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Bosch 12V Cordless Brushless Trim Router Review
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- Опубліковано 13 лип 2018
- Bosch Router at Lowes: lowes.sjv.io/oeJABY
Bosch Router at Amazon: amzn.to/2NgS4aO
Freud Quadracut Bit: amzn.to/2JnA38d
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Bosch's new GKF12V-25 completely redesigns the cordless trim router. Specifically designed for edge profiling and trimming, this router nails its targeted applications with surprising performance from a 12V tool.
Also it should go without saying, DO NOT ATTEMPT the drop test as I did, since the drop detection feature does not exist. I did not have a bit, collet, or nut installed, and the spindle was retracted above the shoe with no rotating parts exposed.
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Great video. I just bought this and didn't know which end was up. Thanks for the run-through of all the features.
Thanks for the demonstration. This is a helpful video. I wish you could show more of how the tool works in different situations.
The more I look at this thing, the more I want one. I've got a Milwaukee 2.25hp, Bosch Colt (which has been used 3-4 times in its life) and the incredible Makita LXT trimmer but they are either bulky, corded (or both) or designated to a hard-case kit that I do not separate them from. I would buy this and just keep a 1/4" round-over bit in it and toss it in my always have bag, and maybe toss in a flush trim and small solid carbide up-cut bit.
After seeing you do those 1/4"(?) grooves it really put how powerful My Makita router is into perspective. I've got a video of it doing a 3/4"w1/2"d cross grain on some Ambrosia Maple in a single pass and it really wasn't struggling. Not knocking the Bosch in any way, as they are two completely different form factors. The design of this is obviously for edge work and the offset handle design and the shaft being in the latter 3rd of the base is really a nice bit of thoughtful engineering.
And hard to tell for sure from the video, but it looked like the grain was pushed out and up by that knot in relation to the cutter, and even with a sharp bit and a higher RPM it still likely would have resulted in tear out. Only way I've found to reliably avoid that successfully is to inspect all of the edges, mark or take note of all the spots that have a questionable grain direction and cut them first going clockwise. Takes lot more time to do this, but if you have a board that absolutely cannot have a chewed up edge it' is what it is.
Excellent points. Yeah, after using it for that 1/4" groove, it really solidified that Bosch designed this to be targeted at edge profiling and trimming, which it's amazing at. That also explains why there's no LED or edge guide attachment spots, since it's meant to be used with a bearing bit which doesn't need either of those.
The grain around that knot was a big contributing factor for the tearout as you mentioned. Good tip on climb cutting those areas!
Great review, thanks. Definitely grabbing one of these.
how are you liking it?
Great review and video thanks for posting 👍
I've looked at this tool on several occasions. I already have a couple of items on the 12v platform, and ten years on they still perform well. I own the Ryobi cordless router. It is the first version, and frankly terrible to use. But, back then it was the only kid on the block.
The bosch is not an expensive router, but the lack of versatility, and dust extraction would be a deal breaker for me.
It would be ideally suited to edge trimming and, with the appropriate cutter, hinge
pockets. Oh, if you are planning on swinging a lot of doors, I'd invest in a few more batteries.
In the end I opted for the cordless Makita. Variable speed, plenty of accessories, including a plunge base, and a pleasure to use.
Thanks for sharing.
Nice Review! :)
Slick can't wait to buy me one in America
I agree w/ your assessment. I have this little guy and it is a joy to use. Its best function is trim routing. It is easy to hold and to guide along the work piece. For bigger work. I use a more powerful router.
Good Job!
Great review dude
Review the bosch 12v planner...
To be frank I observed n noticed Bosch tools are getting better n user friendly with nice design too.
Have you ever seen a lipping planer? I think this with a custom base would do the same thing and be stable since the collet isn't centered.
I got this for doing hinges/locks 3mm depth with a jig am very happy with it
That's about half the depth I had mine set to for the groove in the video, so I can see it doing a lot better for that application. Are you using a 1/4" straight bit?
Doresoom Reviews i use it with a flush bearing router bit
I'm looking at it for the same reason, really want the dewalt one but it's not due for at least a month. How many hinges are you getting per battery?
what brand of jig?
