Taking Down Statues Isn’t Erasing History, and I’ll Tell You Why.
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- Опубліковано 10 жов 2024
- 'Statues aren’t history. They are a memorialisation. They are acts of political symbolism meant to shore up a narrative about what this country is.’
Writer and broadcaster Afua Hirsch speaks on the role that statues play in the telling of our collective history, in response to the toppling of the statue of slave owner Edward Colston in Bristol by Black Lives Matter protesters on Sunday 7 June 2020. The removal of statues is a topic Hirsch is well known for addressing, having tackled it back in 2017 in a widely read article for the Guardian.
Hirsch rebuts the idea that toppling statues serves to erase history, and explains the fragility of a nation who cannot engage fully with their own past. Not only is her work in resurfacing the parts of colonial history that have been excluded from popular narrative, but as she explains, statues are not ‘history’ but memorialisations that are politically expedient, which warrant review.
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Those who forget history are doomed to repeat it...
Damon Garfield well said because that is happening now
Amen.
@@princezuko9204 That's insane I tell you! Pure f****** insanity!
Removing our history is removing the reason to make our future better.
And once the statues are all torn down you'll move on to banning books you find distatefull....
You are mistaken.
@@RebeccaLynnMusic care to elaborate?
Replace the word Slave, it hurts and demoralises the Slavic peoples, it's a political symbol used to oppress them as they feel oppressed.
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Especially when all the people passing by those statutes every day who live in those cities didn’t even know who they were and didn’t even care until some some went on the news.......
The old Roman Empire used to execute Christians in the Colosseum, so being a Christian should give me the right to tear down the Colosseum?
QUEEN!! QUEEN! QUEEN! QUEEN! FACTS!!! FACTS!! FACTS!! FACTS!!
Liar liar, pants on fire! SJW narratives regurgitated for social points.
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@@pyrexldn1348 ??? Me???
Dont take down statues they are monuments of history people must never forget the history that has happend in this country if we forget our history we are doomed to repeat it again!
6:05 I'm sorry, but that is an idiotic statement. Statues ARE history. Because history is not only told through text or word of mouth - it is also told through objects. Archeology exists for a reason, you know. All people eventually die and not all of them write memoirs or history books, but their legacy and life can be analyzed through the objects that they leave behind: books, scrolls, paintings, buildings, clothing, armor, household items, cutlery or lack thereof, tools...all of these things can tell a story, which helps us understand our past. Statues included.
Afua talk about 21st century Islam and slavery
The doctrine is simply this: That the Union soldiers who died at Gettysburg sacrificed their lives to the cause of self determination, that the government of the people, by the people, for the people, should not perish from the earth.
IT IS DIFFICULT TO IMAGINE ANYTHING MORE UNTRUE.
The Union soldiers in the battle actually fought against self-determination; it was the Confederates who fought for the right of their people to govern themselves.
I've noticed that when statues fall (for whatever reason) violent and bloody revolution often follows. That's my concern. And we are certainly seeing something taking place as statues get torn down l don't see much understanding going on or rebuilding of something positive in place
Very eloquently put but what do you actually want? What’s the outcome that you would think “Yes, job done!”?
I wonder if these statues should be torn down what statues you believe should be erected, if any. If you get a chance I think you might be interested in googling the names Anthony Johnson connected to John Casor. If you do I would really like to see a video from you breaking down this concept. I think it would actually put you on even more of a cutting edge movement than this tearing down of monuments which has almost run its course. I think that this younger generation is too close to this situation to realize that all of this social upheaval is being pushed by powerful people anxious to make an entire world of slaves for eternity.
Ps..Sorry to let you know but you cant change history
Eloquently put. These statues belong in museums where they can really educate people, not in the streets where most just walk past and are unaware of what they stand for.
Just a few months ago the Chinese were booting out the African people over covid a word about that 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Afua Hirsch utterly twisting and exaggerating history, beyond all recognition, to suit her thesis. The entirety of her evidence for Nelson "lobbying" parliament to thwart the Act of Abolition, is one letter, never sent, found after his death by anti-abolitionists (suspicious in itself to any historian worth a jot), in which he says in one sentence that he is of the old school on this question. And this becomes "lobbying" to Afua! He spoke in parliament seven times and not once did he mention the slave trade. Hardly evidence. But to Afua and others who totally misunderstand the issues, does this matter? We do want to see these people as they were, not with falsified or exaggerated evidence.
But blacks can worship the falsified records of their own heroes. Live and let live.
How does she look so good?
When we defeat our enemies it’s wise to show some mercy isn’t it. In a punch up we should always help the other guy up and back to his feet after we have knocked him down, shouldn’t we. That brings peace, doesn’t it by helping him to save face. It’s says yes we fought you but we don’t hate you. And we shake hands don’t we. It gives him a chance to regain his confidence. After a victorious battle although we are in a position to kill everyone nevertheless we show mercy don’t we and have prisoners of war. That brings peace. We can’t be too hard. The South got decimated. Lost a lot. Loss of life. Loss of prosperity. For many it was the loss of everything. Germany got decimated in the 2nd world war. Bombed to bits. Did we leave them in that state? No we helped out. Did we tear down the statues of Rommel. No we honour that man and others like him. We did the same with Japan. We don’t crush people. That’s why America is great because she has mercy. It’s true Christianity. The yanks lost. They lost 360,222 Yankees who died in the Civil War. They paid in blood. They lost their lives. Let that be sufficient that 360,222 men from the North laid down their lives for the slaves. They don’t need to tear down statues. Put them back up please and show a little mercy. Stonewall Jackson said it’s our duty to pray. He was defending his homeland. Do not tear down Robert E. Lee. Show some mercy. Let the South have some honour. Otherwise you are just uncivilised wretches who do not deserve to be Americans that are seeming like just a bunch of mad squabblers.
