literally not a boring moment in Heat.
I'd love to see James rate the weapons in Sicario Day of the Soldado.
And the sequel
@@andrewgates8158 day of soldado is the sequel
So the glock 17 makes number 1
Sweden adopted the FN-FNC as the AK5. How about them apples?
If the good-guys in the movie all used The Right Arm Of The Free World, they would have gotten away, and the cops would have had no chance!
Shout out to g3 for a runner up
You should absolutely rank the guns in other movies as well. Like Die Hard, could make a great Christmas special.
You went over them before, but I saw no rankings.
“ Empathy was yesterday today your wasting my motherfuckin time!” “ Did you fall in love?
Heat is my #1 favorite movie of all time. Love your commentary on the long guns-- and such hilarious commentary it was-- great sense of humor-- awesome video !!!!!!!!!
What is the make/model of the optic attached to the carry handle at 20:10?
One of my favorite videos so far (even better than the guns of Die Hard)
"the package very compact, yet still effective"
Strangely enough that's what people say about James after they find out he has children.
I just watched heat again for like the 500th time with my best friend the other night who had never seen it and he couldn’t believe how well the movie held up even after a quarter century
FANTASTIC video. I , like you, am HIGHLY irritated by those who call Heat "slow or boring." It's an EPIC film.
Heat is one of my favorite movies of all time, but I kind of wish it ended differently. Also, I wish I could own a legit Commando.
Manhunter and Thief were better than their remakes which were Silence of the Lambs and Heat
Xander Berkley was in heat and it's original. The original was not called thief.
Watching this made me feel warm and tingly inside. Don't judge me, I know I'm not the only one.
It's ok guns have that effect on some people.
Why the hell did they give Waingro a loaded gun?!
The FNC was adopted by the Belgian and Swedish armed forces, and is still used by Sweden to this day. It is well liked aswell.
Liked by weirdos.
@@hansgruber9685 it's a rugged, reliable rifle. Sure it's heavy and whatnot, but it had served the Swedish Armed Forces well.
@@Meatlooaf Served them well? In what? A parade?
@@hansgruber9685 In Kosovo and in Afghanistan and currently in Mali and Chad.
@@hansgruber9685 -1
My dude... Love your review but I take exception to one point. Norinco. Norinco is hit and miss on some platforms however they make a great 1911 and they actually bought up the machining parts (so I heard) to make the M14/Springfield M1A from Springfield armoury. There are a number of friend of mine in Canada that report the M305 (that is their designation for the M1A) has sub MOA accuracy and the same reliability as the original straight out of the box. Norinco, though Chinese and often makes garbage, should not be underestimated! Now, as a true Canadian, I must sign off proper... THANKS for your work and SORRY for contradicting you. :)
You nailed the weapons perfectly once again my friend, a quite enjoyable & informative profile of the long-guns in one of my favorite films! I'm a big fan & owner of HK guns & love the MP5 & the 91 but there's so much more to dig in this killer movie gun-wise! Every Christmas my wife & I visit family in Orange County but we reserve a high floor room with a fantastic LA view at the Bonaventure Hotel there where I enjoy walking those shoot-out locations. Thanks for the 2nd part of the "Heat" weapons breakdown, the highlight to my week!
I love James has to ruin a perfectly good video for having some ridiculous opinion about some gun (FNC). Literally do a millisecond of research and you'll find the FNC is a very venerable rifle that's very reliable and still sees use by Sweden as the AK5. There's literally nothing wrong with it except that it's heavy lmao
James: "HK 91 loses points for the lack of adjustable gas system"
HK: "...gas system?"
*laughs in roller-delayed blowback*
James,, you realize the FNC is an AKM, right? I dig your review but I gotta throw the challenge flag on this one. You gave love to the AKM in the same vid, rightly so, but the FNC is swell made AKM. Yes, rip the gun apart and you will instantly recognize the long stroke piston/bolt carrier assembly, same as a Valmet or a Sig 540. Sorry gotta throw the flag. I’m not trading a Valmet for it, but I don’t buy that it sucks. Agree with everything else you said. When I got it (2011) conventional wisdom was the the GP WASR 10/63 sucked and it has turned out to be outstanding. Love that gun. It isn’t my safe Queen, but she is my range whore. She might not be the girl you want to intro to your parents, but she’s the girl you want to date on Friday night…
In Sweden there are about 200.000 FNC's, although "modified" to AK-5. The two I have used where heavy as hell but never failed me with live ammo.