@@hubzo1 make em myself
Hi, could you tell me the measurement from center bit to the shortest edge?
Great quality tutorial, thank you. I did keep a doubt I'm not sure you clarified: In which direction are you passing the router? I understand you should go against the rotation and it seem in the video that the router was going in the direction of the cut, as if almost escaping from your hands. Thanks again!
Glad it was helpful! I was cutting the correct direction in the video, with the bit rotating against the direction of travel. Here's a diagram that can be useful for remembering: blog.acmetools.com/best-route-beautiful-edges/
@@DoresoomReviews Thanks for the clarification!
Is that a Ryobi rivet gun I see on the work bench? If so when do we get a video?
Are you talking about the high volume inflator I reviewed a while back? It's become my go-to bench brush, I use it all the time now. I guess it kinda does look like a rivet gun! ua-cam.com/video/sKhvssNbhTc/v-deo.html
It's Perfect for veneer trimmer. I've used other compact routers but they were little tipsy...
Yeah, the base and center of gravity on this one really sets it apart.
Exactly what I was looking at them for. Thanks for the recomendation.
I am right handed but would prefer to hold the router in the left hand so,as to NOT block view of the bit.I also would prefer to have the bit position under the end of my hand rather than the butt.For me, the design is ass backwards but I should mention that I have not used this router yet. Can anyone tell me why they sell these tools bare(without battery). I prefer to have two batteries and a case with it. I have their corded trim 1 hp and find it excellent for that purpose. Colluded always use another remoter!
Most tool manufacturers generally sell tools other than drills/drivers as bare tools so you're not forced to buy more batteries you don't need. It's a way to expand on what you already have of a battery system. Their basic drill/driver kit is pretty economical, and may be cheaper than buying individual batteries if you're in the market for a driver and impact: amzn.to/2KCCcR3
What size bit will this take ... 1/2 or 1/4?
1/4" shank bits
Door hinge recess in a frame??
Yeah, it can handle that.
Can this be used as plunged cutting?
Yes, but it's not very good at it. You have to tilt the fixed base into the work for a plunge cut, since there isn't a plunge cut base available for this router.
If you plan on using this router for regular plunge cuts, I'd look at something else instead.
Another reviewer said 6A battery made a big difference.
That makes sense, most of the M12 tools I have work the same way with larger batteries - I just didn't have a 4Ah or 6Ah 12V Bosch battery.
Can you use the with a guide so it van be used with a hinge jig etc?
It can be used with a top bearing pattern bit, but I'm not aware of any compatible guide bushings.
Bosch...👍👍👍👍👍👍
very good review... but when is the U.S going to get with the times and join the rest of the world on the metric system..
Thanks! I hear you, I love using metric for engineering problems. (seriously, who came up with slugs as a unit of mass!?) But I still think in imperial when it comes to everyday life. Getting the entire country to switch would take generations I think. Might never happen!
Doresoom Tool Reviews ha ha the rest of the world used imperial too once. Then we changed it, and everyone Just managed.. just need to take take the plunge and commit..
@@DoresoomReviews took a whole week to change over here in Ireland, road signs everything, the size of a small state in America
A word from the wise on cordless tools...
Their speed is meant to be maintained. That's where the saying, "Let the tool do the work." comes from. As soon as you bog them down by pushing too hard, you're creating more battery heat discharge than cut. Speed through material is dictated purely by tone.
Slow her down and make her sing, even with 18 Volt architecture. Otherwise, it's cheaper in the long run to grab an extension cord if you have a tendency to "power assist" your cuts.
you would think Milwaukee had released one by now. I don't get why Milwaukee is so scared of releasing wood working tools for M12.
I hear you, wish they would as well. Add an M12 FUEL jigsaw to that list too!
try with the 6.0 ah it's way better
We need a milwaukee cordless router
What is the maximum depth of router, more than one inch?
When the router is in it's lowest position, the collet nut is about 3/16" above the bottom of the baseplate. From that, max depth will vary with different bits.