Thank you, we all need you 🙏🏽 we are opening to the truth it's painful but must do it. Let's learn from the Germans:).
Two weeks in and no response from the poster. I humbly as you to look into my original reply and let me know what you think. Is the world what the media tells us it is or is it something deeper yet more obvious? I am open to honest dialogue. This post could honestly get the largest number of relies if you would show the slightest amount of courage to respond to me.
thats why Mao thought too
I'll be quick and very frank. Should we judge people hundreds if not thousands of years ago on our morals of today. Roman's had gladiatorial fights and shared the same toilet and stick to wipe there own asses with. But we know better to not judge for that's all they had and knew and same applies to all centuries of human history. The Romans even had slaves from ALL peoples and the Chinese used slaves to build the great wall of China but we aren't tearing down the wall of China. Julius caesar even committed genocide. Morals change over time. You could recognize what they did and still respect them. I respect erwin rommel,julius caesar and george Washington because I recognize there morals we drastically different then ours of today. These statues remind us of what happened and you must know that it did and seeing it daily out in public when you pass work has us be motivated to make sure something like that will never happen again. The civil war was a tragedy it split families and brother's fought brother's. Taking down these statues away from the public eyes and putting them in a dusty old museum where people find to be boring isn't the way to do it. This is all conjecture and just my humble opinion
Thank you soo much for making a difference and teaching us valuable stories ,I love you ❤️🙏🏾
Well Done!
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Silent
Nelson never vociferously argued in favour of slavery. He spoke 6-7 times in parliament, not once about slavery. This is just not true. The 'evidence' is one clause in a sentence in a letter he never sent, in which he said that on this topic (Jamaican plantations) he is "of the old school". That is your evidence for his 'vociferous anti-abolitionism'..If he felt strongly about slavery, why didn't he use his influence to prolong it? He didn't even send the letter (to a plantation owning chum in Jamaica). I could continue but can't be bothered. You do to and with the historical record precisely what you claim white Britain has been doing for generations. I'm fine with ideas, but use the facts as they are, not as you'd have it.
Dios solo no puede hacer nada que vaya encontra de su propia naturaleza.... Que es perfecta en su racionalidad filosofica.
Thank you.
Thanks for this. I admire you so much.
Very narrow perspective.
Brad Bart
Narrow is putting it politely, it’s outright bigoted.
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It's the opposite of a narrow perspective, what are you talking about
Not narrow at all , y’all don’t understand 🤦🏾♂️
Afua...aren't you white as well and if so ,why do you deny your white blood and heritage ?
I could not have expressed this topic any better myself. The reason why most people in the UK are misinformed about the figures they revere as national heroes is because our education system either glosses over or expunges their role in the massacre and enslavement of millions of people. In Britain figures like Churchill and Nelson are considered symbols of Englishness and anything that detracts from the romanticised abstraction of these figures is seen as unpatriotic and treated as a personal affront. Cherry picking aspects of our history that appeals to our patriotic fervour is fallacious. We need to have an open and honest discussion about the British Empire and the damage and harm it has caused to whole nations of people. We must acknowledge the racialist ethos of the British empire and that to this day there is an iteration of this kind of racialism today.
@madcheeseknight At no point in my comment did I mention the matter of statues. The thrust of my comment is that the discussion around our history should be an honest one that does not redact the ugly truths just because it besmirches the idealised image we have of our national heroes.
madcheeseknight However, the parts of Nelson and Churchill that are not so shiny is swept under the carpet when in fact they may arguably have had equal but negative impact on their victims. If these omissions were properly discussed and included in school curriculums perhaps adult British would not be so brittle and not be so blindsided that they create such things as the Windrush scandal. And it isn't about hating Black peoples. Or Indians etc It's about making our countries inhabitable through rape and pillage that we still suffer the effects today
Talk about Libya slave trade yea selling African people
5 minutes of you is enough .Britain is not interested in your identity politics . Is there nothing else you can talk about ???? your like a scratched record statues and identity is there nothing else that goes on in your life.
Anyone in 2020 who is upset or offended by a statue is really losing the plot and needs to go and have some therapy.
All those statues represent influential people of their time they did good things in their time and also wrong things its how differently people saw the world and were educated back then.
they hate to see a powerful black girl with a message
woman
nicomanc if you listened to what she was saying you would realise that you are one of the people she is trying to appeal to. White ignorance is a tough nut to crack
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nicomanc probably best you won't be missed
Afua talk about Libya slave trade yea selling African people
Yes but not on commercial bases like the west even many cooperation which were build from the profit of slaves and and still making billions of pounds till this day
@@ibrahim7sinare606 akhi Islam slave trade exists to this day
Ur wrong
Afua you just don't like the fact that Britain has power haha
She should be made Dame for efforts towards equality! She'a a star!
you won't tell me anything.
Boo
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Interesting perspective. ❤️
Another great video!!
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