I remember the North Hollywood bank robbery. I was driving from N Hollywood to Burbank. Saw a long line of police cars going the opposite direction. Ironically, my niece would end up working at the same bank years later. Great movie!
Best part about heat, the guns actually eject the shells. I've seen alot of movies and shows like twd, that the guns just shoot without the action cycling or the shells being ejected.
Yep. No blanks, pure CG. Looks like shit up close and the actors don’t even pretend to be managing recoil.
I enjoyed TWD but it was a little painful watching those parts as a gun guy haha.
@@ryand.3858 IKR! Seeing a dust cover close on a AR, is just painful to watch. But regardless I love the show.
I mean, when they made this film CGI was still an embryo and stupidly expensive (remember, Jurassic Park came just 2 years before this move and was probably the first movie to have really good CG which inflated the budget more than the animatronics)...it wouldn't be far-fetched to say that at the time having the guns shoot blanks would have been less expensive than having them not shoot at all and then add gunfire and muzzle flashes in post
People who think Heat is long and boring will never be able to appreciate incredible cinema!
Loved Heat - hated the ending - Neil McCauley should have gotten away. Other than that, loved Heat!
Micheal Man movies have no happy endings
Some of the best movies don't have happy endings
I actually like the ending. It’s true that McCauley becomes a sympathetic character, but he’s a flawed one. He and his men murder police and endanger bystanders. He breaks his own rules to seek revenge. And it’s precisely when he learns to love that his dangerous lifestyle catches up with him. His character arc is a tragic one, but I wouldn’t have any other ending.
@@southernmarksman cops murder too. Just like the character but I really life. Rampart, new Orleans, Chicago, Baltimore, long Beach miss. List goes on and on.
In "Heat" almost all weapons are appropriate, not from the point of view of efficiency, but the logic of the event. The logic is that things didn't go according to plan. This is an extraordinary situation. SWAT use Hk5 because they usually storm buildings. Val Kilmere's character doesn't try to kill all the cops, he suppresses them. Every situation has an explanation
A correction regarding the North Hollywood B of A shootout- The second gunman was taken down by SWAT. The first, the more determined and aggressive of the two, was cornered and taken down by handgun armed detectives and patrol officers after his Norinco 56 stove piped.
it is up to debate whether the police round in the neck killed him or whether the shot under his chin out the top of his head killed him first.
It was not very bright of them to walk into the bank with their masks already on and their guns out, as that is what caught the attention of a passing police car, not to mention wasting valuable time trying to shoot the locks off the ATMs. Absent a nearby underground parking lot to switch getaway cars, I think they were doomed because helicopters had them in sight.
Larry pulling out a full auto .308 in the parking lot was a nice touch..... lol
A theory, pachino’s character sold his custom M16 and is using an evidence locker special.
I am planning on watching this as soon as this F'ing movie "Heat" gets over! I've been watching for hours, and taken 3 naps.
If you can call the bank heist a climax, there’s another hour of movie left of just wind down
Come on man..... My son and I watched a bunch of heist movies Heat, The Town etc... and while Heat was/is hella long... it is hands down the best heist movie ever made.
Just remembered this, so in the NoHo Bank Robbery in the 90s, one Robber had a full auto Norinco and the other had a full auto Bushmaster X16, but they did have two other Type 56s in Semi Auto
“You ever seen Heat” is slang in my group for “this is gonna take some time”
Re: Pacino’s FNC, in Hollywood Movie Logic, the most practical answer is not always the best one. In this case that’s because as one of the film’s 2 leads, it was a worthwhile endeavor to give him a unique, distinctive looking gun and not another AR despite how this might rankle gun nerds watching the movie.
Everytime I watch a TFBTV video I end up spending money. I have a green 1301, a bandicoot fanny, and a bunch of 511 clothes. Now I need a mp5 and a FAL. My names also Preston funny enough.
The action *is* the juice for me.
A long time back in 1968 after seeing what the M-16 556 could do I have never had doubt of its effectiveness.
Sadly I live in the UK I haven't fired a full size m4 or m16 but I do have a firearms license and own a M&P 15-22 I'm currently saving up for a GSG AK.47 rimfire