I love the tool but battery dead after 2 or 3 passes is not fun. Good for small jobs for sure. For a battery so small it delivers good work however
What type of material and bit profile are you using? I get way more work per charge than that while edge profiling. I can see dadoes sucking the battery empty pretty fast though.
Are you trimming granite?
They make a 4 Amp battery for 12 Volt tools. It has a bulky box of batteries sitting on top of the post, but they rock for a while. The bulk won't matter on a one-handed tool.
Is this model made in Germany or China???
I used it just a few times for MDF trimming then just stuck Tx Bosch Also does not have a 110v charger in the UK so only for DIY use Not good for hinges literally you are not able to see what actually does My view is good for DIY home use but not for professional
If you're looking for a general purpose trim router, this one probably isn't ideal due to the limited sight line you mention. But for round overs and flush cutting, this is definitely a professional level tool, specialized for those purposes.
@@DoresoomReviews LOOKS TO ME YOU ONLY WORK ON GF LEVEL WITH 240 SORRY I MISS UNDERSTAND YOU I WORK OND THE 6TH FLOOR AND ONLY POWER SOURCE I HAVE GRATE 110V BUT BOSCH DO NOT MAKE 119V FOR UK SO I HAVE TO WALK DOWN EVERY TIME TO THE CANTEEN
What are the pucks holding the wood? All I can see is *ch Dog tools. Please let me know.
They're Bench Dog Bench Cookies: amzn.to/2uwriU1
Rockler makes some identical blue ones too. I've got a set of both - whichever one happens to be cheaper at the time I needed more!
Awesome....Thank you! Great review.
low rpm=rougher cut
Nice review as always....but kinda pricey..
I wanted to buy one of these routers but Bosch does not sell this tool as a complete tool which is the tool, battery and charger, you can
Only buy the tool and they force you to buy the battery and charger separately which is ridiculous so I bought a different router from one of there competitor.
Too bad, Lowes actually has this (and most other Bosch 12V tools) bare tool with a free charger and 2Ah battery right now: www.lowes.com/pd/Bosch-1-4-in-Brushless-Fixed-Cordless-Router-Bare-Tool/1000768166
I'd love to get one but I just can't justify spending $150 on a cordless tool that DOESN'T EVEN COME WITH A BATTERY not to mention a charger. Bosch done gone and bumped their damn head.
well quality has its price, no shame settleing for mediocre
You think that's a lot, try buying a track saw tool only. 150 isn't bad at all. I just paid 120 + tax for an orbital sander and 160 for my drill.
Ill stick to my ridgid corded.....lol
Your going the wrong way with the first route. If u started from the other side u wouldn’t get that chew out
It would also be climb cutting - moving with the direction of bit rotation instead of against it. Much easier to lose control that way, and therefore should be done sparingly. Like near corners and around obvious grain features that are more likely to tear out. Unfortunately the grain on that entire length was prone to it, but I didn't want to make a climb cut that long. Plus the UA-cam safety police would have an aneurysm if I had done so. 😂
$250 bare tool... The larger 18V is $170 bare tool. It would be nice to have a small trim router like this but I've watched many reviews, it just sounds too crunchy; maybe it's cheap gears inside!
I haven't seen it listed for more than $150 bare tool anywhere, at least in the US. Amazon has it for $20 off right now too: amzn.to/2HWmdOM
Bosch doesn't have an 18V cordless router yet, unless you've seen a press release for one very recently. And this router feels plenty sturdy, not cheap at all. I believe it's direct drive, so no gears.
Bought the Jig saw tried it on various lite projects , it failed , vibration ,ease of controls , total performance FAIL
I'm a master Commercial Carpenter , 35 years experience , the jig saw failed on every project , it now sits on a shelf as a reminder
Never buy a poor designed product again , stay away from these low voltage tools
I haven't used the jigsaw myself, but I'd be hesitant to write off an entire tool platform based on my experience with one tool. Every company has dud products once in a while.
I bought the jigsaw and was slightly disappointed too but the 12v combi drill, 85mm circular saw and impact driver are excellent for their intended purpose.
Ergonomically its a joke. Very badly designed
I disagree, but ergonomics is generally personal preference. Hope you find something that works for you.